Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman Outs Himself as Source for CIA Whistleblower Complaint (Video)….

HPSCI Ranking Member Devin Nunes questioned NSC official Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman about whether he had shared the contents of the phone call between President Trump and Ukraine President Zelensky with anyone outside the White House.

In responding Vindman stated “two people”, and then named State Dept George Kent, and a person from the intelligence community.  Then things get interesting.  Vindman refused to name the intelligence agency because it would likely expose the CIA “whistle-blower”.

This non-answer makes Alexander Vindman the source for the CIA “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella.

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386 Responses to Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman Outs Himself as Source for CIA Whistleblower Complaint (Video)….

  1. Caius Lowell says:

    What a weasel — Vindman’s a legend in his own mind…

    Liked by 19 people

  2. Rosemaryflower says:

    I have not been watching. I have been praying.
    If I watch, I might break my tv.
    That said. I greatly appreciate the analysis – thank you so much

    Liked by 31 people

  3. The Demon Slick says:

    They don’t know who the whistle blower is, so declared under oath. But they know exactly who not to talk about. Obviously perjury. Stone got raided at gunpoint for that.

    Liked by 34 people

    • Mr e-man says:

      Stone got convicted and may spend the rest of his life in prison. Vindman and Schiff are free to continue a coup against our President.

      How is this allowed to continue?

      Liked by 18 people

      • Marilyn Adams says:

        well, they have actually nothing at all. It’s all gibberish, No evidence of anything! It’s stupidly annoying and wasteful and Obvious what this is really about.

        Liked by 6 people

        • swissik says:

          As I said in the past, there is no whistleblower, it is a made up story and Schifft, Pelosi, Nadler and the rest of these Lilliputians are still in search of one that they can serve up. Vindman suffers a case of delusions of grandeur and he seems to now relish the attention his new status brings him.

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          • donna kovacevic says:

            This Vindman Peder really thinks highly of himself. I would love to take that arrogance on his face and put a metak in his head to wipe it all away. Odjebi pederu.

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      • stringplayer55 says:

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If you look at the voter rolls for D.C., there are about 13 Dems for every one Republican. Voter rolls as of October 31, 2019 identified 381,079 D.C. voters who were registered Democrats vs 29,476 registered Republicans for a ratio of 12.9:1.

        When you have one party dominating D.C., the administrative state (Deep State) will bury issues of Dem corruption and promote innocuous behavior by Republicans as corrupt practices. That is what is going on with the Shi(ff)(t) show and how the Trump/Russia collusion hoax got promoted when it was in fact Dems who colluded with Russians (and Ukrainians, and Brits, and Aussies, and Italians, and …) to influence the 2016 election.

        It’s truly a miracle, an act of God (along with the Dems running the worst candidate for President that they could find) that Donald J. Trump won in 2016.

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        • stringplayer this an excellent reason to break up the DC satrapies and move the various entities closer to where the action is.

          IF and I say IF there is need for a Dept of Agriculture move it close to the center of US agriculture and so on and so forth. No farming in DC. No drilling in DC.

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    • dottygal says:

      Good points! Unbelievable.

      Liked by 3 people

  4. Greg1 says:

    This’ll never be covered or questioned by MSM…….

    Liked by 3 people

    • OmegaManBlue says:

      Correct walked past TV with some MSM stuff on and they said republicans haven’t done anything of note in hearing. Seeing this it tells me it was BS from the talking heads on MSM.

      Liked by 3 people

  5. SOCRATES says:

    LT.COL is a real dork

    Liked by 5 people

  6. Katherine McCoun says:

    excellent. leaker. complainer. coup planner. conspiring against a sitting POTUS on foreign soil.

    based on his opinions. LOVE IT coming out.

    After reading Vindman, Morrison, the wb complaint and the actual phone call transcript pretty obvious. glad its now admitted.

