DOJ Corruption – The Fork in The Road Few Noticed – What Bill Barr Needs to Explain to Everyone…

Foolishness and betrayal of our country have served to reveal dangers within our present condition. Misplaced corrective action, regardless of intent, is neither safe nor wise. The intelligence apparatus was weaponized against our candidate by those who controlled the levers of government. This is what AG Bill Barr needs to explain to the nation.

The position of Bill Barr today is a direct result of decisions made by the DOJ in the Fall of 2017 & Summer of 2018. The events surrounding the leaking of the FISA warrant used against U.S. person Carter Page, and the 2018 DOJ decision not to prosecute SSCI Security Director James Wolfe for those leaks, was the fork in the road moment for the DOJ.

Attorney General Jeff Session was recused, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein was in charge and the Mueller investigation was ongoing. That was when the DOJ made a decision not to prosecute Wolfe for leaking classified information. DC U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu signed-off on a plea deal where Wolfe plead guilty to only a single count of lying to the FBI.

If the DOJ had pursued the case against Wolfe for leaking the FISA application, everything would have been different.  The American electorate would have seen evidence of what was taking place in the background effort to remove President Trump. We would be in an entirely different place today if that prosecution or trial had taken place.

Three 2018 events revealed the Wolfe issue:

EVENT ONE – On February 9th, 2018, the media reported on text messages from 2017 between Senate Intelligence Committee Vice-Chairman Mark Warner and Chris Steele’s lawyer, a lobbyist named Adam Waldman.

EVENT TWO – Four months after the Mark Warner texts were made public, on June 8th, 2018, another headline story surfaced.  An indictment for Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Security Director James Wolfe was unsealed on June 7th, 2018.

EVENT THREE – Slightly less than two months after release of the Wolfe indictment, another headline story.  On July 21st, 2018, the DOJ/FBI declassified and publicly released the FISA application(s) used against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.

♦ Later on December 14th 2018 a fourth albeit buried public release confirmed everything.  The FBI filed a sentencing recommendation proving it was the Carter Page FISA that was leaked by Wolfe:

HINDSIGHT – What we didn’t know at the time, simultaneous to the decision-making regarding Wolfe, was another (a second) DOJ cover-up effort was taking place surrounding the origin of the Russia-collusion fraud.

To further understand the decision-making of Rosenstein/Liu, as to why they hid the James Wolfe leak it is important to note the DOJ in the Eastern District of Virginia was creating the cover-story to block sunlight on the origin of how Wikileaks gained the leaked DNC emails.

On April 11th, 2019, the Julian Assange indictment  was unsealed in the EDVA.  From the indictment we discover it was under seal since March 6th, 2018:

(Link to pdf)

On Tuesday April 15th 2019 more investigative material was released. Again, note the dates: Grand Jury, *December of 2017* This means FBI investigation prior to….

The FBI investigation took place prior to December 2017, it was coordinated through the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) where Dana Boente was U.S. Attorney at the time.  The grand jury indictment was sealed from March of 2018 until after Mueller completed his investigation, April 2019.

How does this all connect?

What does it mean?

James Wolfe was confronted about his leaking by the FBI in December of 2017.  At the same time the FBI were investigating Wolfe and the SSCI, the FBI was also investigating Wikileaks and Julian Assange.   This matters because it shows what the mindset was within the DOJ in late 2017 and early 2018.

In both examples, Wolfe and Assange, the actions by the DOJ reflect a predisposition to hide the much larger background story:

• A prosecution of Wolfe would have exposed a complicit conspiracy between corrupt U.S. intelligence actors and the United States senate. Two branches of government essentially working on one objective; the removal of a sitting president.  The DOJ decision protected multiple U.S. agencies and congress.

• A non-prosecution of Assange would have exposed a complicit conspiracy between corrupt U.S. intelligence actors and a host of political interests who created a fraudulent Russia-collusion conspiracy with the central component of Russia “hacking” the DNC.  If Assange were allowed to show he received the DNC emails from a leaker, and not from a hack, the central component of the Russia interference narrative would collapse.  The DOJ decision protected multiple U.S. agencies and Robert Mueller.

As soon as Robert Mueller was going to release his Russia report, the EDVA shut down Assange with the DOJ indictment; in a similar way the DOJ shut down Wolfe with a weak plea agreement.

Again, the key takeaway here is the timing.  Both DOJ operations were taking place at the same time (Fall 2017 through spring/summer 2018).  Both hold a similar purpose.

What we can see from both DOJ operations is an intentional effort by Main Justice not to expose the epicenter of a multi-branch effort against the White House.

Some people within the FBI were obviously participating along with people within the DOJ.  However, not all Washington DC FBI agents/officials were involved.  We know there were genuine investigators, at least in the Wolfe case, because their investigative evidence shows Wolfe was leaking classified information.  If they did not present the investigative evidence that proves Wolfe leaked, quite simply we wouldn’t have it to show you.

Unfortunately, in hindsight we can see something internally within the DOJ happened because the FBI evidence against Wolfe was buried. Some high-level group inside the DOJ in Washington DC, in the Summer of 2018, was making decisions on what NOT to do.

These two events highlight corruption within the DOJ that existed despite the presence of AG Jeff Sessions, and apparently with the participation of DAG Rod Rosenstein.

The decisions in the Wolfe case are critical.  That’s the fork in the road.  If the Wolfe prosecution had continued it would have undoubtedly surfaced that key government officials and politicians were working together (executive and legislative).

The ramifications of the Wolfe case are stunning.  Had the prosecution continued it’s very likely a seditious conspiracy would have surfaced.

♦ I often field a question:  If you know this; if all of this information is in the public sphere; then why didn’t any member of the media cover it?

Here’s the answer: They couldn’t…. At least they couldn’t cover it and still retain all of the claims they had been making since March 2017 when journalist Ali Watkins gained a fully non-redacted copy of the Carter Page FISA application and first renewal.

Politico, The New York Times, CNN, MSNBC and The Washington Post are all implicated in the James Wolfe leak to Ali Watkins.  They had the FISA information since March 2017, yet those media outlets were disingenuously falsifying their reporting on the actual content of the FISA application despite their actual knowledge.

