Senator Ron Johnson Outlines Concerns With Lt. Col. Vindman Running Rogue Policy Group Against President Trump…

Senator Ron Johnson, in a letter to Devin Nunes, has provided a lengthy outline of his contacts, discussions and perspectives surrounding U.S-Ukraine foreign policy as it relates to the current democrat impeachment narrative. [Cloud Link to Johnson letter]

Senator Johnson, attended the inauguration of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky along with Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), and shared his concerns that National Security Council official Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was running a rogue and independent foreign policy toward Ukraine expressly against the intents of President Trump.

CTH readers will note we identify Vindman as a very sketchy character within the entire construct of the impeachment fiasco.  It is virtually certain Vindman is the primary source for the CIA ‘whistleblower’ dossier (complaint).  Beyond the rogue Vindman foreign policy, there is an even more sketchy affiliated network that surround him. First, here’s the letter:

Lt. Col Alexander Vindman is likely a central character within the entire impeachment hoax.  As Diana West points out, his connective tissue to the U.S. intelligence apparatus and their rogue efforts to remove President Trump cannot be ignored:

[…] The questions begin with Vindman’s activities as a staffer on the president’s National Security Council. Alarming reports indicate Vindman served as a source for the Ukrainian government inside the White House. This news may be padded by his protectors and muted by our general ignorance of the intelligence wars waged against this country, typically masterminded by the Kremlin, but it’s nonetheless deeply concerning.

Further, given the sophisticated penetration talents of the Russian intelligence services, it’s the height of foolhardiness to assume that Vindman’s Ukrainian connections end in Kyiv.

[…] We need more information about Vindman, his relationship to the Ukrainian government, and whatever “advice” he may have offered it, whether “typically communicated” in English or any other language. That’s because, if The New York Times is accurate, Vindman’s loyalties are divided between two governments. At a minimum, this disqualifies Vindman from serving the American people in the sensitive field of national security ever again.  (read more)

Over time it has become clear the first confidential human source for the CIA Ukraine dossier, written by CIA analyst Eric Ciaramella and also known as the “Whistleblower report”, is Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman a Ukraine expert inside the National Security Council on assignment from the Dept of Defense intelligence unit.

Within his deposition the ideology of Lt. Col Vindman is clear. Vindman’s mission focus was/is to shape U.S. policy toward Ukraine (and by extension NATO) regardless of the actual policy view of President Trump.  Within his deposition Vindman admitted to giving countermanding instructions to his Ukraine counterpart two weeks after understanding opposite policy objectives from his commander-in-chief.

During his deposition Lt Col Vindman also admitted -with considerable angst and attempts to deflect from his legal advisors provided by the Dept. of Defense- that he was intentionally usurping the chain of command in an effort to follow his own ideological agenda; and perhaps that of his DoD leadership.

By itself that level of admitted and direct insubordination should be alarming for many reasons; not the least of which is his lineage within the U.S. Military.  Indeed Vindman’s intent and purpose explains why he appeared for his deposition in full military uniform.

When we consider that Lt. Col. Vindman was carrying out what he believed to be his role; and when you overlay his military purpose; and when we accept Vindman was assisting CIA agent Eric Ciaramella in constructing his dossier to remove President Trump; and when we stand back and look at the aggregate interests involved, including Vindman’s divided loyalties toward a foreign power; and when we consider there was ZERO push-back from the ranks of military leadership, specifically the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and when you accept Vindman was simply allowed to return to his post inside the White House – where he remains today; well, the alarming aspect increases in direct proportion to the definition of the word: “coup”.

I would encourage all readers to think long and hard those factual data-points.

CIA Agent Eric Ciaramella never delivered his dossier briefing to the upward chain-of-command within the CIA.  Instead Ciaramella subverted the formal process and transmitted his hearsay complaint, derived from material provided by Vindman, directly to principal officials who could assist in the removal of the President.  Again, often we get caught in the weeds, but think long-and-hard about this impeachment process as it is being discovered.

President Trump released the call transcript from an April 21st conversation with Ukraine President Zelensky.  Reporters noted there was a disconnect between the call transcript and a separate summary of the call sent to reporters in April.

[…]  In response to questions from reporters, the White House said in a Friday statement that “the NSC’s Ukraine expert” prepared the April summary.

“The president continues to push for transparency in light of these baseless accusations and has taken the unprecedented steps to release the transcripts of both phone calls with President Zelensky so that every American can see he did nothing wrong. It is standard operating procedure for the National Security Council to provide readouts of the president’s phone calls with foreign leaders,” deputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley said. “This one was prepared by the NSC’s Ukraine expert,” he added. (link)

That “NSC Ukraine expert” was Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.

For emphasis let me repeat a current fact that is being entirely overlooked.  Despite his admitted usurpation of President Trump policy, Vindman was sent back to his post in the NSC with the full support of the United States Department of Defense.

The onus of action to remove Vindman from the NSC does not lay at the feet of the White House and National Security advisor Robert O’Brien; and upon whose action the removal of Vindman could be positioned as political; the necessary obligation to remove Lt. Col Vindman resides purposefully with the Dept. of Defense.

The Pentagon could easily withdraw Vindman from his position at the National Security Council; yet, it does not…. and it has not.   WHY?

There is a code within the military whereby you never put your leadership into a position of compromise; ie. “never compromise your leadership”.

