FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer Blasts FBI in Response to Evidence of FISA Fraud – Likely More Unreliable Applications…

To fully understand today’s response order (pdf here) from FISA Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer to the DOJ/FBI, a little background context is needed.

As we noted, last weekend HPSCI ranking member Devin Nunes dropped the gloves and essentially stated the DOJ/FBI were conspiring against U.S. citizens with the wilful participation of the FISA court.  This was a stunning, albeit unreported, development.

Nunes change in posture is important because he outlined that without severe corrective action the FISC should be dismantled.  Additionally, on the specific issues of fraudulent applications to the FISC, in February  2018 Devin Nunes and former Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte had prior communication to Judge Collyer with warnings.  Very strongly worded warnings and concerns.  So there’s a history on this exact issue.

In their prior communication Judge Collyer, representing the judicial branch, downplayed the warning of the legislative branch, and told Nunes and Goodlatte to work it out with the executive branch.   The developments over the FISA fraud now stand against that context.

Today, Judge Rosemary Collyer responds to the DOJ and FBI about the inspector general investigation and subsequent findings. [pdf here – and full embed below] Having read her writings, and understanding that everything FISC is classified, it is possible to see between the lines she writes.

Collyer outlines in her order how the DOJ-NSD and FBI reported issues to the FISC in October and November prior to the IG report release.  Essentially, Collyer implies the DOJ informed the court that additional FISA applications should now be considered unreliable as a result of the FBI Office of General Counsel compromise (Kevin Clinesmith):

The Oct/November DOJ notification led to a December 5th order by Judge Collyer.

On December 9th, when the IG report was made public, the FISC was given a declassified version of the report and was able to review for the first time.  It was from that IG review that Collyer was able to establish the full context of the fraud upon the court.  The court was given no advanced notification as to the totality of fraud upon the FISC other than a preliminary ‘head’s up’ on the OGC Clinesmith compromise.

As a result of the IG report, Collyer is now telling the DOJ to declassify her response of December 5th, because she is going to make it public.  Judge Collyer is not asking the ODNI (ostensibly now AG Bill Barr), to declassify her response – she is telling him to declassify it.

Here’s the full opinion/order from Collyer:


The bottom line is without actual legal accountability for the fraud, everything is just a matter of words without consequence.   Judge Collyer is angry, but so what… is she going to hold anyone accountable?  Thus the frustration outlined by Devin Nunes last weekend.

Judicial opinions, strongly worded letters, court orders, insufferable justifications, and government promises of corrective actions are meaningless when real Americans are harmed by gross abuses of power.

Devin Nunes had it right on Sunday…. shut down the FISA court!

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628 Responses to FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer Blasts FBI in Response to Evidence of FISA Fraud – Likely More Unreliable Applications…

  1. MustangBlues says:

    Look forward to the declassification deadline. Hope the redactions and long gone, the names of the career bureaucrats are posted, and their biographies, resumes and tax returns and off shore accounts are available.


  2. Joy Jones says:

    President Trump did make changes of EO from Treasonous Kenyan Obama.
    Not sure now where I read this…


  3. cb says:

    Devin Nunes for Prez 2024! He believes in freedom!

    Liked by 1 person

    • old white guy says:

      FISA, FISC, what are we talking about?

      Liked by 1 person

      • X XYZ says:

        Government alphabet soup. Take your pick. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth no matter how it is spelled.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Gary says:

        The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is the law that established the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (“FISA” Pub.L. 95–511, 92 Stat. 1783, 50 U.S.C. ch. 36) is a United States federal law that establishes procedures for the physical and electronic surveillance and collection of “foreign intelligence information” between “foreign powers” and “agents of foreign powers” suspected of espionage or terrorism.[1] The Act created the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) to oversee requests for surveillance warrants by federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies. It has been repeatedly amended since the September 11 attacks. From Wikipedia.


      • filipino2020 says:

        FISA is the actual legislation that applies to the process of obtaining warrants against a US citizen. “Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act”.
        FISC is referencing the COURT, that authorizes the warrant based on the information submitted to it and then issues the warrant. Which by the way, authorizes 99.7% of them on first submittal. “Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court”.


      • Benedict Comey says:

        A four letter word that stats with “F”…


      • FISA – Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Using Intel Agencies to spy on Foreign, and now with Obama approval, American Citizens. No Defense Counsel allowed.
        FISC – Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Where the FBI went and submitted unverified Trash as Fact and the Judges said OK and signed order allowing them to Spy on PRESIDENT Trump and his Campaign Staff, and on into his Administration.

        Note: Over 99% of all FISA warrants are approved, most without even a hearing.

        Remember Obama’s Last Act, when he allowed ALL the Intel Agencies to share info?
        THIS is why it was done. To quote Judge Jeanine: Liars, Leakers, & Liberals.


      • Sharon Lewis says:

        Old White Lady says,… The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC, also called the FISA Court) is a U.S. federal court established and authorized under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) to oversee requests for surveillance warrants against foreign spies inside the United States by federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies.


