Coronavirus Cases Rise Globally – First U.S. Cases Detected…

The Coronavirus was first first diagnosed in China less than a month ago. On Thursday (U.S.) / Friday (Beijing) the Chinese government stated they have confirmed cases of 830 patients and the death toll has risen to 25.

The virus has infected more than a dozen people outside China around the world, mostly in Asia. However, the first U.S. case has been reported in Texas who traveled to the epicenter of the outbreak, Wuhan City, China.

A total of 18 million people are now under quarantine in China.

(Via CNBC) […] Local authorities in China have quarantined Wuhan and Huanggang, which have a combined population of 17 million. Including Wuhan where the virus was first identified, travel bans were in effect Thursday for at least eight cities.

[…] The previously unknown, flu-like coronavirus strain is believed to have emerged from an animal market in central Wuhan city.

A group of scientists said late Wednesday that they may have a breakthrough in discovering the original source of the virus, declaring that snakes, particularly the Chinese krait and the Chinese cobra, may be responsible for the outbreak. The scientist used samples of the virus from patients and determined the genetic code. (read more)

Interestingly, a China researcher on Twitter, Ben Tallmadge, often a great source of granular details for all things China, has been providing information about China developing biological weapons specifically in the city of Wuhan.

Citing a story from July 2019, Tallmadge draws attention to a level-4 biological lab in Canada that was infiltrated Chinese spy scientists and a biologic agent was removed.  What makes this aspect interesting is the location where the Chinese spies returned after they were caught; Wuhan City, the exact place where the Coronavirus started.

A year earlier, in July 2018, China inaugurated Wuhan biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) lab in the city.  It is the only level-four biological research facility in the country.  The Wuhan lab was built precisely to look into dangerous pathogens like the novel Coronavirus; which again is reported to have originated from Wuhan City.  This just doesn’t seem like a coincidence.

In July 2019, there was a considerable protest in Wuhan City because the Chinese government was building a massive incinerator in the event a biologic element escaped the facility.  Again, this doesn’t seem like a coincidence.


What makes this additionally alarming is that the Chinese government generally has a history of playing-down the level of any internal threat within their society.

The scale of open activity by the Chinese government reflects a genuine public concern considerably beyond what they are normally willing to admit.

You can read more details and assembled media reports [HERE] in an ongoing thread that Tallmadge is compiling.

“Make no mistake, this is an emergency in China. But it has not yet become a global health emergency. It may yet become one,” Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters on a conference call following a second emergency meeting on the disease on Thursday. The emergency committee members were “very divided,” a WHO official said, coming to a split vote for a second time. While the disease is spreading through human-to-human contact in China, Tedros said it’s not yet spreading in other areas of the world where people have flown to after visiting China.

The virus causes severe illness in about a quarter of the people who become infected, he said, killing people who generally have other underlying health conditions.

WHO is not recommending any broader restrictions on travel or trade at this time. Physicians recommended basic hygiene, including washing hands with soap and water and avoiding touching eyes, nose or mouth. (link)

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198 Responses to Coronavirus Cases Rise Globally – First U.S. Cases Detected…

  1. MAGADJT says:

    Was just watching the movie “Contagion”. Very similar in that the virus in the movie originated from an animal in China, and had a mortality rate of around 20%. Good movie if you’ve never seen it, but the movie virus grew into a pandemic pretty quickly and the initial recommendations from the health orgs was ‘basic hygiene’. Hopefully they can get a handle on this before it gets out of hand.

    Liked by 3 people

    • California Joe says:

      World War Z is great and the virus infection kills and creates zombies. Brad Pitt is pretty good too.


    • John Bosley says:

      Most of the cities under quarantine are out of food, all supermarkets and stores have been raided and sold out.
      Nothing is getting in or out.
      SHTF is getting real over there.
      The Chicoms have a real problem on their hands, either this scare is to stop protests from getting out or something really nasty got out of that lab and it ain’t no Coronavirus.

      Liked by 3 people

      • sundance says:

        Liked by 10 people

        • North to the future says:

          The punishments are already well underway. There were several people who initially leaked the news of the outbreak who are in jail.


