Details Behind Patrick Byrne Allegations of FBI “Political Espionage”…

Former CEO Patrick Byrne has given four primary interviews where he outlines his knowledge of a 2015 and 2016 political espionage operation being run by the FBI.

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After a review of the interviews, and extracting specific points therein, here’s an overview.

The substance of Mr. Byrne claims does seem to align with what we already know about the DOJ and FBI activity during the 2016 election cycle, including the FBI operations.

First, Patrick Byrne claims he has spoken to the DOJ on April 5th, 2019, and again on April 30th, 2019.  Mr. Byrne states he told the DOJ all of the information he was aware of during those two interviews covering approximately seven hours of questioning.

The current public statements Mr. Byrne is making are not with the approval of the DOJ or any investigators therein.  His decision to go public with this information comes as a result of conversations with a life-long mentor and confidant, Warren Buffett.  Mr. Byrne states he has known Warren Buffett since Byrne was a teenager and Mr. Buffett was in his mid-forties.

According to his CNN interview Byrne talked to Buffett in June of 2019 about how he could be a witness in the DOJ investigation authorized by Attorney General Bill Barr and being conducted by U.S. Attorney John Durham.  After listening to the details, Buffett recommended Mr. Byrne go public with the story.

However, in order to go public Byrne would need to separate himself from his role as CEO of Overstock, the company Byrne founded.  Mr. Byrne resigned yesterday, August 22nd.

Byrne explains he told Buffett about his April conversations with the DOJ and Buffett said it didn’t matter… Byrne still needed to go public with the story. It sounds like there are several motives for going public; perhaps one is personal safety.

To verify his April DOJ discussion, Byrne points to two references:

♦First, the movement of Maria Butina from harsh isolation in prison on May 9th, ten days after he delivered his testimony to the DOJ.  According to Byrne Ms. Butina was moved to a very different White Collar facility based on his information.

♦The second reference point Byrne highlights is the May 13th DOJ appointment of John Durham to look into the origination of the Russia investigation events. Byrne says this too was a direct result of his two DOJ sessions April 5th and 30th.

If Byrne is accurate; and if his claims of him personally being an operative of the FBI with instructions to engage Ms. Butina inside the political espionage events structured by corrupt FBI officials are genuine; it would appear Special Counsel Robert Mueller facilitated throwing a bag over Ms Butina in an effort to keep the corrupt FBI intelligence operation hidden from the public. This would explain the Mueller demand for strict solitary isolation and confinement.  [The reports are indeed troubling]

Again, if Byrne is correct, it would appear that extremely significant and exculpatory Brady material -evidence that could easily prove an entrapment defense- was intentionally withheld from Ms. Butina’s defense team.   Alarmingly this points to ongoing corrupt officials that still remain inside the current DOJ.  Ms. Butina was collateral damage.

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A review of the time-frame details provided by Patrick Byrne in the four interviews shows his story told four times is consistent each time.

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Here’s a brief review of the consistencies aspect:

After a cursory meeting in/around July 2015, Byrne claims in the period of September to December 2015 he reported contact with Russian national Ms. Maria Butina to the FBI as a precaution related to his security clearance.

Byrne claims he was asked to participate in an FBI intelligence operation and to introduce, and/or facilitate the introduction of, Ms. Butina to the campaigns of Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.

In December of 2015 Mr. Byrne became suspicious of the FBI motives because he warned FBI officials of a potential that his efforts, his reputation and those who trust him, may result in Butina gaining entry into campaign confidences.  The FBI agents told Byrne that was exactly the intent; people high up in the FBI wanted Ms. Butina to gain deep access into the Trump campaign.  Mr. Byrne became suspicious of a corrupt political motive, but didn’t say anything at the time.

Additionally Byrne’s assistance was requested for an investigation of a high-level government official, he later named as Hillary Clinton.

[Sidebar: It’s noteworthy that during these FBI engagements Byrne was never requested to facilitate Ms. Butina into the Bernie Sanders campaign.  The inference in that omission is the Dem primary was rigged, and the riggers saw no value wasting time on Bernie]

In/around Feb or March 2016 Byrne was told to focus Ms. Butina’s attention to the campaign of Donald Trump and to diminish any attention toward Rubio or Cruz.

The assistance of the investigation of the federal official (Hillary Clinton) ended in late June and early July of 2016.  Immediately thereafter Ms. Clinton was publicly -and unusually- cleared by FBI Director James Comey on July 5th, 2016.

In/around this same June & July time-frame (2016), FBI agents requested Mr. Byrne to focus on developing a closer romantic relationship with Ms. Butina and to use his influence to target her to closer proximity with the Trump family and Trump campaign.

It was within these June and July 2016 engagements where FBI agents were apologetic about the requests and specifically mentioned their instructions were coming from three principle FBI officials Byrne described as “X, Y and Z”.   Later Byrne identified FBI Director James Comey as “Z”.

In the Fox MacCallum interview Byrne named James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Bill Priestap, John Carlin (DOJ-NSD) and Peter Strzok.   Mr. Byrne said the specific instructions were coming to the agents from Special Agent Peter Strzok as he relayed the requests of those above him [X, Y and Z (Comey)].

This FBI contact structure highlights an arms-length operation; perhaps intentionally constructed to create plausible deniability for those above the directly instructing agents.

In essence, these rank-and-file FBI agents were asking Patrick Byrne to be a civilian handler of a Russian national, and instructing him to carry out a covert counterintelligence operation.  The FBI agents were apologetic about asking a civilian to take on such a role.

♦ Ms. Maria Butina (pictured left) is described as a young Russian idealist, who had strong connections to high powered Russian oligarchs.

The purpose of Butina coming to the U.S., as explained by Byrne, was for her to engage with influential Americans for contacts that could provide geopolitical value to the oligarchs.

Patrick Byrne was seen as important to Ms. Butina due to his connections to the emerging financial structures of crypto-currency and block-chain.  Byrne is a libertarian who believes in small government, and is somewhat of a disruptor in the business world. Ms. Butina wanted to introduce Byrne to her friends in Russia.

While it was not outlined in any of the four interviews, alternative currency options to the U.S. dollar have been an ongoing effort of Russian interests for a while.  Russia considers global trade attached to the dollar as geopolitical problem; and they have been working for years on alternative currencies for trade (and their own wealth) that can avoid U.S. sanctions and the reach of the U.S. treasury.

♦ As a Russian national with specific Russian interests that are not in alignment with U.S. national interests, Maria Butina would be defined by the U.S. intelligence community as an ‘agent of a foreign power’.   Her status would mean unrestricted monitoring by the U.S. intelligence community would be entirely legal.

However, because of this ‘foreign agent’ status Ms. Butina could also be valuable as a virus to infect anyone the U.S. intelligence apparatus would wish to target domestically.  This motive appears to be the reason for the FBI to tell Mr. Byrne where to send Ms. Butina.

Conducting FISA-702(16)(17) database searches and surveillance on U.S. persons who would meet with Butina would be justifiable and legal.

Extended contact with any U.S. person could likely lead to a Title-1 surveillance warrant through the FISA court.  However, even without the warrant, 702 searches would be valid just from brief contact.

As we have shown FISA-702(“16” to-from) and (“17” about) queries were off the charts during the time-frame of November 2015 through May 2016.  Per the FISA audit conducted by NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers, after the flags noted by the database compliance officer, 85% of the search returns were unauthorized and unmasked.

The time-frames here are too coincidental to be accidental. [Judge Collyer Report]

From the operational description of Mr. Patrick Byrne it would appear Ms. Butina was used by the FBI to “dirty-up” political targets, opening them up for surveillance.

The FBI/NSA database can be used in real time, or in historic mapping, to monitor people simply by entering their cell phone number and filtering the geolocation.   Additionally, texts, call logs, emails, and sensitive electronic communication can all be reviewed by officials using this database.

Perhaps we will learn more as this story unfolds.  Until then, what Patrick Byrne is describing is an illicit and intentional use of an FBI counterintelligence operation to monitor the political campaign of the opposing party.

Maria Butina likely did have sketchy intentions from a U.S. strategic interest perspective; and monitoring her was perhaps justifiable.  However, specifically directing Butina on where to go and who to meet is another kettle-o-fish entirely.

That corrupt aspect is likely why Mueller, Weissmann and the corrupt small group within the DOJ and FBI, wanted Butina locked away in strict isolation.

♦ Lastly, it’s worth noting in the Fox Business interview, Patrick Byrne describing in hindsight being offered a $1 billion bribe of sorts to stay quiet.  This has peaked many curious questions; however, it is worth noting a bribe as described could come in a multitude of forms for a businessman who operates a massive corporation.

In 2018 Mr. Byrne’s company, Overstock, was under an SEC investigation.

(LINK)

I’m sure it is just a coincidence, but FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok’s wife, Melissa Hodgman, happens to be the Assoc. Director of the SEC Enforcement Division, who happened to be leading the SEC investigation of Patrick Byrne’s company. [LINK]

So the wife of the FBI agent who was directing Patrick Byrne in the sketchy FBI operation targeting Donald Trump… just happens to open an investigation of Byrne shortly after the corrupt FBI operation containing her husband first hit the headlines in early 2018.