    Go after him HARD

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  7. James Groome says:

    Court Marshall his arse…

    Liked by 4 people

  8. Mr e-man says:

    Damn right it did. It also caught Schiff again in the lie that he doesn’t know the so called whistleblower. Schiff said he had a rule that Vindman couldn’t answer that as it might expose the so called whistleblower. But if he doesn’t know who it is, how could he know it would expose him?

    Other people are going to jail for lying to Congress but Schiff lies to Congress and gets to run the committee to railroad our elected leader. And we can’t seem to do anything about it.

    And this Vindman guy leaks information and doesn’t have to answer who he leaked to. How do we know he didn’t commit a crime if he doesn’t have to tell us who he told? I mean, everyone is so concerned about crimes happening. It should work the same for everyone, not just President Trump.

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  9. doohmax says:

    I wonder if Vindman is allowed to carry one bullet in his breast pocket like Barney Fife.

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  10. The Demon Slick says:

    BOOM! Jordan just hit them on it again.

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    • ILOT says:

      Was Vindman described as “unflappable”? Hid body language says otherwise. I think under real examination by Mr. Ratcliffe the twerp would snap in mere minutes. When Mr. Stewart dropped the “demand” bomb I thought Vindman was going to find a corner and start crying.

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  11. mainecoonman says:

    In the right hand photo he looks like Bradley Mannings brother. As we say in the UK “the one who ate all the pies”.

    Liked by 9 people

  12. US says:

    The U.S. Army is complicit with this insubordination and seditious conspiracy. This is how they reward the President for his support of the military.

    Liked by 14 people

  13. MelH says:

    I’m watching now and mesmerized by Schiff’s eyes when he speaks. Enlarged pupils happen from ingesting certain drugs. Has speed addled his brain?

    Liked by 8 people

  14. Shyster says:

    Nunes consistently does a great job; however, he should have made Vindman answer the “which exact agency” question rather than letting him off the hook. Neither Shiff nor Vindman’s counsel instructed Vindman he could not answer such question. Nunes assumed it and then abandoned the question. Had he specifically asked and then been blocked, Nunes and the Repubs would have a serious talking point and could make a big stink about the fact that identifying the exact agency does not out the whistle leaker in any sense, but rather, the intelligence committee is absolutely at a minimum entitled to know what IC agencies were involved in the dissemination of the POTUS call information. Any denial of such information is a further cover up of potential criminal leaking and wrong doing by the Dems, Schiff and his staffers.

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    • JoeUser says:

      You can bet that the agency in question is watching the testimony closely. It could have been a tell by Nunes, in such that the opportunity was there but he purposely chose not to pursue it. Subtly signalling that agency, and with luck, garnering some inside respect by prospective allies within.

      Never know, there actually might be some that could consider Nunes trustworthy enough to confide, and got the signal. Hope that is the case, as this whole dog-and-pony show is embarrassing, frankly.

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    • topavalley says:

      Nunes did ask what agency and did pursue the issue. He did a great job getting Vindman and Schiff on record. Schiff blocked him from going further. Sundance highlighted the back and forth. Maybe you missed it, It was a very long day.

      Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman Outs Himself as Source for CIA Whistleblower Complaint (Video)….
      Posted on November 19, 2019 by sundance

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/19/lt-col-alexander-vindman-outs-himself-as-source-for-cia-whistleblower-complaint-video/

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  15. TheWanderingStar says:

    Where is the Judge Advocate General in all of this? This seditious piece of trash needs to be taken out to the rubbish pile.

    Liked by 4 people

  16. anthohmy says:

    Schiff is complaining about Trump using “irregular channels” when nothing mandates he use a “regular channel”. Meanwhile, Vindman gets a pass for going outside of regular channels.

    Wish somebody had asked him why he didn’t leak concerns to somebody up the chain of command in the military.

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    • Mr e-man says:

      Vindman testified today he did talk to his superior about his concerns. I guess he didn’t like the answer.

