The Washington Post Helps Identify FBI Lawyer Who Altered FISA Docs…

At 8:15pm last evening Washington Post journalist Devlin Barrett posted a supportive article for the CNN (Manu Raju) news exclusive that outlined an “FBI Official” who was under criminal investigation as an outcome of the inspector general review of FISA.

The original WaPo article by Devlin Barrett noted the FBI official was actually a “line-level” lawyer who worked “under FBI Agent Peter Strzok.

At 12:15am, the WaPo article was significantly edited, two more journalists (Ellen Nakashima and Matt Zapotosky) were added to the byline.  Unfortunately, no explanation or notation of the changes were given.

~ Above: 8:15pm Washington Post Screen Grab prior to 12:15am edit ~

However, that said, the edit(s) help to identify the identity of the FBI lawyer.  The updated article removed the references to Peter Strzok, and identifies the line-level lawyer thus:

[…] The person under scrutiny is a low-level FBI lawyer who has since been forced out of the agency, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss material that has not yet been made public.

The employee was forced out of the FBI after the incident was discovered, two U.S. officials said. Horowitz found that the employee erroneously indicated he had documentation to back up a claim he had made in discussions with the Justice Department about the factual basis for the application. He then altered an email to back up that erroneous claim, they said. (link)

If you have followed the case closely, the intentional removal of Peter Strzok in combination with the explanation of the lawyer’s FISA responsibilities; and in combination with prior reporting of FBI lawyer 2; it seems pretty obvious the line-level lawyer was Kevin Clinesmith.

If the WaPo article had added all the detail and left in how the line-level attorney worked for Peter Strzok everyone would have known who it was.  Hence they put in more details about his activity but removed the Strzok reference.

Kevin Clinesmith was one of the key FBI small group members on the original Clinton investigation known as the “mid-year exam”, or in text messages the “MYE”.

Within the MYE Clinesmith was one of the key legal staff working with Peter Strzok.  Clinesmith was lawyer #2 for Strzok who eventually transferred to the subsequent Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

Clinesmith was also previously reported to be having an intimate relationship with another member of the FBI team, Sally Moyer, though that is uncertain. [Tashina “Tash” Guahar was also a key legal figure on the Main Justice side of the MYE team.]

Sally Moyer was FBI unit chief in the Office of General Counsel (counterintelligence legal unit within the FBI Office of General Counsel).

Ms. Moyer was responsible for the legal compliance within the FBI counterintelligence operations that generated FISA applications.

When the MYE investigation finished, the Carter Page FISA construction is where Kevin Clinesmith and Sally Moyer come together in their next assignment, the FBI investigation of Trump.

Additionally, Tashina “Tash” Guahar was then Deputy Assistant Attorney General (DAAG) in the Department of Justice National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) with responsibility over the assembly of FISA applications in Main Justice. In essence the FISA lawyer.

[Related Sidebar: Current ICIG Michael Atkinson, the IG who modified the whistle-blower forms and allowed a hearsay CIA whistle-blower complaint, was the chief legal counsel for the head of the DOJ-NSD at the time all of this was happening.  Yeah, sketchy]

This is what it looks like put together:

In the Carter Page FISA application FBI line-level lawyer Clinesmith is responsible for the underlying evidence. FBI unit chief lawyer Sally Moyer is responsible for the citations (the “woods file”) that identifies the underlying evidence.  And then DOJ Tashina Guahar is responsible for the final application assembly; then it goes off to the top level DOJ and FBI superiors for signatures and submission to the court.

The WaPo article cites Clinesmith: “erroneously indicated he had documentation to back up a claim he had made in discussions with the Justice Department about the factual basis for the application. He then altered an email to back up that erroneous claim.” That “back up citation” would be where his girlfriend Sally Moyer puts the Woods File citation.

This FISA assembly process: Clinesmith to Moyer to Guahar, took place in October 2016.

Almost three years later, Inspector General Michael Horowitz finishes his investigation and notes the issue with the documentation that supports the Woods File requirement.

This is part of Horowitz draft report as delivered to Attorney General Barr in September. According to the Washington Post the lawyer was “forced to resign.”  Further confirmation of the identity is found within the LinkedIn profile for Kevin Clinesmith, which shows he left the FBI in September.  Sally Moyer has unknown status. However, when Horowitz delivered his initial report Tashina Guahar was still at DOJ-NSD.

Shortly after IG Horowitz delivers the draft of his investigative report to AG Bill Barr, Tash Guahar quietly leaves the DOJ-NSD {Go Deep} and is reported to have taken a job with Boeing Corp.   In hindsight the reason for Guahar’s mysterious exit makes sense.

According to both the CNN and Washington Post report, the issue with the underlying ‘Woods File’ evidence has led U.S. Attorney John Durham to conduct a criminal investigation.  That investigation would include Kevin Clinesmith, the “line-level lawyer”.

A concerning part of the Washington post report is this:

[…] That conduct did not alter Horowitz’s finding that the surveillance application of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page had a proper legal and factual basis, the officials said.

That sounds like a white-wash outcome; mistakes were made, move along etc. etc.  But, if we look back upon the status of our research when the Sally Moyer transcript was released, that outcome was actually predictable.

FromMAY 2019:

Sally Moyer was FBI unit chief in the Office of General Counsel (counterintelligence legal unit within the FBI Office of General Counsel). Moyer reported to an unnamed section chief, who reported to Trisha Beth Anderson, who was deputy legal counsel to James Baker.

Ms. Moyer is responsible for the legal compliance within the FBI counterintelligence operations that generated FISA applications:

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Pictured Above: Ms. Sally Moyer

A review of the Moyer transcript clarifies a few aspects:

First, the DOJ/FBI team, “the small group”, specifically the legal officials who were ultimately participating in the process that permits politicization and weaponization of government intelligence systems, was also the exact same legal group who reviewed (and approved) the 2018 inspector general report into FBI conduct during the 2016 election outlining the DOJ and FBI activity.