I wonder if the elimination of that SEC investigation was worth, oh, say $1 billion.

Huh, imagine that?

Coincidences.

Small world.

[LINK to SEC]

 

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828 Responses to Details Behind Patrick Byrne Allegations of FBI “Political Espionage”…

  1. Chuck says:

    Oh what a tangled web we weave……….

    Liked by 19 people

    • nimrodman says:

      Geez, Sundance, you sure can dig in !
      It’s only been a matter of hours for your to come up with this exhaustive an article

      Amazed

      Liked by 29 people

      • RobInPA says:

        Yes. Amazing, indeed!

        Time and time again, within short-order of a ‘breaking’ story coming out, sundance will produce a lengthy and very informative and well contrusted and detailed article on such news, complete with all of the appropriate / relevant ‘exhibits’ and supporting documents.

        Not quite sure how he/she/they pull it off?!

        sundance is obviously very well organized and can instantly pull referenced information from a repository of sorts, and has his/her ear pretty close to the rail as it were.

        Perhaps there is a degree of clairvoyance involved, and article are pre / partially written knowing what will be breaking?!

        Thank you sundance (and your team?)!!

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        • Nobodysfool says:

          Too bad The Powers That Be, the people that could blow the lid off, push out indictments like water over a dam, lock ’em up, don’t listen to Sundance. Too bad, indeed.

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          • Pedro Morales says:

            A big shout out to Martha McCallum for being so hot! And smart. But mostly for being hot!

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          • Pedro Morales says:

            Barr and Durham would not be turning over rocks if this was a whitewash. The only whitewash they are doing is with the NSA. Trump, Barr, Pompeo Pence, Nunes, Graham, et al want to protect the NSA. Its understandable as it is a powerful tool. And so now we enter the endgame. The small group is now expendable. They could not draw the line at Pappy. Its being moved back. they can not afford to let the public know that they have been abusing the NSA database for decades. Its not practical to try and protect the small group any longer. They were sloppy and careless. Comey Brennan and Clappper have to go down to protect NSA abuse and tools. Lets blame a bunch of mini J Edgar Hoovers for using human spies on both Hillary and the Reps. If they focus on that, they can hide the NSA abuse. We basically have a 4th branch of government that considers itself independent from the Legislative Executive and Judicial branches of government. They are not liberals or democrats. They are not partisans. They simply want to compromise and blackmail everyobe. They are Hoover. He didnt give a damn about Dem or Rep, he just wanted to consolidate his own power.Same deal today

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        • Two questions:

          1) WHY is Hillary Clinton named as a “High Ranking Government Official?” Didn’t her formal gov’t employment status end when she resigned from Obama’s State Dept in ‘12? Does this mean Butina was in country that early?

          2) WHAT would the FBI (Comey?) be attempting in respect to an investigation of HRC? Was it simply “For Show” to provide her with plausible deniability if their scheme was uncovered, or to obfuscate their intention (installing HRC and “framing” her biggest Dem challenger AND the ultimate GOP nominee?

          -OR-

          Was Comey and a higher-up like Obama simply digging for leverage on HRC?

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      • Baby El says:

        Sundance is really a visitor from the future.

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        • Matt Bracken says:

          “Sundance is really a visitor from the future.”

          What is really cool, an aspect that that just “strzok” me, is that you just KNOW that all of the principal conspirators read CTH in granular detail with their first coffee every morning, wondering if today is the day another truth-grenade will land on their laps.

          Then they wonder if they should call their lawyers to request another meeting with Horowitz to “update” their testimony. All while wondering which of their dirty pals are singing like canaries to Durham’s grand jury, and if they will be left holding the shitty end of the short straw when all the singing is over, and the indictments land like Scud missiles on their front doors.
          To X, Y, Z and all the rest who read this: I hope you all rot in prison, in abject disgrace, until the ends of your naturals.

          Now, go call your lawyers, and request those “addendum” interviews. It’s not to late to “correct the record.” But soon it will be.

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          • James Carpenter says:

            With trillions at stake, how much should we suppose a bribe for Sundance silence would be worth?
            Among my hopes, one of the biggies is that Sundance is of good cheer, not depressed or feeling the least bit suicidal.

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        • Pa Hermit says:

          Quite a “Time Traveler” no less!

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      • From the beginning of this Russian Collusion conspiracy story, I have suspected and contended that this was a plot developed and implemented by the Obama Administration Counterintelligence apparatus, the FBI and Justice Dept. (I didn’t know then that the State Dept. was involved, too). Anyway, I’ve been saying all along, these past years, that they planned to smear WHOEVER the Republican nominee turned out to be with these Russian Collusion accusations.

        The story being told by Patrick Byrne supports my suspicions. The Obama Administration used Russian operatives they themselves engaged, hired, paid and sent to infiltrate GOP campaigns in order to justify spying on those campaigns. I suspect we’re going to learn other “Russians” were hired to dirty up Jeb Bush, John Kasich and other GOP candidates, too. We’re going to find out that the FISA-702(16)(17) database searches were conducted on every one of the GOP candidates. This was the plan…. and it is the dumbest plan I’ve ever seen.

        It is hard to know how to react to the knowledge that our own government, which is responsible for protecting our freedom and security, used their vast power and surveillance capabilities to affect the outcome of the 2016 Presidential election in favor of Hillary Clinton. But that’s what they did.

        It indicates to me that they knew she was a terribly flawed candidate and that she would not win the election by her own efforts or on her own merits. They also had to know the electorate was very angry with the Obama Administration’s stomping all over the American way of life. They knew we were fed up. They were trying to continue their march toward fundamental transformation and needed Hillary in the White House to get it done. Thank God their efforts failed miserably.

        Think about the massive cheating and interference we’re learning about… President Trump won the election in spite of them. Can you imagine the margin of victory he would’ve had if the Obama Administration had not done this? If they had not abused their access to power to befoul our electoral process?

        Democrats think the American people are clamoring to return these thoroughly corrupt bastards to power? So they can continue to their agenda to destroy us?

        Those who did this must face justice. They MUST! They must be indicted, tried, convicted, sentenced, fined, imprisoned and left to rot… there must be HELL TO PAY for this massive lawlessness.

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        • fernpel says:

          There was no need to infiltrate the Bush or Kasich campaigns and I highly doubt any FISA warrants were requested either. Those two are willing swamp denizens and are not a threat to the status quo.

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          • I submit they were under the same surveillance as all the others. They needed to know WHO they were in contact with, so they could find a target to attach a Russian operative to. They did it to all of them, Fern. I can feel it in my bones. This was their plan for the 2016 election. Such a dumb plan, too! Especially against President Trump, who has lived his entire adult life out in the open, splashed across the newspapers and on all the news casts! We knew who he was…. we’ve been watching him for decades! Attaching Russian collusion to him was NEVER going to work!

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        • FrankieZee says:

          I totally agree that these people must pay, because if they don’t they will try this again with better results. And Trump must make them pay to protect his family after he leaves office.

          Liked by 8 people

        • geoffgo says:

          I don’t believe they wasted any money on Jeb or Kasich; but I agree in general that they spied on everybody and went so far as to place informants in many campaigns. What could/can we expect from evil ideologues?

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        • geoffgo says:

          And this knowing precisely what an evil, crooked, (probably murderous) POS Hillary was.

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      • GB Bari says:

        It’s what Sundance does, and does as well as and even possibly better than any other currently active investigative reporter. But outside of CTH he gets 1/10th the credit. So it’s obvious his motives are far more patriotic than seeking personal fame or fortune.

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    • Ferret2 says:

      My cousins: The Weasels. I have no words.

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    • GGHD says:

      From the article: “… Byrne talked to Buffett in June of 2019 about how he could be a witness in the DOJ investigation … After listening to the details, Buffett recommended Mr. Byrne ~>go public with the story. …”
      …… Speculation from TheConservativeTreehouse: = “It sounds like there are several motives for going public; perhaps one is ~>personal safety.”
      *******
      Me (GGHD) commenting: = It seems to be a reasonable speculation, as there have been a number of of early deaths; either by suicide, murder, deadly accidents, or previously unknown health problems, to individuals with >insider knowledge about the Deep State-Gangsters. … [The Fake News is reticently quiet and seemingly uninterested ~> about the Gangsters embedded within our Federal Government Bureaucracy. … The USA may have been influenced by the Gangster-Government members for many years]

      May God Bless Trump. His continued health and safety is needed for >our good future, and the future of the USA as a real democracy, too.

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    • Nobodysfool says:

      You are so correct, Chuck. It is quite the tangled web. See any evidence justice will ever be done?

      It’s up to Barr, its all up to Barr. This entire 2016 election coup effort and the network of liars, crooks and thieves necessary to take it as far as they did may very well become just another Benghazi. Case closed. Another ‘unfortunate’ episode in modern American history whereby certain people showed ‘poor judgment’ but in the end, there was no ill intent. Let it go. What difference, at this point, does it make?

