Oh Snap – Senator Lindsey Graham Pledges to Block Testimony of U.S. Politicians Coordinating With Ukraine…

Senator Lindsey Graham appears on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo and announces he will take all appropriate efforts to stop the truth about Ukraine from being exposed in the Senate.   This interview is a critical first step to understanding motives. CTH will expand in the next few posts that will highlight *WHY* Graham will bury information.

First, watch Senator Graham say unequivocally he will not call witnesses and will quickly move to dismiss the House impeachment effort.  Pay close attention to the part where Graham says calling congressmen to testify is dangerous, and he will not call Adam Schiff because he does not want to go down this path.


These comments by Senator Lindsey Graham are very self serving. Why?… Because Senator Graham participated in the exploitation of Ukraine for his own benefit. In essence Graham is fearful that too much inquiry into what took place with Ukraine in 2014 through 2016 will expose his own participation and effort along with former Ambassador Marie Yovanovich.

Graham is attempting to end the impeachment effort because the underlying discoveries have the potential to expose the network of congressional influence agents, John McCain and Graham himself included, during any witness testimony.

[Full length interview below]


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347 Responses to Oh Snap – Senator Lindsey Graham Pledges to Block Testimony of U.S. Politicians Coordinating With Ukraine…

  1. Kate says:

    AH Lindsey, Lindsey, Lindsey, you have now completely exposed yourself for all to see that yes, you are deep in the swamp.

    Liked by 17 people

    • Dee says:

      Too funny I called his office on Fri to say to him that he better have a trial if it gets to the Senate and if they don’t we know you are in it up to your neck. So I was a little premature.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Dutchman says:

        With the focus on Lindsey, its good to remember who green lighted Lindsey moving in, to head Judiciary.

        Mitch is ALSO up to his scrawny little neck, in all the corruption. He distributes the proceeds, thru the Rep campaign funds, and detirmines who will be the chief collectors, by committee assignments.

        If Lindsey doesn’t want a full trial in the Ssenate, I do. Only ‘honest’words Lindsey has said; what Schiff is doing is DANGEROUS! And yes, if its ALL exposed, it COULD “tear the country apart” seperating “We the People” from the elected members of Congress.


    • donna kovacevic says:

      Now do you see why they all D and R loved giving money to corrupt Ukraine the worst of them all, because they are just as corrupt as Ukraine’s politicians. It takes one to know one. I would not trust Zelinskyy to clean out the corruption, he is in on it. His buddy and neighbor at his villa in Italy Oleg Deripaska taught him the tricks of the trade. God Bless PDJT.


  2. Tl Howard says:

    Donald J. Trump
    I.G. report out tomorrow. That will be the big story!


    • Johnny Boost says:

      I saw that and it’s very encouraging.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Zippy says:

      Until it flops like EVERY other IG report before it. As SD said, it will probably be like this:

      “…Everyone collectively just happened to make identical mistakes, at the same time, in the same direction, together with all the administrative staff within all intelligence organizations… many of them were professionally trained lawyers… but no-one did anything wrong on purpose…”

      Liked by 1 person

  3. islandpalmtrees says:


    Sundance Writes:
    “Because Senator Graham participated in the exploitation of Ukraine for his own benefit”

    UPDATE: Bill Barr Indicts 8 Including Mueller Top Witness for Funneling Millions in Foreign Donations to Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton and Top Senate Democrats
    by Jim Hoft December 8, 2019

    The Liberal Media Is Covering This Up!…
    On Friday The Gateway Pundit reported on the news that Democrat operative and Robert Mueller chief witness George Nader was indicted for his involvement in illegal campaign contributions from foreign entities to the Hillary campaign in 2016

    Nader was one of Mueller’s top witnesses and he is a top Democrat donor and convicted child molester.

    But there is more to the story.

    Bill Barr on Friday indicted eight individuals for illegally funneling foreign money to Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton and several Democratic senators.
    According to News Thud:

    The list of the Dem organizations taking this illegal money is astounding – almost every Dem state organization and many super PAC’s including the big one Priorities USA.

    All of the leading names in the Democratic party took in this money including Adam Schiff and Ted Lieu, Jon Tester, Cory Booker, Hillary Clinton, etc.

    Liked by 1 person

  4. freespeechfanatic says:

    The club protecting the club. Yawn. Who didn’t see this coming?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Mike in a Truck says:

      The only problem with LG ending this quickly is that the Communist Democrats have vowed to continue impeaching…they won’t stop. They will just find something else to hold hearings on and continue farce after farce. No- they must be destroyed individually and collectively.

      Liked by 2 people

  5. Chris says:

    That’s not what he said at all – he said he’s gonna do what happens at every trial – the prosecution puts on a case and if there’s no new evidence – they’ll take a vote to acquit – the exact same as happens in every civil and criminal trial if the Plaintiff or prosecution fails to make their case. The defense NEVER puts on a case if a motion for nonsuit is granted at the close of the plaintiff/prosecution case. He did warn Schiff (re Schiff’s phone records) about calling members in for oversight “do you want me to call you into my committee” – not a Grahamnesty fan at all – he just did not say what you said he said.


