A Seditious Conspiracy – Lt. Col. Vindman, CIA “Whistleblower” Source #1, Shaped False Summary of April Trump-Zelensky Phone Call…

Amid increased calls from House Republicans to force the testimony of the CIA “whistleblower”, today the Washington Post, the primary outlet for CIA misinformation and public relations, began shaping the “whistle-blower” as a hero.

Because the overall effort involves multiple parts of the deep state apparatus, to see through the construction it is important to note which media outlet holds equity for agency talking points within the coup.  The Washington Post is primary PR for the CIA and IC writ large. The New York Times is primary PR for the FBI; and CNN is primary PR for the State Dept.  This pattern has been consistent throughout.

Over time it has become clear the first confidential human source for the CIA Ukraine dossier, written by CIA analyst Eric Ciaramella and also known as the “Whistleblower report”, is Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman a Ukraine expert inside the National Security Council on assignment from the Dept of Defense intelligence unit.

Within his deposition the ideology of Lt. Col Vindman is clear. Vindman’s mission focus was/is to shape U.S. policy toward Ukraine (and by extension NATO) regardless of the actual policy view of President Trump.  Within his deposition Vindman admitted to giving countermanding instructions to his Ukraine counterpart two weeks after understanding opposite policy objectives from his commander-in-chief.

During his deposition Lt Col Vindman also admitted -with considerable angst and attempts to deflect from his legal advisors provided by the Dept. of Defense- that he was intentionally usurping the chain of command in an effort to follow his own ideological agenda; and perhaps that of his DoD leadership.

By itself that level of admitted and direct insubordination should be alarming for many reasons; not the least of which is his lineage within the U.S. Military.  Indeed Vindman’s intent and purpose explains why he appeared for his deposition in full military uniform.

When we consider that Lt. Col. Vindman was carrying out what he believed to be his role; and when you overlay his military purpose; and when we accept Vindman was assisting CIA agent Eric Ciaramella in constructing his dossier to remove President Trump; and when we stand back and look at the aggregate interests involved; and when we consider there was ZERO push-back from the ranks of military leadership, specifically the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and when you accept Vindman was simply allowed to return to his post inside the White House – where he remains today; well, the alarming aspect increases in direct proportion to the definition of the word: “coup”.

I would encourage all readers to think long and hard those factual data-points.

CIA Agent Eric Ciaramella never delivered his dossier briefing to the upward chain-of-command within the CIA.  Instead Ciaramella subverted the formal process and transmitted his hearsay complaint, derived from material provided by Vindman, directly to principal officials who could assist in the removal of the President.  Again, often we get caught in the weeds, but think long-and-hard about this impeachment process as it is being discovered.

Yesterday President Trump released the call transcript from an April 21st conversation with Ukraine President Zelensky.  Reporters noted there was a disconnect between the call transcript and a separate summary of the call sent to reporters in April.

[…]  In response to questions from reporters, the White House said in a Friday statement that “the NSC’s Ukraine expert” prepared the April summary.

“The president continues to push for transparency in light of these baseless accusations and has taken the unprecedented steps to release the transcripts of both phone calls with President Zelensky so that every American can see he did nothing wrong. It is standard operating procedure for the National Security Council to provide readouts of the president’s phone calls with foreign leaders,” deputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley said. “This one was prepared by the NSC’s Ukraine expert,” he added. (link)

That “NSC Ukraine expert” was Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.

For emphasis let me repeat a current fact that is being entirely overlooked.  Despite his admitted usurpation of President Trump policy, Vindman was sent back to his post in the NSC with the full support of the United States Department of Defense.

The onus of action to remove Vindman from the NSC does not just lay simply at the feet of the White House and National Security advisor Robert O’Brien; and upon whose action the removal of Vindman could be positioned as political; the necessary, albeit difficult or perhaps challenging, obligation to remove Lt. Col Vindman also resides purposefully with the Dept. of Defense.

The Pentagon could easily withdraw Vindman from his position at the National Security Council; yet, it does not…. and it has not.   WHY?

There is a code within the military whereby you never put your leadership into a position of compromise; ie. “never compromise your leadership”.  In this example, President Trump cannot remove Vindman from the White House NSC advisory group due to political ramifications and appearances… The Joint Chiefs certainly recognize this issue; it is the very type of compromise they are trained to remove.  Yet they do nothing to remove the compromise.  They do nothing to assist.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was the majority (#1) source for the material CIA operative Eric Ciaramella used in a collaborative effort to remove President Trump from office.  Let me make this implication crystal clear:

The United States Military is collaborating with the CIA to remove a U.S. President from office.

Do you see the issue now?

The Pentagon has done nothing, absolutely nothing, to countermand this implication/reality.  The Joint Chiefs of Staff have done nothing, absolutely nothing, to diminish the appearance of, nor deconstruct the agenda toward, the removal of President Trump.

Mr. President, do I have your attention?

On Tuesday, Nov. 19th, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman is scheduled to appear in an intentionally shortened morning congressional session along with his ally Jennifer Williams, an aide to Vice President Mike Pence.

In the afternoon, Kurt D. Volker, the former United States special envoy to Ukraine, and Timothy Morrison, a Europe and Russia expert for the National Security Council will appear.

The timing, construct and purposeful design of Vindman’s appearance next week is being intentionally buried within the totality of the narrative that surrounds the impeachment effort.  Perhaps, just perhaps, someone reading this will start to put the purposefully obfuscated pieces of the coup puzzle together and act quickly….

~ REFERENCE MATERIAL ~

Beyond the debate about the optics of the “coup“, within the testimony of Lt. Col Vindman, the witness readily admits to understanding the officially established policy of the President of The United States (an agreement between President Trump and President Zelenskyy), and stunningly admits that two weeks later he was giving countermanding instructions to his Ukrainian counterpart to ignore President Trump’s policies.

The coup against President Donald Trump went from soft, to hard. Consider…

The testimony from Lt. Col. Vindman is available here. [SCRIBD pdf below]

Borrowing from Roscoe B Davis, here are some highlights:

Representative John Ratcliffe begins deconstructing Lt. Col Vindman, while his arrogant attorneys begin trying to interfere with the questioning.

This next section is very interesting, and very important.

Congressman John Ratcliffe begins questioning Vindman from the perspective of an Article 92 violation {READ IT}, coupled with an Article 88 violation {READ IT}. President Trump, is Lt. Col Vindman’s superior. President Trump sets the foreign policy.

