Senator Grassley Questions “What the Game Is” With IG Report?…

Senator Chuck Grassley has questions:

There is a background story happening in DC where re-authorization of the USA Freedom Act is needed prior to expiration on December 15th. Techno Fog points out the bulk NSA data collection and FISA(702) surveillance programs are part of this reauthorization.

On November 6th, the Senate Judiciary Committee held hearings on the reauthorization.  “Senators expressed their displeasure Wednesday with the Trump administration’s inability to answer questions about the National Security Agency’s collection of data records” (link). Which begs the question:

Is the current Inspector General report on FISA abuse being delayed due to the need for congress to reauthorize the very same programs the IG is about to criticize?

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For context to this question, and considering the potential for some surprising revelations within the IG report on FISA, it is worth noting the Office of the Director of National Intelligence held back the the findings of FISA Judge James Boasberg that strongly criticized the FISA-702 process for a year.

The Judge Boasberg report was written in September of 2018 but not released (redacted) until last month.

There is a serious problem here…

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307 Responses to Senator Grassley Questions “What the Game Is” With IG Report?…

  1. smartyjones1 says:

    It’s all a circus. The FISA Abuse Report is coming out. No stopping it now.
    All the seditionists are lawyer d up and raring to go.

    Go directly to jail.

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    • J.Thomas says:

      I would like to think that part of the hold up with the release is due to the desire to keep the associated criminal investigation(s) shrouded for as long as possible.

      It sounds like there was a carve-out for Comey, and that it may have been escalated to a criminal investigation.

      Like it or not, it appears as though the Barr/Durham team is going about this without turning it into a leakfest meant to manufacture political narratives. Unfortunately that leaves us in the cold without knowing whether or not justice is ever going to be served here.

      I pray that these guys know the gravity of this process and these decisions. If justice here is not served, its damage to the United States will be nearly incalculable and may create fault lines underneath us that will begin moving balkanized regions away from one another. The Great Schism.

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      • stringplayer55 says:

        Delaying this report enables Schiffty’s Great Schism

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      • Sorry, but your “Great Schism” already occurred, reaching its height with the election of Obama/Soetoro in 2008; the Democrat party has been The Insane Left (the name I gave them back in 2009-10, watching the Obamacare spectacle and strange “outreach” to Muslims). The damage has already been done; it needs to be fixed, not prevented. Many of us simply won’t accept the CIA, FBI and other politicized executive branch agencies, ever again. We know them now, and they can’t take their treason back as if it never happened.

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        • J.Thomas says:

          I think that the Coup (Spygate + Ukrainegate + Kavanaughgate + … + …) will lead to a knew kind of “woke”. It will mean that the internal distrust of American media will be complete, and that it will be understood that the Obama Administration leftovers led a coordinated coup across the bureaucracy, which even featured a military figurehead (Vindman) who was used for imagery.

          The bureaucracy has lost credibility. The DOJ, CIA, and Court System have all been corrupted.

          How can this corruption be cured? Can it be cured at all?

          I think that this corrupt Coup is something that is a game changer for the foreseeable future. If justice isn’t served against its plotters and actors, it will eventually lead to open revolt. There is a lot at stake here.

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      • zozz1 says:

        As I understand this process from the previous IG report, the draft has to go to all the persons named in it, and that they have a chance to correct any errors or some such thing. If that is true, then all of the ones we think might be in trouble already know what is in store, and they can be making whatever preparations/arrangements they think they need. In other words, there won’t be surprises for them upon the release, inasmuch as they already know what’s in it. Am I mistaken?

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        • mimbler says:

          I think that is generally correct, although I don’t think they are briefed on the recommendations. So hopefully, they will be surprised with criminal referrals.

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      • LouisianaTeaRose says:

        The Durham investigation is like a black hole…..even light will not escape. I am willing to let everything he is working on to remain in the dark because the last thing the vast roster of seditionists need is a detailed “heads-up”. I am plenty satisfied knowing how they are panicking 24/7 and can’t see daylight coming from any direction.

        NO QUARTER. NO QUARTER. NO QUARTER!!!!!!!!

        Luv me some LZ!

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    • Ford Peterson says:

      There may be a problem with the UK partner in the 5-eyes nonsense. Clinton was hawking her new book about brave shills. She was describing how #10 was holding up the release of the UK version of the mueller report until after the 12/15 elections in the UK. It’s amazing how the 12/15 date keeps sneaking into the discussions.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      They must reauthorize the tool used to spy on Trump so that they can continue to spy on Trump.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      The only solution is to create a 3rd party to do the FBI request so that potential abuse can be monitored. The FBI cannot be trusted do their own use of the database. Someone needs to stand between the FBI and US citizens.

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      • coolmamie says:

        Was not the Obama White House the effective 3rd party making the FBI requests in 2012-2017?

        Or, who would choose the 3rd Party monitor? and would we not just end up asking the question, “who was monitoring the monitor?”

        I am jaded. Seems to me no sense in making big changes. Just prosecute the hell out of a few bigwigs once in a while.

