Sketchy Changes to IG FISA Report Cover-Up Major Discrepancy in First Version…

There was a major discrepancy in the Inspector General report on FISA abuse, that appears to have been overlooked and casts a considerable cloud upon the DOJ Office of Inspector General and Michael Horowitz.

In chapter ten of the report, on page #312 you will find the following information.  The claim is that no-one in the FBI initiated any use of “Confidential Human Sources” into the campaign prior to opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.  Read Carefully:

(Page #312 – pdf link)

“In our review, we did not find any evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.”…

However, in the very next chapter (#11, page #400), in the original IG report as released on December 9th, 2019, you will find the following statement:

(Page #400 – pdf link)

The two statements are completely contradictory.

Carter Page and George Papadopoulos started working for the Trump campaign in early March 2016.  The Crossfire Hurricane investigation began on July 28th, 2016.

If the FBI tasked CHS’s before and after they were affiliated with the Trump campaign, that was certainly before the opening of Crossfire Hurricane.   That statement was also included in the original Executive Summary (page xvi) as below:

The IG report was modified after publication to change this paragraph to:

“We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team tasked several CHSs and UCEs during the 2016 presidential campaign, which resulted in multiple interactions with Carter Page and Papadopoulos, both during and after the time they were affiliated with the Trump campaign”…

However, that still presents an issue with this statement:

“In our review, we did not find any evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.  All of the members of the Crossfire Hurricane team told the OIG that no investigative steps of any type were taken prior to receipt of the predicating information for the Crossfire Hurricane investigation on July 28, 2016, and we found no evidence to the contrary.

If no investigative steps “of any type” were taken prior to July 28th, 2016, then how does George Papadopoulos run afoul of meeting(s) being monitored in March 2016 with the “overseas professor” Joseph Mifsud (DOJ Statement of Offense – Papadopoulos):

Indeed the original IG report text would indicate that George Papadopoulos was subject to Confidential Human Sources (CHS’s) and/or Undercover Employees (UCE’s) during the earliest part of his activity with the Trump campaign (literally within a week), and would refute the claim “we did not find any evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation” (July 31st, 2016).

That revelation and conflict is likely why the IG had to modify the text of the report after publishing it.

By modifying the language to “during and after“, the tasks against Papadopoulos could be somewhat reconciled…. so long as the IG report also stated that Mifsud was not a tasked source against Papadopoulos in March…. however, how did the DOJ know about the content of the conversation in order to use it against Papadopoulos in 2017?

The FBI sticking to the statement that: “all of the members of the Crossfire Hurricane team told the OIG that no investigative steps of any type were taken prior to receipt of the predicating information for the Crossfire Hurricane investigation on July 28, 2016” is a very strong motive to bury Maltese Professor Joseph Mifsud.

Is that why Mifsud was disappeared?

Was Mifsud disappeared because the DOJ and FBI needed to cover-up the use of any CHS prior to the official opening of Crossfire Hurricane on July 31st?

Is that why Mifsud went into hiding?

Is that why Mifsud recorded a police statement with his attorney before he went into hiding?

Is that why AG Bill Barr and U.S. Attorney John Durham went to listen to that recording?

Keep in mind this is AG Bill Barr’s DOJ inspector general now saying no CHS’s were used prior to the opening of Crossfire Hurricane.

Is that why U.S. Attorney John Durham said:

“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department.

Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”(link)

Was the original IG report correct when it said twice that: “we determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team tasked several CHSs and UCEs during the 2016 presidential campaign, which resulted in multiple interactions with Carter Page and Papadopoulos, both before and after the time they were affiliated with the Trump campaign” ?

It seems unlikely a mistake of that importance, on a key and very specific issue, could be made twice in an heavily reviewed inspector general report.  However, if the IG didn’t change the text then this statement would be a lie:

The FBI wouldn’t try to lie and cover-up to protect themselves right?

Right?

Boy, if the FBI is lying to the IG about predictation that would put Durham and Barr in a precarious position.

Preserve the institution, or highlight that FBI leadership have lied?

Is that why FBI Agent SSA-1, Joseph Pientka, the primary culprit in this mess, was shipped to San Francisco and then scrubbed?

I mean we’re putting a ton of ‘hope’ on the moral character of John Durham and Bill Barr to tell the truth here…. and there are clear and present signals the current FBI backstory is full of lies, bigger than what is currently known.

Joseph Mifsud is the key.  No surprise he disappeared.

What would the intelligence community, especially the CIA and FBI, do to retain their lies?

Unfortunately, I think we all know the answers to most of those questions.

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I think what we don’t see happening is shouting at us….

….the question is: are we brave enough to hear the silence.

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392 Responses to Sketchy Changes to IG FISA Report Cover-Up Major Discrepancy in First Version…

  1. mr.piddles says:

    Question: isn’t it a matter of PUBLIC RECORD at this point that Strzok and some female undercover FBI agent were in London in May 2016 to coordinate activities? Don’t we ALREADY KNOW that (IIRC) the female FBI agent had direct contact with PapaD in May 2016? What the hell am I missing here???

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/390228-london-bridges-falling-down-curious-origins-of-fbis-trump-russia-probe

    “It originated earlier, 1,700 miles away in London, where foreign figures contacted Trump campaign advisers and provided the FBI with hearsay allegations of Trump-Russia collusion, bureau documents and interviews of government insiders reveal. These contacts in spring 2016 — some from trusted intelligence sources, others from Hillary Clinton supporters — occurred well before FBI headquarters authorized an official counterintelligence investigation on July 31, 2016.”
    […]
    According to documents and government interviews, one of the FBI’s most senior counterintelligence agents visited London the first week of May 2016. Congress never got the FBI to explain that trip — but, soon after it, one of the most consequential moments of the scandal occurred: On May 10, Australian diplomat Alexander Downer met in a London bar with Trump adviser George Papadopoulos, who boasted of knowing that Russia would release dirt on Clinton.”

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    • J.Thomas says:

      I am of the opinion that Mifsud was just one of a cast of characters organized through Hakluyt or other private intelligence services in Britain and that it is likely that Hakluyt was contracted through Perkins Coie through Fusion GPS (that’s where Steele comes in…he’s the Hakluyt face put on the Fusion pig). It’s a decent bet that Mifsud was contracted by Hakluyt.

      Fusion GPS has fiercely guarded their bank records from congress. Pull that thread and the thing comes apart…I think there’s a Hakluyt payment in there. DNC>Perkins Coie>Fusion GPS>Hakluyt. Hakluyt pulled strings and ran things in Britain, Fusion GPS did the same in the US.

      Remember, Devin Nunes said that none of this came through official intelligence channels. It’s all privately contracted by the DNC.

      This was coordinated activity with these private groups (Fusion and Hakluyt), NGO’s (Soros Groups, Podesta, etc), the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, the State Department, the NSD, etc.

      Eventually these private groups were picked up and contracted by the CIA or the FBI and the same people were run by US services. The ONET payment to Halper is the trace there.

      There has to be a brain trust here. I think that it’s above Brennan and Clapper, and that it took place behind the walls of 700 13th Street, NW in DC…In Perkins Coie’s offices. Have there been any DNC-coordinated meetings including members of the Obama administration, the DNC, and Fusion GPS there or at other Perkins Coie offices?

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      • J.Thomas says:

        I should also add that I think that it’s pretty clear that the “private contractors” accessing the NSA database (and rebuked by the 4/2016 702 “About” query FISA review) were likely producing raw data for use as opposition research against the Trump people. It’s highly likely that these private contractors include a DNC cut out like Fusion GPS or an intermediary of theirs.

        This could be why internet rumor is included in the dossier…it may have been sucked up through the NSA queries by these contractors and not vetted.

        This looks like a mickey mouse operation…a very powerful and connected mickey mouse operation. An operation to continue the attempt to use law enforcement powers to destroy Trump.

