DOJ-FBI “Small Group” Promote Defense of Spygate Operations – Former FBI/DOJ Officials Nervous, Hiring Lawyers…

The activity of the “small group” of coup plotters consists of three generalized subsidiary agencies: (1) DOJ/FBI, (2) CIA/ODNI, and (3) The State Department.

Within each “small group faction” a years-long review of their narrative constructs shows the groups have specific and unique media outlets for their offensive (’16, ’17) and defensive (’18, ’19) propaganda efforts.

•The DOJ/FBI faction of the “small group” leaks to narrative engineers at the New York Times and NBC. •The CIA/ODNI faction utilize the Washington Post and ABC; and •the State Dept. faction use CNN and CBS. Each faction uses the same reporters & pundits for their distribution. This pattern, albeit generalized, has been consistent for several years.

The originating media entity -utilizing the leaks, opinions and agenda of the faction most concerned- starts the process. The secondary media groups come in for support – reporting on the reporting; and then reporting on the reporting of the reporting… and so on. This process provides a concentric distribution effort to bolster the originating premise.

Similar to the Journ-o-list effort of Ezra Klein, all of the ideologically aligned reporters share information for the larger process of defending the prior activity and advancing a unified narrative. [Reference Buzzfeed’s Ali Watkins sharing leaks from SSCI Security Director James Wolfe to her peers at WaPo and New York Times while she had sex with the source to keep the information pipeline open.]

It is important to remember this concerted process whenever we are reviewing media articles concerning the matters of interest to each of the “small group” factions.

In essence, the propagandists within the media are the same; and the sources for the positions reflected in the articles are the same. Wash, rinse and repeat depending on the identified risk.

So today we see NBC and the New York Times going “out front” on behalf of their interests. Referencing the faction each outlet represents we see the *reporting* is to defend the interests of the DOJ and FBI.

The first “small group” report is from NBC. Toplines:

  • The Durham investigation is more broad and therefore more troubling.
  • Durham is moving to interview current/former CIA and current/former Intelligence Community operatives.
  • The CIA and Intelligence Community operatives are hiring lawyers prior to speaking to Durham.
  • The Durham investigation appears again looking at the ICA (Intelligence Community Assessment); which again is the part of Small Group operation which constructed the ‘vast Russian conspiracy’ (election interference) narrative.
  • The Small Group is worried the investigation has now shifted into a possible criminal probe.
  • The Small Group members themselves have NOT been questioned. This is making them nervous; hence the reporting.
  • Barr and Durham visiting Italy, the U.K. and Australia to speak with Mifsud, Halper and Downer respectively is really making the Small Group nervous.

Here’s the key NBC paragraphs, emphasis mine:

(Via NBC) A review launched by Attorney General William Barr into the origins of the Russia investigation has expanded significantly amid concerns about whether the probe has any legal or factual basis, multiple current and former officials told NBC News.

[The “multiple current and former officials” are members of the small group.  Based on the outlet and the material, these members are DOJ and FBI officials].

The prosecutor conducting the review, Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, has expressed his intent to interview a number of current and former intelligence officials involved in examining Russia’s effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, including former CIA Director John Brennan and former director of national intelligence James Clapper, Brennan told NBC News.

Durham has also requested to talk to CIA analysts involved in the intelligence assessment of Russia’s activities, prompting some of them to hire lawyers, according to three former CIA officials familiar with the matter. And there is tension between the CIA and the Justice Department over what classified documents Durham can examine, two people familiar with the matter said.

[Here we see Durham doing what we suspected five months ago. {Go Deep} Durham is looking at who put together the December 2016, Joint Analysis Report (JAR); and the January 2017, Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA); essentially the originating documents that promoted the vast Russian conspiracy and set the cornerstone for a special counsel investigation therein.]

With Barr’s approval, Durham has expanded his staff and the timeframe under scrutiny, according to a law enforcement official directly familiar with the matter.

[This is common sense.  If the ICA is a false political document, then guess what?  Yep, the entire narrative from the JAR and ICA is part of a big fraud (it is).  Then the construct of the special counsel probe (remember the “originating” construct), was false. (it was)]

[…] If Durham is conducting a criminal investigation, it’s not clear what allegations of wrongdoing are being examined. The Justice Department has not detailed any, and a spokeswoman declined to comment for this story.

“I don’t know what the legal basis for this is,” Brennan said, calling the probe “bizarre.”

[…] Justice Department officials have said that Durham has found something significant, and that critics should be careful.

[…] Skeptics who have been trying to track Durham’s movements say he has yet to interview key figures, including former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, former FBI agent Peter Stzrok and former FBI general counsel James Baker.

[“skeptics”?  Who are they?  …and why are they “trying to track Durham’s movements”?]

“Nobody who knows anything has been interviewed,” said a person in touch with those former officials.

[So the group is talking to themselves and using a third party to push their collective discussion into the media.  Important to note.]

[…] A Western intelligence official familiar with what Durham has been asking of foreign officials says his inquiries track closely with the questions raised about the Russia investigation in right-wing media.

[So some entity in the intelligence community, likely outside the U.S. , is in contact with the small group and keeping them apprised of what Durham is doing?  Interesting. Pay attention to what NBC is admitting here… Corrupt officials, co-conspirators, within the intelligence apparatus are monitoring John Durham; relaying information back to their allies; who then talk among themselves and coordinate media leaks based on the information they are able to extract from the tracking.   That’s a big admission.]

[…] The Senate intelligence committee examined the allegations about Downer, Mifsud and Halper, as part of its bipartisan investigation into the intelligence community’s assessment that Russia was responsible for attacking the 2016 election, and found nothing to substantiate any wrongdoing, a committee aide said. (read full article)

[Again, notice how the small group is utilizing the SSCI, and it is a committee aide within the SSCI that is leaking to NBC.  We already know the SSCI was completely compromised by the effort to remove President Trump from office. {Go Deep}  Part of that SSCI effort led to the discovery of SSCI Security Director James Wolfe leaking the FISA application to the media.  The SSCI was/is part of the coup/impeachment effort.]