In essence, the DOJ/FBI bureaucratic corruption is so widespread, the corrupt officials involved are the same people who are the decision-makers in the amount of sunlight the Office of Inspect General is allowed to put forth. Now the disconnect between the OIG executive summary and the body of content material makes sense:

Secondly, Ms. Moyer explains how FBI verification of the FISA application used against U.S. Person Carter Page is essentially just making sure the citations align to show who is making the claims.

The underlying FISA application material does not need to be verified; rather the FBI source material is just accurately cited and attributed.  Note that’s where Clinesmith comes in.

Ultimately what this testimony reveals is that any U.S. person can be subjected to a Title-1 FISA surveillance warrant so long as the FBI (and DOJ) can accurately cite the reason for the underlying suspicion.  The FBI citation is the “Woods Procedure”, and it is in this citation process where Kevin Clinesmith is said to have made false documents to support the citation(s).

Sally Moyer infers the merit of the accusation has nothing to do with the citation for the claim.  However, this is where the IG report is taking issue with the FBI citation:

…Horowitz found that the employee [Kevin Clinesmith] erroneously indicated he had documentation to back up a claim he had made in discussions with the Justice Department about the factual basis for the application. He then altered an email to back up that erroneous claim… (link)

If he’s altering an email, it sounds to me like Clinesmith is modifying communication with an FBI source to construct a citation for a claim within the FISA application; perhaps that FBI source is Christopher Steele.

Again, it’s circular.

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667 Responses to The Washington Post Helps Identify FBI Lawyer Who Altered FISA Docs…

  1. Abe Lincoln says:

    U gotta be kidding me. This kabuki theater never ends

    Liked by 18 people

    • richard verney says:

      The case against Comey for leaking and mishandling of sensitive documents was a slam dunk case, and it was this leaking etc that put Aamerica through the mueller investigation, which investigation in turn probably resulted in the democrats taking Congress in 2018 (Mueller put his thumb on the scales by not releasing Part 1 of the report, ie., the Russia Conspiracy/Collusion aspect say at least by sping of 2018). yet comey has walked on this.

      I have always thought that the case on the First FISA Warrant was difficult, and possibly weak. The Super Patriot Defence works well with respect to the First Warrant. Further, had the FBI come clean with the FISA Court would the Court not have granted the Warrant in any event? Consider “we have recently come accross the Steele Dossier which we are presently seeking to verify. It raises issues of such seriousness, ie, the potential President might be beholden to Russia and an Russia asset, and the election is only a few weeks away. There can be nothing more serious to the safety and interests of America, than the election of a President beholden and subject to control by Russia, and given the very short period of time between now and the election, we consider that the best way to verify this Dossier, and to avoid a potentially disastrous situation where a russian asset is elected to the highest office of the land and Commander and Chief,is for the Court to grant the Warrant, and we would urge the Court to uphold our request and issue the Warrant etc”

      The FBI would, on this basis, be seeking the warrant for the best interests of America and indeed the West itself. I would expect a Court to err on the side of caution, and grant the warrant, possible with some condition, or with no condition at all since it would fall for renewal in January 2017. In those circumstances the FBI would have been economical with the truth, ie that they already had concerns with the Dossier, or knew of reasons where a reasonable person would have concerns with the Dossier, but Super Patriotism potentially trumps those concerns. The problem has always been more to do with the later warrants, and the conflict of telling the Court that the Dossier is verified, and telling President elect Trump that it is unverified.

      Expect the Deep State to cover its own. Hopes rest with Durham and Barr, not the IG.

      Liked by 5 people

    • old white guy says:

      Abe, looks like they have found someone to throw under the bus.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Aeyrie says:

      No kidding! It’s hard to believe that nobody has to back up their FISA documentation with the facts and evidence. Good Lord! That leaves holes you could drive a truck through, and it looks like certain weasels have taken full advantage of that weakness.

      I am not an attorney. The more I learn about this the stronger it smells. Am I wrong in thinking the whole secret FISA court process is anathema to American jurisprudence and should be heavily weighted and thrown overboard? Would love to read comments.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Robert Smith says:

      I feel like it’s getting real now.

      But, yes, we need consequences.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Cam Heck says:

      Don’t tell me, let me guess Horowitz: 500 pages full of small fish like ‘Wordsmith’, and no bias? Is that what you found?

      Liked by 1 person

  2. TarsTarkas says:

    The modern day memory hole. O’Brien would have been proud. Clinesmith has to be pissed.

    Liked by 1 person

  3. A call for honesty says:

    Which is more likely? A litany or errors or a web of deceit?

    Liked by 7 people

  4. Nobodysfool says:

    Where on earth do Dem’s dig up these people?

    Liked by 7 people

  5. citizen817 says:

    This is a travesty. Deep State (Horowitz) throws a small fry lawyer to DOJ, but no higher ups in the chain of corruption.
    Durham is our last greatest hope to bring the real enemies to the forefront, and out all (most)
    the main conspirators for the public to finally see. The voting public needs to be made aware.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Boots says:

      Durham is our last greatest hope
      —–
      Wrong.

      First, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is where all our hope should be and where our prayers should be going.

      Second, application of the second amendment towards it’s true purpose of throwing over a tyrannical government is what we should be planning for.

      Liked by 15 people

    • Zippy says:

      “Deep State (Horowitz) throws a small fry lawyer to DOJ, but no higher ups in the chain of corruption.”

      How was that not entirely predictable based upon past experience?

      Research who was the only person to get jail time for the -WIDESPREAD MASSIVE FRAUD- in the financial sector merely touched upon in the great non-fiction film, “The Big Short,” fraud which caused the Global Financial Crisis. Just a low-level lackey.

      Here’s my favorite quote from that film which applies to FAR more than it’s then-intended target. I’ve cleaned it up to post here:

      Mark Baum: It’s time to call b******t.
      Vinnie Daniel: B******t on what?
      Mark Baum: Every f******g thing!

