DOJ Stall Succeeds – Comey Memo/Archey Declaration Update – Expect Nothing Until After October 11th…

Federal Judge James Boasberg has ruled the U.S. Dept of Justice has until October 11th, 2019, to produce the DOJ FOIA documents subject his August 12th court order; or file an appeal by that same deadline.  Hat Tip Techno-Fog:

~ FULL BACKSTORY HERE ~

The court has ordered the US DOJ “need not release the subject material until it makes a determination on appeal.”  Meaning the DOJ has until 10/11/19 (60 days from 8/12 order) to: A) Produce the documents; or B) Appeal his earlier ruling.
Frustrating.
There is a possibility the content of the Comey Memos and/or Archey Declarations may be part of the upcoming IG report on James Comey, and/or the documents may be part of the pending IG report on DOJ/FBI FISA abuse.  Key words: “may be“.
If you subscribe to the optimistic perspective the DOJ delay could be related to an intention to release the documents with the IG report(s).  However, if you are more cynical, then the DOJ and FBI could be attempting to hide the institutional corruption visible inside the documents.  Two possibilities.


On May 23rd, 2019, President Donald Trump gave U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr full authority to review and release all of the classified material hidden by the DOJ, FBI, State Department, CIA, FISA Court, and aggregate intelligence apparatus.
This Friday, August 30th, will mark 100 days since President Trump granted Bill Barr with the authority to declassify these documents.  Nothing has been declassified by the Department of Justice.
Unrelated to any known ongoing investigation, President Trump empowered AG Bill Barr to release the original authorizing scope of the Mueller investigation which began on May 17, 2017.  A Mueller investigation that concluded five months ago, and yet we are not allowed to know what the authorizing scope was?…. Nor the 2nd DOJ scope memo of August 2nd, 2017?… Nor the 3rd DOJ scope memo of October 20th, 2017?….  This specific non production is very annoying as it does not relate to any current investigation.
Here’s the original material requested by Congress and approved by President Trump:

  • All versions of the Carter Page FISA applications (DOJ) (FBI) (ODNI).
  • All of the Bruce Ohr 302’s filled out by the FBI. (FBI) (ODNI)
  • All of Bruce Ohr’s emails (FBI) (DOJ) (CIA) (ODNI). All supportive documents and material provided by Bruce Ohr to the FBI. (FBI)
  • All relevant documents pertaining to the supportive material within the FISA application. (FBI) (DOJ-NSD ) (DoS) (CIA) (DNI) (NSA) (ODNI);
  • All intelligence documents that were presented to the Gang of Eight in 2016 that pertain to the FISA application used against U.S. person Carter Page; including all intelligence documents that may not have been presented to the FISA Court. (CIA) (FBI) (DOJ) (ODNI) (DoS) (NSA)  Presumably this would include the recently revealed State Dept Kavalac email; and the FBI transcripts from wiretaps of George Papadopoulos (also listed in Carter Page FISA). [AKA ‘Bucket Five’]
  • All unredacted text messages and email content between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok on all devices. (FBI) (DOJ) (DOJ-NSD) (ODNI)
  • The originating CIA “EC” or two-page electronic communication from former CIA Director John Brennan to FBI Director James Comey that started Operation Crossfire Hurricane in July 2016. (CIA) (FBI) (ODNI)

Additionally, since the 2018 list was developed, more information has surfaced about underlying material.  This added to the possibility of documents for declassification:
♦ Release the August 2nd, 2017, two-page scope memo provided by DAG Rod Rosenstein to special counsel Robert Mueller to expand the fraudulent Trump investigation, and initiate the more purposeful obstruction of justice investigation. Also Release the October 20th, 2017, third scope memo that expanded the investigation again, and targeted additional people including Michael Flynn’s family. The Scope Memos are keys to unlocking the underlying spy/surveillance cover-up. [SEE HERE and SEE HERE]
♦ President Trump can prove the July 31st, 2016, Crossfire Hurricane counterintelligence operation originated from a scheme within the intelligence apparatus by exposing the preceding CIA operation that created the originating “Electronic Communication” memo. Declassify that two-page “EC” document that Brennan gave to Comey.  [The trail is found within the Weissmann report and the use of Alexander Downer – SEE HERE]
♦ Release and declassify all of the Comey memos that document the investigative steps taken by the FBI as an outcome of the operation coordinated by CIA Director John Brennan in early 2016.  [The trail was memorialized by James Comey – SEE HERE]  Release and declassify the declarations of FBI Agent David Archey that describe the purpose of the Comey memos:

♦ Reveal the November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702 search query abuse by declassifying the April 2017 court opinion written by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer. Show the FBI contractors behind the 85% fraudulent search queries. [Crowdstrike? Fusion-GPS? Nellie Ohr? Daniel Richman?]  This was a weaponized surveillance and domestic political spying operation. [The trail was laid down in specific detail by Judge Collyer – SEE HERE]
♦ Subpoena former DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) head John Carlin, or haul him in front of a grand jury, and get his testimony about why he hid the abuse from the FISA court in October 2016; why the DOJ-NSD rushed the Carter Page application to beat NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers to the FISA court; and why Carlin quit immediately thereafter.
♦ Prove the Carter Page FISA application (October 2016) was fraudulent and based on deceptions to the FISA Court. Declassify the entire document, and release the transcripts of those who signed the application(s); and/or depose those who have not yet testified. The creation of the Steele Dossier was the cover-up operation. [SEE HERE]
♦ Release all of the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages without redactions. Let sunlight pour in on the actual conversation(s) that were taking place when Crossfire Hurricane (July ’16) and the FISA Application (Oct ’16) were taking place.  The current redactions were made by the people who weaponized the intelligence system for political surveillance and spy operation.  This is why Page and Strzok texts are redacted!
Release all of Bruce Ohr 302’s, FBI notes from interviews and debriefing sessions, and other relevant documents associated with the interviews of Bruce Ohr and his internal communications. Including exculpatory evidence that Bruce Ohr may have shared with FBI Agent Joseph Pientka. [And get a deposition from this Pientka fella] Bruce Ohr is the courier, carrying information from those outside to those on the inside.
UPDATE August 9th:  Never-mind the Bruce Ohr 302’s, Judicial Watch sued to clear the chamber of this request….  Thanks.

