The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

For the past week CTH has been outlining some lengthy research, highlighting key issues to help understand the background of what is evident.  If you’ve followed along, in this outline the individual pieces will all come together.  Bill Barr has a very big problem…

Andrew McCabe cannot be prosecuted in 2020 for the same reason James Wolfe could not be prosecuted in 2018. When we understand why we realize the problem that Michael Flynn now represents to U.S. Attorney Bill Barr.

United States Attorney General Bill Barr was not around in 2017 or 2018 when the DOJ was faced with the issues resulting from an investigation of intelligence leaks and Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) Security Director James Wolfe.

When the prosecution of SSCI Director James Wolfe was being considered, AG Jeff Sessions was recused; the Robert Mueller probe was ongoing; and as a consequence Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and U.S. Attorney for DC Jessie Liu were decision-makers.

I’m not going to repeat all the issues, you can re-read them HERE; however, the baseline is that Wolfe could not be prosecuted without running the risk of collapsing key institutions of the U.S. government. The consequences of a Wolfe prosecution were beyond the capacity of Rod Rosenstein, or the DOJ to handle.  There would have been massive constitutional crises created and the literal definition of ‘sedition‘ was at the center of it.

Accepting the 2018 objectives from Rosenstein; and factually I doubt Jeff Sessions would have made a different decision even if he was not recused; when AG Barr takes the helm in February 2019 he is forced to carry-over those same objectives.

In essence, regardless of Bill Barr’s outlook or opinion of what took place, he had no alternative except to defend the previous decisions.  As a result Barr has no option except to protect Rod Rosenstein.

If former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe was ever to be prosecuted the same issues that surfaced with James Wolfe would surface again.  The actions by DAG Rosenstein in 2017 merged with the objectives of Andrew McCabe at the same time. {SEE HERE}

It can be debated whether Rosenstein collaborated with McCabe purposefully, or whether he was blind to the prior year corrupt activity within the DOJ/FBI and fell into a trap.  It doesn’t really matter what Rosenstein’s 2017 motives were; the facts show Rosensteins’ actions facilitated the goals of McCabe and the corrupt actors within the DOJ/FBI.

Those actions had consequences, very serious consequences, and those consequences are what matters.

There is no way of prosecuting Andrew McCabe without putting Rod Rosenstein into the same crosshairs of consequence. {Go Deep} Rosenstein facilitated the FBI operations being run by Comey, McCabe, Baker, Strzok, Page, Clinesmith, Pientka and eventually culminating in Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissman et al.

When you truly understand this context you also understand why Joseph Pientka III has a blanket protective order over him.  The all-encompassing protective order is as much about preserving and protecting the institution of the DOJ as it is protecting the fulcrum of corrupt activity Supervisory Special Agent One, Joseph Pientka III, represents.

The DOJ had to throw a bag over Pientka or eliminate him.  Thankfully, and not surprisingly, they chose the former and now he’s under protection.

DAG Rosenstein could not prosecute James Wolfe without exposing ‘seditious‘ activity within the U.S. government itself.  Not pretend sedition or theoretical sedition, but an actual pre-planned subversive operation with forethought and malice.

Likewise AG Bill Barr cannot prosecute Andrew McCabe without exposing the same ‘seditious‘ activity; which also encompasses the activity of Rod Rosenstein.  Whether Barr wants to protect Rosenstein is moot; if Barr wants to protect the institutions from sunlight on two years of actual seditious activity, he has to protect Rosenstein.

It’s the underlying activity that cannot be allowed to surface; the institutions of government are not strong enough, nor are they set-up to handle, prosecutions that overlap all three branches of government. [ex. read former questions]

However, that said, now AG Bill Barr is facing a downstream and parallel issue within the prosecution of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.  How can Michael Flynn be sentenced for lying to the FBI when the DOJ is necessarily refusing to prosecute Andrew McCabe (at least what has been made public) for the exact same behavior?

Against this dynamic, the DOJ has two options: (Option A) go even harder at General Flynn using additional charges that are not as comparable to McCabe.  (Option B) find a way to drop the prosecution.

This dynamic is why the McCabe prosecution was not resolved in 2018.  This issue explains why there has been such a delay in the McCabe issue(s) since Bill Barr came into the picture in February 2019.

If Flynn just took the plea, everything would have been easier for the DOJ.  There would have been nothing to compare between the two, and time would have created distance to avoid any real comparison.  But Flynn reversed position and backed away from the plea.

So what do we see?

We see McCabe given an institutionally necessary free pass, and now Barr bringing in another federal prosecutor from St. Louis to reevaluate Flynn’s position.  The two options are again being debated: Crush Flynn on other matters; or drop it.

Take the totality of all these issues together.  Think about them for a while…

…Now do we see why AG Bill Barr needs President Trump to shut up?

Rod Rosenstein essentially protected James Wolfe because he saw no way the institutions of the U.S. government could survive the potential evidence in a trial.  Setting aside opinion on Rosenstein’s enabling of the sedition; enabling underpinning seditious activity; the decision makes sense.  [Consequences too big to jail]

Bill Barr is essentially protecting Andrew McCabe, and as a consequence Rod Rosenstein, out of a similar necessity.  From AG Barr’s perspective, there’s no way the institutions of government could survive the potential evidence at a McCabe trial; and McCabe would call Rosenstein as a defense witness.   [Consequences too big to jail]

At the heart of the matter, in the real activity that took place, there was a multi-branch seditious effort to remove President Donald J Trump.  From the perspective of those charged with the actual administration of justice – there is no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions survive.  What we are witnessing is a dance between increasingly narrowing rails and the DOJ trying to find an exit.

All of this 2020 angst is a downstream consequence of the 2018 decision not to prosecute James Wolfe; and the specific reason why they made that decision.

Those who framed the sedition recognize Bill Barr’s outlook on institutional preservation is an opportunity to weaponize against him. That is why four prosecutors could so easily defy his authority and set Barr up with the Roger Stone sentencing recommendation.

The Lawfare team know Bill Barr is trying to navigate away from exposing seditious  corruption the same Lawfare team helped facilitate.  The Lawfare group know Barr cannot prosecute McCabe; and they know exactly why. The Lawfare group can also see Barr protecting Rosenstein; and again, they know the reason why.

The corrupt crew saw what the DOJ and FBI did when they had the opportunity to expose it all in 2018.  DAG Rosenstein was afraid.

In 2020 AG Barr’s value for the institutions is also why AG Barr is afraid…

The seditious group filled the DOJ fire truck tanks with gasoline, and then they lit the House on fire.  General Flynn is trapped on the roof…. The neighborhood is shouting at fire Chief Barr “put out the fucking fire you idiots“, and wondering why everyone is just watching the House burn. Meanwhile, there’s several firefighters who know what’s in the tanks, and they are standing, smiling, hoses at the ready, cheering-on the angry shouts from the crowd…

Washington Post Article Here

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President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.

The only way I can see out of this mess; the one crack in the current lock box; is the FISA court order for the DOJ to present the identified downstream consequences from fraud upon the court.  The FISC might actually be the ladder truck here.  With the DOJ and FBI currently assembling the investigative consequences, ie. the sequestration material, Flynn’s current legal status might be identified as an outcropping of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.

