Ron and Chuck Go Fishing – Johnson and Grassley Want AG Bill Barr To Declassify IG Footnotes…

Senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley are on a fishing expedition to unearth the origination of conflicts within the IG report on FISA abuse. However, a word of caution, they could be on a snipe hunt and here’s why.

First, their letter. Grassley has a history within this story. Grassley has been lied to by the FBI about their use of dossier author Christopher Steele. Two years ago Grassley/Graham called out the FBI lies by sending the DOJ a criminal referral for Chris Steele.  Not surprisingly the referral went no-where and was summarily ignored by the DOJ.

Now, Grassley/Johnson want four IG footnotes declassified by Bill Barr.

(pdf link)

Grassley and Johnson are noting contradictions within the IG report.  If they are looking to reconcile contradictions, save yourself some research and read an article by Margot Cleveland SEE HERE which seems to be the north-star Chuck and Ron are following.

People are starting to question the assembly of the IG report because the underlying explanations by the FBI officials within it are fraught with a lack of candor.

Many of the officials who gave explanations to the inspector generals’ office are the same FBI officials who participated in the scheme to target Donald Trump, president-elect Trump, and President Trump.   As a consequence the FBI contradictions stem from sketchy FBI surveillance explanations that do not match the documented FBI activity.

There is also some speculation the footnotes are related to the part of the IG report surrounding Chris Steele’s primary sub-source (PSS).  I doubt that intent because everyone in/around the PSS issue is lying in an effort to justify its use. [Including current FBI officials who are cited (sans specific names) within the IG report.]

To make issues easier for those who want to look for themselves here’s the page numbers of redacted footnotes. 17, 21, 61*, 63*, 164, 166, 205, 208*, 210*, 211*, 214, 242, 244*, 265*, 276, 293*, 296, 301, 302, 328, 334* and 339* (Primary Sub Source info), 342*, 347*, 350*, 354, 362*, 368, 372*, 377, 379, 389, 464*, 475, 484, 526*.

If the contradiction expedition includes Chuck and Ron attempting to reconcile why the FBI would use Chris Steele and a manufactured dossier, without verification, to gain a FISA warrant in April and June 2017, which the DOJ now asserts ‘invalid’, they are likely to come up empty.

The Steele Dossier and the fraudulent claims therein; including why the DOJ used the Dossier in April and June 2017 – after they found out it was full of lies; lead you to this question (suggest don’t skip the go deep link):

If the FBI investigated the Dossier in January and March, 2017, concluding (per the OIG report) the information therein was unreliable, then why was DAG Rosenstein authorizing Mueller to investigate it?


The answer is simple yet frustrating.  The FBI renewed the application because the FISA was the key for the insurance policy phase.  Mueller never investigated the dossier claims; everyone knew the dossier was a means to an end.

After being appointed on May 17, 2017, Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller wanted the FISA renewed (June 29th, 2017).   So it was.

The key to understanding the FISA assembly in 2016 is this:

•Without the Dossier, no FISA.

•Without FISA, no insurance policy.

•Without Dossier & FISA, no Mueller.  {GO DEEP}

The Steele Dossier was absolutely vital because the paramount need was the FISA.

Here’s the critical timeline, components and sequence:

  • August 2016 – The FBI was denied a FISA warrant internally.  The DOJ-NSD told the FBI they did not have enough evidence.
  • August 2016 – On August 25th, 2016, in Andrew McCabe’s office, Lisa Page and Peter Strzok have the “insurance policy” discussion.
  • Sept. 2016 – The FBI then asks Oleg Deripaska for help.
  • Sept. 2016 – Christopher Steele, sends more chapters of the Dossier.
  • Oct. 2016 –  The Steele Dossier is added to FISA application
  • Oct. 2016 –  The FISA application is approved.

The need was the FISA surveillance warrant.  The key ingredient for that warrant was the Steele Dossier.  {GO DEEP}  Without the dossier they don’t get the FISA warrant.

Christopher Steele completely made up the key points within the dossier, yet he sprinkled in information he was given by Fusion-GPS contracted agent Nellie Ohr.

(Source is the House Impeachment Witness List, Nellie Ohr)

The Nellie Ohr research material was the stuff that primarily checked out.  Her material was more innocuous and incidental. Nellie gave contact information with dates and citations that could be validated by open-source materials.  Nellie Ohr provided material that would be woven into the completely false story that Chris Steele created.

Nellie used innocuous contacts like Sergei Millian, nationality Belarus, with real estate dealings in Trump orbit; or Emin Agalarov, whose father was a business contact who coordinated bringing the Miss Universe pageant to Russia in 2013; to provide fuel for the narrative.  All of which was easily verifiable.

However, the essential Christopher Steele material was entirely fabricated.

Steele’s material was the specific and accusatory information.  The really explosive stuff claiming Donald Trump and those in his orbit were connected to a Russian collusion conspiracy.  Alfa Bank, payments and contacts, hidden trips, secret agreements, etc.