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. [Article 88, UCMJ]

Two weeks after President Trump has established an agreement with Ukraine President Zelenskyy, and established the policy direction therein, Lt. Col. Vindman is now giving contrary instructions to the Ukranian government. Vindman’s lawyer recognizes where the questioning is going and goes absolutely bananas:

Here’s the Full Transcript:

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A reminder from the CIA “whistleblower” attorney. January 30th, 2017, ten days after President Trump’s inauguration: the “coup has started”

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519 Responses to A Seditious Conspiracy – Lt. Col. Vindman, CIA “Whistleblower” Source #1, Shaped False Summary of April Trump-Zelensky Phone Call…

  1. Terra says:

    @sundance the new info about the 1st call readout being diff from transcript….might this have been the reason when Vindman said he wanted to make changes to the second call be the reason?? And the call being kept in a different place..they have to know when someone tries to access these call transcripts?? Maybe busted him before he even went to his brother and the other lawyer and WB?? This feels like a leak catch rolled up in this!

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    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      Terra,
      Well surmised. Someone knew the Colonel was a bad apple.

      This Clown is insubordinate, at best, and seditious, in a more accurate light.

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      • swissik says:

        With people like this colonel in positions where he makes judgement calls, I am seriously concerned about our military!

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        • Don’t be concerned about Vindman…His ass is going to fry. Be especially careful of the JCOS!!!!!!!!!

          NOTE: (JSOS) Joint Chiefs of Staff!!!!

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          • Lester Smith says:

            When this house of cards collapses lt Col Febman will be one of the first human sacrifice s. He is nothing more than a tool of evil. This lying sos I would say pos but he is way to fat.He and the rest of these nogoodskies will be loosing a lot of weight when their are sentenced and jailed. If done of them have trials then this country is lost for good.

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    • Don Axford says:

      Beware of the republican senate voting to remove trump and install their insider Pence who will play by the old rules under their control. See the article in American Thinker on the past failure of the Democrats in the senate to vote to impeach Clinton which would have given the Democrats 10 years with Gore as president and no Bush.
      Don’t ever think the Rino’s haven’t learned from this. See the link for the article
      https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/11/how_the_democrats_bungled_impeachment_and_prevented_al_gore_from_becoming_a_10year_president.html

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    • NC Patriot says:

      RIGHT—-And we initially heard he was being removed to elsewhere—-very quickly changed to him rotating out in July 2020 when his tour ended.

      That could be bad optics—-don’t react VSG to give them another gripe. But you can bet he will be closely watched, and kept away from other phone calls etc.
      t do not believe that it indicates the “military” is in on the coup. (I am sure a few don’t like POTUS—–but POTUS also has some strong military giving him physical protection 24/7 Else he would have been JFK’d by now) IMO

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  2. johneb18 says:

    Send in the Marines.

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  3. islandpalmtrees says:

    It looks like Eric Ciaramella, Lt. Col Vindman and Peter and Peter Strzok are all CIA. And of course working for John Brennan, when he was director. Schiff is as we all know, Chairmen of the IC oversight committee.

    The Pajama Boy Whistleblower Revealed
    Oct 31, 2019

    “Fearing their anonymous witness could be exposed, Democrats this week blocked Republicans from asking more questions about him and intend to redact his name from all deposition transcripts.” Too late. Everybody knows who he is. And then Vindman… Vindman is from the same pedigree. They’re all part of the CIA or the John Brennan bunch. John Brennan, Obama’s CIA director, is the puppet master for all of this — and these guys are feeling their oats now. They came out, they sat down, and they had an appearance at the National Press Club last night that C-SPAN televised.”

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/10/31/the-whistleblower-revealed/

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Should be:
      It looks like Eric Ciaramella, Lt. Col Vindman and Peter Strzok are all CIA. And of course working for John Brennan, when he was director. Schiff is as we all know, Chairmen of the IC oversight committee.

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    • Corte says:

      Instead Ciaramella subverted the formal process and transmitted his hearsay complaint, derived from material provided by Vindman, directly to principal officials

      The hearsay “complaint” –> a letter to congressmen– is not the complaint form/s filed with Atkinson. Recall Atkinson’s replying about the missing form “No Hearsay” language not on the one the WB filed. There is no public knowledge about the date of these forms (could they be after the letter complaint) and there is no public urging to get them. This is a large mystery.

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    • Russell Steadman says:

      Why is Brennan still walking a free man?. At the very least he should be considered a flight risk

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    • old white guy says:

      I am not sure what many think treason is but I see it right here in the actions of each and everyone of these people.

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      • drlou007 says:

        There is no other word for what Eric Ciaramella, Brennen, Vindman, Comey, McCabe, Stroch, Page and all the “National Security” people did including those in the Obama White House and the DOJ/NSD. Try them and then hang them by their necks until dead.

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    • Templewind says:

      Yanokovitch also seems to have been recruited by the CIA at a very young age.

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  4. Here a coup….there a coup….everywhere a coup-coup
    “Leonid Vindman, Iran & Libya Smuggler” > George Webb YouTube
    three brothers, all CIA traitors

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Hope this helps.

      Look at the parts

      Eric Ciaramella, Lt. Col Vindman from rushlimbaugh.com above – CIA.

      Sundance’s confirmation on Eric – Eric Ciaramella is CIA

      Now add the following for Peter Strzok Army, FBI & CIA
      EXCLUSIVE: Peter Strzok Lawsuit Reveals He Had 28 Year “On Paper” Army Career
      Tore POSTED ON AUGUST 8, 2019
      http://loomered.com/2019/08/08/exclusive-peter-strzok-lawsuit-reveals-he-had-28-year-on-paper-army-career-while-working-at-fbi-cia/

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      • Bill Henslee says:

        When you enter the CIA as an undercover op, you are given a military rank as a junior officer. Your paperwork trail shows your career in the military with appropriate promotions in rank in relation to other officers of your class.

        Thus a CIA agent who is ‘sheepdipped;’ as a military officer can serve as a military attache in foreign country.. As such, the DOD has little or no control or choice
        over the assignments of the CIA officer. That may be the reason that DOD has not reassigned Vindland from the NSC –which is a concern expressed by Sundance above.

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  5. czarowniczy says:

    I’m not looking at it as much as the DoD collaborating with the CIA as I am the CIA using the DoD.