      Our President publicly gave Mr. Barr authority to declassify. Months ago. One would like to assume Barr is holding his fire until closer to the election, an October Surprise complete with Swamp vipers wrangled out of federal office buildings, others rooted out and cuffed at their DC suburban homes, from private islands, mansions on Martha’s Vineyard or wherever they’ve run to hide. But then, we know that Mr. Barr is sworn to serve us, not our President, so we don’t hold hope of a political earthquake next fall. So, if politics isn’t in the mix, then why hasn’t anything been declassified? Why not declassify info so We, the People, can judge for ourselves who is guilty and who is not?

      John Solomon, who has breathlessly and tirelessly exposed details on Hillary and her email felonies, now releases this morning an article that nothing may be solved. There’s some breaking news that surprises few. That means she will never be held into account. That means all those that aided and abetted her in the cover up will never be held into account. Seems the FBI and the DOJ haven’t played it straight with the American people again. When it comes to high crimes and treasonous activity inside the govt, the worst accountability the guilty must fear is the equivalent of a 3rd grader caught chewing gum in class.

      The Swamp will win in the years’ long investigation of the 2016 election coup, in spite of volumes of evidence reported. Just like they won on Benghazi and obviously this latest win on protecting HRC and her embedded Swampers in her email case. Someday the exhaustive researchers sadly may look back and wonder why they bothered. Sean Hannity, some website owners and everybody that tried are gonna lose their every-loving minds when the books are slammed shut and these cases are all buried in the dusty, forbidden tombs of Swamp Land.

      Facts mean nothing, timelines and connected dots down to those microscopic in size are worthless if the one man in America that has the power to drop the hammer decides never to do so. And BTW, why does Christopher Wray still have a job anywhere close to the federal govt.?

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      • ristvan says:

        Lurking Lawyer here.
        The Hillary email server thing happened while she was SoS. Comey corruptly exonerated her in July 2016. Her last day as SoS was 1 Feb 2013. So at the time of unjust exoneration the 5 year statute of limitations had not expired and she could have been indicted on at least 18USC§798, which does NOT require intent. But as of 1 Feb 2018 it unquestionably had and she is scott free.
        Solomon now saying nothing will happen on that matter is to state the obvious.

        OTOH, Hillary’s potential involvement in 2016 Spygate is still very much in play. Same for all the other Spygate perps. But 8 do not think HRC was a Spygate perp, merely a perhaps unknowing beneficiary. She still lost, and that is her punishment. Deplorables and PDJT have at least until early 2021 from the SoL perspective. Another reason to think Spygate perp indictments will come BEFORE the 2020 election. SoL is tolled at time of indictment.

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  2. Dell Mar says:

    It should be noted for any unaware, the late Jack Byrne, Patrick’s father, was considered Buffett’s fixer. The father and sons have been closely tied to Buffett Since Patrick’s youth.

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    • farrier105 says:

      That relationship is the one that makes me step back about this one. There is something going on here with this entire thing, but we can’t be sure we have the whole picture here. If most of this story is true, we can’t be sure what all the motives were for Trump-Russia-Wikileaks with the exception of getting control of Julian Assange, which has been achieved by the plotters. As to “who they wanted to win the election,” if they sabotaged Hillary as well as Trump, they have a motive beyond what is typically assumed if Byrne is telling the story correctly.

      The effect of Byrne’s story on the motive for the CIA-FBI political operation aimed at the 2016 election made me remember the under-reported DERAY MCKESSON hack story of JUNE 2016. In fact, the story surfaced at the same time in June of two other events:

      1. The Washington Post’s exclusive story revealing the claims that Russian intelligence hacked the DNC.

      2. The Orlando Pulse nightclub mass shooting that sucked all the oxygen out of media reporting that entire week.

      The goal of this thing might have been to help create the SUMMER OF CHAOS that could cancel the election and maintain Obama in power under martial law in response to nationwide riots and two canceled political conventions to nominate candidates for President.

      But Deray McKesson got hacked.

      The Byrne family connection with Warren Buffet, and Byrne’s references to his “contacts in the Council on Foreign Relations” are two big caveats for me, along with his knowing about Brennan, Clapper, and Comey (XYZ) before identifying Peter Strozk. In reality, Strozk would be closer to Byrne than the other three. Byrne had to have an agent handling him as an informant. That agent had to operate out of a Field Office or our of a section like Counterintelligence. Byrne would know that agent for certain, but would likely not know anyone above that agent UNLESS Byrne had other inside contacts that would provide “Vertical Linkage” to get Byrne above and behind his Case Agent in the hierarchy.

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      • farrier105 says:

        Another problem with Byrne’s story is that he knows too much about the Big Picture. All he should know would be what he was instructed to do by his Case Agent. He wouldn’t know about “political surveillance,” or “political sabotage.” He would be screened away from knowing that. Byrne would have to find a way to get higher on the chain to get a fuller picture about his orders regarding Ms. Butina.

        Also, his role is more of an agent provocateur than an informant. He is actively causing things to happen. He steers Butina in certain directions, helping to “dirty up” prospective GOP candidates. Byrne is not just passively soaking up information and giving it to his Case Agent.

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        • I am also skeptical that part of this story is intended to convey that “several political candidates” were the subject of this intense spying, when I openly suspect that there always was only one. This would deflect the notion that it was what it really was – a soft coup d’etat, soon to be directed specifically at the now-sitting President. (And, still directed specifically at him, to this day.)

          Byrne’s story, tantalizing though it may be, does not entirely wash.

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          • flyoverfuji says:

            He sounds like a nutjob.

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            • GB Bari says:

              Yeah that’s what the guilty parties always project onto whistleblowers. It’s how the corrupt government smears those who know the truth, in order to discredit them.

              You’ve been successfully conditioned to believe the governments stories and think anyone who contradicts them is mentally unhinged.

              Smarter to wait and see how this story plays out, especially given a Sundance’s meticulous corroboration of the basic timeline of Byrne’s story, unless you’re acting on the government’s behalf, trying to get ahead of the truth by smearing and discrediting the witness.

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          • Baby El says:

            Mike – Byrne may have been told other candidates were involved. Doesn’t mean the plotters spied on them. They likely tried to dilute the info going to Byrne so he wouldn’t get too clear a picture.
            I do agree to be cautious of deception though…

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          • Kintbury says:

            I disagree. I think the left would have done this to any candidate who won. The never Trumpers just thought it would not happen to them. Galactically stupid.i

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            I too am skeptical about everything, however this makes sense to me.

            There was ALWAYS going to be Russia collusion.
            “__________-Russia collusion”

            They were just waiting until the Rep nominee was determined to fill in which name.

            PapaD in Bartiromo interview has said that in Dec 2015 while he was working for Ben Carson and considering leaving-people were contacting him over Linkedin encouraging him NOT to leave.
            Failing that his employer requested he go meet someone before he left.
            That person was……….Joseph Mifsud.

            Bongino has referred to the ‘movie script” angle: The Steele Dossier is a near match to a 2007 article Glenn Simpson wrote to dirty up then Republican candidate John McCain with “Russians”.

            Byrne’s activities with Clinton is not off the wall either. Imagine all the leverage info they collected on Hillary during the email investigation. Wouldn’t be bad to have a President in your back pocket.

            J. Edgar Hoover would be proud.

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        • Matt Bracken says:

          Byrne knew his (secret and then untold) part of the Spygate story, and therefore, he would have even more reason than, for example, you, me and Sundance to take great interest in all the other tentacles of Spygate as it unfolded in the media. You mention the Big Picture that you seem to understand, why would Byrne not have an equal grasp on it? Do you imagine that outside of contacts with his FBI handlers, he was uninterested in the rest of your Big Picture? Shoot, he’d have far more reason than you or me to be extremely interested in Spygate as it unfolded, lest he wind up in his own solitary confinement cell, or dead on a sidewalk with bullets in the back.

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          • steph_gray says:

            Byrne could have been reading sundance for years now.

            That could explain why the dates of his story mesh correctly.

            I am not concluding either way on him yet, of course.

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          • farrier105 says:

            He said himself that he tried to ignore Trump-Russia. If you listen to the interview again, he did say he tried to avoid media reports about Trump-Russia.

            If his reports are true, and what everyone hopes they are, Byrne is also suggesting that he had a way of working around the compartmentalization of the operation to gain a partial understanding of what they were having him do. He had to get other exposure since the FBI had him engaged in “dirtying up” Republicans with the Butina, not doing anything to Hillary Clinton. Byrne had to have access up the vertical chain to someone who knew Hillary got targeted with political sabotage.

            Then, again, Byrne might have been assigned to spin a yarn.

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            • farrier105 says:

              Oh everyone seems to forget Byrne says Hillary was targeted, too. I mean, why is everyone avoiding that? I thought they did all of this stuff because they were “sure she would be elected.” Here, they sabotaged her as well, but Byrne gives us no details.

              If Byrne is sincere, and not spinning a yarn for our benefit, in a continuance of his work as an undercover operative, I wrote elsewhere that the story about sabotaging Hillary reminded me of the hacking of DERAY MCKESSON ‘s emails, smartphone, and Twitter direct messages in June 2014 about the “Summer of Chaos–2016” planned to disrupt the election and provide the pretext to keep Obama in office under Continuity of Government. Oddly enough, the McKesson story broke on June 14, 2016, although suppressed by the MSM, the same day the Washington Post published the exclusive about the alleged Russian hack of the DNC, and the wall-to-wall coverage of the Orlando Pulse shooting incident.