        1. They violated law to get information – utilized the NSA search procedures on US citizens without authorization (for political purposes)
        2. Admiral Rogers didn’t want to play that game with them anymore so he bails and informs Trump that they have moved to wiretapping his offices
        3. they’re left with a bunch of unverified/unvetted garbage (what they have described as RAW INTELLIGENCE) that has essentially been pulled from the NSA database
        4. They contract a private spy network in Britain so that they can utilize the FARA law to open FISAs that can then be used in US courts
        5. They struggle to throw together a decent case for FISA (denied at least once), so they burn one of their own (Carter Page) to get it.
        6. The FISA produces only exculpatory evidence, so they fenagle a scheme to use the Special Counsel appointment to spring “obstruction” trap.
        7. Trump doesn’t bite on obstruction, so they move to using intelligence assets in the NSD to forge whistleblower complaints for impeachment

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        • TarsTarkas says:

          Sounds like a good summing up. They were so crude and amateurish because they never encountered a victim before who wouldn’t fold up at the least sign of IC pressure.

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          • mopar2016 says:

            “Confidential human Sources” and “Undercover Employees”.
            Code words for Spies. And zero accountability.

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            • TPW says:

              Related and personal experience …I sent a personal message on the White House website….it concerned the Opioid “crisis” and innocent people and Physicians being caught up….wrongfully …..in this government sweep to control the amount of pain meds prescribed. Next day I am getting emails on substance abuse……never have received those sort of emails. Nothing you do on the internet is private…You would think the WH website is secure…..but no,,,

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              • Dutchman says:

                Heck, I text message a friend, he tells me he bought a kit, metal buildinf.
                For next two weeks, I get ads for metal buildings.
                Its our ‘data’, that I-net companies mine and sell. Trillions of $ in advertising revenue DEPENDS on them being able to mine and market our data

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            • Mopar2016:
              The Google Mussolini-look-alike figure is quite comical as he wears his GOGGLES!
              Maybe Google should really be called GOGGLE!

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        • stripmallgrackle says:

          That’s the show, so far. Good synopsis. Next up: classify evidence which the defense needs in the upcoming second act in the Senate, Unless somebody has a better idea, recycle Russian hacker narrative to do so.

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          • J.Thomas says:

            Going back to the Collusion Hoax well reeks of desperation to me. This is their last hope.

            Next step for them is brute force and physical destruction. Trump and the Deplorables have proven to be an adversary that they haven’t been able to shake. They have been a thorn in the side of the deep state since Dubya. The Obama administration tried to destroy them with the IRS, EPA, DEA, FBI, CIA, NSA…just about every arm of government was turned into a weapon to destroy regular Americans who got in the way of their globalist social justice movement. Now here we are…the People have a champion fighting against these jackals in the ring, and that champion is not only surviving, but having some success at taking the world they made (at the expense of the people) apart.

            Trump is going to be destroyed, folks. If not through the abuse of power, then by covert action.

            Remember this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/theater/donald-trump-julius-caesar-public-theater-oskar-eustis.html

            That was a call to action for them.

            This is real, people. Wake up.

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            • TarsTarkas says:

              Recall that Julius Caesar was faced with that situation earlier. When he had to decide whether to cross the Rubicon at the head of his legion or not. The former meant he was in rebellion against the state led by enemies sworn to destroy him, the latter was to allow himself to be slaughtered along with his followers. His mistake after winning was to try and work within the existing power structure without first eradicating forgiven and potential enemies. His adopted son and successor Octavian didn’t make that mistake.

              I hope we are not seeing a repeat of the final downfall of the Roman Republic. Because the proscriptions of Marc Antony and Octavian were very bloody and very nasty. And the struggle didn’t end with them either. And the end result was a arbitrary tyranny. Not a country I’d be happy to live in.

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              • stripmallgrackle says:

                Both Caesar and Cicero fell to the assassin’s knife. Both were reformers. Cicero, in particular, was quite outspoken about the hypocrisies of the ruling class. Don’t doubt that the same solution to Trump has been discussed behind closed doors.

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                • stripmallgrackle says:

                  That some of the same people who helped assemble the ICA back in the earliest days have some thoughts on this topic goes without saying.

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                • Raptors2020 says:

                  Stripmall:
                  Nancy Pelosi said on ABC this past Sunday that “one way or another” Trump won’t be President in ten months.

                  The Democrats and the bureaucracy have discussed violence at length. That has to be one of the main things being covered up by Wray and the rest.

                  I shudder at the violence to come at Trump rallies from Antifa and others. Check out Kyle Jurek’s remarks yesterday. Violence is their answer.

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        • mark says:

          JT, if ” Wiretapping ” was used I believe a Title 3 search warrant before a Judge is needed. I could be wrong but I remember reading about a 20 year FBI retiree who stated in his article that FISA and Title 3 warrants are very different.

          He stated that FISA warrant is (my words) easier to get than a Title 3 warrant. My thinking is because foreign people don’t have 4 amendment rights and I could be wrong about that.

          My point, if President Trump was wiretapped whoever did it needed a Title 3 warrant and would have had to go through a Judge to get one. Otherwise they broke the law.

          Any help out there lurking lawyers?

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      • JOHN B FURY says:

        You get a subpoena!
        You get a subpoena!
        You get a subpoena!

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    • Publius2016 says:

      Remember Vault 7? Deep State planted evidence on 45 but was caught and exposed! not rocket science…this was an old fashioned mob frame up…45 and his Team of Patriots are fighting everyday for MAGA and now, KAG!!!

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    • Redzone says:

      1. Crossfire Hurricane Team lied to the OIG.
      2. OIG lied in it’s report about the evidence it found.

      If Barr’s goal is to protect the Institution of the FBI, it’s really not that difficult. Simply charge everyone that lacked candor with lying. Also, either charge the OIG with misrepresenting the facts or dismiss him for cause. Interview and require all investigators to take a lie detector test regarding their role in the process and deal with them accordingly.

      That is how to protect the Institution.

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  2. litlbit2 says:

    Thanks AGAIN Sundance, seems each time this report is read something else pops out as Horowitz must have forgot he read, “Summary: The FISA court identified and quantified tens-of-thousands of search queries of the NSA/FBI database using the FISA-702(16)(17) system.“

    However for me the Barr Foreign visit with Durham to listen to the Mifsud tape confirms that this is nothing but a huge scrubbing mission. It does actually take time to tune a Bagpipe! The smallest leaks must be forever plugged in order to get the perfect tune. To date Pinocchio has a Pinocchio problem.

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      What was Durham ‘scrubbing’ when he publicly disagreed with IG Horowitz’s conclusion on the predicate for opening the investigation?

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      • litlbit2 says:

        I have no idea. Better question, why did he comment? Why did it take both Barr and Durham to hear “the tape”. If Barr read the Horowitz saga why did it take Sundance to expose the “lie”? Why has it been three years plus, millions spent etc and we all are relying on Durham the last man standing? IMO, not about protecting the agency, it is a way of life for many, corruption, if exposed would starve to death. Oh God how I hope I am so wrong. News at 10

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        • ms doodlebug says:

          Do you think maybe he commented because IG Horowitz said the predicate was legit when he, Durham, knows it was not legit?

          Why shouldn’t both Durham and AG Barr listen to “the tape”? What makes you think Sundance is the only one to notice ‘one’ of the discrepancies in the Horowitz report?

          Where we probably agree is that both are trying to save the institution. But at the same time corruption has been exposed and must be addressed. It’s a fine line they walk. Personally, I don’t believe the FBI is corrupt from top to bottom. I believe the Obama era leadership was corrupt and that it bled down to corrupt underlings, some, maybe many, of whom are still in position. But no one is going to convince me that all 35,000 employees of the FBI are corrupt. It’s still a vital agency for law enforcement.

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          • Victor Laszlo says:

            The corruption is older than obozo. 9/11 is what woke me up to this.

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              That’s true. It still doesn’t make all 35,000 agents and employees corrupt. And it doesn’t change the fact that it was during the Obama admin that it was used – by the leadership – in an effort to prevent and then overturn our votes.

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              • Dutchman says:

                Policies and procedures, are something we generally don’t pay much attention to, but are vital in shaping or reshaping an organisation.
                When Mueller became FBI Director, under BUSH, he implemented “5 and out” I believe it was called. A field agent after 5 years was required to come in and work at the DC main.
                This had the effect of driving out many good, experienced field agents, who didn’t want to uproot families, etc.

                It also meant the main office could ‘screen’ for likemindedness, and even ‘progam’ or swampify agents, before sending them back out in field.

