Sketchy Changes to IG FISA Report Cover-Up Major Discrepancy in First Version…

There was a major discrepancy in the Inspector General report on FISA abuse, that appears to have been overlooked and casts a considerable cloud upon the DOJ Office of Inspector General and Michael Horowitz.

In chapter ten of the report, on page #312 you will find the following information.  The claim is that no-one in the FBI initiated any use of “Confidential Human Sources” into the campaign prior to opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.  Read Carefully:

(Page #312 – pdf link)

“In our review, we did not find any evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.”…

However, in the very next chapter (#11, page #400), in the original IG report as released on December 9th, 2019, you will find the following statement:

(Page #400 – pdf link)

The two statements are completely contradictory.

Carter Page and George Papadopoulos started working for the Trump campaign in early March 2016.  The Crossfire Hurricane investigation began on July 28th, 2016.

If the FBI tasked CHS’s before and after they were affiliated with the Trump campaign, that was certainly before the opening of Crossfire Hurricane.   That statement was also included in the original Executive Summary (page xvi) as below:

The IG report was modified after publication to change this paragraph to:

“We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team tasked several CHSs and UCEs during the 2016 presidential campaign, which resulted in multiple interactions with Carter Page and Papadopoulos, both during and after the time they were affiliated with the Trump campaign”…

However, that still presents an issue with this statement:

“In our review, we did not find any evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.  All of the members of the Crossfire Hurricane team told the OIG that no investigative steps of any type were taken prior to receipt of the predicating information for the Crossfire Hurricane investigation on July 28, 2016, and we found no evidence to the contrary.

If no investigative steps “of any type” were taken prior to July 28th, 2016, then how does George Papadopoulos run afoul of meeting(s) being monitored in March 2016 with the “overseas professor” Joseph Mifsud (DOJ Statement of Offense – Papadopoulos):

Indeed the original IG report text would indicate that George Papadopoulos was subject to Confidential Human Sources (CHS’s) and/or Undercover Employees (UCE’s) during the earliest part of his activity with the Trump campaign (literally within a week), and would refute the claim “we did not find any evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation” (July 31st, 2016).

That revelation and conflict is likely why the IG had to modify the text of the report after publishing it.

By modifying the language to “during and after“, the tasks against Papadopoulos could be somewhat reconciled…. so long as the IG report also stated that Mifsud was not a tasked source against Papadopoulos in March…. however, how did the DOJ know about the content of the conversation in order to use it against Papadopoulos in 2017?

The FBI sticking to the statement that: “all of the members of the Crossfire Hurricane team told the OIG that no investigative steps of any type were taken prior to receipt of the predicating information for the Crossfire Hurricane investigation on July 28, 2016” is a very strong motive to bury Maltese Professor Joseph Mifsud.

Is that why Mifsud was disappeared?

Was Mifsud disappeared because the DOJ and FBI needed to cover-up the use of any CHS prior to the official opening of Crossfire Hurricane on July 31st?

Is that why Mifsud went into hiding?

Is that why Mifsud recorded a police statement with his attorney before he went into hiding?

Is that why AG Bill Barr and U.S. Attorney John Durham went to listen to that recording?

Keep in mind this is AG Bill Barr’s DOJ inspector general now saying no CHS’s were used prior to the opening of Crossfire Hurricane.

Is that why U.S. Attorney John Durham said:

“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department.

Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”(link)

Was the original IG report correct when it said twice that: “we determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team tasked several CHSs and UCEs during the 2016 presidential campaign, which resulted in multiple interactions with Carter Page and Papadopoulos, both before and after the time they were affiliated with the Trump campaign” ?

It seems unlikely a mistake of that importance, on a key and very specific issue, could be made twice in an heavily reviewed inspector general report.  However, if the IG didn’t change the text then this statement would be a lie:

The FBI wouldn’t try to lie and cover-up to protect themselves right?

Right?

Boy, if the FBI is lying to the IG about predictation that would put Durham and Barr in a precarious position.

Preserve the institution, or highlight that FBI leadership have lied?

Is that why FBI Agent SSA-1, Joseph Pientka, the primary culprit in this mess, was shipped to San Francisco and then scrubbed?

I mean we’re putting a ton of ‘hope’ on the moral character of John Durham and Bill Barr to tell the truth here…. and there are clear and present signals the current FBI backstory is full of lies, bigger than what is currently known.

Joseph Mifsud is the key.  No surprise he disappeared.

What would the intelligence community, especially the CIA and FBI, do to retain their lies?

Unfortunately, I think we all know the answers to most of those questions.

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I think what we don’t see happening is shouting at us….

….the question is: are we brave enough to hear the silence.

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392 Responses to Sketchy Changes to IG FISA Report Cover-Up Major Discrepancy in First Version…

  1. cruiser55 says:

    Burn it down!! All of it!

    Liked by 20 people

    • MNcarrypermitholder says:

      I disagree – the future tense of your verb is incorrect here.

      The FBI has already been burned to the ground, probably around 10 (or more) years ago. What we are looking at now is an evil doppelganger dressed up to look like the FBI.

      Or, if you prefer zombie analogies, it is the reanimated corpse of the FBI. Many zombie shows include a scene where one of the survivors (Barr) sees the corpse of a loved one (the FBI) and either hesitates to take it down, or is incapable of doing what needs to be done and ends up being eaten alive.

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      • dbobway says:

        The FBI is already burned down?
        We they sitting in a burned out building when they started and continue today with a coup against our President. This burned out FBI/DOJ Federal law enforcement branch of our government is the most dangerous weapon towards our sovereignty freedom than the Democrats.
        Excuse me, they are one in the same.
        The FBI has been unleashed on more innocent Americans than the terrorists, they nurture. Every time the FBI screws up people die or go to jail.
        “Oh, we’re sorry the 3” hole we put thru Randy Weaver’s wife with a .50 caliber rifle was an accident. We thought the baby she was holding was a gun.
        And on this comment page. I was informed AG William Barr defended that FBI shooter.
        The FBI’s MO hasn’t changed in my 64 years.

        I have a better chance to be set up for a crime by the FBI, than having a crime committed against me. Why?
        Because I’m a Conservative Constitutionalist American citizen.

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      • GB Bari says:

        Unfortunately no, the FBI has not already burned down. They still operate every day, busily violating Americans Fourth Amendment rights, lying, framing their targets regardless of innocence or exculpatory evidence. They capture a few criminals every now and then to splash that across headlines and distract the public from their nefarious anti constitutional schemes and methods.

