The Senate and Impeachment Dynamic…

As the House impeachment of President Donald Trump becomes more of a forgone political conclusion it’s worth considering what terms and conditions Senate Leader Mitch McConnell will extract in order to preserve a Trump Presidency.

Most political pundits will not correctly outline the status of the possibilities, because most political pundits are willfully blind to the structure of the McConnell Senate.

First, McConnell doesn’t care about holding a majority position in the Senate.  Whether he is a majority leader or a minority leader doesn’t matter to McConnell. In fact McConnell’s political skill-set does better in the minority than the majority.

The preferred political position for Mitch McConnell is where he has between 45 and 49 republican Senators, and the Democrats hold the Majority with around 55.  Of course with Reid’s retirement, this would now be with Majority leader Chuck Schumer holding office.

Why does McConnell prefer the minority position?

The answer is where you have had to actually follow Mitch McConnell closely to see how he works.   When the Majority has around 52 to 55 seats, they need McConnell to give them 8 to 9 votes to overcome the three-fifths (60 vote) threshold for their legislative needs.  It is in the process of trade and payment for those 8 to 9 votes where McConnell makes more money, and holds more power, than as a sitting Majority Leader.

The 60 vote threshold, and McConnell’s incredible skillset in the minority, is where he shines.  Each of the needed votes to achieve sixty is worth buckets of indulgence to the minority leader.  This is why McConnell never changed the Senate rules for legislative passage.

Except for budget passage (reconciliation); and McConnell being forced by intransigence in the era of Trump resistance to change the judicial vote threshold to 51; McConnell would never consider changing the legislative threshold to a simple majority because it would be removing his favored position.  A simple majority vote is adverse to his interests; that’s why he retained it during his reign as majority leader; as did Harry Reid before him.

The vote selling to the 60 vote threshold in the Senate is where the UniParty operates; and where the status of maximum financial benefit for the minority exists.

Currently, as majority leader, McConnell needs to purchase eight or nine votes for each legislative priority.

Mitch McConnell doesn’t like being the purchaser, he prefers being the vote seller where his skill-set as a broker really shines.  McConnell is much better at extracting terms for his vote sales, than being the purchaser for the votes of an intransigent minority wing. This is why the current Senate doesn’t pass many bills.

If Democrats were in the majority, and McConnell was the minority leader, we would see much more legislation pass because Schumer is a more well financed buyer (K-Street) and McConnell is a much better seller.  Whenever we have this minority dynamic it always leaves people confused because few really watch what McConnell is doing.

McConnell takes his favorite twenty controlled GOP senators and brokers their votes on an ‘as needed’ basis.  The eight to ten senators he selects each time get compensated in the process.  McConnell rotates the financial beneficiaries on a bill-by-bill basis.  As a consequence each of the 20 or so McConnell senators gets quite wealthy over time, and McConnell gains additional power and influence.

If any of the republican Senators attempt to disrupt this UniParty business model McConnell excommunicates them from the legislative process; the best reference for the ‘incommunicado’ approach is former U.S. Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC).

Additional references for how McConnell operates this scheme as the Minority Leader can be found in the Corker-Cardin amendment which allowed the Iran nuclear deal/payments under Obama; and/or the “fast track” Trade Promotion Authority deal for TPP passage, again for President Obama’s maximum benefit.   In these examples McConnell worked with Harry Reid to flip the vote threshold from votes to approve, to votes needed to deny.

Within TPP Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was again working on the priorities of U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue.   McConnell and Donohue have been working together on UniParty trade and domestic legislative issues for around twenty years. It is well established that Senate Leader Mitch McConnell has one major career alliance that has been unbroken and unchanged for well over two decades. That alliance is with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and specifically with CoC President Tom Donohue.

CoC President Tom Donohue represents Wall Street interests and supports: all multinational trade deals, open-border immigration policies, amnesty legislative constructs, and all of the issues that have generally irked common-sense GOP voters for the same period of time. [SEE HERE and SEE HERE].

Tom Donohue is the biggest lobbyist spender in DC every year, by a mile.

To remind ourselves how Minority and Majority Senator McConnell took down the threat of the Tea Party revisit these old articles CNN Part I and CNN Part II  both showcase how McConnell works.   Then do some research on how McConnell worked with Haley Barbour in Mississippi [SEE HERE].

So the reason for outlining this Senate dynamic is simply to remind everyone that with a Senate impeachment trial coming up, it’s not the 2020 campaign to hold a majority in the senate that matters to Mitch McConnell.  If McConnell can rid himself of Tom Donohue’s nemesis, President Trump, and simultaneously return to his preferred and more lucrative position as minority leader, he would be quite happy.

The first opportunity for leverage over the White House will come in the shape of the Senate “rules of impeachment”.  The senate will have wide latitude in how they set-up the processes and procedures for the trial – and McConnell never misses an opportunity to leverage a “get” from his senate position.

So what will the White House need to give McConnell… or what will McConnell’s ask be, in order to protect the office of the president?  Here’s where you have to remember Tom Donohue and the Wall St priorities.

McConnell (subtext Donohue) would prefer the confrontation with China be eliminated and the tariffs dropped.  Is that too big an “ask”?  Would the White House sell/trade McConnell a China deal for better impeachment terms?

All of these are questions worth pondering now, because there’s no doubt they are being discussed amid those in DC sitting on the comfy Corinthian wing-backs and gleefully rubbing their hands around a well polished mahogany table….

….There are trillions at stake !

 

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485 Responses to The Senate and Impeachment Dynamic…

  1. Don McAro says:

    Well on the bright side…McConnell will be 78 In February…. The clock is running out on him.
    Anything can happen to him…

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    • Bill Durham says:

      And Trump’s response could be
      1 several maga rallies in Kentucky
      2 perhaps a Trump relocating their residency to Kentucky
      3 Trump setting up his own PAC and ending all RNC contributions

      I see SD point but Mitch doesn’t have that much leverage. Trump can sell out any arena in the US, has a billion in campaign coffers, and could end several Senate careers. Mitch’s ask or get will not be that much. He will get something but he has to go along with Trump on this and bite his tongue

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      • Payday says:

        The biggest fish PT could fry is McConnell himself. No way McConnell survives without PT. And out of office, he has no control over what the left would do to him.

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        • Stingy theory says:

          Totally agree that coke Mitch is dead politically if he lets this shiff from the House be taken seriously. And ditto for any other Rinos that do. There will be no need for a Rino minority if they take down our beloved POTUS. That would spell the end of the Rino party. They had better take that message aboard.

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      • smartyjones1 says:

        Cocaine Mitch loves continuing the judge appointment legacy of conservative judges he’s doing in a big way.

        He’s not going to undercut or jeopardize that and he wants the majority to ensure he keeps that train going.

        That’s a very serious effort now and for four more years. Mitch wants it so he wants his majority. No rules will be altered to give the Dems a leg up and he will coordinate well with the White House on all of this.

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      • topavalley says:

        Bill Durham,
        I would love # 3
        I donate to Win Red and regularly get the 88022 messages to urgently donate MORE, ASAP.
        Just try to call them, even if you are a regular donor. There is no way to get out of the recorded massage run around. No way to talk to a real person.
        I am sure President Trump would not be happy with his supporters being treated like this.

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      • steve ross strutz says:

        Then there is the issue of how much blackmail material Brennan has on the Senate.