  4. cb says:

    Devin Nunes for Prez 2024! He believes in freedom!

    Liked by 1 person

  5. Magabear says:

    One good thing about Collyer’s statement is that even though it’s lacking in actual substance, it provides a good optic for PDJT and a really bad one for the demonrats.


  6. Reitired IG says:

    Love to see the pix of the red hair flowing while looking at the sea Sundance. Signifies to me you may be as angry/fed up as I am. Merry Christmas indeed!!
    There is no use in complaining (at least on my part) about Judge Collyer finally finding a set of a pair of balls to FINALLY complain about the FISA applications being total bullshit. Its just too forking late to start whining under the cloak of the IG report to start making amends now,. Chicken shit. B AWK. But it is at best a start!
    And Barr, have started to think of him as the Pillsbury Dough Boy, Sending all of us his “happy as can be” and “everything is under control” messages that are full of condescending bullshit. Just poke me in the belly and I’ll laugh for you.
    But dough boy is Full of GLUTEN. Which us POISON for me. I only have to look in a mirror to know I have been ingesting too much bullshit without taking steps to detoxify my spirit.


    • inspectorudy says:

      I’ll say it once more because I believe attaching a bad label to Barr is a mistake. We all know that the percentage of Dems in DC is about 90%. Barr knows that too and he also knows who will make up the jury pool. He has to have every charge NAILED before he can go forward. Look at Comey and McCabe not to even mention Strozk and NOTHING has happened to any of them except firing. Wray is another swamp dweller who will not punish anyone in the FBI. Barr knows this and is making sure he has the goods on all of them before he starts revealing documents that have been classified and part of this investigation. Be patient and I believe we will be rewarded.


  7. Hopper Creek says:

    cracks in the wall…….pretty soon boys, pretty soon….Jerico

    Liked by 1 person

  8. Zabadak says:

    The so called fruit of the poisonous tree. They are scared of how all encompassing this WILL turn out to be. Let your mind imagine the RAMIFICATIONS.

    Too bad she doesn’t possess the righteous indignation of our COLD ANGER.

    Sick of the talk. How about dragging these SOBs back before you and actually hold them accountable?

    Liked by 2 people

  9. The criminal is a lawbreaker by definition. You can have the most beautifully written law ever in the history of laws. You can have a week long celebration for the signing ceremony. You can have kings and philosophers praise the wisdom of the law. And you can have the rollout and implementation of the law the likes of which have never before been recorded in history. All of that and within a New York minute the law will be broken. Not intentionally mind you. But just because that’s what criminals do.

    And the federal government holds the record of being the only criminal enterprise to have broken every single law ever written. Because that’s what criminals do. Especially criminals with a badge and a gun. And I never thought that in a million years that I would ever write that about my own government. I guess it took me a million years to realize that there is a difference between my government verses my country. My country, I love. My government however…

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    • I hope I am not put in an internment camp for liking your comment!


      • X XYZ says:

        Tut, tut. “Internment camp” is politically incorrect and Big Nanny of the speech police will be watching you now. The official newspeak term will “re-education facility”.


      • Alan Reasin says:

        Comrade Bill Ayres of the Weather Underground said he believed when his authoritarian socialist followers took over, 25 million Americans would not avail themselves of becoming properly reeducated and would have to be eliminated.
        The Socialist Democrats running for President now don’t talk that way, but their statements about the massive authoritarian programs they propose and about effectively eliminating the 2nd Amendment tells me they would head in the direction that Ayers proposed.
        I doubt if this veteran would last long enough to make it to the internment (death) camp; I value my freedom too much to give in to modern Nazis . But if I do, I’ll save you a bunk.


    • Ospreyzone says:

      Government is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant, and a fearsome master.- George Washington


  10. Matt Bracken says:

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  11. 6x47 says:

    As I posted on the other post about the FISC, the court is a fig leaf of due process on top of an otherwise unchecked surveillance state. Getting rid of the fig leaf without dismantling the obscenity beneath it is worse than what we have now.

    Before there was a FISC, the FBI could spy on anyone at anytime for any reason, with only the personal integrity of the FBI agents involved to prevent abuse. The FISC is supposed to be an additional check to make sure the FBI is following the rules.

    Without it, Comey McCabe Strzok et al wouldn’t have even needed to lie to anyone, or leave a paper trail. They could simply do as they wish without anyone knowing.


  12. Padric says:

    For those thinking that they don’t see how FISC can survive, I hate to throw cold water on that thought but I would be remiss if I didn’t.

    FISC will move on just fine. At present they can simply point a finger at the FBI and give them a sternly worded letter. Yes, Nunes and Goodlatte warned them last year that there was something foul in the state of Denmark but Collyer will brush that off as having lacked strong enough evidence, partisan politics or, if she’s feeling particularly gracious (HA!), wrongly perceived on the court’s part as rumor mongering.

