Carter Page Discusses the IG Report and His Probable Lawsuit Against DOJ and FBI…

Former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page discusses the details of the IG report, allegations of FISA court abuse and his future plans to sue the DOJ and FBI:

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75 Responses to Carter Page Discusses the IG Report and His Probable Lawsuit Against DOJ and FBI…

  1. FofBW says:

    Should be suing Obama and his DOJ folks

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    • J.Thomas says:

      Has anyone figured out who Case Agent 1 from the IG Report is?

      – Halpers FBI handler
      – responsible for the woods file for the FISA
      – interviewed the Dossier source 1

      This person is the most culpable of the FBI folks.

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      • Jan says:

        Per TechnoFog, I think it’s Joe Pientka:
        TheLastRefuge Retweeted
        Techno Fog
        ‏ @Techno_Fog
        5h5 hours ago

        IF SSA 1 is Pientka (who participated in Flynn interview)… He knew “the information from Steele’s reporting about a Russian consulate being located in Miami was inaccurate”

        Go to TechnoFog’s twitter. He has a list of things Pientka was responsible for on the original FISA warrant application on Page.

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    • JonMaxwell says:

      Carter Page admitted he knew of a fisa on him before joing the Trump campaign, on WMAL…

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      • BitterC says:

        I used to think of him as Typhoid Mary, but if he KNEW there was a FISA on him before he joined the campaign, that’s more like someone with AIDS continuing to have an active sex life

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  2. nimrodman says:

    I don’t usually watch the videos here (I’m more a reader than a listener), so I just discovered via a Breitbart article what it was that Clinesmith forged in the FISA application:

    “FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith doctored an email that proved that former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page was working with the U.S. government — not against it as a Russian agent …

    Wow – puts the lie to the “Russian agent” aspect for Page

    Were they claiming similar for Papadopolous?

    I don’t think so, I think they were claiming that PapaD was being FED by a Russian agent – Mifsud?

    Who also turns out to be working for Western intelligence, I believe

    Just tidying up loose items in my understanding

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  3. xcontra says:

    Very hard to listen to. This Carter Page guy really IS a moron. However I hope his court case rips the gonads from a bunch of those DOJ/CIA bigshots.

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    • I don’t think he is a moron, but he sure has a hard time directly answering a question so it always leaves me thinking he is still some kind of spook.

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      • nimrodman says:

        I think he’s wired funny

        I’ve had friends who you can tell they don’t think “right”
        They’re wired funny

        When you’d expect a linear thought process of “if this and this, then this”

        Instead you get “if this and this … then THAT … or THAT” (picture grasping wildly at butterflies)

        Wired funny

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      • Truth and Liberty says:

        It’s not that he can’t articulate it the issue is he can’t fully elaborate on the questions. There is much more still to come out and he can’t get into or completely answer while the investigation is still ongoing. He as much as said so stating that there so much now exposed and being exposed in response to several statements. Morons don’t graduate Annapolis, go on to get masters at Georgetown, a MBA from NYU and finally a PHD from SOAS in London. Poor choice of words a poor speaker, aloof or many other things but a moroon he’s not.

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    • Zorro says:

      https://ballotpedia.org/Carter_PageM

      Carter Page was a Trident Scholar and distinguished graduate of the United States Naval Academy. He earned an M.B.A. from New York University, received a Ph.D. from the University of London, and is a certified chartered financial analyst (CFA).[2][3

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      • Tl Howard says:

        Page’s scholastic record and degrees suggest a facile mind for mathematics but his verbal fluency might be quite a bit less. I say “might” because I too am not convinced that he isn’t simply good at pretending to be “different” in order to avoid answering questions.

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    • Petrel says:

      xcontra — no moron ever graduated near the top of his Naval Academy class. So why does Carter Page not answer questions directly ? Why does he suddenly veer-off in his answers ?