        • noswamp says:

          SD, as usual you come through for us Treepers. Excellent report. And you have seen below many levels of lies coming out of China. You get viruses from improperly cooked snakes and bats? No. Maybe stomach issues, but not the corona virus. In my opinion I feel that their bio-weapons/research lab accidentally leaked something to the public.

          My only reason for believing this version is the MASSIVE response to the spread of the virus, I have seen convoys of troops now heading to Wuhan. Closing escape routes for 19 million people will not be easy. As they get more and more sick, people will start to get violent. China knows this. When you get a virus that is spread by “touch” as well as by coughing etc. you know you have something serious on your hands. That is why toll keepers on highways in and around Wuhan were wearing hazmat suits with gloves.

          I have friends in the area that tell me that Wuhan hospitals are turning away sick folks. More people sick than hospitals can handle. Turning the internet off will not stop communications out of Wuhan. If this is a weaponized version of the corona virus, god help all of us. Incubation I guess is 7 to 10 days.

          We will know much more then.
          I hope for the best Treepers.
          I remain optimistic for the USA, so far, so good. Trump will not play politics but will do what he needs to do to protect the American people. Thank god we have a President that is truly a President.

          China is in a panic. Too bad for them. I will keep all posted and I urge all Treepers with contacts in China to do the same. All of our perspectives count. SD thanks for your serious reporting to a level that is far better than anything MSM could even fathom. I expect copycats tomorrow though. I wonder if they will give you credit, as you gave others credit.

          Liked by 7 people

    • The book by Robin Cook was very good as well


    • bertdilbert says:

      I was in the hospital for 2 days and tested positive for corona virus. Obviously not the same corona virus but hoping I have antibodies from that one when this version hits the US.


    • Actually, Sundance, the first US case was reported on Tuesday, in Washington State.

      Liked by 1 person

  2. Johnny Boost says:

    From what I’ve read, coronavirus is basically a bad cold or flu virus. Quarantining 18 million people because 830 people are under the weather seems a bit extreme, especially since it’s wintertime and respiratory illnesses are common. Something else is going on here.

    Liked by 7 people

    • cjzak says:

      My thoughts exactly. This seems like a major over reaction to what has been described as a flu type illness. What’s the rest of the story here?

      Liked by 1 person

    • deception Stinks says:

      I agree, Johnny Boost, that “Something else is going on here.” Otherwise, why aren’t our ‘trusted’ TV news reporters suggesting our borders be immediately sealed up w/military and/or National Guard in order to keep this ‘deadly’ virus from entering our country? And today didn’t another caravan of thousands successfully break through Mexico’s southern border by throwing rocks at their military and now on their way to our southern border with no food, water, necessities or busses to help them? Yeah, right. Or perhaps these ‘trusted’ news reporters are heavily invested in Big Pharma. (1) And then there’s Obama’s last minute ‘legacy’ Executive Order robbing US citizens of their ‘right’ to refuse vaccines. (2)
      (1) There are 271 New Vaccines in Big Pharma’s Pipeline ~ 1/22/20
      (2) Obama Legacy: Medical Tyranny? New Order Issued for Detainment and Quarantines ~ 1/23/20 ~


    • LouisianaTeaRose says:

      No. Even though it would be an excellent “weapon”.

      The reason this virus is so dangerous is threefold:

      1) these are extremely communicable viruses, can mutate so fast and they jump species, so isolating the “host” is difficult.

      2) the incubation period is up to a couple of weeks, so lots of spread before illness becomes apparent

      3) virulence is severe in so many, because of a hyperimmune reaction: your immune system attacks YOU….resulting in inflammation, most importantly lung tissue. Causing hypoxia that is refractory despite high FIO2 requirements, which damages organs so severely that they shut down, called MSOF (multisystem organ failure). You can be on a ventilator with max settings and still die.

      The healthy immune system is key. See Pandemic of 1918, also known as Spanish Flu. The old people and babies didn’t get the hit like the young and middle aged people who died by the millions.