        However, all traces of morality and integrity in the FBI so-called “leadership” that have been reduced to ash.

        And it looks like that fire of corruption is working it’s way through the DOJ leadership as we write.

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    • Alfred Barnes says:

      Starting with the FISA court.

      Liked by 7 people

    • MelH says:

      Word Press fine yesterday but back to same tricks today, 10 minutes blown and logging in twice before being recognized as legitimate to be here.

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    • RePete says:

      It is burning itself…

      The question still exists as to the method and form of exacting stern consequences on those foreign powers/individuals who have colluded against our Nation’s people and sought to upend our elections. There must be severe consequences.

      No more shadows. Expose them all and the let the people decide their fate.

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  2. Daniel Rifenburgh says:

    The silence will be broken when Durham and Barr are prepared to do so, I assume. They are not yet ready. That is unsurprising.

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    • 13wasylyna says:

      And they never will be…..they would rather protect the corrupt DOJ instituion than protect the US. They have all the information necessary to purge the DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA of these criminals with badges….but they dont

      Liked by 12 people

      • Dieter Dober says:

        They WON’T purge the criminals.

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      • stripmallgrackle says:

        sundance said, “Unfortunately, I think we all know the answers to most of those questions.”

        Classified.
        Classified.
        Classified.
        Redacted.
        Classified.

        And now here comes Schiff with a thumb drive for Nadler full of sensitive documents which must be protected from public view. Classified.

        Even the Detroit Lions know that using the same play over and over again is a losing strategy. Hopefully Trump gets to exploit this weakness in the weeks ahead as the Fiasco enters to the Senate.

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        • Betty says:

          What happened was – when Adam went home he had to do #2, so right then and there he dropped his pants (as is the custom in California). It was a soft and long movement and when it landed on the side walk it formed the letter U with a single blob follow up that looked like an asterisk:

          U *.

          Adam instantly understood the message and snapped a selfie with it. He then “transmitted” (transmitted is Russian secret code for “texted”, it sounds official – ((a poll tested truth)), anyhow Adam transmitted the message from his ass to that fat guy as proof that something in the Ukraine shit was omitted.

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      • Amen. They are Gatekeepers of the Status Quo. And they’re NOT preserving “The System” to save the country… They’re locking things down to cover their OWN asses, and those of all their powerful buddies

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  3. Orbanista says:

    “The IG report was modified after publication”

    Could you elaborate a bit? You mean they released a 2nd, revised edition?

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    • Justin Green says:

      Yes. They changed the wording and re-released it.

      Liked by 1 person

      • ILOT says:

        The next question is why? My guess is Durham uncovered the rock and gave the IG an chance to set the record straight to show he was competent. It’s all good now. /S

        Liked by 2 people

      • stripmallgrackle says:

        It’s final. The IG’s conclusions are etched in Play-Dough.

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        • MelH says:

          Is the President reading here? is anybody who counts reading here? Surely we can’t be the ONLY ones who know of all this corruption. Does Nunes read here, or Sidney Powell or the Trump off-spring? Is there some way we could get today’s article to someone who REALLY cares, like maybe the IG? Wouldn’t that person like to know we are on to him and WILL expose him? Twitter has banned me, but how about someone here writing a Twitter pointer to this one bit of corruption that we know is solid and only ONE of many bits Sundance has uncovered over the past 3 years. I am sending a link to the President, in case reading hwere isn’t part of his daily habits, but there needs to be PUBLIC exposure of the IG corruption.

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        • stripmallgrackle says:

          Correction: His findings are chiseled in Play-Doh. Plastigoop would be the appropriate medium for etching.

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  4. littlebird160 says:

    I’m afraid all of this is falling on deaf ears. Too much chaff and countermeasures have been deployed in the mean time. The American public is now consumed with Solemaini and the Sussexes, and the impeachment charade. The news cycle and the media’s absolute control of the narrative almost certainly guarantees this stain gets “laundered” out of the public’s consciousness.

    Liked by 16 people

    • theoldgoat says:

      This seems to be a case which the various characters think they are far more clever than they are.
      Buried in plain sight? Incompetence?
      It is a known that people in the top echelons of these agencies are “lacking candor”. This is always the failing of liars, too many other pieces have to fall into place to square their lies and it usually is what trips them up.

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      • Will Hunt says:

        right…. seems like they’re (senior IC leadership former and current) all playing the clock once again maybe even Barr/Durham this time around. If it can be strung out long enough anything can happen – there are many variables/unknowns in this equation.

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    • daniel1335 says:

      “For that nothing doth more hurt in a state than that cunning men pass for wise.”

      Sir Francis Bacon

      Liked by 15 people

    • Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

      It’s up to us to make sure those “deaf ears” get hearing aides.
      STAND.

      Liked by 5 people

      • 2zymos says:

        Without a rifle over your shoulder it is meaningless to “stand”.

        Stand up the militia, form the grand jury, produce the true bill, hand it to Barr/Court, arrest using the militia if refused, deliver to sheriff for holding until trial… lather rinse repeat.
        OR
        The people accept the military tribunal held for the “first couple’ of treason cases to eliminate sick people and sick institutions in LIEU OF MILITIA.

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    • ILOT says:

      I think it’s the plan. Overload and overdose the public with the charade, squelch the vote by ensuring every conservative voter that “it doesn’t matter, it will never change so why even vote”? Well, we have to deliver some hard news, just like in 2016. If nothing else try the empathy thing. Try putting yourself in PDJT’s shoes for a moment with every word being analyzed by pure hate filled hacks on the left, followed up with having to root out deep staters in your midst. Top it off with the likes of mitt, collins etc. PDJT is a beast, and needs our undying support.

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    • doohmax says:

      The Intelligence Community has been in control since the end of World War 2. They filled the vacuum during the post-war fog of nations without leaders and nations with leaders beholden to the Allies (read United States). They used this post-war period to set up their world wide networks, which continue to this day. To think that working class American voters could hope that this network would be exposed and brought to justice is naive to say the least. All they have to do is remove Trump, one way or another, and this little bump in the road for them will be in the rear view mirror. Meanwhile, you little people out there get back to work and pay those taxes. Oh, and look over there! The NFL playoffs and SuperBowl are just around the corner.

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      • 55praises says:

        Based on what has happened thus far (historically and since 2016), I’d have to say you are correct.