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  6. Bigly says:

    I had to stop reading, too early. Good grief. Just feels like nothing is going to happen, meanwhile, Roger Stone – an effective operative, is facing 50 years in prison for a process “crime”.

    Our side is weak and pathetic.

    Liked by 9 people

    • mdaush says:

      Look at the whole picture. Hunter Biden, Epstein, Kerry’s step son and now this. The snowball is rolling downhill, getting bigger by the hour. Get some popcorn. Let Trump be Trump.

      Liked by 6 people

      • Boots says:

        Look at the whole picture. Hunter Biden, Epstein, Kerry’s step son and now this. The snowball is rolling downhill, getting bigger by the hour.

        We’ve been looking at the “whole picture” for several years. That picture clearly shows the heads of this snake, Obama, Hillary, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Yates, Boente, McCord, Ohr, Rosenstein, and the rest of the entire cast of characters will never be held accountable but instead will be protected by faux IG’s who’s loyalty isn’t to the constitution or the rule of law, but to the state and the power they possess through their position therein.

        Your attempt to misdirect is either ignorant, transparent, or both.

        Liked by 5 people

        • Zippy says:

          Exactly. The “royals” control the only system which could investigate and punish them. Who watches the watchmen? That was supposed to be the press which was one of the reasons for the 1st Amendment, but they’re entirely compromised, too.

          Liked by 1 person

      • 1herder says:

        ….and peelousy’s son too…

        Liked by 2 people

    • Matt Bracken says:

      Roger Stone, Jeffrey Epstein and the Crackup of America’s Leadership
      Tucker Carlson / Nov 22 / Townhall [Don’t miss this entire column.]

      Roger Stone was recently convicted in federal court on seven felony charges, stemming from the since-closed Russian collusion investigation. Stone’s main crime was lying to Congress about who he had, or had not, spoken to about Russia. By the time Stone’s trial began in Washington, nobody was talking about WikiLeaks anymore. Nobody cared. Yet prosecutors continued as if it were 2017. For lying about something now irrelevant, they argued that Roger Stone should spend up to 50 years in prison, the rest of his life. At the very moment prosecutors were making that case — that Stone’s misstatements ought to be a death penalty offense — Congressman Adam Schiff was busy lying to the rest of us about new things, some that actually matter. Schiff didn’t seem worried about lying. He knows he’ll never be prosecuted for it. In Washington, dishonesty is strictly a one-way offense.

      Yet despite the irony of all this, Stone was convicted. Official Washington cheered. “Rot in hell!” they screamed on Twitter. What’s interesting about the response to Stone’s case — both from federal prosecutors and the conventional media — is how much harsher it was than anything that greeted convicted child molester Jeffrey Epstein. When Epstein was released from his first prison term, he hosted a dinner at his home with ABC News host George Stephanopoulos, former NBC host Katie Couric, Chelsea Handler, Woody Allen, CBS’s Charlie Rose, British Prince Andrew and many others. Do you think Stephanopoulos would consider having dinner at Stone’s house? Of course not. That would be immoral. FBI officials, apparently, agree.

      You’ll remember what happened when Stone was arrested. Dozens of federal agents with automatic weapons, armored vehicles and a helicopter descended on his home in a middle-class part of Fort Lauderdale and rousted the 66-year-old and his wife from bed at rifle point. Just to make sure the event inflicted maximum humiliation, the feds tipped off CNN, which was there to capture the whole thing live. That’s how our government treated a man facing perjury charges.
      [rest at link]
      https://townhall.com/columnists/tuckercarlsonandneilpatel/2019/11/22/roger-stone-jeffrey-epstein-and-the-crackup-of-americas-leadership-n2556898?fbclid=IwAR0VdOXYod7ExyuVxoM4qLBfOnJmvbiE9I8S2IYRm2m56aXoh9nlj4VAqHg

      Liked by 5 people

    • Cam Heck says:

      weak and pathetic? au contraire; corrupt and complicit, more likely

      Like

  7. Terra Rayner says:

    I dont think they can ignore this that easily!! If the application contained altered info and then this agent lied claiming to have proof of the claim in the app. then alters an email to provide as proof…thats pretty huge! The FISA app altered and then the proof provided is altered and then finally admits to both being falsified….no way to skate with this. Whoever told Barrett isn’t the actual target….the CNN article claims that it did change the facts of the claim!

    Liked by 2 people

    • gsonFIT says:

      Also Devin Nunes has a bit of research too.

      Liked by 2 people

    • BitterC says:

      Saw some tweets of some transcripts from some of Nunes’ house depos (Tash’s I believe) and she stated the backup info in the Woods file only provides a source for things claimed in the warrant……it in no way is meant to be verification of the facts. THEY DO NOT PROVIDE VETTED VERIFICATION

      Example Cohen in Prague. Just throw any of the false media reports and you’ve satisfied Woods

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  8. Gort says:

    Horowitz calls the lawyer’s claim an error. Then Horowitz says the lawyer altered an email to back up the claim.

    The criminal investigation (Durham) would presumably be to determine if the “error” was actually intentional and the altered email was obstruction of justice and if all of the above was part of a much larger criminal conspiracy.

    Enter Durhan’s grand jury: tell the lawyer he is the subject of a criminal investigation and see if he sings . . . .

    Liked by 3 people

  9. “A concerning part of the Washington post report is this:

    […] That conduct did not alter Horowitz’s finding that the surveillance application of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page had a proper legal and factual basis, the officials said.

    That sounds like a white-wash…”

    I.. I..

    [burn]

    Liked by 6 people

  10. SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

    Sundance, you’re linked in this FOX news article about it:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/horowitz-finds-evidence-fbi-employee-altered-russia-probe-document

    The Post, hours after publishing its story, conspicuously removed the portion of its reporting(sundance twitter link) that the FBI employee involved was underneath Peter Strzok, the FBI’s since-fired head of counterintelligence.