      They better be watching our borders closer than ever.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        They didn’t do anything to secure our borders after 9/11, the biggest terror attack in world history. Why would they close them now? They won’t. And Americans won’t agree to self quarantine either.

        Liked by 1 person

    • A2 says:

      The story is it was released from a so-called lab in Wuhan. pRC is in full cover mode.

      As with SARS, there maybe two explanations. biowarfare, or trying to find a cure for the common cold.

      Needless to say, their touted stringent protocols were shit.

      Netizens online are calling Xi, ‘Winnie the flu’.

      Liked by 1 person

    • MaineCoon says:

      Respecifically, I believe you need to educate yourself more. How about we start with the
      Spanish flu pandemic of 1918. See how many can die.

      This strain of coronavirus has no known cure.

      “The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet’s population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans.” (wiki)


  3. barnabusduke says:

    Any clue as to where in Texas? I have a niece that is a nurse in Austin…


  4. Mike L says:

    Texas case is #2. Washington St was #1. Possible in LAX and New Jersey
    26 dead
    11 cities (~29 million) under quarantine

    Liked by 3 people

  5. WES says:

    Non-containment is the issue. The quarantine issued is just for show. Most airline flights continue as usual.

    Liked by 3 people

  6. booger71 says:

    Seems like a lot of these flu viruses originate out of Asia

    Liked by 1 person

    • Judiciary says:

      Booger71 these contagions originate out of places where people eat stuff like bats, snakes, and monkey brains. Nasty

      Liked by 5 people

      • Ad rem says:

        Live-streaming host in China wanted to gain popularity by eating a live octopus
        But she ended up screaming and crying after the octopus sucked onto her face
        Her show captured how she desperately tried to pull its tentacles off her cheek…..

        Liked by 3 people

    • MAGADJT says:

      Yep. You always see Asians walking around with masks on, even in the United States. Not sure why, but I’ve wondered if it was just because they’ve been trained to mask up in public? A lot of the Chinese diet is animals we would consider disgusting cuisine, and i highly doubt the government there can really police food safety effectively with that many people. Not like we do here in the US, anyway.

      Liked by 1 person

      • TarsTarkas says:

        Frequent bad air pollution is a big reason why they wear masks.

        When you have swine, chickens, and humans living in close quarters, plus the use of night soil (human poop, pig poop) for cropfield fertilizer, China is an incubator for new strains of flu and other contagious diseases. Add in ‘unusual’ dietary items, and it spells trouble.

        The death toll to infection ratio makes it sound like SARS like levels of lethality.

        Liked by 4 people

      • Kristin DeBacco says:

        St. Greta definitely needs to go talk to XiJinPing. They need to stop eating those wild animals. or is her issue only carbons?
        Doesn’t the flu originate EVERY year with a mutated strain From China? Hence we are urged to inoculate every year….


    • DebbieSemms says:

      With a population much bigger than ours it’s no surprise.

      Liked by 1 person

    • keeler says:

      That is because most viral strains develop in animal herds and flocks, then jump to human hosts where they mutate.

      There is a lot more direct animal-human interaction in Asia, and animal husbandry there is far less sterile than in the developed world. More people there live directly with their animals in less clean conditions, therefore the chance for viral mutation/transference is much higher.

      We probably see more strains originate in Asia rather than Africa due to climate and environmental conditions being more favorable in northern latitudes, though that is a guess on my part, as well as higher population densities.

      That is not to discount the possibility something else may be going on here, of course.

      Liked by 1 person

    • A2 says:

      Yes, we did a ecological, virology and zoonoses study of Flu outbreaks and their reservoirs. You will not know this unless you are in the field.

      Long history here in South China. Definitely a reservoir of animal to human transmissions.


  7. TarsTarkas says:

    With an elderly (although healthy) mother and her partner, and an elderly (and very ill) brother-in-law father in Aus, this is very concerning and alarming.

    The situation reminds me of very much of Stephen King’s ‘The Stand’, at least the illness spreading part.

