IG Horowitz Senate Testimony on FBI FISA Abuse During Election – 10:00am ET Livestream…

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary hearing entitled “Examining the Inspector General’s Report on Alleged Abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act” will be held today at 10:00am Eastern.

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1,794 Responses to IG Horowitz Senate Testimony on FBI FISA Abuse During Election – 10:00am ET Livestream…

  1. Reserved55 says:

    Conclusion, The Deep State did not get to ‘select’ the President.

    Therefore the Republic must be destroyed.

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  2. nimrodman says:

    Lindsey Graham: “I hope SOMEBODY holds them accountable”

    That was YOUR job, Lindsey
    .. and did you?

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  3. patti says:

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  4. Somebody's Gramma says:

    Deep Staters gonna deep state.

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  5. Justin Green says:

    Well, I’m glad they blasted him pretty good about the bias and established that no Deep State operatives were vindicated, lol.

    Between Democrats calling for the FBI to investigate more political opponents and their Muh Rushan Clooshun questions, they did rather poorly.

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    • G. Alistar says:

      They were taken out to the wood shed and beat like a red-headed step child. Oh, I probable should have said the dems were bean like a rented mule. Want to be politically correct, of course.

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  6. wightmanfarm says:

    The Senate make me sick !

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  7. Ausonius says:

    From a Clem Kadiddlehopper sketch c. 55 years ago by Red Skelton:

    Farmer: Clem, how did you get to be so stooopid?!

    Clem: Duh, it was easy! I got friends in Congress! 🙂

    It would be hard to find anything more fitting as a commentary upon our present-day DEMS and RINO’S.

    Except… I believe at least some are very much aware of their disingenuous and malign behavior, and think the rest of the country is stupid. They are at least partially correct: the ones who voted them into office are truly “stooopid.”

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  8. Niagara Frontier says:

    The media coverage from today’s hearing can me measured with an egg timer. They’ve already moved on to talk about tonight’s House committee mark up of articles of impeachment. Expect breaking, gavel to gavel coverage.

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  9. Joe says:

    Useful math. Assuming that the “mistakes, omissions, . . .” that occurred during the FISA process were, as Comey et al insist, not the result of bias, one has only random variation remaining as an explanation, in which the probability that a “mistake” would inculpate Page is equal to the the probability that a mistake would exculpate him. In that case we have a situation identical to that of flipping a coin: two outcomes, heads and tails, each with equal probability if the coin is truly not biased in some way.

    If we limit the number of important mistakes to the 17 that Horowitz listed, we get that the probability that 17 random mistakes would inculpate Page is the same as the probability of flipping 17 heads (or tails) in a row, i.e., 2^17 = 131,072.

    One chance in one-hundred-thirty-one thousand that there was no bias operating.

    Uh-huh.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Horowitz admitted, to Kennedy if I recall correctly, that either all of those “mistakes” were the result of massive incompetence, or they were intentional.

      If the former is posited, then the FBI was being run by idiots. But of course, it was not. It was being run by the most senior, experienced, credentialed lawyers and LEOs available.

      Ergo: it was intentional.

      This was a close as Horowitz got to stating there was “bias”.

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      • WRB says:

        It is fuzzy, but I remember Horowitz saying there were so many people involved, and there could be a range between intentional wrongdoing and incompetence, so he did not want to assign a single cause. I took that to mean “Heh, leave me out of this. You or the DOJ or the FBI has to figure it out.”

        But it is very clear that there was intentional wrongdoing by some of the actors. The question is: were all of them in on it? Possibly there was incompetence on the part of one or two.

        For example, consider the lawyer that insisted that the FISA application state the providence of the Steele material, which resulted in the cryptic footnote that did not clearly state that the DNC/Clinton campaign was responsible for the information. So I think that lawyer folded or backed down. Was he in on the plot or just a push-over? (If that is the extent of his misfeasance I would just fire him, not try to put him in jail.)

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    • Chimpy says:

      After looking at those long odds, Elizabeth Warren is looking more and more Indian to me.

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    • mimbler says:

      That is correct if the flip is random. My experience in the Federal government showed me that lazy, incompetent mistakes always result in less work for the employee.

      In other words, incompetent employees would have trended towards mistakes which would have led to Trump’s campaign -not- being investigated (less work for the employees).

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  10. Reserved55 says:

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  11. IGiveUp says:

    “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    Uh oh. It’s beginning to look like we’re a little short on “consent of the governed.” I wonder if Mr. Horowitz and the austere honorable Senate panel is getting a whiff of that.

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  12. Bryan Alexander says:

    Interesting that Horowitz did not identify the CIA as the agency that Carter PAge cooperated with/worked for. I guess it would not look good that “The CIA inserted an agent into the political campaign of Donald Trump.”