        We need to be realists – and realize that Donald Trump’s election was an unanticipated miracle and blessing to our nation. Much has been changed for the better in a short 3 years, even while the elites have and are causing much chaos. Their tactics are more easily seen through the articles published on CTH; I know my eyes have been opened.

        There is a lot of dust in the air (deception, busy-ness, ….) The scam has been going on for a long time and is SO big, it is hard to not come off as deluded when trying to explain it to those who haven’t a clue. It’s a plot so crazy that it’s craziness is how it can be pulled off – no one believes it’s outlandishness.

        Welcome to 2020 U.S.A. I anticipate it will get even crazier before the year’s over.

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        • Peppurr says:

          55praises – “,,, it is hard to not come off as deluded when trying to explain it to those who haven’t a clue…..”Ain’t that the truth! Well said !

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  5. Beau Geste says:

    So, did IG horowitz and his 400 merry investigators commit a crime worse than that the DOJ/FBI allege against General Flynn? Should the DOJ prosecute the IG and his staff (“co-conspirators”) in making this mis-statement? Did they “lack more candor” than General Flynn? Should judge sullivan angrily call the IG and his co-conspirators “traitors”?

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  6. Just some guy says:

    The biggest problem in my view is that Horowitz limited his scope to looking at just the fbi and Crossfire Hurricane. But everyone knows the spying was much larger than the official fbi investigation, which imo was just putting an official label on something that was already happening.

    CIA, state departments (including US, Australia, UK and possibly Turkey) plus “five eyes” foreign intelligence all seem to have been involved, according to George Papadopoulus.

    Liked by 7 people

    • sysconfig says:

      I agree..The spying was rampant in all the candidates..and dint need a warrant..Papadapolus fit perfectly as he worked at Ben Carsons since..November 2015
      ” November 2015, Papadopoulos accepted a foreign policy adviser role with Ben Carson’s campaign for president. The campaign manager, Barry Bennett, told The Hill that he hired Papadopoulos in a moment of desperation: Carson needed to fix his foreign policy shortcomings and all of the “foreign policy A-listers” were employed by Bush and Rubio.

      “Here’s this 28-year-old kid who is not terribly sophisticated, but he solved my problem of needing to put a bunch of names on a list,” Bennett told The Hill. “I’m sure he wrote some things for us, but I don’t know that we used any of it.”

      Papadopoulos worked with the campaign until February 2016. Carson quit the presidential race in March of the same year. He called Papadopoulos a “distinguished individual,” an endorsement displayed at the top of his LinkedIn.

      The recommendation must have helped. In March, Papadopoulos was hired by the Trump campaign, which was also trying to bolster the foreign policy credentials of the inexperienced Republican nominee against a former secretary of state.
      https://www.newsweek.com/george-papadopoulos-lied-his-resume-698409
      GP must have certainly discussed his plans to get a gig with Trumps foreign policy team with lots of folx..he made no secret and fluffed his resume and Clovis rammed him thru

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      • botchedcasuality says:

        Was Sam Clovis really working for Trumps benefit? Who else did he hire?

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      • 2zymos says:

        Obama. Handoff. To. Clinton. Was. A. Coup.

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        • 2zymos says:

          What does it mean when socialists/communists go after the guns (2008-2016), fraudulently take over the vote-machines/vote-counting, spy on non-Party (non-communist party?) candidates for the purpose of ruining candidates/campaigns, USING SURVEILLANCE-STATE APPARATUS, “approved” by corrupted judges and courts, etc… ???

          The Silent War.

          Stay cold angry.

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    • Tom S says:

      I wonder if this is the real issue, the other IC agencies. Regarding the changes, could the scenario be that Page and GP were surveilled upon but by the CIA using OCONUS instead of the FBI? If the IGReport is only looking at the FBI wouldn’t that make sense to change the text? Is it possible that technically the FBI only officially opened the investigation in July because the CIA and allies were doing the surveilling prior – perhaps even without the FBI’s formal involvement?

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      • Issy says:

        That’s what I think. Brennan was the plot mastermind who developed the Russian scenario and put pressure on the fbi to open the intel investigation. The fbi was well aware of what they were doing though and very willing to play their part.

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  7. Seneca the Elder says:

    Thanks to Sundance, It has become impossible to ignore the truth about what’s going on and what’s probably going to happen to the IC criminals- nothing.
    I don’t know about anyone else but I have no hope that Barr, Durham, Judge Sullivan or some of the other power brokers are going to come riding over the hill with reinforcements and save the day.
    They are all part of the same damn Club and neither we nor our President Trump are in it.
    Put things in perspective. Sundance is one person and look at all that he’s accomplished. You mean to tell me that Horrorwitz and his thugs can’t figure this out? I call BS.
    Sometimes the simplest explanation is correct. No one in the Intelligence Community is going to commit suicide (actual or metaphorical)and unmask their fellow conspirators.

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    • Mike Kunz says:

      I hope that you, and I are both wrong, but I don’t trust Bagpipe Billy at all, I’h hoping that Durham at least, lives up to his reputation.

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      • Chip Doctor says:

        IMO, there is no way that you can have one of both between Barr and Durham. Where goes Barr, so too is where you will find Durham. Barr is the key. His out of the blue, for no reason letter ripping the Mueller probe months prior to being hired by PT, looks like a set up in order to get another gate keeper AG to replace Sessions.

        The evidence that truth and justice are going to get the middle finger is very strong. Barr is not going to open up thousands of unrelated federal convictions to appeal by burning the FBI down. No way.

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        • destin326 says:

          Agree. One fixer after another arrive on the scene when they are called to duty to save the (((Them))).

          Liked by 3 people

        • Matthew LeBlanc says:

          Rosenstein wrote the “fire Comey” letter to get the SC ball rolling and Barr wrote the “fire Mueller” letter when PDJT and allies were getting too close to the truth. Both were IC products produced to deceive and both desired results were achieved. Dangerous times.

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    • nuwildcat1977 says:

      Seneca…good post and I am in agreement with you. My only hope is that with so much of the corruption/wrongdoing being exposed by Sundance and others, Barr and Durham have a choice to make: they can choose to prosecute the criminals or they look the other way. The legacies of these two men are at stake, history will look back on them as heroes or co-conspirators. The future of our country is at stake. Your choice, Messrs. Barr and Durham.

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      • 49perry says:

        Hope is the last thing that dies.