Let’s hope those on the sequestration mission can return the information prior to the flames reaching the roof…

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1,327 Responses to The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

  1. theoldgoat says:

    I’m sorry but this “too big to fail” means elections mean nothing, we have a massively corrupt DOJ thanks in large part to Obama’s regime, we have a massively corrupt FBI, CIA, thanks to Obama’s regime.
    A lot of people know that sedition occurred. Frankly, I’m sick of criminals who were working to upend our elections because they stood with the Democrats in hate because one of the most corrupt political families had their second chance at robbing the US and selling our assets for their gain lost, getting a free pass because it’s difficult.
    How can anyone accept that it is OK for numerous people to commit sedition against a President, they get a pass and go off on sticking their middle finger up at all of America because it might harm the institutions they worked to destroy for the sake of politics? As far as I am concerned, I have zero trust in these institutions. How does letting these traitors to the country off help anything but to allow this to happen again? These bastards were ready to go scorched earth, the same with those in the House because of their political agendas. How has that not already damaged the DOJ, the FBI, the Judicial, the CIA?
    No, we can’t let these departments and agencies go through tough times because a person who was looking to “fundamentally change” the US put in place people who sold their souls for the political left who are looking to overthrow our government with some socialist/Marxist belief system.
    The damned thing is already destroyed.
    This is the stuff which is ripping this country apart, and covering it up by giving a pass to seditionists because these institutions are so corrupted it will cause problems. Well, it already nearly over turned a duly elected President. Think that couldn’t have led to a second Civil War? We are already on the brink of one. Half the country has little to no faith in this system, and THAT was before this excusing of seditionist cabal going unpunished. And the POS seditionists didn’t stop with trying once to over throw our head of government, they did it multiple times and are threatening to do it again and again till they succeed.
    What faith would you put in a government which worked to cover up crimes that succeeds in committing the seditious crime of removal of a President because one party hates him?
    This is nearly a burn it all down type move. And giving them a pass is worse than ripping off the bandage and cleaning house. This covering up of their crimes is what is bringing this country to it’s downfall.
    This is the type of garbage that destroys nations. So, let these people off while Barr plays the part of Nero playing his bagpipes while Washington burns down and we see this once great nation committed to he ash heap of history.

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  2. Jennifer Verner says:

    They are not protecting the institutions. They are utterly destroying them. After this, the 63 million people who voted for Trump, the real heart and soul of this country, the people who love it, and who work hard to make it the great nation that it is, will never trust the DOJ or FBI again. Ever. And God willing, if Trump is re-elected, I want him to fire Barr if he doesn’t prosecute these traitorous criminals, declassify everything, go after them with a fury and let the chips fall.

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    • jnr2d2 says:

      This is absolutely what I was going to say!!! I would add the CIA, NSC, our “allies” in Europe and “Five Eyes” and State. The Senate and House Intelligence Committees at least. And possibly our courts (FISA at a minimum).
      Sundance: You maybe right, but if you are, then there are only two other alternatives, both worst than cleaning out all the seditious traitors thru prosecution. For at least the cleaning might re-establish the civilian “rule of law.” The two alternatives are:
      1) Marshal law and military tribunals, or
      2) the even worse alternative civil war.

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      • jnr2d2 says:

        I will add that economically, the first is much preferable, the second pretty bad economic disruption, but the last total economic disaster.
        I’ll vote for door number one Bob.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Trump could always pardon anyone charged with lying to the FBI and call it equal justice so we do not have the appearance of a two tiered justice system. Trump can say Barr set the standard here. Problem solved.

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    • Ron Jaeger says:

      AMEN !!!!!

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    • VegGOP says:

      For those who might be interested the following remarkable fact directly pertains to Astrononymous’s foregoing post, “what would George Washington do today?”

      [Warning for readers who believe TCH is exclusively for meat-eating, reincarnation-denying, Christians who claim Jesus is the ONLY path to salvation: please try NOT to judge deeply spiritual people (like me) who are vegetarians, believe in reincarnation and believe Jesus was A son of the ONLY Father (i.e. that the word “only” got misplaced).]

      Japanese spiritual guru and psychic Ryuho Okawa, founder of the Happy Science Church, has been claiming since about 2015 that Trump is the reincarnation of George Washington. I have not met Okawa, but I have met about a dozen of his Japanese followers (some on numerous occasions), and I have attended one of their church services in the Los Angeles, CA area. They are all DIE HARD Trump supporters, who believe Trump is the same soul as GW.

      [The “fact” I am asserting here is that Okawa and his church members say they BELIEVE this… I am NOT asserting as a “fact” that the belief is true. However, for my own personal reasons, I too believe it is true.]

      https://info.happy-science.org/2016/455/
      https://info.happy-science.org/2017/496/

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    • Robert Smith says:

      George Washington would have executed them already.

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    • willyeye says:

      I believe Washington would declare Marshall Law, inform (by tweet) the American public that an attempted coup has barely been thwarted, and then send in the military and Federal Law enforcement, and track down all the seditious dogs and their accomplices and execute them where they stand. I don’t think Trump would do it “Washington style”. Unfortunately that’s about the only course of action that could still save our Republic, aside from Civil War II, which would cost many million more lives.

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      • zorrorides says:

        Willy, I thing this metaphor stands more for Washington found living in the colonies in the circumstances of the 1770s. First he led the thinkers and common people into the reasons why liberty was right for us. Then GW led them into acceptance of war to be free, if it came to that. Then GW became both General and First Citizen, and came the war in America.

        GW lost and mostly lost until he won complete victory, and it was terrible to get there.

        Our Trump is still in leading us into the reasons why we should have liberty. He is not at the position of Washington as President.

        You’re right about what GW would do to seditious coupists, and all his nation would be glad he did it.

        Our President Trump still needs his Yorktown, and I believe it’s coming.

        You got me to thinking and thanks.

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    • Rock Knutne says:

      I think George Washington would use marshal law and re-establish the rule of law.

      That being said, I’m not sure President Trump has enough of the military on his side.
      #44, the first gay president, has so deeply entrenched every institution and government agency with sycophants that it’s not clear what might happen.

      Where was the military outcry over Vindman? How about General Flynn?

      I’m quite sure President Trump has the military ‘soldiers/fighting men’ on his side but the leadership??

      president twinkletoes didn’t do sh1t while he was in office but he was busy as hell embedding termites deep into government woodwork.

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  3. I believe that the reason Barr is bringing in new people to look at the Flynn case is so that they can double down on his (Flynn’s) prosecution/ persecution. Hopefully, the great Sidney Powell will be able to save the General from a fate worse than death. If anyone can do it, it’s her.

    The old saying about “honor among thieves” applies to Barr at this point- he has none left. For all his concern about the FU institutions, he seems to be missing the point of the oath that he took to protect and defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States.

    Our President Trump is not going to let them get away with this. Count on it.

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    • WSB says:

      Seneca, I am so trying to figure this out.

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    • jimboct says:

      I believe if Barr wanted to sweep this under the rug, he wouldn’t bring in the out of state prosecutors. He has plenty of deep staters in DC and compliant judges (Jackson and contreares) to do it.
      I think (and maybe it’s optimism) that he wants to know all of the players. I believe that is durhams remit. He needs airtight cases or this all blows up and the senate deep state will convict VSGPDJT.
      If our President fails to win re-election, I bet it all comes out during the lame duck. I feel this will all come to a head before the election.

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    • zekness says:

      barr is bringing in new eyes into flynn because there are too many issues around the matter to continue that case and still maintain his credibility and the institution he prizes above all else. As he should in the sense that his job is to ensure that his organization is properly applying equal, fair and reasonable justice.

      but, as SD has pointed out, there are known political issues that were created in a parallel case AND that the President of the United States is directly involved and has made this a very big deal, as he should continue to do so.

      barr has “solved” these problems by essentially removing himself and others that have created these problems and replacing them. The idea is to achieve a more robust, open, scrutiny about how the flynn case is going to be handled by examining what problems, if any, can be corrected before the case proceeds any further. This also mitigates against the perception that barr is being bullied to do a thing that would damage his institution and also his own power. It’s a little of doing the right thing and also the bonus of gaining some perceptions benefits.