    • zekness says:

      there may be some confirmation bias going on…maybe

      but I think that SD is insinuating (with some proof yet to be revealed to elevate it) that graham has a motive for not doing the right thing here..

      that’s my read.

      I also have no reason to discount him at his determination to end this quickly ..but the opportunity to really go bezerk on these corrupt dems is right there in his hands. And the advice to the president to “call it a victory” isn’t smart either.

      nope, from my view, the senate can not only destroy this phoney gambit played by the corrupt dems..but take it as the righteous opportunity to obliterate them in proper fashion.

      and that means, demanding by rules, that the whistleblower and shiff appear before the senate.

      this calls the bludd…graham has got to know this by now?

      and that means he motives are questionable.

      confirmation bias..? perhaps…

      but sometime when it craps like a goose…you know the rest.

      Liked by 1 person

    • TPW says:

      Graham does not want to get into calling witnesses……I mentioned this several days ago in a post here. Not because I am smart but it was obviously his only way to cover for he and his fellow congressman. Pelosi and Schiff win the info war because the case against PT is presented but we will not see all the exculpatory evidence nor the evidence of all the criminal activity and who was involved. Pelosi couldn’t get the case over to the Senate fast enough . It is now their problem to deal with. This is why Comey Brennan and company act as though nothing will happen to them……..lets see how truthful IG is and Barr. Jennifer Griffin this AM on Wallace said PT will be disappointed in the report that says no spying and FBI was justified. That it was a calamity of errors with the FISA applications…Sloppy…..Can you imagine we are to believe the most powerful court is sloppy. Let the cover up .lets see how much Sh!t the people are going to take.Will be interesting to see if PT accepts Graham arrangement…..if he will leverage it against the deep state…..even with leverage this will not be good for our country in the least….that is if we believe this is what will happen. I will continue to believe PT knew this might happen and has planned for it.


    • Dutchman says:

      While it is true that, in a criminal trial, the defence CAN simply say the Prosecution hasn’t met its burden of proof, and ask the Judge to dismiss, its RARE, and considered a risky move.

      But, this Senate trial is NOT a criminal trial, has about aa much of a,relationship to a criminal trial, as a warm puppy has to a hot dog.

      This gives Uniparty maximum benefit of an Impeachment with minimal downside. They get to ‘tar’PDJT with impeachment, while avoiding giving him any opportunity to present his defence to the,American people, in a forum where it will be heard.

      The only downside is Dems in House will have to go on record, voting FOR impeachment.

      But,Decepticon R’s can look good to constituencies, by argueing well during trial, and by voting to dismiss.

      Meanwhile, Dems get to make case, one more time, with no rebuttal by PDJT.

      THIS SUCKS, just as one would expect from Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell and the Decepticons.

      The “Mueller is an honorable man” choir. Sounds like a swing era band, with accompanyment.

      Having breeched the Dam, they are now trying to hold back the waters.
      It won’t work, Lindsey.


      • Chris says:

        That’s not what I’m referring to – that’s the defense resting and letting jury decide without putting on a case of the judge doesn’t dismiss (on a nonsuit motion) it AFTER the prosecution rests and BEFORE defense presents its case.

        Graham’s comments refer to the senate attempting a nonsuit vote if the Dems can’t put up a case – ie – taking a vote to dismiss now, or not. If the nonsuit isn’t approved, PDJT can put on a defense before the senate votes to convict or exonerate. This is what he appears to
        Be talking about.


        • Dutchman says:

          And what he is DESPERATE to avoid. So, THATS McConnells play (Graham is McConnell proxie).
          Instruct R’s on the panel, to make points with the base, during questioning, to insure THEIR OWN reelection, and then vote yes on a nonsuit motion, so Public hears all the Orange man bad, from House Dems, but no defence arguments from Trumps team, that would expose Congressional corruption.

          A considerable distance from where they started, with the “Insurance plan” to Watergate him out of office, while avouding an actual vote.

          Not sure PDJT is going to accept that outcome. He and Rudy can keep hammering away, with OAN, on Ukrainian corruption with Congress.


  6. Johnny Boost says:

    Trump doesn’t need a Senate trial to expose corruption in the Ukraine. He doesn’t need a Senate trial to prosecute corruption in the Ukraine either. And Trump can always hold national addresses whenever he likes to tell the public what is going on with regards to the Ukraine.

    I still don’t see impeachment in the House as being certain. If it goes to the Senate and the Senate dismisses it out of hand quickly, I’d say take it.

    Liked by 4 people

    • Revelation says:

      “If it goes to the Senate and the Senate dismisses it out of hand quickly, I’d say take it.”