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        • bertdilbert says:

          No. If the FBI wants to use the database, they have to put in a request to a 3rd party to search national database. The abuse happened at FBI level. Abuse it you lose it. None of this FBI putting in private contractors to do the dirty work for them and the CIA.

          Trump needs to get behind changes that must occur to prevent this from happening again. Neither can the FBI be trusted to take things directly to the FISA court. It must go through a 3rd party to investigate the request.

          Right now the FISA court rubber stamps most everything. A judge cannot be expected to investigate the veracity of an org that failed veracity 101.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        A better solution would be to let the entire FISA/NSA nonsense expire. There is no way that any so-called ‘protections’ can’t be gotten around. Easily.

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    • chucknorrisrules says:

      I really hope that Barr isn’t holding it up or watering it down under the pretext of we must “protect these great institutions” (that obviously are not so great). The best way to protect these institutions in the long run is to shine the light brightly. Expose the corruption so it can be rooted out and prevented from happening again. As Barr said, “let the chips fall where they fall”. Something tells me that there was so much abuse that convictions may get revisited and thrown out if the illegal spying on Americans is exposed. Well beyond anything to do with Trump. So be it.

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    • Zippy says:

      “Go directly to jail.”

      Sure… don’t get your hopes up.

      FISA Court Rolls Over, Plays Dead
      Aug 28, 2013

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennifergranick/2013/08/28/fisa-court-rolls-over-plays-dead/#2b26114763ae

      Excerpt:

      A newly declassified opinion shows FISA court “oversight” in the face of egregious, unconstitutional and potentially criminal government misconduct means nothing.

      Last week, thanks to the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s excellent FOIA work, we got the gift of a newly declassified 2011 FISA court opinion. The opinion finds that the government misled the FISA court for over three years about the details of its illegal and unconstitutional surveillance programs. These lies hid from the court the fact that every year, the NSA is collecting at least 56,000 emails – and possibly many more — between innocent Americans who have no foreign connections and are suspected of no crimes. That’s bad, but the worst part of it is, when the government’s lies were finally exposed the FISA court demanded … that NSA analysts read our private messages right away, so they can be used or deleted more quickly. In other words, the government got not a slap on the wrist, but a pat on the back.

      This was the third lie in less than three years that the FISA court had learned about. The judge described one such pattern of lying in Footnote 14 of this newly declassified opinion. There, the clearly outraged judge said the NSA had misrepresented so frequently and systematically how it conducted its program to collect and query Americans’ phone call records that the agency had utterly subverted the Court-mandated oversight regime for that program.

      So what did the court do when it found out it had been lied to, that purely domestic communications were fair game, that untold numbers of innocent people were being illegally spied on, and that all the safeguards in place needed to be rethought?

      Nothing, really. The court suggested the NSA should train its analysts to notice when their queries turned up an MCT – i.e., an Internet transaction containing multiple messages — and then to look carefully at all the by-catch. If existing procedures allowed them to use anything in those purely domestic messages that they were never supposed to have collected in the first place, great! Otherwise, only after collection and review, should the information be deleted. The NSA adopted this approach, and continues to blithely collect Internet transactions containing wholly domestic communications between innocent Americans to this day.

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  2. Doppler says:

    One of the best photos, Sundance. You could insert a painting in Barr’s background of Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

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  3. CharterOakie says:

    Let’s get it on already!

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  4. NightFlight says:

    If it doesn’t drop by the end of the month then I have to agree it won’t until after the re-up. Snake in the Grassley, is throwing shade of disgust in the C_A style of controlled opposition?

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  5. Larry Overby says:

    Do you remember the movie “Groundhog Day”?

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  6. The entire democrat impeachment charade is premised on a complete and utter denial that there is and has been a concerted effort to remove this president from day one using falsely predicated surveillance, covert human assets employed in a corrupt manner and unethical investigative and prosecutorial tactics.

    If they allow this president to get impeached without there being some OFFICIAL and AUTHORITATIVE analysis provided to the public of the hell has been going on in this country, BARR night as well flush the constitution down the crapper.

    Barr better take a few bible study lessons from his wife, do the right thing and STEP THE HELL UP AND BE A MAN.

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    • coolmamie says:

      I have wondered if everything could be true all at once – Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Loretta et.al. prosecuted for their crimes AND Trump losing his office by some means.

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  7. hokkoda says:

    The last time Grassley sent out a tweet like this, DOJ and the IG had to scramble to get a letter out to explain themselves. It’ll be interesting how, or if, DOJ tries to spin it this time.

    There is a not small twinge of “We are effing tired of you people,” that permeates the discussion today. I don’t know if the Department of (in)Justice fully grasps just how angry people are. They watch too much CNN and read too much Washington Post, and they drink their own bath water, and assume they can string people along.

    The worst part is that short of a cannonball to the chest of the political establishment in the DOJ, FBI and the IC related to the Trump coup, it will be spun as a “nothingburger”. The media and the Democrats will try to do that anyway, and it will work if there aren’t some perp walks.