      Actually, this was all planned out. The lawfare group and the Trump resistance fighters were just looking for any opportunity. Vindman knew that and finally supplied one.

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      • Cynthia says:

        He didn’t take his concerns to his superior, but he claims that because Trump is the Commander in Chief, it should be presumed that President Zelensky would understand President Trump’s request as an ORDER . . .? Does that even make sense? 🤔

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      • Spencer's Mom says:

        Not exactly – if i have this right:

        Vindman testified that he talked to Mr. Eisenberg – who is the NSC lawyer – but Mr Eisenberg wasn’t Vindman’s superior. Vindman’s superior was Mr Morrison – not Eisenberg

        In summary: After the call, Vindman claims he went directly to discuss the matter with Mr. Eisenberg. Then he says he went on to perform his “core functions” and then spoke to some “appropriate people” – including some person/s from “ANOTHER AGENCY” – which person/s agency he did not name.

        Some time after that, Mr. Eisenberg – who had also spoken with person/s from ANOTHER AGENCY “circled back” to Vindman and told him not to discuss this matter with anyone else because they had learned “some information” about this call.

        Mr Vindman is being praised BY DEMOCRATS for using irregular channels – but President Trump is criticized BY DEMOCRATS for using irregular channels?

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      • FPCHmom says:

        Vindman was going to surreptitiously change the transcript of the phone call if he could get his hands on it. Make it say what Schiff pretended it did.

        The coup might have succeeded.

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      The only chain of command comrade Vindman was interested in was up through “the resistance” to “control central” ie Big Media. Thus to Ciaramella to Schiff to NBCABCPBSCBSCNN-HQ.

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  17. Curt says:

    This is why incoming presidents remove their predecessors appointments. Obama removed virtually all of Bush’s appointments in a mass firing. SMART! I don’t think the Republican swamp rats were any help for Donald Trump. He should have cleaned out this treacherous State Dept. when he had the opportunity. IF IF he wins re-election he will hopefully do a major house cleaning

    Liked by 6 people

    • Mr e-man says:

      It has become apparent a lot of the reasons the resistance and coup plotters are so successful is that they knew the outsider would not be able to clean house. Trump did not have a bench ready to go to take over all those positions, nor did he totally understand the swamp. They used that to their advantage. The problem now is they are still there. Pences turncoat aide is another example and apparently, she is coming back to the White House?

      Liked by 7 people

      • Zippy says:

        “Trump did not have a bench ready to go to take over all those positions”

        And why? Because so very few who actually KNEW government wanted to work for him out of personal fear of being targeted by the Swamp/Deep State.

        Liked by 1 person

    • Shyster says:

      POTUS really needs to take his team to task. Over and over again, POTUS has been sabotaged from the inside yet apparently no one has assembled a team of loyal insiders who are charged with vetting every single person in the Whitehouse with a risk assessment as to the probability of leaking and obstructing POTUS policy. At this point, his loyal staff is committing one unforced destructive error after another and they need to be called on the carpet for their incompetence. It’s disgusting how these people have repeatedly done little or nothing to protect our POTUS.

      Liked by 10 people

      • margarite1 says:

        I can’t figure out who POTUS can trust other than his family and We The People. For one thing I believe govt entrenched types have a disregard for non-gov people – a snobbery without merit and POTUS style is unique and a lot of bureaucrats can’t handle it. Their fiefdoms are more important to them than restoring the USA to a better functioning government. So POTUS had natural enemies from the beginning and a lot of them are still there…simmering pots…waiting to boil over.

        Liked by 2 people

      • msdonnal says:

        so far it seems like the only ones he can trust is family.

        Liked by 3 people

    • LouisianaTeaRose says:

      Part of the trap, IMHO.

      The trap is needed for the widest and deepest purge.

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  18. trumpsbamagirl says:

    What a self-important twat!!

