Friday December 13th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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  1. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    The New Creation

    By Pastor Cornelius R. Stam

    In Romans 5:12 God tells us how we are all related to the first man, Adam:

    “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin… so death passed upon all men…”

    This verse clearly indicates that every child born into the world since Adam has partaken of Adam’s sinful nature.

    Parents sometimes wonder why their children act as they do. The answer is simple! Every child is related to rebellious Adam by physical birth, and soon rebels like Adam, whose offspring he is.

    In Scripture we are told that God “commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Rom. 5:8).

    When you are in trouble and someone comes to your aid, are you not automatically drawn to that person? Should we not then be attracted to the One who cared so much for us that He “made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross” (Phil. 2:7,8)?

    Through natural birth we partake of the sinful natures of our parents back to Adam, and frequently we even have the same physical features as our parents. How touching, then, to know that the Lord Jesus Christ took on Him “the likeness of men” (apart from sin) and, as the God-man, died for our sins upon the cross, where sinful men (people like us) nailed Him! As we recognize this and place our faith in Him, a spiritual birth takes place and we become the children of God (John 1:12). More than this, we become members of the Body of Christ, God’s new creation, for “if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation” (II Cor. 5:17). “created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained, that we should walk in them” (Eph. 2:10).

    Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    Philippians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

    John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
    10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

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  2. czarowniczy says:

    Seems Rep Tlaib sent out a quickly deleted Tweet blaming the Jersey City shootout on ‘White Supremacy’ – and that was well after the perps had been ID’d as black. She’s so keen to denigrate (can we still use that word?) white Judeo-Christian Americans she can’t control herself long enough to get the hate speech correct.

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    • GB Bari says:

      The people who voted for her should be deeply ashamed. Unfortunately I think that the vast majority of them are not.

      IMO they and anyone else who approves of Tlaib, the hateful bigot, all represent a clear and present danger to the safety and security of our nation.

      But worse, on a larger scale, the DemonRATs who accepted Tlaib into their ranks after what she proclaimed upon winning her election, and who have yet to demand she be censured or ejected from the House, are as guilty as she of debasing and threatening America’s long held Judeo-Christian values.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I’m wondering how many of those who voted for her are disappointed they aren’t the ones who shot up the shop? As for the American Taliban who voted for her due to whatever reasoning I hope they’re comfortable with what they’re unleashing on the country.

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  3. Linda K. says:

    “I dreamed a dream”. I suppose everyone has seen this, but I think it is a very poignant and gutsy performance by Miss Boyle.

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  4. Garrison Hall says:

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  5. F.D.R. in Hell says:

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  6. czarowniczy says:

    Trump pulled us out of the 2015 Paris Climate agreement but the maggots at the UN are saying the US can’t keep from paying billions of dollars to 3rd world nations to compensate them for climate change which is, of course, largely our rich and successful fault.

    Thing is, the amounts to be paid in reparations (there’s that word again ) have grown since the original agreement and the real total of what we’re expected to fork over jes keeps agrowin’. We’re talking billions here that, combined with other progressive social programs on the books, promises to put a huge dent in the taxpayers’ pockets and the nation’s economy. But what the hey, it’s only money and think how many 3rd world will be tippy-tapping in sheer joy as they gets them taxpayer dollars.

    As a fallback I’d say that from any planed reparations we deduct all monies, adjusted for inflation from ‘gift’ to date, adjusted for inflation, from any funds proffered AND every nickle given be accounted for by an independent 3rd party auditor. Had the latter been done with the original funds they wouldn’t need more funds. Then again they most likely wouldn’t have accepted the funds with that proviso attached.

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  7. billmonnie says:

    Sundance I absolutely have no idea who you are or even if you one person. What I do know is that you reintroduced THE LORD’s PRAYER back into my life on a daily basis and I find myself frequently repeating THY WILL BE DONE! As a former clergyman who remains devoutly religious, I say GOD BLESS YOU in your mission of enlightenment!