                Reshaping the FBI, and we all know the kind of,…creatures inhabiting themain office.

                Similar to what Obama did to the upper levels of the Military

                So yeah, the Agent in Charge of each field office could have been selected.

                They run the office, everyone under them, comprising much of the 35,000, work for them, and follow orders.

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                • ms doodlebug says:

                  That brings to mind “A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still”. The vast majority of the 35,000 agents and employees were not involved in the attempted coup or even had knowledge that it was in progress. That was, in reality, a relatively very small group in upper management positions.

                  Yet, we are to assume all FBI agents are guilty of wrong-doing? They are all just programmed robots with no minds or integrity of their own? I think we would have learned of it long ago if that was true.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  Well, if you have read louis ghomerts excellent op-ed on Mueller, you know Mueller has been anything BUT an “honorable man”, his whole LE, government career.
                  He had a 10 year term as director, plus,IIRC an extension.
                  Worked Bush and Obama.

                  Placed his protege, the also not honorable Comey as his successor, to continue his,…’work’.

                  They promoted sociopaths like McCabe and Stroxz to high positions, just under them.

                  And every field agent (or is it station chief, I’m frankly not sure) went thru vetting by these,…people.

                  The vast majority aren’t ‘read in’, they just do their work.

                  For instance, the geniuses at HQ decide “We need to justify FISA, even though we,are using it for POLITICAL spying.

                  So, the word goes out to a vetted station chief; Bust us,some ‘terrorists’. No explantion why.

                  They use NSA data to find a CI;
                  a muslim, ‘prominent’ in the local muslim community, who has a point of leverage.
                  Immigration problem for him or relative, tax problem, perhaps something hinky with food stamps he’s taking in in his business,…whatever.

                  They confront him, and say, in effect, “If you help us find and bust a potential terrorist, all this goes away.”

                  ” Hmmmm,….I know a guy! A hothead, if I stir him up, he’ll sound off about how pissed off he is.!”
                  They handle the CI, and eventually bust the,target for agreeing to blow up Statue of liberty, with explosives the CI says he’ll pay for, supplied by, of coarse undercover FBI.

                  THEY get a bust, in the papers.
                  “SEE, …THIS is us using these extrodinary powers, to keep Americans SAFE!”

                  The station chief, and maybe 1-2 agents know they basically entrapped this poor schlub hothead, who never, ON HIS OWN, would have done more than vent.

                  It doesn’t take ALL 35,000 if you have rot at the top, and it spreds downward.

                  The 5 and out got rid of experienced station chiefs, who might have balked at such orders from HQ.

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                • ms doodlebug says:

                  I like your description. But of course there’s a but. “It doesn’t take all 35,000…” is my point exactly.

                  This coup started at the top, went down a few levels, was aided by certain people in Congress – with relatively few of the agents and employees of the FBI involved or even aware of what was occurring. That calls for prosecution of those involved, not punishment of those who were not involved.

                  Imo, it’s the FISC that should be shut down. I also think IGs should not ‘belong’ to agencies. They should be truly independent investigators under independent jurisdiction, maybe even with prosecutorial authority. We also need serious oversight of both the House and Senate – and prosecution when they cross the line into criminal activities. Frankly, it is BS that the only way to get rid of corrupt Representatives and Senators is by voting them out of office.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  CONgress, to me at least, seems to be at the heart or center of all of the evil we see in the Swamp.

                  And its really NOT 100 Senators, and 435 Congressman,….its 4.
                  House and,Senate majority and minority leaders have absolute control over what happens.

                  They detirmine individual Senators and Congressmans office location and,size, staff, committe assignments, and so much more.

                  Why would those four people oppose each other (Dem vs Rep) when they can have so much more power by cooperating?

                  They, not the POTUS, control the administrative State. And, they control the Judiciary, thru appointments, the threat of impeachment, and quite possibly blackmail, generated by IC, also part of the,Administrative State.

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                • ms doodlebug says:

                  I am so happy to see someone else knows Congress is at the center of all the evil we see in the swamp! Unfortunately for our country they are each elected locally with no national control over them even though they make decisions that affect us nationally.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  We are in an era of extreme flux. Change. And since the escalator ride, …positive changes.
                  Anything is possible, even that this will change.

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                • ms doodlebug says:

                  We wanted change and change is always chaotic especially when there are those who want to cling to the status quo. It’s somewhat amusing that those who resist change the most call themselves progressives.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  Actually, its very consistent; they accuse others of what THEY are guilty of, and are the ‘bitter clingers’ who call themselves progressives, when they want to take us back to fuedalism.

                  Ironic, yes. Amusing,…sometimes if it wasn’t so darn serious!

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          • litlbit2 says:

            Do not know why Durham had to comment? Horowitz is not punished and Durham was not lifted therefore still see no reason.

            Sundance may/may not be the only one. However the report did not come out yesterday. Does not take calculus to add up the number of folks exposing it. Again why Durham?

            I never said the complete FBI is corrupt. Not true, proven by we having two sets of law enforcement, there’s and ours.

            Just as a contaminated bread recipe is very difficult to correct for most, we throw it out and start over with new knowledge and a better process.

            This corruption goes at least back to 2012 and with the exception of President Trump everyone just one big happy family writing dossiers for the MSM news hour.

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              Everyone is a big word that includes ‘everyone’. Obviously, not everyone is corrupt, but hey, throw it all out. And while 35,000 agents and employees are being replaced, who is there to start over with new knowledge and a better process? Horowitz is not punished – for reporting that he had no documentation and no one confessed to him there was no predicate for the investigation? Durham speaks up and says he doesn’t agree there was a valid predicate – based on ‘his’ criminal investigation, not on ‘Horowitz’s’ investigation.

              Two different investigations with two different purposes and accessibility to different witnesses and information. One with prosecutorial power and the other without…

              Horowitz did, however, refer a number of individuals for investigation and possible prosecution.

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          • Super Elite says:

            Have to disagree with you on the “don’t believe the FBI is corrupt from top to bottom”. It only takes a little strychnine in a 7-Up to corrupt the whole soda pop.

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            • litlbit2 says:

              Agree, as I posted earlier, did not say FBI is corrupt. But as in your example of 7up, most would throw out the can and start over. Very difficult to cull out contaminated items. Then you need to determine who picks, who goes as well as the one doing the picking.

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            • mopar2016 says:

              Take a glass of dirty water and mix it with a glass of clean water.
              Now how much clean water do you end up with?

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            • Super Elite says:

              Maybe I should clarify the whole culture becoming corrupt. This is how it happens: there are some criminal FBI agents doing criminal things. The rest of the agents are not stupid. Actually they are lawyers. The rest of the agents fail to report the criminal activity thereby becoming accessories to the crooked agents. You know the drill.

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              • ms doodlebug says:

                I think you’re referring to the leadership. Not all FBI agents are lawyers. They do not all have unlimited access to classified documents. Nor did they all know of the leadership corruption. That was closely held and classified above the pay grade of almost all agents.

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              If that was true there would be no ‘Trump Supporters’ in the FBI as Horowitz reported and Hillary would be Madame President. Truth is we don’t all drink from the same bottle.

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              • Super Elite says:

                The “innocents” should bring their bottle to the table and show us what’s in it.

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                • Super Elite says:

                  Actually it would do little good for the “innocents” to prove their innocence. They had to know the company culture was corrupt. Just look at Comey. Would you work for a man and in a subculture that had that sort of person as their leader? Isn’t there something about birds of the feather flocking together.

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          • Green Bucket says:

            If there were honest agents in any of the alphabet spy agencies, this would not be happening. They would have tried to stop it.

            Instead, they are ALL in on it and every single one of them are 100% corrupt down to the last secretary and janitor.

            No, burn it all to the ground and don’t start over

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              Oh sure. They sent out a memo to all 35,000 agents and employees – “Hey guys! Just wanted you to know we’re actively working to overturn the 2016 election. Just don’t tell anyone.”

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              That 35,000, btw, only refers to the FBI. Then there are the thousands upon thousands more to add to that number who are working with all the other alphabet agencies.

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              • litlbit2 says:

                Right again from larger numbers, hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, think I heard that somewhere else……PP

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                • ms doodlebug says:

                  There are a couple of alternatives. There’s the hear nothing but evil, see nothing but evil, and speak of nothing but evil.

