October 23rd – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1007

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913 Responses to October 23rd – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1007

  1. Jenevive says:

    Yahoo running an article. they are concerned if POTUS
    impeached and senate has trial he will turn it into a circus
    who can stop him? The reality TV star..point out the stunt
    he pulled bringing those women of Clintons to one of the debates.

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    • Bert Darrell says:

      Yahoo is the New York Times with considerable less viewers but the same amount of lying. They call themselves OATH now, but they are anti-Trump 365/24/7. They are one of the latest offspring of infamous fake news media and make no effort to hide it.

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    • yy4u says:

      OH I HOPE SO. If they bring him to trial, I hope he pulls out all the stops and shows the world just what a ridiculous clown show our government has become.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Roger Duroid says:

      If the Dems and uniparty are foolish enough to do it, it will be spectacular, the likes of which they can’t even imagine. Obama, biden, little hunter, shifty shift, etc all called as witnesses and examined for days by the meanest and sharpest attorney’s money can buy. PDJT has UNLIMITED time and money to make all of them wish they’d never been born,

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      • Ellis says:

        The democrats and some republicans are still treating Trump as if he is a politician. He doesn’t need DC. He is here to save the country and if they try to bring him down I have no doubt he will burn the entire place to the ground as he walks away.

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    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      I have to admit a little part of me hopes it happens so I can take time off and watch what PDJT does to the clowns in the circus. He is the Ringmaster so it would be a glorious thing to witness.

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    • Ellis says:

      They are right to be concerned and there is nothing that could be done to stop it. that’s why I believe he is not going to be impeached by the house.

      I really believe Trump wants a trial in the senate. Imagine Obama under oath on live tv?

      The best strategy for the democrats would be to drag this out for as long as possible, however there are signs that the public has grown weary and are turning against the democrats, particularly in swing states as indicated by the NYT of all places. This was a huge political mistake by Pelosi. I am more convinced every day Trump played the democrats.

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      • Nordic Breed says:

        For PDJT, regardless of which way this goes, it’s win-win. Impeachment? Nail their a$$es to the wall. No impeachment but continued kabuki in the House? The American public in growing numbers gets PO’d and moves to support PDJT while the Demonrats become more and more disfavored and weak. They have nothing to run on in 2020. Even if Hilliary runs, people are tired of her and she will do poorly.

        I’m praying for the implosion of the Demonrat party. Care to join me?

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    • Nobodysfool says:

      If there is a Senate ‘trial’, Deplorables will converge on DC, the likes of which never seen since the Trump Inauguration. If he goes on trial, we go with him. Every step of the way.

      Hats off to Gaetz, Gohmert, Scalise and others that ramrodded Adam Schiff’s little secret playhouse group meeting. Stompy Feet Pencil Neck stormed out because the Repub’s gained entry without secret decoder rings and they didn’t know the special password, door knock and handshake! The nerve!

      Keep up the heat, boys. Stay in their faces. Keep demanding an open door, public investigation. Trump doesn’t back down, you better not either.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Every day of this trial would be the highest rated TV event. The Corrupt Deepstate/Uniparty would be exposed for all to see. So, I guess it wouldn’t be broadcast.

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  2. fanbeav says:

    I think President Trump should remind RINO’s like McConnell and Graham, that he was elected by 63+ million people. McConnell was elected by 250,000 and Graham was elected by 672,000 in their last elections.

    They think their power in the Senate gives them carte blanche to dictate foreign policy. Now both of them I don’t believe have President Trump’s back in the Senate when it comes to impeachment. I can just see Schumer and McConnell plotting against our great Lion!

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    • jrapdx says:

      Both Senators are up for reelection. Seems to me they need to watch their step. I’m acquainted with family-related folks in Kentucky. Down-to-earth people who don’t take kindly to liars, traitors and the like. Tells me that Mitch and Lindsey get with the MAGA program, support PDJT or quite likely face the wrath of voters.

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      • Koot Katmando says:

        The key is how many republican senators are not up for reelection this time. By my count there are more than 20 that are safe. I keep hearing there will never be 20 R vote to remove. I think there very well could be. With Mitch and company leading the effort but pretending to support PDT. It will bare minimum support with them condoning R to vote to remove.

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        • linda4298 says:

          First there has to be a vote for impeachment, IMO Nancy won’t call the vote, she doesn’t want R’s to have any power, so the rest is a moot point,McConnell said yesterday, I don’t know how long a senate trial would go on, trolling Nancy, could go all the way into the campaign, she doesn’t want that.