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      Per prior threads at CTH, Horowitz’s report says in two places that Carter Page was working for the CIA. Page numbers and footnote numbers were cited. That the CIA inserted an agent into the Trump campaign is bigger than anything else in the report, yet crickets.

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      • nyckers says:

        I hope Page gets $100 million in compensatory and punitive damages and they start proceedings to strip Brennan of immunity or indemnity. Prison and the poorhouse. The rest of us have to endure and pay for the most inane and baseless litigation if we’re unlucky enough to have that experience. Brennan appears to have betrayed every aspect of his oath of office and destroyed lives.

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    • WRB says:

      It is only a suspicion that Carter Page was “inserted” by the CIA. It is possible he wanted to support Donald Trump, and the FBI targeted him because he had Russian contacts.

      So we can smell a rat, but it will take some deep investigation to prove it, especially because it is illegal for the CIA to operate domestically. If that is what is going on, the country is in deep trouble.

      Having said that, I would not be surprised if he was “planted” (or encouraged or suggested to join) by “friends” who were affiliated with the CIA

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  13. Right to reply says:

    Perhaps JW should do a FOIA on how many FISAS were used on Obama

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  14. Reserved55 says:

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  15. zorrorides says:

    As the hearing neared its end, (I think it was with Senator Blackburn) IG Horowitz was asked about how he actively sought information as opposed to passively waiting for the FIB to give him documents to read. (Has my bias transformed the truth behind my statement?)

    Horowitz answered that he had a “hotline”. “Were there many calls to the hotline that helped you look for or find needed information to further your investigation?” Horowitz answered that there were no calls into the hotline system. (Readers, did I get this right?)

    Please, my dear friend Sean O’McHannity, please stop saying, “That 99.9% of FIB agents are good patriotic professionals of bravery and moral strength and we are not criticizing them.”

    There were no calls made into the FBI investigation hotline! In generosity, let’s move the decimal point and praise the 9.99% of FIB agents who may deserve our appreciation for good work.

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    • fanbeav says:

      Excellent comment…I would move the decimal even further to 0.999&

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    • Kenji says:

      Your decimal move is FAR more generous than mine. Speaking of “whistleblowers”. They’re blowing something alright … each other.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      This operation was run from the 7th floor of Headquarters. Nobody was involved in the posse that ran this op that wasn’t “vetted” by the corrupt leadership as being willing to participate.

      So far, none of them have flipped because they haven’t been indicted.

      Time for some indictments 🙂

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    • ann says:

      The line is probably wiretapped. If you rat us out , we will get you.

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    • 4gypsybreeze says:

      Why would someone who worked for the FBI go to the auditor with info? I know I wouldn’t. I would find the “right” people to talk to (Durham) in the Department who could actually DO something other than put the info on paper in a report. Actually that is a smash on Horowitz….that no one would talk to him.

      Kinda like at work in classes on Sexual Harassment they always said you can talk to Supervisor….or go to Regional Office. Hilarious. People would take it to the Regional office. Get that complaint as far away as possible. Who knows what that supervisors relationship, etc. is with the person they are making a complaint against.

      Could see that happening in this mess. Has to be a high level of distrust on all levels of the FBI.

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      • plane of the ecliptic says:

        For evil to survive, good men do nothing. The rank and file in the FBI just don’t want to make waves. If you speak out of place you end up stationed in Baltimore or Fargo. Remember all those rank and file guys raiding Roger Stones house. How come the rank and file did not ask Stones Lawyer to just turn him in? How about all the rank and file working on the Mueller report?

        Did any rank and file stand up and tell Hoover not to spy on MLK, JFK, the Attorney General, et al? History just repeats itself.

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    • Zorro,
      I am writing after some break after I was given a “friendly advise” by a “friend” who works for one of the alphabet agencies. Per him,. I am a good man but caution me whom I talk to and what I talk about. He thinks that i am a “Fox” guy and tells me that you know that Fox is breaking quite few a laws. Long story short, he kept on touting about how “we” are trained to”analyze” and was hung up on candidate Trump joking on live TV that R***is, if you are listening …” . It is unbelievable and I don’t see one rank and file lifting a finger to shut down this coup against our President.

      The indoctrination is way too deep at the rank and file level.

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      • 4gypsybreeze says:

        New American—what a way to prove to you that indeed there is some nasty stuff going on with the agencies, spying and such.

        Document your conversation. If it continues I would advise you to contact someone in Durham circle. Present your documentation.