              The targeting of Hillary with political sabotage changes both OUR narratives and the other side’s narrative.

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              • GB Bari says:

                Not really. Most established Treepers have maintained (correctly IMO) from the beginning that Russiagate, Spygate etc. was under and of Ozero’s direction, despite the despicable FBI and DOJ corruption having been long established prior to his ascendency. Ozero had strong reasons to obtain leverage on Clinton. He knew of their corruption and connections and ability to raise cash.

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                • farrier105 says:

                  It changes the narrative that they were trying to elect Hillary if they were committing “political sabotage” against her as well as Trump. Byrne emphasized that in one of the videos, saying Clinton’s name twice as a victim, and identifying her as victim FIRST. This changes the narrative if if it is true.

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                • TrumpPatriot says:

                  I do not now, nor will I ever believe Former President Obama was anymore than a managed figure head for the power(s) behind his ascendency to the Presidency. There n ihtiare likely more just like him who have yet to score their place in history, but surely loading their eggs into the basket of a single individual would not be the most successful endeavor.

                  Ex-Pres Obama has a very sketchy and questionable road to his ascent to the US Presidency. Questionable birth records. Questionable academia. Questionable entry to Harvard and achievements in academia. Only worldly experience before politics was community organization, albeit within a corrupt political machine which was likely an education itself. Election to political office where there was little to no political achievements. Much negative life experience and circle of acquaintances (especially an America-hating church and pastor,) before bursting on the scene as a Presidential candidate who surprisingly captured voters basically via charisma, and after Clinton (surprisingly to me) ceded him the nomination.

                  I do not believe Obama had the knowledge or experience to devise and implement the coup against President Trump. There are stronger forces at play directing traffic in our universe. I believe our VSGPOTUS , who has been observing business and politics around the world for decades began to recognize and understand these forces…..perhaps cemented with the election of Obama, and thus determined the need and the time to take action to change the course of the destruction of America.

                  Sundance is uniquely knowledgeable and experienced enough to venture into deeper waters but I would fear for his life if he did so, just as I pray each and every day for President Trump.

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              • WRB says:

                Byrne states Strzok was involved (in charge?). Strzok was absolutely involved in white-washing Clinton’s e-mail investigation. That means Strzok (and FBI confederates) were not interested in politically sabotaging Clinton. So it may be Byrne was told that Clinton was being targeted to mask the one-sided nature of the “investigation”. In other words, the FBI was lying to him.

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                • farrier105 says:

                  Why tell him anything about Hillary? Byrne said he started to have this click in his head during Strzok’s appearance before Congress. He didn’t explain why it did, but he didn’t hear about Hillary being sabotaged in Strzok’s testimony that day.

                  Byrne emphasized what was done to Clinton by saying her name twice and mentioning her first. I don’t think speculation beyond what Byrne represented to be the facts of the matter is helpful at this point as it could make people lose a sense of caution about accepting it as actual fact. I don’t know if they sabotaged Clinton. I don’t know why he said it. All I know is he said it, and that could mean that both narratives (Pro-Trump/Anti-Trump) could be changing if it is proven to be accurate. Anticipating what it could mean if it is accurate is something to think about while waiting to see if Byrne’s complete testimony can ever be verified.

                  He worked undercover in the past. We cannot be 100% sure he still isn’t working in that capacity for them.

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              • BitterC says:

                Byrne didn’t say anything about “sabotaging” Hillary. He said he helped them get blackmail info. 2 VERY different things. In fact, they probably wanted Hillary to win since they had leverage on her

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        • redthunder238 says:

          I could be wrong but didn’t Byrne claim that “XYZ” were all FBI officials?

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          He wouldn’t know about “political surveillance,” or “political sabotage.” He would be screened away from knowing that.

          So lf an FBI agent asked you to introduce Russian nationals INTO the Presidential campaigns of major political figures like Rubio and Cruz and a prominent businessman/reality TV star…………..you wouldn’t get suspicious as to why?

          Huh.

          MY bullshit detector would explode.

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          • farrier105 says:

            You might get suspicious, but you still would not know the ultimate reason for the operation or how it was put together. There is a term of art for this–Compartmentalization–you only know what you must do to perform your particular task.

            My point was Byrne had to get curious and found a way to break compartmentalization. He got above his level on the vertical hierarchy to get more of a picture of what was happening. If his story is true, of course. Since Overstock is under SEC investigation by Strzok’s wife, no less, according to one post in here, there are a variety of motivations for Byrne telling this story today.

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          • GB Bari says:

            But you don’t and probably have never run in the social or political circles in which Byrne was accustomed to operating. He is a friend of Warren Buffet for gosh sakes.

            When you’re around that level of money and power IMO you become “normalized” to a certain level of what we might call BS, but what people at that level consider normal deflection or misdirection of truth for strategic purposes.

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            • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

              So rich=dumb.

              Got it.

              “Sure….I’ll infiltrate the Russian chick into their presidential campaigns. Oh wait…..new plan……..forget the other 2 and just focus on the recently selected Republican nominee?
              OK. Now how about some more Dom Perignon with your caviar while I tell you how I accidentally created a billion dollar company.”

              Nope…..I’m definitely NOT in those circles but I’m glad you clued me in to what it’s like up there.
              Think I’ll stay poor.

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    • SamlAdams says:

      Knew him well from my early days in the industry–he was known as a “fixer” for a lot of companies.

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      • bessie2003 says:

        This very well could be the angle that they, both Buffett and Byrne, thought would or could be used for the agents involved to begin the public process to destroy Byrne, his character, and his companies.

        To destroy someone or stop them from revealing secrets such as his part in the spygate fiasco it is necessary to have a grain of dirt to use to begin that process.

        Already the idea is being circulated, i.e. his dad was a ‘fixer’ has been thrown out for people to define Byrne.

        That’s our government these days; a far cry from vowing ones life, honor and fortune. Thankfully it seems there are still some who subscribe the concept of honor and love of country before profit or personal security.

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        • Tl Howard says:

          Recall that yesterday Lindsay Graham was supposed to meet with AG Barr to discuss, well, the rollout of the narrative. That was revealed a couple of days ago on Hannity, both by Graham and someone else on one of Fox’s shows (don’t remember.) Graham has said all along that telling the story to the American people would be possible but it had to be done carefully because it’s complicated if you haven’t been following it and as we know, half the country hasn’t even heard of it.

          Barr likely approved this Byrne media tour. Since Byrne was not part of the Trump campaign, it would “play well” with the public and establishes the criminal behavior and intent of the higher ups like X, Y, and Z.

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    • ristvan says:

      Not Buffet’s fixer in the Michael Cohen sense. Byrne became the CEO of Geico, turned it around, then Buffet bough a chunk and later all of it. Buffet called Jack Byrne the ‘Babe Ruth of insurance’. I just checked.

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  3. screwauger says:

    Wowza!!!!

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  4. distracted2 says:

    Thank you. This makes sense to me now.

    It looks like Mueller’s henchmen have a habit of putting people in solitary when they might contradict their narrative – i.e. Manafort.

    Perhaps the guilt I was sensing from Mr. Byrne is for any part he might have played in Ms. Butina’s circumstances.

    It will be interesting to see which media report this story and which do not in the coming days. So far, apart from the two interviews on Fox, nada.

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  5. SES, Senior Executive Service is the sedition branch of the feral government, with nearly ten thousand members, this is the shadow government management team. Aim4Truth(.)org has searchable spread sheet of their “Plum Book” directory and many of the claimed White Hats are SES wringers. There is an endless procession of SES swamp rats to restock the DOJ dystopia.

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    • GB Bari says:

      It has been somewhat proven by history that any collective representation of government employees is never good for taxpayers or citizens in general.

      Government Unions, and the SES, are both dedicated to empowering their constituent employees to be above the law, beyond ethics or morals, and generally immune to societal expectations of normal ethical behavior.

      My observation is from decades of observing their behavior.

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    • snarkybeach says:

      Barak elevated a bunch SES prior to his leaving the White House…

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  6. Lionel Mandrake says:

    Incredible investigative journalism Sundance.

    Mr. Byrne indicates that when he saw Peter Strzok’s testimony the light bulb went on, seemingly indicating he then better understood the role he had played in these shenanigans. He also states that he waited until William Barr was installed as A.G. before he had the confidence to come forward – a positive sign.

    He seems pretty credible to me – a true patriot – while obviously having put himself in a very dangerous position.

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    • MDNA I says:

      When he bashed Sessions by saying something like “I couldn’t come forward as long as there was THAT GUY named ‘Sessions’….” & went on to say he had no backbone

      I felt that

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    • Mike Dennis says:

      Or, he waited until right after Trump was exonerated and unlikely to be removed from office.

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    • Dekester says:

      Credible. I agree.

      Of course it is complex, and I am suspicious. However much of his body language appeared sincere.