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      • luke says:

        IMO I don’t Barr and Durham have a choice. They are either corrupt and in the process of shutting this down and sealing the doors so no one takes the fall or they will do the right thing. I highly doubt if they are corrupt no amount of pleading from out side is going to make them have a “coming to Jesus” moment. Barr has made a lot of statements supporting our positions though. Surprising he would even bother if his task is ultimately to quiet things down. Definitely seems counterproductive to go on TV and defend our President in ways that he did. If nothing happens I’m not sure how Barr puts those words back in the box.

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  8. Angel Martin says:

    Barr has an important decision to make. I get that he is an institutionalist and supports the constitutional role of the Executive Branch.

    But the institutions he is attempting to protect, like the FBI, is now so corrupt that they are still behaving like this after almost 100 percent turnover of the senior leadership.

    And the DOJ is so corrupt/incompetent that it couldn’t even keep Epstein alive for his trial !

    At what point does institutional reform become more important than institutional preservation ?

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    • Chip Doctor says:

      Angel, as noted above, every federal conviction, including thousands of unrelated cases would be appealed under fruit of the poisoned tree. Barr is in an almost impossible position. Unfortunately, to protect corruption is to sanction and encourage its growth. Not very encouraging for our future.

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      • botchedcasuality says:

        Why am I the only person who thinks Papa D is part of the charade. His reward a book deal and varnished character. His story is just so contrived.

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      • Green Bucket says:

        Chip, it’s true that it will be devastating if Barr / Durham do the right thing. If they don’t, we won’t exist as a legitimate country – just another banana republic.

        If that’s what they want, let’s give it to them good and HARD.

        Starting with every single US citizen practicing outright civil disobedience – including NEVER convicting anyone in any trial – anywhere when any intelligence agency is involved.

        I will assume for the rest of my life every single prosecutor and all other attorneys are ALL lying, thieving, dirty, rotten scumbags just like their leaders and I will not give them a win. FOR ANYTHING, EVER!! Even if the evidence is overwhelming.

        I hope they pick me for jury duty soon – can’t wait to get started.

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  9. Guy-Blanc Déploré says:

    The other question is: What can we/will we/should we do about it if we are brave enough to hear the silence?

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  10. Orbanista says:

    “In our review, we did not find any evidence *the FBI* used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign…”
    Perfectly compatible with their use by other agencies, both of our Govt. and others. In fact, taken with the other highlighted paragraphs, it’s a clear admission that other agencies, outside of Horowitz’s DOJ purview, must have been involved.

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    • Orbanista says:

      So I don’t see how this “casts a considerable cloud” on Horowitz. Horowitz is letting us know that his report is perfectly consistent with Durham’s letter. “We did not find any evidence *the FBI*” etc etc.
      And it makes even more sense if Pientka was/is primarily CIA.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Halper, CIA, was paid about a $million by DoD. Did IG horowitz, or his not very inquisitive merry band of 400 investigators working for almost 2 years, ask what the FBI/DOJ knew about halper as a CHS/UCE?

      Did IG horowitz and his merry band ask anyone “who ‘used’ CHS/UCE codenamed “azura turk” (blonde honeypot bombshell)”?

      Why not?

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      • Orbanista says:

        Outside the DOJ, therefore “outside his purview”?

        Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn.: One of the key players in the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting was Natalia Veselnitskaya, who you described in your report as a Russian attorney who advocated for the repeal of the Magnitsky Act. Veselnitskaya had been working with none other than Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS since at least early 2014. Are — are you aware of that?

        Mueller: “Outside my purview.”

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  11. Paprika says:

    In our citizen’s review, We have have found no evidence whatsoever that the DoJ and FBI are capable of competently conducting any investigation with full candor.

    We have found plenty of evidence of incompetence, criminal activities, conspiracy to defraud the citizens of the United States, and a total disregard of the concepts of fairness, truth, impartiality, enforcing the Law, and justice.

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  12. TEAFORALL says:

    The more that we find out about the corruption, that is wide spread in our Government the greater the cover up. They are all above the law and the Media is complicit in spreading all their lies and bull shit. Barr/Durham have done NOTHING and will do NOTHING. FBI. DOJ CIA IC are a protective class. The Swamp is huge and Trump has only a handful of People that he can trust. We are now going to live thru the Impeachment and Trump will prove his innocence. Timing is critical now not later. RELEASE IT ALL LET THE VOLCANO IRRUPT

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  13. icthematrix says:

    Barr, in his evidence of leadership to date, demonstrates at best a conflicted soul relative to cleaning up his precious institutions. Does he pull back the reigns on his wayward SDNY relative to General Flynn? Nope. Has he clamped down on Wray at the FBI? Nope. He gives nice Ted Talks relative to his concerns over what he is seeing develop from Durham’s investigation, but crickets relative to actions.

    President Trump needs to put expectations down hard and fast to Barr, and a timeline, for results. I suspect we will get another new AG and FBI director after PDJT’s win, but the momentum will be completely lost for justice in the coup. We still might get more sweeping reform, which would be something.

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    • Peppurr says:

      I hope you’re right about getting a new AG and FBI director, however, both need to be approved by the Senate. Look how that went with President Trumps choice of Ratcliffe for DNI.

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  14. MNBV says:

    Right……… but as usual evidence doesn’t matter if the DoJ refuses to prosecute.
    If Durham defies the DoJ and prosecutes it’ll be a first.
    But it’s so bad now they are going to need a couple unlucky ones to charge with something.

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  15. Raymond Capwell says:

    Gen Flynn among other’s going to jail for lying to FBI,and McCabe gets off doing it.

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    • Issy says:

      It appears if you are in the fbi, lying to the IG is merely breaking a rule, not criminal, and you get fired. With mere mortals, it is a crime, and you are arrested by the fbi and prosecuted by the doj.

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  16. If SD can find this out, why can’t some honest people in the DOJ do so also? Oh, stupid me – I just answered my own question – honest people. Never mind.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Maybe those “honest people” also read the CTH comment section

      and realize there’s no point in coming forward?

      Treeper’s spin is EXACTLY the same as MSM’s…..

      both say “nothing will happen”.
      Admiral Rogers’ silence for the last 3 years is just as deafening.
      Says a lot that he doesn’t feel he has the “juice” to blow the whistle.