In making up the story Christopher Steele needed to assign a plausible citation for those outlandish lies.  He used a very specific citation for a primary sub-source. A person who would seem to be deeply connected and credible; and factually did have a relationship with Chris Steele.  However, as the IG report identifies, the primary sub-source had no idea that Steele was attributing any of his make-believe stories to him.

As the big picture timeline shows, Andrew McCabe knew the Steele Dossier was nonsense; but the insurance policy aspect; the secret surveillance of Trump if he won the election – & the ability of a special counsel to use it; were contingent upon getting that FISA warrant.

When Lisa Page explains (testimony transcript) the insurance policy was connected to the “use of a source”, and/or possibly “exposing them”, she’s not really lying.  The Dossier was dependent on Steele’s exploitation of a former FBI source as a primary sub-source to manufacture the dossier that would get them the FISA.

A former FBI Source who the Robert Mueller FBI turned to in 2009.  An FBI source that Andrew McCabe and Bruce Ohr had both worked with before.  That former FBI source was the same person McCabe asked for help in September 2016, Oleg Deripaska.

Oleg Deripaska had no idea Chris Steele was going to attribute anything from any conversation they had to create his dossier; but Andrew McCabe did.

Deripaska is just generally talking to Chris Steele, whom Deripaska hired in 2016 as an attorney in the U.K. to represent his interests, not knowing that Steele would use anything Oleg said about Donald Trump in Steele’s fantastical story.

Remember the “pee tapes and Moscow hookers”?

Who else mentioned “pee tapes and Moscow hookers”?   Anastasia Vashukevich.  The 27-year-old  Belarusian woman who was being held in a prison in Thailand under charges of recruiting women to act as prostitutes and escorts.  She was a “friend” of Oleg:

It’s likely Anastasia Vashukevich (pictured above with Deripaska) heard Oleg tell the same crazy story, based on Russia rumors about Donald Trump, that Oleg told Chris Steele.  Heck, CNN even went to Thailand in March 2018 to interview Ms. Anastasia in the hopes she had hard evidence.

As Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified, Chris Steele’s dossier was a fabrication with the only exceptions being innocuous dates, times and events that were just regular Trump organization business contacts that happened to be Russian.  The conspiracy elements were entirely manufactured by Steele.

Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe knew this, all of this, as it was being put together.  Hence the August 2016 “insurance policy” as a discussion in his office.

The top FBI agents and lawyers who were assigned to Crossfire Hurricane (2016), then the Mueller probe (2017), knew the issues with the dossier provenance all along. Apparently the ends -attainment of the surveillance FISA- justified the means.  The FBI direct knowledge is why this is so easy to answer:

If the FBI investigated the Dossier in January and March, 2017, concluding (per the OIG report) the information therein was unreliable, then why was DAG Rosenstein authorizing Mueller to investigate it?

Answer: Because the special counsel asked.

The FBI knew the dossier was sketchy.  The FBI explanations to the inspector general in 2018 and 2019 are merely ass-covering justifications.  They are being made after-the-fact, by the same crew who originated the dossier use.

The insurance policy FBI is answering the 2019 IG question(s) ex-post-facto.  Sure the Washington Field Office is going to say: despite Steele keeping his source a secret they “figured out” he was using “primary sub source Oleg” and then attempted to “verify” the content of the dossier…. blah, blah, blah… Sure. And McCabe simply lacked candor.

The same FBI agents giving the investigative answers to the IG in 2019 are the same FBI agents who used the surveillance warrant in 2016 and 2017 knowing it was nonsense.

There’s buckets of current FBI field agents, supervisory special agents, FBI lawyers, officials and various FBI field offices maintaining this years-long fraud.  Heck, the Mueller report said there were 40 rank-and-file FBI agents working with them; and a host of administrative and FBI legal support officials during the two-year investigation.

How many of the FBI people working with Mueller can plausibly claim they didn’t know the two-year investigation was based on Russia-conspiracy fabrications, Russia-interference manipulations, and Russia, Russia, Russia lies?

So it’s not a surprise the IG report is subject to stealth edits and major contradictions; the FISA Court is now in a confidence crisis; meanwhile current FBI Director Christopher Wray does nothing, and AG Bill Barr calls him an “exceptional” leader.

Wait, don’t tell me…. Trust the plan?

Think about it…

Is it any wonder Oleg Deripaska, speaking through his U.S. lawyer Adam Waldman, felt used in 2017 after the FBI, DOJ, Treasury Dept. and intelligence apparatus locked him out of the USA and started seizing his assets:

Adam Waldman was the lawyer for both Christopher Steele and Oleg Deripaska.  Additionally, Waldman was the liaison Senator Mark Warner (Senate Intelligence Committee Vice-Chairman) was using to try and set-up a secret meeting with Christopher Steele.

As you can see from the text messages (below) the 2017 House Intelligence Committee (Nunes) wanted to interview Deripaska. However, based on their ongoing contact and relationship, Deripaska’s lawyer Adam Waldman, asks Senator Mark Warner for feedback:


Deripaska was blocked from testifying to congress. It was obviously not from the 2017 HPSCI (Chairman Devin Nunes) but rather by the Senate Intel Committee, Mark Warner.