      Especially when he talked about Sessions, and when he addressed the talking head that challenged him during the Faux Business interview.

      Novels cannot ever again compete with this real life scandal..

      God bless PDJT

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      • ristvan says:

        I had a protege at BCG, later a long time senior partner like myself, who had Byrne’s speech mannerisms. Was a combination of absolute brilliance and thinking faster than he could speak. I was able to process at his speed, but as a former champion debater, trained out the speech quirks. My follow partners used to say watching us talk together was like watching secret code because we never needed to complete a thought, just worked thru whatever it was at lightning speed.
        If A=>B=>C, then A=>C and you can both skip B if you both know B. To outsiders looks like magic or incoherence.

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  7. kiarise says:

    Thank you Sundance for laying this out so well with the timeline. A year ago I would said this is a crazy conspiracy theory but thanks to you and a few other independent journalist my eyes have been opened. I always look forward to your posts.

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  8. MACAULAY says:

    This Jack Byrne sounds like a hero. Too bad we don’t have any similar courageous and honest people in the FBI. Need some whistle-blowers, but apparently there are none to be found.

    If I’ve ever seen a true psycho, its Peter Strzok. Are they all like that? Lord help us.

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    • JoeMeek says:

      Even Diogenes with a Lateran the size of the planet Jupiter couldn’t fin an honest man there.

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    • raptors2020 says:

      Strzok was their Luca Brasi. Circumstantial evidence is often the best evidence. Let Comey or McCabe deny their logic or motives. They kept assigning Strzok to investigate because the results would be pre-ordained.

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    • GB Bari says:

      History shows that people in government who have been given authoritative powers that transcend accountability to the citizens for whom they work are easily corrupted and too often abuse their authorities for personal or ideological gain. Strzok is yet another one of those types. The DOJ, CIA and FBI seem to be a fertile breeding ground for Little Napoleons.

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    • gawntrail says:

      As much as I want to say burn it all down….. Objectively, we know there are some good personnel inside DOJ and FBI. But, one thing to consider is this. They know who the brown nosing kiss ass career killers are amongst them. Who better to know that all the ‘internal affairs’ personnel are foxes in the hen house……

      This is a likely explanation for why nobody is really coming forward within the agencies.

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  9. Michael Kunz says:

    Dynamite, if true, and it certainly seems to hold water, Wehn, if ever, will we see pushback from Mr Barr?

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  10. MVW says:

    I have a different take on good ol’Bernie as to why he was seen as a dead horse in the match up with sweet Hillary. Bernie’s wife and her mischief with University money would have ended her easily in criminal court.

    I am interested in the curious behavior of Romney in his debate performance against Obama and also his disappearance from the campaign trail at the end. First, I don’t think the FBI operation against Trump was new. I think there is reason to believe the strategies were used on Romney and his campaign. I wonder if Romney was fed critical campaign misinformation, specifically targeting bent campaign sources. Intel would give insight into who to target and would enable monitoring of its success. An outside possibility is intel or dirty tricks with legal ‘bite’ that might have been used to cause Romney to stand down or throw the election.

    Obama was a dirty dude, and Clintons would have given him a leg up on how to use the legal and intel agencies to extreme Crookedness.

    It is astounding how close we came to losing our country to complete corruption. I wonder if 8 Trump years will be enough. Trump I trust. Not sure who else would have his skill, just plain genuine once in 1000 year genius, not to mention trustworthiness.

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    • icthematrix says:

      I am beyond convinced that Romney was compromised during that campaign and remains blackmailed by globalist powers. They use him in the same way they used McStain as anti-matter within the Republican Party. I’m tempted to think the same of the Turtle but he may just be old school invested with his crony $$ lobbies more than spy material conflicts. Sick and evil. Obama was and is a radical, but mostly a leftist opportunist used by the globalist pack to perform their bidding.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Romney did not disappear from the campaign trail. That was a new one from the shoeless sack of meat we saw bundled into a van.

      Now I can’t vouch for Romney’s mind. As far as I can tell, his mind disappeared between the first and second debates. Or maybe his consultants told him he came across as too mean. Or Americans preferred a wuss as President.

      Whatever happened, it sure looked like Mittens threw the race. But he still kept running around campaigning and taking money and stuff.

      Cankles is the one that only showed her face to take money, with rare campaign events, focussing her campaign on making sure she had a landslide in the popular vote, forgetting the little detail of winning the electoral college.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Something that just occurred to me about Mitt and his jaw-droppingly terrible performance in that debate:

        Maybe he didn’t throw the debate. Consider his history. He was a Mormon missionary. He was a guy who did deals. He would be a person more likely to try to cajole rather than confront. He would not have gone directly to confrontation when that was a skill he probably had never developed. Mitt didn’t reach for the confrontation tool.

        Just a thought.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      The “Muh Russia” strategies actually were used against John McCain in 2008. They did not work on Russiaphobe McCain, but it did serve as a dry run for this attempt. Recall McCain’s participation in 2016.

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      Oh, come on. Romney is part of the larger coup-group. He never intended to win an election. He did what he was told – anything and eveything to sell us out — and to make himself wealthy. Part of the Mormon (globalist) mafia of Utah, so I have heard told. An enemy of American prosperity and the American Constitutional Republic. No tears for nasty Mitt. His nastiness was used only to destroy any Republican candidates who might have had a chance of winning. Think of him as a blackmailer, not blackmailee.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      I’ve always been convinced they hatcheted Romney. Recall that Obama looked that last three weeks or so to believe he was gong to lose, crying and all.

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  11. SundaysChild says:

    I realize that Byrne wouldn’t be aware of who was pulling the strings at the top of the pyramid – but Strzok & Page’s texts talking about the White House means there was someone higher they, at least, were reporting to. So who was the puppet master? Jarrett, Rice, Brennan, Obama? Comey strikes me as a yes man, not a mastermind. How many were told only what they needed to know and, like loyal soldiers, acted? What selected few engineered the whole scheme & launched it?
    I wonder.

    Also makes you wonder anew at what was really talked about by Lynch & Clinton on that grounded jet.

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    • desperatelyseekingmelania says:

      If you’re in the position of any of those people you named, and you’re instructed to go after major party presidential candidates, you’re going to need a lot more than just being told what you need to know.

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    • You know … still to this day I’m uncomfortable about the role of these “text messages.”

      As we all know, “text messages” are public, non-encrypted traffic that passes through the phone company, and no doubt is permanently archived there, on its way to the destination phone(s). And yet, we have texts which say “the President [Obama] wants to know everything.” And, we have texts in which government officials say plainly that they “don’t want a paper trail.” (“Dude, you just created one …”) These people of course possessed the technology with which to communicate securely. But they didn’t. When discussing matters such as these, “why not?”

      I’m seeing people who have robust security readily available to them – as part of their jobs – who are not using it. Who indeed seem to have thrown caution to the four winds. And, as a card-carrying “IT guy,” I just can’t quite reconcile that. Encrypted emails are easy. So are at-least scrambled texts. So, “why not?”

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      • Jim in TN says:

        All that government security does no good when it is subjected to law enforcement, congressional suppeanas, FOIA releases, etc.

        On the other hand, the lovebirds were texting on their FIB phones. And the only people wanting the texts erased were Mueller’s Angry Democrats.

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      • steph_gray says:

        Mike – Hillary was going to win. That was reason enough not to bother.

        Pure hubris.

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        • farrier105 says:

          But Byrne says Hillary was targeted for political sabotage by the same people. If you are going to believe one thing he says, you are stuck with the others.

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          • Tl Howard says:

            Assuming he’s telling the truth, we can’t assume that what he was told by PS was the truth or that PS knew the truth either, right?

            If Hillary actually was surveilled, it might not have been for the same reason the others were.

            If you were Barack Obama or Val Jarrett, or Obama’s puppet master, wouldn’t YOU always want to know everything about one Hillary Clinton?

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            • farrier105 says:

              First, we don’t know where he got the information about the political sabotage of Hillary Clinton in 2016. I doubt he was directly informed about ANYTHING by Peter Strzok as Byrne said he only got an idea of what he was told to do with Maria Butina by listening to Strzok’s testimony to Congress on television. This after he also claimed he was trying to ignore stories about Trump-Russia.

              All I can tell you is beware of coming up with your own explanations about this, or similar stories, as there is a possibility of creating an explanation to reinforce any conclusions you have already made. Something is going on, but we can’t be sure of what, or by whom, this has been done and why it has been done.

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              • Tl Howard says:

                I appreciate that warning as I’ve already given thought to it and you’re right. We can’t possibly know all the players, all their motives, and all their machinations.

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          • Sherri Young says:

            Byrne’s interpretation was that Hillary was targeted for political sabotage.

            To appear nonpartisan to Byrne, these DS people would have had to instruct Byrne to send Maria Butina into both camps. Otherwise, it would have been obvious that he was being asked to engage in political espionage against the strongest Republican candidates. The DS needed to present the veneer of concern over national security.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        There are quite a few texts that mention other FBI communication tools that they used or needed to use to continue a conversation.

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    • redthunder238 says:

      My money would be on Obama/Jarrett. Certainly not Rice or Comey.