    MOST IMPORTANTLY, there’s no way in Hades congress lets the 3 letter agencies lose their favorite toy. In a few words, those agencies ability to collect intel would utterly collapse. Talk to any “old timer” of the CIA or read an interview with one and they all lament the same thing: The intelligence community has lost the knowledge on how to develop human intelligence because they are overly reliant on digital sources. I can remember reading multiple interviews and articles on this subject back in the early 2000’s. I can only imagine its gotten worse since then.

    If you need any proof, look no further than the ham handed way the FBI went about using Stefan Halper to try and get intel from Page and Popadopolous. The mere suggestion of an operation like that would have been laughed out of the room during the Cold War, and that’s saying something when one considers the more ridiculous ops they DID try during that time.


  13. Midnite says:

    I came to the tree house because of Sundance’s work, I stayed because of the high caliber comments and replies of it’s readers. Questions were asked and then thoughtfully answered with some degree of authority and I appreciated the honesty and forthright nature of the discourse I found here. With that in mind I’d like to pose a few questions that I find relevant to this discussion.
    1) We can assume that the FISC judges knew and have known for some time that they were being systematically lied to by the FBI, yet they did nothing to hold those persons accountable.
    a. What authority do these judges have (on their own) to file charges against these FBI agents and lawyers?
    b. Can the judges who signed off on these warrants hold those agents and lawyers in contempt of court?
    c. Can these judges unilaterally file indictments and or issue arrest warrants against these persons?
    2) Because of the long term and systematic abuse of the FISA process we can assume these judges were either corrupt or wholly incompetent. They ignored both their own reports, outside audits as well as letters from Nunes and others of problems found and known abuses of the process, yet they took no corrective action.
    a. Can these judges be removed for cause?
    b. Can these judges be found liable for their dereliction of duty?
    c. Can these judges be impeached?
    d. Can these judges be held criminally liable for approving FISA applications they knew to be false?

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    • X XYZ says:

      Now ask yourself this. If these judges are supposedly so indignantly angry, why have we not heard a peep from them about this fiasco?

      No, either they are complicit in it, or they are grossly incompetent.

      “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.” Or in this case, a total lack of diligence. They probably didn’t even read the warrant – especially the renewals of it. Rubber stamp, rubber stamp…

      They can’t deny that they signed off on the documents. They have egg all over their faces and they are embarrassed. Who wouldn’t be? They hope Nunes’ spotlight is focused anywhere but on them. Time to take cover and CYA.

      Can judges be impeached? Of course they can. ***But who is going to DO it?***


    • TaterSalad says:

      We believe that the FISA Court is negligent and is doing some CYA right now. Rep. Nunes sent them a statement over two years ago there were irregularities and the FISA court never responded and sat on the problem. Are the FISA judges also involved in the coup is a bigger question and to find out?


  14. Catherine Atchison says:

    agree that the FISA courts should be abolished. There is no place for secret courts in a democracy. However, all of this is useable in red pilling people who still don’t want to face the truth – #1 it’s clear that the FBI committed crimes and Comey et al have been lying to the public. #2 the MSM is not reporting on the letter, so we can use that to show the public that MSM pushes and agenda, and does not report the news. Let’s take what we can from it, and move the chains.


  15. Bruceterbilabong says:

    The footnote on page 1 has Judge Collyer’s lie.


  16. filipino2020 says:

    Corruption at the highest level. Now claiming “We didn’t know, and had we known we would have done something about it”. They would have had to have been under a rock living on the moon not to have heard or read all about the corruption that was and is going on to this day.


  17. TaterSalad says:

    We believe that the FISA Court is negligent and is doing some CYA right now. Rep. Nunes sent then a statement over two years ago there were irregularities and the FISA court never responded and sat on the problem. Are the FISA judges also involved in the coup is a bigger question and to find out?


  18. I have included this in book I am writing “Q ANON:The Reluctant Warrior” (Part 10)


  19. Curtis Gomes says:

    I believe that the FISA court was a willing participant. No rational human being, let alone a sitting judge, would approve these warrants without verifying the probable cause used to get them. Remember Judge Contreras, the judge who recused himself after he was exposed as friendly to leftist Democrat players. He signed the first FISA and God only knows what this court was up to. This court is an out of control monster being used against American citizens. We really don’t know the extent of their devious actions on behalf of the leftist political establishment. GET RID OF THIS COURT BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!

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  20. richard mcdonald says:

    Collyer had issues with surveillance prior to this mess. If you remember, NSA Director Mike Rogers alerted Collyer to rampant abuse of the NSA 702 database by outside contractors. Based upon Roger’s findings, Collyer conducted and audit and found 85% of 702 queries conducted from 2012-2014 were illegally conducted. She produced an 85 page brioef on the abuse. NSA 702 is for domestic spying. Obama admin folks also abused the system and unmasked a ton of US citizens. – Rice, Powers, etc. abusing the system. C0llyer is up to her neck in this crap and needs to be replaced. Where’s her boss His Holiness John Roberts?


  21. Gary Lacey says:

    Judge Collyer knows something about the FISA abuse, she is in “cover her ass” mode.


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