      Over the last 30 months, we gradually learned that Page worked “undercover” for our security services — notably against 3 Russian agents. As such, he was undoubtedly required to sign a non-disclosure agreement, which is why he could not answer certain questions directly. Think about it. The FBI had an original, or a copy, of Carter Page’s non-disclosure agreement. This gave the FBI a unique hold on his hanging-mute-in-the-wind even as he was trashed by the Press, the FBI and by the Justice Department.

      The Inspector General’s report has now established Page’s background of service to the FBI and CIA — and thereby blown his cover. Page’s lawyers will be working overtime to regularize his new cover status as a “former undercover asset,” which will permit Page to answer questions directly.

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    • Spooky says:

      I have heard him interviewed several times and have always thought geez I hope he isn`t a typical Naval Academy grad cuz if he is that would explain the rash of major warship collisions that have plagued the navy.

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  4. ARW says:

    Page was spying. I’m convinced of it now…he’s trying to Telegraph that fact.

    Page meets in March 16 w FBI regarding previous work. Informs them he volunteered for Trump and they then started investigating him….or did they, page and fbi, conspire to insert page into the campaign via volunteer route and then use the ruse of an investigating him to collect information.

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    • dawg says:

      I agree, I came to this conclusion myself just since the IG report came out. I think he was a willing participant to the surveillance at first. But then they burned him to get the FISA and thats the part that he didnt expect.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      Here how I think this went down:
      1) Brennan orders up a media covfefe about Trump’s lack of foreign policy advisors.
      2) Brennan group at CIA instruct their asset Page to approach the Trump campaign as a “foreign policy advisor”. Trump campaign foolishly bites, just so they can claim to have advisors. These “advisors” do nothing campaigny; they wander off and play with themselves.
      3) With a wink and a nod, CIA tells Comey/McCabe/Strzok at FBI, “Look, look, that Page guy is connected to Russkies!” FBI has the barnacle attached to the Trump campaign that they can target for a FISA warrant.
      4) After an initial failure, CIA assets Glenn Simpson/Fusion GPS/Nellie Ohr create a dossier of gossip and hearsay. They hire Steele to market it as his own work product. FBI uses it as it’s main evidence to get the FISA warrant.
      5) The plan is not so much to collect actual information, but to harm Trump by leaking that the FBI was investigating Russian agents associated with his campaign.

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  5. LouisianaTeaRose says:

    I have been stewing on this FISA thing since Sundance threw it out there yesterday.

    I WANNA KNOW HOW THEY WENT ABOUT THEIR PROCESS TO AUTHORIZE THE SURVEILLANCE OF FLYNN, MANAFORT, AND PAPADOPOULAS.

    Lots of holes, people. Lots of holes.

    Just wondering what Barr/Durham have in store for the actors running the grill that cooked this shitburger.

    Also, is there anyone out there who knows if it is possible to track high-suspicion subjects in order to keep them from leaving the country before their number comes up?

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  6. dawg says:

    Good Lord Almighty. Trying to listen to him literally gives me a headache. I dont think he answered one single question of hers with any clarity.

    Im convinced he went into that meeting with the FBI on March 2 2016 where they told him he was now going to volunteer for the Trump campaign and that they would be watching and listening to him. He was a willing participant, just doing his duty to help his country. Then in the fall they threw him under the bus to get a FISA and burned him. Thats the part he didnt expect.

    Thats why he is so dodgy in all his interviews. He knows a lot more than he has revealed.

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  7. Sonia says:

    Isn’t Carter Page the ‘asset’ referred to by Peter Strzok and Lisa Page when they told Congress that a text they exchanged referring to an “insurance policy” against a Trump presidency was a reference to a discussion about potentially “burning” a longtime FBI source in the event of an aggressive investigation of the Trump campaign?

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  8. Ironclaw says:

    I hope Mr. Page goes after the crooks individually rather than institutions. We don’t need the taxpayer having to pay a settlement for those crooks.

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  9. DesertRain says:

    So… on March 3, 2016, Page meets with NY FBI agent and says.. 1) If he testifies in 2013 case, his testimony will not match what is written in the complaint. 2) says he is joining Trump campaign as volunteer.

