Former AG Matt Whitaker: Everything About Bruce and Nellie Ohr “Was Very Concerning”…

Delivering a statement directly from the files of ‘captain obvious‘ former AAG Matt Whitaker notes that everything about Bruce and Nellie Ohr was sketchy.

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Political opposition research was paid for by Hillary Clinton and created by Fusion-GPS (Glenn Simpson and Nellie Ohr).  That oppo-research was then sent to Chrisopher Steele in the U.K. so he could launder the information and return it to the DOJ and FBI, through Bruce Ohr, as a semi-official “intelligence” product.

Within the released documents provided to Judicial Watch the last FBI interview of Bruce Ohr (May 15th, 2017) took place two days prior to the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller; and one day before Rod Rosenstein took Mueller to the White House.

Throughout the interviews (full pdf below) Bruce Ohr was acting as the go-between delivering information from his wife Nellie Ohr at Fusion GPS and one of Fusion’s contract investigators, Christopher Steele.

The 302 reports are heavily redacted (sources and methods); however, we already know the majority of names underneath the redactions. Here are the *302 investigative notes:

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As Bruce Ohr is discussing the possibility of the “SIC” (Senate Intelligence Committee) traveling to the U.K. to interview Steele, you cross reference the committee Vice-Chair Mark Warner text messages (w/ Steele’s lawyer Adam Waldman) and the Ohr interview substance gives you the bigger picture of the conspiracy:

Now overlay Democrat Senator Mark Warner attempting to organize a meeting with Christopher Steele without “a paper trail”, during the height of the effort to organize the ‘soft-coup’ impeachment evidence.

Keep in mind, as you review SSCI Mark Warner attempting covert contact, for the expressed political purpose of conducting a ‘soft coup’….. the Vice-Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Mark Warner, is also a member of a very specific group known as the oversight “Gang-of-Eight”; and has contact with the most sensitive and secret covert government operations.

When you realize that senate members of the Gang-of-Eight in 2016 (Feinstein and Reid) were participating in the targeting…. and that continued into 2017 (Warner, Schumer, Burr, Ryan) with the soft coup effort against a sitting President; you begin to realize the scale of this.

The effort extends outside the Intelligence Apparatus into the halls of the most powerful politicians in DC. That’s where SSCI Security Director James Wolfe comes in; and is directly the reason why corrupt DOJ officials dropped charges against Wolfe in 2018 to control damage and mitigate risk. The truth of Wolfe leaking classified documents at the behest of Senators Warner and Burr was just too devastating.

A branch of the United States government (legislative) was attempting a coup against the elected leader of another branch of government (executive); by using planted and designated corrupt agents within the cabinet.

In 2015 and 2016 the dossier is connected to political opposition research laundered into weaponized intelligence to target a political campaign. However, after the election of November 2016, that DOJ/FBI, State Department and Senate effort then became an actual coup-plot against a sitting president.

The problem for Attorney General Bill Barr is not investigating what we don’t know, but rather navigating through what We The People’ are already aware of….

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274 Responses to Former AG Matt Whitaker: Everything About Bruce and Nellie Ohr “Was Very Concerning”…

  1. rojobirds says:

    Wake me when someone is prosecuted and sent to Gitmo.

    Liked by 12 people

  2. Is Whitaker now acting as an unofficial delivery vehicle for the White House or Barr for questions and information?

    Liked by 15 people

    • mr.piddles says:

      That’s been my feeling. Not so sure he isn’t “official”, though. Who knows… one thing I do know is that he’s been all over Fox for the past 6-8 weeks. I’m not convinced that’s just a coincidence.

      Liked by 11 people

    • RJ says:

      Mr. Cue Ball comes to the television bringing us what? I get the nasty feeling it is smoke and mirrors. Time to chalk up and drive him off the table!

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    • DeWalt says:

      This is to give the appearance the DOJ is all over this. Optics. Look for another small release.

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  3. rmramerica says:

    You want an example of why “we the people” no longer trust anyone in the DOJ and FBI, this dope’s response illustrates. People in our government are both incompetent and stupid. Welcome to the party Whitaker.

    Liked by 3 people

    • John says:

      They are not incompetent.They are not stupid.This is what they want you to believe.They are part of the swamp,corrupt.

      Liked by 12 people

      • KnowSERENoFear says:

        An excellent comment. This plan to globalism/socialism/feudalism is very long in the making…very methodical…very patient. Look up Fabian Society…look up Council on Foreign Relations…look up the members of the CFR.

        “I also made it quite clear that Socialism means equality of income or nothing, and that under socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly feed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you like it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live you would have to live well.”
        —George Bernard Shaw, member Fabian Society

        Chaos always wins because it’s more organized.
        —Murphy

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        • dd_sc says:

          Thanks for posting the Shaw quote. I like to point it out to people that think socialism is well intended. It’s a good, early example of the eugenics that underlies socialism.

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  4. boogywstew says:

    Headline; “Either Ohr is Sketchy”

    Liked by 28 people

  5. mark reddig says:

    time for Barr to have 24/7 secret service protection.

    Liked by 5 people

    • GB Bari says:

      Apparently he doesn’t present nearly the threat to DC Swamp livelihoods as we believed he did back just a few short months ago.

      As Sundance wrote above: Barr only has to navigate through the evidence that “We the People” are already aware of.

      That pretty much implies that, regarding the bringing to justice all those who broke laws trying to interfere with DJTrump’s election and the trying to unseat him after he won, Barr’s priorities are not aligned with ours.

      Liked by 2 people

    • DeWalt says:

      They’ll have to locate him. He’s been as allusive as Ginsberg.

      Liked by 1 person

  6. lotbusyexec says:

    If WE know, AG Barr and company have known for quite awhile. That being said, it is well past the time to drop the hammer. I believe in the goodness of every man’s heart and I am hopeful that AG Barr will reaffirm my belief in mankind and the spirit of justice. I have been let down too many times in my prayers for fairness and justice for all. Not sure I can handle ANOTHER letdown – it IS just SO obvious and anything other than indictments/convictions will crush the citizens who in good faith have tolerated all the “righteous” explanations as to why no one is ever (EVER) been held accountable before (with the except of republicans) . This willNOT pass the smell test for any of us – just won’t!! We are SO past CONCERNING Matt!

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    • Zoe says:

      Not to be condescending but you need to lower you expectations then you won’t be disappointed when this doesn’t turn out the way you want it to. You can be sure from all that has been said about this you are going to be disappointed so you better prepared or the worst and hop for the best.