                  Then there are those who hear the evil but also hear the good, who see the evil but also see the good, and who speak of both good and evil.

                  I feel blessed that while I hear and see the evil I also hear and see the good.

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  3. …and all because of Cruella deBill’s unbridled power-lust to be the First Jezebel-American president.

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    • John Obidienzo says:

      The Silence in the Sundance example = McCabe not being prosecuted for lying [Under Oath]. Meanwhile, the President is impeached and the Trial to remove him begins next week.

      Through his wife’s democrat financed run for office in Virginia, McCabe’s connection to the Clinton’s is more palpable than any of the bad actors in this cabal. A McCabe indictment would certainly threaten the aerie. Not to go after him protects the institution, which is protecting the aerie.

      Consider for a moment that Hunter Biden was the poor man’s version of the Clinton Foundation. If father and son were able to swindle a few billion, imagine what the Clinton’s were doing and were capable of doing had they got back into the White House. Donald Trump and we the people stopped them cold. It’s why we are where we are today.

      I can only describe where we are today in scatological terms. The democrat ass-quake-ing House took a dump on the Constitution, passes the feces off as valid articles of impeachment, then it leaves the crap at the doorstep of the Senate where the sh*t eaters there grin–‘it is our dooty to accept the foul-smelling turds.’ Stink stank stunk! The Capitol stinks like an Outhouse that is ripe for the bulldozer.

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  4. “There is no evidence of an occurrence…”

    “We found no evidence of an occurrence…”

    “The occurrence cited, did not happen…”

    Parsing language has become a necessity in our world. We see you!

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    • Parker Longbaugh says:

      Lamp posts and rope are unambiguous. I vote for there use.

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    • vikingmom says:

      “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.”

      When people work so hard to parse their words it is usually because they are guilty and are trying to deflect the question asked and instead answer a different one that will somehow change the narrative.

      One of the main reasons for Donald Trump’s success is that he speaks plainly! He says what he thinks and he gives specific answers to the questions that are asked of him. People in heartland America recognize this and appreciate it. People in DC and the MSM have no experience with this and it terrifies them!!

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  5. Woodworker says:

    In the words of the Great Coup Plotter and Traitor to our Country, James Comey, soon, I fear, to be repeated by John Durham, supported by Bill Barr: although mistakes were made… “our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case”… against these Treasonous Coup Plotters. However, we would like to re-assure the public, action is underway to revise and modify our policies and procedures to include additional and appropriate training of personnel, as needed, to prevent this from happening in the future….bla, bla, bla, bla, bla.

    And so it continues. Cover up the cover up. Considering all of the coverup, and non-prosecution, the last 4 years I have little hope there will be any accountability, at all. Not even McCabe who clearly Lied 4 different times, as documented in the IG Report a year & a half ago, has not even been charged with a crime, when by now, he should already be serving, at least, 20 years in federal prison. There is NO justice in America when political investigations and prosecutions for made up and entrapment crimes (i.e. Gates, Manafort, Cohen, Flynn, Papadopoulos, etc.) are conducted, while democrats (progressives/liberals) who have actually committed the crimes aren’t investigated at all and get off scot-free.

    With all of the factual, documented, irrefutable information and evidence now out and available for ALL to see how corrupt the Democrats are, in general, and the DOJ, FBI and IC directly and specifically, how is the corruption that has taken place by the Democrats, even being debated? I hope I’m wrong about Durham and Barr, and instead of protecting the Deep State Bureaucracy, they prosecute the hell out of them (including Congressmen and Senators that have been involved) for their Treasonous Coup Plot against Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. At best there will probably be a few (1,2, or 3) small fry guys that get burned & jailed to appease the masses that, Justice was served. Now move along please and let us get back to work doing what we do best, serve the Deep State Bureaucracy.

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    • Jederman says:

      It’s probably prudent at this point to assume durham/barr will not take on the DS. Barr, as he did with Epstein, will acknowledge suspicious behavior, mistakes and lack of candor, but hey, stuff happens… .

      Despite the overwhelming evidence of the first (well documented) coup attempt in U.S. history the perps will likely skate.

      If/when that occurs we should SERIOUSLY ask ourselves what is the point in having the 2020 election. If the dems/Left/socialist only want to play when they win and will abuse their positions of power in the bureaucracy to “resist” when they lose, why should we play that game?

      Half the country knows the doj/fbi is corrupt to the core. Every other person on the planet except Wray understands that you recover credibility by admitting the crimes openly and punishing accordingly THEN making policy changes to ensure they don’t happen again.

      Everything we’ve seen, the appointment of Kris is another recent example, indicates the DS is dug in and nobody has the stones to take them on.

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      • bofh says:

        Given the frustration that we all feel from the constant, ongoing demonstrations of the corruption of the US government, can you imagine what it feels like to be PDJT? And we surely know only a fraction of what he knew or has subsequently learned.

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    • Camouflage_Pandemonium says:

      I’ve never prayed harder for a President and patriots everywhere than I have these past few years, but the last few months have been difficult. Trump can’t do this on his own, and I am increasingly dismayed with Barr and the rest of Washington.
      Heck, I wanted to believe in Q when he said stuff like ‘trust Sessions’ and he raved about Huber and his 470 special prosecutors, but I am increasingly concerned that I’ve been listening to a psyop all this time.
      I understand I don’t know it all, and that there are many things that can’t be revealed to the public. The problem is, I’m beginning to wonder if I don’t know what I don’t know.

      I also recognize that doing something majorly overt right now could cause huge problems because of the division in this country. I also see that it could hurt Trump’s chances in 2020.
      I know the rabbit hole is deep; deeper than I could ever imagine. And I understand the problems with our country run generations long.
      I’m not saying I quit, and I won’t continue to pray for Trump and the country, but it’s getting tougher to hold on. I know we’re all in this together, and I will not give up or give in.
      It’s just getting tougher. I know I wasn’t promised a rose garden, but still … it’s getting tougher.

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      • vikingmom says:

        Well said! I think a lot of us feel the same way…not trying to be a downer but just a realist.

        This is more complex and more insidious than even those of us who have been paying attention could have fathomed and we have had our hopes dashed too many times before.

        I continue to pray for the WHOLE truth to be revealed but I admit that I expect that to happen less and less with each new revelation of corruption.

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        • Dennis says:

          Don’t worry, the Truth will be revealed:
          Ecc 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

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      • CA M says:

        Agreed. The problem is the two-tiered system of justice. The Deep State is completely protected and is cocky about it. The Good Guys may be regularly removing and replacing these clowns in the background, but unless some of these indictments on the books start getting opened up and people held accountable for these massive Constitutional breaches, then this “Trust The Plan” mantra will be nothing but garbage. Two years ago, I was hopeful; now I am cynical and royally pissed. The longer these people are in power, the more dangerous they become.

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      • Issy says:

        Glad you have recognized that these Trust The Plan and Q propagandist were doing. We have to face reality and deal with the facts we have. The only plan I see is Trump fighting to survive and managing to accomplish great things for America at the same time. Hang in, Trump will win.

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  6. Rich Gorman says:

    A bunch of lying traitorous plicks ! Like I will ever pay one cent more in tax dollars to support these A Wads .
    But I do want to be helpful to these plicks.
    All the ” bad boy ” findings germinate from ” a lack of candor ” at the FBI. Well Amazon is having a sale on ” candor” — 12 pounds of candor for a dollar. That fixes the lack of candor. The FBI needs to order lots of candor.
    I have some ideas on how to fix the ” lying POS ” problem also. Next time.

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  7. inspectorudy says:

    Barring a complete investigation of all FBI activities under obama, I do not see any chance for change. Wray has proven to be a member of the deep state and has no redeeming qualities as a reformer. Think about this; Barr and Durham are the shoulders on which our nation’s premier law enforcement agency rests!

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    • grumpyqs says:

      I believe “Barr and Durham are the shoulders on which our nation’s”. VERY SURVIVAL DEPENDS! It may LOOK like they won; it may FEEL like they won, but the United States of America will be walking dead; just not fallen over yet.