 
 

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171 Responses to DOJ Stall Succeeds – Comey Memo/Archey Declaration Update – Expect Nothing Until After October 11th…

  1. tax2much says:

    Justice delayed is…Oh never mind.

  2. christopher pugh says:

    Time to starve the beast. I am sick and tired of being a tax donkey.

    • margarite1 says:

      The question is how many of us have the courage of the citizens of Hong Kong? Because that’s at least what it would take since voting doesn’t seem to work when the choice is offered from only two corrupt parties and the bureaucrats don’t have to worry about elections.

      • trnathens says:

        What I don’t understand is everyone’s lack of Faith in PDJT and the reveal of what happened. Do you guys trust his plan on International Trade? Even if we don’t know the details, we’ve seen what’s happening, right? And we all agree that THAT is going to take time, but we know there’s a plan.
        Why would you trust that every detail of that plan, which is hugely complicated, would be known by PDJT forwards and backwards, yet somehow that same CEO doesn’t know what’s going on at DOJ/FBI? I don’t think so. And the reveal MUST cause maximum damage, be irrefutable, and include the MSM. Otherwise, who cares.
        There’s a plan in play. We don’t know the plan, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t in motion. If you have Faith in PDJT about the economy, then I suggest you have Faith in the reveal. Go back and read his chapter on revenge. Do you honestly believe a man who wrote that chapter is going to go lightly on the people who tried to destroy him and every member of his nuclear family? Please. You know what I think? I think the attack on his youngest is the motivating factor for him. He’s used to the crap he’s taking, now…it’s just a matter of scale, but his son? What they said about him? As a father, that would be the fuel burning in my belly until I made them pay…just sayin.

        • trnathens- thanks very much for an excellent post. I agree with you about the revenge factor, especially when it comes to one’s children.
          My problem is this: I trust our President Trump completely, by I sure as hell DON’T trust most if not all of the other players around him who hold positions of power. POTUS is one man, the most powerful man in the world some say. But even he can’t act alone on these matters.
          We have seen in the last few years that there is nothing the Swamp Creatures won’t do to try and stop him from changing the world. Formerly “their” world.

          • Dutchman says:

            I’m with Seneca on this one, I’m afraid.
            Wouldn’t hesitate to take a bullet, or expend one, for PDJT.
            BUT, trnathens, right here on these pages I posted comments mirroring yours, regarding Sessions and trusting that there is a,’plan’, and we should trust that plan..
            Taking nothing away from PDJT, I think part of the ‘Con’, lo these many years (that is now being exposed) is this notion that the man occupying the office of POTUS is “the most powerful man in the World”.
            HE is not. In fact over MANY years, rather than developing an ‘Imperial Presidency’as many pundits have written about, there has been a gradual diminution of the powers of the Presidency.
            The Presidency of PDJT has exposed this. Advice and CONSENT has become you will appoint who we tell you to, the administrative state has numerous ways to impede the will of the POTUS, the courts can slow him down, …there were even indication his orders to the military would only be accepted if there was a consensus. OH, and lets talk about his,authority to declassufy.
            No, lets not.
            In other words, the OFFICE of POTUS, holds great power. The man IN that office, not so much,…UNLESS TPTB approve of what he is doing. They want him complient, compromised or complicit.
            I ate crow when after months and months if defending “trust the plan” I finally had to concede that Sessions was sh*t, and there WAS no plan, no 50,000 sealed indictments, no small group of military intelligence agents litening to the,coupists, etc.
            I will joyfully eat crow if I am wrong, again. But, UNTIL I see CONCRETE evidence of Barrs intention to persue Justice, and every one of these miscreants, I “won’t be fooled again”.
            This, despite a recent post where I shared a line of thinking which COULD ‘logically’explain Barrs inaction.
            No hope porn, no ‘trust the plan’, I don’t trust ANYONE in D.C., especially that snake Graham. He says Barr and Durham are doing something, but I don’t BELIEVE him.

            • bkrg2 says:

              Pretty sure i was the last Treeper remaining who believed in AG Jeff Sessions.
              After seeing that implode, I only trust Trump.
              There are some good people in the Administration and they continue to deliver on promises made.
              However, each day that goes by with corrupt scum walking free, brings me closer to believing we will never see justice served

              • James Carpenter says:

                “In your face” mockery by our “elite” of every American who yearns to witness the punishment of corruption in DC will not end on its own. It is growing and self-perpetuating.
                Trump is mortal. Even if he survives the grassy knolls his enemies plan to occupy if all else fails, we serfs, the “peasantry” of our “betters” do, indeed, face daunting odds.
                They are organized.
                They have reliable, inaccessible lines of accounting and communication.
                They have the Bumblehive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center)
                We?
                Think about what you have.
                Husband it.
                Grow it.
                And for the love of God, teach us how we might connect it without engraving an addressed invitation to “Special Squads”.

              • Dutchman says:

                We’ll see, whether we will or won’t see,….justice.

            • trnathens says:

              There IS a plan. Sessions effed it up. Do you think PDJT thought up realigning the World economic order AFTER he got into office? No. Long before. Years. Decades. He’s been thinking of exactly what to do and how to do it, which is why he’s moving so fast, because others don’t see the big picture yet. But he’s painting by numbers, because he designed the painting.
              As for the election lunacy, once Rogers told him what’s up, you think he’s just been floating along, adrift? No. He’s doing the best he can, with the cards he’s been dealt, but look at what we already know, that we never would have known otherwise. There is no going back, he HAS broken the system and is recreating it consistent with Constitutional principles. Evil is rearing it’s head, but will not prevail.
              How? I don’t know. It’s a mystery.