      I predict the new eyes will recommend the case be dismissed against flynn.

      And while I do think SD has a rather excellent view about how this case and the “pickle” barr is soaking in, and the larger corruption he is probably going to have to just sweep under the rug, he can do the latter (with a clinched jaw, I write this), there is really nothing that prevents him from doing the right thing with General Flynn.

      I want to point out some facts that distinguish the two cases with the full understanding there are some complex similarlities that SD explores..

      a. Wolfe did in fact commit the criminal violation of leaking classified material to the press. He was caught and lied about it. Yes, he was given a plea deal….yes, it was not the right way to handle this criminal violation. It’s ugly and it was not fair or correct. We all know that..But he was CAUGHT STEALING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL OF THE HIGHEST ORDER AT LEAST ONCE. No manner of plea deals will ever change this fact.

      b. General flynn was INVESTIGATED for not completing some paperwork correctly about his paid work for a foreign interest. There were no charges that this work was nefarious or even against national security interests. He was investigated about this matter because he was caught up in a surveillance warrant that was fraudulently manufactured by the IC! This is becoming very clear to everyone. Even if Boasberg stopped short, we know the first FISA, the second, the third and the final fourth were based on fantasy and complete fabrication before a secret court that thus far has done nothing to correct or to discipline the officials who won those warrants by deceit actions. Furthermore, there have been no remedies for the following cases that were created by these fraud warrants, one of which is the General Flynn case! Ultimately, General flynn was manipulated under the threat of serious consequence to play ball and plead down to a perjury charge. And it so happens that his defense counsel acted in violation of proper representation with evidence to show they were never interested in truly representing him. (records show these people were actually working to get him to plead guilty and acted in bad faith against his interests and the rule of law). General Flynn, NOW understanding the scale and scope of corruption about the entire investigation, the perjury trap, and the irregular manner in which he defense counsel acted on his behalf, has withdrawn his plead deal. He is actively defending his innocence on the basis that the entire predicate for the investigation, the charges and the perjury trap were all consequences of a corrupt FBI intent …that originated all the way back to the very first FISA warrant corruptly acquired.

      the two cases could not be more different.

      and yes, I understand the nature of the problem that Barr and the DOJ faces about the two cases ….I am no saying these so called problems are not trivial….but I think it would be a mistake to conflate the two cases entirely as even close to the same or similar problems for the rule of law….the circumstances, and the crimes are very very different.

      the evidence is different…the alleged crimes are different….the predicate for the investigations were very different.

      with wolfe, the FBI realized they had a leak problem…a serious leak issue. and so they conducted a well known tracking tradecraft to establish conclusively who that leak was. bingo…wolfe. that’s direct evidence and proof without any fraud element of a corruptly acquired surveillance warrant to collect it.

      with flynn….they used a corruptly acquired spy warrant then spent all of their ammunition targeting him and anyone else in POTUS orbit looking for anything they could find to make a humiliating smear to support a pre-conditioned narrative about russia is coming. It was political coup attempt. All they could determine with Flynn was some work he had done with turkey…and that he did not prepare his paperwork correctly about it. And then laid a trap to have him perjure. There is even conflicting documents that show agents were not convinced he was be dishonest about it. The bigger problem is that if the FBI actually had a serious case of flynn doing something criminal with turkey…they sure didn’t seem convinced it was actually important enough to even pursue….think about it….if he was such a serious threat to national security and was “working for a foreign company at the expense of some national security premise”..why was the FBI so eager to let him plea down to perjury? Yeah, none of it passes the Bullcorn test.

      the two cases are completely different in every real or imagined way.

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      • zekness- EXCELLENT and thought provoking post.

        You have perfectly laid out the differences between the Wolfe and Flynn cases, and why Wolfe should be rotting in super max solitary prison even as I write this.
        Which brings me back to the original point , that Barr is bringing in outside counsel to try and figure out what you just laid out so perfectly. Give me a break.
        The question remains- is this move cover to try and break Flynn or to find good excuses to acquit Flynn and drop all the charges.
        My speculation on the former is based on Barr’s recent excruciatingly bad behavior in the past week.
        Hopefully I am wrong and this is going to be Barr’s way to rescue Gen. Flynn.

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        • beach lover says:

          I’m in the second category, StE. I think they have run into a buzzsaw with Sidney Powell. she has fought hard and worn them down with evidence that was never supposed to be discovered.

          I think the Flynn case will get dismissed. That is probably why Barr brought in outside review. He knows if they continue down this path, it will expose the corrupt prosecutors in the DOJ. My question is whether Sidney and Flynn will be forced into silence in exchange for vindication…and whether that would be acceptable to them.

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        • zekness says:

          I AM INTENSELY focused on the General Flynn case. It’s one part highly emotional for me (General Flynn is a decorated combat Military Officer of the highest distinction.), and it is also one part wanting to understand WHY the DOJ was so aggressive in persecuting him.

          I can thank Sundance for the information he has shared that has allowed me to understand completely the chain of events, the persons responsible (irresponsible), and the circumstances and the corrupt schemes perpetrated by the small group(S)…

          I can also thank RADM Rogers ….it was HIS actions quite a long time ago, that sold me on the suspicions that something very wrong was afoot at the highest echelons of IC and law enforcement.

          I have always be very skeptical of the partiot act. I evaluated the need for uber surveillance powers against the potential they would one day become weaponized for profit, political influence, and leverage by unelected persons. In particular, I have followed closely the warning signs, and the reports and those persons who have openly (and secretly) divulged just exactly happens in FISA surveillance warrants. The very official who wrote these original bills to give the IC these powers, Sensenbrenner has stated multiple times, these powers were NEVER intended to be permanent, or to be focused for anything other than actual foreign terrorism. He has assailed, to no meaningful effect, these programs after they became law because they have been abused routinely and he predicted this would happen. That day is now. We are beyond “mistakes” or “unwitting” collections.

          we are in a police state that favors financial rewards and triple levels of rule of law standards where the players who possess these capabilities are considered “patriots” to the state of spy.

          It is my highest priority to continue to protest these spy powers and get citizens to recognize the threat is real, is current, and is expanding. We must act right now to prevent congress to re-authorize these powers in march! that is just a few weeks away from right now. The provisions of this law requires congress to continue it or to change it, or to drop it entirely.

          My own view is to drop the current set of laws entirely…then commit to some constitutionally correct principles that we can live with that is more transparent and has something more than a rubber stamping FISC that can be abused and misused.

          Convicting some criminals would be welcome too, but I’ll go with a full stop on these powers.

          I believe RADM Rogers would agree this is the best course of action to remove what has become the single greatest threat to the freedom, security and privacy of the citizens “WE THE PEOPLE” of this great and fine nation.

          We the People have this opportunity to protest ….and protest in the most hard no prisoners way to prevent congress from making ANOTHER serious mistake against our own self interest.

          we can do this.

          but it starts with knowing the threat…where it centers….

          it’s the spy laws…

          folks…it’s the surveillance powers written into law.

          that is the source of corruption for these corruptors…

          force them to find some other means to conduct warfare against US.

          allowing congress to quietly sign up for another round if spy powers is going to GUARANTEE this entire saga becomes routine and less likely over time to be revealed.

          we GOT LUCKY this time folks…truly, it was a miracle we learned what we know about this.

          Snowden was probably the early bird for many americans..

          some of us paid attention…and we have been beating this drum for quite a long time.

          it’s the spy powers folks…that is our common enemy.

          remove that, make it clearly unlawful, and our greatest threat to democracy and rule of law, sinks to a much more manageable levels.

          pray for this and act. today…not tomorrow…right now.

          make the calls, write the letters, leverage every person that will help. Make this the issue right now before congress silently inks the deal.

          we cannot allow this to happen.

          it is time to end this nightmare.

          do not wait.