Remember all of the media denials about what Devin Nunes wrote in the “Nunes memo”?  Remember the media proclaiming the Steele Dossier was not part of the FISA application?

How was the media fifteen months later (July 2018) going to report on the Wolfe leak to Watkins without admitting they had been manufacturing stories about its content for the past year-and-a-half?

It was in the media’s interest NOT to cover, or dig into, the Wolfe story.

Additionally, from both the DOJ and Media perspective, coverage of the Wolfe leak would prove the senate intel committee (SSCI) was, at a minimum, a participating entity in the coup effort.  That same SSCI is responsible for oversight over the CIA, FBI, DOJ-NSD, ODNI, DNI, and all intelligence agencies.

Worse yet, all officers within those agencies require confirmation from the SSCI (including Chair and Vice-Chair); and any discussion of the Wolfe leak would highlight the motive for ongoing corruption within the SSCI in blocking those nominations (see John Ratcliffe).

Stunning ramifications.

There was a clear fork in the road and the DOJ took the path toward a cover-up; which, considering what the DOJ was simultaneously doing with Mueller and the EDVA regarding Assange, is not entirely surprising.

Was that decision wrong?  Oh hell yes, it was corrupt as heck. .

Were the decisions done with forethought to coverup gross abuses of government? Yes.

Where the DOJ is today is directly connected to the decisions the DOJ made in 2017 and 2018 to protect themselves and internally corrupt actors from discovery.

It is often said: “the coverup is always worse than the crime.”  This is never more true than with these examples, because where we are today… now miles down the path of consequence from those corrupt decisions… is seemingly disconnected from the ability of any institutional recovery.  That’s now the issue for Bill Barr.

If Bill Barr wanted to deal with the issue he would not be telling President Trump to stop talking about the corruption; instead he would be holding a large press conference to explain to the American people about that fork in the road.

That type of honest sunlight delivery means taking people back into the background of the larger story and explaining what decisions were made; with brutal honesty and without trepidation for the consequences, regardless of their severity and regardless of the friends of Bill Barr compromised by the truth.

Here’s a big reason why Bill Barr should take that approach: We Know.

We know; the DOJ trying to hide it doesn’t change our level of information.

Regardless of whether Bill Barr actually admits what surrounds him, there are people who know… We know…. You know…. AG Bill Barr shouting ‘don’t tweet‘ into the microphone like the Wizard of Oz doesn’t change the fact the curtain has been removed.

Turn around Bill, it’s time to come clean.


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894 Responses to DOJ Corruption – The Fork in The Road Few Noticed – What Bill Barr Needs to Explain to Everyone…

  1. Sidehill Dodger says:

    There are two aspects I don’t understand about this essay.

    1: WOLFE:
    What was Wolfe’s intent when he leaked the FISA application? What were the actual results of the leak? Wolfe was in his position for 30 years, why would such a senior functionary compromise his career like this? Was he against the “coup”? I note he was sentenced to 2 months in prison for lying to the FBI. It appears that he had an extramarital relationship with a reporter, so that’s probably the emotional ground behind his lying. It might also explain the leak itself; it’s amazing how leaks happen in bed.

    How do you know what revelations would have resulted from a trial of Wolfe, over and above the FISA application itself? If Wolfe came into possession of this document through normal channels from the FBI, how would this have looked bad for the “coup”?

    2: ASSANGE:

    I understand why the deep state would want to insist that Assange hacked into government computer networks to get his information. After all, the leaker might have friends in the deep state. But how do you explain Assange’s utterly extreme reluctance to go to the US for a trial? He could exonerate himself by naming the source. Maybe that’s a violation of Assange’s journalistic ethics, but at least the prosecution would have the burden of proof to show that Assange got the info by hacking, rather than from an informant. OK, I have no idea what the gender-fluid Manning will testify. But it would be subject to cross-examination. In any case, proving Assange hacked would be very difficult.

    Assange has essentially imprisoned HIMSELF for all these years. It doesn’t make sense. How would he be worse off in a US prison, even if he was convicted?

    I do not see the sinister significance of the decision to prosecute Assange if he did (apparently) publish classified information. It seems to me that the deep state conspirators would have a lot to lose in a public trial of Assange. There would be the discovery process, testimony, cross-examination, etc. Indeed, I think Assange would do us all a favor if he made a court appearance.

    Does it usually take this long to extradite someone from Britain?

    I freely admit there’s a lot here I don’t understand, and that the author’s knowledge is far deeper than mine. I welcome correction and clarification.

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    • Deb says:

      My limited understanding, and I’m probably wrong, was the Wolfe leak was a sort of damage control and an attempt to bait PDJT to react in a way that could be spun as obstruction of justice.

      Leaks are often done to try to inoculate that public against scandals that can’t be stopped from breaking.

      As for Assange, he assumes he’ll be killed in prison. The embassy was almost a living hell, but he was alive. He could try to continue his work. He believes if he is sent to a US prison he will end up like Epstein. Can you blame him?


    • Les D says:

      On Assange, my guess he’s trying to run out the clock until the US gets out from under the spell of the hoax of the PT/Russia findings that Assange got the emails from a Russian hack. A hack is provably impossible as digital forensics would show, had to have been copied to a flash drive(s) by an insider at DNC and given to Wiki. But DNC would only allow their puppet Crowd Strike examine the hard drive. Comey testified he found that sufficient. Puke yet?

      I’d guess another reason he’d rather wait in England rather then come to the US and go back into solitary for a few years, tried before a pro DOJ-Judge by crooked DOJ prosecutors and sentenced to a hundred years in solitary at a Supermax prison, praying against hope that the S Ct reverses it in 4 years. I’d further guess DOJ similarly is in no hurry to start that possibly embarrassing process and get him here, they got him locked up and fairly incommunicado to the press with no internet.