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    • Rhi says:

      “I believe in the goodness of every man’s heart”- there’s your problem …….
      “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” – Jeremiah.
      Jesus said “Ye must be born again” for a reason.
      I applaud you and all who are praying for justice.

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    • G. Alistar says:

      Lot, you note, “I believe in the goodness of every man’s heart and I am hopeful that AG Barr will reaffirm my belief in mankind and the spirit of justice.” Are you kidding? This type of thinking is at odds with the founding fathers, the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth and common sense reality.
      Federalist 51, “What is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary.” The ever wary James Madison viewed his fellow citizens as anything but angelic. Jesus consistently taught about the heart of man note: “ That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man. “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness.” Matthew 15 and Mark 7. Things went down hill shortly after Cain and Abel were born….by Genesis chapter six, “Mankind did little other than continuously think and so evil. As for common sense, the world is full of jails with all sorts of degeneracy….one only has to read this web site to see what so called “goodness of mankind” is all about. Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Strozk and other Obama Administration criminals as federal employees took and oath to support and defend the constitution…and they effectively s$Hit on the greatest document for governance in world history, violating their sworn oaths. Or look at the systemic corruption of the Clintons, their foundation, their relationship with Epstein. Point is, without divine salvation, God’s word revealed and a relationship with Christ, mankind can do nothing but evil, wickedness and corruption. Madison and the founders went through great lengths to subordinate the power of government to the people…they well knew that corrupt men would abuse their power. ….that’s why there MUST be consequences and accountability!

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  7. Tom Idlewood says:

    Well, I learned a little bit more on the Horowitz effort. The IG can be the hammer to get federal bureaucrats fired. Seems tough to fire feds without the damning IG coffin nails.

    Now, the prosecutor out of NY? He’s not firing anyone. He’s just locking them up.(i hope)

    It isn’t clear that criminal action will be taken against anyone by virtue of the IG, only the prosecutor & his grand jury take liberty away. Horowitz takes their jobs away (first step?)

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    • CountryDoc says:

      We have to get them where they cannot manipulate evidence and trails, unless we are watching them and recording their attempts to manipulate evidence and trails.

      Liked by 3 people

  8. ann says:

    Pussyfooting!
    If convicting crooks in fed LE, intell & The DoJ is so damn hard, everyone who has the PRIVLEDGE of a security clearance should be transferred to be accountable by military code off Justice.

    Liked by 9 people

    • MicD says:

      Yuppers, Barry was the Commander in Chief of our entire Armed Forces and knew everything. There was no paragraph one, the predicate was, to quote jug head himself –
      “Trump will never be President”.
      To Cuba with ALL of them – Mercy B Coup

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      • George 1 says:

        If anything was ever done about Barry the criminal, large cities would burn. Might happen even if one of the criminals close to him was held to account. So this is why nothing will happen in all likelihood.

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  9. DJT2020 says:

    Yes it is obvious to the informed but the message needs to be drilled into the casual fox viewer I suppose.

    Liked by 3 people

    • mr.piddles says:

      What percentage of the population (any “educated” population, not just the U.S.) would read a site like CTH? Maybe 10%? 15% tops? MAAYYYBE 20%? Most people are just “too busy”, or they’re sorta in their Own World, or… let’s face… would just prefer to not know. This is complicated stuff, somebody’s got to explain it, and CNN, MSNBC, FNYT, WaPo are just not going to break it down in a way that’s not colored in some way (IMO).

      Remember: “Russia hacked the DNC” underpins everything… so everything else related to that is ultimately justifiable. That’s the story, and they’re sticking to it. I’m not convinced that the public will EVER know that the Russian DNC Hack was a massive fraud. Hope so, but doubt it.

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        5%.

        Liked by 3 people

      • Dutchman says:

        This site averages 100,000 hits/day, how many are,same person, multiple hits?

        Population of U.S., 350 million, do the math…..

        Liked by 1 person

        • archie says:

          This is the terrible tragedy of Limbaugh and his merry band of hucksters. They, supposedly, reach 20M per week yet they have kept the truth from the public for 20 years. But the low-information republicans gobble up their schtick.

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          • GB Bari says:

            The only thing you got correct is the spelling of Limbaugh’s name.

            It’s probably best to *not* comment on someone to whom you never listen regularly, if ever, or whose writings you do not read regularly, or have never read thoroughly at all.

            I daresay the vast majority of Rush’s listeners voted for PDJT because they learned more truth about the candidate and his detractors via Rush’s daily shows than they ever got from any other broadcast source. There are a LOT of responsible working voters who, unfortunately, do not sit at their computers or stare at their cellphones to get news; they depend on broadcast media while they are busy at other tasks.

            I for one am glad Rush has been on the air for the last 31 years (not 20), despite that he was not completely wise to Republican politicians’ increasing deception of their voters, especially with NAFTA. But he was far more accurate about politics than was any of the MSM.

            CTH has been even more on point and targeted than Rush, so Sundance represents a big step up in investigative reporting of documented-source information. But it takes various modes of media to reach millions of people with accurate information. IMHO, we are fortunate that Rush has been successfully on the air nearly every weekday for over three decades in supporting conservative values and policies.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Marketing. You can have the best product in the world, but if you can’t get anyone to buy it (listen to it) it doesn’t matter.

            Can’t get and keep listeners/viewers/hits, then you won’t get or keep sponsors/advertisers, and so go off the air.

            So, yeah it effects ALL media.Unfortunately, its the way it is. Stimulating people, emotionally, sells. Boring doesn’t sell.
            Just look here at,the treehouse.
            Can’t guage lurkers, of coarse, but based on comments, I sense their are many (although less, over time) who do or have done what I did, when I first came here.
            I hung on every word, every new revelation about “the BIG UGLY”. The stuff on trade, and widgets and lemons, and exfiltration of wealth,…not so much. It,was,..boring, and ,..confusing and after a couple of paragraphs my eyes would cross, and I would go back to reading about PDJT’s latest tweet.
            Gradually, after many readings, I finally GOT it, on trade.
            Frankly, I’ve gone 180 degrees, now.
            I follow the Big ugly, but I actually get more excited about trade.
            And THERE IT IS; “excited”. I am still drawn to that which evokes emotion, its just that what evokes emotiin from me, has changed.
            Anyway, Rush, Hannity are in part pitching to evoke emotions, cause thats what pays the bills. So, hit the DONATE button, on the home page! Gotcha! LOL

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        • Your Tour Guide says:

          Rough rule about “true” involvement.