In this example, President Trump cannot remove Vindman from the White House NSC advisory group due to political ramifications and appearances… The Joint Chiefs certainly recognize this issue; it is the very type of compromise they are trained to remove.  Yet they do nothing to remove the compromise.  They do nothing to assist.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was the majority (#1) source for the material CIA operative Eric Ciaramella used in a collaborative effort to remove President Trump from office.  Let me make this implication crystal clear:

The United States Military appears to be collaborating with the CIA to remove a U.S. President from office.

The Pentagon has done nothing, absolutely nothing, to countermand this implication. The Secretary of Defense has done nothing to remove the conflict that Vindman represents within the National Security Council.  The Joint Chiefs of Staff have done nothing, absolutely nothing, to diminish the appearance of an agenda toward the removal of President Trump.

This is not a complex issue.

No-one in the foreign policy group is going to take any advice or opinion from Vindman.  No-one is going to allow him to engage in material of a sensitive or confidential nature.  Lt. Col. Vindman has compromised himself; and therefore eliminated any usefulness to his prior assignment.  Yet his command does nothing?

This statement by Defense Secretary Mark Esper doesn’t make a lick of sense.

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Monday that an Army officer has no reason to fear retribution for testifying before Congress in the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump.

Esper was asked about potential retribution for Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman during a trip to New York City. The defense secretary said the Pentagon “has protections for whistleblowers” who report waste, fraud or abuse.

He said Vindman or any other whistleblower “shouldn’t have any fear of retaliation.”  (read more)

Keep in mind congressman John Ratcliffe questioned Vindman from the perspective of an Article 92 violation {READ IT}, coupled with an Article 88 violation {READ IT}. President Trump, is Lt. Col Vindman’s superior. President Trump sets the foreign policy.

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. [Article 88, UCMJ]

Two weeks after President Trump has established an agreement with Ukraine President Zelenskyy, and established the policy direction therein, Lt. Col. Vindman is now giving contrary instructions to the Ukranian government. Vindman’s lawyer recognizes where the questioning is going and goes absolutely bananas:

Here’s the Full Transcript

At 9 a.m. Eastern, tomorrow Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, will be testifying publicly in front of the impeachment committee.

This is one set of Questions and Answers that no-one should miss.

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309 Responses to Senator Ron Johnson Outlines Concerns With Lt. Col. Vindman Running Rogue Policy Group Against President Trump…

  1. TarsTarkas says:

    ‘I am better qualified to run foreign policy than the President. Therefore the President should let us set policy’.

    That is the MO of all these Ukraine FP desk jockeys.

    And when you hear them testify, it’s not certain they’re qualified to run a cash register.

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  2. Russ says:

    President Swallwell….love it!

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  3. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    Reading these has become detrimental to my health both physical and emotional. We have to worry about the Army too on top of the corrupt alphabet agencies too? Lord have mercy.

    Liked by 13 people

    • Short answer: Damned RIGHT we have to worry about … read DRAIN … the entire Armed Forces of both the Obama-embedded Operatives and the self-serving Leaders.

      Liked by 10 people

    • lgstarr says:

      You may have been speaking “tongue-in-cheek” but my husband and myself are really feeling the effects of all this (i.e. all the years since Obama and the three years since Trump’s blessed election) and it’s harder and harder at our age (he 60’s, me 70’s) to handle it. Stress is palpable and long-term cliff hanging is having it’s affect (who knows, maybe for Trump as well given the mysteries of his Walter Reed visit today). https://www.chron.com/news/article/Trump-s-health-under-scrutiny-again-after-14844719.php

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      • A Moderate Man says:

        Thank you lgstarr for your post. I know i feel similarity about the current state of affairs within our government. However, I adamantly believe that Democrats just don’t care about our well-being. Their quest for power makes me see how intolerant they are. So, I just go on persevering with my faith in our President.

        None of us will come out unchanged after all of this is over. Heck, we may not even be alive.

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        • donna kovacevic says:

          My prayers are for PDJT may our Lord Jesus Christ keep him and his family healthy and safe. In your Holy Precious Name Jesus I pray Amen. Thank you Lord.

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      • Well, I completely understand your situation. These are indeed trying times. I often cringe and worry about the things making me cringe. However, lately, I’ve been working on a new coping system. I’m proactive in my thinking. I think of the ways this will work out for us, not for the Left. I don’t let the negative, ( I try ) get me down. I think of positives. Chin up. We’ll win Igstarr. We will win. (I’m 60)

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      • not2worryluv says:

        I don’t know how President Trump can handle all the stress.
        He, the First Lady, his children have all been bullied by the Dems and the Left since his election.
        From Day One as President there has been not one iota of cooperation from the Trump Haters.
        I’m ashamed of my fellow Americans.

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        • burginthorn says:

          This so called ‘stress’ is what President Trump lives for. He is not normal, and I don’t mean that in a disparaging way. There is an interview with Donald Trump, Melania and I think the host is Larry King? I’m not American so I’m not 100% sure the show, but the interview is on youtube somewhere. Anyway, in that interview Donald Trump talks about vacations. He talks about how stressful it would be to have to take a vacation. To sit there doing nothing would stress him out. Like I said, men like Donald Trump are not normal. Whereas you, me and most people dream of vacations, men like Donald Trump don’t. They dread them. Right in the thick of it, big money stakes, this is where men like Donald Trump enjoy being. Its what gets them out of bed each day.

          Saving America? Are you kidding me? Donald Trump, now President Trump has NEVER been happier. THIS is living to its fullest. I mean come on already, the guy jumps on twitter and picks fights for crying out loud. Trolling, look what he tweeted just the other day about cry baby ‘its all about the feels’ ex-ambassador what’s her name. Does that seem like the actions of someone who’s stressed?