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          • zekness- I cannot thank you enough for your post and the revelations you discussed regarding the spy laws.

            I too have been fearful of the ever expanding police state that has come about after 9/11, even on the local level.
            Talk about a perfect storm- Big Tech and the Spy State Masters of the Universe.
            I agree that somehow we have to get Congress to end at least part of the nightmare. It is a daunting task and I don’t even know who our friends are or who is on our side except for our President Trump.
            I will keep praying and I hope you will continue to get the message out there. It is urgently needed and time is passing quickly.
            Thanks again!

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  4. Battleship Wisconsin says:

    A question here. If AG William Barr resigns or is fired within the next two months, how far could an aggressive Acting Attorney General go in prosecuting Deep State criminal wrongdoing, in wresting control of the department from the Lawfare Group fellow travelers, and in cleaning up the DOJ’s and the FBI’s DC Swamp territorial possessions? Assuming of course the right person was chosen for the job.

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    • Phil says:

      I fear that it’s already too late to charge anyone in 2020,as it’ll be “too close to the election” to risk the appearance of election interference. Barr and Durham are just stalling, until the election. If Trump loses then everything goes in the trash, and if he wins then…we’ll see.

      Unfortunately, few people have Trumps courage.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        lol @ the election interference. Isn’t there ALWAYS a pending election.

        It’s oK to OVERTURN elections, but don’t you dare do anything that your opponents think is positive for America (you), i.e. election interference.

        Can’t investigate Ukraine because Joe Biden & Son because Joe is running for Office.

        Now we can’t prosecute crimes in corrupt government institutions because it’s during an election year? Well they should desist from their crimes during election cycles then.

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        • zekness says:

          the moment sleepy joe steps out of the race …which is likely to happen well before the DNC “pre-selects” the next nominee, all “bets” are off.
          In the meantime, there is NOTHING that can stop the president by making the same remarks or rudy his attorney/private investigator to the effect that will keep this subject in the public ear and eye….

          should barr NOT pursue justice investigation against Biden when he drops out, will signal a firing call to the president…if he is not already kicked to the curve by then.

          my own view, is that this president needs to focus on doing the right thing…with balance.

          on the justice scale, he needs to remove barr and get someone in who will and can operate fairly and objectively that isn’t captured by the corrupt state….But he also needs to do this for cause that will not tilt the winds unfavorable toward him going into the election.

          it’s a nasty balancing work involved.

          Barr has to go.

          Wray has to go.

          it’s really becoming very clear neither of these two people have the stones to overhaul the corrupt institutions or to investigate and correct the criminal activities that led to the corruptly acquired spy warrants. It’s in his best interests to get these people out immediately….take the flak early now…because waiting is not going to make this matter which is a much higher risk to his election possibility if he waits or does nothing.

          I think about it this way: there are serious efforts right now, to tilt the election with unproven fraud against this president. The state wants this to happen. They will allow it to happen. If either of these two jackwagons are in place, there are no fail safes to mitigate against it.

          Only with the correct leadership at the helm at the FBI and DOJ does trump have any chance of being successful. He has to start understanding what is about to happen to him and the people that voted for his ideas.

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    • All the way. The survival of our Nation depends on it.

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    • ezgoer says:

      The Senate will not approve an honest AG who will prosecute the coup conspirators. They will only approve another Barr — someone who wink wink will cover up the crimes. It’s only going to be a groundhog day scenario. Trump can’t win on this.

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    • nimrodman says:

      I don’t know the absolute answer to “how far could an aggressive Acting Attorney General go …”

      … but in the comparative sense, the Acting AG could certainly go farther than Barr

      … because Barr is unwilling

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    • Yes, we need a an acting AG like Jay Sekulow to come in and immediately name at least 10 special prosecutors (from Texas – or somewhere else with lots of patriots) to tear into the massive scandals and corruption that are raging beneath the surface in The Swamp.

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    • Jim says:

      I think he should fire him based on his lack of prosecutions and his hissy fit on ABC about the President’s tweets making it impossible to do his job. Ya man, are we grown ups here or what?

      However, I think if the President fires him, it will impeachment 2.0 and the RINOs will have the excuse they need to vote to convict and remove. Even though he has the constitutional authority to fire him, the enemy will scream obstruction of justice.

      So the President may be stuck for a while.

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      • JC says:

        Perhaps momentarily “stuck”, Jim, but never idle. “Stuck” is cover for all kinds of effective warfare. I never would have believed it possible had I not observed it time after time since the election of this President.

        Someone posted this wise quote a couple of weeks ago:
        “Beware the fury of a patient man.”

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      • Battleship Wisconsin says:

        One can suspect that Impeachment 2.0 is already in the works for delivery in the late spring to early summer timeframe. However, Barr’s early departure either by resignation or by firing could move the schedule up considerably.

        If another round of impeachment is inevitable before the November 2020 election, then it ought to be triggered by an issue of real substance, the ongoing coup against the duly elected president of the United States.

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  5. Joseph says:

    Excellent analysis!

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  6. Culling the herd of diseased and inbred defective animals doesn’t put the ranch out of business, it is taking care of business that has to be done.

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  7. JohnCasper says:

    Worship of general idols and fetishes (institutions or otherwise) never enlightened nor freed a single human soul and never will.

    Loyalty is a word which has worked vast harm; for it has been made to trick men into being “loyal” to a thousand iniquities, whereas the true loyalty should have been to themselves–in which case there would have ensured a rebellion, and the throwing off of that deceptive yoke.
    – Mark Twain

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  8. graficgod says:

    keep thinking all these career “DOJ” stalwarts will be ‘impartial’ and ‘non-partisan’
    unless we call for Barr’s ouster, no justice will ever be done in regards to the coup.
    They’re literally ALL in on it. exposing one, exposes all.

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  9. TonyE says:

    I have no problem with sending many of these traitors to face the consequences of their actions.

    What’s the point of “protecting” institutions when they are dens of corruption? Burn them down I say. The sooner the better.

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    • The Demon Slick says:

      If Barr wants President Trump to shut up all he has to do is his job. Prosecute the criminals. Nobody gets a pass because they are worried about the institutions. That’s not justice. Justice should be meted out equally to all regardless of position or status or blowback.

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        his job is saving us from OBAMA’s GOAL ! – fundamentally changing us by destroying our institutionss
        NSA – destroyed
        cia destroyed
        DOJ destroyed
        NSC destroyed
        voting destroyed
        borders destroyed
        citizenship destroyed.

        etc..

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  10. Jase says:

    Lawfare/Deep State/Resistance embeds in the White House, via the NSC, had a crack and missed. Having exposed themselves in the impeachment effort, many have been neutralised and any left are hunkering down hoping to ride out the storm.
    Accordingly, the DoJ Lawfare/resistance cell is now stepping up as they switch targets from Trump to Barr. Hopefully Barr gets pissed off enough to start picking off the rogue prosecutors as they step up.
    There is no way for Barr to be neutral on this: it will be him or them.

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    • jnr2d2 says:

      No it will be the country — no longer a constitution democracy we will descend in to anarchy. You can not have such an obvious two tiered justice system, especially as it pertains to sedition on such a vast scale. If left “covered up ” and none of my three scenarios happen, the next stop will be dictatorship controlled by Mammon. Basically the Mafia of the elites.

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  11. Paul Gallant says:

    There is a huge risk of hoping for a righteous republican senate after Nov.

    Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

    Declass…..Burn it down …….

    Trump: Fire Barr then have your list of AG’s that will clean house. Nominate and keep nominating until you get who the American People need. Use your popularity and media skills to embarrass the senate into accepting the right person for the job. Declass…. How many times can the Turtle say no?