      I agree – dont give the swamp any opportunities whatsoever.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Mark Smith says:

        I disagree most strongly with a quick dismissal of a trial in the U.S. Senate. A Senate trial is the perfect public venue for our President, and with a Perry Mason advocate, the entire country will be both entertained and watching every word for the truth. He can present the complete case for Spygate, Ukrainegate, and the Soft Coup to America. He can have as many witnesses as possible called to make his case. Just imagine the declassification of documents sequentially over time as a he builds his case through an excellent interrogator such as Jay Sekulow, exposes the entire deep state, and destroys the Democrats and not a few Rhinos. At the end of each day, he can tweet on the critical news that occurred, and reinforce the important points. The entire month of January can be spent making his case, exposing evil people such as the SSCI, and ensuring his re-election. This is a golden opportunity! If a lengthy trial isn’t held, then he won’t have any chance to make his case and drain this awful sewer. Lindsey Graham has been worse than useless and should be bypassed by any means possible.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Johnny Boost says:

          Trump can build a case to the public without any of that stuff. He doesn’t need the Senate to investigate and prosecute people. There’s also the fact that the Senate makes all of the rules with regards to impeachment trials..

          Liked by 1 person

          • Mark Smith says:

            But it would be far more difficult, disjointed, and come out in bits and pieces over months and years. The Soft Coup is a very complicated event with many players. Its very complexity is numbing to most Americans, which is why we come to this site to get help from SD to understand it. A good advocate can lay this out in an organized fashion on the greatest stage we have in our country. It’s a wonderful opportunity that we won’t have again. Our President knows it.

            Liked by 1 person

        • lieutenantm says:

          yes, yes. yes !!!


        • trnathens says:

          And then what if the Senate convicts him? Then what?

          “You think you exposed us? Convicted. Press will tell the public these were all fever drama of PDJT, and even his Republican Senators were so unimpressed that they convicted him. And we can finally move past this Trump nightmare!

          What if they convict him?


    • schizoid says:

      Why let it go to the Senate? Before Graham opened his swampy traitor mouth there was a good chance it would be killed in the House. Now, not so much.

      Liked by 1 person

    • A2 says:

      I agree. Take it up separately. Showcase it. It didn’t happen on this President’s watch, but the fallout, that now has exposed previous corruption. Make it all about them.

      Liked by 1 person

      • A2 says:

        Exhibit A 🤣🤣👇

        Kenneth P. Vogel

        Verified account

        Follow Follow @kenvogel
        BIDEN blames his staff for not flagging conflict concerns about his son’s BURISMA post.

        “Nobody warned me about a potential conflict of interest,” @JoeBiden told @RachelNPR. “They should have told me.”

        *at least 1 aide reportedly raised the issue w/ him

        Liked by 2 people

        • Cam Heck says:

          “Cmon, man!” So your excuse, Joe, now that there’s no getting round it anymore, is to TELL us you’re too dumb to see the conflict for yourself, so it’s your staff’s fault?? Does your staff also tell you to lick your wife’s fingers in public, Joe? Or did they get your Viagra and Metamucil mixed up that morning?

          Liked by 2 people

    • lieutenantm says:

      I say, Hell No! Pretending to take it is OK…….Then you double cross these SOB’s
      and take them all out once and for all time.


    • dawg says:

      I agree Johnny Boost.

      If we think the Senate is 95% corrupt, which I do, and a senate trial would would be overseen by CJ Roberts, who is also compromised, why does anyone think that PT would be allowed to mount the defense and expose what needs to be exposed anyway?

      It seems a risky way to try to expose everything.

      Besides, I’m not even convinced that the House hasn’t the votes to impeach.

      It just seems many people are being duped into helping the Dems take us all down the wrong path.

      This whole thing was a preemptive deflection to begin with and feeding the insanity only fuels the narrative.

      I’m not defending LG, I’m now 100% convinced he’s dirty as hell, but that doesn’t mean I dont think this thing hasn’t been allowed to go way off the rails and should be shut down.


  7. MDNA I says:

    If I could put what I said earlier a different way, maybe simpler, it might be this:

    Just watch the interview & read the analysis before going off on some emotional tangent not related at all to the content. People don’t like hearing it but I see this sorta thing alll the time & all over the place, everywhere I look where people talk about politics, it happens


  8. Les Standard says:

    Graham == McCain
    …and thats not good

    Liked by 4 people

  9. See this is exactly how these politicians on both sides skate by. Too many hands in the cookie jars, hands that are from individuals in high places. This is extreme corruption. They should all be exposed and even Graham should be called out on it.


  10. Frank says:

    I hope im wrong but things like this are why I don’t believe it’s possible to turn back the corruption. It’s too deep everywhere. Even if you pick off a few people it won’t change anything. America seems to be teetering on an edge. At the rapid pace things have gone left It seems many are rushing to implement more totalitarian policies (2020 candidates) before the public grows too awake.

    Liked by 1 person

    • TPW says:

      One thing is for sure ….if we do nothing it will continue and we will be toast as a Free country, Our freedoms and assets will rapidly be confiscated. I am starting to envy those who were smart enough to prepare to be self sufficient.