      But to answer your last q about how long does it take to extradite, it depends on if Assange is contesting it. He is. so he gets a full Due Process procedure there with discovery and a trial to see if he qualifies pursuant to our two country’s treaty. A rough length of time? I’d refer to the Huwaii heir/daughter Canada arrested on our Interpol warrant. She’s fightin our extradition so similarly she is going to get a full blown due process trial in Canada before they decide if she’s eligible. I’ve read prolly a 2 year process. But at least she’s 90% free, lives in her $$$$ home in Vancouver, can come and go in CA, but with an ankle bracelet.


    • philip l horner says:

      How would Assange be worse off in a US prison?

      Have you heard about what happened to Whitey Bulgar’s tongue?

      Or a fella named Epstein?

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    • luke says:

      I’ll be brief, I kind of assumed this whole fiasco was doomed for some time. I never wanted people on our side to lose faith in the MAGA agenda. This is one big giant cluster**** conundrum catch 22. I assume most of you believe the DNC was not hacked by Russia. I believe Bill Binney’s analysis so neither do I. That leaves open the theory that the WikiLeaks files were uploaded to a hard drive. Well enough said….you know what would happen if that knowledge became mainstream?

      I leave you two quotes….
      —“You want the truth, you can’t handle the truth”

      —“Only the small secrets need to be protected, the large ones are concealed by public incredulity “

      WIN 2020 !!!!!


    • PMadison says:

      I don’t think Assange’s indictment has anything to do with hacking. He was indicted for supposedly encouraging Chelsea Manning way back in 2010. The interesting question is why they only decided that’s what Assange had done after Seth Rich died in 2016 … er, I mean after Assange “was handed the DNC emails by Putin” in 2016.


    • Beau Geste says:

      Epstein and Whitey Bulger suddenly died in US prisons…
      NYT v. Sullivan, the Ellsberg Pentagon Papers case, is an impossible legal goal for the corrupt DOJ to overcome to persecute Assange. Assange is not keeping himself in jail.

      But the Supreme Court is expensive and takes too long for a jailed individual. The US DOJ is threatening expensive persecution and likely conviction by a dumb jury to do him in.


  2. Streak 264 says:

    This situation should be handed off to the military.
    DOJ/FIB have no business investigating themselves.

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    • ThriveOn35K says:

      Is that the same military that sent Lt Col Vindman to the war college? No thank you. They have been infected with 8 years of Obama’s infestation of our institutions.

      The investigation should be distributed throughout the country to districts that are unrelated to Washington DC. Those districts are not as favored and therefore less corrupted.

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    • JohnCasper says:

      The military high command is too dirty.

      Liked by 1 person

    • rororojo says:

      Except that the military is corrupt too. Hussein made sure of it before he left.

      Liked by 1 person

    • zekness says:

      Nope…military courts are for military personnel only…and for terrorists. (tribunals)

      I think there is a clear case to argue that congress needs to revisit the independent counsel doctrine for this precise situation…investigations of the DOJ cannot reasonably be made by a DOJ AG who assigned and Oversights a special counsel…big conflict, as we are watching this play out right now.

      but then we also have a likely corrupt congress with members who would be making the independent counsel and guiding it who are implicated as least indirectly with the russia is coming and trump coup. so we are back at square one.

      this is why in another thread, I highlighted this reality:

      we are looking at the wrong people to fix this problem

      the solution exists where the constitution directly says this can be solved.


      how to achieve it?

      yes, it means literally by force AS required.


      • Streak 264 says:

        But a coup is against the US which makes it an act of war, doesn’t it? It also involves other countries as well. The fact that other countries are involved also seems to be an act of war.


  3. bigd57 says:

    If nothing else is done, the classified documents need to be unredacted and released. Who will do it and when? Originally I thought this would start happening before the election. I do not believe it anymore, and I believe the idea is to wait out the presumably 8 years of the Trump administration, if they can get away with it.

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    • inspectorudy says:

      Why do you think Lindsey Graham was put in charge of the Senate Intelligence committee? McConnell wanted to stop ANY and ALL threats to his gang in the Senate R/D. He knows that Graham will be all hat and no cattle. We have seen him perform before. Wolfe was the scab on the festering sore in the SSIC and if he had been indicted on a more serious charge, several senators and many in the DoJ/FBI elite would have been pulled into the maelstrom. The swamp is much worse than feared. Barr hasn’t a chance because most of the players in ALL federal agencies are part of the deep state or at least sympathize with it.

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      • RJ says:

        Yep, as Barr sucks on his bagpipes knowing his country club pals are dirty there’s ole Senate Leader Mitch keeping his cards closer to his chest, so close he has bruises. Hillary is laughing her head off in amazement, while Obama plans a spring shindig at his new residence in Martha’s Vineyard.telling Valerie no one can ever get close to them on any of this stuff.

        Meanwhile civilians are sitting in their living rooms watching these shows knowing something is not right in America. Everyone is waiting for someone to yell fire in the movie theater hoping the exit doors are bolted shut.

        Barr’s face tells us all we need to know. He is going to be smoked out with Trump fanning the flames one way or the other. Lindsey is not going to have many more rounds of golf with the President. Wray is working on his resume while the broad at the CIA is adding more insulation to her attic and increasing her life insurance.

        Over at the NRA they are thinking of erecting more practice ranges throughout the country. Code Pink is planning on joining PETA so all the girls can free the nipples they so desperately seek to show the men (and other gals).

        Candidate Pete is only interested in kissing his husband on the Capital steps or the White House, while Warren is conferring with Kevin Costner for a small very secluded ranch somewhere in South Dakota. Bloomberg is just placing more bets on both sides of the game knowing he is really all about making money, nothing more. Bernie wants more college students to come to his rallies bare chested for obvious reasons. Brennan is seeking a plastic surgeon who can give him a smile as Clapper just wants to stay in bed.

        Meanwhile, Rudy and The Donald have enacted a game plan with Admiral Rogers ready to sail into the truths (with facts) he knows all about.

        July 4th might have more fireworks than America has seen in many many years!


      • YeahYouRight says:

        Lindsey chairs Judiciary, not Intelligence.