              • Dutchman says:

                I agee. Hard as it is to accept, in the BIG pictute, this vrap in D.C. is small potato’s; like a gnat, buzzing around your head, as yot sighting in on an elephant.
                If there was a choice; either perp walks for ALL the miscreants, but PDJT fails in this economic reset, OR, he succeeds in busting the grip of CCP on China, and wins this world war of globalist conmunism vs. Nationalism, but, the perps though out of power, never go to jail, and you could only have ONE, the choice is pretty clear.
                To me, the D.C. charade is BECAUSE of what he is doing on trade.
                If he had left trade,alone, I am not sure they would have continued their relentless, unprecedented attack.
                But, I think he might get both, by focusing his,attention and efforts on the BIG ekephant in his sights, and ignoring the gnat.

        • swimeasy says:

          Well said trnathens! POTUS is strategic and since the uniparty failed to remove him from office, their objective is now to deny him a second term. I actually wouldn’t mind some bombshells to be released during peak campaign season- the kick off with the IG report and an “October surprise” monthly through Nov 2020.

        • Got243kids says:

          trnathens – Well done.

          • Tom Idlewood says:

            nathens: I agree with the injection of a bit more optimism into the mix. I trust POTUS; but acknowledge the swamp is vast. My lack of patience does not foretell a disappointment. Prosecutions at this level would seem to be very complex – and political. Same way we’ll learn about RBG: all at once.

        • margarite1 says:

          All my faith is in President Trump and virtually none in anyone else. Of course he has a plan and the swamp has its plan.
          You seem to think POTUS has control over the whole situation. Don’t you think if he could this whole thing would have been over long ago? He went to the WH to save this country…not fight off relentless bastards who’d rather see our country destroyed than give up their power. Not that he didn’t know there’d be trouble but who could have imagined how bad it would be.
          I never liked the Q thing of “trust the (imaginary) plan”. It didn’t pan out and I’m not that passive. If we could get massive Trump supporting marches in the streets then I’d be there. Unfortunately we conservatives don’t seem to be that aggressive – maybe it has to get even worse before we as a group are ready. But we should take no security in thinking “oh Trump has a plan”.

          • Rhoda R says:

            The President as CEO of his own company had the freedom to do things that as the CEO of this country he cannot. One is the hiring and firing of personnel. There are also constraints – such as Congress – that he cannot avoid. Given that, President Trump is doing a phenomenal job as POTUS.

  3. I’m willing to wait until the IG report is released…but if there aren’t arrests shortly thereafter….there probably never will be!

    • ristvan says:

      IG report will contain criminal referrals. Those will have to be taken by prosecutors to a federal grand jury (5A clause 1). How fast that goes will depend on the strengthnof Horowitz evidence. That we will be able to judge unless there are heavy redactions to protect the criminal process from potential declass jury bias.
      So ‘shortly’ is in the eye of the beholder. I counsel patience. Besides, Indictments closer to the 2020 election have more impact on it. Biden running on Obama legacy would severely negatively impacted.

      • swimeasy says:

        Yes exactly ristavan! POTUS’ reelection is the highest priority to me!

      • Bogeyfree says:

        And if there are no criminal referrals??

      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Indictments closer to the 2020 election have more impact on it.
        Them better be some BIG TIME crimes backed by obvious irrefutable evidence to wait that long to indict.
        And it better be easy to understand and communicate to Americans “mislead”
        by tales of Russian peepee.

  4. trumpthepress says:

    I suppose timing is everything in this business…the corrupt business in those agencies. If anyone can shred these criminals it is only our great President. He is doing all he can.

  5. lowyder993s says:

    Is this a plan to push all this stuff to Military Tribunals? Barr says he can’t get thru the swamp and punts to the Mil? I believe he was granted authority to say which matters went to Tribunals…

    • straystrat says:

      Can you say, “Charade”??? – What a friggin’ joke!!! – – The band plays on while nothing happens at all…

      • ezpz2 says:

        Yup. That photo that Sundance posts with these – Barr and the bagpipes – is the perfect metaphor of DOJ puffing hot air. Period.

    • rf121 says:

      Please someone show me where, anywhere, in the constitution or maybe in the Federal code where the military has jurisdiction over civilian matters. And if you want to quote an executive order I will refer you back to the constitution.

    • ristvan says:

      5A guarantees your military tribunals are NOT in play for Spygate. Period. Ever.

  6. Mr e-man says:

    I would have liked the 14 day stay better. This way they will wait until October before FILING their appeal. Then there will be months of appeal possibly putting this release past the 2020 election. The coup plotters will be successful again at illegally influencing our elections.
    And weren’t the released Ohr 302’s heavily redacted? Don’t we want the unredacted ones?

  7. Did you ever just want to throw your hands up in the air; scream “screw it” and say call me when its all over. Patience grasshopper – my rectum. I’m heading for the saloon. MAGA anyhow in case I get hit by a car on the way back.

    • lisabrqwc says:

      I literally just yelled “FFS!” with my hands up in the air. I can’t take it. I’ve been verrrrrrry patient these past 2+ years, but for my own mental state, I need to try accepting that nothing and no one is going to be held responsible for a coups attempt. A flippin’ coups attempt!! At this point what would someone have to do to get prosecuted? What crime(s) would be necessary to require justice? I’m just gobsmacked. And so now, I am 99% Eyore with about 1% waiting to be pleasantly surprised. Ugh this makes me so #Q*@$ Mad!!!!!

      • Sharon says:

        Recognizing reality and accepting the facts is not the same as being an Eeyore. Not at all.
        It’s my opinion that those who are quick to label someone an Eeyore are sometimes struggling, unsuccessfully, with recognizing reality and accepting the facts.

        • progpoker says:

          I can accept the facts. It’s the reality part that is challenging. There may be some very good reasons for the delay. Do we think the Judge is in on the plan to bury the case?
          Unfortunateky, we won’t know until we know. I remain cautiously optimistic. I’m just wired that way, I suppose! 😉

        • ezpz2 says:

          So true, Sharon.