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      • Frankie says:

        Nicely done.

        Or— Trump says NO DEAL.
        Removal vote kills Senate GOP incumbents for re-election. Trump PAC primaries them in 2020,2022, 2024..
        Meanwhile Trump runs and takes GOP nomination for 2020 anyway.
        Then wins again over the Scumocrats.
        Will the RINOs sacrifice their seats for this?

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        • safvetblog says:

          Except, if Trump is removed, he is ineligible for any federal office forever.

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          • warrprin1 says:

            Is ineligibility a given following removal? I understand there are “either” / “ors” in the script.

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            • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

              INELIGIBLE
              The “Script” is the Constitution:

              7: Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law

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          • wightmanfarm says:

            Wouldn’t that apply only if he were convicted of a federal crime? (I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night)

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            • L. E. Joiner says:

              No, ‘Disqualification’ means just that, I think; the removed official is also liable to ordinary prosecution for any crimes committed while in office. Bill Clinton lost his law license, but suffered no jail time.

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          • Frankie says:

            Wrong. Alcee Hastings, D, FL, was a federal judge who was impeached and removed for corruption. He ran for Congress and won re-election repeatedly after his release from prison.

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        • Chimpy says:

          Agreed. I don’t think PDJT makes any “deals” with McConnell.

          First off, if he does adjust his foreign policies so that Mitch goes easy on him in the Senate trial rules setup, and the Democrats find out, then they finally have REAL GROUNDS for impeachment. And not only for the President, but also for the Majority Leader in the Senate. They’ll get two for one!

          And, I would personally be in favor of that impeachment article. In that hypothetical case, it would be evidence that President Trump is corrupt. Even if he would survive the entire thing, he would be neutered for the remainder of his Presidency and would no longer be capable of MAGA. I probably wouldn’t vote for him.

          President Trump needs to remain independent and corrupt-free.

          IMO, PDJT avoids the trap of any offerings from Mitch or anyone. Bring the trial under any rules that Mitch wants. Win, even with both hands tied behind his back.

          Then, he is free to continue to do as he wishes.

          And, if President Trump is removed from office in another kangaroo court, then there is a good chance that civil war begins. I don’t think Mitch will want that, especially considering that he would likely be at great personal danger for his corrupt role.

          Just my two cents.

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      • CountryClassVulgarian says:

        I agree. I don’t see it happening. He sells out the President and he won’t get back to his preferred status either. There won’t be any elected republican left for him to make his deals over.

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        • QCM says:

          I agree with everything SD lays out in the article, however, I wonder if when planning his run at draining the swamp if PDJT didn’t know about this power structure dynamic and have a plan to deal with it? Hasn’t PDJT been watching these same politicians as SD and the rest of us for decades? Wouldn’t PDJT come to similar conclusions on how this dynamic is going to be applied now? The question becomes, how will PDJT change or releverage that power structure dynamic to counter its application? Declassification? Barr/Durham starting to make arrests? I don’t see PDJT just lying down and taking it. Do you?

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        • warrprin1 says:

          I agree, CCV. I don’t think Kentuckians will re-elect Mitch if he screws the President over on the illegitimate Impeachment, particularly if these voters recognize that the Senate may go blue and Mitch as Leader is no longer the case.

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        • tucker7518 says:

          If Mitch sells out PT, then it is the end of the Republican Party. None of them want that.

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      • MaineCoon says:

        The problem I see with this theory is:

        1. all the MAGA-rally people don’t/won’t influence/vote in the Senate trial; Mitch doesn’t care;
        2. the trial negotiations/consequences happen before Mitch’s 2020 re-election.

        Mitch has a lot of leverage because the MMM+ of MAGA people have no direct influence on Mitch prior the Senate trial.

        I appreciate the pep talk but think it is a head-in-the-sand approach.

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    • LEET says:

      Don McAro:
      I am certain someone is being groomed now to take over when McConnell is gone.

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    • wlbeattie says:

      He has that much money & influence that he can buy any kind of pharmaceutical or medical life expectancy enhancer.
      Maybe we can organise a very large gathering where we can pray for a lightning strike!

      But as my mum used to tell me … “only the good die young!” …

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  2. reggiemeezer says:

    What leverage does Trump have on Cocaine Mitch??

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  3. Publius2016 says:

    The Senate is Deep State Central…the 17th Amendment changed a very important fail safe…now States have no recall or anything but 6 year election cycles with only one chance during a Presidential election to change a sitting Senators advantage! 45 blew RINOs and Nevertrumpers away when we added seats in 2018! Yes, Ryan threw the House but 45 “kept” the Senate!

    There is NOTHING in Mueller or Schiff…NOTHING!! Consider all the illegal surveillance…all the threats blackmail lies…45 grows STRONGER!!!

    Chief Justice Roberts is now left to REVEAL DEEP STATE, but at what cost?

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    • incensed says:

      I’m not counting on Obamacare-flip-flopper Roberts. He’s already shown they’ve got the goods on him.

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    • wlbeattie says:

      Chief Justice Roberts … IMO it seems like he’s well and truly compromised!

      Was his name on #Epstein’s Lolita Express passenger manifest?
      Someone also suggested he’d illegally adopted children from Ireland.
      Let alone those #FBI “contractors” who were hunting through the #NSA’s database accessing Raw Data …

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      • zekness says:

        I believe you are mistaken on the epstein connection..
        it was a senator, last name richardson…are you probably mistaking him for that new mexico ass hat?

        not saying your wrong..its confusing at this point, one is left wondering who wasn’t in some way connected to the epSTAIN.

        btw..for the benefit of others (me), can you elaborate what compromise you refer to with chief justice from the IC? are you suggesting because of his position in FISC during those signoffs that he is in some way corrupted.?

        I have not gotten that far in my own deep diving..I find myself having to deep scub every few hours to get the ugly off every time I look deeper into this mess. I barely have any skin left.

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        • Publius2016 says:

          Justice Scalia was the clear successor to Rehnquist, but 43 choose Roberts…This “Justice” has presided over FISA and will rule if there is IMPEACHMENT TRIAL..Roberts said Census Question is Allowed but not in 2020! He will need to rule on Tax Returns too…if the Supreme Court allows Congress to fish endlessly, our REPUBLIC WILL FALL!

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          • zekness says:

            thank you for your succinct concise insight.

            I have much to learn..

            and as always I can count on the great commentarati to provide the outline.

            appreciated.

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          • zekness says:

            one more thing…on a chance and a hope, I decided early this morning to spend less time sleeping and more time digging.

            according to rules in senate hearings…if I have this right…presumably the senate can overrule even the court justice on procedural rules that justice of the court may present,..in this case, roberts, should they choose his rules deviate from the acceptable. I think this is where the special committe in the senate comes into play…a select few that are tasked to gather witness, weigh due process matter, etc.

