December 12th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1057

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743 Responses to December 12th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1057

  1. sunnydaze says:

    Does anyone have a YT segment (not tweet) of that Dem Donor waking Nadler up yesterday to bang the gavel?



  2. Reserved55 says:

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    • jeans2nd says:

      That is so sad. Bernard Kerik must feel his heart breaking all over again. This is New York City, exactly, before Mayor Guiliani and Bernard Kerik took office, and they both worked so hard to turn things around.
      Prayers for Ms Majors’ family.
      thx 4 the tweet

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    • mopar2016 says:

      Dumbocrat policies on display.


    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      That park separates the Barnard/Columbia University campuses from Harlem. The park is probably infested at night. In the NY Post article a student says the school warned students that the park can be dangerous. I wonder if this poor young victim was living on the Harlem side of the park where it was probably a lot cheaper to rent a place, maybe going home after classes or heading to the school for an evening class, and cutting through the middle of the park because it would be so inconvenient to go all of the way around it. She was from Charlottsville, maybe she didn’t understand just how dangerous New York can be. It was only 5:30pm but the sun sets so early now it was nighttime.

      Women have always been prey and still are, but the current SJW culture brainwashes young people to think that they are bad if they are suspicious of thugs, meth heads, and misogynist muzzies. Hey, they’re just like us, right? We’re doing young people, especially young women, a great disservice when we fail to teach them to be afraid. We’re putting their lives in danger.

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        Daily Mail: A 16-year-old boy, who police sources described as a known robbery suspect, was initially taken into custody from a nearby housing project not long after the attack but he was released without charge on Thursday.

        He was reportedly wearing a green jacket that was similar to one that a witness claimed one of Tessa’s attackers was wearing.

        There was also a trail of blood leading into his apartment which police sources described as a ‘hub of criminal activity’.


        • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

          Her father is Inman Majors. He had a twitter account but it appears to have been deleted. You can still see some of what he had posted via cache. He’s a rabid Trump hater, anti-GOP, and still thinks Muh Russia is real. Reminds me of Mollie Tibbetts’ libtard parents.


      • InAz says:

        @ Super Elite Lt. Col

        I have to keep pounding into my daughter that people are dangerous…. especially the ones you mentioned.
        Even though I home schooled her, she has lefty beliefs….I don’t know how she got them. Drives me crazy

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  3. DesertRain says:

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  4. MfM says:

    This is a great video from Millie Weaver. The interviews were done at the Giant Center in Hershey, PA., earlier this week.

    Any Democrat listening to this should know Trump’s supporters aren’t dumb or stupid. Great mix of varying views and all sorts of people.

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  5. Reserved55 says:

    Some of these lies you have probably forgotten

    41. March 8, 2018:
    The New York Times’ Jan Rosen reported on a hypothetical family whose tax bill would rise nearly $4,000 under Trump’s tax plan. It turns out the calculations were off: the couple’s taxes would go actually go down $43; not up $4,000.

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    • MfM says:

      Some people did take a hit, and they think it’s because they live in places like CA and NY and Trump hates them. While in reality it was people in areas with high property taxes taking a hit with the Property Taxes now having a cap on the amount. They were used to deducting $$$$$$$$ and now they can’t. On some of the bigger wage earners they didn’t gain in other areas to make up for it.

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    • dallasdan says:

      The lie was temporarily useful and effective in advancing a false premise to damage the President. The later correction likely had minimal impact. It’s how the opposition rolls.


  6. youme says:

    The Boston City Council unanimously passed an updated version of the Trust Act, which prohibits local law enforcement from detaining someone solely over a civil immigration detainer requested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    The updated law strengthens limitations on informal information sharing between police and ICE and mandates training to make sure police officers know the requirements and the limitations of the Trust Act, which was first past in 2014.Meanwhile in the real world:

    Meanwhile in the real world:

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  7. Zippy says:

    Ep. 1133 They’re Still Covering Up This Major Scandal. The Dan Bongino Show 12/12/2019.


    • Zippy says:

      Perhaps conveniently, Horowitz only examined emails for two months prior to the claimed origins of Crossfire Hurricane.


    • Zippy says:

      Watch segments from Horowitz’s testimony showing him nearly slipping to give CLEAR soundbites on the dossier versus the OBFUSCATED answer he gives when he “corrects” himself. Starting at 23:32.

      Also, Debossier is Dan’s new suggested name for the Steele dossier – “debunked dossier.”


  8. lawrencepaul1 says:

    “If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate, you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
    Winston Churchill.