      • Green Bucket says:

        I bet if President Trump did the same thing – Congress, Senate, all MSM, and yes, even this AG would line up to destroy him. Sometimes I wish he would SPY on them just to see what the Deep State, MSM, and UniParty hacks would do. (exploding heads).
        If the government won’t clean itself up, it’s going to be up to us. Get your yellow vests people. We’re going to need them if this AG doesn’t do something soon..

    • FrankieZee says:

      Trump better be careful on this. People may just start saying why even bother to vote if the corrupt agencies AKA The Deep Sate are going to continue to run things as they seem fit. Trump has had 2 AG’s who haven’t done DICK. The Republicans in congress are useless as TITS on a bull. Epstein could have outed a lot of DEMORATS, but our Deep State AG let him get murdered. So tell me again why I should vote. The DEMORATS are running everything anyway.

      • Doppler says:

        I agree Frankie Zee, Trump can be very effective as an executive and businessman, but so far, managing his bureaucracy, especially the FBI and DOJ, he has been completely ineffective, and, to his shame, outperformed and outmaneuvered by government lawyers like Rod Rosenstein, James Comey, Bob Mueller, David Horowitz, and even Andrew Weissman and Jim Sessions. Where’s the enthusiasm for re-election supposed to come from out of that mess.

        • StanH says:

          You’re right. We just need to get Joe Biden in there to straighten things out. /s

        • mopar2016 says:

          That’s the plan Doppler.
          They want to demoralize the Trump voters in hopes of them giving up.
          I’m discouraged too but nothing will stop me from voting for PDJT.

        • Chilidog says:

          If Trump declassified everything, isn’t it likely that the deep state would just not do it. The doj wouldn’t hold anyone accountable for not complying. Don’t forget, Brennan still has a security clearance. They ignored Trumps order with impunity.

    • CM-TX says:

      It’s all good, just wear your reflective vest.
      On second thought… maybe not. Calling a friend or Uber might be a safer option? ?

    • I am with you and the first round is on me!

  8. Bill says:

    This little caveat in their rules is beyond frustrating. They get 60 days to “decide” if they will appeal. And you damn well know that at day 60 they WILL appeal. Which at minimum I’m guessing gives them 60 more days, probably more. They are clearly delaying to hope to get passed the election. It’s not speculation, that IS IN FACT what they are doing. Does anyone know how many appeals and 60 day “time to think about appealing” attempts they get? I’m willing to bet it’s enough to get them into the 60 day or whatever window for “not making any political decisions due to the election” window.

  9. For Eyes says:

    Same story for years, new date and details.
    I think mimeograph machines were still in use when this trend began.

  10. SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

    Why do you want everything yesterday?
    If Trump wanted he could’ve released it all in 2017. He didn’t .. for good reason.
    Right into the Democrat primary is perfect.

    • Zorro says:

      Yeah, Trump is going to tell the DOJ when to do things and nobody at the DOJ is going to leak that Trump is “interfering”.

  11. Maga Truth Seeker says:

    I’m very cynical about this whole thing and whether justice will truly be handed down by Barr’s DOJ, or not. However, I would take notice of what President Trump isn’t saying. President Trump has yet to get on Barr’s case on Twitter or in the press about the delaying documents and prolonging this investigation. He was all over Sessions when he was the AG. President Trump has been very coy about the whole thing.
    I remember President Trump getting after FBI Wray a few months back, but that was a one-time thing. President Trump is saying much about McCabe, Comey, etc… and that makes me suspicious.
    Just food for thought.

  12. Ausonius says:

    “Peter the Great did not lop off enough heads.” – J. Stalin
    “Stalin” is Russian for “Man of Steel. His real name was Dlugashvili. A hard, unpleasant man, whose murderous nature brought no consequences: he went to the grave with a smile. For believers, we hope for some sort of Divine Justice in his case.
    We also await the lopping of the first head in this case…a metaphorical lopping, to be sure, but at least it would mean a lopping of power and prestige.
    I suspect we will wait in vain for any consequences, metaphorical or otherwise. As with Stalin, we might need to hope for a higher justice to kick in!

  13. mazziflol says:

    Sessions 2.0 doesnt even need to recuse himself to get nothing accomplished.

  14. beach lover says:

    I’d feel better if Sundance would stop using that picture of Barr!

  15. “If you subscribe to the optimistic perspective the DOJ delay could be related to an intention to release the documents with the IG report(s). However, if you are more cynical, then the DOJ and FBI could be attempting to hide the institutional corruption visible inside the documents. Two possibilities.”
    I’ll go with #2, I’m cynical.

    • Zippy says:

      “I’m cynical.”
      More like a REALIST based upon past experience. Just one example: Barr’s participation in the Iran-Contra coverup. I agree with the GOALS of that activity (killing commies) which was just as illegal if not even more illegal than the SpyGate one, it’s just the coverup I don’t agree with. You do the crime, you do the time. NOT in the case of our higher ups, however.

  16. Bubby says:

    Right now I’m the more cynical type. I wonder why no one has asked President Trump about the 100 day marker? Is Sundance the only blogger questioning this non release period we’re stuck in? Obviously no one in the msm cares if any documents are ever released unless it’s Mueller’s grand jury testimony!

    • Flight93Gal says:

      Bubby,
      • Perhaps WE should all CALL the WH and leave a message for VSGPOTUS, inquiring about the 100 day marker to ask specially whether AG Barr will apply the rule of Law equally and when?
      • WH Switchboard: 202-456-1414

  17. Craig W. Gordon says:

    Big Ugly ain’t ever gonna happen. Move on folks.

  18. Maquis says:

    Tickity-Tock Tick-Ticky-Tock…

  19. For Eyes says:

    The Barr honeymoon period is OVER.
    This is HIS DOJ problem now.
    And by extension, Trump’s
    Anything else is just wishful thinking. There is no solid reason to have confidence that any Justice is forthcoming from the Dept of Justice.