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    • Dave Radetsky says:

      As you say that, remember that Barr has shown absolute support for Wray. I don’t know about others here, but it makes me wonder. I will believe in Barr and Durham when I not only see indictments of the top people, but I see convictions with serious sentences, not just a slap on the wrist. In the meantime I will refrain from judging them, but I am keeping record.

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  8. OldParatrooper says:

    George Papadopoulos was convicted of lying to the FBI about when he “joined” the Trump Campaign as compared to when Mifsud informed him of the Hillary emails being held by the Russians. How many people have learned they have been selected for a job, but don’t actually start that job for weeks thereafter? Or how many people can tell you the date they started a new job last year? I know the date I retired, but couldn’t tell you the month I started without looking it up.

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    • TPW says:

      Would the “lying” about the start date and charging Papa have to do with the FBI covering up for when the spying started …….Does this tie into Sundances point?

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      • Issy says:

        I think the spying started on Trump the day he came down the escalator, but probably just NSA data. The coup plot began with the frame up of Papadopolous and the smear of General Flynn. It was probably cia and friendly agents of Britain or maybe a private group of former intel.agents. The fbi was aware and ready to roll in July 2016 and make it legal.

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  9. SYFer says:

    American political investigative journalism, thy name is Sundance. Much gratitude, sir.

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  10. larrythelogger says:

    Don’t you just love all the Republicans on the committee, sound asleep, NEVER, EVER even reading the report, let alone having a staff member, or two, or fifty, EASILY find these kinds of things then demand an answer from Horowitz? The GOP IS PART OF the coup, period and this is proof. Did you hear Ohio’s Republican, Chabot on Hannity yesterday explain that now Republicans in the House and Senate are unable to properly argue against impeachment because of Nancy Pelosi? They are already giving themselves the ridiculous, “I have a yeast infection” excuse so they can bravely fall down, roll over and soil themselves as usual and then blame their yellow spines on the Democrats.

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    • Pokey says:

      We will see who is up to their necks in corruption this year. There may be Republicans and there are sure to be Democraps and Bureaucraps. There is lots of blame to spread around, including The People, who never pay attention before they vote for these greedy politicians.

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  11. Retired USMC says:

    Well, since the rule of law is DEAD maybe it’s time for the people to start pursuing justice on our own….SCREW YOUR LAWS!

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  12. Retired USMC says:

    Well, since the rule of law is DEAD maybe it’s time for the people to start pursuing justice on our own….

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  13. Mark W says:

    Nancy Pelosi is now floating the idea that Mitch McConnell is a Russian agent, in case you were wondering how well her impeachment is going.
    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/its-flop-sweat-shes-afraid-her-corruption-will-be-exposed-for-all-to-see-pelosi-unhinged/

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    • J.Thomas says:

      This should be embarrassing to them now. If I’m a professional pundit with an ounce of self-respect, I roll my eyes and ignore this nonsense.

      If I’m McConnell, I show up to congress wearing a ushanka, pass out babushka dolls with Trump’s face on them, and address Congress in Russian. It’s time to meet their ridiculous Russia nonsense with the only thing it deserves: ridicule.

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      • zekness says:

        it’s a perfectly reasonable tactic…and it would work great. the problem with mcconnell is he has so little humor about him that really resonates. on the other hand, it would be terrific if the entire team wore the appropriate dress and launched into that fabulous russian squat dance and downed a few drams of vodka to set the tone.

        these villains need to be mocked…humiliated and fiercely denied any level of respect.

        but mostly they need to be tried for crimes against the state…as traitors and enemies of the people of the united states.

        I want to see burning effigies …I want to see public defiance and protests at their homes at their businesses and at places of work (if you can call it that).

        this must happen leading into the election at every quarter.

        and it must persist until they are kicked out of the positions of power they abuse.

        mocking is a great tactic…it must be layered with real force and action by the people who demand to deserve better.

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    • Joebkonobi says:

      Why wouldn’t she? Thus far they are getting away with everything they do. No one is being held accountable. Nothing short of declassification and true investigation of Ukraine corruption, including Biden et. al. Will stop them. . .and that does not appear to be happening.

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    • jebg46 says:

      Regurgitating the Russia Hoax, seriously?

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  14. bessie2003 says:

    Perhaps their out, or “clarification” for this clear contradiction will be that they say before the Trump campaign, singling out the individual,Trump, instead of before “any” campaign, given that both Carter and Papadapolis were involved with the Carson campaign before the date used in their report?

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  15. dcnnc says:

    This whole thing is very strange. Barr rode in hot and talked a very good game from the get-go openly admitting that spying did occur, and then appointed Durham who opened an inquiry, then they traveled to Italy and London together, and then they announced the inquiry has moved to a criminal investigation, and then they publicly announced that they didn’t agree with the IG’s findings as Barr made multiple media appearances after the IG report release to counter any narratives out there ETC.,.

    In spite of Barr and Durham’s alleged steps undertaken during the investigation, I’ve seen no physical evidence that a criminal investigation is underway, or that anybody is being held to account. I’m not hearing that Durham has dragged anybody in for questioning or issued any subpoenas. The coup team are still operating seemingly without fear of consequences, while launching operation after operation against the President right out in the open. They are PUBLICLY calling for insurrection and sedition against the President from within his cabinet on their twitter pages and lying to the dopey public on news channels (you’d think their attorneys would gag them from public speaking or tweeting if there was risk). Bruce Ohr is still at the DOJ as are many of these criminals still embedded in the government openly working against the President. They are still openly operating alongside Lawfare with impunity, while the President is marched toward impeachment, and now resurrecting the old “Russian interference” in preparation for the 2020 election.

    These two things “don’t jive together”. These people are not behaving as though they fear legal consequences of any kind or like they have any exposure to any consequences from anybody at all. Either the whole Barr/Durham thing is just political theater being created to appease and subdue the half of the public (that knows) while they 1). await impeachment or 2) POTUS to lose the next election (or at least the Senate), or 3) these are the most arrogant and dumbest criminals of all time.

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    • dcnc- great post. They are not dumb, their arrogance is well founded. They spit in our faces on a daily basis and until our President Trump came along, they got away with it.

      Still, I have no hope that Barr or Durham will do anything. They are Deep State all the way. How else did they get where they are?

      I think that hope springs eternal and all that, but I am too old not to realize what’s going on here.

      Our President is doing everything he possibly can for our Country, against incredible odds. We can see that wherever possible he is bypassing the Deep State enemies. But there’s only so much he can do with these impossible odds.

      There are not enough hours in the day for him to slay every single dragon. Meanwhile, Wray, Barr, Durham and many of the Congress Creeps continue their dirty work and subversion.

      If there is any justice, which I doubt, at least some of them will end up in a Super max prison. Sadly, with each day that goes by, it seems highly unlikely that will happen.

      God bless our President and Deplorables everywhere.

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      • Issy says:

        I really don’t think there are any fisa warrants being signed off on by the doj to spy on Trump now. That’s progress. Also, Barr is fending off allegations of illegality by Trump practically on a daily basis. I believe he is trying to run the doj legally and that’s pretty hard with all the corrupt bureaucrats there.

        I don’t know if any of these people will ever get what they deserve, but Barr seems to have put a stop to many of the attacks. The coup moved on to the congress and we see how inept they are. We have to take the small victories and appreciate them.

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        • JJ says:

          ” I believe he is trying to run the DOJ legally…”

          I disagree… if he WAS… he would have indicted Hillary, Comey, Brennan and Clapper for their PROVEN felonies and let a court decide if they should be convicted. And… Why has he not investigated the Clinton Foundation himself? Huber is a corrupt JOKE. What about the obvious criminality of the Awan filth and Wasserman-Schitz? How about the immigration crimes and marriage frauds of rep Omar? Why not a full investigation of the Biden’s obvious crimes in Ukraine? Why not subpoena the DNC server, finally, but that long-standing LIE to rest??? Selective prosecution equals corruption.
          Will anything be done before Trump’s term ends? UNLIKELY!!

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          • Issy says:

            I don’t have an answer as to why, but if you have a person in mind who will prosecute all these people, I will be all for it

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            • JJ says:

              ANY honest, non-political, unbiased prosecutor would lick their chops over a chance to prosecute those scumbags… slam-dunk convictions… unless you had a corrupt jury or judge. Sessions and Barr… crooked as a dog’s hind leg.