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    • farrier105 says:

      Super Rich people, like Warren Buffet, control the politicians and bureaucrats through several layers of control.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        IMO, Buffet likely is the reason that the SNAP program includes junk food, snacks, and sodas. He seems to have a long history of milking the federal government for favors.

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  12. kurt72 says:

    He doesn’t want to be assisted in his upcoming “suicide”.

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  13. JoeMeek says:

    The main things I got out of Overstock’s words are that Hillary Clinton is innocent and even a victim. So I can’t really be positive about all this as I know those two things will get the most play. Not here, of course, but in the Goebbels 2.0 Media.

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    • Uncle Max says:

      Remember….. she’s a victim too… AS FAR AS HE KNOWS. From where he sits in the op, she appears to have been a target too, although he had nothing to do with that. He explained, he was just putting what he knew together with news stuff that had come out and put together what he thinks went on. He is kinda absolving Hillary as a way to put the best light on her AND he has no personal idea that she was involved.

      I think it makes him more credible. The only way we ever know what Hillary was invovled with is if she broke and told the truth, which is never gonna happen. coulda been a IC op.. or a Obama v Clinton power play op… or who knows… a sloppy combination of all of the above.

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    • Tim says:

      maybe FBI tells Overstock to also go after Hillary so FBI seems Ok and not running a political / biased operation.

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    • I definitely think that one purpose for this fellow’s testimony is to say, “Hillary was a victim too.” To paint this as something that someone other than herself did. Which I do not believe for one millisecond.

      There was only one man that all of them feared – and still fear – because “he is not like the rest of them.” Trump is, singularly, a grave threat to everything they know. None of the others are.

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    • Sherri Young says:

      Byrne said that he got most of his information from television and congressional hearings, AKA C-SPAN.

      Television news is very skewed to Clinton/Dems.

      Over the past several years, Democrat congress critters have used a great deal of their time in hearings lionizing whoever is helpful to their partisan narrative (FBI) and beatifying Hillary Clinton.

      His issue is mostly with the Deep State, not with specific politicians for the greater part. Trying to interpret Byrne’s words and actions in the light of partisan politics totally misses the message Bryne is trying to convey.

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  14. Boknows says:

    This is all great for a mystery novel or Netflix series., but there needs to be consequences.

    The DOJ will either respond to the crimes attempted bribary and subversion, or remain silent and feckless.

    This story fully puts the ball in the court of Attorney General Barr.

    Given all that is known, will the DOJ now prosecute every person responsible for this coup to the fullest extent of the law, or remain silent and do nothing?

    The answer determines the survival of a government of the people or a totalitarian state.

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    • Uncle Max says:

      This story adds weight to the idea I’ve had , that at every point that they think they’ve got a handle on what happened or whatever, another rock is turned over and they find MUCH more and worse. My guess is, it’s gotten to the political realm. Corruption and whatnot so serious, and pervasive, that it eclipses the ability of DOJ to adjudicate. It’s almost military tribunal time. The DOJ can’t investigate themselves and Federal Judges and the FBI and State Department and the former White House and NSA and CIA…. nope.

      It’s a Methuselah’s head of a mess… and another glancing is getting turned to stone… so for now… it’s avert their eyes as they dig. But it’s getting to a point where we’ve got a 1st class, historic, foundational scandal that is so shocking as to preclude the system to handle it….. so it becomes political. Is this the scandal that must be managed and hidden from view as not to undo the republic? Like so many movies of old… maybe.

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      • goddessoftheclassroom (@goddesofthecl1) says:

        With respect, I believe you meant to write “Medusa’s head of a mess.” It’s a great metaphor!

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      • And what was the second EO that President Donald John Trump signed AND Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh was asked about?

        Why it was: “Can American Citizens be prosecuted under the law for “CERTAIN CRIMES”!!! BEFORE A MILITARY TRIBUNAL!!!!!!

        There is your answer…This is what is keeping a lot of people up at night looking at that glass of 25yr Malt Whiskey and that object of final destruction!!!!!

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      • Jerry Joe says:

        Whether its all true or false doesn’t matter for a very much different reason. Horowitz found lack of candor within the upper echelon of law enforcement. Seems to me with even only some of Sundance’s dot connection in the article, the IC community just lost its PRIVILEGE of claiming sources and methods upon inquiry. EFFECTIVELY RETROACTIVE!!! (just like FISA)

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      • QCM says:

        Do you recall the questioning of Justice Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings? There was a bit of questioning of him surrounding military tribunals. Interesting line of questioning, but surely just coincidence! /s

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      • 55praises says:

        You have touched on an aspect of this scandal that has been in the back of my mind but not articulated – if so many are compromised, how can we ever get out from under. As our country is still deeply divided, consensus that we have been sold to the highest bidder may not be possible – there are too many obfuscating, lying, parsing words. This really does seem to be at pivotal time: will truth prevail along with a path forward, or will those who have sold us out prevail?
        I am strongly feeling the need for prayer!

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  15. H.M.P.D. ;) says:

    Absolutely amazing breakdown Sundance! Great work!

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  16. raptors2020 says:

    Butina, Lokhova, Veselnitskaya: Russian surnames are gold to our intelligence community. Poor old Yakov Smirnov must get some strange visitors. What a country!

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  17. Nowut Ameen says:

    Buffet, Soros, Zuckerberg, Bezos… Thank goodness this is America where we don’t have icky Oligarchs manipulating from behind the scenes.

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  18. tappin52 says:

    In the David Atman interview (Fox Business #2 link above) at the 5:48 mark Byrne claims

    “Every time I see one of these things, somebody drives 600 miles to gun down 20 strangers in a mall, I guess I feel a bit responsible.”

    What the heck did that mean?

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  19. Gary Lacey says:

    Following Buffett’s advice, going public, may have saved this fellows life.
    We are of course talking about the FBI, DOJ and the CIA.
    In coming days warrants will be issued,……keep an eye out for suicides, murder and mayhem in DC.

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  20. JoeMeek says:

    “This would explain the Mueller demand for strict solitary isolation and confinement. “

    So what American allowed Herr Mueller to impose such cruel and unusually punishment on this non-violent woman? What the hell country is this anyway? Iran? Saudi Arabia ?

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    • Uncle Max says:

      Paul Manifort would like to answer your question but he’s in solitary too.

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    • Somebody says:

      My bet Rod Rosenstein

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Worse, cruel and unusual was imposed prior to pleading guilty. Both Butina and Manafort. Torturing confessions out of the accused. Like threatening the innocent children and bankrupting entire families.

      Shall we call this the Mueller inquisition?

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    • Sherri Young says:

      “So what American allowed Herr Mueller to impose such cruel and unusually punishment on this non-violent woman?”

      There is/was some cooperative person in the Bureau of Prisons capable of directing placement of prisoners wherever Mueller/Weissman wanted them. The Epstein death in custody fiasco is going to bite back at the tool in the BOP. The placement abuse that was completely off the radar of all but a few, now is gaining recognition.

      Thank you vicious dirty “lawmen”, for outing yourselves.

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  21. 🍺Gunny66 says:

    It just gives me pause to know that these individuals devoted such a vast amount of time, planning, money, and effort on a politically motivated, ideologically inspired, attempted, takeover of the United States.

    However, as I wrote before, regarding “The Dutch Whistle Blower” and other factors, there has to be big money behind this.

    Trillions are at stake and the “Robbery” of our country has been taking place for decades.

    To put it into my cave man terms:

    The Dollar is the “International Currency”
    Our own Government was printing and delivering these Trillions to the Globalists.
    We were the Worlds “Piggy Bank”

    We as American’s, were seen as nothing more than Deplorables.

    Now we have one of our “First Whistle Blowers”….If what he said is true …

    ( Seems there may be a little….just a little “self aggrandizing ) then we may see justice.

    AG Barr may still be the key…..and if not, this Train may just run him over.

    We’ll see

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  22. A2 says:

    I am not convinced. Yes, maybe it fits with certain facts in the timeline, but I find his claims very dodgy, and as a credible informant also considering his nefarious background. Has Buffet responded to his claims? It may be a media campaign for other purposes. He says he has whistle blown and been interviewed by DOJ AG. Do we know this is true?

    Why now, why on Fox News. This situation as he ambiguously recounts happened in 2015 or2016 he is not sure. Plus why did he have this dodgy relationship with this Russian asset for so long.

    According to him he was sent to do it by the actors that have already been fingered by investigators on line and by congressional investigations, and by this women being convicted of Fara violations and serving time. Is he a honeypot? Or just has an undisclosed agenda.

    He sounds a lot like Papadopoulos 2.0. A guy that was working for that institute in London who have all members with names involved with the Spygate. He was obviously casting his net after he left the Carson Campaign because it was clear Carson wasn’t going to get the nomination, and he has now snitched on both sides trying to retain his credibility. Lots of tall tales. Do I believe him? No.

    This guy, is to me until proved otherwise a disinformation agent. He may reveal some intriguing facts, only to illuminate how the entire Trump investigation was malevolently started.

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    • distracted2 says:

      I am definitely straddling the fence. My initial impression is that he’s a disinformation agent and that impression has not changed. Is he telling the truth about his involvement? Perhaps. But I don’t think he’s telling the whole truth.