  20. fanbeav says:

    Could President Trump have made the deal with Barr – shut down Mueller and nothing but slow leaks via John Solomon or Sara Carter of what really happened. No indictments to save face for the corrupt DOJ and FBI? Maybe some sort of back deal with Pelosi too? Only talks of impeachment.

    • Zorro says:

      Some deal, POTUS gets persecuted and harassed 24/7 in return for bad guys pursuing false narratives less vigorously?

      • mimbler says:

        Not to mention, that it would be a corrupt agreement. I don’t think PDJT makes corrupt political agreements.

    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Only talks of impeachment.
      Seems like more than talk.
      Fox News reported:
      Democrats in the House Judiciary Committee suggested in a court filing Monday that they have been carrying out an impeachment investigation of President Trump since before Robert Mueller’s report was even submitted, which appears to contradict previous statements by committee chairman Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-court-filing-claims-impeachment-probe-began-before-mueller-submitted-report
      SD has postulated that impeachment, or rather the PROCESS of impeachment is/was the plan.
      Would make sense that if the Dems shift from “process” to “full-blown” in Oct
      ….it would be done to deflect a blow coming from Barr/Durham.
      I’m holding opinion on Barr until then.

  21. Nigella says:

    Extremely disappointing…It’s getting harder to be optimistic

  22. jx says:

    An appeal will be filed Oct 11 4:59 PM. I guarantee it.

  23. terryjlongo says:

    OMB Barr with the bagpipes – hilarious! And tragic,

  24. Merkin Muffley says:

    Enough of this! Doug Collins needs to read this on the House floor!

  25. CountryClassVulgarian says:

    October 11, 20never?

  26. Publius2016 says:

    As always, Depp State only has terror…with back to school country wide, we will have someone who is under direct surveillance commit more false flags once the report drops! very sad situation but the American People can only “see and hear” one major story at a time…remember how El Paso happened once it was confirmed that three of the five eyes, Italy, Australia and UK were in cahoots!
    History is being rewritten by digital companies as the most recent FAKE Ruth Bader Ginsburg sighting and the revealing of COVFEFE

  27. Zorro says:

    Release the Kraken.

  28. mopar2016 says:

    I’m not optimistic about this case and I expect more delays.
    From what I’ve read judge Boasberg is an obama appointee that was recommended to him by Eleanor Holmes Norton. Boasberg was confirmed with a vote of 96 ayes to 0 nays.
    “On April 26th 2012 Boasberg ruled that the public had no right to view government photos of a deceased Osama Bin Laden”.

  29. Why demand the memos? Is Comey known to tell the truth?

    • Ray Runge says:

      A daily diary type chronicle of events will permit a ton of grist for the mill. That is, as Comey’s self serving tale is contradicted by untold number of other criminal players, the questions can create a prosecutorial narrative.
      BUT that assumes some one is interested in a prosecutorial approach.

    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Not Comey memos.
      Archey Declarations

  30. Mr bandwagon says:

    Who thinks Sundance is a woman ….

  31. Ray Runge says:

    Clearly a strategy born of the current urban food growing industry.
    Mushroom cultivation: keep them in the dark and plenty of manure art the roots.

  32. Dave says:

    You need to add a skeleton pic to the collage of Mr Bean.

  33. I may be an optimist, but I think that it is highly possible that comey’s memos would be used in any criminal action against him. That being the case, they cannot be made public at this point. That would destroy that evidence and would make it unusable in a court of law. JMHO

    • mimbler says:

      I don’t know why that would prevent them from being made public. Videos that are going to be used in criminal action are made public every day. Why would documents be different?

    • jx says:

      Giuliani has said that there is no need for a criminal prosecution to wait on the IG report.
      The IG report is “internal affairs” – personnel.
      No one else would be afforded these delays, they would be prosecuted promptly.
      The DOJ is doing their utmost to create the most time consuming process possible.

  34. A few comments here:
    (1) These documents are James Comey’s own words, and no one else’s. And, at this point, James Comey is (presumably) soon to be “a criminal defendant. He is not an innocent bystander; he is not “a witness.”
    (2) James Comey has every reason in the world to want to put “his version of the so-called truth” in front of the public, and to do so before any criminal charges against him might be filed. If this happens, and especially if it is then spread far-and-wide by CNN, by a “New York Times® Best-Seller” and so forth, he can use this as a lever against any Jury or Grand Jury.
    (3) The use of “Archer” is merely a foil. While Comey’s own words could be refuted as possibly containing secret materials, the single very-simple layer of indirection provided by Archer serves as whitewash.
    These are, one and all, thoroughly evil men who are very knowledgeable about how to “game” the United States legal system.

    • Nigella says:

      I do wonder why we should believe Comeys own “Dear diary” papers?

    • Mike, I really appreciate your insights. I’m frustrated like everyone else, but I do trust our president. So I’m going to stay optimistic, knowing that he is cunning and will do what he can when the time is right. We have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes.

    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      These documents are James Comey’s own words, and no one else’s
      Mike– just to make sure people don’t get confused.
      The documents referenced in this CNN case ARE NOT COMEY”S OWN WORDS.
      They ARE Archey’s
      You can literally READ them above.
      SD posted a picture OF THEM.
      (It’s the one with the black marks.)
      This delay is in regards to REMOVING THOSE BLACK MARKS.
      And from the looks of what WE CAN SEE…..Archey is NOT even quoting Comey’s memos AKA Comey’s OWN WORDS
      but is speaking very generically about what’s in the memos
      An example of an Archey Declaration from above
      “the code name and true identity of a confidential source”
      THAT’S IT.
      NOT the actual code name or actual identity.
      THOSE are in the Comey memos.
      Don’t get me wrong….something damaging is under those black marks..
      perhaps like……
      “the code name of an operation using foreign academics (PLURAL)”
      “the code name and actual name of a confidential source within the White House”
      But I’m willing to make bank that what’s under them aren’t COMEY”S OWN WORDS.
      And certainly NO ADMISSION OF STAND-ALONE CRIMINAL ACTIONS
      Because Archey made his “declarations” to a JUDGE.