    Liked by 7 people

    • T2020 says:

      Thanks for this. That thread produced this tweet:

      Liked by 5 people

    • T2020 says:

      Thanks for this. That thread produced this tweet:

      Liked by 1 person

    • T2020 says:

      Thanks for this. That thread produced this tweet:

      Like

    • Vito Romano says:

      “removed the portion of its reporting” underlined hyperlink in Fox article.

      Below is the Fox -> Sundance twitter link SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty is referring to:

      Liked by 4 people

  11. LDave says:

    Don’t get your hopes up. Keep pushing on to November, Treepers.

    Liked by 3 people

  12. Peter Rabbit says:

    Horowitz was 0 for 2 on his previous OIG Reports. Who can really be surprised by the whitewash coming on number 3? Small fry caught. Big fry walk and laugh at us.

    Trust the Plan. We’re really going to nail them on a future report! Right. Got it. 3D Chess.

    Beautiful. Really beautiful.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Matt Bracken says:

      An IG is a designated coverup and whitewash specialist.
      He’s there to put at pretty ribbon and bow over the stink of corruption.
      Why do you think they picked ICIG Atkinson? For his integrity?
      IGs are there to front the coverup.

      Liked by 4 people

    • wildsailor2018 says:

      Many, many, big fish were caught by first catching the ‘bait fish’ and getting a good deposition intending to save their own hide. Offer him a ‘deal’ in exchange for the information on who told him to do what. Knowing how these people operate he likely has an email chain, text messaging log, or some other evidence ‘just in case’ they make him the fall guy.

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      • Garavaglia says:

        Depends on the “punishment” he’s facing. if it’s light, The go fund mes and payoffs for a job well done would outweigh the fear of the punishment. We haven’t even seen anyone charged with anything.

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  13. T2020 says:

    Ok. As SD points out,;

    “If he’s altering an email, it sounds to me like Clinesmith is modifying communication with an FBI source to construct a citation for a claim within the FISA application; perhaps that FBI source is Christopher Steele.”

    That is a MAJOR CRIMINAL VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. AN INTENTIONALLY WEAPONIZED INTELLIGENCE DEPT. If true, then the F_I can take any citizen down by merely creating and using an unverified source as a “footnote” to fk them up just because they can. NOT OK AND ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED (FROM TOP TO BOTTOM) SHOULD NOT ONLY BE FIRED AND PENSION TAKEN, BUT CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED!!!!

    Liked by 8 people

  14. Rachel Guess says:

    No, that is NOT what the Woods Procedures are…they are attempting to modify the meaning of the Woods requirements to limit their liability for the attempted coup plot because they know their backsides are severely exposed and Durham will take a BIG bloody bite out of them.

    This will only be the beginning, and eventually they will throw a couple of ‘sacrificial lambs’, probably clinesmith and moyer to begin with, under the bus in order to protect the ones on top, ie comey (lurch), brennan (jaba dahutt), clapper (gollum), lo-rent lynch, and odimwit. I hope that it doesn’t work, but I have seen this scenario before.

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    • If Horowitz intended to say that Clinesmith’s manipulation was meaningless, why bring it up at all?

      Sounds like folks at The Top are providing cover for Stzrok to keep him from spilling the beans. Or, judging from his demeanor while testifying, Stzrok was already aware this “Firewall” was in place.

      Liked by 3 people

    • mike says:

      Everyone signing should be clapped in prison for the Rights violations.
      Some should probably be executed for treason once CCP China’s 30 year state of war on the US is recognized…

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  15. 13wasylyna says:

    Paging Mr Horowitz…paging Horrorwitz….Patsy has been identified

    Liked by 5 people

  16. Boknows says:

    Moyer was known on this site months ago as Sundance featured her story and photos.

    Does this lead to her arrest today?

    If not, why not?

    Is anyone of authority in the Democrat Party or Deep State connected to this suspected FISA abuse, and any other form of illegal spying?

    If so, will they be arrested?

    If not, why not?

    This is great this story has hit the newswires. However, Is this the person they chose to run over with the bus and say, “Look what we did to stop that oily rascal who changed that document? All better now.” ??

    Or is this the very tip of the tip of the iceberg?

    Liked by 3 people

    • beach lover says:

      Agree. Although ya have to think if this was all there was, Horowitz would have been done months ago… maybe years!

      I think these are the little people that exposes the beginning. I worry about the statement of the “document NOT altering the foundation of the application.” So, is the FISA not the crime? Hopefully, more info will come out quickly.

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  17. Elle says:

    I need to step back and look at the bright side. 3+ years ago, it was considered laughable that our government was wiretapping Trump. Today, it is established fact along with knowledge that allied goernments assisted them. Additionally, Mueller and the Schiff Show have had demonstrated the Streisand Effect, enlightening millions of Americans that our government is 95% corrupt, treasonous and compromised by greed and global interests.

    Liked by 13 people

    • Peoria Jones says:

      Great point, Elle. When you step back, the big picture can be seen. It’s huge. So easy to lose sight of it when immersed in the myriad of details.

      I sometimes see this with people who DON’T follow this mess closely. They’re starting to get that our federal gov’t (even FBI) is full of liars, spyers, and thieves – and that PTrump was targeted.

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    • hokkoda says:

      And with it the dawning realization that there is virtually no hope that anything can be done about it, and that same Government Party is increasingly brazen and proud about their ability to lie and eff with people with impunity.

      The frustration level people have with The Capitol is turning into hopelessness.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Dekester says:

        hokkada, thank you for your posts. I thoroughly enjoy them.

        Hopelessness while understandable. Is exactly what these M.fo’s want.

        Acceptance has proven to be a more powerful emotion for me, and a few of my close friends.

        I accept that the MSM, Dems, and RINO are scum.

        That are unlikely to change.

        Prayer, meditation and good positive action whenever possible are essential to my well being.

        This train wreck that the U.S. government and its alphabet agencies have become will have far reaching consequences.

        I have met many different types of individuals through work, and in my personal situation.

        A common theme is a near uniform distrust of the U.S. government and its agencies.