It’s highly likely the 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 FBI would be risk averse to former FBI source Oleg Deripaska’s uncontrolled testimony. WATCH:


So the administrative state, covering for their own asses, kicked former FBI source Oleg Deripaska out of the country, blocked any VISA entry effort, and froze all his assets.

Go figure.

Quick congress, write more letters.

Meanwhile the impeachment trial of President Trump continues…

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295 Responses to Ron and Chuck Go Fishing – Johnson and Grassley Want AG Bill Barr To Declassify IG Footnotes…

  1. The Big Question: is Barr for real or is he a double-agent?

    He’s been in for 11 months. I don’t care if he said nice things, he flipped Rodentstain, used him, and got rid of him. He shut down the Mueller Fraud and got rid of him and Weissman. He set up the Durham Probe and challenged some of the hinky IG Horowitz claims. Then he’s had to deal with the Ukraine Fraud and the Impeachment Fraud. Did you really expect to see indictments while the President is on trial in the Senate?

    Not to mention that half the government is in mutiny and Barr’s own department is still loaded with decades of seditionists. If he says nice things about the hack Wray, that doesn’t worry me. He’s got to play the hand he was dealt. I think he’s on track but we’ll see if they charge the night janitor and call it a day or if they really address the Coup Syndicate. We’ll know soon enough.

    “We’ll see what happens.”

    Liked by 16 people

    • Bogeyfree says:

      Ask yourself if you are over the DOJ AND FBI:

      Do you allow your prosecutors who originally recommended probation for Gen Flynn to now go back and recommend incarceration? Who does that?

      If you even suspect that exculpatory evidence was withheld, don’t you do whatever it takes to find out if that was true or not even if it might embarrass the Dept? Who allows that, if Sidney was right?

      Do you continue to give incredible praise when it is fairly obvious IMO that your Director IMO disregards seeing the truth about FBI officials and where his opinion is simply we need more training and policy enhancements? Who does that?

      Do you not immediately reach out to Jullian Assange, a first hand witness regarding how Wikileaks got the DNC emails if the hasn’t been done? Who would ignore that if that is the case?

      IMO there are enough of these examples that tells me it might be time for a change.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Justin Green says:

      Zero indictments.

      Nice speeches don’t count. He’s not head of the Department of Nice Speeches.

      Liked by 12 people

      • mopar2016 says:

        I left a message on Ron Johnson’s machine last night.
        I asked him why is Mitch letting Schumer run things in the senate, and why is the senate poised to take up the work that should’ve been done in the house?
        I’ve met Johnson a couple of times in Antigo at his meet and greets.
        I just wanted him to know that we’re paying attention.

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      • BebeTarget / abdb61 says:

        Why bother with indictments? How can anyone be found guilty in a D.C., VA or Maryland court? The jurors would be Democrats and even if their noses were rubbed in the truth, they will never convict anyone who did anything against our President. We have to accept the fact that there will be no indictments because there is a zero chance that any justice can be found in those courts.

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    • Issy says:

      I’m still on the fence and I understand the hand he has. I also see Trump saying nice things about people you know he despises. That’s politics. I wonder though if Barr understands the deep anger people feel toward the doj/fbi? Many will refuse to accept their excuses, mistakes and even apologies without full disclosure.

      I have always known Barr’s main job was to preserve the institutions and try to restore some integrity, but until people see that justice is the same for everyone in these corrupt agencies, it’s not going to work very well.

      Liked by 5 people

      • YeahYouRight says:

        The only way out is through. Barr can’t be afraid to get some Big Ugly on his suit. These institutions cannot and will not be preserved in the eyes of We The People unless people go to jail. I believe Barr knows this.

        Liked by 3 people

    • inspectorudy says:

      I hate to bring this up but old J. Edgar jumps to mind. Wray is about as bad an FBI director as Comey and yet Trump has not fired him and will not EVEN bad mouth him. Even Barr has said nice things about him. What does that suggest? 8×10 glossies of some people doing bad things. There can be no other explanation unless there is an explosive expose coming that no one can breathe a word about. I lean towards the glossies. God, I hope and pray that I am wrong! Sharyl Attkisson story is another example of the deep state refusing to comply with court directives and hiding evidence of wrongdoing by their people. Grassley cannot get the documents he wants. The FBI is hiding an agent in CA mixed up in the Russian hoax. Nunes cannot get the redactions undone because of Wray. Can this all be the work of Wray? I don’t buy that argument.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Rosenstein gave Muller Team investigative powers that they were not entitled to. In the Muller report they said they did not investigate public information and since the dossier was public, no need to investigate! Same with the Trump Tower meeting.

      Paths that would lead to exculpatory were avoided.

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    • arsumbris says:

      The real question is whether Trump is in control of Barr, or Barr is in control of Trump. If Trump is constantly betrayed by everyone he hires, then there’s nothing he can do as president. The Coup has succeeded, and we need a different recourse.