    The Agency has people buried in place for decades while the DoD moves command staff around every few years. You probably have some willing Pentagon brass at the top levels who are assisting the Agency, probably at lower levels too but there’s the ‘what’s in it for me’ factor playing in. Those officers at the forefront are mostly working at the behest of and not as a part of the Agency’s plan. It’s perhaps a fine distinction but it’s a distinction, a degree of separation.

    LTCs in the NSC seemingly working in Agency operations ain’t that unusual…remember LTC North…and during Vietnam any number of military were sheep dipped to work ‘with’but not ‘for’ the Agency. Seems that the LTC/0-5 grade is popular, wonder if it might be due to a perception that once one makes 0-5 (roughly 70% of 0-4s make 0-5) the chance that an 0-5 would make 0-6 drops to 50% and any little push is a mitzvah. An 0-5 in DC is breathing in the heady fumes of power that ooze through the Pentagon’s halls can become intoxicated, 0-5s in the Beltway swim in different waters than 0-5s in Camp Swampy.

    If you look back at the Agency’s ‘regime change’ operations around the world you’ll see it’s SOP to try and co-opt senior grade officers to overthrow governments. Foreign ‘field grade’ officers are in command positions they can use to influence those under them but are not so high in rank that they may have interests in the current regime they won’t be willing to compromise. That, to me, points right at our 0-5 belt as prime fishing grounds.

    Also, DoD is not comfortable with giving opcon of its assets to anyone, especially the Company. It’s generally the DoD people working with and not for the people at Langley. The Company has its own training grounds for its operational people, they’re hand-picked, specially vetted and their loyalty to the Company is more sure than bringing in outside people with outside interests and loyalties. In big high-risk ops the Company tends to keep it in-house for security and CYA reasons, iof someone’s going to come in from the outside there’ll be walls built.

    I don’t see this as a ‘Seven Days in May’ scenario, more like a…a…a…wait a minute, anyone out there remember a movie about the CIA trying to take over the US government (Oliver Stone doesn’t count)? Maybe there might be some Hollyork/Beltway connection. Hmmmmmm…

    View at Medium.com

    https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/07/operation-tinseltown-how-the-cia-manipulates-hollywood/491138/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washington-dc-films-fbi-24-intervening-close-relationship-a7918191.html

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    • SJM says:

      czarowniczy:

      Thank you for your insightful comments!!!

      Niech Bóg Cię błogosławi !!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Matt Bracken says:

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    • CIA is not using a “weapon” to take down a sitting President, they are using RUMORS AND PROPAGANDA they have refined over the course of the years…Time to BURY THEM ALONG WITH NSC and all the OTHER AGENCIES!!!!!!!!

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Well that depends on your definition of weapon but, as I said, there’s too much exposure for everyone to grassy-knoll him.

        The Beltway intel agencies are like trees that blow down in a storm. You look at the exposed root ball and think that’s all that was holding it up but the roots left far and deep into the soil you can’t see are the real structure.

        You look at the SS and the KGB after their respective governments fell. Folks saw their political supporting structure crumble and thought that the agencies were all gone but shards of them still remain and vex us to this day.

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  6. Old Dawg says:

    If I had anything to say about all of this, LtCol Vindman would be facing a court-martial and thereafter, serving time in Leavenworth for his violation of the UCMJ. He would not be receiving a military retirement!

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  7. Peter B says:

    How to hide a conspiracy: Yell “conspiracy theory” whenever part of the conspiracy is reported.

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  8. burnett044 says:

    if the truth of all the evil the CIA has done were ever truly known….folks would scarcely believe it.

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  9. Elle says:

    Isn’t it also possible that the deals have been cut and the purpose of these show trials is to get the comments on the permanent record as well as to educate the American public that there really was a coup attempt?

    All of the people who have appeared have managed to implicate themselves on the record for very specific transgressions. It almost seems to me like they’ve flipped and their are doing what they need to do in order to fulfill the deal.

    “During his deposition Lt Col Vindman also admitted -with considerable angst and attempts to deflect from his legal advisors provided by the Dept. of Defense- that he was intentionally usurping the chain of command in an effort to follow his own ideological agenda; and perhaps that of his DoD leadership”.

    I know it may be wishful thinking, but Trump tweeted that “I caught the swamp, I caught them all” and it’s been my observation that his tweets are usually harbingers of things to come.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      LTC Vindman seems to be throwing himself on his sword – I hate to use the Ollie North example again – and the payoff seems to be retirement at grade with no black marks. But then spending all of those years at EAC/Joint commands made me paranoid.

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    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      Elle,
      I think PDJT’s tweet foreshadows events to come. This OIG FISA abuse report is likely going to expose FBI malfeasance. It is also likely to expose CIA misdeeds.

      What Durham is likely uncovering will tie the coordination together.

      Perhaps, POTUS is waiting for Schiff to wander further into the trap with his allied witnesses.

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  10. paulashley says:

    Being from a military family, I loathe having to think that top brass is actively opposing the President, but have to admit it sure looks to be the case. Still, it could be that the CIC, on advice from political advisors, has instructed the DOD to lay off for now to avoid giving more ammo to the press. This despite the fact that reassignment due to a conflict of interest makes sense to a reasonable person. But … if Trump tweets about Vindman next week as he did about ambassador V this week, it will add credence to the theory of collusion of the brass, and possibly that of WH advisors. In 2020 a wholesale fumigation will be needed. A week of non-stop “You’re FIRED” will be in order.

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    • Daniel says:

      Obama pruned the military tree over his eight years. As a military family member, then surely you recognize the reality that above certain officer and enlisted ranks,you must be politically acceptable. It’s ALL politics when it comes to E7+ and O4+. One has to be carefully vetted before promotion happens.

      When Obama went about purging military leadership, not enough people understood what that was going to be about. In this case it was about more social engineering (transgender crap, political correctness+++, etc) But it could have been a lot more such as military intelligence and others.

      It all fits in with the complete remake of the government in every branch and in every department and agency. This is why judges keep ruling against everything Trump does. This is why, at approaching the end of his first term, the waiting list on senate approvals is still ridiculously long and late.

      I’ll vote for and donate to any candidate who will offer up bill which will hold judges accountable for their abuse of power. Some of the things these activist judges have pulled has been absolutely absurd and malicious. And if it was simply ignorance and stupidity, those qualities should be reason enough to have them removed and replaced.

      Judges are all they have left though… None in congress on the left are effective.

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      • Tl Howard says:

        I’d guess it was about turning US foreign policy against Israel and for Muslims and “Palestine.”