        Ukraine’s people voted 73% for Zelensky, and they likely know all about Biden, and the rest of the U.S. State Dept and will be utterly disgusted. Other European nations like Croatia, Poland and Hungary. Are very pro PDJT, and have seen this game before. They too know especially Orban in Hungary.

        All have been under totalitarian regimes, and are now prospering.

        The U.S. public has been delusional for years.

        PDJT has changed all that and more.

        What comes next?

        God has a plan or he doesn’t.

        “I can’t he can let him”

        God bless PDJT

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    • Zippy says:

      “I need to step back and look at the bright side”

      I agree. The Swamp/Deep State is afraid of a SECOND term for Trump when, no longer having to avoid stepping on Swamp/Deep State toes to get reelected, he’d be free to really kick some a**. SO afraid that they are for the first time willing to make the existence of a Deep State so painfully obvious to anyone not getting their news from the Deep State’s lapdog corporate media.

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      • mushroom says:

        Exactly.
        Vote PDJT 2020!!!
        He will have a REAL 4 year term, knowing how evil these people are!
        Trim his staff by 75%, and get to the real work for the American people.

        …and vote out all these incumbent rats.

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  18. gsonFIT says:

    He looks a lot like Vindman. Viva la resistance Mofo

    Liked by 4 people

  19. Seneca the Elder says:

    Again, I have no words for Sundance’s brilliance in putting this all together. Entire Government agencies have not done as good a job.

    The unmitigated corruption that has been revealed in the Intelligence Community is breathtaking. Where did it begin and when will it end, if ever? We have seen it on parade this week as we watched the Swamp creatures slithering about at the hearings, their arrogance, contempt and hatred for our President Trump on display.

    Does anyone really believe that any of them, the servants of Satan, have remorse for the evil they have done? I certainly saw no indication that they were sorry or contrite for anything. In fact, I don’t think there is ONE of them who wouldn’t do it again.

    And then to top it off, another detailed recitation of the crimes and treachery of the other Small Group that helped start the fire. It’s almost like they’re playing with us at this point. As if to say, yeah , we did this, no what are you gonna do about it? They are literally getting away with murder, treason and sedition, yet Stone, Flynn, Manafort et al are being punished with impunity and our great President is attacked on all sides 24/7/365.

    I expect no Justice or relief from the other Swamp creatures including Barr and Horowitz. Divine Providence gave us our President Trump and ultimately I have to believe that Divine Providence will save us and prevail. Just as Lucifer was long ago cast out of Heaven, his creatures that we are dealing with today will be dealt with. This is what I am holding on to and praying for every day.

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    • Boots says:

      Ah, Seneca. Wonderful post. With the keeper here:

      “I expect no Justice or relief from the other Swamp creatures including Barr and Horowitz. Divine Providence gave us our President Trump and ultimately I have to believe that Divine Providence will save us and prevail. Just as Lucifer was long ago cast out of Heaven, his creatures that we are dealing with today will be dealt with. This is what I am holding on to and praying for every day.”

      I’m twixt and tween as to will He save us or let America go for her national sins. “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these”, Jesus said. And “What have you done?” replied the LORD. “The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground. Now you are cursed and banished…”

      How many millions of babies has America slaughtered? Would He be wrong to turn us over to our enemies? Hezekiah walked with God and God killed 185,000 Assyrians encamped against the city. Will God save America? Or is it too late? Time will tell.

      I will be as the Maccabees. Outnumbered, outgunned, surrounded. Defiant, determined, and effective in my mission until the end.

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      • I’ve pondered the same.

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      • lolli says:

        Boots,
        Said “Would He be wrong to turn us over to our enemies? “
        Consequences of allowing evil to run rampant?

        God is merciful and answers prayers, but are we listening to God?
        The walls of Jericho came down because Joshua listened and acted. He didn’t sit and wait for God to bring the wall down magically, even though God could. God uses us as his tools to achieve His purpose.

        Are we really going to sit here while they remove our President and destroy his family. Are we going to watch as evil takes over?
        I guess we will find out.

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        • Aeyrie says:

          “God is merciful and answers prayers, but are we listening to God?
          The walls of Jericho came down because Joshua listened and acted. He didn’t sit and wait for God to bring the wall down magically, even though God could. God uses us as his tools to achieve His purpose.”

          Very true, Lolli. It has been my experience in Life that you can make many mistakes and be forgiven for all of them IF you recognize your mistakes and do everything you can to correct them. AND correct your ways as well so you don’t keep making the same mistakes. Our God is a Loving God. I love Him all the more for so lovingly guiding me into the right path as He is allowing me to work out my own salvation.

          We’ve got our country to save, people! Let’s get to work.

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        • ILOT says:

          If you subscribe entirely that these events are in the hand of Providence and that God will in fact bring salvation in some form, then you HAVE to believe that God is coercing (?) us to believe prayer is the ONLY course of action we have as Americans. You have to believe that he is somehow telling us that posting “nothing will happen to the coup plotters” as so many geniuses and insightful posters have done (tongue in cheek) is our recourse as opposed to action. While prayer is key, I have presented a more terrestrial, earthly opportunity to chart our destiny. I’ll simply ask 2 questions, perhaps rhetorical in that no one knows the outcome for sure but 1). “what if millions of citizens called their rep / senator and expressed a Thank You for supporting Mr. Barr as he mobilizes resources to support exactly what he said he would be doing in his few statements which amount to protecting the Office of the President (not just PDJT). We expect indictments, there is no other way. 2). Email Mr Barr’s office and thank him for his courage as he takes on the challenges he faces and let him know we expect him to do what he said he would and that you support him and his team. We expect indictments. I’ll propose 3) especially if you live in a district that recently flipped from Red to Blue in Congress and this can be done either via phone or email 3). Dear Rep _______, with the impeachment witnesses clearly showing no impeachable offense, we expect a NO vote in order to END this impeachment process before it goes into the Judiciary Committee. My vote in 2020 is contingent on your vote on this matter.