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        • Issy- sorry but I can’t agree with you on this one. AG Barr is the man in charge. The buck stops with him.

          He actually has the POWER to do the declassification for example, but doesn’t do it.
          And what about all the horrific abuses of process and our Constitution that are taking place under his watch? Barr has to know at least as much as Sundance yet he does little to nothing.
          Meanwhile it is HIS Justice Department that is putting the screws to Gen. Flynn, Manafort, Roger Stone, et al.
          HIS Justice Dept. that allowed Epstein to be murdered. HIS Justice Dept. that has been complicit in appointing the traitor Kris to discipline the FISA court.
          Nobody wanted Barr to be the hero more than me. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement.
          Our President Trump is like the Lone Ranger and I am getting damn sick and tired of these FU bureaucrats who get in his way.
          Barr is another Hack. It gives me no pleasure to say that either.

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          • JJ says:

            I agree that Barr is probably Deep State dirty… but your “Lone ranger” Trump is the guy who chose him… after he chose the appalling and corrupt worm Sessions… and the guy who refuses to fire the obviously corrupt Wray… the guy who supported Romney for Senate… chose Cohn, Tillerson, McMaster, Haspel, Mnuchin…Bolton… Pompeo…

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          • Issy says:

            I don’t disagree with a thing you said. I just pointed out a few of what “I think” he is doing for the President. He’s allowing Trump to get on with things.

            I’m not defending anything he’s not doing. It’s just that I never expected much in the way of righting the wrongs of the past.

            I hate to say this, but the doj/fbi has insulated itself from the laws that would and have put other people in jail. They have rules & procedures that if broken go to OPR for adjudication and if egregious enough, they may get fired. This is a systemic failure just like prosecutors who are immune from any lies or bad acts. Barr is locked in on much of what he can do, and that doesn’t even address the question of whether he wants to change anything. I don’t know if he could institute reforms or if that would be up to congress.

            Bottom line, I feel this is not as simple as I would certainly like it to be. I’m not happy about it, just trying to be realistic in my expectations.

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  16. rickb928 says:

    “Preserve the institution, or highlight that FBI leadership have lied?”

    My friends, acquaintances, even my wife ask me ‘when do people start to pay for this?’. And this is Barr’s choice – ‘Preserve the institution’, or, burn it all down, from the top on through. Obama-appointed leadership has to go, career partisans have to go, and fundamental change made to prevent this in the future, if possible.

    Congress is starting to understand that the FISA court system is either incompetent or complicit, and that it cannot be fixed. It must be eliminated.

    We really have no choice but to burn it all down. We need constitutionally-guided judges that can decide these cases on the facts and the law, leadership committed to obeying the Constitution and law, and renewed culture in civil service that rejects partisan activity. This last being the greatest problem. The rank-and-file has been taught by example that they can and do get away with it.

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  17. Zippy says:

    Just sprucing up the blackout curtain on something that will never be properly investigated anyway.

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  18. jersey joe says:

    What about the 900K paid to Halper and Azra Turk to frame PappaD?

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  19. Deplore Able says:

    “In our review, we did not find any evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. All of the members of the Crossfire Hurricane team told the OIG that no investigative steps of any type were taken prior to receipt of the predicating information for the Crossfire Hurricane investigation on July 28, 2016, and we found no evidence to the contrary.”

    “If no investigative steps “of any type” were taken prior to July 28th, 2016, then how does George Papadopoulos run afoul of meeting(s) being monitored in March 2016 with the “overseas professor” Joseph Mifsud?”

    Horowitz says the there is no evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs prior to the opening of Crossfire Hurricane. That doesn’t mean that someone else didn’t send Misfud, like maybe John Brennan, Hakylut, etc. If it wasn’t the FBI or someone else in the DOJ, Horowitz can look the other way because it isn’t within his “purview.” He pays no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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  20. Bob says:

    This has reached the point where it has become boring. The bureaucracy is corrupt. That includes all of the FBI and DOJ. Including Barr and Durham You know. I know it. And Trump has known it for a long time. Trump is only doing what he knows he can get away with. He has learned to play along because he is smart enough to know that they will be here long after he is dead and gone. These people run the country now and there isn’t anything that can change that.

    You are watching this new country in its dissolution. Bound to have happened all along.

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    • dottygal says:

      According to Bernie’s campaign manager in Iowa if Bernie’s elected they are going to put us all in Gulags and reprogram us! Caught on tape by an under cover Project Veritas employee.

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  21. j_normal says:

    I love that someone actually reads! Reads the reports, thinks about what it means and cross-references information. Outcome based education got it’s results, in that people either could not read well or did not enjoy reading, thus they depended on others to tell them what to think. Thank you Sundance for your brain.

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  22. MACAULAY says:

    I HOPE:

    Since Horowitz was only investigating the FBI, the Mifsud issue is answered by the fact that he was hired by British Intelligence at the request of the CIA—not the FBI. Thus, Horowitz’s conclusions.

    I AGREE:

    Joseph Mifsud is the key; and

    We’re putting a ton of ‘hope’ on the moral character of John Durham and Bill Barr.

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  23. Han Solo says:

    I first read this with giddy and glee, I read it again, now I gotta pee

    I’m becoming convinced that as each piece of the puzzle that is set in place while there is no action by the enforcement arm of the DOJ thus far (except a few actions that protect the club while Flynn gets hammered over nothing) that Barr/Durham won’t live up to what we wish it to be where justice is served equally. The DOJ/FBI/Intel institutions are corrupt and being used against the people they supposedly serve and protected by the swamp creatures in Congress and the bureaucracy within.

    No conservative/libertarian, much less Constitutionalist/Federalists will ever trust the gubment. Funny how they portray us in the movies (ala Gene Hackman/Will Smith movie – I forgot the name). The biggest scandal in American history seems like its going to be covered up by not only the leftist politicians, media and all their cohorts, but also by purported allies close to the POTUS. At this point, my dream that all those involved will get justice served to them to turn around every lie and disinformation in the press is just that – a dream.

    The only hope I see is another four years of Trump in a landslide giving him a mandate to change the personnel and squash the institutions involved while building them back up…but that will require Congress, which is where the real battle begins. Without our own echo chambers that have an equivalent reach into the public, this is an uphill battle, especially when we start seeing states like VA fall to the ground operations of the left. Trump is aware of this…his best asset is his ability to expose, but if Barr/Durham don’t deliver, I suspect this election year’s Wikileaks will be an Executive Action to declassify EVERYTHING! Really, that’s one of his biggest levers…

    COLD ANGER – yes! But at this point, its bursting at the seams…

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  24. Dee says:

    I don’t understand why the people on here still have hope for Barr. The whole thing is fixed.
    Barr ( The Band Is Back Together)
    Wray not fired (Comey & Muller Guy) And Barr Calls him a good guy and so helpful…bla bla bla
    Graham (Head Of The Judiciary, Really that was the key clue)
    Obama guy to look over Fisa, really and you still don’t get it.
    Trump is getting impeached…
    This whole thing was a set up from the start…..

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    • Dee says:

      Was wondering how did we get more than one Dee?

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    • G. Alistar says:

      Barr … timing is everything.
      Trump impeachment is losing steam daily and has cost the dems a million votes.
      Jury is still out oh Graham.
      FISA abuse oversight by David Kris is either the biggest fraud in history by the judiciary or it is a trap to send him and dirty FISA judges to jail.
      Whatever happened to Contreras and why???

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  25. Niagara Frontier says:

    “The evidence of overwhelming…..there is a mountain of evidence….” BUT we need more witnesses and evidence.

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  26. James Groome says:

    At this point I believe it is VERY QUESTIONABLE as whether Trump would re-authorize or VETO the next FISC renewal in March, IF IT WERE TO MAKE IT OUT OF CONGRESS.

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    • I believe such a VETO would be overturned anyway, but If it was not the FBI would make sure that a terrorist event happened – round about late September or early October. Cause – “we didn’t have FISC, we could easily have prevented those 15 Americans dying due to that bomb blast or little Jimmy losing his leg – its all Trump’s fault”.

      If PT wanted changes to FISC – he’d be talking about it now – directly to the people – with examples. He’ll sign whatever they put in front of him

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      • James Groome says:

        He is talking about the FISC putting in the cover up artist Kris. Trump is mocking the selection… at this point I would not BET on enough votes to override a veto.