            I am probably going to be mocked for pasting this here, but its noteworthy that Gerhart (yes, that Gerhart! ) wrote the following, which was published by the Heritage Foundation:

            “The Senate settled some other procedural questions raised in the 1980s, including the applicability of the Fifth Amendment Due Process Clause to and the requisite rules of evidence and burden of proof for impeachment trials. The Senate ruled that adopting a uniform rule on these questions was impractical because it lacked the means for enforcing any such rule against Senators. It decided that each question was a matter for the Senators to decide for themselves. (this means to me that any designs by the Court Justice to specify due process matters, are limited and held in check, made permissible or not, by the senate members, not the court justice in a exclusive unilateral vacuum)

            The Constitution fastens the responsibility of trying impeachments upon the Senate. Yet some Senators have doubted whether they have the requisite competence to try impeachments. Rule XI was adopted as a response to poor attendance and preparation by Senators in impeachment trials in the early twentieth century. Yet even in the 1980s, some Senators claimed that they had not bothered to prepare before voting, and such proceedings diverted their energies away from legislative business of greater concern to their constituents. Others argued the proceedings restored their confidence in the Senate’s institutional competence to conduct them. In any event, the Framers of the Constitution vested that task in the Senate and nowhere else.

            (the last paragraph is worth noting..and I think this is where the greatest risk to a proper trial and vote exists..that the senators might not be prepared or may be ill advised…obviously there are so many terrible holes in the house “case” with due process and fairness, not to mention the obvious partisan problems it presents for a fair and broad acceptance of even the rules, much less the fundamentals of fact based reasoning has been distorted to fulfill an criminal charge without the necessary facts to support it, and that has the potential to carry over into a lazy minded senate. I would hope it does not, but there is that risk…and it appears the court justice isn’t going to be the authority in reducing that risk either…it’s all on the members to make that determination)

            here is the link:

            https://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/17/trial-of-impeachment

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        • dustycowpoke says:

          Like the Epstein ranch Bill Richardson help with.

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  4. Right to reply says:

    Sickening! He needs voted out!

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  5. 1911pistolero says:

    Is Turtle Boy a big time Globalist? Why yes he is. I don’t trust him one bit.

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  6. gunrunner03 says:

    Exactly this. I expect McConnell to throw President Trump under the bus.

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  7. luke says:

    It’s an astute theory SD but after watching this pathetically weak attempt by Democrats to frame PT one has to come to the conclusion they’ve got nothing on him. With that in mind and knowing Trump is an ideologue when it comes to China I say no deal. Trump will tell McConnell to suck it. I’ve said it before if the Republicans in the Senate give the left Trump all of them are finished. Now if Trump’s approval was in the low 30’s different ball of wax but everybody loves a winner. I don’t see McConnell wanting to butt heads with this Trump feller lol. There was a time when that might have been different but Trump commands the support of legions of diehard followers on the right; I’ve never seen this much loyalty to a politician. Trump has all but heeled the wounds from the 2016 primary less a few asshat media whores. It would be political suicide that might even lead to violence.

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    • sundance says:

      What part is a “theory”?

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      • luke says:

        The part about McConnell getting Trump to come to heel on China. He may whisper the words but it’s DOA.

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        • Payday says:

          The turtle may think it. But no way PT would do it. IMO

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        • Newhere says:

          SD didn’t say McConnell would bring Trump to heel on China; he said that would be the ask, and no that’s not a theory, it’s as certain as McConnell ramming through judges. It’s what he does. Whether it works is a matter of leverage. Trump’s support from the base (and rising poll numbers during the House debacle) is good leverage. But McConnell’s manipulation of rules, witnesses, timing, etc., can pose a threat. McConnell’s got levers to pull too. Of course Trump didn’t go through all this just to cave on China; but he also didn’t go through all this to get convicted in the Senate on BS.

          Frankly I hope Trump’s been anticipating this moment and has something on McConnell to neutralize his asks.

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          • MaineCoon says:

            I totally agree with all you wrote with one exception: in this Senate trial, I do not think PDJT’s is leverage for that moment it time, because we have no vote and the swamp could care less what we say, at that moment. If Mitch boots PT, it’s a moot point in 11/2020 re: his re-election. Literally, we would probably have war in the streets.

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        • All Too Much says:

          China deal is DOA if Trump is out of office.

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        • David A says:

          I did not read that theory in the post. I read it as a question of what would Mitch try to use?
          ” from his senate position.

          “So what will the White House need to give McConnell… or what will McConnell’s ask be, in order to protect the office of the president? ”

          I really think that P. Trump and Rudy G scare the you know what out of these guys. They have experience, a great deal of experience in dealing with and even prosecuting corruption.

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      • Stringy theory says:

        I agree with Luke. Trump has this.

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      • Jay Currie says:

        I would think Trump’s and McConnell’s interests align on China.

        Trump needs to keep the market happy and America growing. The trade war is going well but it needs a victorious conclusion. Doing a deal – regardless of how trivial – is in Trump’s interest and it is a bone to toss at McConnell and the CoC. For Trump Phase 1 of a China deal is a no-brainer. America does not have to give much and the Chinese – currently in the middle of a set of agricultural shortages – it is a lifeline. Trump does the deal, Mitch is pleased, impeachment dies a natural death in the Senate (if it makes it that far), Trump wins and all is right in the world.

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        • Raptors2020 says:

          Breathe in, breathe out. Everyone can get rich all over again as China goes down. Let them try and bribe their way back to prosperity. China can’t grasp win/win trade deals, so instead they’re subsidizing us by paying the tariffs. Thank you, China!
          At this point, are the Chinese handing out bribes, or are our politicians extorting the Chinese?

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        • WES says:

          Jay: President Trump already has a 100% enforceable trade agreement with China! The trade agreement is called trariffs! Trump has 100% of what he wants already!

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      • Dennis Leonard says:

        Are you saying President Trump came all this way to prove your theory.I believe your wrong.I also think he is going to start the 6 month clock on NAFATA when he talks to McConnell,that is my theory.

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    • UberRight says:

      I would follow President Trump into battle. All he has to do is say the word.

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    • Laure says:

      Pres Trump does command “the support of legions of diehard followers” but more importantly, he is directly responsible for all that green flowing into the RNC…

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    • Lawrence says:

      If Bill Clinton escaped removal in the Senate, so will Trump. Trump has more power than the Clintons had then.

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  8. WSB says:

    Could this work the other way? What will President Trump keep concealed for Mitch if Mitch provides better impeachment terms?

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    • Linus in W.PA. says:

      When the Trumpet said “.. I caught them all..,” I believe he meant all of them; both sides.

      Wild times!!!

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    • Bill Durham says:

      Bingo!; Rudy got dirt on Mitch not just Joe. I am amazed that people don’t think Trump knows exactly who and what Mitch is. He does. He plays Mitch like he plays president xi. Panda mask. SD worries too much. Trump knew this was coming. He is prepared. He beat Bush Clinton CIA FBI NSA doj Mueller Comey Brennan McCabe clapper Mueller Weissman pelosi schiff nadler. He can handle Mitch and Elaina Chao.

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      • Jan says:

        No way I trust McConnell to look out for the best interests of the country or anyone but himself. I think Sundance has described the man to a T. If you think otherwise, why is the Senate constantly in “session” even when they’re not? Why are so many of Pres. Trump’s appointees not confirmed?

        And we don’t have strong Trumpers in the Senate, like the Freedom Caucus in the House. And Dimms give every indication they will continue on the impeachment road until they ‘git ‘er done. And this will set precedence for their treatment of ANY Republican president, unless McConnell breaks their balls this 1st time around, IMHAO.

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        • warrprin1 says:

          I can think of at least five Freedom Caucus members in the House, any one of whom I’d like to see as Senate Majority Leader as soon as tomorrow morning.