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        • zorrorides says:

          Breeze and American, do we understand that the ABC ‘friend’ was warning you that Fox Broadcasting might be in trouble with the Law (friend’s Agency) but, in softer tones, that YOU should be careful about what you say and where you say it?

          In other words, “Hey you’re right about what’s wrong with the country, and shut up or we’ll get you too.”

          I think most of us here in the Treehouse accept that this is the condition we are in now. Either P Trump beats them as our representative, or…

          or God raises up another man to defend and lead us, his people.

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  16. I admire anyone who watched this and also thanks for doing so. It sounds really boring and idiotic…the Senate has no good people in it. Well, I still like Rand Paul. What a bunch of crooked deep staters…off with their heads!

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    • Eaglemom says:

      They really needed to drive home the point that the FISA warrant gave the FBI access to anyone else who had contact with Carter Page.

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    • The Boss says:

      Jerome Powell’s presser was more interesting. Intelligent questioners for the most part too.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Sorry. Don’t concur.

      I was rather impressed be several of the GOPers, including Kennedy, Tillis, Blackburn, and even Sasse.

      You are letting your emotions get the better of you. Understandable…but exploitable.

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      • 4gypsybreeze says:

        Same here. They stayed into the substance of the report. Not just the magic “bait word” (bias) and then continued to press…ok…opening it we can accept (kinda)…but now lets talk about what happened afterwards…you know, the FISA application. If people did watch it all….they must have questions about what happened with the 2nd, 3rd and 4th FISA application. One can hope.

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    • 4gypsybreeze says:

      little flower…actually the first half was a little boring. Then the second half was a lot more lively! And my mobile device kept going in and out. But I did manage to catch the majority of it.
      Dems kept bring up whistleblowers, AG Barr and Durham. Amy Kloubacher did a bit of poli ticking on what she is doing, etc. it was like–huh? Maizie is still dumb as a rock. Kennedy had some down home humor. Cruz asked some good questions. Appeared that the Democrats didn’t read the report. Just did what their focus group whispered in their ear…that major word…bias. Like a don’t look any further into the report everyone….just use the word bias. Obvious Rabbit Hole that word–bias.
      But the best of it is that thanks to Sundance, the majority of it all….we Treepers already knew the info..

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  17. bertdilbert says:

    Well if there was no bias involved, then there is no need for bias training.

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  18. John Doe says:

    I’m probably biased (🙄) but I thought the hearing was extremely informative and that Horowitz was pretty forthcoming when the right questions were asked, which was infrequently. Bottom line, I really do think people are going to go to jail and I sincerely hope that includes Comey and McCabe. Obama knew and he needs to pay too. BTW…Epstein didn’t kill himself.

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  19. CM-TX says:

    Thank you Ted Cruz for calling a spade, a spade! 😁

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  20. hokkoda says:

    As you talk to friends and family, maybe post some politics on social media, etc. I think today is the day we can officially, unequivocally, based on independent investigation by an Obama appointee declare with 100% certitude:

    – The Russia Collusion investigation was a hoax.
    – The FBI knew as early as September/October 2016 that it was a hoax.
    – The FBI and DOJ proceeded to “investigate” the hoax despite overwhelming evidence it was a hoax.
    – Multiple FBI employees directly lied to the public and under oath because it is now clear that they knew the whole case was fraudulent…but proceeded with the investigation anyway. These same people also directly lied to President Trump in 1:1 meetings, defensive briefings, etc. about both the nature of the threat and their knowledge that the whole thing was a hoax.
    – All of the spying claimed by Trump since early 2017 is TRUE, to include “confidential human sources” (human spies), as well as the most intrusive electronic surveillance available to the intelligence community and law enforcement.
    – Every major media outlet in America at some level is complicit in the perpetuation of the hoax, and in the slander and libel of anyone who dared question the official narrative.

    There was spying. That spying was illegal. Everything that followed was ALSO illegal, up to and including the Mueller investigation which has not been touched by Horowitz yet. But, it’s just a matter of time now until the Flynn, PapaD and Stone convictions potentially get overturned as byproducts of the poisoned fruit. The last FISA application was approved after Mueller’s appointment, and the people most directly involved in the setup of Gen. Flynn are the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who were directly involved in the falsification of FISA evidence. Flynn’s name appears in the IG report 83 times, and always in the context that the investigations of Flynn, PapaD, Manafort and Page were all directly intertwined with what is now, officially, a fraudulent and illegal investigation of a hoax.

    Mr. Durham, sir, burn these people to the ground.

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    • Reserved55 says:

      👍👍

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    • J.Thomas says:

      Yes. Horowitz did a service to our country. The man has integrity despite being a leftist. He really dug into the issues and produced relevant facts. Those facts turned history on its head, vindicated the Trump people and really condemned both the media and the coup cabal.