    Heads need to roll. They need to roll publicly. They need to roll in the most stark and unmistakeable ways.

    I’ve never called a government agency to yell at people on the phone before, but I’m damn ready to start. Maybe the answer here isn’t just to take it out on the elected officials. Maybe the strategy needs to change to millions of Americans clogging the phones and emails at the Department of Justice. If they think they’re the “real” government, then it is time for the “real” government to understand that the pitchfork and guillotine crowd knows who is responsible for this mess.

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    • Your last paragraph is interesting and tantalizing.

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    • GP says:

      I share your anger…but the DOJ doesn’t care what you or I think. The DOj knows full well there will be no serious push back from “We the People”. I know if “feels” good to say “then it is time for the “real” government to understand that the pitchfork and guillotine crowd knows who is responsible for this mess.” But that’s another empty threat.

      You’re delusional. Just take a walk around your neighborhood, knock on a few doors and find out how many “Patriots” are willing to drop everything and descend on DC. Good luck. I’ve been talking to people for 2 years…very few realize what’s going on. If you can’t get your point out in under 30 seconds, people just start looking at their “smart” phone

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      • hokkoda says:

        I think because they’ve always been shielded from it. The protesters always show up at the WH or Congress or SCOTUS. I think it’s time they heard from the people they think they rule over. They are not afraid, and they need to be afraid like the politicians are afraid. Not physically, but in the sense that they are ALSO going to become electoral targets.

        A big part of Trump’s 2020 “drain the swamp” campaign should be that he’s going to fire thousands of political appointees, drive out bureaucrats who have stayed well past their welcome, promote generals who fight not these pencil pushers, etc.

        Just because it has never been done before doesn’t mean we can’t.

        The very same kinds of phone and email campaigns that have defeated gun control and amnesty should be deployed against DOJ and the rest of the cabal.

        They wanna say they’re in charge? Time to stop shielding our “dedicated public servants” (*eyeroll*) from public attention.

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        • lolli says:

          Isn’t there a planned march at dc on 11/29. I remember seeing the information, but nothing since.
          Anyone?

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          • hokkoda says:

            living in CO, hard to know. Honestly, I think phone calls, emails, posts on their department Facebook page, firing away at them on Twitter, etc. works pretty well too.

            I worked in government for almost 20 years. These people are totally insulated from the normal feedback mechanisms of a democracy. We need to remove the filters and go right at them.

            We’re going about this all wrong. Heads aren’t going to roll until they believe the costs of inaction are more than to just roll the necessary heads.

            Then you turn right around and call your congressman and senators and you tell them, “I just got off the phone with _____ some flunky at the Dept of Justice. I want you to know that I am angry about their incompetence and I want their budgets slashed.”

            Just hammer away at the bureaucracy. It’s not impenetrable.

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          • Whether there is a ‘planned march’ in D.C., on November 29th, it’s a ridiculous idea and should be aborted immediately with no additional time wasted towards its ‘planning’, should anyone actually be foolish enough to be laboring to achieve it.

            The Women’s March last month was not well attended, and media coverage was non-existent. If anyone believes that the citizenry will travel to D.C. in the early winter, over a Thanksgiving holiday weekend, AND on ‘Black Friday’ while Congress isn’t even THERE; then we Republicans truly are the party of ‘stupid’. If anyone believes there will be media coverage that supersedes the televised football games then we’ve left the party of ‘stupid’ and have enter into the realm of ‘delusional’.

            I probably shouldn’t hit the “Post Comment” button, as I know I’ve been cranky and pissed off, all afternoon. But sometimes, a kick in the ass serves as a wake-up call.

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      • Bill says:

        GP, I think you meant to say they start looking at their dumb phones.

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      • elsuperbus says:

        Who are you? I know it feels good to build yourself up on someone else’s anger, but some aren’t yet ready to roll over and play dead. You’ve been doing a pretty lousy job of talking to people for 2 years, if few realize what’s going on.

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    • Carrie says:

      What if we all call Pompeo? We think he’s on our side (gosh I will be crushed if he isn’t)and he has the power to do something about it..

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    • Zippy says:

      “I’ve never called a government agency to yell at people on the phone before, but I’m damn ready to start.”

      LOL, yeah, that’ll work.

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      • hokkoda says:

        You would be surprised at how thin skinned your average technocrat is.

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      • hokkoda says:

        Also, many of these agencies have complaint systems. TSA has one, I know because I’ve used it. They are required to follow up on complaints. Multiply that by tens of thousands and throw in jumping on their s**t on social media, email, and phone, and they have no choice but to listen…because you can’t tune out people at that scale.

        You don’t win a bureaucratic civil war by ignoring the bureaucracy and laughing them off. You win a bureaucratic civil war by using their own weapons against them. You use their own systems and procedures against them. If they have a complaints system, flood it.

        I’ll often post on my congressman’s facebook page. He might have something on there about veterans or some new school program, and I’ll go right on there and blister him about his vote on this or that. Lots of people read those comments and they do not go unheard by the politicians. Especially when the volume gets turned up.