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        • TPW says:

          I would imagine a Senate vote on impeachment would look very much like McStain vote…

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        • jrapdx says:

          Of course if these “Republicans” vote to remove the President, 2 or 4 years from now I’m quite sure the voters in those states will still be outraged that their Senator(s) did so. Not-so-cold anger of the electorate translates to getting primaried or defeated in the general election.

          There’s high probability impeachment won’t happen given Pelosi/Schiff’s failures to marshal support for it. Even Democrats in Congress will feel the heat opposing impeachment. And with the President stepping up the pressure it’s only going to get harder to depose him.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      806K people voted for McConnell in 2014. He won by 16 % points.

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      • Free Speech says:

        I have a lot of family in Kentucky. He is not popular there, especially in Eastern Kentucky where they feel he has bs-ed the miners and gotten nothing done. Makes you wonder why Kentucky was one of the first places Judicial Watch sued to purge the voter rolls. Not all vote fraud is by Democrats. McCain was hated in Arizona yet kept getting elected somehow.

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  3. Reserved55 says:

    CPUSA, keep it up.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Eric says:

      These people are nuts.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Bill says:

        Literally insane. 2+2=22 to them. It’s fascinating and frightening talking with full blown leftists. You can lay out every inch of every step of absolutely proven factually data points in a process. And when you slow walk them to the end, an end that is irrefutable, they just say “that’s not right, that’s not how I see it.”

        Well no S–t that’s not how they see it. There is a screw lose in their brains that makes all common sense neurons fire into their ass, while in turn making their flatulence particles flow to their brains. Their brains are filled with hot air.

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      • Your Tour Guide says:

        Look up both of them’s articles. They’ve spent at
        least the last 3 years lobbying mortars at anything
        remotely Trump or conservative.

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    • jrapdx says:

      Sure, I’m certain eating pizza in a SCIF is a serious violation of fantasy US law as invented by Democrats on the spot. In Alice in Wonderland style, the rules change by the minute or per mood of Schiff and other miscreants.

      And BTW who the hell is Leavitt making such demands? No doubt just another shiftless media shill, so shut up already…

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    • northerncanuck says:

      I’m of the thought that those who were already *in* that SCIF before the “invasion” should be questioned to determine if they themselves are serving a foreign intelligence service.

      They certainly are not serving a ‘domestic service’ very well. And as far as “intelligence” goes, well….

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  4. linda4298 says:

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  5. Troublemaker10 says:

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  6. meadowlarkspring says:

    There’s a lot of pro Biden folks in places of power.

    Ukrainian leader felt Trump pressure before taking office
    By DESMOND BUTLER and MICHAEL BIESECKER
    an hour ago
    https://www.apnews.com/b048901b635f423db49a10046daaf8a8

    -snip-

    Volodymyr Zelenskiy gathered a small group of advisers on May 7 in Kyiv for a meeting that was supposed to be about his nation’s energy needs. Instead, the group spent most of the three-hour discussion talking about how to navigate the insistence from Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, for a probe and how to avoid becoming entangled in the American elections, according to three people familiar with the details of the meeting.

    -snip-

    -snip-

    The May 7 meeting included two of his top aides, Andriy Yermak and Andriy Bogdan, the people said. Also in the room was Andriy Kobolyev, head of the state-owned natural gas company Naftogaz, and Amos Hochstein, an American who sits on the Ukrainian company’s supervisory board. Hochstein is a former diplomat who advised Biden on Ukraine matters during the Obama administration.

    -snip-

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    • meadowlarkspring says:

      Most of this article is noise. The section “The Energy Secretary” is useful. See the full section at the link.

      Profit, not politics: Trump allies sought Ukraine gas deal
      By DESMOND BUTLER, MICHAEL BIESECKER and RICHARD LARDNER
      October 7, 2019

      https://www.apnews.com/d7440cffba4940f5b85cd3dfa3500fb2

      THE ENERGY SECRETARY

      -snip-

      In May, Rick Perry traveled to Kyiv to serve as the senior U.S. government representative at the inauguration of the county’s new president.

      In a private meeting with Zelenskiy, Perry pressed the Ukrainian president to fire members of the Naftogaz advisory board. Attendees left the meeting with the impression that Perry wanted to replace the American representative, Amos Hochstein, a former diplomat and energy representative who served in the Obama administration, with someone “reputable in Republican circles,” according to someone who was in the room.