(Go Deep)

Next up we look at the New York Times….

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225 Responses to DOJ-FBI “Small Group” Promote Defense of Spygate Operations – Former FBI/DOJ Officials Nervous, Hiring Lawyers…

  1. SpotTheSpook says:

    I read the same freaking article and only picked up on like 1/10 of this. You are a truly gifted investigator and we are blessed to have you!

    Liked by 40 people

    • like both comments above

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    • Patricia Weir says:

      Saw an article on Pajama Media this afternoon with a similar theme. However Sundance goes into vastly more detail and thus educates the reader. This as opposed to merely eliciting a emotional response. Thank you Sundance. You are the best ever and are truly appreciated.

      Liked by 20 people

    • Countrywatch says:

      Hear, hear, STS. Thank you Sundance.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Bill Durham says:

      It doesn’t sound like Barr is doing a cover up. He is diving way too deep and looking at the right stuff for this to be a cover up. The fact that he went with Durham suggest he does not trust anyone else on this mission. And he can see any classified info around the world. Which means Durham can see it. The fact that they decided to investigate Rudy is also a positive sign they are making people uncomfortable. They can’t remove Trump and Durham has a year to go. Time seems to be on our side. The small group is not going to beat Trump to the Court House.

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      • WRB says:

        And he [Barr] can see any classified info

        That is a good point. POTUS has authorized him to declassify i.e. he can examine anything that the President is allowed to see. So in theory, these spy agencies cannot stonewall with “it’s classified beyond your need to know”.

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      • Jederman says:

        Good post. It’s easy to assume that if Barr is “investigating” then the perps are toast. Which has not, to date, been the case. Think IG referrals and DOJ declining to prosecute.

        Barr could investigate this for a thousand years with the same results. Or conclude (somehow) that there was no wrong doing, or go back to the “intent” cop out. Or see it through and do the right thing, based on the evidence. Regardless of where that evidence finally stops.


    • guybee55 says:

      Totally – there is no place where the research is this comprehensive.
      One question – this is a coordinated effort between three agencies that have notoriously never cooperated on anything. How is this possible they could have put together such a complete and totally coordinated effort?
      There is only one answer – someone above them called them to order and dispensed the directives and ordered the strategy. Hmmmm! Who could that have been? You never see mention of her in any of the articles, emails, text msgs. Yet, it would be supernatural for her to not be involved in this. V—— J——. and by extension BO,

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      • Somebody's Gramma says:

        Pretty much anyone paying attention knows that ValJar is suspect, but her minions keep the Internet scrubbed of any information. I think many of us clued into that when Glenn Beck used to do his chalkboard analyses, oh way back in 2011ish? It would be interesting to know, when all this shakes out, if the prior Prez was/is an actual C_A asset, or if ValJar is truly a MB asset or just good ol’ communist and thereby the Prez, or PickYourPoison. Something stinks… we just don’t know what yet or maybe we’ll never know all who were/are complicit in this coup. The swamp is deep and wide. I keep holding out hope that there are enough Good Guys to right this thing we call our Republic.

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        • DaughterofLiberty says:

          Gramma – I will bet you a first class trip and a week’s vacay at a five star that Jug Ears is in fact See Eye Aye. His mother apparently was; his white grandparents were (assuming they were in fact his blood relatives) – as there is NO WAY that skeletal drug dealing, sleazy no-body pimp (married no less to a transgender) EVER would have made it through college, let alone the highest office in the land without such background. Brennan, I’m looking at you, you anti-American scum.


      • Contrarymary says:

        “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There will be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time”. Valerie Jarrett
        Can’t be repeated often enough. The evil this enshrines sent shivers down my spine when I heard it because I knew those people were capable of any darkness and depravity.

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    • oodeluph says:

      At this long-past-endurance point in President Trump’s tenure, one can only throw a “Hail Mary” hope that Bill Barr has some imminent, high-level indictments ready to serve. He hasn’t been there that long, granted, but time is seriously short for a carpet bombing of the Deep State. This time, there is cause for optimism.
      President Trump has recently publicly and deliberately mentioned the Lyin’ King as the originator of this coup. One thing is clear; if Trump says it, regardless of the Jackass Party’s condemnation and derision, the President has had a 100% accuracy rating.

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    • Bob says:

      Lets face it, there is enough evidence on all of the Obama gang to round them all up and arrest them without bail, and let the legal system do its job. That what would happen if this was a Mafia investigation the jails would be full by now. The time for investigating should be done. Since when does a govt. employee get off the hook for a crime they committed while working in the govt. in any capacity?
      Until we the People are rid of these crooked politician and bureaucrats we will not be FREE.


      • Bob says:

        Here’s a list of laws for which Fed Employees can be fired. Hillary and the rest of them hit every box….GO GETEM….


        Government – Wide Ethics Laws
        These laws apply to all Federal employees and carry criminal penalties for noncompliance. They also serve as a basis for the ethics regulations known as the Standards of Ethical Conduct for Employees of the Executive Branch, 5 C.F.R. Part 2635.

        Bribery of Public Officials Prohibited – 18 U.S.C. § 201

        This statute prohibits a Government employee from directly or indirectly receiving or soliciting anything of value in exchange for being influenced in the performance or nonperformance of any official act, including giving testimony, or in exchange for committing fraud.

        Restrictions on Compensated Representational Activities – 18 U.S.C. § 203

        This statute prohibits a Government employee from seeking or accepting compensation for representational services (rendered either personally or by another) before a Federal court or Government agency in a particular matter in which the United States is a party or has a direct or substantial interest. Representational services include any communications on behalf of another party with the intent to influence the Government. There are limited exceptions, such as for representing oneself or one’s immediate family or a person or estate for which the employee acts as a fiduciary, but not where the employee has participated officially or has official responsibility.