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      • amwick says:

        I think that honest people do read here… that they may be the crack in the door. I keep asking myself, what do I want, out of all this?…. My answer is I want a good future for my nieces and nephews, in the kind of country I grew up in… We were off to a good start with our VSGPOTUS, in spite of the cabal against him. The fix that happens may not come as a giant storm of arrests, trials, convictions, the stuff we see on tv. It may have to be more subtle, in order not to result in a collapse. If the foundation of a building is rotten, how do you save it? Do you want to save it, or start over?… huge question.

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        • Orbanista says:

          Well Augustus was able to do a fairly thorough overhaul of the dysfunctional Roman Republic that set the stage for 200 years of peace and prosperity. But it took Augustus about 40 years at the helm to accomplish that — unlikely we can do it in just 8 years. Certainly not in one term.

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        • Rhi says:

          The foundation WAS solid. But over many decades we the people while pursuing life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness have abdicated self government to nameless bureaucrats who sought power and privilege as psychopaths are wont to do.

          We voted every two years and expected those elected represent the best public interest instead of the interests of lobbyists who buy them. And we wondered why our country was slipping away. Our Republic was fashioned for a just and moral people. The Demoncrats booing God at their convention is illustrative of the march towards the Great Falling Away. Evil is called good, good evil.

          The foundation IS solid. The house built upon it needs a good exterminator. Then gut the rot and rebuild. I pray it’s not too late to resolve peacefully.

          Thanks to Sundance for mining through all the documents and pulling out another gold nugget.

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          • amwick says:

            That is a very good way to look at this.. Our Republic was fashioned for a just and moral people. That is the crux of the problem we are facing. Congress is not just, neither is it moral.. The people that framed our government would be so disappointed… But I do think that the foundation of the IC that is crumbling. The FBI, the DOJ… that needs fixing.

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  17. Boots says:

    Outstanding detective work, Sundance. Always wondered if Mifsud was still alive.

    Durham’s disagreement with IG report offers a slim chance he just might be the single, solitary man who will expose tthe world the depths of the coup and the participants.

    I say slim because so far, every investigation has been a coverup, and thus SOP. Why will one more investigator be any different?

    As to Barr, he’s selling snake oil. Talks a great game while throwing the game by lack of walking the walk. He’s not gonna take any active role in rooting out, let alone prosecuting, any one of these criminal law breakers; even though all are guilty of violating 18 USC 2385, attempting to overthrow the US govt.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

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    • J.Thomas says:

      Mifsud’s off the board…he bailed in a flash. He’s likely being protected in a British or Italian territory somewhere…somewhere the Clinton Cabal does not reach. The “Mifsud’s dead” rumors are intended to keep him in the dark until this is all over.

      I’d bet that we can find which nation Mifsud works for by finding out who controls the territories where his loved ones have recently traveled.

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    • LouisianaTeaRose says:

      Barr AND Durham both made separate and distinctive statements strongly countering Horowitz’s conclusions.

      Why would they do that?

      Mifsud and his shenanigans have resurfaced from unknown sources…why?

      Sheryl Atkisson got some new info from FBI insider….why?

      Mike Rogers popped up in the lexicon….he and Durham are working together…Glenn Greenwald must be some kinda crazy nut-job conspiracy-theory-journalist….

      Devin Nunes doesn’t have a bullet in his head.

      Trump tweeted out about David Kris IMMEDIATELY WHEN BOASBERG INVITED HIM FOR A GAME-DAY-THREE-LEGGED-RACE over in SCJ Roberts’ backyard barbecue. He has ‘t called Barr out on it, though….hmmmmm.

      I have yet to see ONE PERSON IN THIS TREE DEFEND THE DEMS WHEN THEY ARE SCREAMING THAT SCHIFF SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A HEADS-UP FROM TRUMP BEFORE HE GOT THAT BOMB UP HIS ASS.

      Why not?????? Shouldn’t we ALL HAVE KNOWN?????

      Yep. Die Hard: that guy that fell off the roof was a depressed stockbroker….he committed suicide. He was really depressed. You all should have seen it coming.

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  18. RAC says:

    Durham said straight away and publicly that there was stuff he didn’t agree with in the IG report.
    If he was meaning these parts that don’t mesh, that SD has brilliantly pointed out, I take that as a good sign of his integrity. Also as he works for Barr, same must go for him.

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    • Chip Doctor says:

      Each member of the coup is blackmailing Barr and Durham.

      If you indict me, it will pulling a string on a sweater. I turn, then the next higher up turns, and when it is Comey, Clapper and Brennan’s turn, the country will burn down”. They threaten to take down the entire IC, SSCI, Gang of 8 etc. Too big to fail strategy. Barr is not going to risk setting the country on fire. It might be that PT would agree. This is a mess.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        What incriminating material do they have on Barr and Durham exactly?

        A requirement of “blackmail”.
        Or did you mean to say extortion?

        Furthermore……if Trump has agreed to go along….
        what you are describing is a criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice.

        In which case Trump himself is compromised.
        He is no longer IN CONTROL he is UNDER CONTROL.

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      • You could bring all of the mess out into the open, where the Insane Left cannot refuse to see it — and pin it on Obama. Go for the head, not his weaponized agencies.

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  19. frankbrus says:

    The reality is that anyone who steps out of line will be suicided. There is no hope unless there is the possibility that the conspirators also face the risk of being suicided.

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  20. be says:

    Can not wait to vote in November 2020 vote Pres. Trump back in and Piglosi and her crew OUT.

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  21. dow40kby2024 says:

    Inspector General Horowitz is not as pure a fella as we have been led to believe. If Barr doesnt publicly announce this and quietly lets this slide my zero faith falls into the negative range. We/I Will start shouting this stuff at top of lungs soon. Media……. please expose further now. Also expose IG Attkinson too. That guy is so Swampy the Swamp can smell him. AG Barr you need to restore the confidence. Prosecute now and publicly or we shout and you go down in history a failure.

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  22. magoo622 says:

    In the one paragraph it refers to “FBI” and the other “Crossfire Hurricane Team”. Which departments does the IG consider to be a part of Crossfire Hurricane. Is there an index of definitions? If the FBI is a subset of the CFHT then it implies CIA, does it not?

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    • Sherri Young says:

      Peter Strzok opened Crossfire Hurricane on Sunday, July 31, 2016. He went into the office on Sunday and opened the case. Since it was a Sunday and nobody else was around to approve the opening of the case, he approved it himself. Lisa Page testified to this during her closed door House testimony in 2018.

      Horowitz pointed out in one or both of his Senate hearings that, through this investigation, they discovered that one person could both open and approve an FBI investigation. He found that to be problematic.