      Perry’s push for Ukraine’s state-owned natural gas company Naftogaz to change its supervisory board was first reported by Politico.

      -snip-

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      • All Hype says:

        Shocking, yet another American with close ties to Joe Biden on the board of a Ukrainian energy company.

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      • meadowlarkspring says:

        Biden’s candidacy had been announced on April 25. In my opinion, Zelensky should have asked Hochstein (American representative) to step away from the Ukranian gas company board when Joe Biden announced his candidacy. Oh well!

        The Kyiv Post ran the May 1 New York Times article which quoted Amos Hochstein.

        “I was in almost every single meeting that Vice President Biden had with President Poroshenko, I was on every trip, and I was on most of the phone calls, and there was never a discussion about his son, or Burisma,” Amos J. Hochstein told the Times.

        The NYT’s article was favorable to Biden and negative toward Trump.

        New York Times: Biden faces conflict of interest questions that are being promoted by Trump and allies
        By New York Times.
        May 2

        https://www.kyivpost.com/world/new-york-times-biden-faces-conflict-of-interest-questions-that-are-being-promoted-by-trump-and-allies.html

        Later in the summer….there was more detail added from Amos Hochstein in a New Yorker article.

        A Reporter at Large
        July 8 & 15, 2019 Issue
        Will Hunter Biden Jeopardize His Father’s Campaign?
        Joe Biden’s son is under scrutiny for his business dealings and tumultuous personal life.
        By Adam Entous
        July 1, 2019

        https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign

        -snip-

        In December, 2015, as Joe Biden prepared to return to Ukraine, his aides braced for renewed scrutiny of Hunter’s relationship with Burisma. Amos Hochstein, the Obama Administration’s special envoy for energy policy, raised the matter with Biden, but did not go so far as to recommend that Hunter leave the board. As Hunter recalled, his father discussed Burisma with him just once: “Dad said, ‘I hope you know what you are doing,’ and I said, ‘I do.’ ”

        -snip-

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  7. Troublemaker10 says:

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  8. Sherri Young says:

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  9. cheering4america says:

    Just the fact that no Republicans are allowed to be present at Schiff’s sham hearing means that this whole operation is merely a political partisan meeting, it might as well be a meeting of the DNC.

    What it is NOT is the United States House having a meeting, or even the “Intelligence” Committee of the US House or the “Judiciary” Committee of the US House.

    And this partisan and political meeting is in furtherance of three years of political machinations that have everything to do with power and NOTHING to do with helping run our government.

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  10. Sherri Young says:

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  11. Libertybella says:

    MARCH ON WASHINGTON… We need a public figure to promote it and help organize it….can we all agree on who the best person would be for this and then ALL OF US contact them en masse and persuade them to do it?

    Liked by 3 people

  12. Bert Darrell says:

    Ad Rem: why is my post, which included a link to the video showing McCain and Graham receiving awards from Ukraine’s president Poroshenko for “received favors”, not showing up?
    Please, see if it ended up in the in “bin”. Thank you.

    Liked by 1 person

  13. Reserved55 says:

    The sheeple.

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    • Nigella says:

      Bunk… Don’t need to read this stuff here…

      Liked by 1 person

    • Sherri Young says:

      Oh good grief. Those people are accusing Trump of orchestrating a seditious conspiracy.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      Fakenews is now up to “four people familiar with the matter” as the sources. Pathetic.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Due Gonzalez says:

      This is exactly why I called Senators Graham and McConnell today. I wanted them to know that millions of Americans are watching this travesty of justice. Senator McConnell voicemail was full so I emailed. I was able to get through to Senator Graham. If you haven’t already, please consider calling these Senators and yours as well to let them know just how much support this President and won’t remain silent during this secret star chamber sham. I also emailed Senator Mo Brooks and thanked him for standing up for what is right today. They need to know just how many people have their backs.

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      • Jim Smith says:

        I called McConnell and Graham today. You can leave a message for McConnell at the Louisville office. 502-582-6304. Got a live person. Call now!

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      • Bert Darrell says:

        Don’t count on Graham. He’s not a friend of PDJT. The video I posted earlier about him and McCain receiving medals from the former Ukrainian dictator was blocked by Word Press.

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      • Libertybella says:

        I emailed McConnell and Graham…and several times..and i wasnt at all nice…just so tired of all the corruption…

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      • Due Gonzalez says:

        Oops. Mo Brooks is my Congressman. I am stuck with Senator Jones. I have written both before during the Obamacare fiasco. Mo Brooks sent me a long personalized email. I was very impressed. Jones was a slimy snake trying to walk both sides of the fence at the same time.