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      Sundance and crew, this site and all of the commenters who follow have truly added to my life. I have never been a big computer person or social media gal but I find so very much on these pages and have been drawn here like a moth to light. From the daily tracking of political events, worldwide happenings, financial updates… and when that all becomes too much I can retreat here and find comfort/refuge on this Open Thread. I may not always comment or hit like (90% of time I am reading from my phone and WordPress makes it hard and sometimes impossible to go back and forth from iPad, phone, computer) but please know, the photos, the twitter snippets of things I’d normally not see, the beautiful music, the sharing of peoples prayer requests, the kindness and thoughtfulness of the commenters adds greatly to my day. Do not know any of you personally but strangely I feel we are a family. Thank you for being part of my day ❤️

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  8. dogsmaw says:

    Well it seems we have converted another yankee here in louisiana 😛

    Geaux Burreaux

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  9. Lucille says:

    Yes, it may be…

    …but all us black cats…

    …want to do is observe from the darkened part of a room…

    …which lap to favor with our loving presence…


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  10. Lucille says:

    “Every Time a Bell Rings an Angel Gets His Wings”

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  11. dogsmaw says:

    RICHARD JEWELL – Official Trailer [HD]

    The World Will Know His Name and the Truth. Only in Theaters December 13!
    Directed by Clint Eastwood and based on true events, “Richard Jewell” is a story of what happens when what is reported as fact obscures the truth.

    “There is a bomb in Centennial Park. You have thirty minutes.” The world is first introduced to Richard Jewell as the security guard who reports finding the device at the 1996 Atlanta bombing—his report making him a hero whose swift actions save countless lives. But within days, the law enforcement wannabe becomes the FBI’s number one suspect, vilified by press and public alike, his life ripped apart. Reaching out to independent, anti-establishment attorney Watson Bryant, Jewell staunchly professes his innocence. But Bryant finds he is out of his depth as he fights the combined powers of the FBI, GBI and APD to clear his client’s name, while keeping Richard from trusting the very people trying to destroy him.

    The film stars Oscar winners Sam Rockwell (“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”) as Watson Bryant and Kathy Bates (“Misery,” TV’s “American Horror Story”) as Richard’s mom, Bobi; Jon Hamm (“Baby Driver”) as the lead FBI investigator; Olivia Wilde (“Life Itself”) as Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Kathy Scruggs; and Paul Walter Hauser (“I, Tonya”) stars as Richard Jewell.

    Oscar winner Eastwood directed from a screenplay by Oscar nominee Billy Ray (“Captain Phillips”), based on the Vanity Fair article “American Nightmare—The Ballad of Richard Jewell” by Marie Brenner. Eastwood also produced under his Malpaso banner, alongside Tim Moore, Jessica Meier, Kevin Misher, Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer Davisson and Jonah Hill.

    Eastwood’s creative team includes director of photography Yves Bélanger and production designer Kevin Ishioka, along with longtime costume designer Deborah Hopper and Oscar-winning editor Joel Cox (“Unforgiven”), who have worked with Eastwood throughout the years on numerous projects. The music is by Arturo Sandoval, who scored 2018’s “The Mule.”

    Warner Bros. Pictures Presents a Malpaso Production, an Appian Way/Misher Films/75 Year Plan Production, “Richard Jewell.” The film will be in theaters on December 13, 2019 and will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures.

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  12. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “Be still, and know that I am God…”
    Psalms 46:10 (KJV)

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  13. Dora says:

    Vilho Lampi, Sallow; The Weeping Willow, 1934

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  14. Val says:

    •Matthew 8:23-26
    “23 When He got into the boat, His disciples followed Him.
    24 And behold, there arose a great storm on the sea, so that the boat was being covered with the waves; but Jesus Himself was asleep.
    25 And they came to Him and woke Him, saying, ‘Save us, Lord; we are perishing!’
    26 He *said to them, ‘Why are you afraid, you men of little faith?’ Then He got up and rebuked the winds and the sea, and it became perfectly calm.”
    «New American Standard Bible (NASB)»

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    • mandy says:

      Yet ANOTHER indicator that Jesus Christ is Messiah, because the people of that time would have been very familiar with Job 38:8-11, and especially Psalm 106(107):29 which reads:

      29 He also commanded the storm and it became a breeze, and its waves were still.

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  15. just stevie says:


    “Men ought always to pray, and not to faint.” Luke xviii. 1

    You cannot intercede if you do not believe in the reality of the Redemption; you will turn intercession into futile sympathy with human beings which will only increase their submissive content to being out of touch with God. In intercession you bring the person, or the circumstance that impinges on you before God until you are moved by His attitude towards that person or circumstance. Intercession means filling up “that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ.” and that is why there are so few intercessors. Intercession is put on the line of – “Put yourself in his place.” Never! Try to put yourself in God’s place.

