IG Horowitz Investigators Interviewed Chris Steele June 3rd – 5th, 16 Hour Session….

Comey FBI apologist, Fusion GPS co-conspirator and Lawfare Alliance media narrative engineer, Natasha Bertrand, has an outline published today on the background interview of dossier author Christopher Steele.

From within the article, beyond the sympathetic propaganda, some overarching details are interesting:

♦(1) As expected Mr. Steele would only talk to OIG investigators from Horowitz’s office; Steele would not speak to speak to U.S. Attorney John Durham.

♦(2) The interview took place at the same time President Trump traveled to the U.K (June 3rd-5th) for a state visit.  Likely coordinated so FBI officials could travel innocuously without media scrutiny (lots of security officials traveled on behalf of U.S. interests at the time); likely the preferred timing of Steele himself.

♦(3) The interview(s) took place over two days for a total of sixteen hours of conversation. The recent reports of IG delay and follow-up interviews are almost certainly related to the outcome of the investigative findings (ie. Kathleen Kavalec cooperation etc.).

♦(4) Current officials within the DOJ/FBI; with obvious interests related to the corrupt activity surrounding the FBI and DOJ use of Steele (ie. McCabe and Comey apologists); are leaking the content of the investigative interviews to their notorious Lawfare Alliance media cohorts, ie. Natasha Bertrand.

WASHINGTON DC – Christopher Steele, the former British spy behind the infamous “dossier” on President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia, was interviewed for 16 hours in June by the Justice Department’s internal watchdog, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The interview is part of an ongoing investigation that the Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, has been conducting for the past year. Specifically, Horowitz has been examining the FBI’s efforts to surveil a one-time Trump campaign adviser based in part on information from Steele, an ex-British MI6 agent who had worked with the bureau as a confidential source since 2010.

The extensive, two-day interview took place in London while Trump was in Britain for a state visit, the sources said, and delved into Steele’s extensive work on Russian interference efforts globally, his intelligence-collection methods and his findings about Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, who the FBI ultimately surveilled. The FBI’s decision to seek a surveillance warrant against Page — a warrant they applied for and obtained after Page had already left the campaign — is the chief focus of the probe by Horowitz.

The interview was contentious at first, the sources added, but investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising. The takeaway has irked some U.S. officials interviewed as part of the probe — they argue that it shouldn’t have taken a foreign national to convince the inspector general that the FBI acted properly in 2016. Steele’s American lawyer was present for the conversation.  (read more)

Steele’s American lawyer is likely Adam Waldman (far left), the same U.S. lawyer/lobbyist who was working to put Steele in touch with SSCI Vice-Chairman Mark Warner in 2017.

Attorney Waldman has interests in alignment with the Lawfare network and direct connection to Daniel Jones, Dianne Feinstein’s former chief-of-staff who also took millions from resistance operatives (more Lawfare and Fusion-GPS allies) to continue funding Steele’s work afer the Trump inauguration.

Attorney Adam Waldman was also the lawyer representing Oleg Deripaska (pictured above on right); who we now know was paying Christopher Steele for research in 2016 while Steele was writing the dossier.

It’s one big convoluted network of allied interests, mixed with current and former DOJ and FBI officials who have a self-interest in hiding their illicit behavior.  Almost all of the people within this network have ideological allies in the media, and depending on the subject issue at hand they are described in relative terms:

“Beach friends” (Christine Blasey Ford); “Lawfare Alliance” (Benjamin Wittes et al); FBI Washington Field Office and Main Justice officials are all part of this group and were also the officials within the Mueller probe.   This network is all the same people, running in the same circles, meeting at the same parties, vacationing in the same areas and leaking to the same primary media contacts to project their narrative and defend their interests.

The article in Politico by Natasha Bertrand is a singular example. Quite simply this entire network is confident in their outlook that all of their behavior operates above the law.

Unfortunately, if the tone of the article is generally their position, it would appear they feel remarkably confident the investigation by IG Horowitz is nothing to fear.  This overall outlook is bolstered by the historic track record of the OIG with regard to the two most recent investigative summaries: (1) Andrew McCabe leaking to media, and (2) DOJ and FBI conduct in the Hillary Clinton investigation.

In October 2016, Main Justic and the FBI needed the Steele dossier to get the FISA warrant.  They needed the 2016 FISA warrant to cover-up for all of the unauthorized and illegal surveillance activity that was already underway throughout 2016.

The Russian election interference narrative; the use of Joseph Mifsud, Stefan Halper, the London and Australian embassy personnel; Erika Thompson, Alexander Downer, U.S. DIA officials; everything around Crossfire Hurricane; and everything after to include the construct of the Steele Dossier; all of it was needed for the creation of an ‘after-the-fact‘  plausible justification to cover-up what Mike Rogers discovered in early 2016, AND the downstream unmasked records that existed in the Obama White House SCIF.

Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 to research Donald Trump.  The intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. They already knew everything about the Trump campaign.

The Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a justification for pre-existing surveillance operations.  Fusion fulfilled that objective by contracting for the Steele Dossier.

That’s why the FBI, and later the Mueller team, were/are so strongly committed to, and defending, the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.  Once they had the dossier in hand the FBI proceeded forward for an ex post facto FISA warrant.

The goal was surveillance authority.

The FBI used the Carter Page FISA application. The FBI already knew Carter Page; essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the dossier in the system, and the FISA authority as justification to execute the “insurance policy”.

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261 Responses to IG Horowitz Investigators Interviewed Chris Steele June 3rd – 5th, 16 Hour Session….

  1. Dekester says:

    The negativity is saddening.

    It would be shocking to me that if necessary PDJT didn’t blow the whole f**king farce up.

    They have trashed him, his family,friends and business associates.

    The man is President of the U.S.A. he has information that could level every institution in your beloved country.

    Has he not said, attack me and I will punch back twice as hard.

    Not the words of a man that will accept B.S. and fluff.

    So what he gets impeached or whatever. Any right thinking individual would see that as a badge of honour and work twice as hard to get him re elected.

    I would be very careful if I was Mr Horowitz.

    My money is on Barr going down in history as a true saviour and honourable man.

    It is the RINO traitors ( Ryan et all.) that have created much of this, first by back stabbing and enabling. Then by throwing the house.

    For f**k sake. I am a Canadian, and I am livid at what’s going on.

    Goodness knows what the MAGA hat wearing throngs at rallies etc must be feeling.

    God bless PDJT

    Liked by 43 people

    • mariner says:

      That’s why we luv ya.


      Liked by 6 people

    • gda53 says:

      Agreed. IG’s report is NOT the criminal investigation.

      The IG’s report goes to the AG first, does it not? This is not AG Rosenstein rewriting the summary of the last IG report. You’re going to have to get this through AG Barr, and he is no Lawfare dupe in the DOJ. At least, not from everything he’s done and said so far.

      Have some faith in Barr/Durham. Keep an even keel.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Thanks, I agree. As stout supporters of Trump as the people on this site are, many/most expect the worst.

      The coup and Democrats know that the only way, the ONLY way, to defeat Trump is separate him from his support. The best way to do that is to dishearten us.

      Liked by 3 people

      • MaineCoon says:

        We must differentiate between being disheartened with the political system/swamp/our government/bureaucrats and being disheartened with President Trump to the point of not voting for him. The latter will never happen for me nor, imo, most Treepers, but many of us are disheartened with our crooked, criminal bureaucrats. There is no end to leakers, liars, and illegal activity by far too many. It’s become the rule not the exception. In spite of this, we support our President yet do not support those who are our enemy.

        Liked by 17 people

        • Robert Smith says:

          When Trump said that, “I could ‘shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters’ that was true for me then. Now with everything Trump has done and how he has fought for the average citizen it can’t be anything but stronger.

          Liked by 3 people

          • MaineCoon says:



          • CM-TX says:

            It was a cringe-worthy comment. The shooting part wouldn’t bother me. It’s the who– & whether it was justified. But that’s just me.


            • Donald says:

              Actually, the comment in question was not a ‘boast’ by Donald Trump.
              It’s what an exuberant pollster conveyed to the President as his support
              began to increase during 2016.
              The exact quote by Trump was, I believe, “I’m told that I could shoot etc..”
              It’s not consistent with Trump’s character to ever receive satisfaction from such
              a macabre reference. BUT HE DOES LOVE WHAT EXPERTS SAY! And it was in that vein that he relayed the strength of his support as conveyed to him by a pollster.


    • YvonneMarie says:

      Right 😏
      Agreed Dekester !

      Liked by 1 person

    • NYMinuteman says:

      Exactly what is the downside for Christopher Steele if he lies to Horowitz? Does he face charges and extradition to the US? Is the UK going to cooperate with any such attempt? why would Steele be allowed to talk only to an administrative investigator inside the DOJ and not a prosecutor? Why would the AG allow such a farce?

      How do the contents of a highly classified interview between the most senior US official and a Clinton operative LEAK before the report is published?

      How did Horowitz’s summary of his original report reflect not at all the actual content of the report??
      Very odd.

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      • steph_gray says:

        “How did Horowitz’s summary of his original report reflect not at all the actual content of the report??
        Very odd.”

        Not really. Rosenstein wrote the summary, or at least so I gathered from Sundance’s work at the time.

        Great rtilee then, as now.


