December 12th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1057

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743 Responses to December 12th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1057

  1. Nigella says:

    Looks like we got another Conservative on the 9th Circuit today

    Liked by 7 people

  2. LBB says:

    Looks like Brexit going to happen.

    LONDON (AP) — The Latest on Britain’s Brexit general election (all times local):

    10 p.m.

    An exit poll in Britain’s election projects that Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservative Party likely will win a majority of seats in Parliament.

    That outcome would allow Johnson to fulfill his plan to take the U.K. out of the European Union next month.

    The survey predicts the Conservatives will get 368 of the 650 House of Commons seats and the Labour Party 191 seats. It projects 55 seats for the Scottish National Party and 13 seats for the Liberal Democrats, both parties that want to stop Brexit.

    The poll, based on interviews with voters leaving 144 polling stations across the country, is conducted for a consortium of U.K. broadcasters.

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  3. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  4. patti says:


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  5. patti says:

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  6. hawkins6 says:

    The Impeachment farce is accomplishing all of the Dem’s planned purposes. 1. To distract their voters from the scathing IG Report regarding the Obama FBI’s numerous illegal and conniving misdeeds. 2. Continue to smear and defame Trump from a wide platform that their corrupt media can exploit on their dishonest anti Trump networks. 3. On and on.

    The IG Report should still be the top story but the House Republicans are being forced to mount a powerful defense to the Schiff–Nadler-Pelosi sham. (which many are doing very well again–so Kudos to all of these dogged fighters.) Horowitz revealed many misdeeds by the FBI but as usual he also threw the Dems a few talking point bones to quickly feed to their gullible anti Trump voters. ie-No bias found and Crossfire Hurricane began legally.

    All the Republicans on Graham’s committee gave decent “performances” about being appalled and disgusted by the FBI’s misdeeds but there were no Jordan or Gaetz level examples. Joni Ernst, John Kennedy and even Sasse did quite well in getting to the point. But POTUS has not tweeted one clip from that committee even though Sen. Graham gave an excellent 40 minute or so synopsis in his opening remarks. However, the Impeachment fiasco takes precedence as the Dems had hoped.

    Is it possible that Calm, unruffled and undisturbed Director Wray might be back to playing his Nero fiddle and pretending that all is well and back to normal at the FBI as he watches the Impeachment show trial with glee.


  7. Ellen says:

    Great News! Connor Lamb, (aka sacrificial lamb) of PA-17 in western PA says he is voting FOR articles of impeachment. This is music to my and SeanParnell’s ears. I’ll give Sean another donation to celebrate.

    Liked by 3 people

    • linda4298 says:

      He hesitated for awhile, he must think he is safe.


      • Jim in TN says:

        Let’s all have a pity party for all the Democrats in Trump Districts. They’re having a hard time deciding if they would rather face an angry public for violating their oaths with an unconstitutional impeachment or face an angry deranged left wing of their own party for not breaking their campaign promises about not impeaching.

        Poor poor gutless wonders.


  8. Zippy says:

    Survivors Of Socialism Have A Message For Young American Socialists

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  9. booger71 says:

    This guy was on the Andrew Wilcow radio show today. It is a pretty good read about how the coup might have started.

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    • A very well-written piece … (don’t miss it) … which at the end doesn’t quite acknowledge the fact that “Horowitz,” by his very unique (and rather strange) role, “is not allowed to go … where Durham, Barr, and other Federal Prosecutors can.”

      However, I would kindly point out that “Mr. Horowitz went much farther, ‘in his sideways sort of way,’ than this investigation’s charter might have required him to, had he interpreted it most conservatively.” He filled his report with lines for others to now read between.

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  10. sunnyflower5 says:

    Video of today’s peachmint hearing.

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  11. Sepp says:

    Eddie Gallagher interview

    For anyone who is interested, he is being or was interviewed on the Simon Conway Radio Show on AM radio today.

    It might be available online.

    Liked by 1 person

  12. fanbeav says:

    Not that I will watch…but I bet Chrissy does not ask any real hard questions or interrupt like he does conservatives!


  13. Reserved55 says:

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  14. Reserved55 says:

    Riyadh Saudi Arabia


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  15. Reserved55 says:

    Exclusive: U.S. Army will fund rare earths plant for weapons development

    “It comes after President Donald Trump earlier this year ordered the military to update its supply chain for the niche materials, warning that reliance on other nations for the strategic minerals could hamper U.S. defenses.”

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  16. k4jjj says:

    The Democrats rejoice that the Horowitz report shows the FBI and DOJ are not wicked partisans. They are just incompetent. Relax America. Your system of justice is run by bumbling idiots. What can go wrong?