    • Les D says:

      As to the DOJ/FBI investigation Barr is doing, PT gave Barr the sole authority to declassify. So never. Until PT retracts that, or Barr is retired.


    • Rhoda R says:

      Won’t the Statute of Limitations have run out by then on most of the coup/cover-up efforts?


  4. 335blues says:

    Explain to me how Barr has been any better
    than Jeff Sessions was?
    Pretending the coup attempt did to happen,
    and leaving the seditious traitors in place
    is not only asking them to try it again,
    Why not try it in 2020 in President Trump’s 2nd term?
    Why the hell not? Their next plan will have fewer errors.
    If Barr and those whose responsibility it is to protect the Republic
    from such an attack are too afraid to do anything about it,
    Inaction will sentence America to overthrow
    because eventually they will succeed.

    Liked by 11 people

    • 335blues says:

      By the way, the automatic grammar correction sucks.

      Liked by 1 person

    • albertus magnus says:

      AG Sessions was truly a MAGA hero for decades…but was totally ineffectual as AG.

      Bill Barr was and is GOP establishment.

      Neither one has what is needed to drain the swamp.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Randolph Scott says:

        Chuck Norris for AG. US Marines for the firing squad.


      • Azrajo says:

        Perhaps Sessions knew and a big birdie whispered in his ear that if anything was revealed his old friends in the Senate would be found out. They, especially the Repubicans would be tried, drawn and quarter. Perhaps he was advised that in order to save the Senate especially young Rubio ,who’s backer had a role in the beginnings of the dossier ,and his good friend the Great Patriot John McCain he needed to recuse himself.

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  5. Mac45 says:

    Here is my take on all of this.

    In 2016, Adm. Rogers shut down the FISA 702 searches which were being done improperly, if not illegally. To reestablish surveillance on the Trump campaign, the plot was launched to obtain a Title 1 warrant on a member of the campaign. The reason why this was necessary, was because Trump was trending and he was threatening to lock up HRC. And, as we learned from Comey, when he closed the Servergate case against her, she was dirty as hell and did, in fact, commit several federal felonies. So, they send a couple of agents undercover to collect humint from within the campaign, while they used international IC sources to establish a predicate for an FBI counter intelligence investigation of the Trump Campaign, including a Title 1 warrant which would include electronic surveillance on virtually the entire campaign staff. It was all based upon lies.

    So, fast forward to November 2016. Trump wins and HRC loses. Now a real problem exists. What about HRC. Will Trump attempt to make good on his campaign promise and reopen the investigation on HRC? The conspirators can not take a chance on that happening. So they essentially triple down on their efforts to Get Trump.. You have the IC community, the LE community, the courts and the Congress all involved in the Get Trump conspiracy. It is so widespread that exposure could bring down the unelected government, the bureaucracy. .So the coverup is launched along with the existing Get Trump campaign.

    Fast forward to the beginning of 2019. The Mueller Get Trump investigation is going nowhere and its activities are beginning to expose other improprieties and illegalities. So, enter Bill Barr. Barr is the fixer. His job is to identify which government officials are most in danger, from the anti-Trump forces’ activities. His other job was to shut down the Get Trump forces, before they lost all control of the cover-up. This has proven impossible. There existed no point, after the Page warrant was issued, where the conspiracy could have gone back. Barr could not have put the genie back in the bottle. And, to prosecute Wolfe would only have broken the bottle. Would this have destroyed the Union or saved it? Who knows, But, Barr’s job was to try to save it while maintaining the status quo.

    Personally, I do not think that Barr would have been able to stop or change much of anything. By the time his faction of the Establishment got involved in trying to stop the Get Trump faction’s activities, it was already too late. At this time, I have no idea where this will all end up. If the people responsible are charged, there is a very good chance that they will roll over on other VIPs. And, then those people could be charged and they could name more names. And, there is a very good chance that this would go all the way to the then POTUS, BHO. How, will the Establishment respond? How about the liberal power structure in this country.? How will the Trump backers react?

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    • theoldgoat says:

      The whole mess also influenced the 2018 election putting the Democrats in control of the House, and Schiff who is up to his popping eyeballs in this, as everything he has said regarding the Russia Collusion mess turns out to be the cover up story. He wouldn’t have that on his own.
      The House impeachment is a further effort to cover up these crimes. It means the DNC was a major player in the whole plot. That means Hillary and Obama.
      And so much of this information, maybe not with all the I’s dotted and T’s crossed, but most of it we knew about. Nunes told us, the leaks of the texts between the deranged lovers, Herr Mueller’s strong arm tactics that was a DNC lawyer dream team looking to find any crime to hang Trump with.
      This was a Democrat operation with the blessings of Comey, McCabe, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Mueller, Rosenstein, and the whole Lawfare group. Schiff, Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler are also tied in it.
      You also have all the legal changes made by Obama and his regime just prior to leaving office. All this was a conspiracy to commit sedition. There is no sugar coating it.
      Sessions might have been railroaded into recusing himself, but that doesn’t excuse him. He jumped at it with no thought given.
      We also have a propaganda team from all the major networks who were part of all this, pushing their agenda and that means the DNC agenda. We have Ciaramella, Vindman, the various congress critters who all were stealing from the US taxpayers through Ukraine.
      This is beyond huge. And is known publicly, even if the propaganda wing has been actively covering it up and pushing their hate narrative. It all leads to Obama and Jarrett.
      Funny how the country could survive railroading Nixon out, even though so much of that was because the DNC saw he was effective, even if he was shady. They took him down through continual pushing of different narratives, just like they were trying to do to Trump.
      Only with Trump he was facing the weaponized CIA, FBI, DOJ, and State Department.
      Schumer knew, remember his warning to Trump that the various agencies could get him through all kinds of ways. (Schumer is not really all that bright, he needs to display his insider creds and leaks information they don’t want brought to light.)
      I seriously believe that if this isn’t brought to light through Barr, and Durham, we could be looking at civil war. It is that serious, and the number of people who see what happened is growing, and we are angry.