    Liked by 5 people

  8. Streak 264 says:

    We have our own virus to worry about.
    It’s called TDS.

    Liked by 8 people

  9. Thank you SD for the report. I fear this is a much larger story that the Impeachment trail. It has the potential to kill thousands.


  10. guest4ever says:

    Why am I thinking the deep state is originally behind this?

    Liked by 2 people

  11. T2020 says:



  12. Judiciary says:

    Stinking ChiComs. They’re 100% evil and untrustworthy. As an aside, the name Ben Tallmadge belonged to an early American Colonial Patriot, Spymaster, and officer in the Continental Army.

    Liked by 1 person

  13. John Bosley says:

    From what I am reading , this virus attacts the upper and lower respiratory system and causes organ failure mostly in the kidneys.


  14. delmarvajim says:

    Wasn’t there some Chinese guy arrested a couple years ago for removing biological pathogens from a lab in Boston. If I recall he took it to Canada. I’ll try looking for this tomorrow

    Liked by 1 person

  15. litenmaus says:

    It was surprising to learn that China has banned large group gatherings during the Lunar New Year festival which begins on Saturday…..The Chinese are big on their celebrations and China’s ban could be likened to the US Government shutting down the New Years Eve Celebration in Times Square.


  16. Greg Dane says:

    Do you remember the H1N1 Swine Flu “pandemic”scare of 2009?

    This so-called coronavirus is yet another Big Pharma pushed agenda for mass vaccinations of the US populace considering the scare tactics and verbiage used to tout its voracity.

    Lets look at the facts of the past:
    In 2009, the world population was only a little over 6.7 Billion people; while the USA had about 304 Million people at that time.

    Annual deaths from the regular flu worldwide was estimated to be between 250,000 and 500,000 with about 36,000 occurring within the USA.

    Of the reported Swine Flu cases (H1N1) there were about 149,781 deaths reported worldwide and of which only 43, 771 were in the USA alone.

    On the worldwide scale, in the USA alone, that equated to .000118 of 1% in the world.

    Of the H1N1 swine flu cases reported in the USA alone, there were only 43,771 which also equates to only .000143 of 1% worldwide.

    Of the reported deaths clearly associated with the Swine flu in the USA alone, there was only 302 which equates to .000000993 of 1% of the worlds population.

    The simple fact that this Chinese virus is in its infancy and steps are already being taken to curb it is NO reason to push the dangerous narrative we are hearing.

    The simple fact is the numbers do not add up to anything even remotely of concern.

    All the data shown here was extracted directly off of the CDC website at the time the Swine flu was being touted as a pandemic. The numbers just didn’t add up then – they sure don’t add up now.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Greg Dane says:

      slight correction – there were 43,771 CASES reported in the USA – NOT deaths as stated. The rest of the statement is accurate. Sorry for the confusion.

      Liked by 1 person

      • noswamp says:

        “It just so happens that a professor from Imperial College London recently warned the coronavirus has the same kill rate as the Spanish flu, which claimed the lives of 20-50 million people in 1918”.

        We don’t know what we don’t know. I would never assume rain would be light when it could be heavy due to surrounding TStorms. I would rather predict they could, emphasis COULD, be heavy, and turn out that rain be light. Rather be over prepared than under prepared. Again, that is just me.

        What I do understand is that folks do not want to panic the public. However that being said my dear Treepers, if you are not “concerned” by what is happening, then I posit that you do not have a pulse. That being said, I pray nothing happens too seriously in the US. Good chance that things will be better than what is going on in China.

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        • MaineCoon says:

          Agree. We need to be HIGHLY concerned.

          The incubation period can be up to 14 days. think of the huge contact of each person within that timeframe… these numbers are exponentially going to rise.

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  17. DebbieSemms says:

    I think the media is making more of this than there is ( as they always do). This is not even as bad as other viruses in recent years and I think the idea that it is related to military experimentation is absurd.
    Less than 10% death rate from the cold like virus and mostly in the young and elderly…
    I expect in a couple months it won’t be much of a story.

    Liked by 1 person

  18. TRProst says:

    There are no coincidences.