      It’s really stunning what Horowitz has done here. I can hardly believe it. God bless the man.

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      • hokkoda says:

        Yep, I said awhile go, “Expect the worst, be pleasantly surprised to be wrong.” I am pleasantly surprised. Thrilled really. I never expected Horowitz to claim that the senior leadership of the FBI overtly acted in a political manner to overturn an election. That’s way out of his lane and way above his pay grade anyway.

        Think about every time you mentioned one of those bullets above to anybody in the blogosphere in the last 2.5 years. Or, any time somebody brought one of them up in a TV interview or in the paper. We were called agents of Putin, liars, wacky right-wing conspiracy theorists, just plain crazy, you name it.

        Suck it, Liberals. Your guys got caught, and all your Deep State allies and Big Media allies are now proven liars.

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    • lewfarge48 says:

      Nice summary
      Thanks

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    • Boots says:

      Mr. Durham, sir, burn these people to the ground.

      Mr. Durham, sir, please seek the death penalty for these seditious, traitorous, treacherous enemies of the United States, and do everything in your power to win the prosecution.

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      • hokkoda says:

        I’ll take serious jail time. My emotions say hang the bastards, but realistically, if we want convictions, go for jail time…serious, serious jail time. I heard a leak that James Baker (ONA) is the guy who leaked the Flynn SIGINT transcript. That’s 10 years, $10,000 per offense on the security clearance forms. The fines can go even higher too. I think Petreaus got fined $100,000 for “confidential” which is the lowest classification level and probation not jail time. SIGINT leaks? If he really did do that, they can hang him by his nuts from the ceiling.

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        • Baker should be the first to be indicted – it looks like he could be an easy target and possibly one that might flip rather than having Bubba his cellmate for 10 years.

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          • hokkoda says:

            Clinesmith, I think, due to the direct and easy to prove change he made to the FISA. Leaks are tougher to prove, but I do think if they’ve narrowed that SIGINT leak to Baker that he is in some serious #@#$.

            I also think he’s the guy who played the role of Perkins Coie to funnel CIA money to Halper (playing the role of Fusion GPS) to hire Mifsud (playing the role of Steele). It feels like they tried to air gap the money flow and tried to create plausible deniability that Mifsud was a taking orders from the CIA.

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    • 4gypsybreeze says:

      Oh I am really going to have fun! Too bad this didn’t happen before Thanksgiving. I would have probably been kicked out of the house.

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      • 4gypsybreeze says:

        Horowitz gave them the kindling for that fire. Now it is up to Durham to light the match.

        I am not interested in it being fast—I am interested in it being done–and being done right. Indictments–nah….I want convictions. So do it right or we will wind up looking like the Democrats are today….–ok…will be nice and put what I REALLY want to say they look like.

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  21. Reserved55 says:

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  22. islandpalmtrees says:

    The Hearing appears to be winding down. Total and complete waste of time and Lindsay Graham needs to be removed from having anything to do with the impeachment trial.

    They had their opportunity to completely destroy the impeachment coup today and they did nothing but their best to cover it up.

    The people involved in the coup have not been prosecuted nor indicted or even named by IG Horowitz.

    We are looking at a Congress that is nearly totally corrupt and President Trump has stood in the way of their getting that money from sources outside of the United States.

    Our very own State Department helps to launder that money or should say fund raising from sources outside of the United States.

    They must think that we, the citizens of the United Sates, must not see, nor understand what they are doing, based upon their willingness, to lie, to our faces.

    I for one wont to see the FBI, DOJ and most of Congress fired or prosecuted for corruption.

    I will vote to reelect “Trump”, even if I have to write his name in.

    As for the rest of you scum bags – find a different job!

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Nonsense!

      The GOP did an excellent job of validating that the FISA process was a complete fraud. That it was totally supported by the phony Steele dossier. That the FBI knew that the dossier was worthless, and in fact had it confirmed to them by Steel’s source for the info before the first renewal.

      The got the IG to state that the FISA “mistakes” had to be either: rank and massive incompetence by senior and experienced FBI managers and agents, or, intentionally done. Although the IG would not speculate on the motivation for doing it [the “bias”] he was, to my eyes, heavily leaning against the “incompetence” excuse.

      The ball is in Trump and Barr’s court now. I’m sure we all hope that the time for action is nigh 🙂

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      • willthesuevi says:

        Nonsense back.

        So they finally did their job. About damn time.

        You know PRESIDENT Trump cannot touch this without getting destroyed in the court of public opinion. The only court that counts as far as his re-election is concerned.