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    • Payday says:

      That’s what I’m thinking. The turtle’s re-election is on the line. And in this…all his COC money won’t save him if PT turns on him.

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      • bluenova1971 says:

        Do you really think the Turtle (at his age), or a lot of other older Senators, really care that much about getting reelected? I’m not so sure.

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      • warrprin1 says:

        Makes me wonder if their own focus is so much on the money itself (donations), or if their game is to keep our attention focused on on their constant begging, in order to keep our noses out of the topic of election fraud.

        There is nothing, nothing, nothing visible in the Commonwealth of Penn concerning the prevention of election fraud. I am seeing nothing, nothing, nothing underway anywhere else either.

        Has the UniParty in both Chambers finally stooped so low as to cooperate in throwing elections as if they were Mafia controlled sporting events?

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    • swimeasy says:

      I like your thinking on this a great deal WSB!!

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    • QCM says:

      ^^^^^THIS!!!

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  9. jonhabart says:

    Is there any chance McConnell plays it straight out of fear of not being re-elected if it’s discovered that he was trying to horse trade with President Trump’s ability to execute his agenda or even remain in the White House?

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    • luke says:

      You don’t want to horse trade with PT lol. McConnell should consult with Xi before making any plans.

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    • sundance says:

      “Is there any chance McConnell plays it straight”…. 😀 😀 😀 😀 LOL…. No.

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      • Bill Durham says:

        True. But even rigging the rules a Senate trial is too big a risk for Mitch and the uniparty. Way too big. the all powerful uniparty is risk averse. Mitch can not run a kangaroo Court. He wants to but he can’t. He can count. The math is not there to screw POTUS. Mitch wants nothing to do with the trial. The uniparty Will step in and Nancy will stand down
        The uniparty will not go along with Nancy’s wet dream. Too risky in the Senate. Trump beat Mueller. Mitch will get an ambassador slot for his cousin. Not much more.

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        • luke says:

          You make a great point Bull. No one like Limbaugh, Hannity, or even SD talks much about the Mueller SC and what really went down. I understand as it would be all speculation on our parts. When Meuller testified I did not see a bewildered old man; I saw one that was on the verge of pissing his pants; not out of senility but of fear. I suspect PT had some leverage on him too. It’s just a hunch but I don’t think that SC would have ever ended. The left had much broader authority with it; the abrupt ending is what hatched this hair brained scheme. Lol there’s so many holes in this impeachment farce it obviously was planned quick and executed poorly.

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      • luke says:

        The Chamber may line Mitch’s pockets with dirty cash but that will pale in comparison to the money the RNC will no longer be receiving should they lay an egg. If I have learned one thing from the Trumpster it “Negotiate from a position of strength” the brand loyalty of the RNC is his to command with admiration and respect. I’ve never seen or even believed it could be possible to this degree. Indeed Trump has very powerful platform at his ready.

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        • delighteddeplorable says:

          Exactly, Luke. The Art of the Deal lays it all out and since 1987 when the book was written, President Trump has honed his skills to a state of perfection. Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

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        • Robert Smith says:

          I think Trump is going tell Mitch to stuff it. That there’s plenty of money to be made the MAGA way.

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          • warrprin1 says:

            Based on past performance, we have every reason to expect that our President will stand tall and walk away from the invitation to dance, with his honor and our trust intact.

            There is something we are leaving out of this equation. President Trump has the strength of his very loyal and deeply talented family sharpening their knives. Lara is on the launchpad ready to go nuclear in PDJT’s public defense and as a primo campaigner. Her ads are reflecting same. Don and Eric are giving more interviews and getting more face time on camera; talking directly to voters.

            Maybe we will actually see the release of the kracken if the Dems continue on stupidly, and Mitch overthrows the next pitch.

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            • warrprin1 says:

              Let us not fail to recognize the message within the message from Melania’s breath-taking tweet at the idiot professor who stupidly prodded the ever watchful Mama Grizzly.

              These folks, whom we have come to respect and admire so much, will only take so much garbage; then look out! And they will have an entire citizens’ army standing with them – because they’ve earned our full, unbridled support.

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        • wightmanfarm says:

          Do you think the RNC/GOP care about being in the majority ?

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          • luke says:

            No but I do think they care about being part of a functioning govt and party apparatus. That gets blown to smithereens if Trump goes down. Mitch and crew do not have the cover to pull it off.

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      • jonhabart says:

        So what stops President Trump from going back on whatever concession he may have given McConnell/Donohue when Impeachment is in the rear view and he’s re-elected to a 2nd term?

        Do you think President Trump might anticipate this type of maneuver and build in a countermeasure of some kind?

        I’d like to think that there has been a lot of planning and strategies developed for a range of possible or likely situations by our VSG and his inner circle.

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        • trialbytruth says:

          I would like to be a fly on the wall when Mitch makes the offer to the POTUS…. Oh wait there is already a bug in the wall.

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          • Chimpy says:

            Exactly! Nothing happens around President Trump without many ears listening and just waiting for any small slip up to leak to their leftist friends.

            If the Majority Leader were to make a deal with the President of the United States, a quid pro quo, in order to sway the outcome of an Impeachment trial… oh, my.

            The Dems would finally have what they’ve been looking for since day #1.

            This won’t happen. Mitch won’t even start down that path, IMO.

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            • Cam Heck says:

              ” Oh hey Mitch, I was just reading about your and Elaine’s connections to China via your father in law James, in Peter Schweitzer’s book. Peter’s a heck of great journalist, isn’t he? Great guy. A real patriot. Anyway, I was starting the part where you get the $5million dollars, but you say you’re calling to discuss my trail in the Senate?”

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        • trialbytruth says:

          I would like to be a fly on the wall when Mitch makes the offer to the POTUS…. Oh wait there is already a bug in the wall.

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        • FPCHmom says:

          That’s what I was thinking too. After he is reelected with majorities in both houses, he will be liberated from the swamp pressure somewhat.

          He could burn it down at the time of his own choosing. Declassification of the dirt on both parties.

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      • lumoc1 says:

        The chances of McConnell playing it straight are exactly the same as the number of times the Senate has been in recess since President Trump was sworn in 😉

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    • livefreeordieguy says:

      No.

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    • ShainS says:

      If McConnell was playing it straight, he would have already announced that this impeachment farce would be DOA in The Senate (i.e., not even taken up).

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  10. David Leach says:

    I wonder what size crowd would show up in DC if he screws us?

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    • luke says:

      About the same size of crowd that would never be showing up to vote again. This whole impeachment charade is big nothing burger to the main streamers. So many people have no idea or give a damn what it’s about. If PT was removed it would make the sound of a nuclear bomb. Another thing I’ve mentioned before and believe it to be true the time to remove PT from office has passed. Lol if the UniParty/Deep State was so Omnipotent/powerful/crafty they would have never let him take the reins of power…..too late haha

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      • Raptors2020 says:

        Voter fraud seems the big threat. I’m old enough to remember 1968, so assassination haunts me.

        This impeachment is intended as a ceremonial, symbolic assassination of Trump. The best thing he could do is go silent until the Senate Trial is over. Be seen on a daily basis acting Presidential: meeting world leaders, carrying out ceremonial duties in the White House. Time to start handing out medals.

        Rob the Democrats of their petty victory; and confuse their low-info voters. They think the Impeachment vote means Trump is out. Some think Hillary takes over the next day.