    • mandy says:

      “Event 201

      The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.”


  19. burginthorn says:

    Was reading the Australian news and 6 people in New South Wales and Queensland are currently being tested for the virus. “It is always possible that … people could be incubating the virus on that plane today. Australia’s chief medical officer, Brendan Murphy, warned it could be weeks before any infected passengers showed symptoms.”
    Weeks? I don’t like the sound of this.


  20. joeknuckles says:

    What a wild right wing conspiracy theory it is to think that the honorable Chinese government would resort to biological warfare. It’s not like they’ve been sending enough fentanyl here to kill the entire population many times over. /s

    Liked by 1 person

  21. MrACC says:

    Can you say distract?

    Liked by 1 person

  22. woohoowee says:

    I think this was last Friday:

    The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention set up screening points at airports in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York on Friday in hopes of catching coronavirus carriers before they made it into the country, but they were apparently too late – or too far south – for US Patient Zero. While the CDC has claimed the threat to Americans is low, it also claims to be taking “proactive preparedness precautions.”


    • woohoowee says:

      “Embargoed Until: Friday, January 17, 2020, 2:00 p.m. ET”

      “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Department of Homeland Security’s Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will implement enhanced health screenings to detect ill travelers traveling to the United States on direct or connecting flights from Wuhan, China. This activity is in response to an outbreak in China caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (2019 nCoV), with exported cases to Thailand and Japan.

      Starting January 17, 2020, travelers from Wuhan to the United States will undergo entry screening for symptoms associated with 2019-nCoV at three U.S. airports that receive most of the travelers from Wuhan, China: San Francisco (SFO), New York (JFK), and Los Angeles (LAX) airports.”


  23. alliwantissometruth says:

    Don’t worry. Here in the USA we have a very responsible government that protects our borders and points of entry and would never allow unchecked people like illegal aliens, refugees or any foreigners to simply waltz in…

    Oh wait

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  24. Graham Pink says:

    If you can kill off a big chunk of the native African population imagine the freedom that gives you to plunder the resources.


    • iswhatitis says:

      Graham Pink says: “If you can kill off a big chunk of the native African population imagine the freedom that gives you to plunder the resources.

      I’ve had the impression that the African continent’s resources have long been plundered. Perhaps I am mistaken – but if not, such measures aren’t really necessary for that purpose.

      Liked by 1 person

    • John Bosley says:

      Hmmm, similar to what the Conquistadors did to the Aztecs?


  25. Tiffthis says:

    So Justin Bieber is currently battling Lyme disease- meaning if corona spreads he will be the first to get corona with lyme disease.


  26. TreeClimber says:

    Glad I’m not the only one whose first thought was “biological warfare.”

    Okay, so who else will point out the timing right after the US-China trade deal is signed? Just me? I’m the only one who finds that a little coincidental?


  27. Roni says:

    Ban all flights from China.


  28. JohnCasper says:

    Impeachavirus has already affected over half the American House of Representatives and almost half the American Senate. While it may not result in physical death, the circumstantial evidence that it results in mental death is overwhelming.


  29. Julia Adams says:

    This virus will likely spread. Best prevention: Wash hands frequently, fist bump instead of hand shakes with people. Avoid common foods. By common foods, they mean foods left out in a group settings, like fruit and salad bars, donut or danish plates, buffets, etc. Anything that others will have touched or breathed on Most of these virus are respiratory droplet transmission with highest risk being within a 3 foot area of the infected person.

    Click, open and Scroll down to section: public health news for updates on wuhan virus


  30. JustScott says:

    Shanghi ex-pat Wife follows a lot of Shanghi forums, has been inreasingly concerned about this for the last few days. Normally she ignores stuff like this…

    Liked by 1 person

  31. Mike L says:

    Possible case kind of close to me here in Tennessee (~100 miles away) @ Tennessee Tech

    Liked by 1 person

  32. Mike in a Truck says:

    Bug escaped the lab. Brought to you by the people that harvest prisoners organs.