    “That’s LTC…” 🙄

    Liked by 6 people

  19. hokkoda says:

    I think if Alex were here he would demand we call him “Lieutenant Colonel Vindman”. What an arrogant ass. They’re so used to acting with impunity and zero oversight that even the most basic of questions – who did you talk to about the call – are met with resistance.

    Seems to me, based on what we’ve heard so far, that Durham’s investigation into the origins of the Russia-collusion hoax is going to need to be expanded to include the origins of the Ukraine-aid hoax.

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  20. Alexander Semyon Vindman (né Aleksandr Semenovich Vindman) and his identical twin brother Yevgeny were born to a Jewish family in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Soviet Union. Vindman is loyal to Ukraine not the United States……..These foreigners(bureaucrats) are infiltrating and destroying our Republic from within….It’s been on full display……

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    • Mr e-man says:

      I totally get the feeling this Vindman guy is a Russian spy. He looks and acts very shady.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Peoria Jones says:

      I’m not sure “loyalty” is part of these boys’ vocabulary, but very much appreciate your insightful post. So many houses need cleaning, it’s hard to know where to start.

      Liked by 3 people

    • donna kovacevic says:

      tieonecharter, so true what you said. I am Canadian of serbian decent, however I am more loyal to Serbia than to Canada even though I was not born there, have visited many, many times and there is something in my blood that has great loyalty to Serbia and her people. Now I would never do or think anything bad about Canada except for Justine Trudope, but when it comes down to it, I chose Serbia my ancestors they are my brothers and sisters. One example going to my Orthodox Church Sunday’s and listening to our priest give sermons in serbian puts tears in my eyes, and the choir singing amazing. God Bless PDJT and the American Patriots. What I was trying to say is I see that peder Vindman and know what he is feeling and doing especially since he thinks so highly of himself and despises PDJT figures he can really let America have it, and does not care what the results would be to the people, thinks he is a hero of some sort and may be getting huge $$$ from the Ukraine. That country I don’t trust just read their history. Oh how I would love for President Putin to handle a peder like that, you know what they do or used to do to spies.

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  21. Doppler says:

    I would just observe that anyone in Vindman’s chain of command, up to and including his Commander in Chief, can order him to answer those questions about his interactions with the whistle-blower-hiding-in-Schiff’s-made-up-inquiry-rules.

    The notion that an NSC staffer can pass on made-up statements by the President to someone in the intelligence community “with a need to know” so that that person can file a secret whistleblower complaint with the ICIG in order to start an impeachment inquiry by Congress, and remain hidden from public view under “whistleblower protection” or “national security” cover is ludicrous.

    When these witnesses decline to answer, it is be good lawyerly practice to force the witness and his counsel and Chairman Schiff to state the specific rule, statute, privilege on which the denial is based. “I’m not going to let this proceeding be used as a means to out the Whistleblower’s identity,” is not a legal or constitutional excuse. Since there’s no good basis to refuse to answer, Schiff is exposed as making it up as he goes along. This bogus “secrecy” is a very weak link in these proceedings, and can and should be attacked and attacked. Both in the hearing, and in court proceedings to enforce the subpoenaed testimony, and from the top of the Executive Authority and Commander-in-chief down through the chain of command. Just because they will accuse him of intimidating witnesses doesn’t mean he shouldn’t crush the insubordination. Those who choose to defend Vindman and the whistleblower rather than obey orders are outing themselves as part of the coup.

    Maybe this is all part of the “plan,” but it is tedious in the extreme to listen to.

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  22. Bigly says:

    Had a doc appt this morning. They had NBC on. Omg. I was having a cow. This guy in all his military garb. I was sickened. They kept talking about his pedigree like he was George Patton himself. I was Moving around – then Chuck Todd announced how bad today is going to be for trump. “This could be the end” of Donald trump.

    Suddenly I couldn’t help it. I shouted out “these scum are trying to take down my president!”

    Lol – all 6 in the waiting room all looked at me and smiled – all 6, they all agreed. Then the guy next to me says “damn straight”.