    As a worker, be careful to keep pace with the communications of reality from God or you will be crushed. If you know too much, more than God has engineered for you to know, you cannot pray, the condition of the people is so crushing that you cannot get through to reality.

    Our work lies in coming into definite contact with God about everything, and we shirk it by becoming active workers. We do the things that can be tabulated but we will not intercede. Intercession is the one thing that has no snares, because it keeps our relationship with God completely open.

    The thing to watch in intercession is that no soul is patched up, a soul must get through into contact with the life of God. Think of the number of souls God has brought about our path and we have dropped them! When we pray on the ground of Redemption, God creates something He can create in no other way than through intercessory prayer.

    Oswald Chambers
    December 13th Devotional


  16. Dora says:

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  17. Han Solo says:

    God bless everyone this morning…stay strong and persevere for the storm is here and we will persist, survive and thrive as the light is shone and vanguishes the demons being exposed right now

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  18. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  19. Dora says:

    It’s called being devious!


    Pete Buttigieg is weaponizing a false Christianity…to attack pro-lifers…to-attack-pro-lifers

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    • bessie2003 says:

      This trend by politicians of inserting their convenient interpretation of a religious teaching to sell themselves to voters is really irritating, and tiring. On the one hand these liberals insist on separation of church and state and on the other hand greedily insert religion to sell their idea of state. If they believe in separation of the two then why continue to use one to enhance the other? Hypocrites all.


  20. ZurichMike says:

    Today is the feast day St. Lucy (Santa Lucia) of Syracuse (Italy). Celebrate the return of light to the dark north of Europe — originally at the time of the winter solstice in the Julian calendar. A huge holiday in the Nordic countries, especially Sweden:

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  21. Troublemaker10 says:

    Dear Chris Wallace:

    Trump attacks “fake news” (not the free press). the media not only destroys the free press from within; but attacks/destroys it’s own.


    “The media’s unprecedented and systematic conspiracy to destroy the good name of a journalist like Solomon does more than tarnish that reporter’s hard-earned reputation: It ultimately stifles public debate. Why dare to investigate the powerful or publish politically incorrect facts, only to be singled out by the rest of the media for destruction?

    If the costs of investigative journalism become too great, the freedom of the press our founders cherished will die of a self-inflicted wound.”

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  22. Jeff says:

    It’s Friday, and I feel uplifted by the developments of the last few days. I feel like a song. Noted TV tough guy Avery Brooks, as Capt. Sisko on the TV show “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.” Didja ever think you’d see Avery Brooks doing this?


  23. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on the spiritual fall of Adam and Eve (Genesis 2):

    1.. How the serpent called forth greed and pride in Eve.
    2. How the greedy and proud woman transgressed God’s command and ate of the Tree of Knowledge.
    3. How Eve sinned, not in the midst of poverty and want but in the midst of plenty.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau) for today – November 30th – on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church.

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  24. bessie2003 says:

    Question – Will a separate, stand-alone thread be able to be created where we can post questions and find answers to questions as we read (and re-read) the FISA report?

    For example – on the pdf page 237 (pg 197 of print version) there is a redaction where it is saying the FISA was renewed in order to “continue surveillance (redaction) targeting Carter Page . . .”

    My question would be – would the name President Trump or, more interestingly, General Flynn be in that redacted space? Could this be an admission which I wonder if Atty. Sydney Powell is hinting at, that the FBI used Carter Page as a tool to continue surveillance of, say, Gen. Flynn”?

    I had to take a few days break from reading the report as I was getting so mad almost every other word out of my mouth was “those bastards” , and being calmer now, more questions arise as I continue reading and hope to have a place we can share with each other these questions, ideas, answers as they arise. Thank you.


  25. Lucille says:

    The insurance policy was likely purchased with the mother named as beneficiary and not the wife precisely because the male suspected the couple may not live after committing the mass killings.