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    • starfcker says:

      This is probably the best and most direct article I’ve ever read on this site. It’s nice to lay things out, it’s nice to present evidence. This is something different. This goes right to the heart of the matter. We know what we know. Now what are we (the country) going to do? Barr is in a tough spot. When he took the job, he probably had no idea how deep and corrupt this problem was. And now, the only honorable thing to do, the only thing that’s going to keep him going down as a traitor to the republic, is the unleash hell on every colleague he’s had for the last 30 years. “Personally, I do not think that Barr would have been able to stop or change much of anything. By the time his faction of the Establishment got involved in trying to stop the Get Trump faction’s activities, it was already too late.” Nice comment, Mac. I agree with you completely. Sundance, there’s almost nothing more to say. What will Mr. Barr do? He can’t stop this freight train. All he can do is tangle himself up in the same briar patch, if he’s not really careful, and really clear in his actions. I liken him to the Broward County Deputy who didn’t run in and confront the Parkland school shooter. He thought he was brave enough, until the moment he wasn’t. Your move, Mr. Barr. Great job Sundance.

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    • Doppler says:

      Mac45, an excellent post. I remember John Dean, testifying under oath, “my dad taught me, when you’re caught, tell the truth.” At the time, I thought, how about when you’re NOT caught, why would you not tell the truth, unless you’re a basic con man, or fraudster.

      To Bill Barr, I would say, “the truth will set you free.” The truth is, the Obama administration went renegade on the constitution, the CIA, FBI & NSA went rogue in its service, and now they must all be held accountable. There is no other path.


  6. theasdgamer says:

    All the gaslighting by the media won’t change the fact that We Know. We know that our constitution has been overthrown and that we are now governed by the Deep State tyranny.

    Even if conservatives controlled all three branches of govt., what could be done to oppose the Deep State? What power do voters really have? We can only select which crooks will fleece us and continue the Deep State tyranny.

    Bear in mind that Epstein figures into this. He corrupted many Deep State people including people who started out as conservative repubs and they were led into further corruption far beyond statutory rape. Who was behind Epstein? That’s an important question and explains why Barr is covering up the Epstein murder.

    If our constitution has been overthrown and we are under the malevolent Deep State, wouldn’t it be better to get a more benign tyrant to govern us who might allow us to have another Constitutional Convention?

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    • Julian says:

      “Even if conservatives controlled all three branches of govt., what could be done to oppose the Deep State? What power do voters really have?”

      Vote out RINOs like Mitch McConnell for a start.

      Or do you think Mitch McConnell is a ‘conservative’?

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    • theoldgoat says:

      I guarantee you the Clintons and Soros were major players with Epstein. It was already known about Bill and Hillary’s many trips aboard Epstein’s plane to fantasy island.

      Liked by 2 people

  7. amjean says:

    No more excuses; get it done, someone!

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  8. We know. As i have emphasized, writing just that many times; and it is good that Sundance has put that truth so well in this post. I assume that he has done so because of the recent breakthrough in gaining the recognition of Lou Dobbs, in Dobb’s echoing recent Sundance revelations (which we here, of course, have well known, because Sundance has already explained so much). I assume Sundance hopes, as I do, that Dobbs will openly deal with the facts laid out in this Sundance post on his show (tomorrow). This post, this information of the “DOJ Fork in the Road”, is well worthy of your publicizing, Lou. And boy, is it timely, as we all await Barr’s next steps, and we know he has already taken too many steps down the wrong path, taken by Rosenstein-Liu-Warner et al. with James Wolfe.

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  9. Old Lady says:

    Lovely, Sundance, and thank you. We shall soon see who Mr. Barr really is. I hope he has outsiders reviewing the cases because he trusts none of them any longer, and opts to do the right thing.


  10. johneb18 says:

    Rush is scheduled to be back tomorrow. I’m hopeful Bo Snerdley or Rush will be checking here for show prep. He can get this out to 5-6 million people at a clip.

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  11. Newhere says:

    If Barr actually held that press conference, would we instantly be in something like an open civil war — at least among the elites? These people are in full swing operation, and they have A LOT of help. No one’s going quietly. They didn’t do all this just so Barr could slap on some cuffs. And they’ve been in all out warfare to de-legitimize any sort of bona fide gov action under Trump. We’ll be in full-scale meltdown with everyone calling for arrests, impeachments, removals, calling up their own special marshalls, resisting, Lord knows what. I say, let the chips fall — truth must out.

    I can’t see HOW they get away with it. But like SD said, we’re so far down the road …. I don’t see how they don’t.

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    • theoldgoat says:

      If it doesn’t see the light of day, the people will revolt against this government. It is that serious. Think of how angry conservatives got over McCabe getting a pass, and Vindman getting a cushy reassignment. That anger is simmering, and it isn’t going away. We know. We saw the sham impeachment for what it was. We saw the Herr Mueller investigation for what it was. We know was disgusting excuses for human beings Strzok and Page are. We know that the media is part of this.
      We are at the point of “we’re not gonna take it anymore”.

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  12. littlebird160 says:

    “The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
    Edmund Burke

    Liked by 10 people

  13. IGiveUp says:

    Are these articles setting the stage for some reveal this week?

    Liked by 2 people

  14. joan p calhoun says:

    Yes, We do know. We know everything Mister Barr. We know we know we know.

    Liked by 2 people

  15. Pew-Anon says:

    Let’s remember what’s at the root of all this mess; a dark surveillance “institution” that likely has it’s genesis at 9/11. Yes, coming clean would expose the alphabets, sitting senators, and even the previous president. That is monumental enough. But beyond all that lies an institutional surveillance apparatus that will likely dwarf everything Snowden revealed to us. Exposing that is what could actually bring down the real structure of power in this country. Let’s keep this in mind as we entertain thoughts of Barr, congressional RINOs, and everyone else in on and aware of this “institution”. It would go much further than exposing the crimes against the Trump administration. It may even go as far as exposing the crimes behind 9/11. This is probably way bigger than any of us realize.