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  9. burnett044 says:

    we hear Russia Russia Russia…look over there the boogie man….
    Well I say……

    Liked by 6 people

  10. Perot Conservative says:

    *** BREAKING NEWS ***

    China Suffers Biggest Dollar Bond Default By State-Owned Company in Two Decades
    Bloomberg News
    BloombergDecember 12, 2019, 7:51 AM UTC

    “(Bloomberg) — A major Chinese commodities trader became the biggest dollar bond defaulter among the nation’s state-owned companies in two decades, in a moment of reckoning for Beijing as it struggles to contain credit risk in a weakening economy.

    “Tewoo Group Corp. announced results of its unprecedented debt restructuring, which saw a majority of its investors accepting heavy losses. This is expected to reshape investors’ perceptions about government-owned borrowers whose identity has for years offered a relatively strong sense of security.”

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  11. lawrencepaul1 says:

    Something I often ponder.
    Why do stupid people look stupid? I mean before they even open their mouths or put their shoes on the wrong feet? They just look stupid.
    This guy is one of them.

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  12. youme says:

    Ali Watkins back on the beat:


  13. jeans2nd says:

    Steve Bannon on CNBC this morning 2:41
    “He’s (the President’s) going to look to be exonerated,” said Bannon.

    “His (the President’s) followers believe that what he did was correct. It’s what he was hired to do.”

    “The Democrats were hoping the numbers would move against the President.”

    Bannon remarked that a major error made by Speaker Pelosi was holding up the new USMCA trade deal.

    “Holding USMCA to right after you impeach him signals this thing has been on your desk for one year and we lost one year of benefit to the American people.”
    Bannon is another blowhard who talks too much.
    But Bannon is still 100% MAGA, and still speaks with the President, from time to time.

    And the part about Pelosi sitting on USMCA for a year is going to be hammered home.

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  14. lawrencepaul1 says:

    If they’ve got any sense they will. But then they are democrats so there’s that.

    Impeachment Ringleaders Quietly Panic As Moderate Democrats Bail


  15. dawg says:

    I think I need another Sundance post on this question. Whats REALLY going on with the imeachment and how is it going to play out?

    So Pelosi said a while back that she would only impeach if it was bipartisan. Well its bipartisan AGAINST impeachment right now.

    At the time, Rush Limbaugh said that even if she had the 216 (4 vacancies so 216-215 would impeach) votes to impeach, she wouldnt do it. Now Limbaugh saying that because they are so deep into it, if she got any number in favor of impeaching she will probably take it.

    Meanwhile, President Trump saying it should never come out of the House, but that if it does, he wants a full trial to be able to call all the witnesses, and throwing all the big names out there, Biden, Schiff, etc, etc…But is he really saying that in order to DETER a trial in the Senate because he knows the Senate knows all the dirt that could come out from a trial?

    Then we have McConnell saying last week, we have to have a trial, blah blah blah, but now seems to be parsing his language a bit saying we need to have a trial in order to acquit.

    And then we have Graham saying publicly he wants to squash it immediately with no trial, for obvious reasons. (Although part of me thinks this is the best way to go, because it keeps McConnell from gaining any leverage over PT.) But, now, Graham is on record publicly taking a stance in opposition to President Trump on this specific matter.

    So Im trying to understand what the McConnells and Pelosis and Schumers and Grahams and even the President REALLY wants to happen.

    There seems to be so many moving parts, its hard to know.

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    • Johnny Boost says:

      Pelosi’s best move is to either drop this entirely or hold a censure vote and let that be the end of it. She’d be wise to cut her losses. Christmas is coming up and then in a month or so it’s primary season. People have short memories and come March or so this would all be a distant memory. There’s too much risk to the Dems and even for the Reps if this drags on for months.


    • dawg says:

      Hmmmm….spit-balling here,

      …maybe the Dems purposely wrote the articles of impeachment in a vague way, not naming Ukraine at all, so the R Senate can look like they are allowing PT to defend himself, but really they are limiting it. The Senate is playing both sides, saying we will hold a trial so the Pres can acquit himself, but because the way the Articles of Impeachment are written, PT wont be allowed to call any witnesses like Biden etc… “because its not relevant”.

      This signals to the House Dems that you can hand the impeachment on over to us and we wont expose anything. Meanwhile, McConnell gets to keep his leverage over Trump, Lindsey gets to keep his skeletons hidden, and the Dems get to label PT as “Impeached” to placate their base.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        Your instincts are correct. They are actually helping Shanghai Mitch compile a laundry list of reasons to “legislate” a declaration that the Articles of Impeachment are a null set and therefore do not meet the constitutional criteria for a Senate Trial.