          President Trump is a machine. He’s been fighting the corrupt scumbags for most of his adult life. Real estate not corrupt? New York not corrupt? Bloody unions, politicians, mafia, scumbags a plenty. Donald Trump LOVES a fight, and LOVES to win. Again, the man is a machine and please believe me he is not stressed in the slightest. He is enjoying every single minute of this battle.

          The stakes don’t get any bigger than this. Its all his dreams come true. Finally a battle worthy of the man. You are extremely blessed to have him.

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      • Dennis Leonard says:

        This is the Amazon Times trying to make up stories again,
        multiple stages months apart [putting words in his mouth]
        he had begun “phase one” of his annual physical exam and that the results had been “very good.”

        ”Trump, 73, made an unscheduled trip to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda on Saturday, later saying on Twitter that he had begun “phase one” of his annual physical exam and that the results had been “very good.”

        It is unusual for a president to do a physical exam in multiple stages months apart, and the circumstances surrounding Trump’s visit renewed questions about the status of his health and the White House’s handling of his medical information, according to several experts.”

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      • sDee says:

        lgstarr…
        We all are at various stages of facing this ugly reality. That is the first step. Please do not let it get to you. Carry on, and pray.

        This evil has plagued mankind since Moses began the exodus. I too, am old – and facing these truths came slow and hard.

        Despite advice to “accept it” from family who knew of this evil long before I did, I set my determination to fight, to open the eyes of friends, family members, and fellow parishioners. I found a way to fight globalism a local level – it’s what I can do.

        I was at my lowest point, accepting that JebHillary would seal our fate to economic slavery. I prayed for forgiveness for letting this happen, for my grandchildren and for guidance. Then I heard Donald Trump declare he was taking on globalism – the root of this evil.

        We have been granted a last chance to restore our nation peacefully, so that our children and grandchildren may live free. Prayer is powerful – we all can seek a way stand in the fight. It may be running for office. Becoming a precinct chair. Speaking up where others are afraid to. Standing up in church to awaken others.

        Should the rule of law and all the Constitutional processes we discuss here fail, freemen will still not surrender. That too is a time for which we must prepare.

        President Trump’s window is short – no time to waste.

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  4. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  5. Bogeyfree says:

    Let this sink in……

    “The United States Military appears to be collaborating with the CIA to remove a U.S. President from office.”

    The man who has done more to support our military than any other President and this is how our Military repays PT.

    Why is PT not making changes within his Joint Chiefs like immediately?

    Is there ANYONE IN DC who is loyal to PT? ANYONE???

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    • JohnCasper says:

      William Shakespeare had it wrong when he said: “The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.”. He should have said, and likely would now: “The first thing we do, let’s kill all the Joint Chiefs”.

      No more coups and no more endless wars in the middle east. A real two-fer.

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    • Redzone says:

      Because McConnell has impeachment over PT’s head. PT needs large majorities in the House and Senate. Give him those, and watch the house cleanings begin!

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    • The pardoned officer this morning on Fox News made an interesting statement. The military by and large is supporting President Trump a lot. But not the generals. Generals per him have to be approved by senate and they start becoming more politicians and less military.

      Also, you have a lot of people in the Pentagon who are paper shufflers, and 90% of Washington D.C. voted for Hillary.

      So I would agree with you that at least some of the paper shufflers and general are in fact against President Trump, but most of the military men and women stand behind him.

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    • His wife and his daughter

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    • MACAULAY says:

      With respect, I disagree with Sundance on this one. If this Vindman was pulled from his current job, the Pravda-like Media would blame Trump no matter who did it. And a new ground for impeachment would ensue.

      Battling the New York Media is a daunting undertaking.

      No use doing it until it is absolutely necessary. Vindman is not worth the fight. He will never be trusted with anything again. That will have to do for now.

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    • NC Patriot says:

      THE MARINES

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  6. JohnCasper says:

    I think we can “put in the grave” any and all notions that being an army officer is any kind of guarantee of any integrity.

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    • California Joe says:

      McMaster’s, Kelly and Mattis were all mistakes just like Sessions!

      Liked by 5 people

      • Shyster says:

        Mattis wasn’t a mistake.he is a great general and was loved by the troops. Whatsmore, when he disagreed with POTUS, he didn’t go public, he acted honorably and resigned. That was him doing the absolute right and honorable thing. Last, and the cherry on this sunday, he wrote a book and refused to besmirch our sitting president. Contrast him to those 2 traitors McMasters and Kelly, both slimy untrustworthy traitors to our president.

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    • annieoakley says:

      Please continue thought on to air force, Navy, Marines. i don’t know which service has the least integrity.

      Liked by 2 people

      • JohnCasper says:

        Admiral Rogers did come from the Navy, but he was exceptional.

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        • Parker Longbaugh says:

          Sundance has the tweet above that questions Pompeo. If it is learned that Pompeo is working against President Trump I will be devastated. I am not kidding. It is my sincere belief the only path forward is that there are Patriots actively doing the right thing.
          If Pompeo has gone to the dark side we are in for truly dangerous times.