        Besides, this crap started when President Trump was candidate Trump. He wasn’t responsible then. Congress has oversight over these bureaucratic clowns. Yes POTUS is responsible NOW but that clown Sessions made sure he could not do anything without said action looking like undue influence.

        I, for one, want to see ALL of the Republican congress get off their asses and do the right thing. They keep hoping Barr will save them from having to do their jobs. There are several things they can be doing to show a unified front.

        Take a page out of the leftists playbook and start playing for keeps. Screw the high road.

        I am with Sundance with respect to Barr. Show me. The only reason most of these Senators are getting tough on this garbage is because they see the polls favoring POTUS.

        Yes, Barr has a job to do, but that doesn’t relieve congress from their duty.

        I do agree with you that the time is nigh for some friggin’ action and less words.

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      • Garavaglia says:

        Eh..latest statement was late spring..early summer. Not exactly nigh.

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        • willthesuevi says:

          Yep, Now I understand why all my legal bills (business) are about triple what they should be.

          If the legal dept was drawing up plans for D-Day, they would still be trying to figure out where in Normandy to land. Eventually, coming to the conclusion that doing nothing at all is the best course of in-action.

          It becomes necessary in the history of every project to shoot the engineers and lawyers, and start production.

          Now that I have offended most of my friends and neighbors I better get back to work.

          Cheers.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        The ball in case you haven’t noticed has always been in President Trump’s court. Not only has he managed to produce the best economy in US history. He did it, while dragging the asses of the GOP behind him. To say nothing of the active Obstruction of the Democrats. We have high hopes for Barr. But, where are the prosecutions?

        Nonsense, is right when you don’t realize just how little they, the GOP has done regarding FISA with just a few exceptions. To many GOP members, are to concerned about those fat pay checks coming from those Fundraisers, coming from those sources outside the US borders. The GOP would do better to remember they represent the American Citizen.

        A great many private and small on-line sources have worked hard to reveal the FISA corruption. You may wont to give them credit!

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    • You can’t handle the D.C. problem by having D.C. handle it.

      You need
      a) outsiders, like President Trump
      b) downsize the federal government
      c) relocate function across the US, away from D.C.

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  23. J.Thomas says:

    The IG did a fantastic job. I understand that all of you wanted this guy to come out in a MAGA hat and call these people coup plotters, but you need to be realistic.

    He gave Barr everything he needs. The ball is in Barr’s court. Barr has them over a barrel on so many different things here, including defrauding the FISA court.

    This IG report is likely the most significant IG report in the history of the United States. There is so much to go through here with so many ramifications.

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    • 6x47 says:

      The Inspector General is an internal watchdog to insure the organization he oversees is complying with the law and its own internal rules, regulations, and SOP’s. He is an auditor – something akin to a process coach. An inspector who makes sure procedures are being followed, documentation is correct, and file retention is in accordance with the rules.

      He isn’t a prosecutor. The assumption is the people he’s inspecting are honest and want to do a good job, if they’re missing the mark he’s there to provide guidance and recommendations to close gaps and improve performance.

      IG Horowitz went into the FBI/DOJ to conduct an audit and found such shocking, massive, gross irregularities there is no possible way they aren’t evidence of a criminal conspiracy. This is unprecedented, in all likelihood. This wasn’t a matter of using outdated forms, or not getting all the signatures on a document before filing it.

      This was something altogether different. Hence, the decision in this case to forego making criminal referrals and just kick it all upstairs to AG Barr and US Attorney Durham.

      Something big wrong bad happened under Comey.

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      • J.Thomas says:

        Yes, the IG is a process auditor whose job it is to analyze process and make recommendations. His job is not to be political. He has done such an impressive job here that I am actually surprised, but in a good way. He served the people very well here. He is an honorable man.

        This report is so shocking that anyone who takes an honest look at it is never going to look at law enforcement the same. These people corrupted the most intrusive aspect of the FBI.

        We haven’t yet seen what they have done to the CIA, NSC and NSA. Clapper and Brennan…you’re up. Better find some Beach Friends.

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        • As a man thinkth says:

          …As I recall, Oboma had suspended the IG function at DOJ…Later,
          Sally Yates denied IG access over the counter intel group….IMHO, both of these factors should be considered in conjunction with the timeline of an “Insurance Policy ” and misdeeds associated with FISA abuse…

          Essentually, They simply turned off the lights and tried to keep everyone in the dark…obviously, they never expected PDJT to survive this long…

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    • David Vicknair says:

      Barr/Durham will build their case out from the IG report. The coup plotters should have felt a cold shiver down their collective spines when Barr stated wryly towards the end of his WSJ interview yesterday (in the context of widespread impatience over a lack of indictments) that, “These things take time.” The remark was greeted by a round of laughter from everyone off camera as if they immediately realized what he meant. Barr grinned and laughed also.