        As I commented before to your question, up thread, I do not trust McConnell’s motives here. This would lead to a lawfare inspired court case, which results in the “quality of charges” in the Articles of Impeachment being decided before the Supreme Court. That’s right, the impeachment trial would essentially be done before the Supreme Court and not the senate. All the senate would have to do is rubber stamp the findings of the SCOTUS.

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        • thedoc00 says:

          This is the constitutional crisis we have discussed here on CTH the democrats desire. Then it comes down to the vote of Justice Roberts.


        • dawg says:

          But what would be Mitch’s argument against not just a having a vote to dismiss? Wouldnt that be the Senate’s remedy to the situation? What would be the argument that it must go to the SC?


          • thedoc00 says:

            They would challenge on the constitutionality of “legislating” an end to the Impeachment Process, especially if Mitch did not have 2/3 of the votes of members present to pas his legislation. The would claim, the House performed their duty and delivered “substantiated” articles of impeachment for the Senate Trial and Mitch’s legislation declared the Articles as unsubstantiated WITHOUT a trial and actual hearing of evidence. They would actually have a case no matter how weak the evidence supporting the Articles of Impeachment.

            The other option as described below is for Mitch to allow the Trial to Start and make the motion to dismiss.

            President Trump needs to draw up his witness list and have HIS attorney’s ready because I do not trust McConnell nor the senate.


    • SHV says:

      “I think I need another Sundance post on this question. Whats REALLY going on with the impeachment and how is it going to play out?”
      I’m waiting for the same explanation post. I’ve been reading portions of transcripts of Johnson and Clinton Senate trials and Senate Ruled for Impeachment and best I can tell Mitch and Lindsey are blowing smoke. From my non-lawyer reading of the Senate Rules, once the House presents the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate, the process is set in motion for a trial. I guess it’s possible that Mitch could introduce a resolution to change the rules or somehow short circuit the process but I suspect that there are at least four Repub NO votes to block that move.

      In the Clinton trial, after the House managers presented their case and the President’s team rebutted, a motion to dismiss was made by Sen. Byrd which failed and the trial continued. I would anticipate that a similar motion would be made by Mitch and I haven’t a clue how that vote would go. A balls to the wall trial would expose too much Uni-Party dirt so the Dems might want to declare victory and shut it down “for the good of the country”.

      An interesting possibility and not too far fetched, is that a motion to dismiss is made and the vote is 50-50, with Romney, Collins and Murkowsky defecting. The tie break vote would be up to John Roberts, acting as the Senate Presiding Officer. How would Roberts vote??

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      • thedoc00 says:

        Actually since they did not charge the VP, he is the “president” of the senate and will be at the Trial, your scenario describes. He gets to vote.

        Chief Justice Roberts is NOT the presiding officer of the senate, just the impeachment trial.


    • aisheschayal says:

      I think this is all very fluid. Probably a lot of backstage negotiation going on right now. Not that PT is worried about any impeachment, but he may be using many aspects of leverage to get some things he wants out of this such as USMCA. He uses every crisis as a means to turn it to good for the American people.


  16. joebkonobi says:

    If at first you don’t succeed. . .Hillary Clinton, Chris Steele allege Boris Johnson is a Russian stooge.

    Globalist Cabal much?

    Liked by 2 people

  17. Magabear says:

    Rush just summed up nicely what I was going to write about later today. Whether the GOP Senate decides to dimiss this bogus House impeachment or hold a trial, don’t do anything because of how you think the demonrats or the demon media will react to it. Anything outside of removal will result in the predictable howling from the left, so just do the right thing.

    As much as I’d love to see cretins like Schiff, Nadler and the fake whistleblower put under oath, I don’t have confidence that most Republican Senators can (or will) make the most out of that opportunity and will instead get out manuevered by Schumer and have the whole thing turn into a Schifft show.

    For that reason, I’d rather they just dismiss this sham and stick in the House demonrats faces.

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  18. Battleship Wisconsin says:

    If the Democrats in the House voted to censure President Trump rather than to impeach him, and if the Senate then took up the resolution for a vote, would Senators Romney, Collins, and Murkowski be likely to vote with the Democrats for a resolution of censure?

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  19. Bogeyfree says:

    This is why there must be indictments Mr. Barr.