        Rush had audio of Pelosi saying this is all about Russia, not Ukraine. Millions of Democrats are convinced forever that Russian Collusion is real.

        Wouldn’t it be sweet if Trump could bring Putin to the White House for a State Visit? After the Trial; just to signal that all their effort was wasted!

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    • I do not know David Leach but maybe the size of Pres Trumps rallies can give us a guess as to what size crowd would show up in DC if McConnell screws us.

      I keep seeing all of those thousands and thousands and thousands of happy smiling people screaming Pres Trumps name out loud in joy.

      McConnell needs to think about ticking all of us off and what will happen if we show up all screaming his name in anger.

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    • warrprin1 says:

      A caller was pitching the idea of a massing of the citizen troops in D.C. to Rush today. It’s starting to get voiced out there. ~ First email in a while landed in my inbox today from Bikers for Trump. Closing line was “Let’s ride!”, reminiscent of the heroes‘ of Flight 99, “Let’s roll!”

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      • warrprin1 says:

        The next PDJT Rally is on Tuesday evening of the coming week, dec. 10, at the Giant Center in Hershey, PA. I have signed on as a volunteer for the event. Many of the volunteers will be assigned to canvas the incoming rally attendees for voter registration status, and to provide registration info – for ELIGIBLE aspiring voters.

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  11. joeknuckles says:

    Well, that really sucks. How do we change this dynamic?

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    • 1911pistolero says:

      Show up armed to the teeth of the first day of the inquest.

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      • joeknuckles says:

        I’m not sure that would produce the desired outcome.
        How about looking for the right time to expose Mitch and end his career?

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        • 1911pistolero says:

          Let me help you out. “”When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

          No truer words and our Government thinks we are tax paying subservient chumps.

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          • joeknuckles says:

            That’s true, but I’m not going to volunteer to be the next “Tank Man”.
            There has to be a better way.

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            • Dennis Leonard says:

              So you are going to be on your knees,when they run over you.Have you heard what is happening in France right now ,800,000 are on strike,it is shut down.And this the day after President Trump made Macrove[sp] look like a idiot.

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              • warrprin1 says:

                I don’t think the labor strike underway today (yesterday), nationwide in France, was proposed by the union leaders, to the labor force, as an open-ended strike. The way I understood the reporting was that this was a one day, nationwide, total shut down, with the complaint centered on retirement age and pension reduction for early retirement.

                But we’re talking about France, and things can take an unplanned turn at a moment’s notice, but perhaps there is less danger of a prolonged strike as the French head into the season of Noël.

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              • joeknuckles says:

                Rushing the US congress with a rifle would be idiotic and ineffective. Even suggesting it in a public forum is detrimental to our cause. Be smart

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          • DoggyDaddy says:

            Unfortunately 1911, our government doesn’t fear us. Obamacare proved that with the “individual mandate” and SCOTUS’ approval of it as a legitimate “tax.” In 1776, that would have been in the indictment of King George III in the DoI, but in 2012 it hardly raised a fuss much less a call-to-arms against massive government overreach.
            And how would a call-to-arms happen? Big Tech is already stifling communications of conservatives. Do we really think they would allow free and open communications for the purpose of standing up to tyranny? We’ve already seen Twitter and Facebook concede to demands of governments around the world; there’s no reason to doubt they wouldn’t do the same here. Additionally, we’ve already seen Odierno’s, Amos’, McCraven’s white paper: Strategic Landpower with its concept of “mastering the human domain” (just how has this impacted the Army’s development of Force 2025?) which is exactly what is necessary for countering civil disturbance. And don’t think for a minute the military wouldn’t shoot us: history tells us differently (think Bonus War for one example).
            I fervently support our 2A, but it’s clear there is a sizable number in all three branches of our government who don’t. And with allies like Big Tech and the media and their drive to corrupt the voting process, just how do we exercise our collective power to give the government a reason to “fear the people”? What threshold does government need to cross for us to say enough is enough? I don’t know; no one seems to talk about it; and that scares me.

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            • TheLastDemocrat says:

              DD: the military shoots at some sort of civilian uprising:

              and then what? Chosin was tough. Where would the military go? What do you promise the rank and file to not abandon their posts when many will want to be with the other side, including their families?

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              • DoggyDaddy says:

                TLD: I’m concerned the SJW nonsense has infected our military academies (remember West Point’s black power diversity photo from a few years ago?) just like it has our state/private schools; which means, there has to be more than a few in the officer corps who would think the oxymoronic notion of “destroying the village to save it” is legitimate and that the morality of this new order supercedes other considerations. We know heroes like MacArthur, Eisenhower and Patton “just followed orders” from the civilian leadership and discarded morality to attack tens of thousands of their compatriots and their families in the Bonus War in DC. And we know the military has studied the human domain (Strategic Landpower) and I’m sure has plans to deal with domestic civil disturbance (Jade Helm) in a kind of twist of the movie Red Dawn. We’ve all been demonized as deplorables, Nazis, supremacists, etc., etc., and that makes it easier to take actions against us.

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    • Blind no Longer says:

      It would appear it is the only way.
      If by some wild notion members of the GOP turn on President Trump, I believe he would release the hounds of hell and publicly out every one of them!!
      Just think what he could reveal…talk about a civil war!!

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  12. livefreeordieguy says:

    I wonder if he would care.

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  13. Zombie says:

    Only God can save POTUS now but maybe God wants the US to face punishment for our corruption.

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    • joebkonobi says:

      Maybe God wants us to defeat evil &corruption, thus President Trump.

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      • zekness says:

        either way, GOD judges those that stand still and allow evil corruption to prevail.

        it’s out duty to GOD..then family…then country.

        that’s the way I look at it.

        trump is certainly a god send to make the stars align..he helps expose the greater evil that is thriving and expanding..

        for that I am grateful..and cautious.

        I am not going to temp fate thinking donald trump is going to do all of this one his own.

        because when he time is over…it’s still you and me.

        The ONLY permanent fixture is GOD’S mercy and his love for righteousness.

        this looks like the best time ever to get involved..

        doing even just a little bit to root out evil and displace it, would be satisfying.

        starting at capitol of our nation, is as good a place as any

        lets not waste this opportunity.

        I really do believe GOD has opened some doors here….

        but we have to walk through them..and

        kick the reprobates out!

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    • yucki says:

      No, there are righteous among us.
      Gen.18:25
      That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

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    • magacombover says:

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  14. Tom Hansen says:

    I have never trusted McConnell, and have always viewed him as Establishment and he was definitely in lock step with Paul Ryan when he was Speaker. They both betrayed Trump and never provided funding for the wall during the President’s first two years.

    Other than confirming a record number of judges, I would not trust McConnell to support Trump, but expect him to go behind Trump, and muster up the 20 self enriching Republican votes he colludes with to join the Dems in an impeachment trial conviction.

    With Trump gone, McConnell can go back to the former status quo of the Senate and make himself and his Senate colleagues more wealthy. Hopefully, Trump will be aware of this petard, and find a way to take McConnell and his treacherous swamp creatures down too, if he goes down.

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  15. SharkDiver says:

    McConnel wants more judges and will never outlive his money. I still don’t think Dems will ever let impeachment go to the Senate, but even if they do, Trump is 100% safe. All you Nervous Nellies out there just need to pull your skirts up over your heads and give it a rest.