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      • Dixie T says:

        Yes! And Obama fired 200 Generals, and replaced them with his own. WHO would have given Obama the names of 200 Generals to “add” to his “Replacement List?” Obama IS NOT a military man, by any stretch of the word—-so someone in DOD or the Pentagon gave Obama the names of the “replacement Generals.”

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  11. Daniel says:

    Any act by anyone under the executive will result in the president being impeached for obstructing a farce. THIS is why they are being told to stand down. This is also why the Mueller crap went on for so long.

    All they have is “obstruction.” They are desperately trying to make the claim. They tried to get Trump to do something. Now they are trying to get ANYONE to do something. All they need is something they can call obstruction. And they aren’t getting it. They are desperate.

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    • Judith says:

      Obstruction is one thing. President Trump authorized AG Barr to declassify documents during the TREASONOUS Mueller COUP, but Barr held back. WHY? I think Trump knew then what the game was. Barr failed the test.

      This game ain’t over. Obstruction keeps the President from taking action against these TREASONOUS COUP PLOTTERS. Those who hold positions that are separate and distinct from the Executive power should carry that ball, but they refuse to do their jobs.

      There is another ticking time bomb at play here as well, and that is RETALIATION, which encompasses any action taken by the President which can be construed as payback. Again, nobody with the authority to “punish” these TREASONOUS COUP PLOTTERS has stepped into the gap either, to protect their Commander-in-Chief. All we have so far is bluster. They’re just putting on a show.

      So is our Constitutional Republic worth defending, or not?

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      • NC Patriot says:

        Judith—–your timing is off. Barr came in and ended the Mueller fiasco and did the summary conclusion very rapidly………… AFTER that POTUS gave Barr the declass. authority to use when he needed it. He will be using it for the IG report and Durham’s investigation.

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  12. chojun says:

    As far as I’m concerned Vindman put on a uniform and testified to insubordination against his commander in chief

    He should be court martialed.

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    • Dwayne Diesel says:

      During my 13 years in the Navy, I have seen others court martialed for far less severe offenses. And it happened quickly.

      This is treason. He should be hanged. On pay per view….help pay down some of that debt.

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  13. Stephen F. Paul says:

    One would think that Vindman would be held accountable for his insubordination ,he admits he deliberately went against the wishes of the president . He’s such a slimy character he makes me sick. I’d like to see him thrown out on his you know what

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    • botchedcasuality says:

      He does not look military he looks like a ball of dough, barely able to hold a pencil.
      Not much testosterone circulating in that shell.

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      • swissik says:

        He is most likely just a “sitting at a desk” military, i.e. an administrator. In my own career I’ve come across a few myself. The put in their 20 or so years, then take another job, preferably with a govt. agency or an academic institution, and are financially set for a lucrative retirement, aka as double dippers.

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  14. My prediction is Vindman will be bitch-slapped around by Jordan, Ratcliff and maybe Stefanik during next week’s hearing. He’ll see the handwriting on the wall and will file his retirement papers within 30 days to hopefully retire with his pension intact.

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  15. Blind no Longer says:

    Every night and every day I pray that God will take these people down by exposing their evilness!!
    Every night I pray that God will help President Trump save our country.
    Every day and every night I thank God for giving us President Trump. I pray for his safety, health and strength to continue this fight against an evil force in our government/country that I’m still shocked exists here.
    The military was the one thing I thought President Trump and we the people could count on…I’ve been shocked at the level of corruption and evil that has infiltrated every level of our institutions.

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    • Judith says:

      I was hoping for the military to step in too. I guess guarding Bush’s poppy fields and starting wars is more lucrative than stepping up to defend our Constitutional Republic.

      The USA is just another “regime change” in the grand scheme of UN’s Agenda 21 New World Order. Their goal was 2021 and it looks like they’re right on schedule. This TREASONOUS COUP is the Grand Finale.

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  16. Republicanvet91 says:

    Perhaps I have not been reading thoroughly enough or comprehending what I am reading.

    It appears as if there was an April phone call, and the WH “Ukraine expert” wrote his own summary, which did not match the transcript. If his different summary was known long before, during a period in which the WH was known to be hunting leaks, is it possible Vindman was left in place to find all of his connections and handlers?

    I am trying to wrap my head around the Joint Chiefs. Your explanation above Sundance contains several points that warrant questioning the Joint Chiefs, and why they are leaving Vindman in place. If they were truly involved in a coup effort, would not leaving Vindman in place be an obvious exposure of their motives?

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    • NC Patriot says:

      POTUS is NOT stupid. He is wise and a strategic planner. He doesn’t miss much going on around him. If that jerk is still there it is for a reason. The HEAD of the joint chiefs who just retired (Dunford) RECRUITED POTUS to run. The new one was, I am sure on his recommendation.

      There are some bad apples in the upper military, I am sure—-but I think it is a HUGE leap to imply the military, writ large, is in on this coup.

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  17. Luz Maria Rodriguez says:

    The pajama boy. More correct than not.
    Now we get a glimpse as to why and how the CIA has missed so many calls these last few years. It is probably full of such as pajama boy. Such metro men, pencil necks, are no match for intelligence agents of the serious nations.

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  18. trnathens says:

    With all due respect, Sundance, but isn’t it a bit presumptuous to think that you/we think we know more about what’s going on, more so than even VSGPDJT?

    Prediction: report comes out, and it’s bad for everyone we want it to be bad about. Indictments. Big names, Obama even.

    Ultimately, Chiefs of Staff are forced to resign, after martial law is declared, because the shock and awe will be SO awesome, that it will overwhelm the vast majority of public, and strain the bonds of community, nation, and country.

    Remember the unexplained tweet, “Calm before the storm.”

    This is it. The storm is coming. It won’t be pretty. But we win, see. We win, because VSGPDJT knows. He’s telling us he knows. And he has the backing of the military, even if not the Joint Chiefs.

    Remember the tweet. Back in 2017. Google it.

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    • trnathens says:

      By “we win”, I mean the American people. This IS draining the swamp.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      Stop with the martial law crap,

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      • trnathens says:

        I’m not advocating for it!

        But do you really think the Left is going to take indictments laying down?

        Look what they did to Kavanaugh, and the nationwide mobilization of demonstration, hate, and “resistance”.

        Think about what we claim to want: indictments, perp walks (other people’s words on here, not mine).

        You think they’re just gonna roll over? The people we want indicted are the hero’s of the left.