  35. toocoolus says:

    I keep looking at the plaintiff (CNN) that is pushing for the release of the memos. CNN would NEVER take on this task for the betterment of the general public. I believe the Lawfare Group (or some other conniving POS group is behind the push to actually help Comey get this information out to the public because he knows they’re coming to get him; and now, he has his partner-in-crime (McCabe) working at CNN to help deliver the phony meaning on the memos. My guess (and hope) is that the DOJ doesn’t want the memos released now prior to any expected indictment against Comey (and McCabe) that may be now in the works, and having the memos out in full view to everyone would not be helpful to a prosecutor…trying to remain optimistic here…

    • jebg46 says:

      That certainly explains why CNN wants Comey’s memos’ Archey explanations disclosed. Because it doesn’t make sense why they would want any of it public. Your explanation actually re-establishes some hope that Barr’s DOJ is going toward “Equal Justice” for all.

  36. chojun says:

    Likely purely an effort to keep the memos out of the IG report.
    If Barr has good intentions, then he’ll declassify the memos alongside the IG report release.
    I suspect this is why Trump gave Barr the authority – so that no person or organization can impede the IG report.

  37. ristvan says:

    Lurking Lawyer here.
    There are two separate issues, only one worth getting upset about.
    1. Why is DoJ balking. Leads one to suspect something potentially bad is in those materials, and that is potentially upsetting. But we won’t know until they are released.
    2. Judge Boasberg’s Minute order today. That’s bog standard procedural law. Simple logic. DoJ claimed potential ‘harm’ in resisting the CNN FOIA request. It lost the resist attempt because FOIA is clear and ‘harm’ is not an FOIA transparency consideration at all. Now, if released and ‘harmed’, is irremediable IF the ruling was in error. So, if DoJ appeals claiming Judge Boasberg ruled wrongly after release, the asserted harm would be irremediable. So DOJ either has to appeal by Oct 11 (but on what possible grounds, one wonders, given the clear sunlight disinfectant intent of FOIA), or the materials will he released on Oct 11. This stuff is beneath Barr’s level of attention UNLESS the appeal grounds is hokum. Then he will have to step in to avoid DoJ embarrassment.
    The time to mid October will be interesting. Horowitz and this all in 6 weeks.

    • redthunder238 says:

      I have no faith that Horowitz will release any time this year.

      • ristvan says:

        Barr said to Congress late May June. But then the State Kavalec memos appeared that Horowotz had not been given by FBI. Several months delay would be standard under circumstances. And no point in August doldrums release. I predict Sept, or if declass is involved, early Oct. Its coming shortly after Labor Day weekend.

  38. jx says:

    Would releasing the Comey Memos and/or Archey Declarations modify the upcoming IG report on James Comey? I don’t see how.
    Would releasing the Comey Memos and/or Archey Declarations modify the upcoming IG report on DOJ/FBI FISA abuse? I don’t see how.
    It’s another gratuitous delay, another truckload of DOJ BS.

  39. Garavaglia says:

    Expect nothing period.

  40. MacKenzie says:

    AG Barr could override anyone in the DOJ/FBI and order the data to be released.
    If Barr is declining to override, there must be a reason. If the reason is justice-related, then it may be a good thing. If the reason is institutional protection/corruption-related, then that would be a bad thing.
    But President Trump — who now is no longer hindered by an ongoing Special Counsel investigation — could order the DOJ/FBI to release the memos. I have to assume that the president is fully aware of what is in the memos and has his own mind as to whether or not they should be released right now. It’s hard to believe he is uninformed on this matter.

  41. Mr bandwagon says:

    See what a little training can do, no more leaks ,,,have faith 🙂

  42. logboom says:

    This is utter B.S. History will not be kind.

  43. Deplorable Canuck says:

    It’s like “waiting for Gedot.” Has to be pretty frustrating for you Patriots!

  44. StanH says:

    This is perhaps largest political scandal in the history of the USA. The corruption runs deep and wide. I’m not a lawyer but I’ve hired a few in my life, EVERYTHING TAKES A LONG TIME!
    Though I want perp walks as well like yesterday, but I also want it done right. people are complaining about President Trump’s management skills, that always makes me chuckle. He has to work within a system for that is stacked against him. Even with that he is exceeding my expectations on a daily basis, folks he’s killing it. He must face down the, DOJ, CIA, NSA, EPA, IRS, :et al. He’s an existential threat alright, all things swamp. If hadn’t won in 2016 that could have been the death knell for the USA.
    KAG! …by asking, if not President Trump then who?

  45. WVNed says:

    You better not get out on line serfs or the law will come down on you.
    Don’t expect the same treatment as those migrants showing up at the border.

  46. islandpalmtrees says:

    FBI & DOJ Closed On Account Of Corruption
    —-September 1, 2019—

  47. Comrade Mope says:

    I like to look on the bright side. I’ll never be called for jury duty ever again.
    “I can be fair and impartial, but Hillary is still not in jail. Nor is….”

  48. 100 days and the full authority to declassify the documents requested by Congress and the DoJ has not declassed a single document.
    Disappointing but not surprising.

    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Even JW is saying they have done more than the FBI and DOJ to reveal corruption. And, it’s true!

  49. Kristin DeBacco says:

    Alex, disappointedly I take bagpipes for a $1000

  50. AnotherView says:

    Let’s face it, Barr is a corrupt shitbag.

  51. islandpalmtrees says:

    I know, I keep beating the drums on this. But, the FBI and DOJ could have put an end to this three years ago. By releasing the Hillary Clinton emails from the NSA Database, By disproving the DNC hacking by revealing the emails in the DNC Database, by releasing the text messages and email content between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok in the DNC Database.
    So don’t be disappointed if Barr is just another corrupt politician. We will know, soon.