    Jan 26, 2015 FBI announcement of charges in Russian Spy Ring case…

    Familiar names…
    Eric Holder, the Attorney General of the United States, Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, John S. Carlin, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, and Randall C. Coleman, the Assistant Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) for the Counterintelligence Division,

    https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/newyork/news/press-releases/attorney-general-manhattan-u.s.-attorney-and-fbi-announce-charges-against-russian-spy-ring-in-new-york-city

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    • Mongo Mere Pawn says:

      Interesting. If you combine this official FBI press release of January 26, 2015, announcing the arrest and indictment of Evgeny Buryakov, with the official DOJ press release of March 11, 2016, announcing his guilty plea, it is clear that John Carlin knew exactly who Carter Page was when the National Security Division of the DOJ filed both the initial rejected FISA application on Page and then the original approved FISA application on October 21, 2016. Not only does AG Holder specifically reference the SVR’s attempt to recruit spies as a basis for the arrest of Buryakov and expulsion of Sporyshev and Podobnyy, the indictment itself makes attempting to recruit New York City residents as intelligence assets one of the counts.

      Carlin headed the NSD at the time, and is praised by Holder for the NSD’s work in assisting the US Attorney for SDNY in indicting Buryakov and breaking up the espionage ring headed by Sporyshev and Podobnyy, in which Page was instrumental because their attempts to recruit him were used against them by using Page to introduce electronic surveillance into the very offices of the SVR in New York City. There is simply no way Carlin did not know that Page was an undisclosed employee of the FBI whose attempted recruitment by the SVR had been UNSUCCESSFUL, and now we understand that Page may actually have been on loan from the CIA for this sting, a fact Klinesmith a year later altered an email to insure that the FISA court continued to think Page had been successfully recruited.

      In the original October 21, 2016 FISA application, Comey and Yates sign off for the FBI and DOJ, respectively, using cherry-picked facts about the attempted recruitment of Page by the SVR in the Buryakov sting to suggest to the FISA court that the SVR had successfully recruited Page as an agent of the Russian Federation. Although it is possible that the redactions in the application disclose the SVR’s lack of success, that seems highly unlikely unless there is also an explanation for how the SVR managed to turn Page after getting blown out of the water by the sting, particularly since the prosecution of Buryakov and, in particular, the March 11, 2016 DOJ press release clearly give the SVR enough information to realize that Page was the source for the critical electronic surveillance.

      This is truly the smoking gun, and Carlin was holding the trigger. He was head of the NSD during the preparation and filing of both the rejected and originally approved FISA applications. And he was also dealing with the audit ordered by Admiral Rogers, filing a mea culpa with the FISA court regarding the subcontractor abuse at the same time. Carlin ties everything up in a bow.

      Add to this the new information from the video that Page met with his Buryakov handlers on March 2, 2016, and told them he planned to join the Trump campaign as a volunteer, and it is crystal clear the FBI and NSD decided to use Page as their pretext for electronically surveilling the Trump campaign. Klinesmith’s altering of evidence makes this clear, particularly if he assisted in the Buryakov prosecution, so would have known Page was a US intelligence asset all along. This also probably explains why Preet was the only US Attorney to refuse to resign. He likely needed time to cover some tracks.

      If Durham does not have the full Buryakov file, he should get it ASAP.

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  10. gsonFIT says:

    Hard not to be on his side. A little goofy but seems like a lovable good guy.

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  11. Right to reply says:

    I just want to point out, that eccentrics are the spies of choice. Who would believe Carter Page was gathering intel? Who would believe Patrick Byrne (eccentric) would be gathering intel? Chosen because they appear moronic, and harmless…Play a fool, catch a fool.

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    • dd_sc says:

      Remember Chuck Barris of The Gong Show fame? Eccentric as all get out.

      For years he claimed to be a CIA asset (even an assassin) and people just laughed. Might have to rethink that after seeing Page and Byrne. And who better to spy on Hollywood than some goofball who meets with the money people to get his game shows off the ground.