    MAGA. These scum have no idea the rage inside us, we are all pissed as hell. Emotion in the red.

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  23. Ausonius says:

    Vindman (i.e. Windmann in German, i.e. “man of wind” how ironic!) – according to Rush Limbaugh right now – nearly gave the game away by saying that he told two people what he had heard.

    Schiff apparently had to jump in to stop the name of Eric Ciamarella from officially coming out.

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    • swissik says:

      Windmann is a perfectly fine German family name, it isn’t a derogatory term as Rush implied. Yes it could be translated as man of wind, but it would lack any meaning. Still it is rather amusing given the circumstances.

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  24. Koot Katmando says:

    I suspect he would scrum even more if he had to explain how the the whistle blower had a need to know. I hate using the word whistle blower as I think it give the person a title they do no deserve. He volunteered they had a need to know I wonder what the need was and if others would concur.

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  25. Susan James says:

    Great reasoning also the constitution overides statutes codes, rules, ordinances etc. The contitution has more power and is the bottom line than any of the above.

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  26. noeli cannoli says:

    The Republicans should refer to him as “General Vindman,” or better yet, “Generalisimo Vindman.” In third-world countries in Africa and South America, that is the preferred rank for enlisted men who stage a coup and promote themselves.

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  27. SOCRATES says:

    A friend just posed a real relevant question to me.
    When watching the hearing and looking at Schiff ask yourself….WOULD YOU BUY A USED CAR FROM HIM?

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  28. petevinoesq says:

    So you admit you are a rat who spied on the President of the United States and shared that information with another traitor. You violated your oath to support and defend the Constitution by plotting to overthrow the duly elected President of the United States. There is no punishment strong enough that you deserve, you faithless disgrace.

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  29. mylabs5 says:

    Vindman testified that the IC person was a “cleared…need to know”. That’s someone who is involved in the Ukrainian intel effort and has been read into the program…not necessarily Ciamarella (who was off the team and dismissed from the WH) but could be the direct line (whomever Ciamarella reported to). Now either Vindman just committed perjury about Ciamaerella as whom he leaked to or it’s Ciamarella’s direct report.
    So who did Ciamarella report to? Ciamarella may just be the useful idiot used as the messenger to Schiff. How high up in the agency did this go? That may be why Schiff is protecting the “whistleblower”.

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    • JoeUser says:

      I think you just won the internet. Good job

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      • mylabs5 says:

        Thanks. I’ve worked in that situation and know the code words.
        There are legion of Lt. Col and Col’s that have no business being in charge of anything across the IC. It’s all about protecting their positions and rears for future job openings in the public sector. If the American public ever caught wind of what goes on in those programs it’d be open warfare. Oh the stories I could tell….but can’t.
        The IC and Pentagon need an enema. Immediately if not sooner.

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        • Boots says:

          The IC and Pentagon need an enema.
          —-
          The 7.62 treatment would cure it.

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          • mylabs5 says:

            I bet his fingers are on a lot of stuff that has flowed through the NSC to the media (and possibly other foreign government intelligence agencies). He testified that he was bold enough to warn face to face the Pres of the Ukraine (which I personally believe he fabricated as a resume enhancer). So he is no stranger to hubris. But he had access to other data at the NSC as well as Ukraine. And then there’s his brother….
            An internal investigation needs to be deployed immediately to find out just how much damage this traitor has affected our national security. He very well could be the Robert Hansen of the NSC.

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    • TexanInFL says:

      I heard that “cleared..need to know”..if they had need to know, the person he told would have known (thus the term need to know). That crossed eyed little f*&! doesn’t get to decide who has the need to know. He leaked and should be court-martialed.

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      • mylabs5 says:

        He probably will be on an article 92. But for now he’ll be given an office with a desk light and phone in a closet in a basement somewhere. He will be PNG (personal not grata).
        It’s common knowledge who reports to who at the agency. It will take about 30 secs for someone to unmask the actual person. Ciaramella is just an errand boy…village idiot.
        Once that happens it give POTUS the reason to clean house there.