  52. redhotrugmama says:

    The question that keeps on rolling around in my brain is why did Wray and Barr who were likely high paid attorneys working in a upscale private law firm quit their jobs to work for PDT at what is likely 2 to 3 times less annual salary? They aren’t doing it for the money. Lately I am beginning to think they are doing it to protect the deep state.

    • Super Elite says:

      Money from the Deep State?

    • Barr was retired and a former Attorney General; I would not put him in the same category as Wray.

      • Baby El says:

        Have to agree with LittleFlower. One might assert Barr’s hands are unclean. But certainly not to the level where he could be pushed to return to the DOJ as a clean-up man.
        Mueller, on the other hand, was so dirty that he had no choice – even though he’s almost as senile as Biden.
        Until all the cards are on the table, we can only speculate and make inferences.

    • Robert Justice says:

      I prefer to think Barr (not sure about Wray) took these jobs for the same reason Trump did, to try to take the U.S. back from the globalist deep state and get the country back from the deep corruption that has taken over for most of the past century. The Federal Reserve creation in 1913 started it, and things have been getting worse ever since.
      If it turns out Barr is just covering up for the deep state I fear there is no hope and the country will be lost for a thousand years.
      Unless, Trump has strong support from the military, declares Martial Law, arrests all the coup plotters and tries them in military tribunals. See, hope springs eternal.

    • GP says:

      If Barr and Wray turn out to be anything other than protectors of the DS-my shock will be nearly at the level it was on 9/11. Perhaps even more shocked if people like Clapper, Comey et al are held to any kind of account.

  53. Remington says:

    Right you are, Sundance. I expect….nothing….FUBAR

  54. rayvandune says:

    If that is Mr. Bean, why is he facing into traffic on the right side of the road?

  55. cheryl says:

    If anybody has already made this comment, sorry. I’m on the road and was listening to Glenn Beck this morning talking to John Solomon. Solomon told Beck that Trump gave Barr discretion to get the unredacted documents he needed from the FBI and DOJ for his investigation only. He said Trump was going to create an office where all these memos and documents we have been waiting for will be released and explained to the public so that people can understand how the Russia investigation was started and why.

  56. Mr bandwagon says:

    So .. who in here trusts their Government .

    • Newt Love says:

      If you would have posted
      So .. who in here DOESN’T trust their Government?
      You would have received many likes, including mine!

  57. Kent says:

    President Trump can declassify all of this today. He can order it made public today. He can make the judges order worth nothing. Trump has the power to give. the information to the American citizens.

    • John55 says:

      He does not have that power. He can give those orders, but he can’t make the FBI or DOJ obey them. Not without some support from Congress, and Congress is openly backing the coup.

      • Raptors2020 says:

        What if they gave a war, and nobody came? Bureaucrats have defied Trump many times. And Senators like McConnell and Grassley have made it clear they won’t back Trump.

      • JL says:

        He most certainly does have that power.
        The question is does he have the political power to do it, and is he willing to spend the political capital to make it happen.

        • GP says:

          Hi JL-If I read and understood SD, there’s a process to declass even on orders from POTUS-several agency heads have to sign off on the declass.
          I don’t think it’s as easy as POTUS saying “give me all you got”, (channeling Pacino in the movie ‘Heat”) the docs are delivered, unredacted and are posted on a website.

  58. cantcforest says:

    Fantasyland: Rudy G. orchestrates the release of unredacted documents, to be followed by indictments as the public/Devin Nunes/Jim Jordan demand. Sheriff David Clarke, together with adviser emeritus Joe Arapaio takes charge of immigration enforcement, and Sundance and Judicial Watch prosecute the Clintons and Obamas. President Trump enjoins the court system to weigh in on journalism and libel.
    (For those of you who see 1984 writ large, I’d like to suggest that you search out a prescient Asimov Foundation novel from the 1950’s in which the protagonist (Seldon?) had reduced media misdirection to a science.)

  59. GB Bari says:

    The stills of Rowan Atkinson (Rat Race?) are illustrative of how some of us feel.
    Not much we can do other than continue to write our Senators and/ or Representatives to inform them of our disgust with their lack of leadership in not putting public pressure on a corrupt DOJ.
    The Big Ugly is truly ugly….but for whom?

  60. John55 says:

    If there was anything damaging to the DOJ/FBI or helpful to Trump in these Comey memo’s, CNN – which is openly an arm of the Resistance and working with the coup plotters in the DOJ and FBI – would not be fighting for their release.

    • Raptors2020 says:

      Or..CNN still genuinely believes the Russian Collusion fairy tale. They pray Mueller missed something big, and they intend to keep digging. Isn’t that Nadler’s rationale?

    • Baby El says:

      Or… CNN (CIA Mouthpiece) wants the memos to hang the whole mess on Comey, leaving everyone else and the Zero admin untouched.
      McCabe changed sides to save his own arse.

  61. Willyeye57 says:

    Sundance says, “On May 23rd, 2019, President Donald Trump gave U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr full authority to review and release all of the classified material hidden by the DOJ, FBI, State Department, CIA, FISA Court, and aggregate intelligence apparatus.
    This Friday, August 30th, will mark 100 days since President Trump granted Bill Barr with the authority to declassify these documents. Nothing has been declassified by the Department of Justice.”
    I’m no expert with any of this and I was wondering if anyone knows about this: If Barr has declassified a bunch of documents for the Durham and Horowitz investigations, how would anyone know about this? Do we actually know that nothing has been declassified? How would we know unless there have been leaks? Also, if a bunch of documents have been declassified for the investigations, wouldn’t that preclude them from being declassified for anyone else?

  62. DJ says:

    Quite obviously, there will be nothing coming on October 11. They will wait until the last minute on that day and then file their appeal. That will lock the docs up for a year or more. Most likely until after the election where the hope is a new administration will bury them forever.