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    • Horace says:

      It’s been that way since the end of the Cold War. Ranks above Colonel are political appointments. Here is the reality: we are an empire now. Not only are we an empire, but we skipped the whole early-empire monocultural ruling elite stage (which historically can be stable for a very long time) and went straight to the near-death late-stage multicultural ruling elite stage where fake-American foreigners-with-papers like Vindman and Yovanovitch occupy billets with authority and power and work on behalf of foreign interests. They are BY FAR not the only ones. Washington DC truly is enemy-occupied territory at this point. The American nation is an inconvenience to the contending masters of the Amerikan Empire at this point. We are slated to be replaced with open immigration in our own land at least to the extent that we can never again pose electoral threat to the New York City-Washington DC axis of globalist evil.

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  7. Darrell Michael Richardson says:

    Vindman is part of the “new” guard. Most of the old guard left after obama was elected and he began a “purge” of the military. Vindman represents what libs would call patriots whereas activism is more important then mission or oath. He serves the likes of Kelly et al. He will be weeded out when the opportunity presents itself however for now he serves a purpose therefore the delay. Make no mistake the military is fully on President Trump’s side I know this first hand. Everything serves a purpose. Remember that.

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    • rebelchick says:

      There is probably a character on
      “The Americans” based on Vindman and his brothers too.

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    • mikeyboo says:

      Maybe there is some value in having him in place as he will undoubtedly lead to/identify some of the other vermin.

      Liked by 4 people

      • ann says:

        Identify, then what?

        Mikey, Resist is exempt from codes of conduct, chain of command and criminal punishment . They declared no quarter war citizens power and right to control
        our government.

        Foreign interventions, manipulation, even invasions are not thoroughly examined, debated and Americans are sure not included in their decision making process.

        My trust level is zero regarding what we are told about Ukrainne, and the profiteering by Biden & Kerry , and likely others Inc GOPe, tells me the prior administration had more infamous exploitation and proxy warmongering all set up. Now POTUS & the new Ukrainne President were both elected by citizens desperate to rid our countries of parasitic hosts, whose graft, extortion and weirdo server & spook corruption…

        Both sides are fighting mad! How dare we mess w USAID? How dare us say Mueller ignored the real crimes? How dare we defy Hillary Creep State’s “War w Russia” enyerprise! rise?

        Americans KNOW, and are done a putting up w Resist’s reign of misery and abuse.

        Servers, lies, corrupt side deals, buckets o money, and BAD DESTRUCTIVE foreign policy.

        No more taxes or revolt, let’s DO something s trong! They hurt us, time to hurt back.

        . I’m ashamed of the Beltway, State, DoD, CIA , DoJ, Congress control has to be restored to citizens & administered honestly and w common sense .

        My young adult children & their friends : it’s hard to look them in the face, I feel responsible for the doings of these CREEPS.

        one arrest, not one punishment. I see no evidence we are respected by or have any control over the mid to high level ranks in our government , civilian or military

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        • mikeyboo says:

          Ann, I agree completely with your sentiment. THERE IS STILL THIS:
          This is a battle as old as history. Justice doesn’t always come through “approved” channels. Our election of Donald Trump and his CONTINUED support!! in spite of the forces against him, in spite of the “hearings” signify a force outweighing all the efforts of the media, Academia, and the swamp who thought they had destroyed our ability to think for ourselves.
          The people against their “bettors” is a battle which has raged throughout history.
          This impeachment farce is merely a chapter-which we have already won. It seems to me the Democrats are now searching for a viable way to go home while declaring victory in the face of their obvious defeat.
          Take heart fellow soldier.

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    • L. E. Joiner says:

      Make no mistake the military is fully on President Trump’s side I know this first hand. Everything serves a purpose. Remember that.

      Then why the hell is Vindman still in the White House, and why is he not being brought up on a court martial for disobeying and attempting to subvert a superior officer?

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  8. Bogeyfree says:

    How about a complete and thorough audit of the State Department and US AID funding and maybe it is time to audit the military funding as well.

    It is always about money IMO.

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  9. Bob says:

    Vindman Should turn in his uniform, and his code book, then get as fart from Washington DC as possible.

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  10. Mike says:

    I disagree with SD on this.

    President is Commander in Chief and over DOD. If DOD removes Vindman Dems would say it was by direction of Trump. Perhaps Lawfare tack is to, as in Muellers investigation, create an obstruction charge.

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  11. TradeBait says:

    How is the scum ball still breathing our air?

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  12. “There’s a solid argument to be made that POTUS is increasingly aware Pompeo is strategically handling him.”
    This sentence is very interesting to me. I’ve been feeling very uneasy about the loyalty of Mike Pompeo and where it actually lies.
    Can you please direct me to a link that informs the above opinion?
    I hope that Vindman is unmasked tomorrow in testimony. We all need to pray for that.

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    • JohnCasper says:

      Like Brennan, Pompeo was CIA Director, and that is a red flag.

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    • Lester Smith says:

      Lets all pray lt col verman is trapped like the rat he is. Verman did you know rats like democrats will turn and eat their own when needed. Time is running out the truth is coming to the surface. The rats will go crazy and your are a nice fat rat. Guess what ahole your on the menu.
      Bon Appetit hahahaha

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    • Blinduser says:

      I too am very uneasy reading this about pompeo….I have wondered for awhile if he might have something to do with this coup nonsense…

      I will stand by my previous prediction that they will get PDJT…no one is fighting back…just a few…such a sad day…we elect a POTUS to fight corruption and he gets taken out by the corruption…

      We will reelect him but…its just gonna continue. A nonstop stream of fake news that morons will feed off of

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    • GB Bari says:

      I commented in CTH the other day about Pompeo and the fact that he is the head of the US Dept. of State, where several of these anti-Trump testifiers are coming from.