    Can you re-nominate someone after the senate rejects them?

    Alexander Hamilton explained that the Senate has no choice about who will serve: “It will be the office of the President to nominate, and, with the advice and consent of the Senate, to appoint. There will, of course, be no exertion of choice on the part of the Senate. They may defeat one choice of the Executive, and oblige him to make another; but they cannot themselves choose — they can only ratify or reject the choice of the President.” (Federalist Papers No. 66)

    John Adams stated this prophetic observation: “We shall very soon have parties formed; a court and country, and those parties will have names given them. One party in the house of representatives will support the president and his measures and ministers; the other will oppose them. A similar party will be in the senate; these parties will study with all their arts, perhaps with intrigue, perhaps with corruption, at every election to increase their own friends and diminish their opposers. Suppose such parties formed in the senate and then consider what factious divisions we shall have there upon every nomination.” (The Founders Constitution, Vol. 4, p. 107)

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    • mr.piddles says:

      “A righteous republican senate”

      Congress as a whole is impotent. You get some laws passed here and there, but, basically, anything goes in D.C. Corrupt DOJ and FBI? We got it! Corrupt IRS? Got that! Corrupt FISA? Check! “Representatives” on the take? Oh, yeeaahhh, baby! etc. etc. etc.

      When D.C. talks about “checks and balances” they’re referring to personal bank accounts.

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        exactly! keep commenting piddles – i enjoy them

        i’m honestly to the point , where i am hoping Trump stats directing and calling for We the People to speak up and how. a 50 state Rally
        video tele conference rally

        where he says we will try and win, and if we do this coup will end forever. and he constantly talks about.
        i have dem friends that say that his china tactic was brilliant , as in it worked. people are seeing his fruits peak above the propaganda yet they still hold on to he is a chavonist or whater it is ( i could care less spelling it right because its BS).

        reach out, be willing to take a hurt feeling. this is very important, we must focus on votes and use the fact finding as ammo

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    • Robert Smith says:

      It may fall to Trump to ask some of his nominees to sacrifice for country. Trump sends candidate after candidate to prove that the Senate will not approve Trump’s choice that they want to choose for him.

      Meanwhile an Acting rips asunder their prized institutions. For instance, the first day the acting comes in – preferably some past career AG in DC so they know the place and can’t be accused of incompetence. They will then declassify and release documents on the Sundance hit list.

      Or, if they have a sense of humor, just take the redactions as highlighting for important information. As each bit is redacted, fire people for cause.

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  12. 4sure says:

    SD, rarely if ever question you. However, in this case, I do.

    What or who does Barr have to fear by Flynn being prosecuted for lying to fbi, and McCabe and Wolfe skating?

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    • Right to reply says:

      WE THE PEOPLE

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    • kleen says:

      Being exposed. His job is to act.
      Somebody said this week that we have a DOJ inside the DOJ. I think Nunes said that.

      Well in that case, Barr is leading the shell DOJ, the fake one. He is acting as if he is seeking justice while covering for the REAL deep sate DOJ with its own set of laws.

      He can’t be exposed, they are almost there. Election is a few months away. They need to run the clock…. we need to think Barr/Durham will expose the crooks

      Dems can easily steal the election with mass fraud. Count on it.

      Bloomberg is buying everyone. If they can drag this a little longer, they win.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      All the cool kids are getting off for lies to the government.

      All the kids not in the in-group get screwed to the wall. Manifestly unfair and everyone (the public) can understand that not matter which side of aisle you’re on. Barr would expose and brand himself as not a friend of fair justice.

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  13. flyboy51v says:

    That explains why Barr was confirmed by the Senate …. in the bag ….

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  14. Linda K. says:

    If Barr does not clean out the corruption and let the sun shine in, the institutions are done for anyway. They will not survive sedition, we all see it and we want justice to act. General Flynn best be exonerated Mr. Barr and you had better arrest these FISA fakers or they will strike again.

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    • calbear84 says:

      If, heaven forbid, comrade Sanders becomes POTUS, he will have in place the perfect Stasi / NKVD apparatus to enforce our nation’s decent into a Venezuelan nightmare. Frankly, I just don’t see any chance of this happening. President Trump will win a second term, and his popularity and success will help take back the House and hold the Senate. THEN we’ll see about justice for the corrupt ones. Obviously it’s hard to be patient, but November 2020 will be here in the blink of an eye!

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  15. Right to reply says:

    I have been here since 2015. I have gotten angry, angrier, been educated, and amused, but one thing does not change. THEY HAVE TO MAKE ARRESTS. THEY HAVE TO CONVICT. If they don’t, there is not a single right thinking person in America who will EVER trust a legal judgment made on another again. It matters not who you are. Political, rich, poor, black, or white. If they can allow this, what can they do to you?

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  16. Kenney says:

    Sundance, Very well said. Barr pulled in the review of the Flynn case to dismiss it and get some distance from it. The fire is getting too hot. Sidney Powell is getting too close.

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  17. TreeClimber says:

    Once upon a time there was a city called North Charleston. North Charleston was basically the slum/ghetto city for the area, and the majority of residents were black (this is relevant). The savvy white mayor and weaselly cowardly white Chief of Police lived in fear of the restless, lawless black ghetto citizens – especially after a run of (verifiably justified) white police-on-black criminal violence, and a couple of counts of (blatantly unjustifiable) white-on-black violence. Around this time, BLM became very active in North Charleston.

    Also around this time, a white family of females of varying ages was forced to move into a ghetto apartment complex due to financial reasons. The management (we’ll call them AMCS) of this complex (we’ll call it Greentree) changed hands shortly after this family moved in. The management got progressively laxer, until after several years they were actively encouraging the prostitution, drug deals, dog fights, and weapons smuggling going on in their complexes – including Greentree and the two beside/adjacent to it.

    The adult in the family of females started fighting back, refusing to participate in the crime and calling the police on it. This ignited a full-blown war, with one family on one side and three complexes’ worth of gangs and thugs on the other – with minors as young as toddlers getting involved, and minors as young as six (already being groomed for gangs) involving themselves. Give a few years, and AMCS themselves arrayed in alignment with the criminal element against the one family fighting for justice and safety.

    Ultimately, the police and the city themselves got caught between the two sides. Lawsuits were brought and dropped. Police were called daily. Physical assaults happened. Ambulances were called, hospital stays were necessitated. Evidence was gathered – and confiscated and rejected on flimsy pretexts. Elsewhere in the sprawling city, crime and unrest were ramping up. BLM agitated. And still the war around Greentree waged. Another lawsuit was brought… a bigger one.

    The leader of the city (we’ll call him Mayor Summey) was caught in a serious quandary. His city was a powder keg, with lit matches scattered everywhere and a police force seriously cowed by the criminals. BLM was agitating on his doorstep, itching for an excuse to oust him (and possibly worse.) And here was this loud, pushy, obnoxious white lady from Greentree, who was always at all the political and city meetings, with whom he was on first-name terms, waving a lit match inches from the powder keg.

    Obviously, real justice would mean putting the brakes on (big donor) AMCS, making them shape up, and a mass prosecution of three complexes’ worth of citizens. As well as the messy logistics of such an action in an otherwise peaceful city, he also would have to deal with the absolute explosion that would result. Or, he could allow it to be arranged to have a few officers bear false testimony, assign to the case a judge who would definitely rule against the white family, and stack the jury, and sweep the whole thing under the rug with some regrettable but quiet collateral damage.

    In the end, Mayor Summey made the wrong choice justly speaking, but he saved his city from the bloodbath that would have resulted had justice not been miscarried. He pulled it all together, soothed BLM mostly back to sleep, the CoP quietly retired and was replaced, and a few reforms were instituted and a few officers shuffled around. The white family paid the price, but again, the loss of a handful of people against destroying an entire city and (possibly quite literally) burning it to the ground… the choice was obvious.