        I won a court case once at the State level simply because I refused to hang up when the bureaucrat tried to blow me off. I kept elevating and elevating until the logjam broke loose. I knew they couldn’t hang up on me as long as I was respectful. Many calls are recorded for “quality assurance purposes” which means they can’t tell you off or speak rudely to you. So you keep pushing until you get to the person you want to talk to.

        They DEPEND on the filter, people like you who don’t get past the first voice they hear, so you have to take the filter away.

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        • This information is correct, and it’s good. “… I knew they couldn’t hang up on me as long as I was respectful. Many calls are recorded for “quality assurance purposes” which means they can’t tell you off or speak rudely to you. So you keep pushing until you get to the person you want to talk to.”

          What CAN happen is that *somehow* your phone call is dropped, and you’re disconnected. I can see a government technocrat uttering a well-rehearsed, “Hello… hello?” into the speaker of a phone that they know damn well no one is connected to, at the other end of the line. So—>

          Before the phone call advances, ask with whom you are speaking and for that person’s ID Number or File Number; ask if there is an extension number (in the unlikely event you are disconnected); ask for the name of the office division or the department branch you are speaking with, or will be transferred to; and BEFORE being transferred, get the actual number you’re being transferred to, and write it down (again, in case you are inadvertently disconnected– it saves a lot of time and you don’t have to repeat all the steps that got you to that particular person); lastly, use the name of the person with whom you are speaking often enough to ensure the bureaucrat is aware that YOU know who they are, and their cloak of anonymity has been somewhat pierced. (If nothing else, people react positively to hearing their own name. 🙂 )

          You can accomplish a LOT with phone calls, if you’re firm, polite, and persistent. The upside for you is that you can do this while wearing sweat pants and you don’t have to find a parking spot, before you can get started.

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  8. Pa Hermit says:

    Trying to do anything about altering “the swamp” is just like peeing against the wind! You don’t even get the chance to feel 5 pounds lighter and 10 years younger!!!

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    • ………and your shoes get wet.

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    • Green Bucket says:

      I hear ya, Pa, but don’t give up, not now, not ever!! We inherited what we thought was a free America, but now we know it’s been a lie for decades. President Trump has pulled the curtain back to expose them, and they don’t like it. The swamp is real, it’s deep and very dirty. We MUST win this battle if we are to save a free America.

      Light up the phones in DC – tell your Congresspeople and Senators that FISA must expire.
      https://contactsenators.com/senator-phone-numbers
      https://www.house.gov/representatives

      FISA has not made us safer, quite the opposite, now we live in a police state and we’re under constant surveillance. I know, all the alphabet agencies (FIB, CYA, DOIJ etc.) promised (pinky swear!) they would never spy on us if we gave them these tools. We are fools for believing ANYTHING they said. Never again…

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  9. Les Standard says:

    Our government has gone rogue

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  10. Rastus says:

    I know the law forbids us knowing, but I would like to know if a grand jury was ever called/summoned for Carter Page. A year’s worth of FISA warrant investigations. Barr and Durham know the answer and it would seem to prove it was all a lie if nothing ever came to fruition.

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    • ezpz2 says:

      I think Carter Page was used as an fbi/cia asset to give cover to spying on the Trump Campaign, Transition Team, and Administration.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I waffle on this but mostly feel the same way you do. My biggest clue: the guy continued to talk to the Trump team after he resigned his position due to being outed. I think he was the insurance policy Strzok and Page referred to. They both said in their testimony that the insurance policy was burning a source. Now he can never be used again. I think he was upset about it. That’s my theory at least. The timing is all right … the insurance policy text, the Yahoo News article about Carter Page outing him, his resignation, and then the FISA warrant was approved. And conveniently he was still calling the Trump team which allowed the spy boyzz to monitor all of the Trump team conversations as well as Trump’s conversations.

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        • ezpz2 says:

          And that goofy look he always had – as though he were mocking us.

          AND the fact that he sued the government for ONE DOLLAR ($1.00)!!

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        • J.Thomas says:

          I am in agreement. I think that Carter Page was an asset who was burned for the insurance policy. Something is off there that I can reconcile with the idea that he was unaware that he would be burned, was left in the cold, and then had to figure out a way to swim out of the wreck. His public persona and subsequent lawsuits are his way to swim out. Just an idea, but one that makes sense to me given the fact that he was an active FBI informant with Russian ties (the perfect type to manufacture crimes from ala Mifsud).

          I have also been of the of the opinion that there was a joint intelligence Task Force utilized to come at the Trump team from all angles. I believe that some of those caught up in this may have been spies who turned down the CIA (Popadapolous) for various reasons. I think that Popadapolous could have been groomed specifically for that purpose and then was set up when he was too smart for them them to dirty him up.

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          • covfefe999 says:

            That’s another one. How the heck did that guy become some international expert in anything at such a young age? According to his wikipedia entry he finished his schooling in 2010 … and just 5 or 6 years later he’s Mr International Energy Advisor?