    Liked by 1 person

  17. You should read this one. Another American journalist writing on … yeah … a Russia-sponsored web site:

    Democrats play havoc with history, cite King Louis XVI in effort to impeach Trump

    “Those very-pesky students of actual history …”

    In case the reader missed the true essence of that quote, allow me to repeat it: “Many officials were impeached for non-criminal wrongs…” In other words, it appears that the Democrats are attempting to build an impeachment case against Donald Trump on the premise that it’s perfectly legitimate to oust a sitting President who has committed no real crime. That radical idea weaves its slippery way throughout the text.

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    • … but also its last-paragraphs conclusion … mind you, written by an American:

      In conclusion, the Democratic report quoted the American lawyer William Rawle who wrote in 1829 that impeachment might be reserved for men who might be “productive of the most serious disasters.” Having perused that line, I couldn’t help but wonder if the “disaster” the Democrats are referencing is nothing less than the loss of the 2020 presidential election to Donald Trump. For them, that would truly be disastrous.

      Increasingly, and tragically, that’s what this latest farce against Donald Trump seems to be all about: the preservation of power in a few hands, even if it means the sacrifice of the Republic.


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  18. Troublemaker10 says:


    President Trump has been discussing with his campaign advisers whether or not to participate in the general election debates in 2020, two people close to the situation told The New York Times.

    According to the sources, Trump doesn’t trust the Commission on Presidential Debates, the nonprofit organization that puts on the debates. Specifically, Trump is apprehensive of who will be chosen by the organization to moderate the debates, the Times reports.

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  19. JAS says:

    This will blow your mind if the jpg comes up. Who has the highest “verified” IQ ever? Don’t know if I believe that though. The website link should be below the jpg.


    • Jim in TN says:

      My, my. Stephen Hawking is pretty dumb according to that scoring. How dare he try to do theoretical physics when he is no smarter than Quentin Taranteno or Dolph Lundgren. Must have just been dumb luck making all that progress and having all that success.

      Hey did you notice the formula says that your IQ drops if you aren’t getting smarter as you age. You have to be twice as smart at the age of 60 than you were at the age of 30, just to keep your IQ constant.

      What a crock!

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    • mopar2016 says:

      Buraq and Holder didn’t make the list.

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  20. sunnyflower5 says:

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  21. A2 says:

    A2 says:
    December 12, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    Canadian Think tank just nominated its Canadian top policy maker of the year. Canadians are waking up.

    Zing. 👍👍

    CCP General-Secretary Xi Jinping as the top Canadian policy-maker? Sadly, yes. Beijing has reshaped Canada in ways that most Canadians don’t fully appreciate, and we ignore Xi’s growing influence here at our peril.

    By Charles Burton, December 12, 2019

    Each year, the Macdonald-Laurier Institute looks back at who or what had the greatest impact on Canadian federal public policy over the past 12 months. That person or institution is named the Policy-Maker of the Year, and always graces the cover of the December issue of the institute’s flagship magazine, Inside Policy. This year is no exception.

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  22. A2 says:


    Refinitiv deployed filter to block Reuters reports as Hong Kong protests raged
    Under pressure from the Chinese government, the financial information provider that distributes Reuters news to investors has blocked over 200 stories on the mainland that could paint Beijing in a negative light. The censorship began earlier this year after Refinitiv feared its China operation would be suspended.

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  23. dogsmaw says:

    Oo this kinda gives football team a new meaning 😛

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  24. dogsmaw says:

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  25. TrueNorthSeeker says:

    Just watched an interview of the turtle (McConnell) on Hannity. In the short interview on the subject of what is likely to happen once the Senate gets the impeachment referral, I counted 6 times the turtle repeated he would do whatever the President’s lawyers want to do. The White House attorneys would make the decisions on how to proceed. I purposely counted each response because it was just so obvious he wanted to make very clear there would be no daylight between he and POTUS’s lawyers. Interesting body language too. Anyone else see it and have an impression?

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  26. Jenevive says:

    Heard earlier this evening on Fox a conversation
    with Jason Chafetz. He mentioned Trey Gowdy
    presenting the case for POTUS if it goes to the
    senate. Something about a rule that one has to wait
    1 year from leaving congress before they can do something
    and for Trey that year will be around Jan 2. Jason said
    it would be good as Trey (as a prosecutor) has never
    lost a case.. hmm I thought there was some reason he couldn;t
    work for POTUS. But Jason seemed to say otherwise.