    Liked by 7 people

    • theoldgoat says:

      If it does, it does. We are at a point where we are a nearly shattered nation thanks in large part to the efforts of the DNC and the Deep State to do as they have pleased with no consequences. We are on the verge of open hostilities. We have not been this divided as a nation since the lead up to the civil war. We are on the edge of another civil war.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Randolph Scott says:

      Bring It!


  16. IGiveUp says:

    I suggest Trump tweets “We Know.”

    Liked by 5 people

  17. Very good article.

    The best solution would be
    a) to completely dissolve the FBI, CIA and DOJ
    b) rebuild it from scratch far outside of DC

    Trying to salvage this corrupt mess, in a place (DC) where 90% voted for Hillary, is like going to Hell to find a virgin. Replacing one corruptocrat with another will not make any difference.

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  18. Richie says:

    Massive bondo application.


  19. littleanniefannie says:

    Those of us who have followed the real story here are the ones who want to let the chips fall where they may. Assange needs to testify, but from a secure location and remotely. I can only wonder if he is in British custody and are these the same British agents who colluded with the Democrat coup to take down President Trump? Jeffrey Epstein likely had career-ending info on multiple Senators and other government officials. Otherwise, how is it possible that he committed Arkancide in a jail cell? Give me a break!
    We know the story. They know we know the story. They trust that we won’t burn down the institutions, this burning them. They also trust that those in Congress (mainly Senators but likely House leadership is also on the take) will do everything possible to cover themselves! The inmates are still running the prison from the agencies with the blessing of lots of Democrats but a fair share of Republicans as well!

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  20. ezduzit63 says:

    Great Job Sundance..


  21. 🍺Gunny66 says:

    And…….The Pulitzer Prize goes to:

    Sundance…….and who is Sundance?

    Well….ah……no one actually knows his real identity………

    He is just some guy from Florida……with a chainsaw……who helps his neighbors……who has a web site ……that gets up to 100,000 views a day…….

    And…….who has identified and exposed the greatest coup against an American President in History…..

    Oh yeah………And Sundance has thousands upon thousands of followers from all over the world calling themselves Treeper’s……and they are demanding and shouting….

    “Burn it Down” ………Burn Down the Corruption”

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  22. Rick554 says:

    The most important post I’ve read this weekend……WE KNOW! And They Know We Know!! And I believe that They are scared to death. All their I’ll -begotten perks and fortunes are at risk! They will fight and so so will we. But….we will fight for our Familes, our Freedom and our a Country. They won’t win. We Know! Thanks Sundance. Rick554. REDHORSE!!


  23. MACAULAY says:

    Haven’t read any of the many responses above but want to say this a brilliant, illuminating and very depressing report.

    Liked by 1 person

  24. ChampagneReady says:

    It has been reported that Mike Rogers was cooperating extensively with Durham. If that’s the case, and with what he knew alone, I don’t see any way possible that just THAT wouldn’t be enough to have frog marches of numerous of these termites.

    The FISC freaked with what he told them which resulted in the Chief Judge writing that blistering condemnation of the FBI.


    • wcmcgirt says:

      Yes, but that blistering condemnation was followed by NO action from the FISA court to remedy the problem. The can was properly kicked down the road and everyone moved on.


  25. IGiveUp says:

    Not only do we know, but every day that passes without Barr saying anything is another day where he becomes an accomplice. For a supposed smart guy, how did he become the fall guy?

    Liked by 1 person

  26. Bogeyfree says:

    This AG Barr is why so many Americans are pissed off.

    So let’s recap all of the “incidents” that have occurred over the past few years and you tell me if truth and justice is paramount anymore and if there isn’t a two tier system of justice within DC!

    1) Uranium One – No Crimes, No Indictments

    2) Hammer 47 Hard Drives – No Crimes, No Indictments

    3) Anwan Brothers – No Crimes, No Indictments

    4) HRC Unsecured Server & 33K Emails – No Crimes, No Indictments

    5) Wiener Laptop Email Contents – No Crimes, No Indictments (outside Wiener)

    6) DNC Server Hack – Alleged Crime, No Indictments

    7) Seth Rich murder – No arrests

    8) Fake Dossier and fraud on FISA Court 4 times – No Crimes, No Indictments

    9) Years of FISA Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments

    10) Years of FIB Contractor Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments

    11) Carter Page FISA Leak – No Crime for Leaking (just one count lying)

    12) Numerous other Classified Leaks – No Crimes, No Indictments

    13) Numerous referrals to DOJ – No Crimes, No Indictments

    14) Numerous Agents violating policy – No Crimes, No Indictments

    15) Ukraine WB fraud – No Crimes, No Indictments

    16) Impeachment Fraud and made up narrative by House Leader – No Crimes, No Indictments

    17) Ukraine Money Laundering – No Crimes, No Indictments

    18) Epstein – No Crimes, No indictments

    Seriously, look at this list and virtually NOTHING from our Government!

    I’m not sure it is even statistically possible but here it is.

    I think as more and more Americans see lists like these coupled with the lists of their people who got a pass and our people who get indicted, they clearly see the bias and injustice.

    The American people see and now know, so what’s it going to be, truth and equal justice or just more of the same?

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  27. Blind no Longer says:

    Listening to Trey Gowdy on Maria’s show today, he insinuated that the reason for the delay in prosecuting McCabe was they could not get an indictment. How will we ever know if this is the case?
    If all these cases were to be tried in D.C. or Virginia, then no one regardless of mountains of evidence would ever be indicted there…assuming everyone is a fellow traveler.

    If this is true about being unable to get a grand jury to agree to prosecute…how could anyone except someone supporting the President, ever be indicted there?

    Could Barr go before the public and announce plans to charge people in the DOJ/FBI/Intel community knowing they might not be convicted? If they are not convicted does this give the Fake News media, Deep State, DOJ/FBI/Intel, a way to point the finger and say see revenge prosecution–we’re all innocent and Barr is just punishing the political enemies of President Trump?

    Hell fire, I don’t see what difference it makes, because the media, Deep State, DOJ etc are already out there accusing him of this very thing, Could he reverse course with a news conference, using all the same tactics the Dems used in impeachment. Screens with statements by them, scrolling the text messages between Warner/Waldman, Page/ Strok, Watkins/Wolfe, proving to the public these are examples of the corruption and the need for the public to know what has been happening to remove President Trump from office.