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  11. JohnCasper says:

    The so-called USA Freedom Act is Orwellian named, like War is Peace and Freedom is Slavery, as it is anti-USA and anti-Freedom.

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  12. guybee55 says:

    Trump spoke today at the Economic Club in NY. He said as a throw away, that everything was going to work out the way it should. I took that to mean that we need to be patient while the entire unraveling of the deep state begins.

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  13. gingergal says:

    Is Grassley on our team?

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  14. iwasthere says:

    LOL, that picture of Whay !

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  15. RJ says:

    Do you see any of the major players in the game to get rid of Trump sweatlng? Hillary teases she may run again, the others go about their daily lives with no cares in the world, they are, after all, our elites. You should be grateful they even worked in government…you plebes know nothing of service (unless you were/are in our military) according to these bums!

    I am now employing an old slogan: Hope for the best, plan for the worst. I am really tired of having my chain pulled by these people.

    Can’t Barr understand how our side is now rapidly losing patience and trust? If not, then he is an idiot!

    Unless, of course, the President plans on giving us a Christmas gift we all will never forget…that I am willing to wait for, but give me hints that this Christmas won’t be like any other in recent membory!

    Is that so hard to ask for?

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    • butch cassidy says:

      RJ, I don’t see Trump sweating. And I’m with gingergal here, just what is Grassleys’ motivation in this and other tweets? He gave up his chairmanship to Graham where as if he had kept the chair he could have held hearings and maybe forced some issues.Very curious.

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      • mimbler says:

        It could be that the plan is to talk big and do nothing, until people catch on, then pass the baton. Lather rinse and repeat. Now people have caught on that Grassley’s replacement Graham is all talk and no action so he passes the baton in slow motion to the new guy to take in 2020. Meanwhile, no one will expect Graham to do anything as lame duck (a la Paul Ryan).

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      • Sherri Young says:

        He gets the chair back in 2020. I think he termed out as chair. It may have been a self-imposed limit. He is now chair of Finance until 2020. Cannot hold two chairs at once.

        Having Grassley lead the Finance Committee is a good thing. He has been around a long time and knows how to get things done. Having him there is especially important to getting PDJT’s trade initiatives through the senate. Grassley is not a rubber stamp, but he and PDJT can work together without big problems, IMO. If you search on “Grassley TPP”, you’ll see Grassley has reservations about pulling out of the TPP for fear of a crushing loss of ag exports. He seems to be having his fears allayed as these various bilateral trade agreements are worked through. My guess is that Grassley is a big reason why PDJT wants to sign the US-China ag deal in Iowa if possible.

        Looking around, I ran into an old Politico article that said in 2011, Grassley stood in the Senate chamber and called on AG Eric Holder to fire Lanny Breuer. Of course, Lanny Breuer and Eric Holder both being Covington & Burling guys, Holder did not fire Breuer.

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  16. Wilddog says:

    Lawfare is what the game is, and it’s disgusting. World class, lowlife, dirtbag communist lawyers are in charge. They are making a Schiff-show out of our government, and Soros is pulling the strings. It’s better for Soros when the government investigates Trump than his corruption.

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    • Ray Runge says:

      AND the current time juncture has the potential for Ciarimella and Vindman to be hung up by their ears to squeal.. Schiff’s excessive Star Chamber is actually serving to expose some bad guys and LawFare is arrogant enough to cooperate.

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  17. SR says:

    IG can make any report and no one cares until there are indictments. The fake msm will not cover any IG reports until indictments. The impeachment is all about uni-party and deep state bargaining chip against indictments. They know PTrump will leave after 2024 and he has nothing to do with DC politics but these people has to live here under terror of deep state.

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  18. jrapdx says:

    There’s no shortage of guesswork, but none of us deplorables really knows what’s happening with the IG, FISA report, etc.

    It’s logical, if cynical, to assume the report is being delayed to quash reasons to impede reauthorizing the program with all its potential for abuse. Possibly we’ll be given an early Christmas present if the report is issued sooner vs. later.

    Though I’m not holding my breath waiting for it. Meantime I can just imagine the infighting going on among the principle players in the drama, like kids kicking each other under the table at the big holiday dinner. Of course that never fooled mom who’d smile forcibly and warn ’em under dire penalty to stop their stupid behavior.

    Where’s mom when we need her…

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  19. Zorro says:

    Hillary says she is under serious pressure to run. Must not be any Clinton funded connections to Fushion GPS in the IG report.

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    • Chelsea must need a job and is putting the pressure on HRC.
      Out of curiosity, does anyone think Chelsea will turn into her mother when she gets older and be thrown into a van like a slab of beef? Asking for someone else. Ha!

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Wow, she doesn’t want to run, but is under “serious pressure”? /s
      The pay-for-play “donations” to the clinton fund aren’t coming in any more, because the clintons can’t deliver any “play” for pay?

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      • Juniper55 says:

        Perhaps she is being “persuaded” to run precisely because so much money WAS given to her and now they want it back, or are demanding that she come through on their behalf. Can you say “quid pro quo?”