    Liked by 2 people

  33. 300 says:

    Glad I’m stocked up and live in the sticks, just in case.

    Liked by 1 person

  34. 300 says:

    Anyone watch the videos floatin around where the chicoms are eatin bats, mice, frogs and such with the guts still in them.


  35. Spuyten Duyvil says:

    Somewhere in the house I have a copy of Richard Preston’s 1994 non-fiction book, “The Hot Zone: A Terrifying True Story.” Time to dig it out and reread it.

    Liked by 1 person

  36. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    China can’t catch a break. Feels biblical.


  37. Mike L says:

    ~35 million now in lockdown.

    Liked by 1 person

    • noswamp says:

      I may have been off with my guess of 7 to 10 days incubation. Thanks LTF! You are spot on! What irks me is the Seattle reaction to the problem, “low risk for Americans”.

      Actually the CDC response for today is the same. But the Seattle response was concerning since Chinese are pouring into that city daily from SFO flights and some direct flights via Taiwan. There is something serious hiding beneath the waters here folks.

      Hope you have your masks and are prepared. There is no way the USA escapes this clean. I hope so, but judging from China putting JingZhou under quarantine making it 35 million people that are stuck in their cities, I fear for the worse for the USA.

      Please take care of your families folks, this is no joke. I have never seen the Chinese react this way to any virus previously. Trump and the CDC better wake up. The Chinese numbers are way way underestimated (take their numbers of the sick and the dead and now multiply it by 10).

      Liked by 1 person

    • noswamp says:

      Excellent video. Definitely confirms that China is under reporting the virus. How about CDC recognizing this? Stop the games CDC. Trump is following their lead, but as of now, I do not trust them as far as I can throw them. Just me folks. Just me.


  38. Liberty Forge says:

    There’s a strange article about this virus, and a connection to Bill & Melinda Gates — including patents & vaccines.

    Within the article is a video of a simulation, conducted last October, of an outbreak of the coronavirus.


  39. Mike L says:


  40. Retired IG says:

    Yess GregDane and JohnCasper,
    This “news” blows my mind. Lesson to me, save off line all links to research re related to Big Pharma . IMPEACHAVIRUS for CERTAIN.
    BE FRIGHTENED. VERY FRIGHTENED. Snort. I’m waiting for the US BIG PHARMA COMPLEX TO COME UP WITH A NEW ANTI-BIOTIC VACCINE mainlined from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.(Bill and Melinda did you get the memo that antibiotics don’t kill viruses?).
    I have some real skin in this game. I’ve lost two, possibly three members of my family to “cancer” caused by exposure to environmental toxins.( asbestos, and/or DDT or glyphosphate). You bet I’m bitter.
    And SINCE WHEN DOES the Chinese “news” media release ANY PICTURES let alone NEWS STORIES out of their “MEDIA?” What a sham by the FAKE NEWS.
    IMPEACHOMANIA. Not happy enough with terrorizing American’s FOR YEARS with the TOXIC SLIME AND OOZE, exuding from the suppurating wounds caused by their TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, and the “un-impeachment” OBVIOUSLY FAILING BIG TIME, well lets just move on to instill more DOUBT, DISTRUST, AND FEAR. MORE FAKE NEWS. I for one, am NOT TAKING THIS BAIT. If you haven’t heard the real news yet folks, NOT A ONE OF US GETS OUT OF HERE ALIVE.


    • Jimmy Jack says:



    • Dixie says:

      I’m very sorry for the loss of your loved ones.

      I believe death to all is what they intend but not exactly sure who “they” is as the “they” I presume you mean would also be exposed. It always seemed ironic to me that those who might be responsible think somehow they will escape death. Even if they could escape, what kind of fools would want to remain alive with nothing but death all around them?

      So many of the movies and books in the past are coming true.