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  12. keithinmissouri says:

    It’s obvious that Carter page knows a lot more than he is willing to talk about. The guy was working for the CIA and/or the FBI and was involved I assume in some pretty deep stuff. He strikes me as a guy who is walking a tight rope in an effort to clear his name but also not violate his agreements with the agencies he was working for.

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  13. john another says:

    Do any prosecutors look for for ‘bias’? Don’t they look for illegal activity? Given Carter Page’s experience with the IC and certainly knowing (the entire bent of said IC at that time) that his declaration to work for DJT would elicit full on tracking, how was Carter Page not a CHS with the entire two-step into the Republican campaign?

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    • Sonia says:

      I suspect Carter Page was playing for both teams.
      Strzok told lawmakers in a closed-door deposition on June 27, 2018 that investigators were discussing whether to aggressively pursue the investigation at the cost of exposing a “very sensitive source” who had provided evidence of possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Carter is probably your man.

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    • Sonia says:

      Carter was probably working for both sides, one for real, the other pretend.
      Strzok told lawmakers in a closed-door deposition on June 27, 2018 that investigators were discussing whether to aggressively pursue the investigation at the cost of exposing a “very sensitive source” who had provided evidence of possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Carter is this source?

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  14. Gabriel says:

    No one should feel the least bit sorry for this guy. Carter page is an absolute weasel of the highest order.

    The reason this guy comes off as a complete moron, and his words don’t come out right, is because he needs to come off as the victim, but at the same time, not peave off his Deep State/FBI handlers less they destroy his life like they did so many others.

    Carter Page assisted the FBI and their DS handlers in a classic case of “bump-and-run” surveillance. Carter Page and the FBI know how this works because it’s been tried and tested and perfected way before Trump even came on the scene.

    Carter Page announces to his FBI handlers, ( that he’s well documented working with in the past ), “Hey FBI handlers, listen !!! I am off to RUSSIA to go speak to some RUSSIANS that are most likely connected to PUTIN and the KREMLIN !!! Did you guys hear that, you want me to repeat ?!?! I Gee, I sure hope that doesn’t throw up any red flags and get myself and everyone that comes into contact with me, put under surveillance when I come back and volunteer for Trump campaign !!!, Right ?!?!?” ( wink win, nod nod ).

    This guy is a snitch, a rat, pond scum. I read on here some time back about how it was even possible for Rosenstein to sign off on the Carter Page FISA warrant without even reading it and never once did I read the reason may have been because Rosenstein knew, without a doubt, that Page was on their side, part of “Le Resitgence !”.

    Please don’t shed a tear fraud and phony.

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  15. evergreen says:

    Uh, remember……
    She was GOING to win. No one who wanted a future in serious business was going to join Trump’s team. The word was out that Trump collaborators would be outcasts. I read comments to that effect about Durham allegedly from Holder. If true, there you go. It’s how these jerks operate.

    So, once again, why would Page join the Trump team and be the silver bullet for Strzok? You realize that, no? Calculating, scheming Strzok used Page as the lever into Trump. Do you think for one second that this was pure coincidence? He was placed there.

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    • Raptors2020 says:

      Joe DiGenova had a theory, shortly after the 2016 election, that after her landslide victory Hillary was going to get even with Trump for “Crooked Hillary” and “Lock her up!” by launching a massive investigation of Trump’s dealings with Russia. Trump’s name would be blackened, all his people would have huge legal bills. The Steele Dossier was drafted as groundwork for that.

      That does explain why everyone in Washington had heard the whispers about Russian collusion, but no one went public. And why Papadopoulos was fingered in July 2016, but not interrogated until January, 2017. Carter Page provided a convenient vehicle for election espionage. The inquisition was supposed to launch after the election. When Hillary suffered her shocking defeat, they went ahead with the Russia hoax, anyway.

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      • PMadison says:

        Absolutely. The solitary cell Manafort is sitting in right now was originally reserved for Trump. I have no doubt after their ‘inevitable’ win Team Hillary planned to make an example of Trump and anyone of consequence who supported him to ensure no outsider ever tried this again.