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  16. Revenant says:

    McConnell will try to extract some concessions from the White House. McConnell has leverage that can be packaged in different ways (make sure that all GOP senators vote to acquit, for instance). Chance of McConnell looking to benefit himself in some way through all this is 100%.

    But the macro position favors Trump — the GOP cannot credibly convict Trump and throw him out of office. Pelosi and the Democrats have created such a debacle that there is no political cover there.

    So there will be a bargain, but overall, McConnell’s leverage is somewhat limited given the political atmosphere.

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  17. 1911pistolero says:

    It’s not just Turtle Boy. Mike Lee, Romney, etc. This isn’t good.

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  18. Dcburner says:

    Not many lawful options when you are dealing with a gang of amoral, psychopathic, elite political whores.

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  19. CopperTop says:

    Just pushed a version of favorited SD meme in personal FB space…”I’m just in the way”. The staggering amount of private msgs is encouraging that a few more people who never have anything to say about politics are paying attention than I thought.

    I recommend posting ‘They’re not after him. They’re after YOU. He’s just in the way’ on public notice boards. Use a ‘post-it’ and alternate hand printing. Forces it to be read. Can’t unread once it’s been seen.

    It was awfully hard for the resistance biddies at ‘church’ to figure out how to debate this innocuous dangerous thing that happened in the bible study bathroom. (Cause …yeah…the bible study ladies are STILL split 50/50 on tweeting vs the saving of the Republic *sigh).

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  20. rightmover says:

    From time to time, I see commenters here defending Mitch McConnell. Never forget, the man has no honor and no principles. The naive still believe it’s (R) against (D) in D.C., and it isn’t. Don’t for one second trust McConnell or believe he will do anything to assist our side.
    He is bought and paid for.

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  21. lurkinman says:

    *handrubbing intensifies*

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  22. Zorro says:

    What if Trump came right out and said he’s blackmailed which is the case? At least say McCON wants a quid pro quo.

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    • coolmamie says:

      Same thought came to my mind. I often wonder if Trump would wield more power as an ex-president than a sitting one. Imagine the stories he could tell.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      This.

      Trump gives McConnell enough rope.

      Trump and Guiiani draft up a signed, sealed letter that they anticipate McConnell coming forward with a subtle horse-swap offer. They get a couple allies on Senate to prepare to file impeachment of McConnell, or at least to remove him from his Senate leadership role, once McConnell is found to be offering quid pro quo.

      When it comes, they get it recorded. They make sure that the opening round or two of the offer are not connected to impeachment structure favoring Trump. They hesitate. Time goes by. McConnell get the pressure built up on him. People are expecting him to work his magic. McConnell crosses a line and intimates quid pro quo.

      Trump and Guiliani reveal: they had been suspicious, and now the suspicions are confirmed: McConnell is obstructing progress of [whatever the offer was- border, allowing a SC nomination to proceed, etc.] in order to finagle a deal based on how Senate impeachment will be designed.

      McConnell is thus exposed.

      Even better if there is some way to tie a major (D) senator, such as Schumer, as being in on the plan.

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  23. zorrorides says:

    Sundance, you’ve written another important one.

    “Was he ‘The Caped Explainer’ we have been hearing about?” the genteel gentlewoman asked.

    The solid citizen queried, “Who was that ‘Masked Understanding-er’?”

    “I don’t know,” replied the mild mannered reporter, “But he left us this silver logic.”

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  24. Magabear says:

    This is one of those few instances where I disagree with SD. Mitch is very effective when he’s the minority leader, but that doesn’t mean he likes it. Effecting the makeup of the courts is his #1 passion. A conservative court, or at least a republican court, is far more friendly to the interests of big business than a leftist court would be, and that’s where Mitch makes the business roundtable happy. He can’t do that as minority leader and he won’t even be that after November next year if he allows PDJT to be removed from office.

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    • zinpa says:

      Mitch’s #1 passion is getting off on his POWER.
      #1a – Raking in the $$$

      The “passion to effect the makeup of the courts” is what his STORY is -as sold via the pr team.

      Mitch doesn’t need to remain in the senate to get his rewards he can broker
      NOW

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      • Magabear says:

        Lets stick to the basis of the article. The worst thing that could happen to the business roundtable is for the democrats to take over not only the Senate, but numerous state governments as well due to republican voters sitting out the next election if PDJT is removed from office. If Mitch is the legislative lobbiest for big business, that isn’t how to go about pleasing your masters.

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        • GB Bari says:

          I think you misunderstand the business round table. They were doing just fine pre-Trump. Globalism was lining their pockets nicely. President Trump disrupted that arrangement and forced them to make more of their money from domestic ventures, a lot tougher task.
          They’d prefer the cheap foreign labor with little or no healthcare requirements or pension requirements. They can’t sell that compensation package here in the U.S.

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  25. fangdog says:

    This McConnell inner intrigue is too much to ask the average voter to grasp. The best bet is to encourage someone who cannot vote for Trump to not vote at all. As for McConnell it is up to Kentucky. The next best thing is to trial McConnell as a criminal of the people.

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  26. coolmamie says:

    How would not being re-elected suit McConnell? A Dem just won statewide in KY.

    I hope Trump does not give in to him.

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  27. Athena the Warrior says:

    Do remember that declassification ultimately is a weapon PDJT can use against them all. He’s given AG Barr the authority to do the right thing but he can use it at any time should he need to.

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    • WES says:

      Athena:. I may be mistaken but President Trump can not just declassify anything he wants!

      I believe he has to get others below him to sign off first and so far they are not willing.

      Declassifying everything is a myth.

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      • grumpyqs says:

        Declassification could be Trump’s “nuclear” option, as strategy against a double-cross by the Senate. Do we know that AG Barr has NOT quietly been getting the security sign-offs?

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    • luke says:

      Yep He’s been saving that Ace for a rainy day.

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  28. Just some guy says:

    Personally I don’t see how Mitch could hold a possible conviction over the president’s head to use as a bargaining chip as there just is not enough support for impeachment and the public backlash would be like nothing the country has ever seen.

    However I could see a scenario where they negotiate something to keep the conviction vote below 50%, which I’m would be a major deal in the 2020 election.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Any negotiation to water down power of impeachment is a losing proposition. And, possibly a trap to get Trump out of the way in yet another way. Anything that possibly could be defined as quid pro quo brings up another impeachment hearing. And, having learned form their mistakes, the set-up the second time will be better.

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  29. CopperTop says:

    “There are moments when you have to get off your a$$ in real time not think about saving your own skin. Like that Mike Rowe guy said, ‘Safety, THIRD.’ ” – Jack Ryan (Tom Clancy)

    Since they are ultimately coming not for Trump but you/me. Probably a good think to keep in mind.

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  30. TreeClimber says:

    I have faith that President Trump will navigate these treacherous waters and continue his winning.

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  31. Sentient says:

    In the past McConnell might not have minded being in the minority, as long as he had enough Republicans to sustain a filibuster. Whenever the Dems take back the senate, they will end the filibuster entirely.

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    • Greg1 says:

      When they get the senate, and eventually they will, dems will go every bit as scorched earth there as they did the house. If McConnell thinks otherwise it is a grave miscalculation.

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      • FPCHmom says:

        If the senate removes him, they will not be able to show their faces in public again ever for fear that an unhinged MAGA supporter would take them out. They would be finished as politicians.