  41. emet says:

    People eat a lot of snakes in China. In Taiwan too. For hundreds of years in fact. I’ve eaten them in Taiwan in the 70s. In soup, snake blood cocktails, etc. The snake gall bladder was in particular demand. But…no epidemics. I’m going with the theory somebody was exposed in a lab.
    The other problem is a lot of Chinese will not go to a regular doctor. They prefer an herbalist/traditional practitioner, so they are not getting a screening. Also, in China you can just go to a pharmacist and describe your symptoms, he will make up the prescription he feels is appropriate. A lot of people do this. Again, no screening.
    In short, this is a disaster in the making.

    Liked by 2 people

    • jrapdx says:

      The source of such mutated viruses is likely creatures much more closely related to humans than snakes happen to be. “Barnyard” animals have been implicated in past outbreaks probably due to shared environments and close proximity to humans.

      Isolation from nature in our hyper-sanitized world may not be ideal from some perspectives. OTOH too much intimacy with domesticated livestock appears to be hazardous. Exercising the good sense to separate livestock and our living quarters has a lot going for it.


    • noswamp says:

      Emet, I have eaten my fair share of snakes in Taiwan and China. (No bats). No virus here. That is because for you to catch this virus someone must have dropped something biological in the hot soup you are drinking but the heat would kill the virus, obviously depending on the situation. Freshly made snake soup, low chance of virus. Very low. Snake soup left out for a while, chances increases for virus.

      So this virus coming from a market or from eating snake or bat soup, I can’t see it. Must be a lab in Wuhan. No other explanation. Why? The MASSIVE reaction from the Chinese government.


  42. Ross Newland says:

    The Chinese virologist Guan Yi mentioned in the article below, is highly respected in his field.


    “A bigger outbreak is certain,” said Guan Yi, a virologist who helped identify severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in 2003. He estimated — “conservatively,” he said — that this outbreak could be 10 times bigger than the SARS epidemic because that virus was transmitted by only a few “super spreaders” in a more defined part of the country.

    “We have passed through the ‘golden period’ for prevention and control,” he told Caixin magazine from self-imposed quarantine after visiting Wuhan. “What’s more, we’ve got the holiday traffic rush and a dereliction of duty from certain officials.”

    …As the uncertainty continued, Guan, the virologist who identified SARS, offered a chilling perspective on the outbreak.

    “I’ve seen it all: bird flu, SARS, influenza A, swine fever and the rest. But the Wuhan pneumonia makes me feel extremely powerless,” he told Caixin. “Most of the past epidemics were controllable, but this time, I’m petrified.”


  43. Marie Avante says:

    The CDC identified the first case in the U.S. two days ago in Seattle, Washington—not in Texas, as this article incorrectly claims. This should be fixed. Here are the original news reports from 22 January about the Seattle case:

    CDC Confirms Coronavirus Case In Seattle

    CDC confirms first U.S. case of China coronavirus


  44. Ross Newland says:

    Treepers…if this spreads internationally, here is essential information you’ll want to know.

    This nugget was buried in yesterday’s WHO’s statement about this virus:
    “Human-to-human transmission is occurring and a preliminary R0 estimate of 1.4-2.5 was presented. Amplification has occurred in one health care facility. Of confirmed cases, 25% are reported to be severe.”

    Now…the term “R0” [R-zero] is a number used to designate the contagiousness of a pathogen. R2 means that one infected person will likely infect another 2 people.

    An R0 of 1.4-2.5 thus means that 10 infected people will likely infect another 14-25 people.

    Let that sink in for a minute. This is an easily spread virus.

    What we don’t know yet, is if young adults don’t get as sick as elderly, chronically ill, or young children, would they constitute “quiet” virus carriers (in a relative sense). There just hasn’t been enough screening yet to determine if that might be so. Something to watch out for.

    The WHO statement from yesterday is here:

    And a few additional details about R0 can be found here:

    Sure hope and pray this does not spread much outside of affected areas of China, because it sure seems to have gone past critical mass over there.


  45. Jimmy Jack says:

    So, the Chinese stole a biological weapon from Canada and either released it on their own population to test it out or have accidentally realeased biowarfare on their own population. Nothing about this surprises me.

    That said, I don’t see any reason to panic. All Treepers should be prepared at any time to hunker down if necessary anyway. This is no exception.