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  16. TradeBait says:

    I only care about Carter Page if he can drive another nail in the DS coffin.

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  17. X XYZ says:

    For months, if not years, I’ve heard Carter Page speak when interviewed on talk radio, usuallyand often on Hannity. Every time he spoke he was always nebulous, notably disingenuous. It seemed as if he could never commit to affirming anything. It sounded like he was afraid to do so, to say anything much, or take any stance. As if what was happening to him didn’t bother him much, if at all.

    I thought that odd. Highly unusual or extraordinary. Any ordinary person would or should be outraged at what supposedly happened to him. But none of that was never expressed or heard from him, coming from his lips. Very odd, indeed. WHY is that?

    Now I (we?) get to see his beautiful face, and connect his voice with his visage. Now we get to see the entire picture, to see the entirety of him.

    He’s a G-man, bought and owned. Shaved head, and all. Maybe he has a collection of wigs in his closet? Like spies do? Easier to don one that way and change his persona. Chameleon like.

    I wouldn’t trust this swamp rat as far as I can spit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page

    Mr. Carter Page is still playing out his Faustian bargain. He’s a “made man”. I hope he gets what he deserves eventually. He probably will. Time will ultimately turn the page on Carter Page. Good riddance, Carter.

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  18. Eric Thedeplorable says:

    We have been unable to see the forest, because the trees have been blocking our view.

    Page was just confirmed as a confidential CIA informant(spy) by Horowitz. Graham questioned him about it on live TV yesterday. Do not be fooled by the stupid look on Carter Page’s face.The CIA does not use idiots as informants. The IG report states the FBI did not insert an undercover agent into the campaign, but that they did in fact use undercover agents to speak to and record(spy on) members of the campaign. This is true. The FBI did not plant a spy. It was the CIA who inserted the undercover agent into the campaign. It was Carter Page! Then the FBI “spied” on the CIA’s planted spy.

    FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith altered an email from the CIA to the FBI which verified he was a CIA informant. He changed it to say he was not an informant, then passed this along to the FISA court to get a warrant. The altering of the email by Clinesmith is being portrayed as a crime against Carter Page, when in fact it was the FBI providing cover for him as a CIA informant! Of course the FBI did not tell the FISA court that Carter Page was a CIA informant. Not only would it prove he is not a Russian agent, but it would also expose the CIA for planting a spy. Altering the email also created the perfect low level fall guy(Clinesmith) in the event that the coup was ever discovered. Has anyone heard a peep about any serious jail time for Clinesmith after this damning revelation? I am sure the payoff is worth whatever brutal disciplinary action Wray is going to take.

    Page has been running around playing the dumb victim. In the beginning, he was all smiles on Hannity and all he wanted was to make sure this never happened to another president again. He didn’t seem to want anything to do with suing or holding anyone accountable. It was very odd and it frustrated everyone watching, including Hannity. He only recently started talking about taking legal action, and that still hasn’t happened yet.

    Obama had the CIA plant a spy inside the Trump campaign, then had the FBI get a warrant on that spy in order to cover up that illegal move, while at the same time providing a “legal” basis to spy on other members of the campaign. There was never a real potential Russian agent in the campaign, so they had to try to create one so all of the focus was not on their spy. They targeted George Papdopoulus. They even charged him with the crime of lying to the FBI. To this day, Page is still being portrayed as the victim to cover the fact that he is a spy, he has never been charged with a crime, and he has not sued anyone.

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    • gsonFIT says:

      Wonder why he risks exposure by doing all the TV interviews. You would think that he would remain quite like Mifsud or Halper if he was opposing Team Trump. Also the few clear comments he makes during interviews are in support of America and Trump. I dont know the answers but it is very curious

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      • Eric Thedeplorable says:

        A spy trying to maintain his cover usually pretends to be on the side of the person they are/were spying on.

        Several things are certain. He was a CIA informant and he was inside the Trump campaign. The CIA knew it, the FBI knew it, he knew it, and all 3 of them knew that the other 3 knew it. The Trump campaign did not know it. Now we all know it.