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    • Jerry Joe says:

      No objection to the cautionary approach, but keep in mind: MSM was very effective at initially painting PapaD as a Russian asset. Turns out coffee boy PapaD has USA asset Misfud wanting some facts from his deposition revealed.

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  23. Emuuuu says:

    We are saddened to learn of Mr. Byrne’s upcoming suicide, next week.

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    • madeline says:

      Was Byrne involved with Epstein?

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      • rvsueandcrew says:

        Why try to discredit the man with outlandish, wild claims (Epstein)? It’s one thing to question the man’s sincerity and truthfulness based on what one knows about his character and past behaviors, but on what basis do you make this accusation?

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        • rvsueandcrew says:

          And, yes, a question can be an accusation , , , , on the internet (and in pressers with our POTUS, for example).

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        • GB Bari says:

          Because disinformation agents have been sent here (and to other conservative sites where truth is being discussed) to post comments expressing doubt and disinformation to try to discredit Byrne and cast a cloud over his recent revelations.

          Cmon, by now we KNOW this is how the Deep State operates. Their playbook is quite thin. The other day I noted how many brand new names were appearing among the commenters. It’s no coincidence that when the subject of the article is more damaging to the Deep State’s major anti Trump narratives, new commenters literally come out of the woodwork.

          It’s so obvious it’s laughable.

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          • rvsueandcrew says:

            Thank you, GB, for saying what I wanted to say and avoided doing so directly by posing that question instead. (I admit I didn’t want to be attacked.)

            Yeah, I saw all those new names, too. It’s pathetic that they think they can lesson our resolve or dampen our support. Quite the contrary!

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            • GB Bari says:

              Right.

              And to be clear, I surely do NOT want to demean the sincere opinions of genuine newcomers to the Treehouse as they have an equal right to express their opinions, amd are especially appreciated when they support their reasoning with facts. I was once new to CTH and had lurked for a few months before commenting.

              But my observation has been where many these new names come and go within one or a very few articles, and then I don’t ever see them again.

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      • Emuuuu says:

        Not likely. However, he was involved as a patsy in the coup attempt. You know, the one headed by Hillary Clinton and Barry Soetoro.

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  24. ozymandiasssss says:

    Nice work, SD, following the Strozk dots

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  25. citizen817 says:

    Good advice from Buffett…Distance yourself from your company and Go Public. The life he is saving is his own. This puts the onus on the DOJ to move forward faster than what has been going on lately…like the delays by DOJ in delivering the Archey memos.

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  26. Johnny Bravo says:

    “FBI agents requested Mr. Byrne to focus on developing a closer romantic relationship with Ms. Butina and to use his influence to target her to closer proximity with the Trump family and Trump campaign.”

    Wow, the things people of wealth are prepared to do to retain their money, no wonder high society is so full of weirdo’s.

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  27. ozymandiasssss says:

    Trillions of dollars are at stake….

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    • Blind no Longer says:

      YES!!! I think he, Byrne is the first CEO to allow Bitcoin for purchases in his company Overstock from what I read in an article.
      The FBI/Deep State used their usual leverage against a citizen to set up someone….they approached Carter Page..with the line- you know those guys you are talking about doing business with are Russian spy’s. The patriotic person would then say “OMG I won’t be doing business with them then”. FBI says “hey go ahead and work with them, while you’re working with us and you can help your Country out”.
      The FBI did the same thing with Byrne, but they also pulled the old “Or else”.

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      • wtd says:

        Thanks … confirmed as first item on Bing search confirms:
        Blockchain: Trust Through Technology
        Overstock was introduced to blockchain technology in 2014 as the first major retailer to accept bitcoin. See how Overstock’s CEO, Patrick M. Byrne, is using blockchain today to prevent institutional mischief around the globe by providing trust through technology.

        https://www.overstock.com/blockchain

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  28. Free Speech says:

    This guy is a set up, IMO, to try and establish a defense for Hillary and muddy the waters by throwing her in as a victim alongside Rubio, Cruz and Trump. When I hear the name ‘Warren Buffet’, alarms go off. He should not be trusted. He is a lifelong globalist and not a friendly to POTUS or MAGA. This is part of a scheme to contain the swamp draining and limit it to Stzrok, McCabe and the other FBI/DOJ players, keeping it away from the political people involved. Hillary WAS involved and should face justice. She paid for Fusion-GPS and the Steele Dossier. Don’t let this con artist keep Hillary from her day of justice.

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    • JoeMeek says:

      Bingo.

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    • Bryan Alexander says:

      Comey’s exoneration of Hillary forever and irrevocably places Hillary Clinton in the Black Hat category. She should be serving the rest of her life in Federal Prison for the email scandal.

      My guess is that Obama was monitoring Clinton to protect HIS rear-end. Don’t forget, Hillary Clinton could have been blackmailing Obama to let the Email stuff go. Obama knew about her email account and was involved, that has been proven. Places a completely different shadow on the Clinton-Lynch Tarmac meeting, doesn’t it?

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    • Two things can be true at the same time. Hillary can still be an arch villain responsible for fuelling Spygate AND at the same time have the IC collecting dirt on her.

      Perhaps Messrs X, Y & Z answer to people well above Hillary’s paygrade. Perhaps the spying on politicians to obtain material for control (blackmail) purposes goes back well before PDJT or HRC, targets all stripes and encompasses a wide range of collection techniques, including using the IC and strategic bad actors (eg. Epstein).

      Perhaps this is so big and disgusting that even well established CTH branch warmers need to be introduced slowly and gently to the truth.

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  29. Publius2016 says:

    Buffet is a Globalist Prince so this is definitely DEEP STATE Narrative…by coming out before G7, once again DEEP STATE oversteps American Policy…

    question: How long has Byrne been Government Asset?

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  30. “I’m sure it is just a coincidence, but FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok’s wife, Melissa Hodgman, happens to be the Assoc. Director of the SEC Enforcement Division, who happened to be leading the SEC investigation of Peter Byrne’s company.”

    We rightly teach our kids to be good citizens and do the right thing. And yet here we see, It’s never about competence and capability, its how corruptible and cunning you can be as one of the “in crowd”.

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    • J Gottfred says:

      Yes, and marriage appears to be tool to further one’s ambitions. I wondered about Strzock’s wife and her silence – she must be like Ohr’s wife, part of the cabal and up to her neck in its dealings.

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    • Hmm. Follow the wives. I wonder what we would find if we look at the pattern of SEC investigations over the last few years. Who else was the FBI trying to keep quiet by going after their companies?

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  31. Blind no Longer says:

    I posted this on a previous thread:

    This is very interesting…as well as his reason for leaving as “medical” condition, but this blockchain thing might have some Deep State legs.

    Much as the blockchain can drive a money system outside the control of any one government, it can also juggle stock outside the control of any one bank.

    “It provides a database that can be shared by multiple entities who have different economic or political agendas and therefore don’t necessary trust each other,” says Gideon Greenspan, the CEO and founder of Coin Sciences, another company that’s exploring blockchain applications that extend beyond bitcoin. “There’s no central gatekeeper checking all transactions that come in, saying what’s valid and what’s not.”

    This might explain a lot of things!!

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    • wtd says:

      Agree….alarm bells went off when Byrne mentioned Butina’s request he speak in St. Petersburg about blockchain to eliminate global poverty…aka…’redistribution of wealth’.

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  32. Bogeyfree says:

    Incredible work Sundance!

    The Overstock SEC investigation led by Strzok’s wife is an amazing dot.

    I wonder if that was about sending a message?

    I really hope you might try and reach out to Byrne and get an interview. Your knowledge and the specific questions you would ask, IMO could blow this whole thing open.

    For our legal beagles here…….

    Based on Sundance’s outline and let’s assume for now that Byrne’s story is all true, what if any are the crimes or laws that may have been broken by all of this or is this just more “working outside normal department policy” crap.

    I wonder what hard evidence outside his personal testimony does he have? And if he did have any evidence such as text, emails, voice recordings, etc has that been turned over to Barr?

    The other question would be, does 2-3 of his attorneys also have copies of any evidence. Might I suggest he enlist the services of Joe DiGenova ASAP!

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  33. Publius2016 says:

    Deep State is trying to bring down Barr again…This Butina Affair places AG in position to “release Russian Operative” and puts State Department on notice…

    At a minimum, just move dirt to bury Mueller Report…

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  34. mark1mod0 says:

    It is refreshing to see the real truth here. This article in Politico is how the other 99%, that can read, will be fed a version of the truth: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/22/overstock-ceo-deep-state-1472132

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  35. Bogeyfree says:

    I also want to ask our legal beagles………

    Now that Byrne has come forward and spoken directly to AG Barr, what obligation does Barr now assume under our laws?

    And since Barr is the highest legal person in the country, who holds Barr accountable if he were to decide there is no there, there in Byrne’s testimony?

    And if the DOJ does not act, can Byrne at least sue “various” people to help ensure his story and discovery occurs?