      It has definitely moderated my previous views towards Pompeo and although I always had some reservations about him because of his Deep State background, I was of the opinion that his support for POTUS has appeared to be solid and genuine since his appointment as SoS.

      Can anyone who headed the CIA ever be considered as being truly “genuine” in any outward display of support for a President who campaigned on fighting endemic corruption within the entrenched, unelected administrative state?

      Unfortunately, the answer is probably more obvious than the 500 lb elephant standing here in the room. Yet I believe we must withhold any severe judgement yet on the Secretary since we almost certainly do NOT know all of the facts. That is the President’s job

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      • Something to ponder:

        Pompeo was confirmed by the Swamp Snake-Pit Senate to head the CIA.

        The Senate would NEVER confirm a non-Swampster to head the CIA
        … and if they would, then WHY?

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        • GB Bari says:

          I dunno for certain…only that there are certainly far more issues at stake then we are likely aware of…
          Pompeo seems to have been a fairly strong advocate for the President’s foreign policies – including the trade reset with China – so far. Unless I’ve missed something.
          Got any conjectures?

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    • madeline says:

      I was never a fan of Pompeo. I mentioned my feeling the other day in the Nikki Haley thead here at the treehouse. One man said to trust Kansas another agreed with me Nikki wants Pompeo’s job hence her comments about Kelly and Tillerson. I still think because the State Dept. is so dirty Pompeo will not last…

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  13. huecowacko says:

    Et tu, Pompeo?

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  14. Public hanging for the traitor!!

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  15. TEWS_Pilot says:

    “There’s a solid argument to be made that POTUS is increasingly aware Pompeo is strategically handling him.”

    No weasel wording, are you saying that Pompeo is now part of the Deep State or at least has joined the coup?

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  16. Coco Mama says:

    Tomorrow, if Vindman is asked about Ciamella, what happens?
    If Shiff prevents the name “Ciamella” from being uttered, isn’t Schiff demonstrating he knows the whistleblower by name?
    Hmmm…

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    • Coast says:

      If I had been in that hearing with the Ambassador, one question I would have asked is “Do you know a person by the name Eric Ciamella? I understand he has some dealings with Ukraine and Biden”.
      After all….how would I know who the whistleblower is….even Adam Schiff says he doesn’t even know (s).

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        I watched Laura Ingraham for about 15 minutes Alan Dershowitz was on and they were talking about the questioning of Vindman, Alan pissed me right off, he said that because Vindman was a highly respected, decorated blah blah not to be harsh on him with the questioning. Thank God the other man was also a lawyer by the name of Barr he disagreed with Alan and said just because he was military does not mean he has or had good intentions. WTF is wrong with Dershowitz here he is peddling a new book about his not being guilty regarding Epstein, then with the same breath said he would like for his lawyer defending him to be fighting for him against this girl that has come out and said AD had sex with her. I was so ticked with him didn’t hear what the name of the book was and who cares. For once I agreed with Laura when she had to tell AD to stop, stop, stop talking.

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    • jus wundrin says:

      Ive been waiting for ANY of the repubs to ask that very legitimate question. Watching schifftys eyes completely bug right out of his head during the hearing would be a plus!

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  17. drdeb says:

    This comment by Sundance has me quite concerned: “The United States Military appears to be collaborating with the CIA to remove a U.S. President from office.”

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  18. SR says:

    Somehow these people come from Pence staff recommendation. Pence was involved in Flynn issue too. I can be wrong but I think Pence team is problematic.

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  19. JohnCasper says:

    There was a time, long ago, when the Joint Chiefs had both intelligence and integrity.

    Indochina is devoid of decisive military objectives and the allocation of more than token US armed forces in Indochina would be a serious diversion of limited US capabilities.
    – Joint Chiefs of Staff, 26 May 1954.

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  20. WES says:

    O.K. which department leaks to NBC?

    Let’s see:
    CIA = NYTs
    FBI = WPost
    State = ???

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  21. jusflipthescript says:

    This really sucks😳, I just dont understand why cant we get this guy Vindman out of the White House and remove people that are suspects of this coup? 🤔 I’m not saying arrest but just remove..smh!

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  22. Boots says:

    BATF National Firearms Act Registry indicates approximately 400,000 registered machine guns in civilian hands. More than half those owners know how to use them offensively courtesy of the US military. Most all owners maintain ammunition counts in the tens of thousands of rounds. Some in the hundreds of thousands. And a few known to me in the high hundreds of thousands.

    Nothing like a well oiled and timed belt fed spewing lead where you point it…..

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  23. Mike in a Truck says:

    What a pompous ass.Officers like Vindman is why fragging became the preferred way to get rid of charlatans in uniform in Vietnam.

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  24. FilthySanchez03 says:

    This clown is in the army. No matter what his assignment is he has a senior officer that he reports to. When is THAT clown going to put him at the position of attention and tell him he is being charged with Article 94 and have his ass confined?

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  25. L4grasshopper says:

    I read Sen Johnson’s long note to Nunes carefully. I came away with the following assessments:

    1. Trump really does have a different “attitude” toward Ukraine that most everyone else, including Johnson.

    2. Trump’s attitude is so different that the bureaucracy seems to either ignore his direction, or even at times flat disobey. Vindman’s actions reflect this.