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    • Sayit2016 says:

      thanks for being the voice of sanity.

      Even if Horowitz didnt come out in a red MAGA hat. 😉
      come out in a red Maga hat

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  24. Amber says:

    House GOP >>>>> Senate. I missed the House Republicans today…Jim Jordan, Radcliffe, Gaetz.

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  25. butch cassidy says:

    Graham concludes by saying this is not over, we will have more of these. Well if they are anything like this one, don’t bother, or better yet get some other people to ask questions.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Nonsense.

      Many of the GOP Senators acquitted themselves very well.

      It is now an established fact that the FISA Court had a massive fraud run against it, and that unless one wanted to cop an massive “incompetence” plea — then that fraud was intentional.

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      • butch cassidy says:

        Wasn’t this an established fact when the when the report was released? I guess we have a difference of opinion on what questions should have been asked.

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  26. Payday says:

    Maybe the IG is clever as a fox. By wailing about the non evidence of bias…the left/media is accepting there’s actually a problem here. We know…it’s a coup. It does change the impeachment narrative though. Now just go get em.

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  27. Amber says:

    Thankfully the President will be represented by own counsel in the trial and wouldn’t have to rely on Senate Republicans

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  28. Austin Holdout says:

    IMO, Horowicz’ role in this process is very limited. He is like an HR guy who was tasked with finding and reporting all of the facts and stating whether anyone violated “company policy” without the slightest bit of partisanship. Expecting him to go beyond those facts and policy violations and draw the same inferences we’re all drawing here in the Treehouse would be asking him to be a partisan, exactly what the FBI did all wrong in 2016-2018. I did not get the impression that he was hiding or obfuscating at all and I don’t think he deserves blame because the Resistance found ONE line in his 434 page report to hang their hats on. I found him forthcoming with all the facts and violations he uncovered. Without stating his inferences, I think he made it clear that he was disgusted with what happened. His boss (Bill Barr) is allowed to draw inferences and he made the rounds yesterday making it pretty well known what he infers from the facts. I don’t agree that nothing except indictments are acceptable signs of progress. I think this was a very bad week for Dems and the writing is on the wall about Spygate and all they can do is wait for the other shoe to drop. I’m keeping the faith.

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    • Boots says:

      I don’t agree that nothing except indictments are acceptable signs of progress.

      Nothing short of aggressive, vigorous, unrelenting prosecution will deter DS and the Congressional Communists from repeating their coup in the future. Even jail time isn’t sufficient to deter. It’ll only be a badge of honor for the communists here.

      The nation has 3rd stage pancreatic cancer. It must be cut out, killed with radiation and chemotherapy, and utterly removed from the body politic. A few lethal injections after appeals are exhausted are what’s needed, not a few months in club fed. That’s how serious this disease is.

      The next Democrat president will begin stage IV. The only hope to eradicate will be the armed citizens who stand and rise to the difficult but necessary task of removing the cancer and saving the patient.

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    • babrightlight says:

      I think what is irritating everyone is his comment that he found no political bias. Since he didn’t really look into the “intent” of personnel–but more of how well they followed prescribed procedures (or gross lack thereof), he should have said that he didn’t investigate “political bias”. If you’re not investigating intent, how can you discern if political bias was present? Maybe he threw that in there so he’ll still be invited to DC parties.

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  29. Payday says:

    The all star today was Hawley. The new Jim Jordan of the senate.. Man was he good!

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  30. Reserved55 says:

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  31. patti says:

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  32. Brutalus says:

    We were right…and they were wrong forever

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    • J.Thomas says:

      Yes. The Russia Collusion Hoax is in the books as exactly what Trump said it was.

      It’s also exactly what Nunes said it was.

      “Democracy Dies in Darkness”…becomes the ironic tag line of the corrupt Resistance who perpetrated this nonsense. Nunes, Gowdy, Kash Patel and the House Intelligence Committee are now ensconced as heroes for civil liberties in our nations history. Horowitz has done his part as well. Lets see what Durham has to contribute. Those people told the story, its up to Durham to bring justice.

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  33. john says:

    Some type of Durham report has been commonly mentioned throughout this thread. Correct me if I am wrong, but Prosecutors dont generally write reports that are then made available for public consumption.

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    • Reserved55 says:

      Correct, I think it was Sundance who pointed it out yesterday.

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    • Proud American from Texas says:

      I’ve seen way more reports written concerning DoJ and FBI, that tell what occurred, followed by “prosecution was declined”, than I care to.
      Barr said a report would be up to Durham.
      All that said, I want to see indictments.