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      • magoo622 says:

        that still doesnt answer the question. The question was geared towards the IG’s POV of whom he considered as members of XFHT. I pointed out the differences.to see if anyone was aware of the IG’s interpretation. Usually there is a page of terms and definitions in these docs. You just restated what Im asking about and didnt answer the questions. Your statement about Horowitz doesnt clarify that. For example FBI members include (x,y.z) and XFHT includes these members (1,2,3). Which ones were explicitly involved with CFE’s et.al and which werent? That would help to correlate the inter dept coordination that occurred and resolve the inconsistency of the two paragraphs. And would also determine if the IG is corrupt as well.

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  23. JRD says:

    Lev Parnas “FARA violations” = Bijan Rafiekian (Flynn Intel Group) “FARA violations”
    THIS IS EFFING Bill Barr’s Department of “Just Us.”

    New Boss same as the old Boss.
    Same corrupt subversion, different day.

    Bill effing Barr is NOT on our side.
    Yeah, let’s just wait here like sitting ducks for Durham.
    What are we stupid?

    Rogue lawyers who left the DOJ are still partnering with the Intel Community using Soviet Russia fake crimes to over throw a duly elected President and Bill Barr has no problem with that.

    Area1 BS = Crowdstrike BS

    Is Bill Barr investigating? Give me a break. The man hates your guts.

    Bill Barr has no intention of cleaning out the FBI and DOJ scum.
    Barr is a damn Bushie. His motto is “Better a Democrat than someone who is not one of us.”
    His mission is to protect the institutions. May he rot in HELL!

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  24. moe ham head says:

    dont worry bill blah is on the case roflmao

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  25. Bogeyfree says:

    I’d add another question……….

    Were Mifsud’s phones collected to be used as evidence in this investigation or just collected?

    So far no one has heard boo on any of the hard evidence that now Barr’s DOJ has or should have, for example…

    The Wiener Laptop

    The 47 Hammer Hard Drives

    The HRC Server

    The 33K HRC emails that the NSA captured

    The PapaD serial numbers from the money he was given

    The forensic data Crowdstrike used to determine that the DNC was hacked by the Russians

    The summary report of all FIB contractors who accessed millions of searches via NSA Database

    The Rudy evidence from Ukraine that he gave the State Dept

    The SD disc of the DNC mirrored hard drive that was allegedly given to Sessions and Whitaker.

    The testimony from first hand witness Jullian Assange

    The testimony from the 2 first hand Uranium One witnesses

    The testimony from the first hand Hammer Program witness

    IMO these are questions that at some point in the very near future AG Barr and Durham MUST answer if the American are ever going to trust the DOJ and FBI again.

    At some point the truth can not continue to be hidden under an “investigation” veil. Everything must be exposed to the people. Otherwise what have we gotten after 4 years??

    The people MUST DEMAND FULL TRANSPARENCY from AG Barr!

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  26. Sherri Young says:

    Devin Nunes speaks to some of this in his interview with Byron York. Start at 14:20 and listen for about 4 minutes until the commercial.

    https://ricochet.com/series/byron-york-show/

    I found it pretty interesting that when Nunes, Gowdy, and Speaker Ryan went to view documents, they were greeted with a lecture about how they could be doing great harm to national security by delving into such things and discussing them.

    Nunes asserts that the nasty and unfair treatment he and Republicans in general were given by the IC in the press and other media very likely cost the Republicans the House in the 2018 elections.

    Good interview.

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    • Bubby says:

      Poor interview. So Laura Ingraham is in the tank for Mary McCord! Who knew? DC is just one big cesspool of corruption, interlocking marriages and friendships between a corrupt Federal government and a corrupt msm!

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      • Bogeyfree says:

        Laura IMO is just too uninformed. These tv personalities just can’t keep up with the ever changing and moving of the chess pieces which is why she had no clue and no interest IMO about Mary McCord.

        Maybe it is time for Sundance to start his own radio program.

        Think about it…….

        He is the best informed, knows all the players, has the best library of reference documents and knows what questions to ask.

        Imagine if he had a full hour with Carter Page, PapaD, Rudy, Nunes, Meadows, Lindsey or even PT??

        I think in short order Sundance could give Rush, Bongino and Brannon a run for their money.

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  27. RAC says:

    Might be making a big fool of myself here but it’s all part of the discussion.

    ” However, that still presents an issue with this statement:”
    “………………….*no investigative steps of any type were taken prior to receipt of the predicating information for the Crossfire Hurricane investigation* ( which started ) on July 28, 2016, and we found no evidence to the contrary. ”

    They will just claim they received the predicating information a long time prior to July 28, 2016.

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  28. J says:

    Lost in the weeds here. Horowitz has no authority to investigate anything other than the DoJ and its employees. These CHS’s were CIA. Therefore, the FBI had plausible deniability and Horowitz had some cover to be deliberately obtuse on the questions of political motivations and predicate.

    To put the pieces together the MOU between the CIA and FBI must be outed. It allowed the CIA to operate within the borders of the US and the FBI to operate outside. The CIA and FBI basically became attached, acting as one entity.

    Blow this MOU up.

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  29. Bogeyfree says:

    I agree with the many that believe in the end Barr and Durham will not indict anyone and the investigational findings will be just like Wray”s, where policies and procedures need modification.

    IMO our best course of action is taking our voice directly to PT.

    And the best way to do that IMO is at his rally’s where the 10k or 20k strong chant we want transparency, we want justice for all, declass now, it was a coup, etc.

    PT needs to hear US day in and day out that we are not going to take this crap anymore and maybe, just maybe he moves sooner than later on Barr or at least orders the declassification of some documents now.

    Side note, I wish he would test Barr right now and order he declass just the scope memos and watch the response he gets. My guess is that would show PT all he needs to know.

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  30. The Boss says:

    I certainly don’t see a Church Committee* on the horizon.
    I don’t see a Pentagon Papers moment. (Cue Cliff Robertson)
    That doesn’t mean the DC Swamp Gas / Bubble cannot be penetrated.
    I don’t have an answer to an obvious question at the moment.
    How do The People use The Swamp’s strengths AGAINST them to destroy it?
    I need to mull this over.

    *We can thank this committee for the creation of the SSCI and its astounding corruption.