    • mr.piddles says:

      And Ingraham just pressed Dershowitz on a possible offer he may have received to be on the legal team. Dersh is a hardcore critic of this nonsense, not to mention hardcore into that whole Constitution thing. He was on Levin’s show last Sunday.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      This will be the show of the century.


    • jedled says:

      Yes I saw him on Hannity and he said he’d be in total coordination with POTUS’ lawyers. As to calling witnesses (Hannity specifically mentioned Schiff and the Bidens), Mitch said he’d take his cue from the president’s lawyers. I was concerned that the Senate would rush it through without contesting the lies and BS the Democrats put out in their hearings and I called Cornyn and Cruz today to express my concerns. Maybe a lot of other people made calls too and Mitch felt a need to calm the waters.


  27. Bigly says:

    Comment over on daily caller ..

    Trump never supplied Russia with the material used to produce nuclear weapons.
    Hillary Clinton supplied the Russians with 20% of the United State’s uranium supply.
    Let’s talk about collusion.
    Shall we? And she pocketed the money.

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  28. Reserved55 says:

    Obnoxious Butt Sanctimonious.

    Ya’ll done it yaselves.


  29. IGiveUp says:

    Virginia Lawmakers Threaten 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries With National Guard


  30. sunnyflower5 says:

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  31. linda4298 says: CNN’s Chief Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin responded to Thursday’s House Judiciary Committee impeachment hearing by claiming that “in some ways” President Trump was already triumphant in his battle with Democrats.

    “You know what struck me about this hearing was how Donald Trump, in a way, has already won,” Toobin said while appearing on a CNN panel.

    “How much did we hear about Hunter Biden? Over and over again about Hunter Biden?” Toobin added, referring to the son of former Vice President Joe Biden.

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  32. Perot Conservative says:

    A simple, huge point.

    The intelligence community notified Russia several times of alleged spying, & told them to knock it off.

    But they never notified Trump officials.

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  33. The Boss says:

    Anyone else being spammed by Nikki Haley to buy her book? Five times today! WTF?

    Liked by 2 people

  34. jeans2nd says:

    Oh, bummer for Ol’ Angie

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  35. Troublemaker10 says:

    Dems are gonna have a fun primary. 😁


    AOC-allied climate group announces ‘insurgent’ House primary challenges against incumbent Dems

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  36. Perot Conservative says:

    Body language. She calls M Horowitz a yes man; Sidney Powell calls him a bean counter.

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  37. Troublemaker10 says:

    Kimberly Guilfoyle takes next step with Donald Trump Jr. by purchasing Hamptons mansion


    Guilfoyle has been dating Donald Trump Jr. about a year, but she admitted that the oldest son of President Donald Trump had not put a ring on her finger — yet.

    “Not yet, not today,” she said.

    However, the political power couple have taken another big step in their relationship — purchasing a summer home together.

    Liked by 1 person

  38. Jimmy R says:

    I’d opined that if Horowitz were a just and courageous man, then he would call a spade a spade and recommend indictment of many of the members of the coup. He didn’t. He listed their crimes and then mumbled something under his breath.

    Horowitz is a just man, but he’s not courageous; he’s a coward. You can hear the timidness when he spoke on Wednesday. (He sounded like Henry Winkler doing an ad for a charity. Speaking in a soft voice, “Would you please notice these reasons to give to this charity?….”) He was a very nice man, willing to list crimes people commit but not to announce at the top of his lungs that they have committed these crimes. He can’t call a spade a spade. He’s afraid to do so.

    Of course, as Aristotle and St. Thomas Aquinas might have predicted, Horowitz’s cowardice hampers his justice. He couldn’t go all the way to 100% justice because of his cowardice. A just yet cowardly man. He didn’t let the republic down, yet he did.

    Nevertheless, Barr and Durham have the report. So, justice has only been delayed. Barr and Durham have all the facts. Nothing has been lost. Now all that matters is whether Barr and Durham are just and courageous men.


    • Robert Smith says:

      I heard a radio interview with a guy, don’t remember his name, sorry. He was a career prosecutor that had at one point worked with Horowitz. This was about a year and half ago and he was pushing a book he had written. He said Horowitz was a straight and very competent guy, but would not rock the boat. Pretty accurate assessment in retrospect.

      Yes, I know that was very short on specifics.


  39. BitchyPants says:

    Looks like Fat Naddy could not take it anymore
    Sent everyone home to ponder things
    He looks like he is about to kill over –

    Liked by 1 person

  40. A2 says:

    Tortes passed the 326 mark, now 332 and results still coming in.

    Election called for the Conservatives. Enormous victory.
    Well done!

    Liked by 1 person

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