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    • 4gypsybreeze says:

      Barr addressed the “report” yesterday. He was non-committal on whether there would be a report. As Sundance said earlier. Prosecutors don’t write reports for the public.

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      • zorrorides says:

        I had a feeling that AG Barr tends toward having the prosecuting team, Durham and those assigned as his assistants, to prepare and deliver a comprehensive report on the coup against the President to us, the American people.

        And the Report won’t wait until every indictment and trial has been finished. Just a few of the ‘big ones’, then the Report comes to explain, then the nation can watch and keep score while every culprit gets sentenced and new information uncovers the next culprit to be brought forward.

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  34. There is just no good place to post this but somebody gave Nancy Pelosi Michael Jackson’s nose.

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  35. AccountabilityPlease says:

    Aside from Graham and Cruz, I found the GOP Senators did not make use of the time to ask important questions or refute the stupid Democrat talking points. Some seemed woefully unprepared and/or disinterested. For example, Sen. Whitehouse implied that Durham can’t know more than Horowitz. Did any GOP Senator clarify that Horowitz inquiry was limited to questioning active DOJ and FBI employees only? Did any of them point out that Durham can use a grand jury to compel testimony? Did they observe that Durham can talk to people in other intelligence agencies like the CIA, MI6 and Italian Intel? Nope.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      You made the mistake of assuming Republican Senate Leadership and core membership actually want to support President Trump. The President’s supporters among the senate are not part of the main stream and sadly the few defenders are not even willing to bury their political differences to cooperate in the President’s defense. Too bad the Republican Senate could not hire some of the Republican House members as staff.

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  36. Reserved55 says:

    This is a halftime report from earlier. She talks about the communist Alphabets coverage.

    A good listen. 7 min.

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  37. thedoc00 says:

    Can’t help but be reminded of a line from an old cartoon from 1960-70’s, Davey and Goliath, that seems to fit all the actions by Lindsey Graham. Goliath was Davey’s pet talking dog and whenever crunch time in the day’s story arrived, Goliath would always say in a slow voice, “Whatcha going to do now Davey?”

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  38. If “mistakes” happen only in one direction they are not mistakes …

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    • California Joe says:

      Horowitz is using deliberate IGNORANCE to whitewash the FBI. Since when is misconduct anything but intentional? Since when does a law enforcement official attempt to frame an innocent man of a crime he didn’t commit much less a crime that never happened require proof of bias???

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      • WRB says:

        The report recommends

        9. The FBI should review the performance of all employees who had responsibility for the preparation, Woods review, or approval of the FISA applications, as well as the managers, supervisors, and senior officials in the chain of command of the Carter Page investigation, for any action deemed appropriate.

        Horowitz is tossing the hot potato back to the FBI (and their boss, the AG). Here is where we find out if FBI Director Wray is fired or not.

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  39. Bob, Esq. says:

    I’ve been trying to tell you guys for months that Footnote 8 is “documentary evidence” of political bias and treasonable conspiracy.

    By all means, show me the the law and facts capable of dismissing the following questions as nonsensical.

    Why is Christopher Steele masked as Source #1?
    Why is Glenn Simpson masked as an identified U.S. Person?
    Why is Perkins Coie masked as a U.S.-based law firm?
    Why is Donald Trump masked as Candidate #1?

    I’ll wait.

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  40. Zombie says:

    Inside Baseball – nothing to do directly with FISA abuse but it’s clear from this hearing that Lindsey doesn’t want to go anywhere near the vacinity of Ukraine. I think we know why. Also please don’t mention Crowdstrike to him.

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  41. Rynn69 says:

    Who gives a you-know-what about anything this filthy, corrupted man says? He is part of the criminal element that has taken over our beautiful country.

    These so-called “Swamp Dwellers”, who are in reality nothing more than soulless criminals, have allowed themselves to be sold at a price to domestic and foreign – probably most are foreign – actors bent on global domination and power. The New World Order is nothing more than a modern day Third Reich.

    Hope they can sleep at night knowing what they have done and that they themselves will not be immune to the repercussions.

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  42. WhiteBoard says:

    The tide is turning. Don’t taste time replying to this by saying it isn’t, instead think about what I say below as evidence.

    Dem senator mazie hirono ( Ms men just shut up) basically said to Horowitz that she is shocked FBI lawyers are out of theIGs ability to interview, and that she wants more review into why lawyers are exempt

    This is explosive. She sees something off here, her of all people.

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    • Justah says:

      She and several others want Horowitz to “investigate” Bill Barr.
      He keeps saying – “we are NOT allowed to investigate ANY Lawyer in the DOJ/FBI.