        Restrictions on Acting as an Agent or Attorney – 18 U.S.C. § 205

        This statute prohibits a Government employee from acting as an agent or attorney for anyone before a Federal court or Government agency, whether compensated or not. There are limited exceptions, such as for representing other Federal employees in personnel matters; representing a not-for-profit organization in certain matters, if a majority of its members are current Federal employees or their spouses or dependent children; representing oneself or one’s immediate family or a person or estate for which the employee acts as a fiduciary, but not where the employee has participated officially or has official responsibility; or acting as an agent or attorney, in certain matters, for a tribal organization or intertribal consortium to which the employee is assigned under the Intergovernmental Personnel Act or 25 U.S.C. § 48, after advising the Government in writing of any personal and substantial involvement the employee has had in connection with the matter.

        Post-Government Employment Restriction – 18 U.S.C. § 207

        This statute does not bar an individual, regardless of rank or position, from accepting employment with any private or public employer. It does impose restrictions on certain communications that a former employee may make as a representative of a third party back to the Federal Government. These restrictions are explained more fully in the “Restrictions on Post-Government Employment” section of this website.

        Conflicts of Interest – 18 U.S.C. § 208

        This statute prohibits a Government employee from participating personally and substantially, on behalf of the Federal Government, in any particular matter in which he or she has a financial interest. In addition, the statute provides that the financial interests of certain other “persons” are imputed to the employee (that is, the interests are the same as if they were the employee’s interests). These other persons include the employee’s spouse, minor child, general partner, an organization in which he or she serves as an officer, trustee, partner or employee, and any person or organization with whom the employee is negotiating or has an arrangement concerning future employment. There are limited regulatory exemptions authorized by the Office of Government Ethics, an exception for certain financial interests arising solely out of Native American birthrights, and a very limited waiver authority.

        Supplementation of Federal Salary Prohibited – 18 U.S.C. § 209

        This statute prohibits a Government employee from receiving any salary, or any contribution to or supplementation of salary; or anything of value from a non-federal entity as compensation for services he or she is expected to perform as a Government employee.

        Impartiality in Performing Official Duties – 5 C.F.R. § 2635.502

        You must take appropriate steps to avoid any appearance of loss of impartiality in the performance of your official duties. Beyond the conflict of interest law discussed at 18 U.S.C. § 207, ethics regulations require all employees to recuse themselves from participating in an official matter if their impartiality would be questioned. The regulations identify three circumstances where employees should carefully consider whether their impartiality is subject to question: 1) where the financial interests of a member of the employee’s household would be impacted; 2) if a party or party representative in an official matter has a “covered relationship” with the employee; and 3) any other time the employee believes his or her impartiality may be subject to question. The term “covered relationship” includes a wide variety of personal and business relationships that an employee or his family members may have with outside parties. Employees who find that a party or representative of a party is a person with whom the employee or a family member has a personal or outside-of-work/unofficial business relationship should consult with their ethics counselor before taking official action in a particular matter.

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      • Marilyn Assenheim says:

        Since when? Since the Democrats.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Marilyn Assenheim says:

        Since when? Since the Democrats.


      • warrprin1 says:

        “Let’s face it, there is enough evidence on all of the Obama gang…”

        Perhaps the investigators and the prosecutors are remembering the fate of the Kennedy Bros.; in this case, particularly that of Bobby?


    • WhiteBoard says:

      it just clicked. the leakers are using the news outlets to inform and coordinate the coup.

      our news agencies are not a Free Press. they are a Coup Asset and are actively working against the Instituion (Department of Justice; forget the employeeesss, they are working against the Institution to their own interest).

      Thats it – Every person you talk to – demand them to explain to you WHY the FBI relied on UKRAINE to review the DNC server and say RUSSIA did it. WE ESSENTIALLY were used by UKRAINE to attack their ENEMY RUSSIA.



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      • frances says:

        Possibly Ukraine was told what to investigate and told what to come up with. I haven’t seen anything to indicate that Ukraine was allowed any initiatives, it was a goose to be plucked, nothing more. Or less. The fact that the intended victims were Trump and company as well as Russia is really an aside to it all; they were just following orders IMO

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        • WhiteBoard says:

          i agree. it seems like every young country is a goose to be plucked by power players in our country and others.

          i need to start transfering the word UKRAINE for Crowdstrike

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    • rmhnc says:

      liked your post, StS


    • MelH says:

      OMG, another jolt of HOPE! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Sundance! I thought I had hit top on the despair meter and was in desperate need of HOPE!

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  2. vikingmom says:

    This follows a pattern that was very obvious during the Clinton years…when they know that bad news is coming out, they leak selective bits of it in advance in order to frame the narrative in the best possible way. Then, when the full story is released the MSM can then claim that it is “old news” and has already been covered, pointing out their previous stories, and downplaying any new or damaging additions.

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    • Somebody's Gramma says:

      Yes Vikingmom. But, now we are tuned into their schemes, so when a story comes out, we take it with a boat load of salt and try to figure out who is trying to get in front of what story. We are on to them. I think that’s half the battle. #woke

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      • vikingmom says:

        WE are on to them but sadly, the majority of Americans don’t see how they are being manipulated and simply accept every narrative fed to them by the MSM.


        • noswamp says:

          Vikingmom, do not despair, more people are waking up every week. All my democrat friends are not whistling Dixie anymore. One friend told me he will not vote for ANY of the current DNC candidates.

          Plus, I see many who did not vote for Trump before will vote for him now. That tells me many more people are waking up than we think, sure, relatively speaking, a large percentage still are asleep at the wheel listening and believing MSM, but in Texas 20 percent more Latinos will vote for Trump than in 2016. And that is conservative. Again, what does that tell you?