          From my prior life as the meeting attender from
          hell. My large county ( Dekalb, Ga) had 740,000
          people when I showed up to meeting after meeting.

          Unless the meetings were about hot button zoning
          issues, or school attendance boundary changes,
          generally would see the same number of people at
          meeting after meeting.

          The ones that were trying to participate, make the
          county government do it’s job? Roughly twelve.

          Percentage wise, pretty dismal. I still believe it’s
          a rough showing of the “Truly” involved. The numbers
          you see for protests, etc are much higher. Most are
          also outside funded (Soros and the like).

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        • I would venture a guess that quite a lot of those 100,000 daily hits are actually from those doing “counter” investigations, i.e., checking out how much information the guy on the street has available. Don’t think the nefarious “Lawfare” frivolous litigation group as well as the remaining traitors in the DOJ and FIB have readers here? I do, and there are comments that I have declined to make as a result.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        It isn’t so much that the Russian hacking is a known fraud – it’s WHEN it was known to be a fraud that is important. If the FBI/CIA knew it was a fraud before the FISA and the wiretapping that’s one thing but if it was discovered after those actions then their asses are covered — National security don’t cha know.

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        • jeff montanye says:

          using the steele dossier that they did know was paid for by hillary clinton and the dnc, and that it was written by someone desperate to stop the election of trump and trying to leak to the press (kavalec memos) are enough for perjury to the fisa court.

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      • JoeMeek says:

        I doubt that any single web site gets even 5%.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        By 10%, 15%, etc… I don’t mean percentage of traffic on daily, monthly, whatever basis… I’m talking about percentage of info-consuming population that would be likely to navigate to CTH or similar for real analysis, info, etc. That includes people who would visit even just once per week… or once per month for that matter.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        By 10%, 15%, etc… I don’t mean percentage of traffic on daily, monthly, whatever basis… I’m talking about percentage of info-consuming population that would be likely to navigate to CTH or similar for real analysis, info, etc. That includes people who would visit even just once per week… or once per month for that matter.

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  10. SKIDROE says:

    Remember when Obuma said “Donald Trump will never be President”. I’m not going to be happy with Barr prosecuting low hanging fruit. It ALL has to start and go through OBUMA! Then work it way down.

    Liked by 4 people

  11. ALEX says:

    I would ask a simple question. How many times has this happened before. Whatever the beautiful Nellie Ohr wanted was passed thru her husband to the FBI. None of the Steele info was a product of independent FBI intel gathering….none of this passed basic street level law enforcement protocols.

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  12. Donzo says:

    One reason people like Joe D. is the righteous indignation he shows towards disgraceful behavior of his former colleagues. It shakes him to the core as a freedom loving American. Contrast that with someone like Whitaker who appears to be on the right side of justice, but can’t or won’t express anything more than what appears to be concern. DiGenova has not always been right on the timing, but at least he knows a turkey when he sees one and calls it like it is. Whitaker, on the other hand, appears to be parsing words and as if he were the spokesperson for State. Will the real Matthew Whitaker place stand up.

    Liked by 7 people

  13. JoeMeek says:

    “Delivering a statement directly from the files of ‘Captain Obvious‘.”

    While simultaneously delivering a statement directly from the files of ‘Admiral Understatement‘.

    Liked by 7 people

  14. Sherri Young says:

    Definitely prefer Matt Whitaker over Judge Nap or Alan Dershowitz.

    Liked by 5 people

  15. Perot Conservative says:

    Previous interviews on this topic have speculated that Orr is cooperating, as he still has a job.

    Of he has children, and if Nellie is unemployed, that is critical to him. Motivated.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Dutchman says:

      On that, I put my hand up to my mouth, fake a cough and say “Bullshirt”.
      I’m not buying any speculation.

      Any and all ‘co-operation’ they could have gotten from him, by now.

      Besides, no longer being employed, and in fact FIRED for leaking, hasn’t kept McCabe from hanging out with his old buds at,DOJ and FBI, so why shiuld it prevent Bruce?

      Coarse with McCabe, feels like FBI/DOJ are cooperating with HIM, rather than the other way around.

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      • CountryDoc says:

        Irritatingly brazen they are.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Ray Runge says:

        Dutchman, USA does have a criminal justice system. Time for the perps to stand in to bar.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Oh, I KNOW, having gone THRU the Criminal Justice system, as a defendant, and representing en proper (representing myself), for traffic violations to major felonies, I am intimately familiar with the Criminal Justice system.
          And, DUE,to my experience, I actually developed a lot if respect for the system.
          And now, as I see whats happening, I feel like “WHERE did it go?”
          It infuriates me that they seem to have trashed something so rare and prescious.
          Was it perfect, this system I had developed such respect for?
          No, but it was damn good, and erred on the side of exoneration, which is better than erring the other way.
          And to see these arseholes trash it, stroxz and mccabe, comey, mueller and weisman, it sickens me.

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  16. California Joe says:

    Why was none of this misconduct investigated by Rod Rosenstein for over two years. Was Rosenstein on drugs? Rosenstein allowed the President of the United States to be framed not only for a crime that he never committed but a never even happened!

    Liked by 11 people

    • Dutchman says:

      Well, earlier in his career, Rosie WAS involved with an international drug intervention task force,…so was,Bruce Ohr, IIRC.
      Seriously, given the steller job they both did in all this, I really wonder what was going on with this international drug interdiction that they were working on!
      Were they the ‘point men’ working WITH the,Cartels? Wouldn’t surprise me at,all, at this point.
      Perhaps they funneled the,$ from el chapo and his competitiin, to Capital Hill?

      Liked by 4 people

    • He’s on someone else’s payroll, imo.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      Rosenstein wasn’t interested in investigating crimes or upholding the law, sooner or later it would’ve exposed his own crimes.

      PDJT was surrounded by a lot of people after the election, but none were on his side.
      They were all owned by others. At least the Lone Ranger had Tonto. PDJT fought alone.
      Some so called lawmakers were talking impeachment before he was even sworn in.
      I say a prayer for our president each day, usually twice a day.

      https://biblepic.com/44/isaiah_2-4.htm

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      • mopar2016 says:

        Woops, wrong thread, here it is.