    Mayor Summey has faced two elections since that very trying time for North Charleston. He won both and has now been in power for 25 years. His wife is the head of the judges/courts, his son sits on County Council and is CEO of the local airport, his daughter is also a judge. The Summeys run North Charleston, to destroy the Summeys would destroy the city.

    The last time I saw him, Mayor Summey looked like death warmed over. When I incidentally reminded him of that white family who got sacrificed, he grimaced and turned away. He was not proud of North Charleston’s actions on that case… during that time.

    Bill Barr reminds me of Mayor Summey.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      American Exceptionalism:
      1.A period of time in America, now over, when the rule of law was followed and justice prevailed.
      2. A mythical period of time in American history.
      3. A fairy tale to keep the people sedated.

      “From the perspective of those charged with actual U.S. Justice – there’s no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions themselves survive.”

      I don’t want to burn down the institutions, only those who run them. What are we so scared of?

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    • Robert Smith says:

      That felt like it was told from the trenches.

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      • TreeClimber says:

        That war has passed. The white family lost – and possibly many more I don’t know about – but they survived. They’re all doing more or less okay now.

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  18. Skidroe says:

    Burr is retiring and Feinstein left her position so who is he really protecting, Warner? Is Warner worth the entire USA? I don’t think so. Nail his ass to the wall and let’s get on with it.

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  19. aProvicer says:

    This is all complete bullshit. Barr has to cover for Rosenstein? Come on. Let’s have a constitutional crisis and get rid of 90% of the leeches in DC.

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  20. Brutalus says:

    Yeah, I’m sure old Barr is less concerned about the institutions than the people at the top of them who are going to turn his lights out if he does anything about them…quite a quandary for the old Chessire Cat here….expose the sedition to the American people and save the Republic or cover it up and “save” the Republic….one would bring him danger and glory…the other, scorn and safety….I guess we’ll find out what kind of cat he is or whether he’ll be able to just into “disappear” into the swamp

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Well Barr parachuted his Fat-Ass into this situation so he had better man-up.

      Because you know what – both side will chew him up and spit him out. I’m pretty sure Trump won’t hold grudges as long as Barr does what needs to be done. The other side is a pit of vipers, Hillary will Death Squad all of them to close things out.

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  21. mortgagesforthemasses says:

    ” From the perspective of those charged with actual U.S. Justice – there’s no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions themselves survive. So what we are witnessing is a dance between increasingly narrowing rails and the DOJ trying to find an exit.”

    I really don’t give a damn about their perspective. The institutions, which should not be confused with the people currently employed in the institutions, will only survive if the people see the corruption cleaned up and the seditious criminals thrown in prison. To let the institutional rot fester indefinitely would be the worst course of action.

    Expose and prosecute the whole rotten cabal. Anything less ensures a repeat in the future. Let the American people see how their government, and elected officials, have betrayed them. Make them understand that its really is time to throw all the bums out!

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  22. Jimmy R says:

    Sundance seems to be saying that Barr is acting on the basic premise that the institutions will survive if and only if they are not lanced, drained, and cleaned out by bringing all the seditionists and kleptocrats to justice. This seems not to be a premise so much as a story Barr is telling himself to cover for his own cowardice. In fact the opposite of the premise is true, namely that the institutions will survive if and only if they are lanced, drained, and cleaned out with antiseptic.

    If in fact Barr is telling himself such a lie, then it is no wonder he seems to act so cavalier and confident. He has already decided to take a path that will not involve cataclysmic disruption or require any courage on his part.

    What if Durham isn’t so cowardly and brings indictments of all of the criminals? How can Barr be expected to react?

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Durham has in the past caused discomfit to the government with relation to exposing prosecutorial misconduct, even though he has been chosen as their instrument.

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  23. mimbler says:

    I just don’t see the theory that Barr can’t react against the coup because it is too big for the American people to handle.

    After all, we’ve just gone a couple of years of PDJT accused of colluding with Russia to rig an election. Followed by an actual impeachment for colluding with Ukraine to throw an election!

    But the American people couldn’t handle the prosecution of some gs14 and gs15 bureaucrats?

    So what if it implicates people up to Obama. We just went through three years of accusing everyone up to and including PDJT!

    IMO, this is bogus.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      Agree. Bogus.

      And if it is true, we’re not worth saving anyway.

      Win/win. Bring on the indictments!

      P.S. Maybe Trump should ask the American people what they think? Should we sweep our national disgrace/dirt/embarrassment under the rug like cowards or face the tough task of accepting our extreme corruption and doing something about it?

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      • Now that is a very good idea IGiveUp.

        Ask the voters if they can or can not handle the tough task of prosecuting some government employees, whose salaries we pay.

        Are we or are we not adult enough to stop these pigs from gorging at the public trough and breaking all kinds of laws while they stick it to us.

        Pres Trump could send one of his famous tweets out.

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    • Payday says:

      ^THIS^

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      • zorrorides says:

        “Ask The People, Mr Trump.”

        You will be going to ‘several’ rallies between now and November. Ask the People to study this problem and get back to you with their recommendations. Be sure to get their zipcodes.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      I agree!

      These past years when seemingly no corporate heads or government functionaries EVER get prosecuted… well the American public knows that we’re the ones getting screwed.

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  24. Retired IG says:

    Refresher course for President Trump and Atty. General Bill Barr:
    The Art of War
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2014/05/23/sun-tzus-33-best-pieces-of-leadership-advice/#51f76df5e5ef

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  25. candyman says:

    Bill Barr’s legacy will be synonymous with Benedict Arnold. Way to go bagpipes, it was your call.

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    • Jimmy R says:

      Yes, if Barr is the cleanup man and covers all of this up, then he will be the ultimate villain of this whole period. Same for Durham.

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      • candyman says:

        “I coulda’ had class. I coulda’ been a contender. I could’ve been somebody”, laments Terry to his brother, “Instead of a bum, which is what I am – let’s face it.”

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      • Tl Howard says:

        He could achieve a cover-up pre-internet. Can’t now. Too many books have been written. Too much from a blog such as this. More books will be written with even more info.

        If he covers up, Barr will be history’s villain, not the perpetrators of the coup.

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  26. Sherri Young says:

    Thread from a long-time federal prosecutor on the possibility of Flynn getting a new trial. Walks through his reasoning. (Spoiler: probably yes.)

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    • Sherri Young says:

      Arrgh! I meant Stone, not Flynn.

      (Stupid Benadryl.)

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    • Revelation says:

      What would be far more significant would be the bent Obama judge getting fired for her atrocious behaviour during the Stone trial.

      Its not bad enough that the FBI lie and the prosecutors are corrupt, but the judge is bent on top?

      I’m sorry this is shooting your way out territory.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      I like that. But, as we have seen over and over and over again during the Trump Era, laws and common sense are ignored. Because who is going to stop the system if the system is thoroughly corrupt?

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  27. PS says:

    If this allegation is true, then we are trapped in a “you can’t handle the truth” moment. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the head (s) of the FBI, the CIA, numerous Senators, the DOJ, maybe even up to President Obama, conspired to remove President Trump after the election.

    They went all in, and the argument now is, “they are too big to jail”.

    And the response is do nothing? hide the problem? We have a Stage 3 cancer in our government. You do nothing, it metastasizes , we are at Stage 4 inoperable and the Republic dies. We see it growing every day, with every impeachment sham. it was a good run, those 240 years.