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  32. Greg1 says:

    Here in Kentucky I’m curious what would happen if McConnell and the senate burn President Trump and he continued to go around the country afterward having massive rallies and telling the truth about EVERYBODY, including McConnell and the republicans. I think he could shape the vote.

    It would put all kinds of dents in the re-election plans of Republicans. I was at a fall festival that draws around 200,000 people over a four day period. Trump stuff EVERYWHERE. I did not see a single hat, shirt, or sign that said McConnell. Not one.

    Just like I didn’t see a democrat sign that said Biden, or Hoaxuponus, or Bernie or……

    You get the picture. Trump could do YUGE damage if he continued rallies after being impeached. And he has the money and motivation to do it.

    Just a thought to ponder.

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    • Garavaglia says:

      You may not be able to conceive the realistic possibility of armed conflict if the senate “burned Trump”, but I believe there are a number of groups who are waiting for just such an event, and have likely been preparing for decades. You and I don’t get to tell those people they can’t take action, they will, and I suggest everyone be prepared to pick a side. I believe this to be the case.

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    • FPCHmom says:

      He could take them out with his twitter account. He won’t need to rally. His supporters will step in and take care of business. (And they may be armed.)

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    • I have pondered a lot of thoughts about this scenario Greg1.

      You make some interesting points about how things might go if the Senate votes to remove Pres Trump.

      I do believe this, things will not go back to anything resembling “normal” in our country.

      If McConnell thinks he can use the Senate to control some kind of phony baloney take the president out of office impeachment trial and then have our country go back to where Congress, the Executive Branch and the Judicial Branch are all just humming along like the last three years never happened he really needs to think again.

      This is not Mitch McConnell and the Globalist’s little kingdom any more and we are not giving it back.

      Our country is never going to go back to what it was before Trump.

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  33. Jim in TN says:

    This is interesting and troubling at the same time.

    There is an unexplained reason for this rush to impeachment. A reason that is studiously kept from the public. Nothing said by the Democrats so far makes sense. But this may hint at the right explanation.

    And all the pundits buy Pelosi’s lies hook, line and stinker. Behind the scenes she marched Congress to this action. In public she said the opposite. And they still claim she is doing this reluctantly. How dumb do they think we are?

    Now the pundits all say it will be defeated in the Senate. Why would the Democrats, who plan meticulously, leave that part out of their plans? And what is the motivation behind this relentless push?

    And I sure do not trust our Republican ‘friends’ in the Senate. The Senate requests to the IRS to do something about the Tea Party were bipartisan. The dynamic under Bush was for RINO prima donnas to demand that every bill be shaped to the Democrats liking, and then to have the president force the House to accept it without compromise.

    And under Trump, the same people rise up to stop Trump’s agenda. Furthermore, they have played major roles in setting up Sessions and putting RINOstein in place to create a cause to appoint a special counsel. And not only do we have the usual suspects to worry about, we can’t afford to trust anyone on the Intelligence Committee.

    But the House has done such a poor job that there really can’t be a conviction without rebellion.

    So is the entire point of this mess just another power play to obtain leverage over Trump, to make him stop helping us so the rich can keep getting richer by making us poorer?

    Trump should respond that he will spend his own money and time to defeat any Republican who votes to convict. And putting him out will just give him more time to do so.

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  34. James Doz says:

    All that money and power and Mitch can’t fix his teeth, what is this the U.K., seriously McConnell Fix your teeth you look like a Bum.

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  35. burnett044 says:

    it is few in DC that resist the lure of power…most power is purchased with money….and the gathering of dirt.
    if one were to look under the collar of those in the swamp..you would most often see ..made by the
    uni-party.

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  36. MustangBlues says:

    To preside as the operator during an impeachment charade is the lifetime opportunity for the big wheels in the government to stand out in history;

    their egos are far more important than some deals for more bucks or influence. Impeachment, bogus or not, is a moment in American Government that is unique;

    if you are there and a player, here is your chance to shine; without this form of government these minor characters would be grubbing in county council boards, not in the halls of congress.

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  37. Lets wait and see who is the better deal maker,after the last three years my money is on P.Trump.
    No way he gets fifteen senators to vote to remove P.Trump.
    If he does it will be open war from us on D.C.

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  38. andy says:

    ask for what? he gets everything when trump is removed.

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  39. John says:

    I read that McConnell gave a luncheon to the Republican senators just prior to the Thanksgiving recess. 45 senators were present. On a “secret ballot,” 30 of the senators voted for impeachment of Pres. Trump. On an “open ballot,” nine senators voted for impeachment. I believe that there were three of them that were 100% an open for impeachment.

    I knew before hand that most of Congress would vote for impeachment . It has been estimated that at least 70% of those in Congress, are either on the take, or are being blackmailed. Never forget: “They Are Part of the Swamp!”

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    • Magabear says:

      Have a link to that article?

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      • David A says:

        That would have been major news.
        Sounds like a BS rumor.

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      • John says:

        I think I read it on one of the “Treehouse” posts. I don’t recall any link. But it was shortly after the “rumors” of the Senate considering using a secrete ballot for impeachment. I thought it “wishful thinking” on the part of congress, and prayed that the Patriots would never put up with such B.S.. But I would believe it because of their blind arrogance and that they have been getting away with everything so far, without cost. Most likely it is just another “Wrap-up Smear.”

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  40. 🍺Gunny66 says:

    So let me see if I understand this thread correctly.

    The Senate / Mitch will disregard the Constitution, as the House did, and make up their own rules to get what The Chamber of Commerce and Mitch wants…….I.E……

    Money……

    So unless we march on DC and basically throw them out….we will be slaves to them….

    And the insinuations are….The President will “cave” on China…..or some other “blackmail” type threat so as to not be Impeached

    I ain’t buyin it…….I trust our President to beat these idiots at their own game…..

    Remember how our President works…..”He loves this person….he likes that person……he respects this person”

    This is how he was raised……
    Has anyone ever attended a wealthy individuals party?
    Everyone goes…..enemies and friends…..and “no one insults anyone” even though they hate them or have a plan to defeat them.

    Does anyone think our President does not know what to do?

    He will tell us when to act……and do what is right for the country and the American people………Let Trump be Trump

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    • WES says:

      Gunny66: The rules of the game are what Nancy and Mitch say they are.

      We can only hope President Trump is still standing after this battle!

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    • trialbytruth says:

      Yes he will and my business will mothball while I do his bidding.

      Trump 2024

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    • I agree Gunny.

      And I am astonished that so many seem to think that we will just sit back and accept the vote if it goes the way SD and some are saying it will here.

      Also many seem to think that Pres Trump is fumbling around in DC just hanging around in the White House waiting for the idiots in Congress to tell him if he can stay or not.

      I think our President might just have a plan.

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  41. Grandma Covfefe says:

    Now seeing the whole picture, that would make sense. Thank You, Sundance!
    Only hope we have is… President Trump has something on McTurtle for counter leverage.

    But first things first, the House still has to pass the Floor vote for the real impeachment trial. They still don’t have the votes which they had up to 2 years to do it… it hasn’t happened…they have nothing on President Trump. No real charges and no 2/3 votes. Nothing, Nada. Of course, this only applies to those who respect and follow the rule of law…and this House Dems doesn’t.