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        • Ned Zeppelin says:

          I can’t agree with a martial law forecast either, but given the vehemence of the Left, I don’t see them meekly throwing down their arms. But on the other hand, Durham has dealt with hard, organized crime types, and these folks are not hard and it will be easier to get them to sing once the indictments start. So who knows.

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    • Orange Julius says:

      Aaaaaany day now….
      Sorry trnathens, please pardon many of us for being a little too jaded. While we’d all love to see the guilty hang, it just ain’t gonna’ happen. Our President is looking more and more alone, surrounded by knife wielding roman senators who mean to rule us. If we want to win, we’re going to have to get off our duffs and make it happen.

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  19. DC Refugee says:

    Trump was poorly advised in the early days of his transition and administration. Every person who served at the President’s discretion should have had to reapply, then undergo a strong vetting. I spent time on the Speaker’s transition team in 1994 and very intimately participated in a thorough “House-cleaning”. A heaping load of rotten wood, ghost employees and poisonous partisans were sent packing. I have to ask: How would his administration be different today had he done that? Would this Schiff subterfuge and the sophistry de jour roiling the Administration have a different face?

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    • WSB says:

      President Trump has been working in the swamp for 40 years. It does not matter to him. He forges ahead with his plans anyway.

      Always has, always will.

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    • DC Refugee –
      I think about what you speak of very often. As I am sorting it out – coming into office, he was convinced of the loyalty and integrity of a lot of people who ultimately were neither. Remember how Comey said they accosted Gen Flynn the way they did because the place was in such chaos?

      I think Paul Ryan had a lot to do with it. Trump is not a politician, doesn’t think like one and certainly doesn’t act like on. His staff was probably being mislead and deceived in terms of how to get things done. Trump was a novice. He said he was surprised how the negative feelings persisted to this day after his election. He was expecting Americans to behave like Americans shortly after the inauguration.

      Now, that Trump seems to finally have gotten a clearer understanding of what and who the swamp is, the resistance is increasing. He will surely have his day. He will surely make his moves.

      What a travail my heart is in over all of this, likely all Trump supporters also.

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      • Judith says:

        It is hard for me to believe that Donald Trump was completely naive or didn’t fully appreciate the scope and breadth of that putrid swamp going into this. He campaigned on draining that swamp. He then delineated those plans in his inaugural address, his UN speech and during his countless rallies. To this day, his messages to the people are prescient.

        And I think that PDJT deliberately kept a few choice swamp critters in his orbit, if only to study their habits or throw them off the trail. Maybe he kept the ones he thought could best be manipulated, the ones most prone to making mistakes in his favor, and bringing the RAID back to their nest. It’s kind of like choosing your weapon on the battlefield.

        In any case, I’m sure that by now he’s got their number. Surely he knows without question, who can and cannot be trusted. You can bank on it. If the swamp wasn’t extremely concerned, they wouldn’t be in red alert survival mode over the past 3 years!

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    • missdo2 says:

      My sister worked in the White House under Ronald Reagan. She is a top tier Republican. When Bush senior took the reign he cleaned EVERY one out including my sister!! She went on to be in charge of the Republican convention in New Orleans.

      When PDJT took office I often wondered out loud why he had so many hold overs from the previous administration.

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      • Bill Henslee says:

        Trump was such an outsider that he didn’t have a core of loyal followers who knew DC inside out and could advise him on appointments. The GOP elite had been snubbed and didn’t like him anyway so they were not likely to assist. It sounds crazy but the committee that recommends who the President appoints into the bureaucracy has to be functioning before the election as you canot begin to vet and appoint thousands of people after the election. Trump still has openings not filled. They try to make this a virtue, but you really do need people who know where the copy machines are.

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  20. Mario Flores says:

    More and more it looks like Pence is a dirty rat. Two of his advisors have now been outed as complicit in efforts to oust President Trump. Does Trump know and will replace him is that why Haley is making a lot of MAGA noise lately. Is she the backup to continue the sabotage?

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  21. WTF says:

    I am really starting to get perturbed at Pence’s people.

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  22. trumpmemesandreams says:

    Immediately and entirely removing Vindman [and Ciaramella, and Yovanovitch] would seem to be the best course of action, but also one that would immediately give credence to retaliation and trigger screams of ‘whistleblower’ protections, and bring up obstruction of justice charges, etc. Of course, this begs the question: is there any justice to obstruct?

    The SecDef has spoken, and it ain’t pretty:
    “Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Monday that an Army officer has no reason to fear retribution for testifying before Congress in the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump. Esper was asked about potential retribution for Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman during a trip to New York City. The defense secretary said the Pentagon “has protections for whistleblowers” who report waste, fraud or abuse. He said Vindman or any other whistleblower “shouldn’t have any fear of retaliation,” according to a transcript of the exchange released by online publication Defense One.”

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/11/13/pentagon-chief-says-vindman-should-not-fear-army-retaliation-in-trump-inquiry/

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    • WSB says:

      Vindman is not a whistleblower. neither is Ciaremella.

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      • Dwayne Diesel says:

        I some what agree. There is no “actual” whistle blower IMO. There are several people, two of which you named, that colluded, among others, to oust the President. Using a “whistle blower” was just their method to get the ball rolling.

        The coup team just never thought Trump would leak the transcript of the 2nd call and subsequently the 1st call.

        I’m just surprised the Dems are pushing this forward. The reality of the matter is that it’s blowing up in their faces and exposing a lot of traitors. The narrative being presented though to the low info U.S. lemmings is that Trump is bad- see, people think so. So many morons in this country who are so easily duped.

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        • Dwayne Diesel says:

          I’d like to add, that’s why Schiff can’t call the WB as a witness per se. There is no one witness but rather the cabal of people he is parading out in front of the tv cameras. He is technically giving us the “whistle blower” just not all of them.

          Maybe that’s far fetched but after seeing and hearing what I have seen so far, nothing is far fetched anymore.

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          • Dwayne Diesel says:

            And by “whistle blower” I mean leakers.

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          • TWOHAWK says:

            IMHO, Vindman and Ciaramella are leakers, and Schifty is the ‘whistleblower’.
            Because- Ciaramella went to Schiff, with his leak, and Schiff thought his own identity would be protected. It’s going to come out. Schiff is having orgasms over being the whistleblower.

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        • rayvandune says:

          But in the MSM, none of this bad stuff is happening, just wonderful loyal people are being made to cry by Trump’s attacks! As long as the media works for the Deep State, the average American will not learn anything about this coup. It is being very effectively smothered with banalities.