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    • bocephusrex says:

      My personal fav: “Previously DEBUNKED numerous times”

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    • JG3 says:

      This may explain Hillary and Gabbard/s “cat fight”…highest ratings, i.e. Linda Evans, Joan Collins on Dynasty. Another shiny object and one they know everyone will fall for. “After all every one like a good “cat fight!”

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  3. California Joe says:

    What classified documents? How can fabricated, fictional and completely false documents be classified top-secret, seriously? It was all made-up crap, a fairy tale and designed to frame the President of the United States for a crime that, not only he didn’t commit, but a crime that never even happened! Anybody who stands in Durham’s way should summarily fired for obstruction of justice.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Obviously anything the Small Group wants to hide likely contains information that reveals the crimes, the strategy, and/or the perpetrators.

      Liked by 5 people

    • wyoskeptic says:

      The problem is, not strictly limited to this situation, those who have the power to classify what is and what is not top secret get to decide what gets classified. There is no normal review process to remove that classification from any documents so marked. If they wish, they can make a list of how much toilet paper they require top secret. Or what they had for lunch.

      Through this method, they can classify docs and then say “Oh gee, there is lots and lots of evidence and we would show you, but it is all classified. So sorry.” Anyone who has the clearances to search for such then have to wade through a virtual sea of toilet paper requisitions and other nonsense to find what is really important.


  4. Keating Willcox says:

    excellent work. the noose tightens. Why did these ‘smart’ people leave such enormous paper trails?

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  5. Thanks SD, very interesting; great analysis and dissection of what is going on. People are getting very nervous..hope Durham has a body guard and has stored all evidence in multiple safe places.

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  6. Beauregard says:

    Sundance – You have SO informed me about so many aspects of what has been going on, what is going on, and what likely will occur because of your wisdom and discernment. I would love for you to get the Medal of Freedom someday – when you can be open about who you are.

    Meanwhile, please keep these insightful posts coming!

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  7. hoghead says:

    “I hear that train a-comin’, comin’ round the bend…” heading at a small group near you.

    Sundance, I remember you stressing that POTUS and crew should concentrate on the origins of this operation, that it likely began way sooner than thought and steele/weismann dossier was after the fact to legitimize what already was going on. Sure looks like that’s where Barr/Durham are going.

    SD, you still have that big wrecking ball photo? You might need it [I hope].

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  8. snellvillebob says:

    Since the foreigners Downer, Mifsud and Halper were part of the coup, has Durham gotten a FISA warrant to spy on their phone calls, and the phone calls of those they spoke to, and the phone calls of the second group? This should pretty much put the entire FBI and much of the DOJ under communications surveillance.

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  9. FL_GUY says:

    These EVIL people need to be destroyed. They are a den of cold blooded vipers and they stick together. It takes real guts to go after them trying to use the legal system. Personally, I’d be fine with the identified traitors from around the world, being rounded up and deposited in Gitmo indefinitely rather than trying to depend on a stacked deck judiciary and a blackmailed or extorted jury as we’ve seen with Manafort, but that’s probably just me.

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    • jrapdx says:

      I’m thinking that Barr/Durham are working very carefully to get the evidence together into airtight cases against various members of the “small group” and associates.

      Once it’s all put together, the subjects of investigation will be presented with the goods against them. Chances are some will go for a plea bargain deal rather than risk more onerous punishments. Hence the beginning of the end will commence without the crooked system having the opportunity to bypass the justice these criminals so richly deserve.

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      • steph_gray says:

        Very important point! It simply takes time to do this right. A lot of time.

        I often wish that would occur to the armchair eeyores on this site who continually claim that Barr and Durham must be traitors because they haven’t worked quickly enough for everyone’s liking. Lots of exercise jumping to that conclusion.

        When do I want justice? Yesterday.

        But, when will I take it? Whenever it occurs.

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        • jrapdx says:

          Exactly so! As adults we (ought to) learn what we want has little if any effect on the rest of the universe. And that goes double applied to the glacial pace of “processes” intrinsic to our federal bureaucracies. Like it or not things happen when they happen, if they ever even happen at all.

          At this point then the only thing left for us to do is trust President Trump. It’s his show to run, he’s gonna run it his way to whatever conclusion it comes to. If that’s not good enough, well, what good is grousing going to do?

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  10. SamlAdams says:

    I see a lot of flop sweats out there


  11. Bogeyfree says:

    Love this…..

    “The prosecutor conducting the review, Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, has expressed his intent to interview a number of current and former intelligence officials involved in examining Russia’s effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, including former CIA Director John Brennan and former director of national intelligence James Clapper, Brennan told NBC News.”

    And this part….

    This is common sense. If the ICA is a false political document, then guess what? Yep, the entire narrative from the JAR and ICA is part of a big fraud (it is). Then the construct of the special counsel probe (remember the “originating” construct), was false. (it was)]

    Which leads to the question…….

    If Durham is conducting a criminal investigation, it’s not clear what allegations of wrongdoing are being examined. The Justice Department has not detailed any, and a spokeswoman declined to comment for this story.

    “I don’t know what the legal basis for this is,” Brennan said, calling the probe “bizarre.”

    So if Durham is discovering the ICA was a fraud and the narrative from the JAR is a big fraud which makes the SC an even bigger fraud then………

    Sundance, is it possible that the answer to the legal basis question could be that Durham and Barr are moving possibly closer to……..


    Don’t leave us hanging. Is that where you are going with this??

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    • snellvillebob says:

      I believe the fact that they did not stop this farce the morning after Donald Trump won makes it a coup.

      Liked by 8 people

      • Bogeyfree says:

        Yes but the missing piece has been……..

        What does Barr think and does he now have the evidence to prove it was a COUP?