        Liked by 2 people

        • raptors2020 says:

          Yeah but, Dinesh..why? Why are the same sort of people attracted to slavery and segregation, attracted to the welfare state? My read; the common denominator is the class structure, built in to the social welfare state, or feudalism. You get free crumbs, I get to rule; what’s not to like, for the rich, anyway?

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      • Raptors2020 says:

        Trump is a giant, plagued by fleas. They attack in petty ways. That is all they know. PapaD was sent to jail for lying to the FBI. He told them he met Mifsud in March, and it was actually April. Or, the other way around. This is Flea Logic. This is how they attack. Trump is just stepping over them. What else do you do with insects?

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  17. MelH says:

    There are several lawyers among us. Can’t one of them tell us how we can affect laws that are obvious but being ignored. Can some of us sue Wolfe? Or does EVERYTHING against the DOJ have to be approved by the DOJ before seeing a courtroom?

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    • ristvan says:

      So, I am one. And the general answer is, you can’t.
      The laws you refer to in this case are mostly federal criminal (since civil liability is usually (but not always—civil rights statutes) a matter of common law). And federal criminal laws require action by an official federal prosecutor, exercising prosecutorial discretion.
      A recent past example McCabe referral to US DC DA Jessie Liu for three IG proven counts of perjury, 18USC§1621. Nothing.

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      • Dutchman says:

        When a city has crooked cops, prosecutors,and judges, USUALLY the,Feds come in, to break it up.

        When it is the FEDERAL system that has been ‘bought off’ who ya gonna call?

        GHOSTBUSTERS

        Which is ironic, since I.C. are often referred to as ‘spooks’or ‘ghosts’,…

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        • CountryDoc says:

          yes, even our U.S. ghosts are corrupt. Who has authority to sweep that house clean? Should be the President, and under him….?

          Liked by 1 person

          • Dutchman says:

            Well, the I.G. system was nuetered under Obama, and I’m sure the deep state appreciated that.
            DOJ/FBI has a dept, thats like internal affairs, but forget the name.
            Funny, ‘Conspiracy Theory’ had some guys, they never said who, that were like,spies watching the spies.
            ‘3 days of the Condor’ had the ‘cleaner’, who cleaned up their messes, quietly.
            Looks like Hollywood had a good idea, that was never adopted for real.
            If we HAD something like that, Bill and Hillary would have slipped the,surly bonds 20 years ago, and we wouldn’t be IN this mess, this deep hole we are in.
            The POTUS, the OFFICE of the POTUS, obviously hasn’t “Controlled” the IC for a long time.
            Its not a few gone rogue, its the whole damn thing.

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      • Johnny says:

        I am interested in the people convening a grand jury under common law and having the Sheriffs arrest these seditious government employees.

        Any legal leg to stand on in this convoluted legal system.

        Or do we the people go back to common law from we the people.

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        • Sherri Young says:

          The District of Columbia has an “attorney general” whose office handles everything but criminal cases. The criminal cases go to the US Attorney for the DC district — Jessie Liu.

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          • franz dorn says:

            Liu did get an indictment for Wolfe six weeks after the McCabe referral. The Wolfe indictment did not tip the grand jury off as to the big picture. https://fas.org/sgp/news/2018/06/wolfe-indict.pdf However McCabe’s sitution was well publicized and connected by the facts to Hillary. Grand Jury had at least two witnesses summonsed.

            Grand Jury investigation may be still pending but may reflect futility of grand jury to indict.

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          • franz dorn says:

            Liu did get an indictment for Wolfe six weeks after the McCabe referral. The Wolfe indictment did not tip the grand jury off as to the big picture. https://fas.org/sgp/news/2018/06/wolfe-indict.pdf However McCabe’s sitution was well publicized and connected by the facts to Hillary. Grand Jury had at least two witnesses summonsed.

            Grand Jury investigation may be still pending but may reflect futility of grand jury to indict.

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        • CountryDoc says:

          How can the people rise up and demand their government be reset?

          I realize that FIRST, there must be a critical mass of the commoners who are able to see and be moved to rise up. And our President is doing a brilliant job at shining sunlight into every nook and cranny of the deep swamp.

          But once awakened and determined to once again pledge our lives and sacred honor to defeat the crooked lot of others who have violated that same oath— what mechanism do we use.

          I was chastised and told to stand down and stop drinking so much coffee when I asked about an uprising using our 2nd Amendment. I was told — it’s too late, it won’t work, we’ll be labeled vigilantes, or “trust the president” or “trust the process”.

          The Battle of Athens worked at local level.

          I would feel better if masses of people were at least being fired, or quarrantined legally while being investigated so they couldn’t continue to cover up or collude to brainwash the public. Something to at least neutralize and stop the invasion/corruption/cancer. But they are still allowed to function.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Thanks Ristavan – that is really depressing. What I’m reading from this is that the only way that citizens can address Governmental corruption is through armed rebellion.

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      • Pretty depressing…

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      • fractionalexponent says:

        Ristvan, are states or sheriffs prohibited from enforcing any/all federal laws?

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      • booger71 says:

        Rivistan…I someone like McCabe or anyone else commits a Federal crime isn’t it against all of us U.S. citizens? Does it always have to be tried in a DC court? Or am I being naive?

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      • Julian says:

        AG Barr will lead the prosecution of McCabe.

        Count on it.

        Trump wouldn’t have put him there otherwise.

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      • MelH says:

        Ristvan, thanks for the info!

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  18. albertus magnus says:

    Is it 100% that Bruce and Nellie Ohr were sketchy and concerning from the beginning.

    However, what it even MORE CONCERNING, to me anyway, is the lack of ANYBODY holding them accountable…especially after months of threats and tick-tocking.

    Simply no way to run a DOJ.

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  19. Still can’t figure out what Whitaker’s “angle” is….who’s he working for….why is he disseminating this info (or spreading rumors)? Is he prepping the battlefield for the DOJ or working on his own book deal?

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    • BobR says:

      Very concerning translated:
      “We ain’t doing &%^# about this except trotting out here every once in awhile to throw it in your face.
      Get the message yet?

      Liked by 4 people

    • I thought Whitaker has been busy auditioning for a job as a Fox News Contributor. Starting pay $250k I heard.

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    • jackphatz says:

      Whitaker might just be that person sent out to pat our heads, for our benefit to keep us from going postal on all of the people who should be indicting and prosecuting all those people who need to go to jail. Barr would not want us banging on his door demanding justice be done if it’s not done yet….not that it ever will be but…you know.
      Anyway…he seems like such a nice man.