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    • linda4298 says:

      No he didn’t, they told Potus what they planned to do, and he said ok.

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  14. L4grasshopper says:

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  15. Troublemaker10 says:

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    • rich33y says:

      If they do it every single day to halt Shiff’s hearings, then they can say they are fighting.

      If today was a one time photo op, then the Republicans did not grow a spine.

      Let’s see what tomorrow brings.

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  16. Reserved55 says:

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  17. SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

    John Thune – Nevertrumper anti American. PRIMARY
    There shouldn’t be any of these in red states. What’s going on in South Dakota?

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    • It’s 5 O’clock Somewhere says:

      I have been saying that for years! What a giant turd….I live in Gods Fly over country and we prefer it that way……bring on the blizzards…..nature’s way of purging😈

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  18. Troublemaker10 says:

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  21. Sherri Young says:

    Puts together a few things about the whistleleaker and also Adam Schiff’s staff and timing.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Reserved55 says:

      That’s the luncheon Greg Rubini referencesin his threads.

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  22. Somebody's Gramma says:

    Trump’s pinned tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187063301731209220
    “The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats. Watch out for them, they are human scum!”

    I howled out loud. This President is so AWESOME!!!!!

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  23. wtd says:

    Did you know VP Pence’s brother is member of Congress? He’s sitting on
    the closed-door impeachment depositions. I wrote about it.

    Liked by 2 people

    • rashomon says:

      Yes, and he reportedly was one of the members who voted for impeaching our president. Forgive me if I am wrong, but too much is being rattled by the media to get a straight story. and his office phones are full.

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  24. One Voice says:

    With Pres. Trump’s tweet today about the Never Trump Rino’s, I get the sense that Mitch has told him that he and the other RINOs will support the impeachment. It wouldn’t surprise me that Pres. Trump told this to Matt Gaetz & others, which resulted in today’s actions.

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  25. Perot Conservative says:

    Article on CNN today says Trudeau suffered a humiliating defeat.

    New Democratic Party of Canada says NAFTA not a good idea.

    Average minority leader serves only 2 years.

    “Down but not out, Trudeau may want to start his second term with a reshuffle of his inner circle — installing political sages who are more adept at optics and keeping their leader out of harm’s way. “The problem with the Trudeau inner circle is they drink too much of their own Kool-Aid,” Ottawa-based political consultant Yaroslav Baran told me.”

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  26. Reserved55 says:

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  28. kay says:

    Obummer made a deal with Saudis to get into Harvard for a
    am 8 mil. donation to the college…. since he had no qualifications
    to get in on his own. He had his files locked so nobody could check.
    Two Iowa college students went to prison for opening his files.
    He used stolen ID from Ohio deceased person. He claimed foreign
    exchange status to get accepted once. His mother was not admited
    into the Hawaiian hospital…..and had no records except fraudulent
    computer photoshoped copy of someone else’s birth certificate.

    And YET THE DEMS PUSHED HIM INTO THE PRESIDENCY!!!
    Why? Did the Saudis have an interest in his election? WAS THIS A
    QUID PRO QUO FOR BOTH OF THEM??

    And why the silence about everything? WHY?

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    • Publius2016 says:

      was not aware of the “students” but know there was a fire that “destroyed” files…also know the birth certificate presented was fake…more likely Deep State plant than Saudi plant…possible funds came via Saudi Arabia…there was an entire generation of politicians who fit Obama profile…the key is that at each step of ascension, Obama had “scandal” destroy his opponents…once possible, but not every single time?

      Dems did not push 44 but the entire Deep State…Brezenski group was most likely handler…

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    • Ad rem…are there two Kay’s?
      I posted under that name and the character is similar. Was my name given to someone else?

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      • Ad rem says:

        Yes….the other Kay’s been around since 2018….although, she used to present herself as KAY123. WE do not assign names…it’s a function of WP when you sign up for an account. If you’d like to modify your own username, just click on your gravatar pic, and select “My Profile’. A page that looks like this should pop up. Your real name appears up top, however, your “display” name can be anything you’d like. There are a million “Ad rems” on the internet….my real name is hidden.