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        • April Roztij says:

          Yes the evidence is toght in front of is in the form of signatures,meetings, calls, texts, intent, knowledge and plotting. And more


        • Linda K. says:

          Well, Barr said he was looking for the predicate for the spying that was ongoing on Trump.
          If the predicate was, we want to get rid of him, that makes it a coup.

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          • Raptors2020 says:

            Wray continues to withhold some of the Strzok/Page text messages. “Insurance Policy” remains one of the best pieces of evidence of a plot/coup, and not just overzealous investigators.

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        • WhiteBoard says:

          evidence would be the Ukraine story rvistan spoke of – Porchenko or whatever the corrupt Ukraine prosecuter’s name is had some team member raided last night.

          and some other commenter mentioned that Schiffs aid went there prior to this.. almost like they were hinting Shiff was tipping off Prochenko to run.

          other Evidence would be the phone from italy (Misfud – implying the Deep State SET HIM UP)

          more evidence would be RUDY saying their will be BLOOD (implying the news to come will look like its hurting them, but its a must to the public aware of this) the President has always used the medias need to take him down as a way to set a trap and knock them out the park.

          Trudeau loses or wins MONDAY

          FLYNN has CASE DROPPED on NOV 7th or something happens relevant.

          Oct 31st – was Brexit.

          any other big events coming soon?

          Thanks boogey for those targeted questions that keeps me thinking focused!


      • Issy says:

        The day I read the strzok/page text in late Summer of 2017 I knew it was a coup. In the next few months, as more info was revealed, I knew brennan orchestrated it. The not so simple task is proving it and finding the obama admistration was knowingly involved. They all need to be exposed and disgraced along with foreign intelligence operations who took part in it. I don’t know what laws were broken or if charges can be brought.

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  12. Brant says:

    I think it’s so choice that he says, “asking questions raised by right wing media….”. Well, they are the only ones actually asking the right …… questions.

    I wonder if this “leak” was to get out to us, who have been waiting for years, that they are doing something.

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  13. ALEX says:

    Always enjoy this. If this wasn’t so serious, I bet Sundance and the group get some real entertainment watching this once again in real time.

    It seems Durham is following what the Attorney General outlined in his testimony and following the leads.

    What always stuck out to me is how much emphasis Barr placed on the meeting in the Oval Office the day before the Goldnen Shower set up that involved Obama,Biden,Comey,Brennan,Clapper,Rice and Rodgers…

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  14. JImS says:

    Sounds like Durham and Barr are subject to a conspiracy to obstruct justice . I hope they and their staff have bulletproof security. I suspect that Trump has the right man in the wings to help the cause of justice. Remember , when Rudy took on the mob in NYC everyone said it could never be done and then it was lights out for the mobs grip on the city. Very similar times . I can feel another Rudy special on the horizon. RICCO Rudy to the rescue. TRump and Rudy ,with their big apple experiences ,are uniquely equipped to gear the tiger by the tail and kill it. Have faith my friends.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      The coup members could very well be looking to arrange and accident for Barr and Durham, if they get to near the truth.

      So if this investigation is more than a show, Durham and Barr would be well advised to travel with a number of body guards.

      Rudy is a direction for now – don’t look at what is actually going on. See the pretty light.


  15. Conundrum says:

    With the additional news of the raid on Poroschenko’s palace and arrests of his top hands for money laundering, things are getting interesting.. Schiff will be implicated in that mess.

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  16. Paul Gallant says:

    would Ex officio SSCI members be privy to the same information?


  17. Rick says:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong in thinking that all these people involved still have security clearances. All these people involved have so many swamp donkey connections. I find it really hard to fathom. That they don’t know exactly what’s going on by the minute in these investigations.

    The bad guys and Mrs Clinton have so many connections and rats in DC I feel as if the American people are the only ones who don’t know what’s really going on.

    Liked by 1 person

    • WhiteBoard says:

      the only acess to intel where u can do it undocumented is through OTHER country’s locations. that took time and elections to fix. hence our traveling coup.


  18. JImS says:

    Trump and Rudy are two of the bravest most intelligent men in the country . Our great country is in the best of hands.

    Liked by 3 people

  19. Bogeyfree says:

    Does anyone think that various RINO’s in the Senate are also sweating it?

    Meaning if people in the agencies go down and the big club knows who has been on the take all these years, won’t they rat the various RINO’s out as well and for survival purposes won’t these RINO’s want to move forward quickly on impeachment and vote to impeach PT so they don’t get exposed?

    It does seem like Barr and Durham are moving quicker and maybe it is to head off what I outline above?

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  20. Pyrthroes says:

    Accepting that the BHO Administration not only instigated but facilitated every aspect of this incipient Police State coup d’oeuvre –whose origins actually date from c. 1961– emerging details buttress profound institutional questions.

    Given that the “quis custodiet” conundrum (who will guard the guards?) is likely irresolvable, what long-term behavioral disincentives (vs. legal-schemegal word-games or nominal “oversight” devolved to Deep State complicity) can a civil polity enact to render hyper-partisan subversion not just difficult but against snuffle-grunting elitists’ financial interests [which, let’s face it, is all dirigiste rentiers ever care about]?

    In view of Founders’ historically understandable neglect of Administrative/Regulatory (Fourth Branch) constraints, strictures, we could name a few mundane, practical, procedural and even basic statutory measures, but in today’s environment– who cares?


    • Somebody's Gramma says:

      I care. We all care. And I think that is Trump (and Barr)’s point in all this is “This should never happen to another President again”. Once they know the origin and can document all the procedural and legal “mistakes”/purposeful actions, and indict people… if that ever happens… rules/laws can be put forth by Congress, at our insistence, that prevent future coups. If the truth comes out, we’ll all be screaming for Justice. I can’t see us all going back to sleep.