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  28. dasantacroce says:

    Donald Trump, a singular individual is facing an establishment created in the post war world. I’m old enough to remember the first coup, JFK; the second coup, Richard Nixon, the attempted third coup against Reagan and, the coup de grace on 9/11. We also had Robert Kennedy and Dr. King along the way. Now, we have the fourth coup attempt. Barr sees all this stuff. He’s agreed to sign on and suffer all the BS. I don’t care that McCabe lied. I care that he acted to subvert my right to vote. We are looking at a potential outcome where an entire political party can be indicted as a RICO organization. If Barr goes to the judiciary committee and accuses them of obstruction that would be rich indeed. Remember FISA brings down the house. This is all unfolding in the middle of a presidential campaign. The systematic destruction of the old guard. And we’ll watch it on TV. Like Dallas.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Publius2016 says:

      plus FISA up for renewal on March 15

      remember FISA controls more than just surveillance but also the protocols for Legislative and Judicial branches to control the Executive!

      “The act was created to provide judicial and congressional oversight of the government’s covert surveillance activities of foreign entities and individuals in the United States, while maintaining the secrecy needed to protect national security.”


      • joebkonobi says:

        We The People CANNOT allow renewal of FISA without significantly more Fourth Amendment protections. What the FISC is doing to “improve” FISA is chaff and countermeasures to try and console us backwoods, flyover deplorables.


  29. paulashley says:

    “We know.”
    And we have known fir A long time. In fact, 95% of the information Barr needed was uncovered by myriad non-governmenral sources and available to the public even before Barr started the Durham investigation. The fact that a year plus has gone by with nothing to show from Barr is demoralizing to say the least. Every day I lose confidence in Baer’s willingness to seize the historic moment with action rather than scholarly, collegial, and passionless talk.


  30. Ronald E Jaeger says:

    Time to take a flamethrower to the DOJ and BURN it all down.

    Liked by 1 person

  31. Ronald E Jaeger says:

    Time to take a flamethrower to the DOJ and BURN it all down.


  32. coolmamie says:

    I read about 30 publications from all points of view every day. That makes me think I have a good handle on what the truth is. But I always remind myself that I might be wrong.

    This is my go-to site, but I never assume there is a corner on the truth here or anywhere. Just like-minded patriots who have found a voice they find worthy. I have learned much here, and am grateful.

    I think it is foolish to think there are any truths here that Trump or Barr do not know. Both of them know far more than any of us. I well remember when Barr took the AG position – I knew then that he would be relentlessly attacked if he went against the deep state. I do not buy that he found the job harder than he expected or that he can’t take the heat.

    What ever the schedule, however long it takes, the truth will eventually come out, and Barr knows this. Do I really think he wants to be remembered as a fixer? No, I just don’t.

    One simple explanation of the recent dueling Stone tweets could be this: Trump does Trump, and Barr is trying his best to maintain as much of an appearance of objectivity as possible.

    This is all so important, but it all pales in comparison to how important it is that Trump be reelected.


  33. Hollywood Bungalow says:

    Barr has chosen to simply referee. He’s telling the Coup Group that a coup is not OK but then he isn’t going to prosecute the Coup Group for their actions.


  34. Baby Hurley says:

    OAN has a this special on right now…
    FISA Spying on Team Trump
    Massive illegal spying on Team Trump is finally revealed; shocking facts are described as the greatest law enforcement scandal in the history of the United States.

    Liked by 2 people

    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Well Done – Hopefully, that applies to Barr, too.

      OAN Newsroom
      One America News Investigates: FISA Spying On Team Trump
      UPDATED 6:40 PM PT — Friday, January 17, 2020
      Don’t miss OAN’s special report on massive illegal spying on the Trump campaign. One America News breaks down Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report, which uncovered FISA abuses by the Obama-era FBI and DOJ as they sought to take down then-candidate Donald Trump.

      Tune in Saturday, January 18th and Sunday, January 19th at 8AM PST / 11AM EST to hear the shocking facts described as the greatest law enforcement scandal in the history of the United States.

      Liked by 2 people

    • islandpalmtrees says:


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  35. William Schneider says:

    I love the clarity of your thinking Sundance. I have been praying for Barr for over a year now-that he has wisdom and courage to help clean up the corruption in Washington. His job is monumental but he is capable of getting this done. This is his moment in history to do the courageous and just thing and move to reveal the truth concerning the enormous corruption that has occurred in our government over the last several years. Let us all pray for this man to give him the strength to do the seeming impossible- bring the army of crooks to justice and shine the line of truth on this whole monstrous political horror story in Washington and beyond. He cannot do this alone-without God.May God help Mr. Barr and bless the USA.

    How sweet the truth would be after so much filthy lying and evil. I pray that Barr knows that Sundance and millions of others knwo the truth already. Do the right things Mr. Barr.


  36. loteal2014 says:

    I think republicans never trumpers we’re behind this fiasco. Cover up is the only way to salvage both parties.

    Liked by 1 person

  37. loteal2014 says:

    Along side dems

    Liked by 1 person

  38. MagaMia says:

    On March 31st, Barr will testify before the House Judiciary Committee to some of the most outstanding MAGA Republicans–Doug Collins, John Ratcliffe, Louie Gohmert, Jim Jordan, Debbie Lesko, Mike Johnson, Matt Gaetz, Andy Biggs……….

    So I put my faith in God, PDJT, and in this MAGA crew TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS (and pray that Nadler doesn’t find a way to gag them).

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  39. Publius2016 says:

    AG Barr is caught between Loyalty and the Truth!

    DOJ has been his life’s work but Uniparty Deep State Think Tank Black Ops has metastasized into a GLOBAL CANCER that threatens to DESTROY OUR REPUBLIC!

    This is a time for choosing and AG Barr will perform his duty and protect USA and 45 from all enemies foreign and domestic!