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      • CountryDoc says:

        Sometimes I doubt my trust of anyone….. even the president, sundance, CTH — they they are all pacifying what should be an uprising of an anesthetized republic, which has all the power, but can’t operate as long as it is anesthetized.

        Other times, I have fantasies after seeing the massive crowds at PDJT rallies — what if he were to all of a sudden call on the masses to recall, evict the majority of the politicians in office now, having backups ready to be elected immediately

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        • jackphatz says:

          And then we remember how Romney lost to the second worst potus ever largely due to media malfeasance.
          Everyday I try harder to just stop looking at the internet. It’s feeds a sickness.

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        • sDee says:

          “pacifying what should be an uprising of an anesthetized republic”

          It seems that is the only justice available to us Doc. And it also seems you point to the necessary means for it to commence. Will we?

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          • CountryDoc says:

            By what means? Armed? Door to door and media education? Replacing politicians in congress, or people in government positions including deep state, doesn’t change anything until the unified purpose of our government changes.

            Seems like some fundamental differences are in the goals. The inalienable rights of the Declaration are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

            Liberty is freedom to choose your goals and way of life, think, express, and be. The left thinks it means anything they want is OK, as long as it is what they want.

            Pursuit of Happiness to the right is about opportunities. To the left it means free stuff without responsibility. To the left seeking power it is about keeping people dependent on the government.

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    • GB Bari says:

      IMO Whitaker has been assigned the task of “tempering expectations.”

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    • CountryDoc says:

      We here at CTH were singing praises of Whitaker a few months ago, then he left. What the heck?

      Trump is kicking butt on the economy. Maybe he is the one dragging all this out. They are whining, but he is advancing mightily on the economy. Maybe he has the greatest freedom to do what he has wanted to do with the economy with people right where they are. He would do better if they were helping and not obstructing — but maybe he doesn’t want new unknown people in congress, but known enemies with whom he has leverage, and who, while whining and obstructing a little, can’t obstruct in a big way because it would cause more sunlight on their globalist/communist/Uniparty/greedy motivations.

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      I believe he has joined a lobbying firm. Perhaps the sudden accessibility is to promote him so there is more value for the firm. If he comes out as sane, knowledgeable, and has “insider” knowledge, more companies would look to his firm as clients?

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  20. If Satan sponsored an anti-rapture and took all of these evil MF’ers to Hell tomorrow I would not be one bit grieved.

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  21. TradeBait says:

    He said nothing we haven’t already known for a long time. So what? I wonder if any of the DOJ types care about how “concerned” We the People are at their performance?

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    • WSB says:

      It is looking more and more like Whitaker was baby sat at the DOJ and may become a full time contributor to Fox?

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    • sedge2z says:

      Whittaker may be repeating “matters” we already know at TCTH, but on this same thread we agree that about 95% of Americans are NOT aware of our government’s deceptions and powerful manipulations.

      American citizens who are not in politics rather hear their nightly news from a guy like Whittaker who does not speak in lawyer tongue.

      PS: On Dan Bongino show, he finally gave credit to The Conservative Treehouse as one of his news resources.

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  22. islandpalmtrees says:

    We already knew Nellie Ohr worked for the CIA as an open source analyst in years past (see below), together with Bruce and Fusion’s Glenn Simpson.

    FOIA documents seem to indicate she was working for the DOJ-NSD in 2015 and 2016.

    This means Nellie Ohr was working for Fusion GPS AND the DOJ at the same time.

    Did Nellie Ohr worked for, John P. Carlin (NSD), who worked for, Loretta Lynch, who worked for, Obama?


    Carlin is pictured above on the left. He is standing next to his bosses, Loretta Lynch (sitting down), and James Comey (standing, right). President Barack Obama appointed Lynch Attorney General, and Comey FBI Director.

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    • Raptors2020 says:

      They are all leftists. They protect each other. That’s what Barr is up against. Attack any, you attack them all. This truth broke Sessions within days. The DOJ will cease to function if you attempt to prosecute the Coup plotters. Bruce Ohr has negotiated amnesty for himself, his wife, and..?

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      • Sherri Young says:

        They have to be indicted as a group under RICO and RICO conspiracy. Trying to pick them off one by one makes no sense and does not present the case. One day they are walking around being strangely nervous but arrogant and letting John Brennan do their talking. The next day, they are all under indictment.

        At least that is how I see things.

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        • CountryDoc says:

          Sherri, this is on the order that I pray for things to happen. But this is a form of the “Big Ugly” we used to talk about on this site.

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        • sedge2z says:

          Indicted as a group would the best way for US citizens to instantly understand what has been going on in our government.

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          • David A says:

            Apparently going after every action of the deep state in isolation, is the chosen method for protecting the swamp.

            I used to give the DOJ a break, thinking that even a mob investigation could take years; and the federal government was far bigger and more corrupt then
            the mob.

            Now this pattern of isolation of each act of corruption ( as an example, separating protecting HRC, clear obstruction of justice, from the offensive against P. Trump) appears to be the chosen method of, as Sundance says, negotiating through what the informed public has proof of.

            The soft coup was and is a conspiracy, an unprecedented crime to obstruct justice from pursuing crimes of the Obama and Clinton administration, and remove a sitting President.

            Via isolating each and every act of this conspiracy, the guilty are merely portrayed as incompetent, in need of better department policy and training to prevent future technically illegal acts, that were committed without nefarious intent. That is their story, and, AFAICT, they are sticking to it.

            All the best.

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            • islandpalmtrees says:

              My take is a little different-
              “Sundance says, negotiating through what the informed public has proof of”. Do I prosecute what the public knows about and forget the rest. In short, what the public knows about is the top of the Corrupt Iceberg.

              Example: If I take to many people out of the DOJ at one time will it continue to function as an Institution. This reminds me of the old movie “Patton”. When question about why he still used Nazis to run the rail road. He said when they send me the people with the right training I will get rid of them.

              Otherwise how will it continue to function.

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        • underwhelmingposter says:

          Just curious, are Brennan and Clapper still “all over” CNN and MSNBC? Haven’t heard much lately.

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      • Your Tour Guide says:

        Harp on this all the time. Carlin is the enforcer.
        The smooth talker who can make your blood
        feel like it will stop flowing with one look.

        Met such a person wayyyy back. Didn’t say
        much didn’t have to. Couldn’t hardly breathe
        the rest of the day.