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    • Blind no Longer says:

      The fact that Byrne’s attorney wrote a letter to the judge and Butina’s attorney admitting his role in setting her up by the FBI back in July or April, would indicate they are trying to get Butina a new hearing about exculpatory evidence for her started. I don’t know if Barr would do anything before the judge in her (Butina) trial. Maybe an attorney would know the law on this.

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  36. MDNA I says:

    The aspect that makes this truly higher stakes than I’m willing to admit was obvious to me or visible to me is – he had the ability to influence GLOBAL finance

    “Patrick Byrne was seen as important to Ms. Butina due to his connections to the emerging financial structures of crypto-currency and block-chain. Byrne is a libertarian who believes in small government, and is somewhat of a disruptor in the business world. Ms. Butina wanted to introduce Byrne to her friends in Russia.

    “While it was not outlined in any of the four interviews, alternative currency options to the dollar has been an ongoing effort of Russian interests for a while. Russia considers global trade attached to the dollar as geopolitical problem; and they have been working for years on alternative currencies for trade (and their own wealth) that can avoid U.S. sanctions and the reach of the U.S. treasury.”

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  37. Merkin Muffley says:

    The portion where he says the FBI originally tried to blackmail Hillary makes me think this is some kind of cover story crafted by the Clinton team to protect her and throw Brennan and Comey under the bus.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Allard Otten says:

      It would push the Clinton loyalists to join with the republicans in order to clean out the mess in the IC and DoJ. Entrenched loyalists in government would rebel from inside the castle walls. Two front war for IC and DoJ at that point. It leads to Obama and takes Biden out.

      Cui Bono? Warren/Harris/Booker/Gillibrand faction? They’re in the group of 6 that din’t vote to confirm Rosenstein. Who’s behind that group?

      /pol anon post earlier this week says SHTF news on Tue and Thurs and crux of issue is Yates. Yates takes them all down when she pleads out. Tue and Thurs matches up with Byrne, I think.

      Fog of war. Hard to tell what’s real and what isn’t.

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  38. margarite1 says:

    Didn’t Herbert Hoover use the FBI in similar ways?

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  39. Bogeyfree says:

    Does anyone really think that the FIB came up with all of this on their own??

    We are back to who ordered the Code Red originally?

    Someone had to devise and come up with this whole plan. There always is a top dog. Now it is up to folks like Sundance, Sara Carter, John Soloman, Rosie Memo’s and others to keep digging for the truth.

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  40. Bogeyfree says:

    This new Byrne revelation now gets us back to 2015 and more spying.

    I wonder if Sundance is starting to see if any of these new dots where “alleged” spying, blackmail and bribes are occurring, if it might lead back somehow to either U1 or Iran Deal in the end?

    After all it is Sundance who said something like the Russian Collusion frame job was the cover-up as the real stuff was prior to 2015?

    I’m anxious to see where Sundance goes next with all this.

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  41. Comrade Mope says:

    I have a silly question. Why did Byrne need a security clearance?

    Liked by 4 people

  42. Conservative_302 says:

    As weird as his story sounds, I believe him. Successful people like him don’t step down from their companies for nothing. He sounds scared which is why he is trying to get his story out so he doesn’t end up like Seth Rich. I am sad for him and our country because the corruption this story brings to light is very evil. I beg everyone to pray to God to bring us justice, keep president Trump safe, and show him favor. We need more than Barrs help. We need God’s. I also feel sad for Trump since he has been living with with the threat on his life since he became president, moreover his entire family and anyone who works for him. God bless Pence, too. The more who pray, the louder are call to God is. I always tell myself this line from the bible, “The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.” If we ask, we shall receive justice in this case. God bless Sundance, too. He is a patriot beyond measure.

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    • sDee says:

      Amen.

      I pray we, the Citizens of America find the strength and means to now rid ourselves of what we ourselves have brought to represent us.

      These parasites have adapted and mutated to every check, balance and means of recourse anticipated by the founders of our Republic.

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    • tozerbgood8315 says:

      It’s more logical that he stepped down because the stock was dropping due to facts revealed about his relationship with Butina, and statements he made about it, and they would have voted him out anyways.

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  43. citizen817 says:

    Byrne said he didn’t come forward sooner about his contacts with the FBI, which he describes as a ‘non standard’ relationship with the government, because he wanted to be “judicious and let the system play out,” he said, referring to the government’s ongoing investigation into the FBI’s handling of the Russia Trump probe.
    “But I can’t trust that’s what’s going to happen,” he said.”I’ve been holding my breath for more than 12 months watching everything unfold. I’ve never met Trump, never gave the guy money, as soon as he said the stuff about John McCain I stopped listening at the time. This isn’t about Trump, it’s about what’s right for the American people. The public should know the truth.”
    https://saraacarter.com/russia-probe-twist-a-billion-dollar-ceo-a-convicted-russian-agent-and-the-fbi/?utm_source=izooto&utm_medium=push_notifications&utm_campaign=patrick%20byrne&utm_content=&utm_term=

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  44. Paula S Daly says:

    The guy is probably genius level, no doubt, but what I can’t make of his findings, is about Hillary being set up as well. I’am missing something?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Landslide says:

      Maybe genius does not always translate into common sense. He also sounds like a person who has followed mainstream media vs. conservative media. He supported Gary Johnson and does not appear to have dug into any real truth regarding Hillary OR PDJT. (Browsed his Twitter going back to 2015.)

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    • lemontree says:

      Why go public now? If he believes Durham and Barr are getting to the bottom of all this, why deliver this info now and name names when the OIG report and subsequent Durham/Barr investigation is just around the corner? I don’t trust this guy.

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      • Lemontree– You ask, “If he believes Durham and Barr are getting to the bottom of all this, why deliver this info now and name names when the OIG report and subsequent Durham/Barr investigation is just around the corner?”

        Byrne was willing to let the system play out, but things were NOT progressing in the ‘SpyGate’ investigation. Shortly after AG Barr was confirmed was the first time Byrne went to meet with him, on April 5, 2019, and again, on April 30, 2019. Byrne felt Barr was trustworthy and effective, as opposed to AG Sessions. Byrne spent over seven hours providing information, testimony, texts, documents, depositions, phone records and other materials to Barr, primarily regarding his interactions with Maria Butina. Less than two weeks after Patrick Byrne’s last meeting with AG Barr, the AG hired John Durham to begin an investigation into the information that Byrne had provided.

        Byrne was (part of) the impetus that started the Barr and Durham investigation. SunDance describes all this in the synopsis that he provided for this article.

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    • The Central Scrutinizer says:

      Not to make excuses for Her Royal Heinous, but maybe some juicy dirt on Hillary would convince her to rethink any plans she may have had to disturb Obama’s legacy.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Go back and read through this entire comments section.

      Many commenters have posted thoughts that it is entirely possible that Ozero and or the Deep State had collected and were continuing to collect compromising material on Clinton in order to extort her and keep her under control to do their bidding.

      Byrne’s testimonies in these interviews would confirm that activity.

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  45. Got243kids says:

    FUBAR.

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  46. convert says:

    Excellent. Once again, CTH, doing the real journalism thing that the NYT and WAPO won’t do…

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  47. This guy is off and being used for gaslighting IMHO . I read a NY POST article on him dated November 2015 , yes 2015 , and he is a Glen Beck /Utah nut job “ prepping” for crash of world , stashing 20 million of gold and food in secret Utah location for pending collapse . Come on , That is not normal, Now this tale , as they say “ Best lies are ones that have some truth” Yes Trump targeted and ……

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  48. Baby El says:

    Speaking about the Billion Dollar Bribe – this also happened to Patrick Byrne’s friend Warren – Just about the time he suddenly turned liberal. (2011).

    I don’t know how this resolved, but I think ‘quietly’ is an apt description.

    https://www.newsmax.com/Headline/buffett-irs-back-taxes/2011/09/01/id/409520/

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      This info speaks to me – I don’t know why. Memory, memory. Buffet suddenly investing in the Global Warming scam??? He’s too intelligent not to know the science.

      When “scientists” started to claim the world was ending, I took notice. Got my excellent high school science education brushed up and soon realized what a gigantic scam was being perpetrated – scientifically, much less economically an politically. It should have ended quickly.

      Also Buffett sending rr car loads of, what was it, oil, due to stalled pipeline. Didn’t he invest hugely in windmills/bird killers, too?

      Weren’t these once upon a time geniuses rising to the top of the American prosperity due to their hard work and successes? Bryne in the digital world. All of a sudden, turning their talents and wealth to “the (very, very) dark side.”

      Maybe they were always dark — and I had too much faith in the goodness of America keeping our business people patriotic, at the end of the day. They would realize why they could become successful and wealthy and have some gratitude. In few other countries is this possible.

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      • ristvan says:

        Buffet invested in the main Iowa electric utility. Several billion. The utility invested in wind ONLY to harvest the production tax credit (PTC) subsidy. Is worth almost a billion per year to Berkshire Hathaway.
        Buffet bought all of Burlington Northern. Just happens that one of their businesses was carrying Bakken oil. When Obama then blocked Keystone pipeline, that business became a long term gold mine.

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  49. dawg says:

    Is the SEC investigation into Overstock ongoing?

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