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    • andy says:

      Barr was approving pardons of the iran contra gang right after Stefan Halper got caught running the bank exporting cash from USA to the contras.
      Buddy… this coverup is a done deal except for the history books. 😀

      Liked by 1 person

    • rondonmonson says:

      Bongino says he got reports today {Yesterday} that the redaction’s have to do with the Whistle Blowers sorry ass, hence the need for redaction by the DC Beltway thought process, even Justice Roberts felt the need to hinder Rand Paul from saying his name yesterday in the Senate, and that’s odd seeing as how Roberts should know the law doesn’t protect him from identity.

      Anyway, Bongino seems to think it points toward this punk MAKING UP previous allegations to try and kick of the Russia Investigation, I forgot exactly what it was, but trust me, he said his secret guys in the know are telling him that Johnson and Grassley are trying to get it redacted. You see if he made up BS out of whole cloth on the President already one time, that UNDERCUTS his here in this trial, that is why the two Senators are on that hot lead now, the Trial is on-going of course That would pretty much clinch the case of the Whistle Blower was proven to have made up some of the Russia BS.

      Episode 1169 really needs to be listened to.


  2. Arrest Soros says:

    No better than a 3rd world banana republic.
    Light on the hill my ass. Just another corrupt republic with a big military.
    Shameful and sad.

    Liked by 2 people

  3. islandpalmtrees says:

    Numbers and words. It’s not hard to see what they want you to focus on. And, what they don’t want you to look at.

    Strzok, I believe is the Intel Section Chief, yet the report lets the reader believe they are different people. Try substituting Strzok for “Intel Section Chief” and watch the double talk roll, if I am right?

    word used: reliable 49 times
    word used: Intel Section Chief 48 times
    word used: strzok 273 times
    word used: intent 43 times
    word used: Deripaska 0 times
    word used: steele 2540 times
    word used: Primary Sub-source 208 times

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  4. no one pays any attention to Grassley’s letters, including Grassley.

    Liked by 6 people

    • Bogeyfree says:

      They are about as meaningful as Lindsey’s letters!

      It been since Nov 21 when he sent that letter to Pompeo requesting all Biden communications with Ukraine back in 2016.

      Don’t these people realize half of America is laughing at them?

      Where are the memes of Grassley and Lindsey as the Boys Who Cried Wolf over and over again and in the end did nothing?

      Talk is cheap, look no further than the Federalist Society!

      Liked by 2 people

      • cwf60 says:

        We may be laughing, but that does not impact their behavior. No consequences for the coup plotters. Despicable.

        Liked by 4 people

        • Deplorable_Infidel says:

          “No consequences for the coup plotters.”

          Maybe not in this lifetime.

          Romans 12:19 KJV

          Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

          However, sometime in the future……

          Revelation 20:10-15 KJV

          And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. [11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. [14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. [15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

          Liked by 2 people

        • Issy says:

          They keep getting reelected, don’t they? Those strongly worded letters must be powerful stuff to the voters.

          Liked by 2 people

    • Battleship Wisconsin says:

      littleflower481 says: “No one pays any attention to Grassley’s letters, including Grassley.”

      Hank the Cowdog says, “Never mistake motion for action.”

      Liked by 2 people

  5. Bubby says:

    I read this post of Sundance and my head is swimming I don’t enough brain synapses left to keep all the dots connected! After reading this how come only two of the FISA warrants were deemed invalid? Seems to me all four FISA warrants would be invalid? Can someone explain how that can be after what all Sundance explained above? I thank you in advance!

    Liked by 5 people

    • islandpalmtrees says:

      After reading this how come only two of the FISA warrants were deemed invalid? One word Cover-up. If the first Carter Page warrant is (invalided) then it all falls apart.

      Liked by 9 people

      • Bubby says:

        Palmtree thanks. Occam’s Razor! I should have thought that everyone involved including the FISA Judges are corrupt. I guess I still start from a belief that there are some moral, honest humans left which is my mistake when it comes to anything dealing with Spygate!

        Liked by 5 people

    • johnnybiface says:

      To come out and say that all 4 Fisas were criminal abuses were too much to come out with at once. If they find out the other 2 were criminally abused as well, there would be weeks, months, and years before reaching a final determination in order to avoid the clean sweep of criminal abuses by the federal government. They did that with Collyer’s finally coming clear and recognizing the abuse she was complicit with. Here, ‘due diligence’ was she remitted some disgraceful request for the Feds to write back why what they did was why they did it. Its despicable. So, she consorted as defendant of the criminal abusers. So, they,, whoever ‘they’ is, probably didn’t want the swampy, hornets next disturbed so much so that there would be Church-like hearings that would rip apart the Rico-esque DOJ crimes so they soften it to pretend like some were bad but some were ‘good’. Its something what you would expect from a politburo like institution.

      Liked by 10 people

    • elsuperbus says:

      Splitting the baby.