          Trump cannot get through to Mom and Pop America on Twitter! He needs to sit down behind that big desk and lay it all out on national TV. Stay on message and explain it carefully without all the wandering off topic, bombast, and bragging. Normal people expect “presidential” at times of crisis. It is not fun, not his comfort zone, but if he doesn’t have the self-discipline to do that, he may lose. And if he loses, America loses!

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          • swissik says:

            You expressed it very well. By now the President should have figured out that some of his tweets, some of his bombast is not reassuring those voters who just want to make a decent living and who don’t spend their free time on social media. As you say, they expect presidential behavior when they perceive trouble ahead.

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            • Dwayne Diesel says:

              I will politely disagree.

              His rallies speak otherwise. They were large before but the crowds keep getting bigger and bigger.

              He should do one at the Dallas Cowboys stadium. I bet he would fill it to capacity plus.

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          • NC Patriot says:

            65 million people follow on twitter—–thousands more give contacts at every rally. Most seniors I know do NOT tweet—-but somehow they know what is going on. Talk radio also helps. I think MOM and POP America know what is going on.

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            • Victoria C Walton says:

              Retired senior here–almost 77yo…you’re so right. Most seniors I know are well informed. Most dont tweet, but are avid readers of CTH/Sundance, and other Pundits, listen to talk radio and navigate the Net for citizen journalists’ programs that help us keep up with what is going on nationally and around the world. We all try to seek truth and therefore never much turn on the Fake News MSM. I dont even own a TV anymore. It gives us an opportunity to stay in the “battle” as we put on the Armor of God daily. Many of us are focused on being Prayer Warriors as we see the onslaught of the vicious attacks on our POTUS and We The People.
              Isaiah 54:17 New International Version (NIV)
              17 “no weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and this is their vindication from me,” declares the Lord

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              • TWOHAWK says:

                Dear Victoria,
                I am your junior, but still a ‘seasoned’ American, that does not watch the TV. (Weather casts- ok. Documentary on honey badgers- guilty.) I might have too much time on my hands, but, I have been paying close attention to this battle, since before the election.
                Please know that your words and shared scripture will inspire many. Thank you. And may God bless you. James 5:16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power to prevail.

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          • TWOHAWK says:

            I am still waiting for that fireside chat. But, in absence of that, or until, we may get the trial in the senate, to lay Everything, and Everyone, out there for America to see. The Republicans, and our own foot soldiers, will do the best (Be Best!) we can to get the facts right, disseminate them to as many who will read and listen, and the senate trial, with it’s fair, constitutional rules, will be one of the most watched- ever. You have common sense. Refreshing.

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    • G Michael says:

      They can reports waste fraud and abuse. NOT commit waste, fraud and abuse. THAT is the distinction I would hang them with.

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    • TWOHAWK says:

      Charging someone with dereliction of duty, sedition or perjury is not retaliation, if in fact, it did occur. As in this case of Mr. Vindman.

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  23. Jimmy Jack says:

    All I have done is thought about this long and hard!!! Who can think about anything else? What is happening in unbelievable in the US, truly the stuff of history books and Clancy novels.

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  24. 1riot1ranger says:

    Maybe that’s why Trump met with Erdogan last Thursday-to get some pointers on how to survive a coup.

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    • TWOHAWK says:

      I think Trump ‘intimated’ to Erdogan that we are cleaning house, and he has documents and stuff that we need, and he should bring them in person, tout suite .

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  25. mr.piddles says:

    In related Faux Impeachment news…

    “Morrison listened in on the July 25 call with Zelensky and said that he became concerned about it in particular when Trump brought up the DNC server. He said that the call reaffirmed fears expressed by Fiona Hill, Trump’s former top Russia expert, about a “parallel process” regarding U.S. policy making towards Ukraine.”

    Concerned “in particular”, you say? It’s all about Crowdstrike, folks. Everybody on the inside knows what went down in 2016… at least if they’re being honest with themselves. And some of those everybodies were listening in on a certain phone call, and peed their pants a little when the word “Crowdstrike” was thrown out there.

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  26. JL says:

    “For emphasis let me repeat a current fact that is being entirely overlooked. Despite his admitted usurpation of President Trump policy, Vindman was sent back to his post in the NSC with the full support of the United States Department of Defense.”

    Because Vindman has been caught with his pants down in a conspiracy, and now they want to watch him and what he does very, very closely. Something they can’t do if he’s fired.

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  27. Elle says:

    In the end, America really is a wonderful and great place if not the greatest ever. I can understand how a person could get caught up in thinking they knew better and going along to get along, but in the end, many of these same people do love their country. They just messed up, got caught up in themselves and wanted to be somebody. There but for the grace of God go you and I.

    It’s not like they are flipping, it’s more like they are coming clean. Is it worth going down for people like Hunter Biden and John Kerry’s kid? Nobody in their right mind wants to go down in history being the insignificant butt-boy carrying the water of those destroying the happy smurfs.

    I feel Sundance’s concern about this going from a hard to soft coup, I pray that the system of our forefathers is strong enough prevail another day.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      That’s a very positive and forgiving perspective, Elle, so good for you. Let’s just say I have a totally different perspective than yours. Over the past three years we’ve had a crystal clear view of the heart of The Swamp. In many ways it’s much worse than perhaps we thought. At least for me it is. But it’s funny how it all starts to fall apart a little bit once you start poking at it.

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  28. 4220ma says:

    I just can’t help but wonder why the DOD would want to get rid of Trump. He has given them all the toys and shiny things they have ask for. Surely they don’t want to go back to worse than Obama funding. Which would happen if one of the many chosen ones are elected. Just my 2 cents. Vindman will pay his dues in time. You can count on that.

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  29. BitterC says:

    Apparently this tweeter person has been scouring the released transcripts for references to Vidman

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  30. BitterC says:

    Wow…am not going to post all this guy’s tweets, but it looks like Morrison’s testimony is worth a read.

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  31. Seadoc66 says:

    LTC Vindman stands in violation of his oath of office as an officer in the Army of the United States.

    LTC Vindman is not a war hero. On his tunic he wears not one single award for valor nor even a meritorious service award while in a combat assignment (will not get into the weeds, but LTC Vindman’s left chest tells us old vets many things about him). Not to take anything away from him nor any armed forces member wearing the purple heart, but the purple heart is not an award for valor. It is awarded for injuries/wounds received as a result of hostile action.