      Liked by 1 person

    • TPW says:

      We go in to NSA building smash up everything then destroy building……Take down FISA court. Cut DOJ FBI significantly ….matter of fact more than half of govt. can go. Especially State Depart.Then over time decide to do away with CIA……this is all possible and necessary..We should demand it…….


  21. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    All those SPYGATE operators should be afraid of the Silent Majority.

    Citizens don’t appreciate government sleazeballs spying on Americans.

    Liked by 8 people

  22. BobR says:

    All sounds good. But if full story comes out after Trump is not president, no penalties issued. Given what we have seen already, no full investigative report by Barr will be available until after 2020 election. With the evidence available can anyone tell me why no one has been charged?


    • WhiteBoard says:

      Mnuchin will freeze all mapped out conspirators (GLOBAL) assets (executive order signed long ago). I’m guessing they have already discussed in private with the new leaders of the conspirator countries as to what happened and they need a show of renewed partnership or this will cut ties forever.

      hence italy – phones
      hence uk – Queen support of Brexit
      hence australia – Downer

      the only slow down in this whole process was the MOB (through Saul Alinsky techniques) is still unaware and can be dangerously harmed by themselves through the COUP inciting them.

      the President is training the public of what is bad, by luring the press to attack him and defined the crime (quid Pro Quo[secret empires – biden kerry mconnel]; asking a country to investigate a US citizen {Obama getting assistance from italy, uk etc]; using foriegn aid [iran pallets of cash]

      then Durham will provide evidence of what the PREDICATE COUP did to meet all those trained ideals.

      Liked by 1 person

    • justlizzyp says:

      I had the opposite feeling – I am beyond tickled with how quickly Durham is moving. Compare the level of crap he’s had to dig through to the Mueller investigation and then realize he’s been at it for about 6 months and has already gotten to Mifsud and expanded his timeline. To me that says he can demolish the bogus predicate and now he’s going for conspiracy. Like bonus points. He’s done that in 6 months. Incredible.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Raptors2020 says:

        Watergate centered on the tapes. This plot may come down to tapes, as well. Gowdy’s heard tapes of PapaD, which he found exculpatory.
        The suspicion is the plotters (Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Mueller etc) recorded Trump on multiple occasions. Their very existence, along with the leading questions asked, may prove to be the plotters’ downfall, rather than Trump’s.

        Liked by 2 people

  23. Scooger says:

    Since Sundance has nicely laid out the connections between the rats – lets hope warrants have issued to monitor the musings of the seditious cabal.

    Liked by 1 person

  24. JustSomeInputFromAz says:

    How dare you Deplorable’s elect a non Big Club approved candidate.

    signed “The Intelligence Community”


  25. Devil in the Blue Drapes says:

    If DOJ possesses the cajones to charge even the lower level culprits (and that’s a capital IF), think about the process.

    By the time everyone lawyers up (I’m sure there’s a mad scramble out of every major city of high powered lawyers to the ACELA corridor), let the Motions, Continuances, counter suits and book deals begin….and that’s before any appeals.

    How quickly and efficiently do you think cases will be litigated before a) the American ppl who care about equal justice, become exhausted from the process and forget about it or die, and b) by the time these cases are rendered a conclusive decision, administrations will have changed, possibly by 2 terms.

    Judging by the political/global influences/interests, the wheels of justice are frozen in inertia for a reason.


    • Somebody's Gramma says:

      Yeah, but I’m making sure my adult kids are informed, whether they like it or not, agree or not, and I decided to do some strategic long term informing (books, journals, etc) for my grandchildren, only one of which is old enough to understand. I’m not going to let this die, even from the grave, if I can help it. My efforts may be futile, but at least it’s something.

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  26. ristvan says:

    The timing of this is significant. Note the ‘source’ connection is DOJ/FBI. That is where the Horowitz FISA report hits very soon. And the perps have already reviewed their individual pieces of it. So fear what might be coming—possible criminal indictments from Durham based on Nunes (public) and Horowitz (not yet public) criminal referrals.

    Note the NBC spin toward the EC predicate which is NOT DoJ but IC. Sets up the defense storyline ‘we were fooled by IC—Clapper and Brennan’. Except that doesn’t work as a 18USC1018 felony defense because Comey testified under oath that the Steele dossier was unverified, yet signed the Woods procedure FISA warrant application anyway. McCabe testified under oath that without the dossier FBI would not have gotten the FISA warrant approved. And Kevalec from State told FBI in writing that Steele AND his dossier were unreliable. Case closed.

    Clapper and Brennan must know Durham has the goods on them also. Especially after Sidney Powell on Tuesday requested the data from Mifsud’s two cellphones that Durham and Barr apparently secured in Italy. Clapper has already publicly test run his version of the Nuremberg defense:’just following Obama orders’.

    Gonna get real interesting real soon.

    Liked by 13 people

    • Perot Conservative says:

      Ristivan, please see my questions at the bottom, even though they may be redundant.


      • Raptors2020 says:

        The Ukrainian hoax is largely to protect Biden; confessing on video is no proof at all? How far would the Media and the Democrats go to protect Obama? We may be headed to depths we haven’t seen in a very long time.


    • Somebody's Gramma says:

      Spicey times! I’m going to enjoy watching who throws who under the bus!!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Battleship Wisconsin says:

      How much time will it take to build legally airtight criminal cases against Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and Yates? Six months? A year?

      What are the political implications if these indictments are issued before the 2020 election?

      Concerning how the defense lawyers would frame their legal strategies, what are the legal implications, if any, were these indictments to be issued before the 2020 election?

      I’m still of the opinion that regardless of how legally solid the indictments are, the most prominent leaders of the Spygate coup won’t cop a plea. Nor will their foot soldier participants in the plot.

      They will all choose instead to go to trial in a Washington DC venue and take their chances with what they hope will be a sympathetic jury, with the expectation they’ll all be acquitted.