      Liked by 1 person

  11. Kleen says:

    Lindsey should step down from Ukraine investigation like Sessions did from the Russia hoax.
    Conflict of interest.

    Liked by 5 people

  12. Patricia Dolan says:

    Lindsey Graham is part of the problem.

    Liked by 1 person

  13. Publius Syrus says:

    I’m still waiting for Limpsey to keep his promise to look into who setup the KillKav showtrial…

    Say, isnt he gone as of Jan 1, when it rolls back to old Grassley?
    You’d almost think Limpsey has something to hide…


  14. TheLastDemocrat says:

    GWP: Barr indicts 8; funneling foreign money to democrat campaigns and groups.

    So, this comes out. DOJ has an announcement about this.

    This has to be a modest shot heard round the capital. Not a 308. Maybe a 22lr. But a shot that has the potential to kill, nonetheless.

    I wonder if this is the first step in alerting all of congress that there is a mountain of evidence showing how everyone has been involved in foreign money funny business.

    Also, as I have suggested before: the best way to bring down the deep state will be to go from lower level people and crimes, and move up, and to be gradual.

    If everything were to be spilled at once, the populace could not digest it. We would think some of it was fake, or a bunch was happening because Trump was getting desperate. Best to go slow and gradual.

    This makes it more palatable and believable. A Dem can believe that some handful of people were rogue and were funneling money. So, they will not balk at these indictments. Hey, a few bad actors here and there.

    Those facts, and convictions, stand as the platform for showing that people at higher-up levels have been involved. So, in the public’s mind, everything just seems to be like a regular investigation leading to more and more stuff. And, by going slow, another idea gets to be normal: everyone will be wondering “how high up does this go?”

    People will eventually begin wondering if it goes cabinet level or presidential. I hope this is what we are beginning to see. I think the filing against Clinesmith for altered 302s was the first step in this process.



    • Jim in TN says:

      It is a bb. They are piling on Nader, who is already in jail awaiting trial on the child porn stuff. Looks like the people helping him with the illegal funds tried to obstruct the investigation.

      Gateway Pundit is republishing beneficiaries of the funds. The beneficiaries are not listed in the DOJ press release.

      When illegal funds are whitewashed through a legal funding org, it will be hard to prove which beneficiary received the illegal funds.


  15. Gramercy will then use the typical dim tactic. After all the accusations when it comes down to producing evidence the Dims just make the “story” disappear. The Dims drop the accusations before going to discovery. Nice going Gramercy. after you close down the “impeachment trial” the Executive Branch can release all the evidence against all the traitors anyway.


  16. bessie2003 says:

    If this farce makes it to the Senate I have a true ‘concern’ that President Trump will be removed from office. The player have gone too far, are all-in on and can not afford President Trump to remain in office much less win a re-election campaign. Ms. Lindsey really should recuse himself from being head of the committee, and if Giuliani or anyone has any proof of conflict of interest where Graham and Ukraine are concerned better get it out into the open now, before the House votes on this thing.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Mark Smith says:

      If Trump is removed from office, we will have Civil War II. Red staters with 17.6 million AR-15’s won’t stand for it. 20 traitorous Republican Senators will have a lot to explain to many angry people. Removal would be highly unlikely and worth the risk to make the public case for punishing the many, who have practiced sedition in the last three years. Think of the number of times the truth has been blocked, especially during the Mueller investigation.


  17. mtg50 says:

    The corruption in the Ukraine, while detestable, pales in importance to the attempted coup which is obviously ongoing through impeachment. This seems to be a distraction. Let’s get this impeachment nonsense dismissed in the Senate as quickly as possible (preferably by not taking it up). The corruption and the indictments can be dealt with throughout 2020 and President Trump’s second term.


  18. Zippy says:

    This news has not served to reinforce my firm belief that there will be no significant SpyGate perp walks. /sarc


  19. kleen says:

    Time is running out to find someone to primary Lindsey and also Mitch.
    I wish we could find 2 conservatives to run against them and I wish our side would go full blown supportive. Donate, volunteer and promote. Put all we got into it! 60+ million of us should get involved.

    Expose RINOs as Democrat plants.

    I wish…

    Liked by 2 people

  20. Landslide says:

    Mr. President, looks like it’s time for a round of golf with ol’ Lindsey…..

    Liked by 3 people

  21. William says:

    Lindsey appears to be dirty.


  22. joeknuckles says:

    I believe this is why Miss Lindsey was made the chairwoman of her committee.

    Liked by 2 people

  23. chickenhawk says:

    He’s got the same face. The police department I used to work with always said you could tell the liars from the truthtellers. It was in their eyes, it was in their facial expression. This comes from years of working with criminals and the entire police community, and observing how people present themselves, I believe. You always rely on evidence, but your gut reaction, which is partially derived from the facial presentation, is usually always correct.

    Liked by 2 people

  24. X XYZ says:

    “We’ve gotta protect our phony baloney jobs, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately, immediately!”

    Isn’t it remarkable how Senator Grahamnesty wasn’t remotely conservative in his past record until he recently changed his tune? Time to return to ‘business as usual’ in the Senate.