          So we all choose how we spend our time and energy. Whining on posting sites is one way, telling others to lower their expectations on these sites is another. I tend to believe that many voices spoken in calm, measured and logical tones that hold individuals accountable for their own words tend to be an effective tool in providing motivation.

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          • Garavaglia says:

            I am a prayerful person..I ask God for his will..and the power to carry that out. I may have missed it though..where David prayed for Goliath before placing a rock between his eyes.

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    • Val says:

      Yes! Our faith can never be on any human being. I remember that people prayed before the 2016 election because we had no other hope than God. He answered us, but we need to keep our focus on Him and Him alone.

      If we keep focusing on human beings for our solutions, we are bound to make the same mistakes Israel made at the Battle of Ai – (Joshua 8).

      God is working. The walls of Jericho are down. Let’s keep our faith in God. It has been proved that we cannot “help“ Him. This is His battle. Jesus Christ defeated Satan on the cross. Our part is:
      -to humble ourselves;
      -to pray seeking God’s will;
      -to turn from our wicked ways.
      (2 Chronicles 7:14)

      I don’t know Sundance, but the way I see is that God is using Sundance as a watchman to point that to us. We need to keep him/her in our prayers as well.

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  20. mg says:

    Lol at you people that think anyone is going to jail. FBI.CIA, and DOJ are crooked. Horowitz has been a plant for a very long time. He may have been a wife beater or pedophile, until he proves otherwise.

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    • Lt Col Covfefe999 says:

      I hate to just pick on you because there are other comments like yours in this and other threads. But yours has an extra element that I find offensive. You are not only extremely pessimistic and seem to enjoy sharing your pessimism with others, you are also demaining people who are more hopeful than you are. You are basically telling people who still hold out hope for justice (I am not one of them btw) that they are stupid. Morale is important when you’re in the middle of a war. Proclamations that “we’re never going to win” are damaging. Which side are you on?

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  21. Boots says:

    Sally Moyer. Skanky d-bag, extraordinaire. Lowlife, pos human being. Elitist, entitlement, superiority complex, morally superior attitude towards anyone not in govt and everyone not a liberal ahole.

    https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2018/06/22/sally-moyer-fbi-identified/
    FTA

    Threatened Trump and supporters:
    ———————————————-
    According to the New York Post’s Paul Sperry, among the incendiary messages Moyer exchanged with her FBI man, she called Trump’s supporters “retarded” and claimed she would quit “on the spot” if he won the presidency:

    “Moyer, in an Oct. 28, 2016, instant message, said she was ‘sick’ of Trump and later called his supporters ‘retarded.’ On Election Day, she said Clinton had ‘better win … otherwise I’m gonna be walking around with both my guns … and like quitting on the spot,’ adding, ‘Screw you, Trump.’”

    (Boots note: anyone else in America would’ve been at least interviewed if not arrested by FBI and/or SS [apropos name!]. But this d-bag skank skates because she’s a card carrying member of the communist family bureau of intimidation and inferences.)

    Wrist Slap Mention by Horowitz
    ——————————————
    The IG report discovered no specific investigative tampering in the Hillary examination. But still:

    “[Agents’ messages] cast a cloud over the FBI [Clinton] investigation and sowed doubt [concerning] the FBI’s work on, and its handling of, the [Clinton] investigation. … Moreover, the damage caused by their actions extends far beyond the scope of the Midyear investigation and goes to the heart of the FBI’s reputation for neutral fact-finding and political independence (see how the media reacted here).”

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  22. angech says:

    It is an actual domino and it is falling over!
    Who will be next?
    Expect a slow drip of new charges, one a day, from here on.
    Building to a crescendo.
    1.
    Who will be no 2 Sundance?
    Lisa Page seems very likely source.

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  23. angech says:

    It is an actual domino and it is falling over!
    Who will be next?
    Expect a slow drip of new charges, one a day, from here on.
    Building to a crescendo.
    1.
    Who will be no 2 Sundance?
    Lisa Page seems very likely source.

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  24. Proud American from Texas says:

    Do either of these characters connect with the testimony where the sign-off of one of the FISA applications was done by a higher level employee and skipped a level?
    One lady in the normal sign-off procedure said she normally signed off, but her supervisor (I think) just signed off on the application, rather than depend on the lower level review.
    I recall this as coming from HPSCI depositions, but not who made the statement, other than it was a female expressing her surprise that the sign-off was not normal.
    Anybody remember this enough to comment?

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    • Proud American from Texas says:

      I found it. It was Trisha Anderson’s testimony about McCabe and Yates signing off before her, which was opposite standard procedure. And, her testimony related to the FISA warrant obtained in October. Comey signed it as well, but he may seek cover from prosecution, since Yates and McCabe signed it before him.

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  25. Merkin Muffley says:

    Looks like Lawfare was prepared to throw Clinesmith under the bus, then changed its mind.

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  26. Lt Col Covfefe999 says:

    These stooge “journalists” were the go-tos for Strzok and Page and probably many other traitors. So in addition to mulling the info provided we need to question why this leaked info was published. What’s the benefit to the traitors? Are they signalling to all of the other traitors? We know CNN and WaPo didn’t publish the info to enlighten the public, that’s for sure.

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    • Lt Col Covfefe999 says:

      By the way, great job Sundance or whoever found that “Kevin C” LinkedIn profile. That was a great find.

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    • Dixie says:

      That’s a good point. This morning that information was the main headline on the Fox News internet page. Somebody certainly wanted everyone to know that Strzok’s name had been removed, I assume to “out” Clinesmith?

      Our Super Sleuth, Sundance, can find a needle in a haystack though. He would have uncovered it anyway.

      The cesspool just keeps getting wider and deeper.

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    • Matt Bracken says:

      Devlin Barrett, David Ignatius and Michael Isikoff are the deep state’s designated fake “journolist” Stasi Stooge Leak Conduits. I made this meme a few years back.

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      • listingstarboard says:

        Isikoff helped Chalupa nail Manafort I believe. Reluctantly watched the Oliver Stone documentaries on Ukraine thinking it would be pure Hollywood propaganda–WOW it was not–It was fascinating and informative-highly recommend!!