    No, you laser out the growths, you hit the system with poison called Chemo, and you hope for the best. You give it a fighting shot and let the system recover. It may be a long recovery. We will have to admit a lot of government is not acting in the public good. That it spies on its citizens, enriches it’s politicians, lies about charities, about foreign aid, foreign wars, pretty much everything. But we have to start telling the truth!

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    • Jase says:

      Correct. Barr is so busy in his foxhole defending the village from attack up the main road, he hasn’t realised the enemy occupied the village hours ago and has just about finished rounding up the civilians and lining them been busy lining the up against back wall of the church.
      Either that, or he is desperately defending a Potemkin village.

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    • sundance says:

      PS. They already made the decision to “hide the problem” with the Wolfe case.

      That’s the issue.

      The Wolfe case was the moment to make the decision…. everything after that is an exhibition of the reasons why they made that decision.

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      • GB Bari says:

        So you’re saying that Wolfe is the key block in the Jenga Tower.
        It cannot stand without him being left untouched and in place.

        I had not realized his was the pivotal case of this entire coverup.

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      • Linda K. says:

        Well, they are going to have to change their mind. No one in Justice thought Jessie Lui would see the exit.

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        • I agree Linda.

          Tough, they are going to have to change their minds.

          So now every thing after the Wolfe decision is an exhibition of reasons to us as to why they made that decision then they will soon see that we are not buying what they are trying to “exhibit”.

          We are not happy, not happy at all with what is going on in the DOJ and their two tiered system of justice.

          This is why, even though we did not know it at the time, we elected Donald Trump.

          I knew things were bad in DC but I had no idea as to how bad.

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      • owtolunch says:

        The decision was corrupt!

        Now they are complicit and active participants.

        Bankrupt and just hoping they can pull it off..while limiting damage… All it takes is the boy who cried wolf to use an RPG or a Stinger… There will be a mass casualty event within the “institutions” as they are not coordinated. An Unidentified Unknown risk to their cover-up… The MORT Chart does not lie. There is no way they have addressed all the failure modes and effects.

        It can’t stay hidden. None of these folks has the guts or smarts to withstand the scrutiny. It will be an epic battle.

        Just like the over-pressured radioactive drum at WIPP…Someone typed the word organic instead of inorganic in a packing procedure and the wrong type of cat litter was put in the drum to soak up liquids. A reaction occurred and the chain of events was not stoppable. Radioactive waste sent all over the underground tunnels – the ventilation was never upgraded to handle the risk and radiation leaked out… The only option was — SHUT IT ALL DOWN- STAND BACK AND BUILD A RECOVERY PLAN…It took years and millions… IT IS THE ONLY CHOICE… There will be a tremendous number of losers but life will go on… We have seen high consequence events play out in NASA repeatedly (shuttle program scrapped) , the DOE – at Los Alamos and Sandia, (contractors dumped) — the SAC and Missile Defense program – stoned nuclear missile operators..(fired most of the command). Any of these high consequence situations could have brought us to crisis…

        This time it is politically driven and not a technical oversight —

        It was done on purpose – selling fear of “loss of institutions” is another cover-up tactic to avoid responsibility and accountability.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        Have they already made the decision for the Carter Page FISA warrants? Protect all of the signers too from prosecution.. If so, then what type of government do we have a Kleptocracy?

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  28. bullnuke says:

    The institutions are the results of grand ideas by good men. They will survive if the rot is exposed and removed. Over 100 years of living outside the concepts of the constitution is what caused this mess.

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  29. MD says:

    All the rot in our government is known to the American people. Pretending it is not there by not pulling back the curtain and exposing it will lead to the downfall of not only those institutions but our entire system of government. There is a reason we see socialist / communist candidates running and gaining support. They have been engineering it toward this for decades a bit at a time. If you would have said to me during the Reagan presidency that one of the two candidates for president in 2020 would be a communist I would think you were nuts. This stuff all needs to be fully exposed and people held accountable PERIOD!

    If this is not done it will make no difference what Donald Trump accomplishes in his time as president. As soon as he is out of office the swamp will start the process of reversing it. Only this time once they screw it up they will make sure it is permanent and can’t be fixed. These people don’t think they are sent to Washington to represent us. They think they are there to rule over us.

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  30. golfmann says:

    I guess I don’t understand your premise that exposure and a few hangings would destroy the institutions,,,
    In my opinion it would make them stronger!
    So what are you saying, this ALL has to be swept under the rug so the good old boys can continue?
    BULLSHIT!

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  31. Conundrum says:

    This is utterly ridiculous. The institution is nothing, it is the rule of law that is sacrosanct. The DOJ must operate under it. If the rule of law survives, the DOJ can be saved. If the rule of law dies, it all dies.

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    • Jimmy R says:

      It is indeed ridiculous, like a young person refusing chemotherapy, on the grounds that it will make him violently ill for a little while, and preferring to die of cancer.

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  32. Skidroe says:

    Do you really think Barr is going to shut up PRESIDENT TRUMP? I don’t. Unless? I don’t see Trump letting up especially once he is re-elected.

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  33. Peoria Jones says:

    I don’t understand this. I get that the coupists feel confidant that Barr will not expose them, but there is a huge risk nonetheless. Furthermore, they have already exposed themselves to a great many of us, and everybody in D.C. knows exactly what happened.

    Would it not have been more clever (and safe) for them to take down General Flynn without the added fanfare of the absurd sentencing, and subsequent attorneys walking away?

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    • sundance says:

      You need to re-read the embedded links.

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      • Peoria Jones says:

        I did read them when you first posted them. It’s a bit late in the day for me, and perhaps I’m just not remembering the key.

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        • zorrorides says:

          Peoria, Sundance knew you had read the links. Kind of a compliment, hmm?

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        • I sympathize Peoria Jones.

          I read and re-read sundances articles including all of the links.

          A lot of the times I still fell like I do not quite grasp the point, my fault not his.

          Maybe a fresh re-read tomorrow will clear things up for me.

          Sundance always does an excellent job writing about complex situations.

          Sometimes it just takes me a while.

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          • Peoria Jones says:

            Yes, this is tough stuff to follow and digest – and time-consuming, too. Recalling all the details is beyond my capability. (Heck, I’m one of those who relies on a list when I go to the grocery store, ha!)

            In all the years I’ve followed SD, I’ve rarely disagreed with his opinion or theories. I’ve never doubted his facts! Occasionally something just doesn’t “register” for me, and I do try to get it.

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      • MD says:

        Another thing that makes your point that Barr is protecting the swamp is that he’s OK with the premise that Epstein committed suicide and the case has faded away.

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      • Peoria Jones says:

        Oops – I think I see the problem! I should have added “Stone’s” absurd sentencing and the DOJ attorneys making a show. I could have clarified that better, but assumed it was understood. (And we know what they say about ASSuming…)

        My point was that it seems the President’s tweet comparing Stone’s case to Wolfe’s, is what set Barr off publicly. I believe it was a step too far, on the part of the coup.

        The coup’s persecution of Flynn could have been better swept away, without the added attention of Stone vs. Wolfe. But the DOJ rogues had to push it to ridiculous levels, PTrump had to point this out, and now Barr has to deal with it.

        (Just my take, but I hope you see my point.)

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  34. Disagree with the no option to prosecute decision. If the institutions crumble, they deserved to crumble. We are certainally capable of rebuilding. So are we now destined to live with criminality in the doj/ fbi? I agree with the gentleman above who brought out the fact of the 63 million voters who are being castrated by the current state of affairs. If the deep state is not fully attacked within the next six months, the republic is over. Dictatorship from hidden crannies can no longer be tolerated.

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  35. Phil says:

    Yes. Exactly. Barr is unwilling to risk Arkancide by charging anyone because they might roll over and give up a bigger name, and on it goes until he is forced to charge sitting senators like Warner, congressmen like Schiff, and former high ranking Obama administration officials, potentially leading to Hillary Clinton and Obama.