    If I were assigned as LTC Vindman’s commanding officer he would be under investigation. If that investigation provided evidence that he was/is participating in a coup (or any sort of resistance to the CINC/President) I would do everything in my power to court martial him! As a retired combat soldier I submit he has already committed the worst sin an officer wearing infantry brass and the combat infantry badge (CIB) can commit. He has been less than candid in his testimony. Soldier/Cop/Grunt, Retired

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    • sedge2z says:

      Thank you, Seadoc. Most of us do not know what all LTC Vindman’s metals represent, so your comment answers a lot of our suspicions: “he wears not one single award for valor nor even a meritorious service award while in a combat assignment”

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  32. @ChicagoBri says:

    The federal government grew for two reasons – the Depression and WWII. If we have a strong economy and normal relations with Russia, maybe the federal government wouldn’t need to be quite so big.

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    • 4220ma says:

      Russia is not a real threat to the US. Except for their Nukes. They have an economy the size of Italy. We spend 10 times the amount they do on defense. The real enemy is China. Russia has never taken one job away from an American citizen. China has taken millions. China is trying to modernize their military as fast as they can. Russia is towing their only aircraft carrier around because they can’t buy parts. We need to do everything in our power to educate people on these facts. Trump is correct all this Russia Russia stuff is BS.

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    • WSB says:

      President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

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    • glissmeister says:

      Exactly. This is their biggest fear. Beyond the concealment of criminal activities, the larger systemic motive for anti-Trump resistance within the beltway is the fear Trump will sweepingly act to modernize the agencies, DOS and CIA in particular, to gut the institutional bloat and cull the infiltrating sprawl of thousands of added positions rogue interests have created or caused to be created in other federal agencies as part of the official (and clandestine) agenda to permanently install governing “interagency” fiat usurpation of the federal government, protected from Executive Branch control by cohort political and syndicate interests that have infiltrated or otherwise formed within Congress. This seems to be the chess game being acted out now.

      The creation of these “interagency” governance structures is inherently malignant as they consolidate power in the vanities of the unelected and their non-executive branch sponsors. They encourage rogue action and invite the very type of sedition and corruption now unfolding before us.

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  33. @ChicagoBri says:

    The federal government grew for two reasons – the Depression and WWII/Cold War. If we have a strong economy and normal relations with Russia, maybe the federal government wouldn’t need to be quite so big.

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  34. The Devilbat says:

    The CIA have been running drugs into the country for many decades. They therefore have their own massive funding. The CIA a supremely dangerous rogue organization that is run on behalf of criminals for criminals.

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  35. capetribulation1 says:

    Court-marshal Vindman!

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  36. Tom says:

    “Holds equity” is not a meaningful, or even sensible, phrase.

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  37. POTUS announced that he has caught them all. That being the case, he might as well leave them in place until they either leave of their own accord (in shame) or are indicted for criminal acts. Vindman understands that he now can’t even pick his nose without the record being noted. He was likely told to expect some gardening leave. Removal at this point is expected by the coup plotters and no doubt planned to be used against the President. Denying them ammo is prudent tactically.

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    • MelH says:

      “…Caught them all” might just be hyperbole. I’ve not paid much attention to the President’s Tweets to see if hyperbole is common for him. Have You?

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      • NC Patriot says:

        He used the “caught them all” in a copter press briefing—not a tweet.

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        • sedge2z says:

          “caught them all” …Yep. I heard POTUS say that in a copter press briefing – and haven’t read anything about it since.
          Maybe that’ll be a Christmas present for us?

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        • MelH says:

          Either way, I’m guessing it’s hyperbole just because today he named some of the ones he “caught”, like James Comey., Peter Strauk, McCabe, Baker etc. “They’re gone, ” he said. “Gone” isn’t “Caught”, in my book, “Gone” just means they are going to surface in a different place or retire, unpunished. Nothing really changes. Deep State control continues.

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    • sedge2z says:

      The coup plotters may slither away from their elitist government jobs, only to become elitist professors in our elitist universities!

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  38. Truth seeker says:

    One thing is abundantly clear through all of this; The left/Coup plotters/democrats want absolutely nothing to do with a thorough investigation of what happened in/with Ukraine during the 2016 election or beyond.

    What are they really hiding? Must be some hugely damaging stuff, whatever it is.

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  39. Reverent says:

    Point of order: chain of command is POTUS, SECDEF, Combat branches.

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  40. scorpion99man says:

    The bottom line is that the former Vice President of the United States got his crack addict son a $50-83k / month job with Burisma. He then threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid unless the prosecutor investigating his son’s employer was fired. The prosecutor was fired and his son kept his job. So, what exactly did Trump do wrong?

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  41. G Michael says:

    This guy is just about as useless as they come. What a juvenile performance.

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  42. Bob Parker says:

    SD, Tremendous post/analysis/commentary. The sham-wow impeachment proceedings (both private & public) have intentionally & unintentionally surfaced many important factoids to light. And I can only pray that President Trump & his team are not only aware of ALL of it, but in fact have IMPLEMENTED plans of CORRECTIVE ACTION.

    The Military- Their SHOCKING inaction over Vindman’s testimony + admitted conduct tells us that THEY ARE IN ON THE FIX/COUP. Heads @ the Joint Chiefs @ their highest levels need to start rolling IMMEDIATELY & replaced with America-loving/Trump supporters at minimum!! And IMMEDIATE COURT MARTIALS to ALL of those Generals that refused to take any action on Vindman!

    Brennan- This treasonous bastard needs to be deemed Public Enemy #1 & be among the VERY 1st that AGRESSIVE litigation is pursued AS SOON AS HOROWITZ;s report has been issued!! And he MUST be imprisoned immediately perhaps sent straight to GITMO so as to send the strongest possible message to the Deep State. Something like this:

    We just put Brennan on ice & now we are going to come after each of YOU!!

    Vindman- He, like Brennan needs to be sent to GITMO ASAP while awaiting court-martial for TREASON. And, yes, his EXECUTION MUST be vigorously pursued by the Military. Nothing less is acceptable.

    Ciaramella- Clearly a spy who needs to be arrested, imprisoned, & charged with espionage. Let his lawyers chew on that 1 for awhile.

    Van Hack- How is it that DOJ recently PROMOTED this bastard? Is he in DC or is he based out of NY? This bastard needs to be terminated immediately if within the parameters of DOJ with aggressive actions taken to immediately & permanently DISBAR him!