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  27. DJ Snyder says:

    At the very least, everybody’s waiting to see how the next election plays out before anything serious happens…

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    • Dee says:

      I don’t expect much to happen. I expect that since the Senate took this charade up instead of just dismissing lends it new status, impeachment will now be routine. Will Pub do this to a Dem if they ever run gov again, no they won’t.

      Trump is in doubt as no one in the Senate has the nads to make sure he remains our president, they know they will be there long after he is gone. I no longer expect anything but America to continue to fail as the dems have too much power already. looking at the current mess Nanzi thinks she is the President and I see no one knocking off her perch.

      Barr and Durham are place holders until Trump is gone and then they can go back to their lying thieving ways. Sorry to be a downer, but have lived long enough to see this as just another cover up of gov misdeeds as we have seen before with Hillary and Bill all swept under the rug and will be again.

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      • Phillie_fan62 says:

        I’m beginning to think that the rabbit hole of the DS IS so deep and corrupt that there’s only one way to settle this! If the court is rigged all around, meaning the House, Senate, media, social media, and all of the government alphabet agencies. That leaves the American patriot only one way to right this ship. Our founders gave us the tools. You can’t fix anything without using the tools in the box. And there are many of us, MILLIONS of us who would gladly grab out “tools” and use them to right this ship! And we ALL know what I’m talking about. All we need is a leader to utilize the workers he needs to do the job. That person IS DJT. All he has to do is say the word. Yes there will be a lot of bashing by the corrupted government and media and the whole left wing. The last final straw will be if he is removed by the Senate. The DS will feel the wrath of the people.

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    • G. Alistar says:

      Yep, with no Mueller hounding , no impeachment sham, a House and Senate majority just think how much more swamp draining and wall building that could be accomplished. Nor course the dems, media and their Lawfare criminals will help gin up some other scheme to protect their interests. $$$ Trillions at stake.

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  28. James Groome says:

    CIA + FBI = KGB.

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  29. MVW says:

    “we’re putting a ton of ‘hope’ on the moral character of John Durham and Bill Barr to tell the truth here…. and there are clear and present signals the current FBI backstory is full of lies, bigger than what is currently known.”

    I think it is not about moral character, I think it is abject fear of mortal damage to our Republic.

    ‘Some people in the FBI, DOJ did somethings’ seems to be the preferred narrative. Strategy is to drag this out until it is forgotten, like the Kennedy assassination, etc.

    Then the bondo fix is to put ‘hurdles’ in place to make approval from ‘Top’ people required, ignoring that it was ‘Top’ people directing every bit of it, up to Obama and CHIEF JUSTICE Roberts.

    I think the scandal is so septic that the FEAR is that this political corruption is non recoverable if put in the sunlight. So, Barr is trying to navigate between sunlight and complete loss of all credibility that happened under Trojan Horse Sessions.

    In Rome, returning armies were not allowed to cross the Rubicon river. Cesar did and changed the Roman republic forever. Barr (& Trump?) is trying to hide Obama Socialist army’s river crossing in hopes to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

    Can pretending really work?

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      Caesar was in a similar fix as Trump is now. His enemies had control of the Senate and were utilizing their version of Lawfare to destroy him. His term as proconsul had expired and he had no legal authority to command the legion with him, all that was left him was their personal loyalty to him. If he returned to Rome to try and defend himself against the crimes he was accused of he would have certainly been found guilty and sentenced to death. Many of his officers were also under attainder. Remaining on his side of the Rubicon was also not an option because refusal to return to Rome would be considered and admission of guilt and treason. It was either go forward and conquer or die. I very much hope POTUS never is put into a position of having to cross his Rubicon.

      Maybe the Democrats are trying to make it so. Why? Why won’t they make a deal with him? Is their personal corruption that horrible? What crimes have they committed that they must hide no matter the public consequences?

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      • G. Alistar says:

        Don’t you think time is on the side of President Trump?

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        • TarsTarkas says:

          I would like to think so. I would also like to think that the Senators have enough self-awareness to realize what a conviction might do to them personally.
          Dismissal of articles as being unworthy of a trial would eliminate exposure of personal corruption and at least this time halt the bill of attainder BS. Anything including watching cat videos could be called abuse of office and one can’t obstruct something that hasn’t been determined to be obstruction.

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      • gda53 says:

        “I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.”

        “I” in this case being Barr/Durham
        Caesar in this case being the FBI

        Some think this will be the tack that the criminal investigation takes.

        Nope. The idea that the FBI will be redeemed by Barr/Durham similarly to Mark Antony redeeming Caesar is ludicrous.

        Permission to make an analogy: There’s currently human feces all over San Francisco. No matter how you try, you can’t force people to stop noticing that, and there’s no way to put that feces back in the bowels of the FBI.

        A reckoning has got to come. We were promised a spring cleaning. We await to see just how thorough it will be.

        It’s not going to cut it for them to say “That wasn’t feces, that was good old American dirt”

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  30. jeans2nd says:

    There may be another explanation for all of this.
    FBI did not task CHSs or UCEs. CIA did, or other “allies” overseas.
    FBI remain “monitoring,” as Strzock was FBI tasked to CIA.

    IG report seems to be worded to reflect exactly that, and explains the Durham statement.

    All that said, will there be a humongous coverup? You betcha.
    Don’t trust either Durham or Barr any farther than one can throw any D.C. institutional building.
    Must protect the institution above all, doncha know.

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  31. Don says:

    You had me at “McCabe LACKED CANDOR”….

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  32. Mike in a Truck says:

    You want change? Dont look to D.C. for it. These people wont police themselves- its hopeless.They play by their own rules and change the rules as they see fit all couched in legalise. Look to Virginia and now here in my home state of North Carolina. County after county is declaring themselves a 2nd Ammendment sanctuary. “I dont know anyone that owns guns”. An in your face to the Communist Democrat Governor of NC by a county sheriff. Get in good physical shape,combat is grueling. Be “well regulated” with your weapons. Ruck up! Stand up! The shot heard round the world is coming.

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  33. Pokey says:

    We need to close the FBI and fire the top levels of that hierarchy. We need to close the CIA and fire the top levels of that hierarchy. We need to fire the top levels of the State Department. We need to fire what remains of the top levels of the DOJ. We need to fire anyone above the rank of 2 star General who work at the Pentagon. We need to kill the Patriot Act and eliminate the FISA court. We need to ban Legislative lobbying by anyone on any level and shoot violators as traitors. We need to ban all of those fired SOB Bureaucrats from ever working for any Federal Bureaucracy or obtain any employment in Washington DC.

    Of course, we will never do that by any legal means. So, everything in Washington DC will continue to be business as usual. fubar.

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  34. Justa Guy says:

    So, everyone KNOWS what crimes have been committed and who committed those crimes…all that is left for us to see is justice. Will it be more “just us” or will justice prevail? There are too many of us that are awake for them to let this crap pass again. Heads will roll figuratively or heads will roll literally. We will soon know what must be done.

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  35. hokkoda says:

    Seems like they’re trying to square the IG Report with the testimony being given outside the IG Report. In other words, everyone, and I mean everyone, involved in Coup Part 1 has hung their hat on the bizarre notion that there was absolutely zero investigation of Trump until 7/28/16. They are all swearing to it under oath. They have destroyed and covered up as much paperwork as possible to erase any evidence of investigation prior to that date. Everyone is racing to protect that date. If any information emerges which definitively establishes that the FBI was investigating prior to that date, then every single one of them is immediately guilty of perjury, and the whole coup conspiracy unravels. It’s incredible how important 7/28/16 has become to the coup conspirators’ defense. As they send their comments to the IG, the evolving picture attempts to further draw a bright line at 7/28/16. They’re hanging everything on this date, and that Durham cannot establish investigative activity prior to that date. It all goes to predication. If the predication falls apart, everything, including the “successful” prosecutions of Flynn, Papadopolous, Manafort, maybe Stone, the entire Mueller investigation and associated report, everything in the coup collapses.

    In short: there’s no fall-back position for the conspirators. If 7/28/16 falls, they all go down with it. If they had fallback positions, we’d have heard about it by now. The decided-upon group lie is 7/28/16.