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        • BeaU Geste says:

          You posit that those who “donated” millions to her “foundation” think hillary sold her “favors” with a 4-year warranty. But hillary asserts that she sold “as is”. They went into arbitration with the AAA (Arkancide Arbitration Association), where it was ruled that hillary had to run again to fulfil the 4-year warranty….?
          Certainly plausible….

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  20. SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

    The Trump(!!!!!!!!!!) Administration isn’t handing out the info? Makes no sense. There must be something else. Most probably we are using FISA to get to the bad guys too.
    Why reveal too much to congress if our guy(!) Barr and Durham are running criminal investigations.

    The big question is,.. why is Sundance and others attacking nonstop, insinuating all the time, something bad about Barr and Wray but NEVER attacking the one person responsible for them? – President Trump? Makes no sense.

    You can’t cry all day about Barr and co. and not cry about Trump.
    At some point it’s an either or. Trump must be totally incompetent(I doubt it) if these guys are incompetent or at worst bad guys. If this fails it’s nor Barr’s or Wray’s fault,.. it’s Trump’s fault.

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  21. Jimmy says:

    The cynic in me would imagine Hannity, Solomon, Carter in August 2020: “My sources tell me that the report will be out before the election! This is great news for the Pence campaign. Unfortunately, no sign of Durham or Huber’s investigations but my sources say that almost certainly they will conclude in 2021. So, we can look forward to…”

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  22. Elric VIII says:

    Agreed. Releasing the IG report before reauthorization of the USA Freedom Act would open up an ugly can of worms. Things could get very – interesting.

    That being said, if the NSA collects meta data in bulk, why the hell can’t the government shut down all the robocallers?

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  23. Rather, Not says:

    Call your senators, ask them to deny reauthorization until the abuses are understood and publicized. They want to hide the ball, reauthorize, then let the corruption fall out, and it is all ‘old news’ by the time reauthorization comes up again. Don’t let them play the game. Let them know that there is extensive abuse (Collyer/Boasberg), so extensive that the IC is hiding the extent of that abuse (IG delay). At best, give them a 30 day reauthorization to get everything out, and then vote again.

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    • Can’t seem to like your comment, but I tried!
      I just called both of my senators and asked them not to vote for reauthorization of the USA Freedom Act until the American public has had the opportunity to review the findings in the Horowitz report.

      Everyone else should do the same, even if your senators are Democrats.

      Let them know we are watching!

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  24. Is it just me or does it seem like today was Grassley’s turn to grow a pair, just like it was Linda Graham’s turn to grow a pair during the Kavanaugh hearing, and will be someone else’s turn to grow a pair next time, before they all slink back into the swamp. They have to act like strong conservatives in front of the camera every 6 months or so for campaign ads in the next election. I don’t trust any of them anymore.

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  25. lolli says:

    I am still trying to figure out how Barr’s precrime unit he is establishing plays in to this.

    Treepers, Sundance, anyone?
    This is worse than the patriot act, it is for us citizens.

    I know I have posted this before, but this seems relevant to me. Maybe not.
    Just have not heard much on it.
    If you search Barr precrime Bill, there are multiple articles.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/33885-ag-bill-barr-quietly-reveals-plan-to-establish-federal-pre-crime-unit

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    • SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

      It’s not Barr’s! It’s Trump’s! He’s responsible for his administration.

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    • jus wundrin says:

      Guilty until proven innocent. Where have I heard that before? Arent Barr and mewler good friends?

      Guilty due to the fact that you own a firearm.

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    • lolli says:

      I guess my question is, do they need to reauthorize the USA Freedom Act with this in place.

      They can make a big deal about canceling it and we still have Barr’s precrime spying unit in place and making all their spying on citizens legal.

      Link up above or look up Bill Barr precrime unit, or bill…several will come up

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  26. John Davis says:

    There will be some compelling allegations and quite possibly several factual revelations of “unauthorized” or “professional misbehavior”.
    Line up for the coming administrative ass-chewing and a stern look to make certain this doesn’t happen again. You know, where they get caught doing this kinda crap.

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  27. President Trump is on record – on several occasions – saying that, although it is absolutely within his power as Chief Executive to do so, he has not inquired about whatever AG Barr is doing with all this.

    The President ought to pick up the damn phone today and ask his constitutionally inferior officer, his cabinet member and the guy who is sworn to uphold the law, WTF is going on and DEMAND the AG inform the nation.

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    • freespeechfanatic says:

      We’re so locked in passive mode, so scrupulously conscious and concerned about what the media will say, I wonder how we can ever bust loose and start dishing it out. We’re so cowed we’re handling over transcripts of the President’s telephone calls. When has this ever happened? When will it end?

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    • Samiam1015 says:

      @Clivus – Maybe because Schiff will demand release of the conversation and call it obstruction?

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      • Rhoda R says:

        That would be my first guess. My second guess would be that the President wants to make it very clear that AG Barr is following his own path and not one dictated by the President. He is protecting the validity of the various investigations.