      Liked by 3 people

    • There are very legal and intricate reasons these letters are sent. There , also are very legal and intricate reasons there are no answers or results. We all must go back to Law School for a few years. //S//

      Liked by 2 people

    • zekness says:

      just as Mueller was not directed to investigate the predicate to the origination of the intital FISA applications and the underlying claims of bona fides….so too Boasberg did not direct the DOJ to look at the first two…but only the last two.

      Islandpalmtrees is correct.

      This was not simply avoidance to look at the first two by the Mueller, or the DOJ IG, but the same careful avoidance continues even by the FISA court judge…who was recently selected to replace Collynn. My theory is that Collyn likely was either interested in seeking a report to determine ALL FISA applications and underlying “evidence”…or she may have taken the position to be very aggressive.. The “state” apparently felt she was a liability ….I am not buying into this “early retirement”. She was removed so that a more trusted Judge could direct the “cleanup”…Boasberg was chosen.

      It’s important to remember and consider: damning the last two FISA applications isn’t a defeat to “the state”…Mueller couldn’t put it off, and frankly the FBI/DOJ at this point would be satisfied to accept some defeat with persons who were caught up and indicted as a consequence of the last 2 FISA’s…it’s small beans to them in the bigger picture.

      The bigger picture is that not correcting the first two and especially the first FISA applications and spy warrant allows “the state” to preserve the challenge to the President of the United States. It’s the capstone…So they don’t allow that to fail. If it should fail, this has the potential to require an overhaul to the FISC, the patriot act, the summary defeat of the very weapon used by “the state” (spying on american politicians and their interests…big…big…big money and power ..nothing more powerful!)…and it also creates an environment that calls for the immediate removal and indictment of hundreds and hundreds of person who are right now, still in government…some of which are in congress who actually will be re-authorizing these broad(ly abused) powers.

      This avoidance is permanent..But I predict there might be some “new” developments after the re-authorization passes with flying (black) colors)…across all party-whores lines.

      Boasberg seems satisfied only examining the last two FISA’s the low handing fruit and it still preserves everything “the state” really seeks to remain in their control.

      Liked by 1 person

  6. Doppler says:

    Thanks for the refresher, Sundance, but this is becoming ancient history now. If the dam doesn’t burst in the next couple weeks, I doubt it ever will.

    Liked by 6 people

    • islandpalmtrees says:

      It won’t, we are looking at massive corruption, as you know.

      Liked by 1 person

    • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

      Barr’s task is to patch the holes in the dam . He can repair the dam because that would involve a complete rebuild. He can’t send anybody to jail because those persons would take those above and below them to jail as well.

      Trump says he caught them all. Is he bluffing them and us? I don’t believe that to be true. I guess we will see what his plan for the fourth qtr of this game is soon. I believe he is allowing Mitch enough rope to get his senate to end this scam and if Mitch can’t get that done then the show HAS TO BEGIN.

      Wyatt Earp………You tell them I’m coming…. and hell is coming with me, you hear?

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      • lolli says:

        IMO, PT and Rudy caught them all. PT said “we will see what happens” now at his rally’s he says “the swamp was bigger than I thought” (last 2 rallies) Who will prosecute? Not Barr.

        Liked by 3 people

        • If nothing “judicially” happens before November, then after PDJT’s reelection, I believe Mr. Durham may become the acting AG.

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          • lolli says:

            Interesting thought.
            After PT is re-elected, I do believe he will go scorched earth.
            I am still so cynical in regards to the turtle and the uniparty, I don’t trust any of them. I will be very relieved to see the end of the illegal impeachment. The articles should never have been accepted as legitimate, so who knows how far turtle will allow this to go.

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      • 55praises says:

        I suggest everyone read David McCullough’s “Johnstown Flood.” Non-engineered dam-fixes are unmitigated disasters-in-the-making.


      • Issy says:

        I don’t think he’s bluffing, but he didn’t say they would face justice. That is beyond his purview.

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      That’s true. The repetition has become the same old same old that we’ve heard before that has made no difference. Maybe it will all come out fifty years from now when all those currently involved are dead along with those who want answers now…but I doubt it.


  7. alonzo1956 says:

    I’m not in any way a conspiracy theorist. Today I became curious if Seth Rich was murdered for political reasons. This has become so insane that I have a difficult time mentally processing FACTS! It is truly mind boggling.

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    • vikingmom says:

      You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to ask that question! The answer is YES! He is the DNC staffer who found out that the primaries were rigged against Bernie Sanders and he downloaded the files necessary to prove it. No one was “hacked” by the Russians and Julian Assange knows it too, which is why he is so dangerous to the Swamp.

      The bigger questions in my mind are why President Trump hasn’t gotten Assange out of jail and brought him to a safe location to tell everything he knows and what threats have been levied against Seth Rich’s family (and by whom) that they do not want any investigation into his death!

      Liked by 6 people

      • elsuperbus says:

        Trump never had and still does not have any law enforcement power as the Chief Executive. Therefore, the DOJ will continue to keep silent anyone who can directly attest to or refute any of the Democrats’ crimes. Same thing as Manafort, Flynn, and Stone. Look at the lawyers handling the Assange extradition. Same old Mueller group.