    Liked by 3 people

  25. Ray Runge says:

    The “light of day” is about to descend upon Ms. Lindsey and an array of characters, Senators, Representatives and Swamp Monkeys, for enriching themselves at the Honey Pot Laundromat, AKA Ukraine.

    As AG Bill Barr may be starting to prosecute the conduits of Ukraine riches, the question becomes, Will Barr have the appetite to prosecute the elected political and bureaucratic for self enrichment activities via Ukraine. IIRC, Yovanovitch, Ambasadorial level has a $7 million net worth from her entrepreneurial efforts while in the foreign service.

    Once the foreign aide skim off the top scams are exposed in Ukraine, no telling how much further the corrupt routines through other countries can exposed. POTUS Trump and Bill Barr have the potential for renewal to our government of historic proportions.

    Liked by 1 person

  26. graficgod says:

    always knew mrs. grahamnesty was a globalist deep stater. he needs the rope along with the others involved.


  27. Jersey814 says:

    All the scumbags will live to fight another day.


  28. JohnCasper says:

    Graham repeated the lie of “the Russians stole the emails”. There never has been any evidence of this. The DNC saying so is not evidence.

    Liked by 3 people

  29. Kleen says:

    I wish Sundance would post (above in the article) pics of Lindsey with the crooks in the Ukraine including McCain. Pictures are out there. But not all over as they should be.
    They should be on a side screen, when they have Lindsey on TV.


  30. Abster says:

    Well, I would say it is high time for Lindsay’s crimes to be exposed to all. He is such a slime ball.

    Liked by 1 person

  31. TEWS_Pilot says:

    Aren’t there three Senate Committees about to hold hearings, including the one headed by Grassley? The other two could certainly call anybody they want and tell Lindsey Graham to pound sand..


  32. 2Alpha says:

    Found this – Don’t know the context yet…


    • Betty says:

      Geez, don’t forget goodie two shoes Amy Klobuchar standing right in the middle.

      And who ever it who is trying to act like a hero and blocking the democrat candidates from a vote is doing the same think Lindsey Graham is doing, letting talk smack and then giving them a free pass.

      Believe me if the what ever the outcome the who ever vote to impeach or convict President Trump will be the most hated politicians the world has ever seen. So get them on record just in case Mitch McConnell has a knife hidden up his sleeve.


    • Heika says:

      The context is these are Nazis –


      • Heika says:

        Azov was photographed with McStain and Graham on more than one occasion. This looks like Ukraine troops… but not hard to find the evidence


  33. DebbieSemms says:

    Lindsay exposed himself long ago when he wanted a law to prevent Trump from firing Mueller.

    Liked by 4 people

  34. Bogeyfree says:

    Somebody should ask Rudy if during his investigation and conversations with Ukrainians, did anyone mention anything about Lindsey?

    Maybe it is time he does another live interview?

    Liked by 2 people

  35. Heika says:

    100 percent! This is exactly it

    “Graham is attempting to end the impeachment effort because the underlying discoveries have the potential to expose the network of congressional influence agents, John McCain and Graham himself included…”

    Liked by 2 people

  36. hokkoda says:

    The drug deal I can see playing out is the Senate moves to dismiss on 51 votes without a trial, and Trump tells Rudy to back down. That’s why Rudy isn’t releasing anything other than what he has already learned about the Biden’s.

    The nation as a whole has changed the channel in impeachment. It’s over. Democrats might still vote articles out of the House, but they’ve created a situation where impeachment is meaningless because they’re impeaching for non-crimes as an election ploy. Even people who agree with Democrats know it at this point. They just don’t care.

    The IG report is so large that it’s going to take days/weeks to digest. It’s like the Mueller report. Everyone will have a gut reaction, and then it sinks in. For Mueller, after I read it a few times, I realized he was running a CNN/MSNBC investigation where Weissman et al investigated every goofy conspiracy theory posited on the CNN/MSNBC prime time shows…and came up empty. Then they tried “obstruction” which mainly was an attempt at revenge at Trump for running a successful legal and media campaign against them. You can tell in Vol 2, just their tone, that they were furious that Trump mocked and verbally attacked their fraudulent investigation.

    For the IG, I think we get half a loaf, at first, but wind up with a lot more in the end. The IG’s job is to protect the institution. So we’ll get soft words that soothe the guilty consciences. But, in the long run, the IG will uncover more very serious actions which require stiff penalties. Like an earthquake with no visible damage…everyone breathes a sigh of relief only to later learn that the foundation has been irreparably damaged.

    Should be a fun week, as the tide ebbs on the fake impeachment, and the tide rises a bit on the coup plotters.

    Liked by 1 person

    • SHV says:

      Don’t think a motion to dismiss could be introduced to the Senate for a vote pre-trial without changing Senate Impeachment rules.