      • ristvan says:

        An opinion based only on public info. Durham has been on the job about 6 months. White collar crime investigations take typically up to a year (rule of thumb).

        The case against Comey and Yates on at least felony 18USC§1018 is already made, just needs to be buttoned up evidence wise. Likely sealed indictments are already in hand.

        The case against Clapper and Brennan is being made. More complicated, because maybe the charges are conspiracies like the Nunes criminal referrals.The big new news per Sidney Powell is that Durham has Mifsud’s two cell phones, plus his deposition that Giuliani also has. Those phones should give Durham the info on who directed Western intel asset Mifsud to do what. That may lead to Rice and others. My guess based on Durham expansion and Durham Barr Italy trip, another ~three months.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      but rosenstein said it all rest on the FBI agent that swore on the affidavit…


  27. TreeClimber says:

    Here we see Durham doing what we suspected five months ago.

    So… what’s taking so long?

    Liked by 1 person

  28. Linda K. says:

    What if Rudy Guiliani was talking to these two Ukranians who were arrested after they met him last week, and Rudy realized they had valuable info and were leaving the country? What if Rudy alerted DOJ to them leaving, so they moved in to arrest them before they vanished? The media is playing this like Rudy G. is compromised, but I know he is a white hat and has been pursuing the truth.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Battleship Wisconsin says:

      That is an interesting thought. Having been a federal prosecutor himself, Rudy Guiliani knows how the game is played.


  29. John Doe says:

    Where does Michael Isikoff of Yahoo, formerly with NBC stand? Is he most connected with small group on FBI/DOJ? He’s a media member that needs consequences. Up to his eyeballs in this mess.


  30. Zippy says:

    Skeptics who have been trying to track Durham’s movements say he has yet to interview key figures, including former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, former FBI agent Peter Stzrok and former FBI general counsel James Baker.

    [“skeptics”? Who are they? …and why are they “trying to track Durham’s movements”?]

    Yes, skeptics who want to track what’s going on to see if there are any hints that the CORRECT things are going on which would indicate that the coup perp flowchart that has been beautifully laid out here and in books IS ACTUALLY BEING FOLLOWED, the hope being that THIS investigation might then produce actual prosecutions or even indictments unlike EVERY OTHER investigation thus far in the over 1000 days of the so-called Trump administration.


  31. JustSomeInputFromAz says:


    • Jederman says:

      I would like to see the effete, corrupt “journalists” such as Ken, Isikoff and rest of the anti-American propaganda poofters named in the official findings.

      In fact, make it an addendum. The complete (as possible) trail of leaks and the specific “reporters” they went to.


  32. Merkin Muffley says:

    I know all of these “reports” are coming from Lawfare.


  33. Little Berkeley Conservative says:

    Interesting as the behind paywall New York Slimes has the same, yet more in depth article that slimes the FIB.

    Many FIB interviewed. Two former fibbers on Durham’s team. None of the small group haven’t been interviewed.

    Loveerily Peter Stroke apparently opened and signed initial documents contrary to policy. It was the urgency of the situation. He had to get to London to interview Downer.

    Barely a mention, if no mention at all of Brennan or Clapper? 🤔


  34. joebkonobi says:

    “And there is tension between the CIA and the Justice Department over what classified documents Durham can examine, two people familiar with the matter said.”

    I do not understand why there would be questions about what documents Durham can examine. If Barr has blanket declass authorization from President Trump seems he could direct the CIA/FBI to give Durham anything and everything he wants.

    If Durham can pull this off, he has a bright future ahead of him. I just want him to hurry it up a bit.

    Liked by 2 people

    • islandpalmtrees says:

      My perspective is:

      If someone was able to look through your dirty clothes without your approval. You mite not be to happy when they discover the unexpected things. In our case, classified documents from the X president authorizing your operation. MOU’s, between the CIA and FBI, etc.

      Authorized or not you could be contemplating an accident.

      Liked by 1 person

  35. zozz1 says:

    I’m waiting to hear the MSM use the phrases they loved to repeat about Trump when they were certain he was headed to jail…The walls are closing in! It’s the beginning of the end! Seems they can now apply those to Brennan, Clapper, and so many more…and be correct…finally!


  36. Jederman says:

    Ya gotta wonder who the “western” IC sneak that has a source (or has surveillance) on Durham is.

    Of course that can cut both ways. Durham (if he has any control) can run his own deception/disinformation campaign and allow the sneak to be a conduit to the small group.

    Technically, our IC could be where the “western” intel official is from.

    Liked by 1 person

  37. gsonFIT says:

    Frustrating to have to wait this long, but at least Adam Schiff screwed himself in the coverup. He was a byproduct and has become a participant in a parallel/offshoot coup. He may not go to jail but he will go nowhere in politics


  38. icanhasbailout says:

    This is what you want to spend political capital on. Whatever influence you got, even if it’s just writing to your reps, use it on this. This is for all the marbles and nothing is more important at this time.

    Liked by 1 person

  39. archie says:

    Prosecutors: Why did you do it?
    Perps: It was a matter of National Security!
    Prosecutors: OK, we don’t have a case.


  40. USA First! says:

    I think what we’re seeing is that for the first time there are trip wires that have been triggered that have alerted the main coupe plotters that their defenses have been breached and Durham is closing in. From here it’s only a matter of time.
    James “ clap trap” Clapper has already brazenly thrown Obama under and is tipping his hand as to what his excuses are going to be. “ I was just following orders from Obama himself “. Brennan is using the same ploy. “ The president ordered all of the materials to be gathered “.

    The big ugly is still coming!

    Liked by 2 people

  41. mylabs5 says:

    The DoE (Energy) is involved. Trust me on this. Ernest Moniz…remember that name.


  42. jeans2nd says:

    “I don’t know what the legal basis for this is,” Brennan said”

    Welcome to the club, dummy.