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  30. Katherine McCoun says:

    Vindman being called out in for his purposes for wearing uniform. Not a normal thing – doesn’t wear it for WH meetings, in the normal course of his job/duties

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    • swissik says:

      That really annoyed me too. When I caught a first glimpse of Vindman in uniform I thought it didn’t look natural. He struck me as being rather uncomfortable in it, especially the hat.
      The entire get up was phony. The only people I occasionally see in uniform are active duty personnel from a near by military base.

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  31. T2020 says:

    One word: SCUM

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  32. Dougger says:

    But Finkman previously testified, under oath, that he “had no idea who” the whistleblower was. Sounds like perjury to me.

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  33. Bogeyfree says:

    Just a heads up there is a caller on the Jay Sekulow show waiting to ask why can’t any of the Rep Congressmen ask Vindman if he discussed any of the call with Eric Ciaramella?

    It is recorded and all can hear his reply.

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  34. Katherine McCoun says:

    EXCELLENT by Rep Stewart – pointing out this was a Personal interpretation by Vindman. Made him state that Vindman is interpreting based on military culture but attaching that to other people who have never been in the military culture.

    many have nailed him on going around chain of command.

    Like Stewart R-UT. Now he is nailing him on Biden’s demands

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  35. Good grief, this is like watching a 4 year old try to tell a lie.
    4yr old “Dad, I didn’t break the cookie jar!”
    Dad “Then who did?”
    4yr old – “I think the word is -sibling-”
    Dad “Son, you’re an only child…”

    If this is the class of diplomats which the Obama-Clinton kleptocracy installed, then we REALLY need to clean out the “I’m here because of donations” levels of the Federal Bureaucracy.

    Heck, I’ve passed street hustlers playing 3-cards and cup-and-ball who are better ON THEIR FEET THINKERS than these Senior diplomats holdovers from Clinton-Obama.

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  36. El Torito says:

    Watching. Muting all D questions.

    Liked by 3 people

  37. Katherine McCoun says:

    When will they discuss Congress’s actions and attachments to the strings on the $ re: Ukraine corruption? Wasn’t this a mandate from Congress re foreign fund assistance?

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  38. cbjoasurf says:

    Since Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman is active military and should he be charged with ANY crimes he will be tried BY THE MILITARY under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. If detained he’ll be headed to GITMO.

    As info ANY FEDERAL employee charged could be tried under the Uniform Code of Military Justice based upon the changes made back in 2016.

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  39. This guy is a military officer? oh my gawd what a putz. This guy is about as impressive as a toad and that is why the dims need all the bloviating about how great he is. That’s a tough road to hoe on that one. He is a nerd filled with self righteousness.
    Whatch his face every time someone DOESN’T call him LT COL…body language says it irritates the hell out of him. He wants to blurt out “its LT COL” but he just makes a face instead.
    #notimpressed

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  40. hokkoda says:

    Is the GOP allowed to ask the question anyway? I would ask it, and make Vindman refuse to answer. Again. And again. And again. He is now an active participant in a coverup.

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  41. mark says:

    Did you see Elesie Stephanic hold up her notes during questionig?? She should have written Eric Ciaramella on the back where everyone watching could see and read it. Just my devious mind at work.

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  42. tommylotto says:

    He says the person from the intelligence community to whom he disclosed the contents of the call was appropriately vetted and had a need to know. How do we know that? Are we to accept his opinion on the matter? We need to know who this person is to determine if he actually had a need to know or whether this was an illegal leak in support of a CIA sponsored coup.

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  43. Mike Robinson says:

    “Game, Set, and Match.”

    Still stubbornly trying to deny the President of the United States the common thief’s right to “confront his accuser.”