    Mother of San Bernardino jihad mass murderer demands to receive his $280,000 life insurance policy
    December 13, 2019 12:00 PM By Robert Spencer

    Chutzpah. You’d think she would be contrite on her son’s behalf and would willingly forfeit any claim to this money, perhaps donating it to the families of the victims. Instead, this.


  26. mopar2016 says:

    Corn Pop is still their front runner.


  27. czarowniczy says:

    Moslems controlling the Temple Mount have long forbidden Jews (especially) and other non-Moslems from praying at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Indeed, to add insult to injury, the Israeli police have been posted on the mount to prevent non-Moslems from daring to prayt on a site the UN has declared only Moslems have claim to.

    Late this summer Jewish worshipers entered onto the Mount through the only gate non-Moslems are allowed to use to enter to mark the day of mourning for the destruction of the two temples. A fight broke out when members of the Religion of Peace started throwing chairs and stones at the Jewish worshipers. BTW, 37 Molslem were injured and four Jewish worshipers had minor injuries. What is it with these lopsided results when Moslems attack Jews?

    Anyway, it seems the Palestinian terrorist ‘authorities’ and the Jewish police have reached an agreement and just yesterday a group of Jewish worshipers were allowed to conduct a service on the Mount. They were instructed to keep it unobtrusive – they could pray but those praying could not engage in obvious religious movements and have to keep the volume down. Hey, half a bagel is better than none. No word on if this will be allowed to continue but word from the Palestinian terrorist ‘authorities’ is that if the Jewish worshipers get too obvious there will be repercussions.

    The Palestinians need to keep Israel on the fence, they need Israel to stay in place as if it suddenly disappeared they’d have no excuse for their continued historical and lack of progress and accomplishment. They’d also lose a big chunk of those Moslem funds coming in from abroad they get to kill Jews and try to destroy Israel would dry up. Those gutless foreign Moslems who’ve made it rich in the lands of the kuffar would have no reason to continue to fork over the bucks. No Israel, no PLO, no Fatah, no PFLP, just a lot of ex-terrorists vyng for small business loans to open falafel stands.

    Now here’s a campaign idea for Joe Biden: he tells the fundamentalist Moslem crowd here that he’ll make donations to Palestinian terror groups tax deductible and they can send the funds thru a Ukrainian bank managed by some family member.


  28. mandy says:

    “Delicacy is the banana peel under the feet of truth.”


    “Let’s not speak with ribbon on our tongues…”

    from “Design for Living” 1933…..

    What a cute movie (so far)!!!


  29. NoTwoSystemsOnlyOneChiCom says:

    Erdogan has some competition. When your former #2 describes his new party as against “leader cult politics”. And in Istanbul, there might be a future Turkish president in the mayor.


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  31. Lucille says:

    As Christians ready to celebrate Jesus’s birth, Baby Tinslee gets a reprieve, allowing her to live (for the time being) to see her Christmas gifts…

    Court Stops Hospital From Pulling Plug on 10-Month-Old Baby Against Her Mother’s Will
    By Steven Ertelt – December 13, 2019 – 3:46PM FORT WORTH, TEXAS

    Cook Children’s Fort Worth was slated to pull the plug on little Tinslee Lewis against her mother’s will. But pro-life advocates helped Tinslee’s mother fight for her in court.


  32. Bendix says:

    Warning. Not for the weak-stomached.
    What is the secret of Hillary Clinton’s strangely plumped-up-cheeks? Fillers could be behind more youthful look
    Is she running for something?


  33. Sepp says:

    Holy Apostle Andrew the First-called, of the Twelve

    Saint Andrew is commemorated today on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church, which is November 30th (December 13th on the civil / commercial calendar).

    This link is to a list of questions and answers about the Holy Apostle Andrew’s life. The Orthodox Christian Church has lovingly preserved and handed down the details of the Life of Saint Andrew as a part of Holy Tradition, which includes the Holy Scriptures.


  34. David Mitchell says:

    I’ll betcha Biden just winces whenever his staff says, “Mr Vice President, Hunter’s on the phone and needs to talk with you right away…”


  35. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  36. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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