    3. But at the same time, it is clear from everything Johnson recalled in meetings and phone calls between May and September that Trump’s focus on Ukraine corruption was the probable involvement of them in the 2016 election — and NOT trying to “get” Biden. If there was any quid sought for Ukrainian cooperation to get aid, it was for help in the overall Ukrainian involvement in 2016 — and NOT Biden (and to be clear…there is no evidence at all that Ukraine was ever told that they get aid only if they specifically do anything.)

    4. Diplomacy with any country — and especially a bad actor like Ukraine — is always going to be messy. Johnson’s recollection of just his bit part in the relationship illustrates how fluid and complex the “dance” can be on many levels.

    Conclusion: I think Johnson’s recollection of his numerous interfaces with Ukraine and US players in the relationship firmly support the fact that at no time did Trump condition any aid to Ukraine for any specific “quo” other than assistance in unraveling the previous Ukrainian government’s involvement in the 2016 elections.

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    • I think of it this way. PDJT considers that he was elected to run the USA – as CEO. One of his concerns, as CEO, is the bottom line. It helps to explain why he is always trying to save us $$. I have read that Ukraine is the center of the money laundering operation that takes foreign aid, etc. and launders it back to the corrupt cabal as donations, board seats, etc. So for PDJT what he is seeing is certain members of congress engaged in an enormous embezzlement scheme and the embezzled money is washed through Ukraine. IMO that is why he treats Ukraine differently.

      Remember when crooked was SoS? I believe it was $6 billion (with a b) that was unaccounted for during her tenure. Any doubts where it went?

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      • AloftWalt says:

        And corrupt politicians in BOTH Parties have been on the take by this money laundering scheme. Hence the tax payer gravy train to becoming a member of the politician millionaires club. Draining the swamp exposes all of the players on both sides. They will try to stop PJDT at any cost and may likely succeed which will also likely lead to another civil war.

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    • WSB says:

      One, why is any senator involved with foreign policy, and two…Johnson sounds like he is trying to justify or color his his own guilt. Something is not right with that letter.

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      Any person over the age of 30 I say should know the history and the corruption in the Ukraine. It is well noted for decades, no surprise there. Btw Crimea always belonged to Russia just like Kosovo to the Serbs and their people, regardless what the bloody, corrupt west yes US as well, wants one to believe.

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    • fabrabbit says:

      L4grasshopper: thanks for referencing the content of the article! I look at this letter as putting Vindman “on notice” and providing testimony for PDJT even though Republicans cannot call any of their own witnesses. You know everyone in Washington will have read it before Tuesday’s hearings.

      Your #2: PDJT having a different attitude on Ukraine than others is why we elected him. He’s making it very clear he is not going to tolerate any crap from them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Zelensky was elected to root out corruption (everyone cheers, congratulates each other) but I am sure PDJT is thinking how many times have we heard stories like this? Everyone believes it until they don’t, and everyone is screaming about corruption once again. PDJT is saying “prove it!”

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  26. Doppler says:

    So it “appears” that the President is being betrayed by his joint chiefs, his Secretary of State, the DOJ, FBI, NSC, etc., etc. The Dems and deep state would be fools not to pull out all the stops to achieve impeachment now!. /snark/

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    • Rhoda R says:

      What kind of proof – or even indications – do you have that President Trump is being betrayed by his SOS? All I’ve heard are vague assertions and airy hand waving. Is this more of the deep state’s attempts to ‘dirty’ up people who support the President?

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  27. Zabadak says:

    I always thought Pompeo was deep state. After he handed the CIA over to Haspel with his blessings, he has done nothing to rein in the State Dept which is knee deep in all of this. Enemies everywhere.

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  28. 1riot1ranger says:

    I think that’s why PDJT is having meetings at the Residence. A sort of protest, if you will, to having to associate with people that are trying to sabotage him. Interesting dynamic. Wonder how long it will last.

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  29. trapper says:

    Interesting that this all comes out of American activity related to Ukraine, a country to the East of Poland with a long and complicated history with Russia going back centuries. Our American leaders continue to allow themselves to get suckered into every European dispute, the messes people flee here to get away from. Will we never learn?

    Over there
    Over there
    I don’t care
    We aren’t going
    Over there.

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  30. burnett044 says:

    Isolate the president is the goal …..military leader ship does not make one immune to corruption..
    power corrupts…
    you can not have a Military Industrial Complex with out the military………

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  31. jrapdx says:

    I’m betting the questioning of Vindman tomorrow is going to be incendiary. The Republicans on hand, Jordan, Zeldin, Nunes, etc., will be prepared to grill the Lt. Col about his attempts to undermine the President and policies. Furthermore I won’t be surprised to learn Vindman was directly linked to the “whistleblower” coming forward, coordinating with Schiff the whole time.

    Then again the “witness” may very well just chicken out. Like the others he’ll have to admit having no direct info re: PT’s conversations with Zelensky, it’s all a bunch of noise that will be deflated. I guess we’ll soon find out.

    Unless of course Herr Schiff makes up some more rules to keep the lid on the cesspool and Republicans from peering in…

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Opening question to this guy:

      “When did you have a conversation with Eric Ciaramello about Trump’s conversation with Zelensky”?

      Possible 2 birds with one stone: puts Vindman in a bind, and forces Schiff’s hand — if Schiff objects on basis of whistleblower protection, he confirms he lied about not knowing him.

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    • Your last sentence is imho what the script will be.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      I’d like to see Vindman asked to describe what he believes is “proper” US policy towards Ukraine. Senator Johnson says Vindman advocated that the US separate its relations with Ukraine from any sort of geopolitical struggle with Russia. If so, why was Vindman so eager for the US to give Ukraine defensive weapons? –as if repelling Russia’s proxy forces in the civil war isn’t part of the geopolitical struggle with Russia.