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  31. Bubby says:

    Let me get this straight everything was put on hold for months and months waiting for IG report. The IG report comes out nothing happens. The IG report is revised nothing happens. It’s determined by Sundance that the IG report is flawed, bogus, inaccurate, misleading even devious. My guess is nothing will happen. The coup d’etat against President Trump continues unabated and entering into the most dangerous stage impeachment. “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with ABC News, threatened the President saying “one way or another” he will be removed from office by next year. She added that Democrats “may have him removed sooner” than that.” Godspeed President Trump!

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  32. Nom de Blog says:

    The FBI may very well be telling the truth if the assets were run into the Trump Campaign and against US citizens by the CIA. Horowitz has little insight into the IC. And the corrupt ICIG will make sure that stays true.

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  33. dwpender says:

    (1) On July 31, 2016, Priestap formally opened the FBI counterintelligence investigation labeled CH.
    This is Horowitz’s narrow and technical definition of CH.

    (2) On August 1-2, lead agent Strozk is in London gathering information.

    (3) Between August 1 and 4 Strozk and Page exchange a series of anxious texts about a meeting with the (unidentified) “Agency” to discuss CH and Strzok’s trip.

    (4) August 5: Meeting occurs. Someone (named redacted, surprise, surprise) from the “Agency” says (as quoted by Strozk): “This is being run out of the White House.” Strozk recognizes that this is problematic, and says: “Maybe for you it is.”

    (5) Obviously, the “Agency” knew a lot more about the history and origins of the “operation” that ultimately became the FBI CH investigation. Horowitz’s jurisdiction, however, began and ended at the point the FBI “formal process” began.

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  34. Chieftain says:

    That Horowitz’s group is/was untrustworthy has been known at least since Sharyl Attkisson’s revelation that her hard drive was switched out i.e. stolen while in custody of the IG’s office.
    To reiterate:
    The rule of law is dead in America.
    Two tier “justice” is the prevailing custom.
    The Democrat Party is a crime gang.
    The deep state is corrupt.
    The Republican Party has only a minority of trustworthy politicians, almost all of whom are in the Freedom Caucus.
    The prognosis is very bad. The election process is highly susceptible to manipulation because of motor voter and the resistance of Democrats to cleaning up the election rolls and failure to require paper ballots.

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  35. 6x47 says:

    Meh – nothing to see here, folks. The Obama Administration constructed an ad hoc secret police force to monitor political opposition and journalists under the guise of “counterintelligence.” It’s supposed to be illegal to do that, but as with everything else nobody and nothing holds the people at the top accountable.

    Move along!

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  36. Linus in W.PA. says:

    I can’t take much more of learning about what happened without seeing any real justice.

    Liked by 2 people

    • dawg says:

      I feel the same way sometimes, but the fact is, We have to. We have to “take” it. THIS is the fight that’s been needing to be fought for a long time. Do not look away. We have to keep praying, keep “Standing” and keep fighting back. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. With Donald Trump in the Oval, We can win.

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  37. tommylotto says:

    Looks like an innocent typo to me. Before and After makes no sense, because it does not include during. As read, the spies were run at them only before and after but not during their tenure with the campaign. We know that was not the case. More likely someone wrote Before when they meant During, and the various proof readers overlooked the screw up and even copied and pasted the error into the executive summary. TOP MEN

    That is not to say that Mifsud is not the key. He was probably working for CIA, not FBI/DOJ, and that gives Horowitz his plausible deniability. His jurisdiction only covered FBI/DOJ. What the spooks at CIA are up to is beyond his purview.

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    • Call Me Al says:

      It could be a typo, but not for the reason you give. Usually, when we use phrases about the timing of an issue we say, “before, during and after.” He really did mean to say ‘before’, he just left out the word ‘during’.

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  38. 4freedom says:

    The deep state is very good at protecting their own, look who got appointed to review FBI abuses another Obama sycophant, nothing will happen of course.

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  39. Bryan Alexander says:

    Sundance, and any others who might know, a couple of questions and points:

    1. Strzok was FBI. But he also worked in some capacity for the CIA, as either a liason or was tasked to them for something. Is Horowitz EXCLUDING any actions taken by FBI personnel while tasked to the CIA? That may be how they/he are getting around an obvious lie.

    2. Does Horowitz have any authority at all over CIA employees?

    3. IG Horowitz has unequivocally stated that CHS were used against US Citizens. There is no way he can go back on that. However, he is trying to claim that none occurred before July 28, 2016.

    This is like the pin on a hand grenade…… and the hand grenade is the detonator for 100 tons of TNT.

    4. The pink elephant in the room is that the CIA was involved in running an operation against several US citizens. I have not seen any call for, nor any action taken by, the ICIG to investigate the use of CIA resources against US citizens. If I am not mistaken, this would be a violation of Federal Statutes unless approved by the Attorney General after consultation with Director of National Intelligence. See the link https://www.cia.gov/about-cia/privacy-and-civil-liberties/CIA-AG-Guidelines-Signed.pdf

    5. When you step back and look at the Russia Collusion operation from a little bit broader perspective, the role of the CIA in all of this has been totally whitewashed and buried. Why? For any of this to be legal, the Attorney General AND the Director of National Intelligence have to approve it. Which leads to an even bigger story.

    6. Joseph Misfud is apparently not a US Citizen. For him to have been tasked by the CIA/FBI to get involved in an operation against a US Presidential candidate, do you believe that would have been done without some kind of request and consent from Misfud’s controlling intelligence organization? There is evidence sitting here in plain sight just BEGGING to be investigated.

    7. Papadapoulus and Page are clearly on record of being approached BEFORE July 28, 2016. The Horowitz Report acknowledges their timeline. But, as Sundance pointed out, the report was clumsily changed to hide/bury US Government involvement BEFORE July 28, 2016.

    The Horowitz Report leaves a gaping hole that the media and the Deep State do not want to look into nor even acknowledge: United States Government Intelligence Agencies were involved in operations against Donald J Trump, Candidate for President of the United States, BEFORE the official date that multiple Obama Administration officials have sworn under oath was the beginning of the investigation.

    8. Implicated by this are the Attorney General Loretta Lynch, the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, the CIA Director John Brennan and the National Security Advisor Susan Rice. every one of those individuals would have to be involved for this to be “legal”.

    If every one of those individuals was involved, how could the President of the United States NOT be briefed on it, or permission sought to conduct the operation?

    9. The person who the media shall never accuse, insinuate, implicate, suggest, hint nor even investigate was involved in this operation is being protected at a level never before seen in American journalistic history.