        View any of his videos with Judy Woodruff
        (Frontpage? I believe when NPR was helping
        push all things Russia).

        Turn the sound off. Watch his body language.
        Watch how he shoots glances to keep people
        in line. Reminds me of Bugsy sitting in the back
        of the trial, patting his gun pocket when a witness
        hits the stand.

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        • Your Tour Guide says:

          Re-looked at the picture.

          Look at Comey’s expression. The
          way he’s glancing at Carlin. Not an
          expression of affirmation for what’s
          being said. More an expression of
          hoping that he didn’t do anything to
          piss him off.

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        • CountryDoc says:

          So Carlin is a Jedi from the Dark Side, PDJT is a Jedi from the Rebellion. Do we have any other Jedis on our side? I know there are many among retired military, and many other professions, and among us at CTH. Nunes? Jordan is not yet a JEDI. Maybe the five economic friends of the president. They are the frontier of PDJT’s success.

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        • Peoria Jones says:

          This was such an interesting comment, I did as you said and found the vid below. But to me, Carlin is not intimidating at all. He seems like a dweeby dork, with a mousy, high-pitched voice.

          Seems to me more likely that he’s been brainwashed – and really believes his cult is on the side of good – rather than simply being evil. He is clearly highly intelligent, and probably never fit in as a kid. Now he has lots of powerful, like-minded friends.

          Many of these people ARE evil. But I believe some possess deep-seated underlying psychological issues, and really believe what they’re spewing. Years of indoctrination has led them to the lefty mindset, and it’s all they know.

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          • Your Tour Guide says:

            Carlin DOES come across as a bit more amiable.
            In this instance. The ones that I drew my conclusion
            from had Woodruff, and a panel. With Carlin sitting
            down at the end, showing that he’s keeping close track
            of what’s being said. The panelists are all paying close
            attention to his actions, so that he won’t be displeased.

            Guy just creeps me out. And, I’ve only come across
            a very small number of people that operate like him.
            All have been bad news. One was a mobster.

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  23. Firefly says:

    This is so surreal. Whitaker was the acting AG. He talks like a pundit- like he knew very little and couldn’t or wouldn’t do anything.

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    • John says:

      He is still “acting!”

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    • livefreeordieguy says:

      I’m sure Mr. Whitaker is a loyal, hard-working American but, to me, he looks like the runner-up to Chris Wray in the “Mr. Empty-Suit” contest… Whitaker could be on cable TV for the next hundred years and will never say a meaningful thing… It is astonishing how unimpressive these people are…

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Probably not a lot that he should say while the DOJ has two US Attorneys and the IG involved in reviews and probably building cases. It is not like an investigation which would come out of the FBI and referred to the DOJ for prosecution.

        I would like to know who is doing the further investigatory work when the FBI and DOJ are in the crosshairs. Would that be the US Marshals?

        I think Matt Whitaker is a non-leaker. Chris Wray is a coverer upper. There is a difference.

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        • livefreeordieguy says:

          I agree Chris Wray is a coverer-upper… No question about that… The jury is still out on Whitaker in my book… I would say time will tell, but I somehow think Whitaker will just fade away… He appears to me to be a go-along-get-along careerist… If you don’t stick your neck out, it can’t get cut off… As I said, unimpressive as so many are… Just one man’s view.

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        • Sherri Young says:

          This man added a link in his Twitter profile to a google drive sorted data base of the Midyear Exam files in the Hillary Clinton FBI Vault files.

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  24. thedoc00 says:

    The crux problem may be who will actually follow orders or follow them faithfully and fully, within the Executive Branch of Government.

    A federal career (hiring to retiring) is 20-30 years. We had a full Fed Career cycle Carter-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama whereby the entire working level of the Executive branch was replaced. Also, during that cycle rules for punishing or removing a non-appointee and even appointees were drastically changed to preclude a President and his cabinet leadership from ensuring the Executive Branch reflected the President’s intended policies. Add to that the Republican Party has refused for nearly 3 years to even grant the President his 1st choices in leadership.

    This may be the real issue facing AG Barr and that faced AG Whittaker. It is even impacting DHS, DoD and State Department operations. Its just not the DoJ that needs to be reset, replaced or eliminated.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      So, even if the President does get a leader he wants, that person will have to weed out the rot at a pace of 1 rotten person at a time, while loosing case/psotion or having collateral damage done during the process.

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    • CountryDoc says:

      As I have said before, more healing effort is needed by every good citizen. Our president and his scattered patriots in our government cannot do it alone. I am waiting for the materialization of more organization at the grassroots level.

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  25. Johnny says:

    In a comment above from one of our lurking lawyers “Ristvan”

    He spells it out plain and simple.

    Federal laws are superior to the common law of we the people. In other words he is telling us that there is not a damn thing we can do to the seditious agents attempting an overthrow of our Republic because laws as writing make us the inferior now. That should open your eyes.

    Now I for one did not serve in our military and watch friends of mine give their lives for our Republic to watch it slip from our fingers by a bunch of twisted laws wrote by twisted lawyers serving in our government and congress.

    It is time for COMMON LAW by we the PEOPLE to take control of this mess and clean out the den of vipers in the UN HOLY city of DC.

    People we are gonna have to take a stand now. AG BARR needs to understand thst he holds the key to this powder keg.

    This is the line in the sand for SEDITIOUS

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    • Rhi says:

      Agree wholeheartedly with you Johnny and thank you for your service!
      Are you listening Barr? Our Republic hangs in the balance. We are awake and watching intently. Consider carefully the consequences of not upholding justice. Please.

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  26. As I have already stated, I find it strange and disturbing that Whitaker has suddenly started the TV rounds. And not in a good way.

    I still feel the same. Hope I am proven wrong.

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  27. jus wundrin says:

    You sitting on your hands and doing nothing about it is also very concerning, Matt.

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  28. Chewbarkah says:

    Isn’t it interesting that the 302’s of Ohr’s interviews ends with 13 pages of an anti-NRA screed by ThinkProgress alleging that Russkii oligarchs paid the NRA to support Trump? (Is even the FBI stupid enough to think someone had to PAY the NRA to oppose Hillary “Gun Ban” Clinton?). But there is no evidence of political bias. No sirree.

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  29. Sherri Young says:

    thespygateproject.org is the source I use for Spygate texts, timelines, charts, etc. Today, I landed on the the twitter timeline for the man who runs that show. He has a pinned year-old thread that is germane to this discussion.