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  28. G. Alistar says:

    He may be old but Senator Grassley, R, Iowa didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. “ Is the current Inspector General report on FISA abuse being delayed due to the need for congress to reauthorize the very same programs the IG is about to criticize?” NAILED IT!!!

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  29. 1riot1ranger says:

    SD might be right. But I personally think that FISA could be tightened; lots of stuff to pass muster. My opinion is someone is cooperating and it takes time to corroborate that cooperation

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  30. freespeechfanatic says:

    Imagine how obvious the “game” must be for Chuck Grassley to notice and comment on it.

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  31. Fromseatoshinningsea says:

    Someone has to organize and galvanize the Patriots. It is almost upon us. Understand the purge in Iceland, almost time. No holds Barred.

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  32. trapper says:

    The problem is the very existence of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Knowing human nature, how did we ever believe that the FISC and its procedures would NOT be used to spy on American citizens for political purposes? FISA effectively established the domestic Surveillance State.

    Short of abolishing FISA (and it may be necessary to do so), one measure might be passing a reauthorization with modifications to the act requiring that all FISA warrant applications have a suspected criminal violation predicate, and meet the same probable cause standard, as in every other criminal case as conditions for issuance of FISA warrants. It should also make it statutorily clear that FISA warrants are NO HOP warrants. Got another suspect? Go back to the FISA court and get another warrant, just like FBI/DOJ has to do in criminal cases. That would leave FISC judges as nothing more than District Court judges that have obtained security clearances. And short of ALL of the above, just let it expire. The whole thing can be run through the DC District with local rules for case assignment that require security clearance for certain types of cases. Not rocket science.

    What makes it streamlined and easy to go after terrorists also has made it streamlined and easy to spy on American citizens. In effect, FISA abolished the Fourth Amendment. Time to remedy that. Grassley’s a smart guy with smart staff. Get on it.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Thee needs to be a “Public Defender” Office which is independent of the DOJ, with authority to file motions for sanctions on DOJ lawyers and liars-under-oath. And to file motions to limit the scope of the ridiculous 2-hop” rule that in the case of a political campaign authorizes spying on thousands-to-millions of people. The “Public Defender” Office would have authority to petition Congress and the Supreme Court for impeachment/removal of FISC Judges who do not protect the 4th Amendment (which is their PRIMARY purpose). The Public Defender Office would be appointed by the President, and fireable by the president, with obligation to report to the President and Congress, on the performance of the FISC and DOJ.
      If there was a “Public Defender” Office, the political nature of the carter page FISA would have been immediately recognized. (It was obvious to the complicit FISC, which should not have “gone along to get along”). The “Public Defender” Office would have sought a hearing to cross-examine the FBI/DOJ oath-signers about why they were spying on carter page, (when their real target was PDJT), the verification of the phony allegations, etc. There would have been a challenge to the “2-hop-to-millions of unknown US citizens” travesty. The “Public Defender” would have filed a Motion for sanctions against the DOJ lawyers for withheld information, and for lying, for using a fake “pee pee” dossier, and for entrapment of papadopolous. A FISC Judge would know the “Public Defender” was able to contact the president, congress and the SC to appeal any phony business. The crooked FISA Warrant would not have even been issued.

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  33. dwpender says:

    Grassley is in a position to do something about this. Senator, how about tweeting: “I won’t support reauthorization and will do everything in my power to block it until the IG Report has been publicly released in overwhelmingly unredacted form,”

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  34. Midnight Rambler says:

    Good post Clivus! I love our President but this is HIS DOJ and HIS FBI. I’m tired of the excuses and the 712D chess. Pick up the phone and tell them…by God, that report is to be done and turned in by next Monday. Period. No BS, no tears…no “..yeah but”. Monday. Handle it.

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  35. Doppler says:

    I’m reminded here of Bill Binney’s story. The former NSA Technical Director who designed “Thin Thread,” a communications program that allowed NSA, through monitoring connections within the internet, to track who was communicating with whom. Being sworn to uphold the constitution, he designed it to comply with the 4th Amendment, so that the privacy of communications would not be accessed, unless a warrant was issued, but the fact of who contacted whom could be captured and stored and used to sleuth out who people of interest were in contact with. They had it up and working before 9/11, they could show who the terrorists were in touch with, but the NSA refused to use it, in favor of a more robust program, non-4th amendment compliant, that would download everything in every digital communication sent over the internet and store it for access at your leisure. Here’s an interview of him for 2014:
    http://mediaroots.org/nsa-veterans-expose-shocking-history-of-us-illegal-surveillance-program/

    And they made a short documentary about him called the Good American.

    I believe that technology can be built to facilitate all the conveniences of the internet, but that allows people to protect their privacy. I’m not a techie, but I think it just requires good encryption, and infrastructure designed to protect privacy, as opposed to facilitate it. But the problem is that collecting and storing all that data is so valuable to those who have access to it, whether to spy, to look for crime, for insider trading, or for “smart” advertising tailored to each individual. There appears to be an unholy alliance between the tech companies and elements within the intelligence community to milk that value, for money, influence, power, prurient interest, whatever. We rely upon our Congress, our intelligence agencies, and the Executive branch and the Courts, to protect us, but the veil of “national security” blocks out public accountability when this unholy alliance prefers to hide in the darkness.