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        • Kent Clizbe says:

          “Trump never had and still does not have any law enforcement power as the Chief Executive.”

          That’s not the usual interpretation of the Constitution.

          The Constitution imbues the President with the duty to ““take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”

          Furthermore, the DOJ is an executive branch department, answering to the President. The Attorney General serves at the President’s pleasure, that is, the AG works for the President, and is charged with carrying out the Presidential duties regarding law and law enforcement.


      • zekness says:

        “the state” (US) now “enjoys” a legal situation where assange can never be extradited from the UK…and they prefer it this way. The UK refuses to extradite anyone to any country that specifies capitol punishment for a crime. And while the secret grand jury hasn’t been revealed to the public, it’s presumed by British Courts that Assange would be charged with espionage a crime that carries a capitol sentence potential…So the British High courts would have to change its laws to allow it.

        Now, a recent legal development (that has since gone silent mysteriously) wrt Assange directly assisting Bradley Manning with encryption breaking techniques to steal classmat, was publicly “leaked”) this announcement came as DOJ investigators were threatening Manning with additional jail time for not cooperating with the ongoing investigations into other matters. And I believe Manning served some time for his failure to cooperate. ..this was about the time that equador decided to drop political protection and kicked assange out of the embassy in london. Immediately he was arrested (for a real crime of refusing to comply with a warrant) and is now serving a sentence in british jail. There are no serious desires to request the UK to extradite assange to the US…so the extradition treaty entanglement (about the capitol punishment for espionage that forbids such extradition) means that the US will never see Assange in courts.

        It is my belief that “the state” (both US and UK) are not very comfortable allowing Assange to make testimony in trial on these matters either. The most compelling reasons is that Assange has credible evidence he can introduce that place the US and UK IC communities in a a hard place before the public.

        He will probably be epstein’ed.

        It’s sad…to make the prediction…but he danced with the devil…there is always that risk when you take on the most powerful people on the planet. These people are not casual about how they react to threats to their powers.

        IMHO …Assange does know the leak source for the DNC emails. However, it probably (if he is smart (and has a sense of self-preservation), he will never reveal this source as an insurance policy that he is not killed for revealing it. He has made statements that he has this material in reserve with many other handlers …and I do not doubt he has set that contingency thoroughly in the past. How this might protect him, is yet to be seen.

        I can imagine assange will be held by “the state” for a very very long time, until his death in jail. And then we can discuss theories about his death…and the events that led up to it.


    • Thinker says:

      Sure he was murdered. The FBI admit they have possession of 15 or so emails between Rich and Julian Assange. Why would Seth Rich have any need to contact Assange? Rich was a Bernie supporter. Rich worked at the DNC. When he saw the Clinton camp screw Bernie for the nomination, Rich apparently (my supposition based on Bill Binney’s info that says the DNC data was not hacked but was downloaded from inside the DNC) sent the data to Assange to expose the Clinton camp. He was shot in the back in an apparent robbery (so the police said, even though his wallet and phone were not taken).

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    • Issy says:

      Who would have ever believed any of the Spygate Conspiracy could have ever happened in this country? I’m open to considering just about anything now.

      Liked by 2 people

      • zekness says:

        Issy, the current public level of understanding of spy operations is not new…It’s been going on for a very long time. It’s the “secret” that keeps the most powerful people on planet earth at the top of the food chain. It’s a power so great and successful even mentioning that general aspects of it would have been unheard of (no pun intended)..

        and then comes along Assange and Snowden…

        and the curtain gets pulled back.

        these powers go unchecked.

        we are seeing a president impeached because he does not believe these powers should exist ….but only in the most narrowly constitutional consistent scope.

        this is the real reason why POTUS must be removed. “the state” can not allow a president or any person affect these powers or even suggest that they be limited.

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      • oldumb says:

        I have not discounted any theory since 911. I believe the US deep-state lied to us, and if true anything can be a lie – or the truth.

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    • zekness says:

      DO NOT allow yourself to stall out in despair. Take a break. There IS NOTHING about any of this corruption (evil) that you should allow to break your spirit and overall health.

      I do believe this is Satan’s goal…To use moments like this to make solid christians weak…and the non-believers ever more bold to institutionalize chaos and disorder.

      Here is what I do, when I cannot seem to negotiate the ways of this world…

      I pray.

      I get back to the simple joys of being a servant of God. I help other people…visit family…help out a neighbor in need. Volunteer…Work on a hobby. Read a good book.

      I prioritize as much as possible.

      I am a life long member to a very important group that states it’s mission:

      God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

      serenity…it’s a valuable treasure…embrace it.

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      • BitchyPants says:

        {{{DO NOT allow yourself to stall out in despair. Take a break. There IS NOTHING about any of this corruption (evil) that you should allow to break your spirit and overall health}}}

        This should be at the top of every page
        What I tell those who do not believe:
        When the plane is going down – all you have is God and Prayer

        Just Remember This:
        Every single time things look bad for President Trump there seems to be a miracle right around the corner…


  8. Moe Grimm says:

    That’s it Sundance. Keep swinging on Facts through the satanic leftist’s distractions and staged expositions.