      ” I. Whensoever the Senate shall receive notice from the
      House of Representatives that managers are appointed on their
      part to conduct an impeachment against any person and are
      directed to carry articles of impeachment to the Senate, the
      Secretary of the Senate shall immediately inform the House of
      Representatives that the Senate is ready to receive the
      managers for the purpose of exhibiting such articles of
      impeachment, agreeably to such notice.”

      I read that to say that once the HR vote out Articles and appoints managers, the process is automatic to start the trial process.


      • hokkoda says:

        For Clinton, after the House managers presented, Sen Byrd moves to dismiss. If I understand the sequence correctly, they merely need to be presented with the articles. After that, it’s the Senate’s ballgame. When I say they should move to dismiss, this is the sequence I would like. Receive them, move to dismiss, end of impeachment…basically, the Senate says “thanks” and wipes its @@@ with it.

        The House “impeachment” is so utterly bad, that for the sake of the Republic, the Senate should put this and all future House leaderships on notice: do it RIGHT or don’t bother trying.

        I understand why people might like a Senate trial, I really do, but it’s unlikely to be a one sided affair where Trump gets to bring in a parade of witnesses in some sort of Perry Mason “big reveal” of DC corruption.

        Give the House fake impeachment the attention it deserves. None.


      • linda4298 says:

        The Senate can change rules , the house has thrown out the rules.


        • X XYZ says:

          “Badges? We don’t need stinking badges!”

          Rules? We make the laws. We are your lawmakers. You voted for us. Now you get what you deserve.

          WE CONTROL YOU.


    • X XYZ says:

      Hokkoda, you said: “For Mueller, after I read it a few times, I realized he was running a CNN/MSNBC investigation…”

      You actually read it? The whole thing?!? Have you nothing better to do with your time? 😉

      This reminds me of Justice Scalia’s comments he made in oral arguments on the then pending Obamacare legislation. Pelosi said the most arrogant statement EVER said by a politician, that “we have to pass it, to find out what is in it.”

      Scalia said, (I’m paraphrasing as I can’t find his original quote) – Do you think I’m going to read all (however many thousand pages) of this bill before making a decision on this case?

      it is not good for a judge to talk that way. It shows bias. They are ALL biased to some degree. But SCOTUS judges are in office for life. Unless they are removed by some greater force.

      Forget Epstein. Scalia was murdered. He just wouldn’t shut up. They had to find some way to shut him up. Permanently. And they did.

      Nancy is still here. She will die with her boots on. So will Hillary. So will Ginsburg. That’s the way the filthy game is played in the swamp. It is the dirtiest profession of all. Yet they always keep their hands clean of the deed, subcontracting it to minions. So does organized crime.

      It has been said that prostitution is ‘the oldest profession’. No, it is actually politics. Power over everyone – and we give them permission to do it all to us – with our votes. Hitler was elected. Once the masses have given any leader permission…anything is possible.


      • hokkoda says:

        Yes, I did, nothing wrong with that. It wasn’t terribly long. I did one speed-read, one slow read, and when dumb-a$$ liberals try to claim this or that, I’ll quote from it. It’s fun to throw Mueller back in their faces. Once you strip away Weissman’s anger that Trump dared to talk back to them, mock them, call them the frauds that they are, you get a report long on innuendo and devoid of evidence.

        Much like Schiff. That’s why I said back in Sept. that the articles of impeachment for Ukraine are already written and Pelosi already knew they would push to a vote. Schiff just had to break out his crayons and scribble out “Russia” and replace it with “Ukraine”. Just like Mueller was designed as a cover up of Coup Part One, Coup Part Two is a coverup if the billions US politicians looted from Ukraine in 2014-16.

        It’s good to read both, though Schiff’s was so horrible, and utterly devoid of direct evidence, I fell asleep. At least the Mueller report was ultimately forced to admit they had nothing. Schiff crapped in a brown paper bag, wrote “report” on it, and claimed it is gold…


        • X XYZ says:

          Yeah, it’s fool’s gold from California. Nothing but a bag of Schiff. Phew. Don’t open the bag…

          “The more you stir a turd, the more it stinks.” (That phrase is from the mid 16th century)


  37. zekness says:

    question for Graham: while you acknowledge that schiff is damaging the country…isn’t the more precise way to describe “damaging” as simple congressional misconduct AND clearly criminal abuse. How then can you argue this matter is only a “separations of powers issue?”

    aren’t you basically saying that corruption and misconduct is permitted because you consider protecting a separation doctrine?

    how does that square when the very people responsible are in fact breaking the law as it is stated (surveiilance, arbitrary), making false claims when in the house in session, and designing a clear type of abuse of those powers by alleging crimes without any facts to support them.

    so what are the priorities here Graham.?

    How can you defend separations of powers arguments when you cannot protect them from being abused?

    Graham: come on man….doncha know..this is the dc two step…I do this in my sleep.

    sad reality.

    now having said that..he mentions “taking care of this other stuff later”…

    I doubt that will happen and even if so, the discipline might be a censur or something.

    perhaps its time for congress to establish regulations for conduct within the intelligence committees.

    why is this not so hard to undestand…schiff just chalked the outline for corruption and graham answers with…its a one off, it’s never happen again.

    this guy is stupid…and doesn’t understand what is really at stake.

    he is playing defense at a moment when the opportunity exist to play hard ball.

    expect him to get punished for it.