    Otherwise their reward will always outweigh any risk and it NEVER ENDS!

    Liked by 2 people

  20. Quaecumque Vera says:

    Donald Trump is not just a great President. He is one of the greatest leaders in human history, maybe the greatest. So, 2020 is for all the marbles. If President Trump is reelected, Western civilization gains some breathing space to continue. If he loses, the fascists—yes this is what all those in the Democrat party are–will be so emboldened utter tyranny will follow. Knowing these are the stakes, should mean that everyone who values freedom should put everything they can on the line for this most remarkable of Presidents.

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  21. We will be the Deplorable Impeachables

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  22. Nick the Deplorable says:

    FBN announcing phase 1 trade deal with China has been reached and only waiting on President approval.

    Liked by 1 person

  23. wildsailor2018 says:

    Stanton (Dem) – “we are here to vote on these two articles because no one is above the law.”


    • wildsailor2018 says:

      Escobar (Dem) – “the president could be here today to prove he is innocent but he is not.” In other words, guilty until you can prove yourself innocent. Welcome to the new RED America I guess.


      • gabytango says:

        PROVE he is INNOCENT?? How about THEY prove President Trump is guilty?? We haven’t seen that yet, have we?? These D-Rats have completely lost it and are now running totally back-asswards! It is “Innocent until PROVEN GUILTY!” I have never felt such fury in my life.

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        • I simply think that the Democrats are doing everything in their power to prove that what they are doing qualifies as a Bill of Attainder. Let them just go on record, time after time, demonstrating that they intend to deny the President the entire(!) “due process of law.” They’ve based the entire move on the supposed testimony of a secret witness, blocked all attempts to cross-examine that witness, demanded that the accused testify against himself while denying the presence of counsel … all while insisting that what they are doing is legitimate.

          I want to very soon be able to rub their noses in this while standing before the US Supreme Court. Because I want something to happen which will cut off this thing at its foundations and ensure that it will never happen again … by affirming what the Constitution already explicitly says about these things.

          “No Bill of Attainder […] shall be passed.” (1.9.3.)

          The Founders of our nation clearly foresaw that this day would come. They wrote very extensively about it. They structured their document carefully against it. Now, it is the task of our generation to demand that it really is “the Supreme Law of the Land.” Because, if we do not do this and do it decisively, there will be no end to it in the future. These people are never going to stop. They must be stopped.


    • Trumpmendous says:

      But when a Democrat does something you have to prove intent.


  24. Perot Conservative says:

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  25. NJF says:

    So they’re just gonna ignore it. Just like muller


  26. Reserved55 says:

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  27. Perot Conservative says:

    Are we tired of Winning yet?

    1. USMCA close
    2. China Phase 1 close
    3. DOJ removes 2 corrupt (?) lawyers
    4. 266,000 new jobs
    5. Massive China Bond default – State owned?
    6. Impeachment imploding
    7. Japan deal (Diet) passed in Japan
    8. UK nationalist movement seems to have grown; more elections coming.
    9. Sparkle socks lost 72,000 jobs in Canada
    10. Durham & Barr letters

    Not me!

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  28. Reserved55 says:

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  29. dwpender says:

    Wouldn’t a ruling from Judge Sullivan excoriating the prosecution be a nice Christmas present?

    Liked by 2 people

  30. sunnyflower5 says:

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  31. Reserved55 says:

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  32. InAz says:

    The Commie’s whore media is working hard to attack AG Barr and discredit all he says

    Claim Horowitz report exonerates FBI, Trump campaign guilty of being Russian puppet, Trump needed to be spied on etc etc etc.

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  33. linda4298 says:

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  34. Mo says:

    Joe DiGenova Victoria Toensing are on Sabastion Gorka LIVE radio show and Rudy Guliani is coming up next. Joe gives his opinion on how the Senate impeachment will go saying Lintsy wants to throw it out with no trial and the turtle wants a trial and to present every accusation the democrats have made since the inaguration. Then aquit the President of all of it so the next time the democrats try to impeach the President the senate just says take a hike because double jeopardy. Wild

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      Nothing against DiGenova, Toensing, Gorka, and others, I do think they are fine people, but they have not been good prognosticators. So I’m not even listening to them any more. I’d rather hear from parties with firsthand knowlegde like Trump, our Senator and Representative allies, Barr, Powell, etc.