  46. emet says:

    Another serious problem is that CBP at international airports has moved dramatically to less stringent screening of passengers. Staff is far too inadequate, and officers have been replaced with automated kiosks like Global Entry, or mobile app. This means many passengers are not looked at or interviewed. The Customs declaration was eliminated a year or so ago. Flights cannot generally be segregated. There may be multiple flights simultaneously discharging into the Customs area. Worse, supervisors are punished if flights take too long to clear (red flights). So there is a disincentive to actually look for problems. In short, we are vulnerable in the extreme.

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    • noswamp says:

      Between this and the CDC saying that right now Americans are “low risk” (as Chinese flights pour into our country and Seattle) I wonder what they hell they are thinking. They have to know that China is under reporting this virus by a factor of 10 or more. Seattle in particular cites “low risk” of this spreading to other Americans despite the first case being in Seattle. They are nuts.


  47. A2 says:

    I was there when SARS hit Hong Kong. The biggest obstacle to containing the epidemic, then pandemic, was The PRC refusal to share information, classifying it as ‘State Secrets’.

    We all knew it escaped from a LAB IN Beijing, that subsequently has been confirmed since 2003.

    Again, another LAB escape in Wuhan. Where they tout high level security. Nonsense.

    The blaming of snakes and bats is more of the same same. This was lab produced.

    Another cluster F***K from the PRC. I know , I was there and involved.

    The DM has an excellent timeline.

    ‘ China built a lab to study SARS and Ebola in Wuhan – and US biosafety experts warned in 2017 that a virus could ‘escape’ the facility that’s become key in fighting the outbreak
    The Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory is the only lab in China designated for studying dangerous pathogens like SARS and Ebola
    Ahead of its January 2018 opening, biosafety experts and scientists from the US expressed concerns that a virus could escape the lab
    In 2004, a SARS virus ‘leaked’ from a lab in Beijing
    Experts say the coronavirus that’s infected more than 800 people mutated in animals and became capable of infecting humans at the Wuhan seafood market
    But a 2017 article warned of the unpredictability of lab animals that scientists at the Wuhan lab intended to inject with viruses ’

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  48. USNpatriot says:

    There has been 1 or 2 reported cases in Hong Kong so far. Could this have been released against the protesters there to quell the uprising? Mass amounts of people in close quarters would be a prime opportunity to dispersing (and thinning) the crowds. And when the protests fall apart, due to fear of catching it and fewer people showing up, China can swoop in and finish their takeover with little resistance. This is exactly what the Chinese government would do in the current situation. No?


    • DebbieSemms says:

      After reading some of these comments I feel like handing out some tin foil hats.
      This is not “bio warfare”.


      • A2 says:

        How do you know? It is plausible that the SARS outbreak came from a PLA LAB IN Beijing. Bio warfare or searching for a cure to the common cold. Doesn’t matter. The fact that these experiments escaped from the lab. The same MO from Wuhan labs.


      • bopbottle says:

        I don’t think we know enough yet and China isn’t exactly open about what goes on in their country. It certainly is important to stay on top of it regardless of the origin.


      • noswamp says:

        I agree with the part you said about it not being bio warfare. If it were a weaponized virus, there would be an antidote. From my limited knowledge of how this works, there must be a feeder virus for the weaponization to derive from. Seems to me this is what we are dealing with. Hopefully we have a vaccine soon.


    • A2 says:

      I went to the dentist yesterday. Masks were handed out. My temperature was taken. Hong Kong, with its experience of SARS and the PRC cover-up will not be caught off guard again.

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      • USNpatriot says:

        Thanks for the reply above. I don’t feel this is conspiracy territory at all. China officials are walking on egg shells with the situation in Hong Kong and the US trade deal. They don’t dare make big moves against the protestors as to not upset the apple cart. Doing something like this would insulate the ChiCom from direct responsibility and still accomplish their stated goals. This is the type of thing the Chinese gov is known for, as you say, their MO, and has been for a long time. Anyone thinking tinfoil hats are needed, are either not well informed or playing the fool.

        Stay safe out there.


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