    We are trying to find the legal basis for Brennan’s coup attempt. The main difference is, we have The Truth on our side. And Brennan knows it!

    Kim Strassel recently spoke with a person very close to AG Barr, who sees AG Barr daily.
    AG Barr knew exactly what he was getting into with this mess, and will not be deterred from his mission – clean up this mess, and restore integrity back to the DOJ et al.
    “And, he plays the bagpipes!” (via Eric Metaxus Show)

    Liked by 2 people

  43. Gort says:

    Mifsud’s Blackberrys — seismic. They are the smoking gun.

    The ground is crumbling under the conspirators.

    To continue my metaphor mix: the NBC article is the rats scurrying across the deck of the sinking Titanic.

    Liked by 1 person

    • WES says:

      Gort: Nice metaphor! However we know that there were not enough life boats to save all of the scurrying rats!

      However watching the scurrying rats decide which rats get room in the life boats and which rats are left to drown should be rather enjoyable!

      I rather doubt Obama is made of the same stuff as the doomed captain of the Titanic who knew he would hang if he didn’t go down with his ship.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Linda K. says:

      Blackberries are solid evidence.


  44. WeThePeople2016 says:


  45. WES says:

    If it weren’t for Ristvan, I would be quite frustrated too.

    My understanding, if correct, is that the real investigation into the coup only started after Barr was appointed about 6 months ago.

    Everything that went on prior to Bill Barr arriving was pure white washing of justise by the coup plotters.

    Up until Barr’s arrival the coup plotters were winning big time. However something changed in early 2019 to tip the balance against the coup plotters.

    For now we can only wait and hope the tide has changed in our favour.

    Liked by 2 people

  46. k4jjj says:

    If this goes to Brennan, how does it stop before landing at the feet of Obama? How does this widespread coup NOT include Barack Obama?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Somebody's Gramma says:

      I have no facts to support my opinions other than what I’ve read and think. But, I’m undecided on if Obama is/was a puppet or a grandmaster. I remember watching him campaign and thinking “he’s just a puppet of these socialist/communists!” I watched his meteoric rise to stardom, fawned on by everyone from DC to Hollywood. It was all orchestrated. And we were told “This is an historic vote! The FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT!!” regardless of his policies in fact. All that to say, Obama will throw everyone under the bus. And I don’t think this country will stand for their first African American president being indicted. I think that’s a bridge too far. All the underlings will get destroyed. He may be politically neutered – maybe the best we can hope for. Kind of like hoping Shrillary will be politically neutered and go away. My two cents you can toss.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Linda K. says:

        I remember Obama taking off to a Pacific Island right after Trump was elected and the wiretap story was out…sans family. He was gone quite a while.


  47. Dutchman says:

    Its like musicam chairs. Last one (or in the case of a conspiracy investigation) the last ones interviewed, are the SUBJECTS of the investigation.

    Coarse, this is all based on the subjects, ‘hearing things’ from unamed sources, and initiating spin thru their media allies.

    Could ALL be hogwash. Frustratingly, we won’t know if Durham is doing any more than Huber did.

    Unless/until there are indictments, it means NOTHING.


    • WRB says:

      It is obvious Durham and Barr are doing something. There are credible reports of them in Italy. There are reports from people who have been interviewed or have been told they will be interviewed (Brennan). We saw none of this with Huber. And the report that the investigation added resources also means something.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Dutchman says:

        IF this was a ‘headfake’, we would get similar ‘credible reports’. Remember, Hillary WAS interviewed, over her server.
        There were reports of a 747, taking 2 loads of paperwork from Little Rock airport, even had the plane #.
        Allegedly papers, computers from Clinton foundation, allegedly going to Huber.
        Meant NOTHING.

        And, these reports are tantalising, but like politicians words, they mean NOTHING.

        Unfortunately, the way you diffuse a scandal is NOT by covering it up, its by INVESTIGATING it, and the finding “while there were,…lapses in judgement, and ‘violations of policies and procedure’, …..intent, you see, we can’t prove INTENT.”

        Its still 50/50, based on FACTS, rather than ‘REPORTS’, we really don’t know whether this ‘review’ is a exoneration ‘investigation’, or a CRIMINAL investigation.

        And we won’t, till we see the Horowitz report. For optimists, one reason for holding the I.G. report, is that beyond anything else, IT will tell us, based on how the summary/conclusion is written, whether we are looking at exoneration or charges.

        Brennan must be sweating bullets, along with Comey, Clapper, McCabe, etc.

        A lot of stress,….

        Liked by 1 person

  48. Battleship Wisconsin says:

    It has now been exactly three years to the day since Hillary Clinton outlined what basically is the Russia collusion narrative during the third 2016 presidential debate held on October 19th, 2016.

    Two days later, on October 21st, 2019, the FISA warrant against Carter Page was approved.

    Clinton herself had to have been an active conspirator before the election in creating the Insurance Policy, and then later on after the election in carrying it out.

    What we are seeing emerge here is evidence of a post election coup being perpetrated by the loser of the 2016 presidential election against the winner.

    Liked by 1 person

  49. ezpz2 says:

    Well, the absence of the Barr playing bagpipes photo tells me Sundance may feel somewhat optimistic that justice may be served?

    Fingers crossed 🤞
    Toes, too.

    Liked by 3 people

  50. David Vicknair says:

    So they are lawyering up… Great! Drag it out until they are flat busted broke like Flynn and fighting among themselves for space among the Capital Beltway exits on I-495 to beg for handouts and a bottle of cheap water. And then drop the hammer and perp walk them, ankles manacled, on to a series of lengthy, sequential prison terms. Let the American people never hear from or about them again. And then have Congress pass laws making such acts in the future punishable by death, method of execution to be chosen by the POTUS. Yes, I’m a bit pissed.

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