    Plenty to chew on there. Down in the thread is mention of a shortwave radio license based at that address. The stated purpose is for building maintenance. Maybe so, but that building seems to be something of a spook palace.

    IIRC, somebody here knew the approx location of the Ohr’s house (maybe on her ham radio operator license?) and the range she could expect with her unit. Can anybody throw in with a learned opinion about if she could communicate with another operator at that building in Chantilly, VA?

    Gracias.

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Short wave (microwave) communicates 30 miles line of site. For further communications, you need different set-ups. You need an unencumbered dish antenna or dipole antenna to communicate. But once in the air, anyone scanning transmission frequencies could pick up communication. So it is not secret unless there is some type of coding going on (Enigma for short wave?).

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Chantilly a fair bit west of McClain VA. I recall something about that area and SW.

      Maybe not ohr residence, but a regular mtg place. I speculated: SW partly dependent on line of sight. McClain mtg place = hotel bar. Get a room and have goid line if sight.

      McClain to area around white house: downhill . McClain to chantilly far, but up hill. Maybe.

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  30. islandpalmtrees says:

    Does anyone have more links between Nellie Ohr and Carlin (NSD)?

    The following is from Sundance’s earlier work.

    DOJ-NSD head John P Carlin was setting up Rogers as the scapegoat while knowing the NSA FISA compliance officer was still reviewing their conduct. Carlin wouldn’t notify the court unless he was trying to cover something. Carlin then announced his resignation.

    The NSD unit was working in coordination with the **FBI Counterintelligence Unit** (Peter Strzok etc.).

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  31. My opinion is that Nellie and Strzok were/are CIA. Maybe even Bruce. Therefore Nellie and Bruce were just doing their (secret) jobs. I’d like to know their relationship to the evil twins Brennan and Clapper.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Reference my post above – I believe Nellie was working for the NSD in 2015 and 2016. I wonder if the link between Nellie and Strzok is Counterintelligence ?

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      • I wish I knew for sure. From what I remember reading on Nellie she is a Communist sympathizer and fluent Russian speaker/translator with CIA ties, conveniently married to the right person.
        It looks like CIA/NSA puts its people undercover in various government agencies depending on the project. This was a government project from the beginning, to keep DJT from becoming PDJT. The fact that it was a government project requires the whole support network and masterminds to be uncovered for Justice to prevail. It the plan came from the White House as a directive, Justice will be very hard to attain. So many project employees thrown under the bus that the wheels can’t move forward any more.

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        • islandpalmtrees says:

          According to a Hannity show on 8/15/19 Obama had to know about the Counterintelligence operation and even received reports on it progress.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        Based on the following, Nellie started in 2015 and worked for the NSD. Could Nunes be talking about Nellei Ohr?

        “Nunes indicated there is evidence the illegal counterintelligence investigation into Trump and his associates started back in 2015, not July of 2016 as the FBI claims.”

        The above was taken from the article “The Counterintelligence Department Over at the FBI is in Big Trouble’ (VIDEO)”. NSD does Counterintelligence for the DOJ.

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      • tucker7518 says:

        Strzok was a Russian expert, and Nellie could speak Russian and had Russian contacts.

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  32. ozymandiasssss says:

    a lot riding on Mr. Durham. but what he says is, what they want to do is, make sure it never happens again. so that’s it. maybe a firing offense, as he says.

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  33. Bogeyfree says:

    Unfortunately IMO too many are afraid of the Deep State.

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  34. LULU says:

    I am glad to know that I am not the only one having mixed feelings about Whittaker. First of all, I thought he was sort of a temp placeholder. When Barr arrived on the scene, I thought Whittaker was gone. But he keeps popping up. His measured tone and language give me the willies. Who says “concerning” when talking about the duplicitous Ohrs? Talk about corporatespeak…

    I find myself being not a fan of Whittaker…

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  35. EggsX1 says:

    The Ohr’s help set up a coup attemp. Because of their ‘work’, the DoJ/FBI questions scores of people, each paying lawyers 10’s of thousands of dollars. For anybody the DoJ/FBI target, they leak stories, lie to judges, twist law to come up with obscure crimes. They effected policy and the public’s opinions. They effected elections.

    These bureaucracies are unaccountable. No one can be fired unless the crime is ridiculously bad. Who decides who is fired? Another bureaucracy. Why wouldn’t the ‘small’ group feel like they could do anything.

    The system protects itself. How can we expect the system to reform itself?

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  36. k4jjj says:

    Everything we hear about the FBI and DOJ sounds “fishy.”

    What kind of worthless legal system is this?

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  37. CountryDoc says:

    These treasonous criminals strut around in the open with no shame, brazen, cocky confident despite what is known and out in the open. We gloat as we play the video collages of so many saying “Trump will never be president”, yet they are still bold and brazen, like a pack of hyenas. I pray nearly daily that every last one of these jackals is marked, numbered, and spoken for by a developing team of white hats who have a plan of justice to hand them that will be memorable for the world.

    I pray that there is a team of white hat patriots working for good Their primary objective must be first to rebuild the U.S. government according to the principles and plans that our founders. Our founders patterned our republic after faith in our Maker, and respect for the history of governments and civilizations of the world. They were brilliant, and, I believe, inspired.

    Some days I am impatient and pray for the elimination of evil ones now. Other days, I realize that the greatest strides will be made, the more of our everyday citizens are awakened and appreciate the evil that has been done.

    A republic is harder to build and maintain. It recently dawned on me that the same divisions of power into different branches of government that protects us, also makes it that much harder to prosecute evil in it. Especially if, (like a cancer), it is spread to other branches (organs) of the government.

    To fight cancer, it must be studied. You cant just cut it all out, or radiate it all, or treat it with chemotherapy. You have to understand what keeps the normal parts of the body healthy, what makes the cancer grow and how it spreads, and the long term effects of each weapon on both the cancer and the patient.

    If this country were a patient with cancer, it would be deemed stage IV, with widespread metastasis, and several fractions still operating in the open, while many others not known.

    While we pray for the mercy of God, and the submission to God and wisdom of our leaders, we must be doing everything possible locally to keep those around us healthy, and expose the evil to the sunlight.

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  38. Because of Sundance, We The People here at the treehouse KNOW A LOT!!!

    So put that in your fake news pipe and smoke it!
    Thank you Sundance!

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  39. Whittaker has become quite the Matthew Milquetoast since his exit from the AG office. And — so far — Barr seems to be not much better, despite all boasting to the contrary.