    If Trump succeeds in draining the swamp, he should add to his campaign promises the pledge to work with Congress to enact laws to require technology providers to ensure privacy of communications, to tax the exploitation of invasions of privacy, and a slew of laws that will preserve to posterity the blessings of liberty, including the right of people to be secure in their private communications.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Doppler, good post. I’d add that there should be an explicit limitation that obtaining a spy warrant does not excuse prior (illegal/criminal) spying. One alleged purpose of the crooked FISA Warrants is to excuse illegal spying already carried out. This is done by “law enforcement” for “parallel construction”, fromeven proper spying, for admissible evidence. But there is no reason that later FISA warrant should excuse prior ILLEGAL spying.

      The law should be changed to require disclosure to all US Citizens who have been spied on illegally, that their 4th Amendment (and other rights) have been violated, and to give them compensatory money from the illegal-spy-ers budget.

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  36. 6x47 says:

    The game? The game is to give the Democrats in the House time to craft some articles of impeachment, so that anything coming out of the IG report or the Durham investigation will be represented as retaliation and abuse of power.

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    • Truth seeker says:

      Bingo.

      Even if Durham comes up with expolsive stuff, the public narrative has already been set.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      It can be presented that way but the Horowitz investigation has been going on for so long that such an excuse could (and should) be laughed off. Let’s stop worrying about how the left will interpret things and plan on some aggressive action for a change. Playing defense never won a game or a war.

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  37. twingirls (@twingirls49) says:

    Snagged this from a previous comment by anthonydog…if true it explains a lot of things about our intelligence community and their necessity for the coup. Must read!
    THE HAMMER IS THE KEY TO THE COUP – The American Report |
    https://theamericanreport.org/2019/11/10/the-hammer-is-the-key-to-the-coup/

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  38. scrap1ron says:

    Does anyone still believe domestic spying didn’t occur until the Freedom Act?

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  39. A2 says:

    Senator Grassley just said, “ 加油”!

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  40. xenosonice says:

    I still love this exchange between lil’ Georgie Stephanopoulos and Trump:

    LG: “The FBI director says it’s a crime for someone not to report to the FBI if someone tries to give them foreign dirt.”

    VSGPDJT: “The FBI director is WRONG.”

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  41. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    Grassley has become Fake News

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  42. Life Coach says:

    What if….and it requires a leap of faith, but what if….the Trump Admin needs this reauthorize because it’s precisely what they’ve been using to spy on Brennan/Flapper/Coney/Schiff & all the conspirators in the various coup attempts?

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  43. Jimmy says:

    Hannity, February 2021: “… President Buttigeig’s AG Kamala Harris has shut down the Durham investigation and sealed the IG Horowitz report forever. But my sources tell me that the Huber investigation, while it has not been heard from in two years, might be proceding unabated, so…”

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  44. fordpeterson says:

    Clinton is in the UK selling her new book about Brave Shills and expounding on how corrupt it is for the UK to hold up the release of the UK version of the Mueller report until after the 12/15 election in the UK. Maybe our 5-eyes partner is demanding that the DOJ keep this under wraps because the same details will expose the spies.

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  45. L4grasshopper says:

    I assume that the Freedom Act needs to be voted on to be reauthorized.

    Ergo: if Grassley is serious, he can see to it that reauthorization doesn’t get a vote until after the IG Report is released AND digested.

    If that means a gap in authorization…..so be it.

    Man up, Sen Grassley!

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  46. Parker Longbaugh says:

    President Trump is not a forgiving man. He can and will excuse enthusiastic actions done in advancing a legitimate agenda but will not allow criminal acts to go unpunished.

    They attempted a coup. They are traitors and will be held accountable.

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  47. Ray says:

    Still havn’t see an arrest to get some credible flips and witnesses. If they are serious it would have happened by now. It’s still all I see. The usual playbook, play for time. Some other reason that seems reasonable will come up to delay once again.

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  48. Zorro says:

    Pardon me, but shouldn’t it be “What the game be”?

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  49. jus wundrin says:

    On another front of many:

    Rep. Dan Bishop Names Alleged Impeachment ‘Whistleblower’: ‘He’s Not Voldemort’

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/12/rep-dan-bishop-names-alleged-impeachment-whistleblower-hes-not-voldemort/

    Good job, Mr. Bishop.

    Has a rudimentary spine developed within the repub party?????

    This could get interesting…..

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    • Dan Bishop is the newly elected Representative from North Carolina’s 9th District, who PDJT campaigned for with rallies, and was instrumental in getting him elected.

      That being said, Representative Bishop was elected September 17th, 2019; and has been a US Congressman for less than 60 days. No one from the DS has had sufficient time to gather anything incriminatory on Bishop, yet.

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