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  27. sundance says:

    Be of good cheer…. I have a suspicion we are going to learn a lot more about those who manipulated the FISA processes. The first attempt at justification from the usurpers to CNN and the WaPo is very weak defense.

    There’s going to be more. I can tell.

    Take the media comments about Horowitz perspective on the legality of the process with a grain of salt. This is simply the deep state defending itself. Those two articles were only day #1 of the leaks starting. There will be more before the report is made public.

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    • Proud American from Texas says:

      Thanks for that. I crawled back inside the window and off the ledge after reading.

      Liked by 8 people

    • Justin Green says:

      I have to give props to CNN and the Washington post. Even with all the spin, I bet they choked just a bit reporting the basic fact, lol.

      Liked by 2 people

    • bulwarker says:

      I want to believe, but I have a hard time forgetting the two scapegoated (and unpunished) “low level employees in Cincinnati” who were blamed for the IRS scandal.

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      • Aeyrie says:

        For sure, Bulwarker. There are going to be a LOT of scapegoats this time. The corruption we are witnessing now is waayyyy too big and deep to hide. The crimes that seem unconnected at this point are all connected like the root system under crab grass. Pull up a patch and you will keep pulling! There will be no way to hide it all. Even if social media is severely restricted the truth will still come out. The country is awake.

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      • fabrabbit says:

        Well, we have a different adimistration and Loretta Lynch is no longer AG.

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    • lolli says:

      Thank you, Sundance for this ray of hope.
      You are truly a courageous Patriot 🇺🇸 And we are greatly blessed to have you at this time. Doing the Lords work, spreading truth and light. God bless you and keep you safe.

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    • Chimpy says:

      Yet, the pessimists are here today in force.

      It’s been painfully slow in coming, for sure. And we need to continue to keep our expectations in check. However, for many months, we’ve all read the doomsayers on this board broadcast how there will never be any indictments and all the lib operatives were going to avoid accountability.

      Now that it seems that the wheels of justice are starting to move a little, they just shift their whining to something else. It never ends for some.

      I don’t know what would be worse: Being someone who always sees the glass as mostly empty, or being a Democrat? Tough call. 😜

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      • Aeyrie says:

        LMAO!

        Liked by 1 person

      • Mark says:

        You use the terms whiners…I deal with facts and reality. There has been no one held accountable for any of this. Why does Durham have to wait for the slow walked IG report to start indicting people? Why hasn’t McCabe been indicted for multiple lies? We now see that the previous IG report was reviewed by the same guilty parties involved.

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        • Lt Col Covfefe999 says:

          I totally understand that because you haven’t seen McCabe indicted yet you are frustrated. I am too. But you really have no idea yet what’s going to happen to him or the other traitors. Our side doesn’t leak. You can say “They’ll never be punished” and maybe you’ll be right, but you really have no idea yet. Better to say “I’m afraid McCabe will never be indicted”. People really ought to stop with the outrageous we’re-all-gonna-die proclamations, or ridiculous unfounded claims (like one above theorizing that Horowitz is a “plant”, “wife beater”, or “pedophile”).

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        • Chimpy says:

          Yes, I did use the term “whine”.

          Sticking to facts and reality are good things. The posters that I was referring to have been making (and continue to make) hyperbolic negative predictions about the future.

          Not facts. Not reality.

          Only their incessant need to wring their fingers, be miserable, and whine.

          Yup, just said it again. 😜

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    • delighteddeplorable says:

      “Be of good cheer” from Sundance certainly works for me. 👍
      Add in POTUS’ confidence that the swamp is indeed draining and it’s been a very good week.

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  28. sunnyflower5 says:

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  29. sundance says:

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  30. franuche says:

    Nobody here is surprised that it was a “low-level” person that’s a fall-guy, right? That’s all it will ever be. Horowitz, Durham, and Co. will make sure it’s so.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Lt Col Covfefe999 says:

      “Low level” is CNN’s assessment. But they’re the fake news purveyors and they are clearly trying to shape some kind of narrative in advance of the report being released.

      If the attorney is Kevin Clinesmith then “low level” is absolutely inaccurate. He wasn’t in a top position but he had a position of importance.

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    • fabrabbit says:

      Franuche, do have have information we do not, please share some facts.

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  31. Dixie says:

    I am just appalled at the arrogance, smugness and dishonesty of so many corrupt people. Was being a traitor and hating America a requirement for the jobs in the DOJ and FIB? It’s certainly does not represent us.

    I can only assume O was a draw for people like this.

    The whole government is full of the worst people this country has to offer. Morally, we’ve been going downhill since the Clintons.

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    • Lt Col Covfefe999 says:

      Don’t forget stupidity. Strzok and Page are the ultimate example, the dipsticks sent 50,000 texts to each other on their FBI phones to hide their affair from their spouses. Really brilliant, now they are both out of their government jobs. Clinesmith or whoever the attorney was who altered an email is now out of a job, and possibly facing criminal prosecution. McCabe, outed and now out of a job. Numerous other traitors jumped ship otherwise they would have been fired too, maybe they’re slightly less stupid.

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    • powderdayrules says:

      Moral decline started IMO with LBJ. He was CIA, entered public service with a net worth of $400K and left with $60M. I was a kid when they killed JFK, and when they then killed his brother RFK (who was the attorney general!! – probably the only person he could trust) I knew then we were a banana republic. But Reagan was clean and WAS shot for his trouble. If harm comes to our POTUS we’re back to 1860. Don’t put it past the leftists to try to take him out.

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      • Dixie says:

        All that you say is true, but we got on a fast train to the lower realm of hell with the Clintons and are now in full blown moral decay. JMHO.

        They made such a good example for our young people, don’tcha know.

        God Bless and protect President Trump.