  9. Bogeyfree says:

    Honestly at this point, I’m thinking we are better off sacrificing McConnell in KY for whoever is running against him just to get hm up of the way for 6 years.

    After that he 83 or 84 in 2026.

    Based on the 2014 results my guess is it would take around 125,000 R voters to not vote for Senator or to hold their nose and vote for the Democrat.

    If PT presses hard and we keep a majority in the Senate come Nov which I think will happen, it means we at least get a new Senate Majority Leader.

    At this point I’d be willing to vote against McConnell just to be done with him since it seems that any possible Republican contender gets trashed mysteriously.

    IMO, It truly would be a fitting way for the American people to pull a coup on McConnell like many are doing to PT in the Senate today!

    Liked by 1 person

    • JC Calhoun says:

      McConnell knows that would happen if he does not put down this coup…there are thousands of patriotic Americans who will go to Kentucky to see that he is defeated.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Moe Grimm says:

      Concur. So 125K votes huh? Do=Able as the current threats facing the Heartland are at this point far greater, even in the assessment of many normies, than in previous years. Though it’s true that Michelle has been useful in flushing black robed marxist monks from judicial politburos – his overall record elicits far less than MAGA Level reviews. More still, in McConnell’s former capacity running the Nat. Republican Senatorial Committee, and accrued influence since, he has $upported a litany of Dead Elephants. Some numbers: (Michelle by 222,096 over Grimes). Note the change 2014-16 heat maps and numbers. For me, a clear let alone effective replacement seems anything but obvious. This choice is exponentially easier for the HoR where there are several excellent candidates far better than McCarthy… IF the House is snatched from -‘rat control this Nov. which is by NO means a lock given the significant percentage of a still woefully ill-informed electorate.

      One saving grace is this serpent, this Creep, Richard Burr/NC has stated he’ll not seek another term (2022) though he’ll be missed by his SSCI co-chair and dominatrix Mark Warner. If ever there exists a picture “Worth a Thousand Words” it is here:×3151/1920×1080/2018/12/01/1543684574540.jpg. I am not influenced at all by his current stance on removing PDT. Burr may be the most underestimated threat in the “legislative” branch.

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  10. CORRUPTION shown by The Deep State and The Swamp in DC makes the calculating, scheming, murdering crooks and criminals in Ukraine and in Puerto Rico look like a bunch of novices, apprentices, and rank amateurs.

    Liked by 2 people

  11. waicool says:

    thank you Sundance, each piece of the puzzle expose along with the timeline context updates is an invaluable guide for me. Lovin’ the GO DEEP parts.


  12. Right to reply says:

    Peter Schweitzer stated although he’d covered the Biden’s in his book, none had broken the law as they use loopholes they themselves created. IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY!

    Liked by 2 people

  13. dwpender says:

    Sundance — There is one error in your customarily outstanding article.

    The “insurance policy” text was dated August 15, 2016, not August 25.

    I mention this only because Strozk sent the “insurance policy” text on the SAME date he sent the infamous, even more damning, “No, he won’t. We’ll stop it [a Trump Presidency]” text. I believe there is more than a coincidental temporal relationship between these 2 texts.

    I am hopeful that one of the “something(s) significant” Durham has discovered is what super duper fragmentation or other tech tools were used in an (ultimately unsuccessful) effort to make the “We’ll stop it” text “unrecoverable.” This was the textual response to Page’s “damsel in distress” August 15 query — “Trump will never be President, right? Right,” that Horowitz was able to recover only after 4 levels of super sophisticated reconstructive efforts, culminating with the DOD.

    If Durham has found that Strozk — likely with super techie help (remember the “wizards” at Quantico) took steps to obscure/hide this “smoking gun” text, REAL indictments will result.

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  14. freepetta says:

    The FIB oops I meant the FBI is a fake corrupt bunch of political hacks placed in undeserving positions by corrupt politicians. The entire agency needs to be disbanded.

    Liked by 3 people

  15. Mike in a Truck says:

    Anastasia- good jumpin Jimmy crickets. Like Rush says- she looks like a woman you might catch a disease from- but wouldn’t care.


  16. paintbrushsage says:

    I think the “insurance policy” is connected to the fact the higher ups in the FBI knew that you couldn’t have someone winning who might uncover how the FBI had been using the federal government databases for a long time….the 702’s backward and forward queries…the permanent record.

    Even after Clapper lied to the Congress, it wasn’t until Donald Trump unexpectedly won and the investigations have begun to be uncovered of what he has gone through that we are truly aware we have no Fourth Ammendment rights.

    It was a good thing that Sekulow mentioned on the floor of the Senate that Bob Mueller investigation included destruction of evidence (evidence on Page/Strzok agents phones wiped while an IG inspection was going on).