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  29. Reserved55 says:

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  30. rustybritches says:

    Would not surprise me if Mitch McConnell did tell the President what they were going to do with the Dems now, He is such a back stabbing little man and first thing the President should do is fire his wife Nothing is saying that she wont spy on him and his admins if she is given a chance Tell McConnell that you will be supportive of the new conservative running against him and then I would go out and find one MATT BEVIN COULD HAVE WON BEFORE AND HAS BEEN A GOOD GOV
    COME ON KENTUCKY FIND GREAT PERSON TO KICK MCCONNELL OUT OF OFFICE

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  31. Cheesehead54016 says:

    Where o where is the Weiner laptop and how may of the 33000 +/- missing HRC emails are on that laptop and how many are Clinton Foundation related?

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  32. Sherri Young says:

    HAHAHAHAHA!!! Rick Perry, you sly thing.

    This is just too good. It reminds me of the Burr Conspiracy that helped launch Tennesseans into Tejas and caused the creation of the Republic of Texas.

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  33. WeThePeople2016 says:

    What a $&$sss. He was told so he didn’t talk to any of them but ran his mouth off.

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    • linda4298 says:

      His phone lines were burning up today.

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    • For Eyes says:

      But let’s assume “the worst.” Let’s assume it was a show of physical force.

      The revolution has to begin SOMEWHERE.

      I am not a rabble-rouser by nature, but at some juncture lawlessness is the only response to lawlessness. NOT anyone’s desire. But where is the restraint … the self-correcting mechanism to right this ship?

      The situation is a box of tinder just waiting for a spark.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      What would Lyndsey know about nuts?

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  34. Perot Conservative says:

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  35. NJF says:

    Never thought of it like this….evil

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  36. convert says:

    So nothing is happening and Barr and Graham and everybody is Deep State and McConnell is going to impeach ….yet Comey, Brennan and Clapper have shut the hell up and disappeared. And Durham has Mifsud’s phones.🤣🤣🤣 Y’all go ahead and fret. I’m gonna nap and stock up on popcorn. This is gonna be LIT!

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  37. Nick The Deplorable says:

    So to conclude this decision this went through, a NO from the Governor, two courts, senate chambers and now full senate. I think we are finally done.

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  38. Carrie says:

    Food for thought- (and if you don’t know about the James Young case- it is covered in a Daily Mail article today).

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7604687/Jury-rules-against-dad-trying-stop-son-transitioning-girl.html

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  39. kay says:

    Jerome Corsi investigated Every detail in Obummers life. His father was not
    from Africa…… His mother was shopping for a father for her unborn child.
    Obummer Senior was NOT his father. But his “pretend Auntie” said she was
    there when he was born in Kenya. Corsi said he resembles Frank
    what’s-his-name….. I thought he looks more like Bin Laden…but
    that’s my opinion.
    Yes the two Iowa girls were from The University of Iowa. The press is
    run by Dems. If they don’t print news…..NOBODY KNOWS. That’s why
    Trump uses twitter. No body edits what he writes.

    Saudis have private planes everywhere they come and go at will.
    The night at Las Vegas massacre when 59 people died……there were
    Saudi airplanes and helicopters on the air strip runway. Shots were fired from
    the landing pad atop Mandalay Bay and in the air above. Steven was shot not
    the shooter. Too many reports of shooting flashes from aircraft above.
    FBI AND CIA LIED. They also lied about assasination attempts on
    Saudi Prince Salaman inside the Tropicana at the very same time of the
    festival shooting.

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  40. Carrie says:

    Could this be part of the reason Grassley is upset?

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  41. Reserved55 says:

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  44. linda4298 says:

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  45. Reserved55 says:

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  46. Perot Conservative says:

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  47. Reserved55 says:

    Well, who or what is the Independent Fact Checking Network? Which then becomes the “International” Fact Checking Network.

    If their lips are moving.

    Why isn’t Zuckerberg in jail for lying to Congress?

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    • Carrie says:

      It’s like the acceptance rules to FB. Death by bureaucratic layers- multiple links with dense language, in the end you have no idea what you are signing.

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  48. Sherri Young says:

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  49. meadowlarkspring says:

    Does this reasoning apply to what happened when the FBI used an article from Yahoo News as independent corroboration for the Steele dossier when, in fact, Steele had talked to the news outlet in the Carter Page warrant? A covert propaganda op on the FISA court?

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    • meadowlarkspring says:

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      • Troublemaker10 says:

        According to the Republicans who were at the hearing, including one who questioned Taylor….

        Taylor confirmed there was “no quid pro quo”.

        So this anti-Trump CNN reporter, Rangappa, appears to be not only describing what the Dems are doing….but participating in their covert propoganda op.

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