  63. Ned Zeppelin says:

    I’ll go out on a limb on some things I’ve been thinking about. I think if Barr, Huber (perhaps) and Durham to plan to unveil broad and sweeping indictments of the RICO variety it makes perfect sense to say nothing, leak nothing, release nothing, and remain hidden in plain sight. When you are strong, let the enemy think you weak. Unfortunately, this is also consistent with doing nothing at all. Indicting Andy McCabe for lying to the FBI seems to offer the same amount of gratification one might derive by arresting Ted Bundy for jaywalking. If Barr, Huber and Durham are going whale hunting, spearing guppies is likely not in the playbook. I think Barr has no choice but to go to war, but I think sometimes we underestimate the power, might and sheer arrogance of the assembled opponents. They are vicious and will not go quietly. We as a group have a mindset that right is right and let’s get on with this. Our opponents simply do not agree, and think us fools for what they must view as our quaint beliefs and values. Mere political motivations do not explain the focused intensity of purpose and planning displayed by the dark forces at work behind all of this. Barr & Co. know they must tread carefully. Think through what would really happen if Tuesday after Labor Day an announcement is made that what we think serves Justice is actually finally happening. It would trigger a landslide of consequences, many unpredictable, some violent.

    • Raptors2020 says:

      If Barr indicts multiple senior Obama officials for lying, and nothing else? It would look like naked payback. The MSM would go nuts, the Dems would go nuts. Barr would quickly be impeached.

      • neal s says:

        So are you suggesting that if Barr indicts multiple senior Obama officials for something more serious than lying, that the MSM would not go nuts? That Dems would not go nuts?
        It seems that no matter what anyone in the current administration does, if it helps to either MAGA or KAG, that demonrats and MSM go nuts.

        • raptors2020 says:

          Lying in Washington? Why not breathing? We need a malum in se crime. Were Strzok and Page plotting the President’s assassination? That is much speculated, and explains Wray’s refusal to release their text messages.
          McCabe said two Trump Cabinet members would vote to invoke the 25th Amendment. How did he know that? Was he lobbying Cabinet members to overthrow our President? That sounds like Sedition to me.
          McCabe and Rosenstein discussed Rosenstein wearing a wire, to incriminate the President. They both admit this. Now Rosenstein is a plotter. Strzok and Page were present. Add them.
          And who were these Cabinet members, who discussed removing the President? Now you have a bi-partisan Sedition plot. That destroys claims Barr is a partisan hit man.
          Add your petty lying charges, after you have something meaty like Sedition.
          While the Left will condone Sedition, the great middle among Americans will not.

    • Baby El says:

      Ned – thanks for posting a clear and plausible perspective. For all the doubts we have have, this also is a sensible explanation for what we’ve been seeing.

  64. Bogeyfree says:

    So I ask again, what if there are no criminal referrals in the IG Report?

  65. See cartoon Case Law ……
    Lucy. vs. Charlie Brown …
    ” I promise NOT TO move the football ” !

  66. neal s says:

    I understand it is very easy to get discouraged based on lack of visible progress. But I do have some advice that I hope will be useful. Consider this my recipe for happiness.
    Hope for much, expect little, be content with even less.
    Hope is essential. Without hope, how can you go on? Expecting too much often leads to disappointment. But if even your low expectations are not met, if you can manage to still be content, then you are not as despondent as you could be or as some already are.
    In addition to this, I also suggest prayer without ceasing. I often pray that the enemies be ever more and even more ridiculous than they already are, so that eyes of others may be opened and their hearts turned away from evil.

  67. Arrest Soros says:

    I have a suggestion.
    Those of us with social media accounts start a campaign where every day and all day we tweet to POTUS asking him to declassify and that we are losing (lost?) confidence in HIS DOJ and FBI.
    Keep doing it and he will eventually see the tweets etc. If enough are seen by him, he may start asking some questions of Barr.
    POTUS is an extremely busy man. He may not be aware of the shenaningans being played by the DOJ.

  68. fangdog says:

    IMO. Trump is being practical. Trump knows what he can achieve without a Congress majority and what is difficult or even impossible with the present Congress and Rino’s. Trump is making MAGA with the tools he has presently.
    Trump knows he is going to be elected and the favorable Congress he will have to get done what he can not get done today. Trump’s emphasis is the American economy and economic wealth for the American people. This is something Trump can and is doing something about now.
    As far as the justice/crime part, this Country has had crime infested crooked politicians running this Country many times during its past. Trump does not need this overwhelming distraction right now with unfavorable odds. However, there will come a time and place the reward will be the needed solution.

  69. Sundance, Barr is never going to do what you ask: “release these materials to the public.” At least, not until the trials are concluded and the defendants have lost their appeals before the Supreme Court – which is where every one of them will inevitably go.
    These materials are criminal evidence. There are strict rules concerning Evidence, and concerning what Prosecutors may say before a trial. These people have not yet been indicted by a Grand Jury and remain “cloaked in a glowing robe of Innocence.” The Grand Juries who must hand down the indictments always are convened in secret, and nothing is made public except the indictments themselves, if there be any.
    James Comey wrote his own version of the events – certainly, a mixture of truth and lies – and hoped to “poison the jury well” by having them be published far and wide. He used Mr. Archey’s summarizations as a means to do this. He has been successfully blocked, and this is probably an indication of the amount of time that will elapse before he is arrested.
    Of course “the Court of Public Opinion” wants to read the juicy details right away, but that won’t get the perpetrators convicted. In fact, it would make it extremely difficult to convict them. So, secrecy is what we must expect and must wish for … frustrating though it may be. We are aware of some of the materials that will be presented at Trial, but there’s probably a great deal more that we have not an inkling of.
    “The judicial procedures are what they are,” and they must be scrupulously followed in order to avoid creating a legal loophole that would allow the perps to escape justice. They will be represented by the most expensive defense lawyers obtainable, who will appeal their convictions all the way to the Supreme Court.

  70. I won't back down says:

    Now we have the memos?

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