    I fear that the best we can hope for is a more powerful post-election Trump forcing a truth commission, where everything is brought into the open, with full testimony by all parties under immunity if they tell the truth. I think Trump knows this already, as his public statements about McCabe, for instance, would make it difficult to prosecute him in court.

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  36. bullnuke says:

    I think President Trump can smell the fear coming from Bagpipe Bob. I wish he would tweet this brilliant article to the world.

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  37. Sherri Young says:

    Here’s a thread from the same as above former federal prosecutor on his thoughts about the decision not to prosecute Andy McCabe on the charges presented. I look forward to his potentially upcoming thread on Flynn.

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  38. Tl Howard says:

    Sundance, just when did you come to the acceptance, the rather understanding acceptance, it sounds like, of Barr’s conundrum?

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    • sundance says:

      July 2018. Six months before Barr was hired.

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      • Tl Howard says:

        So, you always knew it would proceed this way.
        Tell us: how will “it” end? Will Americans be made aware of the coup? Will they have the basic plot laid out before them, names and faces?

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        • Phil-abuster says:

          If Trump wins, and we retake the house, then it’ll all come out. I’m not saying anyone will go to jail, but it will all come out. The subsequent anger will hopefully allow us to make the case the this is the inevitable result of big government, no matter which party is in charge, and that the only solution is the dismantling to the federal bureaucracy.

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  39. Merkin Muffley says:

    If James Wolfe could not be prosecuted without running the risk of collapsing key institutions of the U.S. government, then key institutions of the US government are hopelessly corrupt.

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  40. Moe Grimm says:

    Sundance. Love you brother, but maybe you could slow it down a notch, maybe even two? Your journalistic acuity is at this point trouncing my limited mental ability to keep up. Anyway, keep on it brother. The subjects you treat here will be Sean Rank ‘n File Hannity’s “major breaking news” in about 6 months – if at all. Nice if you, Tuck, Dobbie, and Bannon could team up for Mon.-Fri. 60 min. prime time slots like Bannon did with Miller and Kassam for Newsmax War Room throughout the psychotic ‘peachmint run. Hell, I can hear the mslsdcnnabccbsnbc cult marx brigade shrieking way out here in the South Plains already.

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  41. jx says:

    If it’s too big for Barr then he needs to resign. NOW.

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      I believe Barr inserted himself with a purpose and not a good one. Was it not he that wrote an oped well before he was even appointed AG/ My question to Barr is, if he knew he would do sweet f… all about it, why bother to take on the position? Hmmm corrupt he is in my eyes, thought he would say some words like “spying did occur ” so that he would look like the right guy for the job. Mr. Bagpipes you should have stayed where you were, and stfu unless you intent was never to do the job right for the American people that were looking up to you to be the Law and Order guy. Full of govna you are like the rest that are corrupt and we smell those govnari all outside the USA. God Bless PDJT.

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  42. MGBSE says:

    That picture is disgusting and why Sessions must be defeated in the upcoming election…he will be another McCain and Pierre.

    DEFEAT SESSIONS ALABAMA!!!

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  43. J says:

    Maybe we should fire up the torches and sharpen the pitch forks. Declassify. Let it all burn down.

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  44. Jorizabeth says:

    If this reality is known by so many and the main culprits refuse to take personal responsibility and, as a result, become the sacraficial lambs, of course the unthinkable can occur. What’s missing is someone to impress on these yahoos who, without an ounce of regret and refusing to tell the truth on their own, are the main players. Never in their nightmares have they considered sacraficing themselves for the country! Now, there’s the real tragedy! We need self sacrafice here. We are not as civilized as we think we are!

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  45. Bogeyfree says:

    Sundance,

    Now that you showed us the prickle, I mean the pickle.

    What is the one or two things PT could do to EXPOSE the prickle, I mean the pickle to the American people and thus this massive hypocrisy and coverup?

    I can almost hear the chant at PT rally………

    EXPOSE THE PRICKLE!

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    • sundance says:

      Trump could tweet “Where’s James Wolfe”?

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      • James Anthony Wolfe is in Silver Spring, Maryland, where he’s a Vice President at a Security Outlet, which deals in Badges, ID Cases, Body Armor, Gun Locks, Mace and other Police Supplies. His second wife, Jane Rhodes-Wolfe, moved with him and they reside in Ellicott City, Maryland.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      I think that is why at various times the call has come for the declassification of key documents.

      Why?

      It does not depend on further actions of weak people. It is immune to spinning. Once they’re out in the public the DeepState and their lawless actions and lies are exposed. In one sense their resistance will have the legs cur out from under them.

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  46. Putting On Its Shoes says:

    Sundance,

    Remind us all the places Bromwich is involved.

    I can remember the following:

    DOJ during coup
    Kavanaugh hearing for Ford
    McCabe’s attorney for lying about leaking
    Ukraine impeachment?
    Others?

    He’s an evil mother fuk her and an angry elf (classic reference)

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  47. rayvandune says:

    Trump needs to set the next election to be about answering the very questions we are arguing here. The American people must first be informed, and then must be asked by the President for their blessing in destroying the criminal enterprise that has seized control of the government. If we ask him to wield the terrible swift sword of justice, he will need us to close ranks behind him in the millions.

    We are enduring the greatest scandal in American history, and we must now prepare to wage the greatest battle in American history to end it! We have the right leader at the right time and place, and if we fail now, we will never recover our birthright.

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    • zorrorides says:

      Ray, may I tack on a thought I posted up higher on this page?

      Willy, I thing this metaphor stands more for Washington found living in the colonies in the circumstances of the 1770s. First he led the thinkers and common people into the reasons why liberty was right for us. Then GW led them into acceptance of war to be free, if it came to that. Then GW became both General and First Citizen, and came the war in America.

      GW lost and mostly lost until he won complete victory, and it was terrible to get there.

      Our Trump is still in leading us into the reasons why we should have liberty. He is not at the position of Washington as President.

      You’re right about what GW would do to seditious coupists, and all his nation would be glad he did it.

      Our President Trump still needs his Yorktown, and I believe it’s coming.

      You got me to thinking and thanks.

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      • zorrorides says:

        Please may I do it again? Last one. Promise,
        IGiveUp says:
        February 15, 2020 at 10:26 pm
        Agree. Bogus.

        And if it is true, we’re not worth saving anyway.

        Win/win. Bring on the indictments!

        P.S. Maybe Trump should ask the American people what they think? Should we sweep our national disgrace/dirt/embarrassment under the rug like cowards or face the tough task of accepting our extreme corruption and doing something about it?

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        Payday says:
        February 15, 2020 at 10:26 pm
        ^THIS^

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        zorrorides says:
        February 15, 2020 at 11:49 pm
        “Ask The People, Mr Trump.”

        You will be going to ‘several’ rallies between now and November. Ask the People to study this problem and get back to you with their recommendations. Be sure to get their zipcodes.

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  48. JohnCasper says:

    So here we are. Of the institutions, by the institutions and for the institutions. All Sieg Heil the Institutions!

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  49. Streak 264 says:

    These are not ordinary crimes and should be out of the jurisdiction of the DOJ/FBI since both were involved.
    This should be handed over to the military for tribunals. The military would be neutral.
    Or Pres.Trump could ask other countries to prosecute our criminals because in most cases these things involve other countries. Pres. Trump could promise quick extradition to the charging country.

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  50. ezgoer says:

    So if Sundance is correct here the Durham investigation is already predetermined. For all the same reasons Durham will come back and announce his investigation uncovered no criminality and the entire matter is closed. A total cover-up of the attempted coup and the conspiracy behind it. BINGO.

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