    Anything can happen, including McTurtle’s leveraging scheming—don’t forget his wife, Mrs McTurtle, is in President Trump’s employ…is she unknowingly, being used as leverage against her husband?

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  42. JohnCasper says:

    America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves..
    – Abraham Lincoln

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  43. Free Speech says:

    Let them impeach him.
    Tell Mitch to fvck off.
    I’m ready to water the Tree of Liberty.

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  44. WES says:

    I think what SD is trying to prepare us for is the outcome will be 100% political.

    It has nothing todd do with what is right morally or what is legal.

    Just watch how Nancy has changes the House rules! Just watch how Mitch has changed the Senate rules!

    Mitch has already accepted that Nancy’s impeachment as legal!

    What it really boils down to is who has the most leverage (dirt)!

    Maybe President Trump has been holding back all this time, waiting for this decisive battle to ocurr.

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  45. MostlyRight says:

    I’m curious, has anyone done a deep dive on whether all these new judges Mitch is installing are actual Constitutional conservative judges, or are they all just a bunch of Wall Street, globalist friendly judges?

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  46. MostlyRight says:

    Trump beat Jeb, Marco, Hillary, etc. Let’s just see what happens…

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  47. Bryan Alexander says:

    I think some of you people need to wake up and smell the coffee…. Sundance is warning you. If McConnell can only get 6-7 GOP Senators to flip (err, take the bribe), the Swamp likely has blackmail info on 10 other GOP Senators.

    I still say the odds are 50/50 Trump is removed.

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    • The odds are 50/50 that the lying cheating Congress tries to remove Pres Trump illegally.

      Why don’t we wait and see what our very smart President has in mind to fight this.

      I have noticed that many here have already dropped the “President” title before President Trump’s name.

      Giving up already?

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  48. jmarshs says:

    I would add to this discussion that the Left’s field of potential Presidential candidates are so FAR LEFT that it even gives Donohue and the CoC a reason to pause and consider what the US will be like if a Sanders or Warren is elected. If Biden gets elected, then the Uniparty can rest easily. But Biden has been an utter disaster so far, and the Uniparty knows that Trump will sweep the floor with him if he some how manages to stumble his way into the nomination.

    Trump has let the Leftest Genie out of the bottle – and he can’t be put back in. Everyone now sees the Left for what they are – Authoritarians with no concept of market economics or even “playing the multinational game”. The CoC may not like Trump’s realignment of the World’s economy away from China – but do they really want to give up a DOW that’s hovering around 28,000 and accept a New Green Deal and a Wealth Tax? Trump’s economic policies have made the supporters of the CoC lots of money – they have not lost anything in this market.

    Defeating the far Left candidates from being nominated is something that Pelosi, Obama, the Turtle and the CoC can agree upon. If either Sanders or Warren gets the nomination, then Mitch will close ranks with Trump – and possibly Pelosi and Donohue will too, once the Impeachment fails. Obama will campaign against Sanders if he gets too close to the nomination.

    Trump’s election is proof of the limited power of the “establishment” to control the will of the voters and the outcome of an election. The Uniparty knows this works for both the Right and the Left.

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  49. Deplorable Canuck says:

    “If McConnell can rid himself of Tom Donohue’s nemesis, President Trump, and simultaneously return to his preferred and more lucrative position as minority leader, he would be quite happy.”

    What kind of conscience does such a man have who would try to take political advantage of your President when he, and your Nation, are facing such great peril. He would be no patriot and that is for sure. If indeed he is your senate majority leader then perhaps, with such black hearts running your nation’s business, the nation is already irredeemably compromised. You paint a black picture of McConnell, that is for sure.

    I have one question? Will it be the whole Senate voting on impeachment, or merely a jury selected from the Senators, reflective of its current make-up?

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    • safvetblog says:

      It takes 2/3 of those “present and voting” to convict… So, all 100 senators don’t have to be there…

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    • Dennis Leonard says:

      Perhaps SD will read this,

      Read the White House’s response to Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s impeachment stunt

      Back in March, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi inadvertently previewed what would happen if Democrats rewarded their far-left base with a partisan impeachment stunt.

      “Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country,” she said.

      Many rolled their eyes—not because Pelosi was wrong, but because they knew that liberal Democrats would force the Speaker’s hand sooner or later. Sure enough, this morning, she announced that House Democrats would pursue articles of impeachment.

      Press Secretary: Here’s what Congress could’ve been doing this week.

      Keep in mind: In October, two moderate Democrats broke with the far left and joined all Republicans in voting against just the impeachment probe. In other words, even their phony “investigation” itself had bipartisan opposition. An actual impeachment vote is only more likely to drive a wedge between mainstream Americans and House liberals.

      Speaker Pelosi and her caucus are now rushing full-speed ahead toward the fastest impeachment in American history. Why is that? It turns out the more Americans pay attention to what Democrats are doing, the more public support for impeachment drops. Democrat leaders thought that hours of free advertising through marathon TV hearings would work, but when witness after witness failed to produce any evidence of actual criminal wrongdoing by the President, most Americans tuned out.

      So Pelosi was right, of course. A partisan impeachment stunt to appease the left’s anti-Trump base will divide our country deeply. House Democrats just don’t care.

      White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham issued the following statement today in response to Speaker Pelosi’s announcement:

      “At this morning’s press conference, Speaker Nancy Pelosi could have finally announced a vote on the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement that would immediately help America’s farmers, ranchers, businesses, and workers; or outlined a plan to work with the President to lower prescription drug prices; or addressed our Nation’s infrastructure.

      Instead, Speaker Pelosi did exactly what she always does – ignore the needs of the American people and advance her selfish political desires. Democrats’ sham impeachment is a blatant, purely partisan attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. By their own admission, Democrats say they have to ‘impeach the President’ because they cannot defeat him at the ballot box.”

      Read the full statement from Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham.

      More: Democrats’ impeachment report highlights their own “colossal overreach”
      The line the Swamp doesn’t want you see

      There’s something Democrats weren’t counting on when they decided to make their impeachment blitz official in September. Right after Speaker Pelosi launched the probe, President Trump released the full transcript of his call with Ukrainian President Zelensky.

      All the information House Democrats were hoping to dig up—and then selectively leak to their friends in the media—became instantly available to every American citizen.

      One line from that call came up during this week’s hearing, as Democrat witnesses tried to spin President Trump’s request for Ukraine to investigate corruption into a personal political favor.

      Here’s what President Trump actually said: “I would like you to do us a favor though, because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it.” The President goes on to call out potential foul play and meddling during the 2016 election.

      The language makes clear that President Trump’s focus was on keeping his promise to the American people. For more than three years, after all, Washington politicians have claimed to want to get to the bottom of any potential corruption in our elections. Yet when it’s Democrats who may get in trouble, the Swamp fights to cover it up—every time.

      Given that Speaker Pelosi is the same person who said, “We have to pass [Obamacare] so that you can find out what’s in it,” it’s fair to ask a simple question: Did she bother to read the Ukraine transcript, either?

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      • David A says:

        Exactly! P. Trump was clearly speaking as a representative of the U.S. Every one of those “witnesses” against the President should have been reminded of the US Ukraine agreement to root out corruption and asked ” Is it our Presidents duty to pursue justice against corruption when evidence of that corruption is there, regardless of the political affiliations of the potential offenders?”
        I do not recall this question being asked once. It should have been asked of every hostile witness and a real media would make Schift answer the question.

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