    Yessiree, here in Amerika, Comrade Trump is to be thrown out of office on the provably false testimony of a secret witness in a kangaroo court, for the high crimes of refusing to follow the foreign policy set by the Deep State, and for daring to suggest criminal prosecution. This government is run by non-elected career bureaucrats, and any elected officials who will not serve at their pleasure will be shown the door …

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  44. berniekopell says:

    Sounded like Vindman said the second person was with the “Office of . . .” before Schifty cut him off. Was the second person with the “Office of . . .the Inspector General” – Atkinson?

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  45. Jim Raclawski says:

    so…. the Ukrainian Government made several official offers to LTC Vidman , to have him become their Minister of Defense??? is that my understanding?… and how were these “overtures” by a foreign government to a WH … NSC staff person …. with exceptional clearance & wide scope access reported… investigated. evaluated…. and what determination/action(s) were pursued??

    WHO is this guy anyway???… some kinda Olie North knock-off??

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  46. Just Beachy says:

    Has anyone asked if Lt Col Vindman wears his uniform to work daily? If not, why has he worn it testifying to congress? Did someone suggest he wear his uniform? If so, who?

    Liked by 3 people

    • swissik says:

      It’s reasonable to think that it was his lawyers. It probably wouldn’t occur to Vindman all by himself. He strikes me as kind of low intelligence.

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      There was a picture I saw after President Volodymyr Zelinskyy was inaugurated, with Ivanka Rick Perry, Peder Vindman (not in uniform) and Eric Ciaramella. The uniform is a mask just for show.

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  47. trapper says:

    This is what a security agency looks like when you populate it with people possessed of the reasoning abilities of seventh graders. They had (still have?) a regular little spy ring going here, making judgments and decisions WAY above their pay grade. They then acted upon those half-baked judgments without orders or instructions or ever having been read into the reasons upon which were based the policies they attempted to sabotage.

    For all these people knew, the agency that must not be named might have been working with the White House to run a sting to catch a ring of double agents within NSA, the agency, and State working for the interests of a foreign government against the interests of the US. Oh …. wait … they just did.

    Arrest them, interrogate them, try them, shoot them.

    Trump Landslide Twenty Twenty

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  48. Sammy Hains says:

    The military MUST always be subordinate to civillian command.
    That is what separates American democracy from a military dictatorship.
    The people vote for a citizen reresentative to set US policy, and the military follows it.
    Vindman has broken the cardinal rule for military. Where is his court martial?

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    • margarite1 says:

      Who would initiate a court martial in this case? Which person?

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      • Beigun says:

        When you are detailed to the NSC, OSD, State, etc., you still have a military chain of command that signs the evaluation report/fitness report. That command would be in charge of any UCMJ proceedings.

        The Army command Vindy is detailed to while at NSC must be the Army Staff at the Pentagon….the policy shop most likely. So this adds to the concerns SD has raised about the Pentagon sitting on their hands while a military Officer is working hand-in-hand with an IC “whistleblower” during an impeachment hearing of their own CINC.

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  49. Sammy Hains says:

    For decades now people have suspected their vote doesn’t matter, that a shadow government, a permanent, inflexible deep bureacracy is what really runs the country, and our elected representatives are mere window-dressing.

    Electing President Trump was first and foremost a test of our government.
    And the government has failed miserably.

    The presidency was established to have broad powers, precisely because he is the person chosen by the people to act on our behalf. And we the people, alone, have the right to judge his actions and policy as president.

    But here was have the bureaucracy trying to remove our duly elected representative for trying to do his job and set US policy. It is now evident that it has been decades since a President has tried to do that.

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  50. Hmmm... says:

    I know “trust the plan” hasn’t been working out well for us but this has been clear for a while. Perhaps “trust that their plan sucks” is a more appropriate description. Once the transcript was released this whole thing was doomed to fail in spectacular fashion and it is happening now.

    We know exactly what happened. A single line of questioning of the whistle blower would collapse this house of cards. There is no good explanation for why the whistle blower complaint does not match the transcript (other than Vindman was planning to change it).

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