      Isn’t it odd that not a single CongressCritter asked …… “Is James Comey, McCabe, Page and ALL the others involved in this … Lawyers? How does any DOJ IG put out a report on dozens of Lawyers when you have already said …. “I’m not allowed to investigate Lawyers in the DOJ?”

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  43. Hans says:

    Let us not forget. The FBI had reasonable cause to start the FBI investigation….ONLY if you ignore Stephen Halpren and Milud. That set up Page. Page had no problem talking to Russians he worked foe the CIA. The perfect stooge.. The FBI lied on the CIA page connection… DUH. No political bias…I don’t think I can stomach the lies…

    Watching Horowitz for several hours today and watching the interaction with Senators , the parsing of words…. at the start of the investigation there was no evidence of bias… DUH… what part of the renewal don’t you want to talk about.. if there was bias at the end did it just start then and not at the beginning… DUH… let me think about that…

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  44. Deplore Able says:

    Horowitz couldn’t find any “documentary or testimonial” evidence of bias against the President. I wonder if Horowitz has ever heard of “circumstantial evidence.” Circumstantial evidence can convict.

    So you have a bunch of FBI and DOJ folks working on FISA and they all keep making mistakes, lots of mistakes and each time the mistakes made were against the President. Not a single mistake was made in favor of the President, only against. What are the odds of that?

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    • Somewhere between slim and none.

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    • Magabear says:

      So Clinesmith saying in an email “viva resistance” or something to that effect isn’t proof of bias to Horowitz? What does he want, the emails of Page, Strzok and Clinesmith stapled to the FISA documents?! 😡

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    • California Joe says:

      Fraud, lies and serious omissions by seasoned FBI officials are not just mistakes! You don’t make any mistakes even in a routine investigation at the FBI and DOJ. These guys are not just experienced ivy league lawyers they are technicians! Every step is documented and reviewed to make sure that the warrant application is perfect before it’s presented to a federal judge for his signature. Horowitz knows that too which is why he’s part of the problem not the solution! These people tried to frame the President of the United States for a crime that never even happened yet Horowitz sits there saying….some mistakes were made?.

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      • LDave says:

        Every attorney I know would go out of the way to verify each fact presented to the court. No way 17 misstatements get filed unknowingly.

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  45. Hans says:

    On another note.. unless I missed it Horowitz only asked Glen Simpson to appear and he declined… WOW now that realy sounds like a complete investigation.. He never asked Clapper, Brennan, Comey… they could have said no..but they were never asked…hello deep state..

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  46. Magabear says:

    The day after last November’s election I relayed a story from work where a guy who didn’t vote asked me how the election went. I told him that the Republicans lost the last seat in the county commissioners race by less than 500 votes, to which he said “how did that happen?”. Because people like you didn’t vote I told him.

    Well today, the same guy comes up to me in a worried voice asking if I thought PDJT would be impeached, to which he thought meant removed from office. I explained the whole process to him (as an aside, don’t assume people around you know anything about politics, as most don’t) and he said “that’s it, can you get me a voter registration form?”.

    I imagine what the demonrats are doing is causing the same reaction among tens of thousands of people in this country. God I hope so.

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  47. CanaCon says:

    The Republicans should have found out all the people who were aware of the interview with Steele’s source, who was made aware of it subsequently, and followed that all the way to Rosenstein and Mueller’s cabal.

    They destroyed quite a few lower level Trump campaign staffers besides PapaD, Stone snd Manafort. What scum.

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  48. slopoke1 says:

    Superbowl 54; 49ers vs. Steelers (Pittsburgh native, I can dream; right?). There are 17 obvious botched calls during the game, ALL OF THEM go against Pittsburgh (although the defender grabbed JuJu’s face mask and ripped his helmet off, we could not establish that he intended to do it, there is no foul). After the game 100’s of text messages between the “hand picked” referee’s surface revealing such things as they hate the stench of Steelers fans and that the Cowboys should win the game 100 to 0. The NFL investigates and finds that although errors were made, there was no bias. Who on earth would buy this?

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  49. johnnyfandango says:

    Why isn’t the Herr Mueller’s 12 Angry Democrat operatives called back in and forced to publicly testify in front of Grahams committee? Following today’s testimony it’s clear the FISA abuse was the precursor to the special council. Mueller knew it was a hoax yet he and his Brown Shirts proceeded to frame people on bogus interference and process crimes when there wasn’t an underlined crime.

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  50. Hans says:

    So there’s a committee decision to open an investigation on Carter Page… I see no reason to come to a conclusion that all five Strozk and others were not biased… Horowitz..you need to make up a better excuse..

    Also just because a whistle blower does not come forth does not signify a crime did not occur.. hello Epstein.. some people are not stupid when the Clintons are involved.

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