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  36. Don McAro says:

    Thus all the reason for the Senate to Finish the Dirty work… and remove a duly elected President

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  37. deeperinfo says:

    Call Durham as the witness…

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  38. Rick says:

    Some Interesting tidbits.

    Before Papadopoulos joined the Trump campaign he was already being monitored by international spies at the London Center for International Law and Practice, because he had a great idea for where to pipe the Leviathan gas field discovery, and it was in a way that would strengthen our allies around Israel in the region, which Obama strongly opposed.

    Carter Page, another energy consultant who agreed with Trump’s policy of be-friending Russia. This thought terrorizes Obama and Hillary because they’re afraid Putin might spill the beans on them.

    What are the odds these two were being spied on by CHSs for reasons other than that of Crossfire Hurricane?

    We know Papadopoulos was being spied on by the London Center for International Law and Practice before he joined the Trump campaign.

    His ideas of where to pipe the newly discovered leviathan gas fields were Pro USA and Israel, Obama’s plans were pro muslim.

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  39. Rather Not Say says:

    I think there is a different way to thread that needle. The IG says that “THE FBI” did not task UCE or CHS prior to predication. I am not sure that the set up was by FBI assets so much as CIA, and foreign intel with push from CIA. So the IG could say that “the FBI did not use CHS prior”, but could not say “CHS were not used prior”.

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  40. Zippy says:

    Sorry, the game is hopelessly rigged.

    How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

    “In modern usage, the term has lost its theological context and is used as a metaphor for wasting time debating topics of no practical value…”

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    • Ausonius says:

      How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?”

      The answer is…ALL of them!

      Angels are spirits, and occupy no space!

      Q.E.D.

      Concerning the farce about be perpetrated by our Senatraitors:

      Hope and pray for the best: prepare yourself for the worst!

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  41. MustangBlues says:

    Wow! The naysayers are out in force today; Nattering Nabobs of Negativity spouting despair and gloom. Why would they do that?? Are they paid? Are they self haters, or just America haters disguised as patriotic skeptics?

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    • Pokey says:

      I have been around long enough to remember the Kennedy and Nixon election. Of course the Democrap stole that election by finding enough votes in Chicago to flip Illinois to Kennedy. That was 60 years ago. Does that sound familiar to you? Please excuse me if I am skeptical and seem to be a Democrap troll in disguise, but wait until you have voted in 15 elections to call me an America hater. I am so old I even pray for America and I don’t think that I am superstitious at all and I have probably forgotten more than you know.

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  42. freepetta says:

    I think these “changes” qualify as LIES!! What a bunch of BS!! Time to get rid of these agencies who are lying pieces of 💩

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  43. Elle says:

    Call me Pollyanna, but I see it differently. I see the great summations that J Thomas and others posted above.
    ….but
    I see a trap. Just like the coup plotters have generated no accountability by using clever wording and splitting hairs ( eg the FBI didn’t have CHS but Perkins Cole, Fusion and Hakluyt, CIA, etc. are not mentioned in THAT sentence) ….
    I would like to believe a RICO investigation has gone on, hidden in plain sight using the same principle: separation and compartmentalization. These coup plotters are vicious, murderous thugs with unlimited resources. So who is good who is bad? Who is on your side and are you unknowingly working for the other guy? I’d hate to be in that world of cross and triple cross and naked self interest. For all we know Hillary herself sold out everyone early on for her freedom. Who knows who is playing for whom? Murder someone and it just might be the wrong guy or a set up to trap you setting up the murder.

    Given what we have seen with China and Iran and knowing Trump operated in the NYC building scene (mob) it is patently ridiculous to think Trump is haplessly watching cat videos as he hopes Barr will do his job. No, Trump’s MO is to weave a spider web that his opponents realize too late that they are hopeless entwined with the only avenues out, are the avenues that Trump wants or allows them to take. Stay in the web and get eaten alive. Your choice.

    The story is known. The players are exposed. The leverage is in Trumps hands. This game is far from over.

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  44. Mac says:

    I have said this before, but, it is worth repeating. What the attack against Trump exposed could destroy the federal government of this country and place a lot of very wealthy, influential people at risk of going to jail. It could very likely spark the Second US Civil War.

    Now, starting at the top, Trump knows this. Trump does not want to destroy this country. He wants to make it great again, economically. But, he is a fighter and will expose the improper, unethical and criminal activities of those who attack him, in order to protect himself. So, likely following the GHW Bush funeral, the establishment came to him ans suggested that the situation could be rectified by Barr. Barr was to come in, as AG, and put pressure on the Anti-Trump forces, in government, to lay-off Trump. He was also supposed to determine who was most at risk of exposure and decide who could be sacrificed and who had to be protected.

    So far, the Anti-Trump forces have not been receptive to the idea of backing down. Even the threat of Epstein being under arrest only resulted in his suspicious death while in federal custody. Barr is never going to expose the corruption in DC and other part of the establishment. To do so, would subvert his whole purpose for being in the position he now holds. it would prove, unequivocally, that the federal government does not work for, or even on behalf of, the electorate, but is wholly controlled by the moneyed elite. And, if the populace takes that message to heart, and they cannot change things at the polls, then they will change it as happened in 1776.

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  45. Pokey says:

    Time to see whether or not the US Senate can handle the trial. I am putting all my chips on not! 🙂

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  46. Scott says:

    CTH/Sundance put together so many hilarious and appropriate embedded pics in the articles. maybe he could come up with a “Missing: Joseph Mifsud” one with him on the back of a milk carton?

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  47. chinstrap says:

    Breaking: “Entire Russian governments resigns.”
    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-entire-russian-government-resigns-en-masse/

    There will no longer be any Russian hacking *of anything* as the entire Russian govt has quit.
    The entire democrat / media narrative for ‘Muh Russia Collusion’ for 2020 has just evaporated overnight.

    Hahahaha!

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    • Ausonius says:

      More troubling: this is nothing but a prelude to Putin becoming even more of a dictator, and probably for life.

      From the above link:

      “Putin also proposed multiple amendments to Russia’s constitution. His proposals would entail “substantial changes” to the constitution as well as to the “entire balance of power, the power of the executive, the power of the legislature, the power of the judiciary,” Medvedev explained.

      “In this context, it is obvious that, as the government, we must provide the president with a capability to make all decisions,” which are required to implement the proposed plan, Medvedev said announcing the en-masse resignation.

      What are the odds that Putin will diminish the power of the executive?

      Right.

      Good-bye to any semblance of freedom in Russia: hello Stalinistic dictatorship!

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  48. Sharon says:

    “Boy, if the FBI is lying to the IG about predictation that would put Durham and Barr in a precarious position.

    “Preserve the institution, or highlight that FBI leadership have lied?”

    If they choose to preserve the institution, Durham and Barr are not in a precarious position, are they?

    I think the only “precarious position” in play is the one they they would be in if they choose to highlight that the FBI leadership has lied.

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  49. Unless I’m missing something, the last statement “that both during and after”, describes only the “Crossfire Hurricane Team”, and not specifically the FBI, where as the first statement does specifically say the FBI. What if Horowitz is highlighting that another agency initiated the investigation? This would make sense because Horowitz emphasized that his investigation was focused solely on the FBI with evidence that primarily derived from interviews and documents he had access to. What other agency would be tasked with an investigation the likes of this? I seem to vaguely remember a certain ex-director of the CIA that has been very vocal about Trump and his administration. Time will tell.

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  50. Ed says:

    Option 1) The game is indeed rigged. Barr and Durham are both compromised and like the Kennedy assassination cited above, this crap is dragged on until the public’s 2 minutes attention span goes elsewhere.
    Option 2) There really IS an active (and effective) investigation going on, but if “Trump’s DOJ” brings charges now, it looks like a preemptive strike/revenge to the masses. The dems insulate themselves with these BS proceedings and Biden is almost off-limits as it is now, being a ‘rival’ candidate. By waiting until Senate finishes their trial, hopefully replete with testimony and revelations that show the public the truth, the guilty parties can then be brought to justice without the appearance of revenge.

    My unqualified opinion is that it could go either way. I would hope for Option 2, but would not be at all surprised by Option 1 being the reality.

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