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  32. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    Wait! What?!!
    One lawyer out of this group alters an email? So, BAM!! We hang a duly elected President?
    What the H*LL was in that one little ole email? That went to this one little ole lawyer?
    I must be the dumbest sh*t on the planet. He alters it “after” having the discussion? What was used in the first place?
    Sounds more like something schiff would make up.

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    • beach lover says:

      and I must be unwitting assistant.

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    • fabrabbit says:

      Charlotte…does feel like we are dumb, doesn’t it? The lies they tell are so transparent but they use tons of smoke to obscure the view and plow ahead. When the smoke clears everyone has moved on to something else.

      But, this Clinesmith stuff is just a feint to discourage and downplay the seriousness of the fraud. We are to think only one tiny piece of evidence was falsified but everything else was legitimate and if the fraudulent email is removed from the evidence, the FISA application still stands. We cannot believe or make assumptions about the fraud or the consequences based upon one tiny incomplete leak.

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  33. Don McAro says:

    Look like the same Demon seed that was used to Create Clinesmith was used to Create Vindman

    I mean that in a physical and mental capacity

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  34. 300 says:

    Let the games begin

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  35. SW Richmond says:

    line-level” lawyer who worked “under FBI Agent Peter Strzok.”

    The one liners write themselves.

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  36. sDee says:

    Do I have this right?
    Feds planted evidence by sending Carter Page into Donald Trump’s campaign claiming he works for Russians.

    They use the planted evidence to get an unlimited FISA warrant to spy on the entire staff and anyone connected to Donald Trump’s campaign

    And the Inspector General investigating says it all “had a proper legal and factual basis”

    This does not ever fix itself. It all needs to be burned to the ground.

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  37. linda4298 says:

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  38. Will J. says:

    Is there anyone in the FBI that WASN’T sleeping with someone else in the FBI??

    What a den of absolute filth.

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  39. TrumpPatriot says:

    While watching smirking clips of the dandy Holmes, it occurs to me something is missing, A paisley bow tie to complete the image.

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  40. Bogeyfree says:

    So I’m confused,

    We know they used the Dossier as evidence for their FISA request, right?

    But they knew the Dossier was not verified right? (Our testimony)

    So how is this just an oversight??

    I can’t wait to hear Barr explain to 62 million Americans that after 3 years of massive, non stop abuse on the President, the FIB and DOJ did everything by the book except for a typo by a low level attorney.

    So maybe when It was reported last week by the WH press, when Barr was in the WH talking with PT this is why they reported it appeared to be an animated conversation.

    I can just hear it, Mr President, I got nothing, pretty much by the book!

    My worst fears are coming to the forefront.

    So is the next leak that the CIA got bad information??

    And for the trifecta, look for a witness limitation agreement IMO between Schumer and McConnell in the Senate Rules that they are going to set in a couple of weeks.

    Good grief!

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  41. Bart says:

    If it’s kevin Clinesmith and he sings, then we have major breakthrough. Clinesmith was one of George Papadopoulos original interrogators in January 2017. He knew about Mifsud. He knew about the setup to Frame George Papadopoulos. This is the beginning of the breakthrough where the house of cards crashes down.

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  42. Eyes Opened says:

    In line with previous DOJ experiences:

    “Carter Page is not an agents of Russia.”

    Oopsy daisy, we made a teensy whoopsie!

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  43. trapper says:

    Sounds like Horowitz is preparing lots of presents for the Christmas stockings of the small group members and coup plotters, and coal for the rest of America. One low lever cite checker gets a stern talking to, and that’s it. Oh, perhaps someone left an empty coffee cup in the break room in 2016, and they’re in trouble too.

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  44. icthematrix says:

    I hope President Trump keeps his powder a bit dry on his interview this morning. Sometimes O feel it’s best to let others release the hounds, but ultimately I trust his timing.

    I try to remember that the IG report is mostly about review of process. His referral of findings went to Barr and Durham for consideration of criminal matters, where the rubber must meet the road.

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  45. tommylotto says:

    This explains Rod Rosenstein’s confidence when testifying to Congress about his signature on a renewal application. He was only relying on the representations being made by a small fries. Kinda defeats the purpose of requiring the certification of a head honcho, but whatever….

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  46. Troublemaker10 says:

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  47. linda4298 says:

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  48. Austin Holdout says:

    Devlin Barrett was the reporter McCabe had Lisa Page leaking to most of the time. Maybe this was too obvious, since the story was also leaked to McCabe’s employer CNN and thats why they changed the by-line.

    Inclusion of “working directly under Peter Strzok to begin with probably means Strzok didn’t leak the info on Clineman. The removal of the Strzok reference probably indicates a threat from Strzok to McCabe “you throw me under the bus, I’ll throw you back”.

    Alternate theory: DOJ leaked to McCabe “go to” sources to make Strzok think McCabe is trying to throw him under the bus, making him consider making a deal before McCabe does.

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  49. Tseg says:

    Hard to believe this caught CNN off guard and they did not spin this like it was just puffery, and seem legitimately concerned as to the implications on the Democrats. They sure don’t seem confident.

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    • Zorro says:

      Seems like they were confident enough to say the alteration didn’t effect the legitimacy of the investigation of Trump and “associates”. That’s the most important take away.

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  50. MO Pragmatist says:

    My biggest take-away from all of these Deep Dives done by Sundance is that there is a very high level of compartmentalization of jobs within government. That is the reason government is so bloated. People have very specific job duties making any attempt to follow any streams (docs, emails, etc.) so complicated as to be nigh on impossible. Time to streamline!

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    • Jimmy R says:

      Long road ahead:

      1. Destroy the crime ring known as the deep state: put them in prison.
      2. Destroy the Democratic Party
      3. Reduce the size of government to Constitutional limits (otherwise a crime ring will reappear in one generation.)
      4. Balance the budget and pay off the debt.

      We have to do all four.

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      • Phil aka Felipe says:

        First things first. We’ve got to get POTUS Trump re-elected because the other four things are not going to happen within the year before the election in Nov. 2020.

        And, yes there is a long road ahead even with a Trump win in 2020.

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