    • k4jjj says:

      I agree the President has a constitutional right to a FULL TRIAL and a right to put on ANY and ALL witnesses and evidence, even if it takes SIX MONTHS. If the DC crooks want an all-out war, President Trump should give them a war they won’t believe. When it’s over, most of the Senate and House will wish they had never been born and the CIA and FBI will have no credibility left. Nobody will ever again trust a thing happening in Washington DC.


  35. lawrencepaul1 says:

    The democrats have been dragged into a sewer by these people.

    Rep. Tlaib Blames “White Supremacy” For Shooting Carried Out By Black Supremacist Group

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  36. Perot Conservative says:

    WISWO = what is Sundance working on?

    Cross-checking IG report w / various docs?

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  37. Bob Guzzardi says:

    Two Hours Ago !!!!!! All four Stock Market Indexes, including broad based, Russell 2000 and now this!!!!!!

    Robert Lithhiser and Wilbur Ross negotiated the USMCA and now this!!!!!!

    U.S. Reaches Deal in Principle With China, Awaits Trump Sign-Off
    Bloomberg News
    December 12, 2019 02:10 PM

    U.S. negotiators have reached the terms of a phase-one trade deal with China that now awaits President Donald Trump’s approval ( MGN Online )
    U.S. negotiators have reached the terms of a phase-one trade deal with China that now awaits President Donald Trump’s approval, according to people briefed on the plans, Bloomberg News reports.

    Trade advisers are set to meet with the president at 2:30 p.m. to discuss the agreement. An announcement could come as soon as this afternoon, the people said. A White House spokesperson declined to comment.


    President Donald Trump said the U.S. and China are very close to signing a “big” trade deal, sending stocks to new records on expectations that a tariff increase planned for Sunday will be called off while talks progress.

    “They want it, and so do we!” he tweeted five minutes after stocks opened in New York.

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  38. youme says:

    Wall Street banks and regional lenders could see an increase in the $250 billion they have to spend annually to meet U.S. requirements for doing business in lower-income communities as regulators prepare to overhaul the Community Reinvestment Act.

    The changes, set to be proposed Thursday by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., would increase demand for lending by big banks, the regulators say, but they would get preapproved lists of qualifying activities that could eliminate a lot of the guesswork that is currently required.


    • Your Tour Guide says:

      Pray to all that’s holy that this isn’t part of
      The Community Re investment Act. Don’t
      know where to start or end on how much
      it invariably sucks wherever implemented.

      Bush 2 did ONE useful thing during his tenure.
      Because it was useful, it naturally was shot down.
      He wanted to wind back the Community Re Investment
      Act because of the wasteage and duplication. It got
      torpedoed. Slush shovelers must have their slush
      to shovel.


  39. Bob Guzzardi says:

    As all four Stock Market indexes, including the broad based Russell 2000 hit record highs and unemployment hits record lows.

    So long as Democrats so nothing, the USA is safe and prosperous. 👍

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  40. Nick the Deplorable says:


    • linda4298 says:


  41. Troublemaker10 says:

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  42. linda4298 says: Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-TX) pointed out in the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday morning that President Barack Obama’s administration had asked foreign power to investigate then-candidate Donald Trump in 2016.

    Ratcliffe was responding to a challenge from Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA), who asked whether any Republican was prepared to defend the idea of the president to asking a foreign government to investigate a political opponent.

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  43. aisheschayal says:

    Possibly good news from across the Pond! General election 2019: Tories on course to win majority – exit poll. Early exit poll: The Conservatives are set to win an overall majority of 86 in the general election, according to an exit poll for the BBC, ITV and Sky News.


  44. LouisianaTeaRose says:

    Tom McClintock (R) Texas just simply and eloquently laid out the argument of D’s folly of accusing Trump of obstruction as FALSE, that he has a right to petition the third branch of government (Judiciary) to resolves tensions between the other two branches, that one branch CANNOT DEFINE THE LIMITS OF IT’S OWN POWER, and he illustrated the separation of powers as well, which completes the basic argument that Dems ain’t got jack shit to work from as they continue to pursue the farce.

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    • Sprawlie says:

      Tom McClintock is one of the few gems among the turds that make up the California congressional delegation so I do feel the need to point out he is from CA-4 and not Texas.

      Liked by 1 person

  45. winky says:

    How long is this Soros SOB gonna be allowed to run our country into the ground and influence our elections? .

    Liked by 1 person

    • freespeechfanatic says:

      The reward exceeds the risk. Take the maxim and apply it anywhere. Until risk exceeds reward, nothing habitually corrupt will change.


  46. Arrest Soros says:

    HERE ‘TIS enjoy

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