    Liked by 2 people

    • hokkoda says:

      People keep posting this, but The Washington Post, Gateway Pundit, etc just say he was a “key” Mueller witness…without elaboration. Near as I can tell, he was involved in setting up a meeting. Not clear why I should be excited about this, since he appears to only be the latest in a loooong string of corrupt Clinton donors who somehow after the election managed to donate a pile of money to the Trump inauguration event.


  38. joebkonobi says:

    Lindsey Graham has a major conflict of interest in anything Ukraine and needs to recuse himself or be recused from the Chairmanship of the Senate Judiciary Committee for any matters regarding Ukraine. I an beginning to think the timing of the switcheroo between Grassley and Graham as Chairman is intertwined with UkraineGate. Graham getting nervous. Of course McConnell is involved and will not do a damned thing about it. This cannot stand.

    Go Rudy Go. Barr needs to act now. Corruption will not stop until it is exposed to full sunlight. Dems were stupid to bring up Ukraine. This whole fast track Ukraine impeachment sh*tshow must have started as a result of dems/uniparty getting a heads up on Ukraine investigation. No wonder they are in a hurry.

    How many Repub Senators are involved. Must be exposed as it could very well have influence on how they would/will vote for removal. Even if not many involved, they will protect each other. I will be writing Lindsey Graham and NastyGram tonight. Swampy! #Biggest scandal in US history.

    Liked by 2 people

    • The Dark Lord says:

      writing Lindsey Graham and NastyGram tonight. ???? based on what everyone seems to think of those 2 they really aren’t listening to us …


    • Cam Heck says:

      Lindsay is in it up to his eyeballs- see my post downstream. Video of him and McCain knee deep in Ukraine with Youwannabitch.


  39. trapper says:

    Revisit PDJT’s tweets on this stuff. Revisit Rudy’s comments. The message is often between the lines, what is NOT said, and sometimes the message is not even contained in the subject of the tweet, or is directed at someone else. PDJT made clear he has a gigantic can of political Ukraine worms that he can open and spread around, and EVERYONE is dirty on Ukraine. Lindsey got the message loud and clear. Say what you want about him but he ain’t dumb. He’s gonna kill impeachment. DOA. Basically, he’ll hear what the House sends over and then make a motion to dismiss in the Senate, and he thinks he’ll get it.

    Similarly, PDJT’s tweet today to Kim is VERY interesting. I read it as a message not to Kim but to the Chicoms that says “I’ve got Kim’s back. Don’t shoot your hostage.” Very interesting high stakes nods and eyebrow raises going on, advanced master class diplomacy level 9, if anyone is paying attention.

    ” Kim Jong Un is too smart and has far too much to lose, everything actually, if he acts in a hostile way. He signed a strong Denuclearization Agreement with me in Singapore. He does not want to void his special relationship with the President of the United States or interfere….

    ….with the U.S. Presidential Election in November. North Korea, under the leadership of Kim Jong Un, has tremendous economic potential, but it must denuclearize as promised. NATO, China, Russia, Japan, and the entire world is unified on this issue!”


  40. Hanuman says:

    So Miz Lindsay is Schiff-N-Nadler in one. Got it.
    Cocaine Mitch gave him Judiciary for interference play.


  41. jello333 says:

    We’re all hoping that the upcoming report, and especially Durham later, will expose everything. If that indeed is about to happen, surely Lindsey knows it. So his actions (or lack of action) may not be because he’s trying to cover for anyone… again, assuming he knows it’s gonna come out anyway. Rather, maybe it’s that when it does come out, HE doesn’t want anyone (his former/current “colleagues”) being able to point their fingers at him. He can say, “Don’t look at me, it wasn’t my fault.”


    • X XYZ says:

      Lindsay is following an old, familiar political script:
      Where have we seen that sentiment before?
      Can we ‘get back to business as usual’ in our Senate now and forget about this?


  42. The Dark Lord says:

    If the impeachment trial ends fast with a not guilty … WHO CARES if the corruption is exposed during the trial ????
    anyone wanting to get perfection (not guilty trial and swamp exposure all in one) is high on something …


  43. loisplane says:

    This is happening so fast because Lindsay is stepping down in January.


  44. NJ Transplant says:

    Remember New Years Eve of 2016. McCain and Graham were trying to get Ukraine to start a war with Russia (for Obama). They told the Ukrainians that NATO would protect them. Ukraine is not even a member of NATO. I guess that is why they were hesitant about starting a war with Russia to screw up the new President’s first term.

    They all belong in jail.

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  45. 13wasylyna says:

    He would have to BLOCK himself


  46. john says:

    Nancy had an impeachment problem from day 1 of this Congress. She tried for 6 months to dissuade the Al Green, MadMaxine, Freshmen traitors, Schiffhead and Nadless types from going down a path she knew was a loser.