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        • gsonFIT says:

          I think he is military intel and was put in place by Admiral Rogers or General Flynn. Preet Bharara interviewed March 2 2016, Rogers ceased contractor surveillance something like March 7 and Carter Page joined candidate Trump March 26ish.

          Why would Rogers uncover the contractor 702 abuse and walk away? Why havent FISA judges spoken out? Why was Contreras recused? Might have even been Flynn that put Carter Page in place. No need for him to talk to Halper for another year unless he was looking at Halper. Also NSA became part of military command.

          I think he came to look at 702 and FISA abuse and stayed for the cover up and coup. He is not an informant like Mifsud or Halper he is a real undercover military intel spy playing a undercover informant for CIA/FBI.

          Just guessing but it seems to fit better than him being a CIA snitch

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    • NJ Transplant says:

      Eric – I have been thinking the same thing for quite a while now. Why did Carter Page threaten a restraining order if the IG report was released? Only the targets of the report get to review it to defend themselves. Page was not a target. He wasn’t even interviewed. Page was the CIA spy who was planted inside the campaign. Why did Page volunteer to work for free for the Trump campaign? Carter Page also kept up communication with Stefan Halper for months after the supposed initial communication. Carter Page will have a hard time winning a lawsuit when he was a willing participant.

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  19. HickTick says:

    I don’t think you clearly see what Carter Page did . He was a planted spook , he was dismissed from the Trump team but the FBI had him keep up the e-mails so they could keep renewing the warrant . He is mad because he got little pay and bad press ,Don’t feel sorry for him , he is no victim .

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  20. Skidroe says:

    X XYZ. I agree with you 100%.

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  21. X XYZ says:

    If Lisa Page marries Carter Page – she will still be Lisa Page. Right?

    “OH, Lisa! I love you so much Lisa”!

    Wow! This can be the next new soap opera! ***As The Page Turns.***

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  22. Fools Gold says:

    My impression is Page writes much much better and clearer than answering questions on TV. My bet he’s also afraid to answering a direct question for fear of be prosecuted for blabbing about all the intelligence work he’s been involved in and anything he says wrongly puts him in the scolding heat. That sure would help him, Trump or us. I also think he enjoys acting like a dummy who can’t focus on the simplest questions.

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  23. PMadison says:

    I want everyone in the FBI responsible for violating Page’s rights to be punished … except one. Whoever was assigned to listen in on all of Page’s conversations has already been punished enough.

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  24. It is telling that Papadopoulos long since has a book out about what was done to him during the 2016 campaign, but we hear of no such endeavor on Page’s part.

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  25. BitterC says:

    Carter Page Discusses the IG Report and His Probable Lawsuit Against DOJ and FBI… KINDA 🙂

    That guy is just impossible to interview. Did anyone learn ANYTHING new after 12 minutes (aside from Mar 2 mtg resulting in some kind of case being opened on him, but that’s cuz I haven’t read the full IG report yet)

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  26. Sonia says:

    Carter was a member of the FBI team, so the FISA warrant was not aimed at at him. The FBI applied for a FISA warrant on Carter Page to get to Trump’s emails via the 2-hop rule. If found out, Carter was expendable.
    The most worrying part of this whole episode is why the Inspector General of the United States failed to interview Carter Page. If he had done so, the can of worms would have been opened.
    No one asked Horowitz this question at his congressional testimony on Wednesday. Why not?
    Carter Page is central to this FISA investigation, but not interviewed, and no one is asking why?

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Exactly ! Inspector clousseau-horowitz is llowed to interviewanyone who will answer questions, but none of his 400 merry “investigators” thought to ask carter page any questions. Horowitz is a swamp-protecting maroon.
      There needs to be a FISA Warrant on horowitz, going back 13 years.

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  27. Carter Page is an egghead. Just look at his head shine. Just listen to his brain jump. This guy is probably a great analyst, and he’s gonna get a big pile in a lawsuit because no one will hire him now. His lawyer will probably keep him off the stand. Twice Maria had to rephrase a question into a short bullet point.

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