    Dan Rather and his personal producers were going through 35 year old Air National Guard daily reports to try to find dirt on George W Bush. There are mountains of evidence that the Obama Administration was conducting covert surveillance (electronic and human) on political enemies using the NSA, CIA, FBI and State Department. And the Main Stream Media is sitting there like utter fools, protecting Barak Obama.

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    • John-Y128 says:

      The CIA not supposed to be involved in domestic affairs, so they turned to Comey.

      Liked by 3 people

    • aisheschayal says:

      Good outline, points and questions!

      Liked by 2 people

    • dwpender says:

      Perhaps there have been no requests that the IG look at CIA actions because the relevant IG is …… Michael Atkinson!

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Serendipity in the IG Report:

      pp 308
      early in the investigation, the Crossfire Hurricane team discovered
      that it had an existing FBI CHS who had previously interacted with named subjects of the investigation.

      pp 354
      Case Agent 1 told the OIG that Source 2 then asked whether the team had
      any interest in an individual named Carter Page. Case Agent 1 said that the
      members of the investigative team “didn’t react because at that point we didn’t know where we were going to go with it” but asked some questions about how Source 2 knew Carter Page. Source 2 explained that, in mid-July 2016, Carter Page attended a three-day conference, during which Page had approached Source 2 and asked Source 2 to be a foreign policy advisor for the Trump campaign. According to the EC summarizing the August 11, 2016 meeting, Source 2 said he/she had been “non-committal” about joining the campaign when discussing it with Carter Page in mid-July, but during the August 11, 2016 meeting with the Crossfire Hurricane team, Source 2 “stated that [he/she] had no intention of joining the campaign, but [Source 2] had not conveyed that to anyone related to the Trump campaign.” Source 2 further stated he/she “was willing to assist with the ongoing investigation and to not notify the Trump campaign about [Source 2’s]decision not to join.” Source 2 also told the Crossfire Hurricane team that Source 2 was expecting to be contacted in the near future by one of the senior leaders of the Trump campaign about joining the campaign.

      In addition, Source 2 told the Crossfire Hurricane team that Source 2 had
      known Trump’s then campaign manager, Manafort, for a number of years and that
      he had been previously acquainted with Michael Flynn. Case Agent 1 told the OIG that “quite honestly … we kind of stumbled upon [Source 2] knowing these folks.”He said that it was “serendipitous” and that the Crossfire Hurricane team “couldn’t believe [their] luck” that Source 2 had contacts with three of their four subjects,including Carter Page.

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    • Bubby says:

      Good list I would add: What was Gina Haspel’s involvement in, knowledge of Spygate if any while stationed in Britain?

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    • Orbanista says:

      Giving Obama too much credit? What about his handlers? And what about British Intelligence?

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    • Peppurr says:

      Excellent post. If today’s media was doing it’s darn job, we wouldn’t be where we are today. They’ve given the nod to the left that they can do whatever they want and they will support them. They are the left’s biggest ally.

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  40. What I will truly never understand about these people is their obsession with “knowing everything that there possibly was to know” about a political opponent. Since you could know the receipt number when a friend of a friend of a friend of your enemy bought a chicken sandwich for lunch, you simply had to overturn Heaven and Hell to find that out. Whereas, if they’d spent one tenth of that time and money finding out what voters wanted, who knows, they might have won.

    The real problem here is that the Fourth Amendment is totally gone. A two-bit low grade FBI contractor flunky can, with just a few mouse clicks, grab all that information and put it on unencrypted thumb drive and walk right out the door with it. “Knowledge Is Power” folks! And we are utterly out of control of that power.

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  41. John-Y128 says:

    Who would of guessed, AG Barr waves his magic wand, problem solved, ‘No FISA warrants of campaigning US politicians’, no wonder he’s the DOJ Superman, using his cape as cover up.

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  42. William says:

    As the days go by, it gets more clear that Barr and Durham are taking us for a ride. They and the rest of the deep-staters are all hoping the Trump presidency not go past January 2021. It is now a matter of running the clock out. That way, all their problems are solved. All investigations will be shut down and scrubbed and nothing will change. Life is good for them in the deep state.

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  43. Brian Baker says:

    True reform of an institutionally corrupt agency will not occur until honest and independent outsiders are in positions of authority.

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  44. Publius2016 says:

    counter intelligence operations are always in darkness…if a LIGHT IS SHINED THAT IS SO THE RATS CAN RUN THE OTHER WAY!

    “Crossfire Hurricane” is the cover…remember 21st Century Surveillance is infrared, digital all encompassing and in real-time…45 called 44 SICK BAD because its truly tyrannical.

    44 ordered the surveillance on 45 most likely during “the birth certificate” being exposed as FAKE.

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  45. Johnny Dollar says:

    The SD analysis falls short in one respect: He leaves out the CIA involvement.

    More specifically, the analysis leaves out Brennan who, after his own investigation, caused Crossfire Hurricane to stand up.

    As others have said, if Mifsud and Halper were paid and employed by the CIA, then they were “used” by the CIA and not the FBI. Which would mean the Horowitz conclusions in both of his reports are consistent.

    The CIA is the stealth instigator in all of this drama and to look solely at the FBI involvement usually gives less than half the picture. IMO.

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  46. FISA is either covering up for its own stupidity, vapidity or set agenda.

    The appointment of this lackey judge to ‘oversee’ the FBI FISA reforms of what the now suddenly retiring FISA judge (who called for reforms) tells us all we need to know, its hand slap and move on time. as either they were in on it or, they are covering up their huge lapses………..

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  47. MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

    I’m not a smart guy but I have a hard time with that “protecting the institutions” BS. The past 40 year history of the FBI shows them to be right at the level of the Mafia. All they do is protect the elite.That institution needs far less grads from the northeast. A large collections of liberal punks with a badge.

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  48. Paul in Seattle says:

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” – John Adams

    No amount of evidence will overcome this basic fact.

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  49. Zydeco says:

    All that’s left is the announcement that Horowitz and team are going to received bonuses (ala Bruce Ohr) for their work.

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  50. mr.piddles says:

    “I mean we’re putting a ton of ‘hope’ on the moral character of John Durham and Bill Barr to tell the truth here…. and there are clear and present signals the current FBI backstory is full of lies, bigger than what is currently known.”

    And then you have… Christopher Wray. If there were actually a “smell test”, Christopher Wray wouldn’t pass it.

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