    Fearful that the criminality, sedition and treason would be exposed and that she would have insurrection within her own party (pols, swamp critters and leftist thugs err Dem voters), she went to the Senate GOPe and struck a deal. The GOPe were, after all, complicit in the destruction of 243 years of American Exceptionalism. She was allowed to let impeachment run its course and when it was sent to the Senate, the GOPe would kill it without any trial, thereby obstructing any clear view of their obvious transgressions and further eroding PDJTs, and through him, our 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights.

    Everybody wins. Nancy can say to her caucus and their useful idiots (dem voters) that she tried her best, and the GOPe has killed any further investigation into the globalist cabal. Truth and Justice are the only casualties and they are intent on destroying that anyway.

    They havent read Donald Trumps books though. And they severely underestimate he, Rudy Guiliani and President Trumps team. Durham and Barr are gonna nail em. People are going to hang. This is to big to sweep under the rug. And the public knows too much.

    The backlash of trying to completely whitewash this is too terrible to contemplate. The blood of tens of thousands will be on their hands if they let this fade away without consequences.

    Liked by 2 people

    • joebkonobi says:

      Good post john but I’m nor sure about everyone winning. PT still gets impeached even though he doesn’t get removed. That put an asterisk by his name forever into the future. It also hobbles him in the 2020 election as dems can call him an impeached President and hang that around his neck throughout the entire 2020 campaign.

      PT has snot done anything wrong. Corrupt Congress critters and bureaucrats have. I’m not sure how to get there but I want to see PT completely vindicated and the corruptocrats exposed. Only then will I feel confident that PT can win in a landslide. Best case scenario, but unlikely, is dems ditch impeachment and Ukraine investigations allowed to continue.


      • john says:

        Didnt mean to infer PDJT or the People or Truth and Justice win. By everybody wins I meant every evildoer wins.


      • Mark Smith says:

        President Trump doesn’t care about asterisks or vindication. This is far more important than a sports team keeping score. John is right. The President is playing for the survival of the republic(and I’m not drinking anything!). He should insist upon a full trial, and use Rudy, Jay, and whoever else will help, even on the floor of the Senate.


  47. Seadoc66 says:

    Special Note: Lindsey, suggest you and the entire Senate gang this this matter through very carefully. If you guys in the Senate fail to do your jobs in providing your employers (the American people) to the whole truth/nothing but the truth you are not much different from the gang in the House, are you?

    Subject: Lack of Candor, The Unforgivable Sin!

    TO: American politicians/bureaucrats/academicians/members of the media:

    Take this comment any way you desire, but as one of the veterans who assisted in drafting a document tiled; Citizens Emergency Constitutional Ordinance (CECO) I submit many of you are very fortunate that Donald J. Trump is true leader of the American people. Had the President accepted a veterans’ group’s offer to raise a unit of various individuals skilled in the various disciplines required to assist him in cleaning the swamp and installing a lean/mean government with its principal objective being to serve/protect the American people, politicians/bureaucrats who fail to communicate in any manner short of absolute candor would find themselves in violation of their oath of office and subject to both criminal and civil penalties. You see the CECO provides among its many measures designed to clean up the swamp is an oath of office for all elected/appointed/contracted government personnel that includes severe penalties for the violation of being less than candid in one’s communications. I suggest each and every employee (Yes, that includes all elected/appointed/contracted individual members of the Federal government in that each of you work for the American people!) needs to consider the following. 1). Stop making unscripted comments, 2). Start preparing comments with the assistance of persons with the ability to insure all information is factual (In short, start your brain, before putting your mouth in gear!), and 3). Never make comments or address individual or groups of veterans (most especially combat soldiers and/or marines) in that I can validate from personal experience two facts reference the consequences for being less than candid with such persons. First, as an army officer and civilian police chief I relieved/fired nine subordinate officers during my soldier and cop careers. I did not relieve/fire any of these men for making mistakes nor for their failures. I fired all nine for the same reason. Each of them were fired for what combat soldiers and marines consider an unforgivable sin. That sin is, failure to be candid in all communications! Second, would you like to know the principal reason (as determined by testimony of the offenders [in the few cases where authorities dared investigate] ) officers in military units engaged in combat during the Vietnam War were are assaulted/killed (soldiers’ term for the practice is ‘Fragging’) by their subordinates? The reason the offenders gave was, the officer lied to them! Something to think about, Huh?

    Soldier/Cop/Grunt, Retired

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  48. thedoc00 says:

    There is going to be an evil compromise made, that none of us are going to like “for the good of the republic” if President Trump is continue in office.

    The President “caught them all” vs Impeachment Verdict that will impact the entire Executive because the VP nor any of the President’s appointees can safely be allowed to survive the removal of President Trump.


  49. sticknca says:

    Graham vocalizes the real problems with the Trump Presidency. You can’t be a crooked politician having your crookedness being exposed by another congressperson who is also crooked.


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