  40. ezgoer says:

    So many people continuing to beat a dead horse. Barr was confirmed by the Senate because he is part of the Establishment and will cover up the coup conspiracy so it never is exposed. That is now clear. It’s all over but the press release from Durham. After a thorough investigation no criminality was found.The investigation is now closed. America will never be the same.

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  41. Kokanee says:

    One year from now… Nobody will be in jail. I don’t think this post will see the light of day…. but that is on Sundance.


  42. Deplorable Canuck says:

    When the hell is the DOJ going to hire Sundance to come in there and kick some serious ass.

    Liked by 1 person

  43. kleen says:

    Hey Bill Barr,

    Grenell: Trump’s Tweeting ‘Makes My Job So Much Easier’

    I love this guy!

    I love gay-conservatives such as Jim Hoft (Gateway Pundit) Scott Pressley, Brandon Straka…

    I noticed gay conservatives are VERY passionate and willing to give all for this country.


  44. Theckman says:

    Remember Barr was brought on to help Trump deal with the Mueller Investigation. Trump was getting so frustrated he wanted to fire Rosenstien at one point. Exactly what the Lawfare led Russian investigation was trying to get Trump to do. They wanted to catch Trump obstructing justice blah blah blah since they knew the investigation was a sham!!
    Barr guaranteed Trump he could address a quick, positive resolution. In return I am sure Trump gave Barr who knows what in the deal.
    Perhaps Barr’s final say on release of certain documents, power on other fronts, who knows?!
    Trump had that impeachment crap over his head with the Mueller Investigation going on by then for over 2 years or so. That’s nuts!!!
    Notice as soon as Barr came on the it was addressed swiftly and MSM, democrats, Trump haters were put in their place.
    I believe that cost Trump as far as the power Barr has over certain investigations and obviously their outcomes.
    Trump had no choice, who knows what would have happened if Sessions was still AG. Look what the idiots tried to impeach Trump on recently.
    If you pay attention to the inaction of Barr in regards to going after the corruption it’s obvious nothing will happen. In LE you get the evidence as fast as possible, and move forward. Once Barr started charging people, it would be the domino effect.
    Why risk another administration coming in while investigating such sensitive partisan corruption??
    Barr has no intention of doing anything and is killing time, hinting perhaps if Teump serves another term he’s out.
    Trump and Barr made a deal that worked for both sides regarding heads won’t fly if Barr can put an end to the witchhunt regarding Russia.
    The problem is now the swamp will move on to dig up other manufactured dirt on Trump to impeach and/or try to discredit him.
    This country is run by a mafia like group and Barr is defintely one of them.
    Barr came out f retirement, like a good soldier to fix things. Trump benefited, but, long term no thanks!
    Trump is being told his wings are being clipped in a very public way. I am sure many of you will not agree, but, McConnell supporting Barr publicly that was the two of them sending a powerful message to Trump.
    Trump came in office with the house and senate and look at what Ryan and McConnell did to Trump. They didn’t exactly fast track legislation that would have addressed some issues that have not gotten enough attention such as immigration, health care, infrastructure, ect..
    McConnell, Ryan, Graham, McCain they were all working against Trump and we the people that elected Trump and his agenda.
    All a bunch of criminals!!!!

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  45. California Joe says:

    The highest ranking officials in the DOJ and FBI attempted an insurrection against the President of the United States by framing him for a crime that not only he didn’t commit but a crime that never even happened. In response the Attorney General of the United States, William Barr, is more concerned with protecting the reputation of the plotters and insurrectionists than stopping the continued attacks on the legally elected President. Why?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Rileytrips says:

      Because the crimes encompass the entire federal government – even elected Senators and House Representatives….of BOTH parties – heck, even federal judges (possibly even SCOTUS). Basically, the most powerful people in America. What a challenge! How can one police/enforce the laws and exact accountability from such a HUGE group of seditious, thieving, criminals!!!


  46. MVW says:

    When oligarchs own the media, Bezos, Slim, Bloomberg, AT&T (owns CNN), Fox has Saudi’s on their board, Reuters and AP are owned also by the same group and feed the news cycle, etc, then corruption goes unchecked. I watch as Hollywood follows the Bloomberg money like dogs keep their eyes on treats. Money makes actors play roles but that is no longer reserved tor fiction. News is the new fiction.

    Anti-Trust laws are badly needed to bust up this stranglehold and corruption of America’s information sources.

    Liked by 2 people

  47. kleen says:

    I wonder if Barr is scared to expose the corruption so he is looking for a way out.

    I wonder if he will resign as a way out of this.

    Perhaps delaying the Durham investigation.


  48. Brutalus says:

    “WE KNOW” is Made-to-Stick….it needs to become a thing

    Liked by 2 people

  49. kleen says:

    Will Barr be Bolton 2.0?


  50. AnotherView says:

    Rereading this article makes me even more annoyed and angry. Especially since I know Barr got the sniper off on the Ruby Ridge murders. He’s nothing but a bag man, bought in to coverup establishment messes. Comey, Epstein, McCabe. Don’t count on true justice in this country ever again. Not with this lying pig at helm.

    Liked by 9 people

    • paulyho39 says:

      What REALLY angers me is all these people reporting on this stuff…on Tucker. Hannity, Ingrahm…and their guest commentators…John Solomon, Sarah Carter and others…who all proclaim so confidently all the trust they have in Barr! They seem to think he is really working on cleaning up the mess….this just seems to be further lies! Is the NO ONE…not even ONE…who will ever tell us TRUTH in all of this??

      Liked by 4 people

      • coltlending says:

        yea…same BS different day…just like we were told Mueller was solid.

        Then we find he’s mentally soft as puppy pooh or hustling us that he was before he finally showed up to speak before the committe.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Issy says:

        There was a great deal of truth in the Horowitz Report on fisa abuse. What has been done with it? Barr’s answer on accountability was, they’re all gone, aren’t they. We know the truth. What do you get from Barr? If questioned, he complains POTUS is making it impossible to do his job. That’s all you need to know.


    • John-Y128 says:

      William Barr is most certainly NOT an American Patriot.


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