    Obama hack judges (i.e. Judge Amy Vermin Jackson)- There needs to be some IMMEDIATE impeachment/disciplinary actions/measures taken against these clowns so as to tie them up in their own litigation for their judicial survival while at the same time REMOVING them from continuing to be assigned to active cases! The travesty of Vermin Jackson’s conduct re Manafort & most recently Roger Stone is nothing short of appalling.

    Judge Vermin Jackson in my view needs to be thrown into an isolated jail cell for at least the length of time that she put Mr. Manafort in. Oh yeah, let’s also allow Judge Vermin Jackson to spend that time in Riker’s Island, NY. Absolutely nothing but the BEST for you Your Dishonor!!

    All of the clowns who have lied under oath during the sham-wow hearings- Swift & IMMEDIATE prosecution of each & every 1 of them for their perjury with the harshest of penalties looming following their anticipated convictions!!

    Schiff- It is so refreshing to see that you are currently under FEDERAL investigation!! Apparently your hanging out on numerous occasions with the CA pedophile, your confirmed kinky garb that you wore to at least 2 of his parties, it is all coming out. And for added enjoyment, your OWN corrupt involvement in the Ukraine with a hat tip to John Solomon et al is also coming to light. Your Congressional power is literally shrinking before your very eyes & you are simply to STUPID & CORRUPT to see it. SEE YA IN GITMO PAL!!

    Pelosi- There comes a time in ones life when RETIREMENT is best. Kick back, enjoy the illicit millions of $$$ you & your family made while in politics, enjoy grandkids. But no, the power of Washington DC is all-addictive, all-consuming. Pelosi, your son’s corruption in Ukraine is becoming exposed & with it YOUR OWN corruption over the course of your political career. You are now in way over your head & justice agin’ you & your corrupt family is fast closing in. And as with your minions Schiff & “Dickie Do” Nadler, your grossly slanted conduct with your sham-wow hearings is only DAMAGING DEMS by many of your patty’s own admissions! I liken you to the Captain of the Titanic Nancy. Your ship has hit the iceberg, your ship is taking on water, & you & your damned party of Socialists/Marxists are all going down with it!!

    The Squad- Ron White said it best, “YOU CAN”T FIX STUPID!” How great is that each & every 1 of you are now being exposed as time passes for your own individual corrupt practices? Personally I LOVE IT!!

    Indeed, the time is NOW for action by President Trump & his team. The Deep State has unabashedly shown the extent & depth of their existence within our government & now even our God-Damned MILITARY!!

    If corrective action against the Deep State is not taken & taken SOON, exactly WHEN will these many actions commenced??

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  43. amr632 says:

    Since Schiff accidentally released the whstleblowers name, why is almost if not all media not repeating his name. They have exposed Republican’s presidents policies to defeat terrorism such as following the money to bank accounts and the use satphones, but that is somehow different.

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  44. Harry Nipples says:

    Has anyone looked at Haspel? Did she threaten Warner into voting for her? She seems to enjoy threatening men and she hired lots of women for high ranking positions in the CIA, none of which support Trump. I have some deep suspicions about her role in all this. She was in charge of Cat’s Eye and some that knew her have reported she enjoyed it, too much…

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  45. NJ Transplant says:

    Sundance is absolutely right. Look at how the generals treated PDJT. McMaster, Mattis and Kelly were all dirty. Who recommended them? The only good one was Flynn and he was their first target. Devin Nunes said in his book that he advised the White House not to fire Flynn. I wish to God they had listened. Most of this garbage would have been avoided.

    I sent links of this article to the White House, AG Barr, the RNC and the Devin Nunes campaign. One of those people has got to read this before Vindman’s second testimony.

    Thank you Sundance for doing what the media should be doing.

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  46. redthunder238 says:

    Can anyone explain why Pompeo’s picture is thrown in?

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  47. OldSaltUSNR says:

    “The United States Military is collaborating with the CIA to remove a U.S. President from office.”

    Naw, Sundance is probably mistaken here. It’s much more simple, fundamental: The US Military service commanders guard their own turf, particularly at the Pentagon. If they cross a Republican, it’s uncomfortable, but relatively pain free. If they cross a Democrat, it’s sure career death. It’s never forgotten. It guarantees retribution towards the commander’s service in terms of lost manpower, assets, and budget. Each of the service top commanders believe that above all, it’s their duty to perpetuate that service, for the ultimate benefit of the country. When the Navy loses manpower, ships, planes, weapons platforms, and bases, it cannot perform it’s mission. Ditto with the Army and it’s Divisions, it’s tanks, it’s arty, and air arm, the USAF, Marines, and Coast Guard.

    What Sundance is recognizing is that the Joint Chiefs will not get into a political brawl between the Democrats and Republicans, because no matter what, WHEN (not if) the Democrats return to power, bet it Executive or the full Congressional (Senate/House) purse, no matter what the outcome, both the military services and specific commanders, will pay the price.

    My guess is that Vindman retires very shortly. There’s no reason to pull the plug on his assignment; he’s self-destructing. He’ll never be promoted again, and he doesn’t care. My guess is that Vindman is positioning himself for a post-retirement appointment into the next Democrat Presidential Administration, after he’s served a half decade or so with some well regarded Democrat funded “think tank”. Regardless of Vindman’s particular, personal priorities, whether it be left wing politics, steering the Ukraine towards a greater socialism, etc., he’s primary goal is to his own benefit, i.e. money, prestige, a post-Army job, and perhaps as a civilian authority within the CIA or Army, even commanding the Generals. That’s where Vindman “properly” sees himself.

    The Joint Chiefs and military services? They’re just cowering, taking cover, letting this thing play out. Certainly, I could name a half dozen prior military Joint Chief commanders who would have been bold enough to take Vindman to the woodshed, terminate his assignment, give him administrative duties until he reached retirement, and absorb the flack from the Democrats and their wholly owned national media. However, none of them are serving in today’s military. We have the Clinton-Obama military, where young officers were selected for the academies and promoted to flag and General officer ranks under eight years each of Clinton and Obama. We don’t have any Adm. Lyons or Gen Schwarzkopf’s in today’s military. We have political, perfumed, Democrat-leaning princes running the show. That’s the cost of 16 years of Marxist indoctrination by two left-wing Presidents. I know. I was there until 1995, when I walked away from my (reserve) career as an 14 year USN-USNR CDR/05, partially due to the clear indoctrination being forced on senior military officers.

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  48. The Conservator says:

    Shame few listened to Joe McCarthy

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  49. Guest says:

    Sounds like Vindman was spying on the President then went behind his back to get the Ukrainians not to cooperate with the investigation into election interference.

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