      It appears that Vindman wants to use the US to pursue Ukraine’s interests as an end in itself; pursuing US interests is subordinate or undesirable. Trump wants clear benefits to the US before doling out US resources to benefit others. There are billions of dollars at stake in keeping the US as the world’s patsy. Thus we have “impeachment” hearings over a President’s demand that foreign aid recipients stop stealing the aid.

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      • WSB says:

        Ukraine became the largest laundromat of US Taxpayer dollars in the world. Just take one look at flight logs of Congress members. Just like going to see tellers at a foreign bank.

        And Yovanovich/Ivonovich ( Russians have about four different names) was the teller.

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      • jrapdx says:

        But of course US policy toward Ukraine before PT was elected wasn’t exactly coherent or in the best interests of Americans or Ukrainians. Mainly US policy was all about maintaining corruption for the sake of enriching crooked US and Ukraine politicians. A mutual crime syndicate as it were.

        Now they’re out to get PT because he’s serious about putting an end to that nonsense. So in opposing Trump we can only conclude Vindman is interested in continuing the corruption no matter the damage to both countries.

        That’s a position I for one can’t support, and neither will the vocal House Republicans abide that BS. The impeachment farce is going to blow up in the faces of Vindman and Democrat cronies as their lies can’t be sustained as much as Schiff has gone overboard to conduct the inquisition in secret.

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  32. twingirls (@twingirls49) says:

    Alexander Vindmans brother…Leonid Simon Vindman, Founder and Managing Partner, Tungsten Capital Advisors, has approximately thirty years of experience in the financial markets. During the past twenty five years, he has been focusing predominantly on Central Eastern Europe, Russia and Central Asia where he completed some of the biggest investment and advisory transactions in the region. He also completed transactions in the Middle East, and traveled extensively in Asia and Africa.
    Do you think he ever ran into George Soros?

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  33. Beverly says:

    The Leftwingers are going to roll out a new wave of smears and character assassinations against Jim Jordan this week, watch and see. They’ve tried it before, but they are the zombies of our national politics: they never stop coming.

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  34. JohnCasper says:

    America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves (or let the FBI, DOJ, CIA, Stated Department and Pentagon do it).
    – Abraham Lincoln

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  35. Mortimer says:

    Trump needs to reassign Vindman as his Presidential Food Tester.

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  36. Katherine McCoun says:

    This twitter thread just brought my attention to a part of the transcript I had read but not paid attention to

    Just went back and read it for myself
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/25/transcript-of-call-between-president-trump-and-president-zelenskyy/

    Yep – Belinsky asking President Trump for info on the ambassador for investigations they are doing in Ukraine!!! Wow! Maybe this has been pointed out before and I just missed it.

    Trillions at stake – what is her role in the billions that have gone to Ukraine and how much has she made?

    So much is centered in Ukraine – corruption by the swamp and the attempted coups, etc. So much to find.

    Did they pull the fire alarm because of Bidens, Crowdstrike or the ambassador is being investigated and they learn that President Trump already knew about her corruption and tipped Zelinsky/Ukraine off about it?

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  37. Katherine McCoun says:

    SD – I was thinking along the same lines, although not nearly as well thought out, informed and detailed as you posted, of course! 🙂
    When I read Morrison’s deposition Sat pm in conjunction with Vindman’s, re read the wb/leaker’s claims/complaint, thought about the Schiff’s narrative/talking points … Yep, seems Vindman’s “concerns” were told to the WB and the complaint was developed after careful consultations and top level meetings which would have included Schiff and staff and their special Ukraine trip.

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  38. Shyster says:

    Senator Johnson, a true American patriot. The story his letter tells is of complete exoneration of our POTUS!

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  39. Laurie Walker says:

    WHY did Germany absolutely refuse to supply Ukraine with lethal weapons?

    Could it be because of the gas pipelines from Russia, or maybe they’re worried corrupt Ukraine might try to start WWIII with them?

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    • ezgoer says:

      BINGO. Trump knows Germany will sell out the USA and NATO once they are exclusively dependent on the Russian gas pipeline to heat their homes in the freezing winter.

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  40. It is worrisome that Pompeo is letting all of these never Trumpers testify against Trump and then go right back to work. Wondering what it means to handle Trump? Does it mean he stays friendly and acts supportive so that the traitors can go about their business unhindered? There don’t seem to be any friends of Trump in DC other than his family.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Whatever SD means by “handle”, it most certainly is not positive or complimentary.

      I would say “handle” probably means subtly manipulate at minimum, or coerce at the worst.

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  41. mike diamond says:

    Joe biden,and his son made millions in Ukraine demo rats are covering for him,this whole impeachment deal is a scam! It’s right out of the sal,alansky , book called rules for radicals!

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  42. mike diamond says:

    The Truth will shine bright ! Pray,and Pray often !

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  43. hokkoda says:

    We cannot discount that the military has been ordered, by Trump, to lay off Vindman. This would track to a similar strategy used during the Mueller probe…don’t take steps that put gas on the fire. Firing Comey led to Mueller. They can isolate and quarantine Vindman in the White House, and it lets them keep a close eye on him.