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  40. YvonneMarie says:

    This is all disgusting.
    These sons & daughters of bitches should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the LAW
    of our Republic.
    This is soooooo obvious. Everyone dances around.it.
    Evil runs rampant when the Church is weak.
    Yes I said it !

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    • Sherri Young says:

      We don’t yet have any assurance that they won’t be prosecuted.

      The IG’s new report should see the light of day pretty soon and might kick things off.

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      • underwhelmingposter says:

        One of the things I notice here is that some posters believe that all these “pundits” ought to spill there guts out at a moments notice and to do it every time they have the opportunity. A frequent target of extreme vitriol has been Trey Gowdy, who knows a great deal. He always measures his comments and responses to questions. Rudy Guliani also has substantial information regarding all of this. And he comes darn close to letting it out, on occasion. Lately he has been more measured, so I think he has been alerted that saying too much could cause other problems. Whittaker is somewhat the same. He definitely is much more measured than the others, so by comparison, he comes off as a shill for the DoJ. Would I like all their knowledge right now? Absolutely. But just as in business, you cannot tell everyone everything. Frustrating, YES. But not unreasonable IMO.

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  41. sDee says:

    I liken it more to parasites Doc. Government is incapable of reforming itself nor limiting itself. Unless we pluck them from our skin or poison them from our organs they will fatten and multiply until we die. They damn sure won’t do is, decide among themselves that the host has had enough.

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  42. Whitaker did nothing as AAG, so acting ignorant now is his CYA activity for that failure/dereliction in office. They all have their public excuses, and have been trotting them out with alacrity. They know our do-nothing federal law enforcement will not call them on it.

    And I would advise you all to not listen to “ristvan” or anybody else who tells you there is nothing we can do under the law. Dinesh D’Souza showed one thing, by making documentary movies of the truth. Obviously another way is to make a TV documentary miniseries. I have also been suggesting mass civil disobedience, since Obamacare was “passed (falsely)” (yes, I know, you think that is weak, but they laughed at Gandhi too).

    The situation calls for more than your father’s law enforcement anyway (or on any reliance on the broken state to fix itself). The scofflaw cult that the Democrat party has become, with Obama’s agenda of vengeance against America, needs to be deprogrammed. That half of the country is literally insane (which is why I call them The Insane Left) and needs to be snapped out of it. Shock treatments are required (even some here are, like Whitaker, only “disturbed (and yet unseeing)” rather than incensed, at the deliberate inversion of reality being promulgated by the Left and the new, pro-Asian globalists); we have hoped the revealing of the high crimes, and prosecuting of the plotters, would suffice as sufficient shocks to make them see the hard truth — but the DOJ will have none of it, nor apparently will any state AG. They are all intent on defining the New America out from under us. After all of human history, they literally cannot see how futile and misguided — irrelevant, immaterial and incompetent — is their chosen way to the future.

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    • I don’t think civil disobedience is weak. I have often thought in this current situation that people need to just pour out of their homes and workplaces and sit down in the middle of the highways and sit down in the courtrooms and sit down in the Capitol building and bring the country to a halt until the criminals are removed from office and the treasonous locked up, It happens in other countries…people just go out into the streets. It doesn’t have to be just in DC…all across the country. Bring commerce and government to a halt until justice is done.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Such a protest would be blamed on PDJT. At the very least, bringing commerce to a halt would be very nonMAGA.

        Just a little more patience.

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        • desperatelyseekingmelania says:

          He’s probably the only one who can call for it and make it happen

          Who cares if they blame it on him? They blame everything in the known universe on him already

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  43. Right to reply says:

    I have no anger left. I’m just waiting for prosecutions, and for Trump to declassify. If he doesn’t do it, obviously there is no one else to vote for, but I will never look at America through the same eyes again. All pretty scary really.

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  44. youme says:

    Bruce and Nellie Ohr and the plot against the Trump presidency by the Obama presidency. AndrewCMcCarthy

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  45. H.R. says:

    Whitaker is concerned? That a funny way to spell ‘indictments.’ Oh wait… he had his chance and passed on it. Now he just looks silly… or incompetent… or complicit.

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  46. Johnny Dollar says:

    The Ohr’s were not coup people.

    The Ohr’s were bit players, outside the mainstream players orbit, both before the election and after the election.

    And that’s, really, how you have to analyze their behavior – what they did before the election and what they did after the election.

    Before the election they were both focused on one thing – getting Hillary Clinton elected.

    Their part in getting that done was getting the FBI to open a public investigation into the Dossier. That’s what Hillary wanted them to do. That’s what Fusion wanted them to do. That’s what Steele wanted them to do. And that’s what they tried to do. But failed to do.

    Reason? The FBI already had the Dossier. They didn’t need Ohr to get it for them. Steele had already given it to the FBI. In 2016, Steele worked for the FBI.

    What Hillary did not know prior to the election was that the FBI wanted the Dossier to open FISA and, post election, launch Mueller
    What Ohr did not know prior to the election was that the FBI wanted the Dossier to open FISA. and, post election, launch Mueller
    What Steele did not know prior to the election was that the FBI wanted the Dossier to open FISA and, post election, launch Mueller

    There was no way in hell the FBI, prior to the election, was going to open a public investigation into the Dossier because public discussion would have revealed the Dossier as junk and, so, put an end to the Dossier as FISA/Mueller justification.

    What the FBI screwed up on was that had they opened a public investigation of the Dossier as Hillary wanted them to do, the ensuing publicity might have gotten her elected.

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  47. Tseg says:

    Yeh, whatever, let me know when we’ve infiltrated the Deep State and actually charge sonebody with a crime. I assume… never.

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  48. JoeMeek says:

    You sound like you are very old. I’m guessing you are much younger than that, but you will very likely be in the old folks home gumming pudding before any of us see any one of these criminals in a federal pen. BTW, save some of the pudding for the rest of us.

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  49. Right to reply says:

    So, reading the general responses, it appears they have achieved their goal. Ground us down emotionally until we no longer care. That’s how it works, isn’t it?

    The media in the UK used to publish daily outrage of the flooding of the country with essentially a youthful Islamic army. People would listen, would read, get angry, and then they became emotionally exhausted, and just accepted it as the new norm.

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  50. islandpalmtrees says:

    Was Matt Whitaker signaling at things the DOJ sees as important?

    Matt Whitaker told Gregg Jarrett the entire situation surrounding Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr was very concerning to him.

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