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  17. Rick says:

    “Deripaska is just generally talking to Chris Steele, whom Deripaska hired in 2016 as an attorney in the U.K. to represent his interests, not knowing that Steele would use anything Oleg said about Donald Trump in Steele’s fantastical story.”

    That Christopher Steele was an attorney is news to me. I thought he was hired by Deripaska for lobbying purposes, and that Adam Waldman was the attorney hired by both Deripaska and Steele.

    And I thought Joseph Millian was the primary sub-source used by Steele? I do remember the FBI asking Deripaska to tell a lie, and Deripaska rejected their request laughing about how ridiculous it was. I don’t remember the details of the request.

    Their sins be many and vast. BTW, have you heard John Durham picked up a non-partisan prosecutor? Somethings in the wings…


    • zekness says:

      yes, the new addition checks out….specifically looks at her CV…it’s an interesting suggestion about what kind of crimes she is likely to be prosecuting alongside Durham.

      I think we should resist the urge to assume the entire indictments will be executed quickly. There is a great amount of corruption and misconduct to deal with. I look forward to hearing even more prosecutors secured to that effort.

      I don’t see any trials beginning until after the election either. Barr has to consider the political maximum effects. His team will probably release some pressers ….but I don’t expect any that goes to trial until after the election.

      I would, like everyone else, to see these indictments occuring right now (yesterday).


  18. As a man thinkth says:

    SD…Thank you for the past three years of eye opening enlightenment concerning the complex inter workings of this coupe…not only have you shared factual information and instructive timelines, we have all benefited from your thoughtful presentation of governmental procedures and the workings various congressional committees…keep up the good work

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  19. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    Chuck and Ron fishing????

    Chuck and Ron’s letter says they reviewed the CLASSIFIED version of the IG report.

    They’ve ALREADY SEEN the footnotes.
    Now they want us to.

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  20. Bogeyfree says:

    I wonder if there was a headline or a story in the Lexington and Louisville newspapers that suggested there is a growing movement in place to donate McConnell’s Senate seat to his opponent in Nov as Republicans are saying they are better off in the Senate without him.

    I can just see the headline


    Seriously, it is time IMO for MAGA supporters to stand up and say no more to these imposters who say they support PT

    I wonder if his office got a couple thousand texts, emails and faxes with this headline if he might change his tune?


  21. GB Bari says:

    I like this article. Sundance is less polite and politically cautious. Sundance calls out the fraud directly; no mincing words. Darn straight there are scores of dirty agents and other employees in the FBI and DOJ who are ALL complicit in this gigantic crime against the State.

    It’s a crime, I don’t care that they created internal rules that let them weasel around any criminal responsibility. A coup d’etat is a crime, no matter what laws the perps don’t break but otherwise abuse in order to commit that crime.

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  22. Doug Amos says:

    Mrs Dithers has written a million letters; the results, 0! Barr is everywhere but nowhere and Durham is another gov’t apparition more likely, similar to the surreptitious Clinton Foundation investigation in Arkansas, unlikely to put 1 criminal in handcuffs.


  23. Hebo Sabe says:

    Democrat politicians: “But he’s not stopping….”


    Liked by 2 people

  24. Ernest Marsalis says:

    Why did Grassley give up the chairmanship of Judicial and hand it to Grahemnesty?
    Answer: Deep State Patsy.
    Don’t fall for it.

    Liked by 1 person

  25. nimrodman says:

    Maybe if Grassley were to make his letters more – oh, I don’t know – sternly worded?


  26. mikeyboo says:

    “People are starting to question the assembly of the IG report because the underlying explanations by the FBI officials within it are fraught with a lack of candor.”
    FBI officials lack candor? Surely you jest!


  27. gilfavor says:

    I’ll make this short. Bill Barr should’ve hung alongside HW back in 1987.


    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “Congress is working on a new bill with transparency.”

      That might be the most troubling single sentence I have read recently. Consider:

      1) “CONgress” – At this time, no definition or explanation needed with this word.

      2) “is working” – The Republic is safer when they are NOT working. Better they be on vacation or recess.

      3) “new bill” -Long term staffers (insiders) and paid lobbyists write the vast majority of the legislation they foist on the rest of us, not the elected representatives.

      One only has to consider the vast number of anti-second amendment bills that come up throughout the nation to know that the vast majority of these elected officials have no clue in regards to the basics of firearms and their operation and their limitations. I will cite an example from a few years ago, when a representative (I believe from Colorado) thought that by merely banning “high capacity magazines” they would go away because they would be “used up”. She had no concept that they could be reloaded with more cartridges after they were used once.

      4) “transparency” – Evidently a politicians definition of this word is not the same as Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary of the English Language. Sort of like a Urologist that specializes in prostate cancer defines “continence” and potency after their “treatments”.

      Apparently in the fine print of their “results” one is considered “continent” if you do not require more than 2 pads a day to control urine leakage. If you can achieve some semblance of an erection with the use of drugs and/or vacuum devices, etc. than you are also considered “potent”.


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