    The interesting part about Johnson’s letter is towards the end where he points out that the Executive and Legislative branches had worked out the thornier pieces of Ukraine aid funds. But, a bunch of punk (my word) junior employees illicitly used a whistleblower complaint for political purposes. Johnson’s letter also shows the complexity of how these talks took place with Zelensky with many participants working the aid from many angles, and Trump at the top saying what he has said since before his election: foreign aid is wasted on corrupt ventures that soak our treasury for no gain.

    Trump says, “We’re schmucks!” If you watch the testimony by Taylor, Kent, etc, you can see why. Our diplomatic core is staffed by people who are long in credentials and short on intelligence and skill.

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    • mikeyboo says:

      Our diplomatic core is staffed by people who are long in credentials and short on intelligence and skill.AND INTEGRITY?

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      • mikeyboo says:

        And humility. As in, I little-twerp-Vindeman, and I, never-mind-the-President, Marie Yovanovich each of us scorned by Pres Trump AND Pres Zelinsky, hereby appoint ourselves co-Presidents and Co- Commanders in Chief. We will now “humbly” accept the applause of a grateful nation. Thank you.

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      • hokkoda says:

        Spend any time around Government Party employees and Progressives, and you learn that they think Executive Branch employees and Departments are a separate branch of government intended to investigate and thwart the President unless he parrots their desired policies. Their favorite dodge? “We work for the taxpayers.” It eliminates ALL accountability because the taxpayers cannot fire them. The President can, but if he does, that’s treason / obstruction of justice / pick your fake crime.

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    • This: “Our diplomatic core is staffed with people who are long on credentials and short on intelligence and skill.”

      If applied to overall USG hiring efforts since shortly after 9/11, truer words have never been spoken. Highly educated (actually just possessors of numerous degrees) but possessing little to no idea how to truly apply it in the real world. Sadly, many of those post 9/11 hires are now in leadership (some senior) positions.

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  44. jus wundrin says:

    Dear Sen Johnson,

    Im glad to see that we, and many others, are on the same page as to when the get Trump meme started: the second the 2016 election results came in. Im also happy that you have provided first hand accounts that directly dispute what the dims, and their media allies have been feeding the masses over that last few months. I am truly grateful that you have stepped forward.

    I would also like to ask a favor of you….if you have the time. Could you please walk down the hall to Sen barrasso, and Sen enzis offices, and slap those knuckleheads upside the head, and tell them to get their heads out of ol’ mcconnells posterior and get on the right side of things for once?

    170,000 of my fellow WY patriots would greatly appreciate that!

    jus

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  45. Elric VIII says:

    Anyone born in a foreign country is prohibited from running from President of the United States. The same rule should apply for the military: Anyone born in a foreign country is prohibited from serving in the United States Armed Forces. One possible exception may be something like the French Foreign Legion. Foreign-born soldiers officered by United States-born officers.

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    • I notice that many State Department employees were not born in the USA either. I’m wondering how many US government employees are foreign born, as a percentage. It seems DC is a magnet for people who want an easy paycheck and great retirement and where they have little chance of being fired no matter how lazy, dishonest or disloyal they are.
      I used to spend a lot of time around public sector employees and their benefit plans. The mindset of many is thus.

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      • Elric VIII says:

        I have been an employee of the U.S. Military, the U.S. Government, and state government. Never for more than a few years at a time. And there’s a reason for that. I do not agree with their “mindset.” I do reminisce about my years as a paratrooper with a certain fondness, but government employment in general is a real drag.

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        • Despicable Me says:

          I was in government service for several decades and can attest that it can be a stultifying and maddening experience. At best you find yourself with at most one or two trusted colleagues who think similarly and with whom you can work and carry on your mission effectively in spite of the obstacles (which are usually people rather than policy) and with minimal resistance from those to whom work is anathema. At worst you can find yourself completely alone and kicking against the goads.

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          • Elric VIII says:

            Aside from my military service, that’s why I walked away from every other government job.

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            • Despicable Me says:

              I chose to stay and fight the fight but certainly don’t judge those who chose to fight the fight elsewhere because it would otherwise take a huge personal toll. I’ve watched a number of competent good and decent folks walk away in disgust and/or disillusionment throughout my years of service. I have to fight to keep from wondering if things would be so dire now if some of those folks had hung around longer. I din’t think that way though because we can’t change the past and can only deal with the present reality.

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  46. Raised on Reagan says:

    Our President needs a dog.

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  47. JohnCasper says:

    All these people, like the LTC, the CIA “whistle blower”, the former Ambassador, etc, are like seemingly separate plants, but they are not as they all have the same root system, all coming out of the very same one root bulb.

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  48. John says:

    I just now noticed Rick Perry (recently resigned cabinet secretary) in that picture. Never heard a real reason for his resignation. Could Rick have had his snout in the “money trough” originating in the Ukraine too?

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  49. Heika says:

    POMPEO is ‘handling President Trump’.

    I said this from the start.
    Swamp stench.

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    • Eric says:

      With everything President Trump has had to fight against since 2015…both parties…the “media”…Clintons…Bushes…Big Tech…Wall Street…China…Deep State…etc… It’s amazing to me how many on our side underestimate the man.

      He knows what he’s doing. Why do I have faith? He’s earned my trust.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      I doubt it. The President has been in the saddle pretty much from the very beginning. And if Pompeo really IS trying to ‘handle’ the President then I suspect he won’t be around very much longer either. President Trump has the experience, intelligence, training and force of mind that would make ‘handling’ him damn near impossible. I’ll trust his plan.

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  50. Muthaucker says:

    It is significant that the State Dept is the origin of this latest attempt to remove DJT and Pompeo is nowhere to be found.

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