    • I expect most of us, myself included, are feeling cold, cold anger


    • ms doodlebug says:

      Apparently there are those among us who believe the time has come when they can control over 326 million people. They seem to think we will relinquish our freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of movement…the freedoms we have known from birth. I think they are mistaken. Our President is not the only one who will punch back twice as hard.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Mooch says:

        Don’t look now ms doodlebug-but your freedom of speech is nearly gone, your freedom of religion (Christianity) has been under heavy attack for decades and your freedom of movement is tracked every second of every day

        Just exactly how do you intend to “punch back twice as hard”…I mean, I’m with ya’ on this, but we need a plan.

        Liked by 2 people

        • John-Y128 says:

          Exactly, it might come down to CW 2.0 because no ‘planning’ is being done by republicans, they’re still in tight with the establishment, who is controlling those 326+ million people. And DJT’s ‘PB2asHard’, seems reserved for his own personal attacks.


        • ms doodlebug says:

          You wouldn’t be so sure about my freedom of speech if you had ever tried to shut me up. lol And the thing about religion? No one can change what is in our hearts and what we believe. “A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.” Don’t know if that’s an exact quote or who said it other than it was a favorite of my mom. And she thought I never listened to her. lol

          Hitting back twice as hard is exposing the skeletons in the closets of our politicians. Bringing out of their closets what they are, not what they claim to be. Things they think we either don’t know or have forgotten. If we need reminders it’s all on the internet… Do twice to others what they do once to us. Can’t find that in the Bible, but I did find Jesus calling vipers vipers and sons of their father, satan…


    • Wallhouse Wart says:

      I am Canadian also and I am angry at what is going on. What happened to habeas corpus and innocent until proven guilty? Why should one man be hounded in such a way and why is the FBI allowed a full court press to arrest an individual in the middle of the night for minor crimes? This whole operation smacks of Stasi and Nazi raids on the unconvinced.


    • Road Rage says:

      The “credible” word thrown in as aside is all the leftwing is reporting now. This is certainly a fake statement made up by Lawfare. No investigator would ever make the statement that a witness was “credible”, especially these highly trained lawyers
      “Credible” is a layman’s term made up for this article. We will neve seer the word in Horowitz’s report. His exact testimony will be revealed for us to determine its “credibility”


    • Luz Maria Rodriguez says:

      Mr. Horowitz,
      Is you or is you not a man of high ethics and high morality.
      Please, please think very carefully, sir.


  2. TarsTarkas says:

    Now, where and how does Epstein fit into all this?

    This whole BS operation is and always was a political MeToo. It’s the seriousness of the accusations that seems to count, evidence be damned. If POTUS lets them get away with this, no opponent of the Democrats or their successor party, no matter how small, will ever be safe again.

    Liked by 2 people

    • stripmallgrackle says:

      I’m not sure yet if the Epstein arrest is another part of the plot. All I have so far is this:

      1) With the charges unsealed, Bill Clinton issues a provably false statement that he was on the Lolita Express only four times for business purposes. Flight records put him there 27 times, not always accompanied by SS. No attempt by MSM to dispute his claim.
      2) People have been removing passages about democrats from Epstein’s Wiki article. Trump’s name still there.
      3)Trump being described as Epstein friend, no mention in MSM of Epstein being barred from Trump properties.
      4)Epstein’s slap on the wrist was engineered during the run up to 2008. Motives and actions of the prosecutors are sure to be scrutinized during the current investigation.

      The attempted smearing of Trump could be opportunistic or it could be central to the so far failed take down, as well as misdirection when inconvenient questions drag the Clinton name into yet another scandal. It could also be a busy box for the media toddlers as the RussiaHoax investigations begin to generate headlines.

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    • Epstein is just noise – – something the MM can spout off on until the Mueller hearing.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Irisheyes says:

        I beg to differ. IMHO, the opposite is true – the Epstein case and it’s far-reaching tentacles has the potential to take a LOT of D.C. down, and has been brewing again since around the first of the year. Mueller had said he wasn’t going to testify, and suddenly he’s on the schedule. Smoke and mirrors to distract from the Epstein disclosures. Even B.C. is trying to get ahead of it with his pathetic “statement”.

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        • chipin8511 says:

          Hearing Jeff Sessions lead the charge on Epstein Trump knew the only way to take down the Clinton’s was through Epstein.Today Democrats should rejoice to get rid of the Clinton trash around their necks. USAF Vietnam era vet here I want to see Clinton’s hang before I die it would give me great pleasure. Corrupt trash Hillary is worse than Bill she used him.Do you know who gave Clinton real power and selected him to take over of all people Daddy Bush the real criminal in American history from Oil and drugs to politics to CIA to President and Kennedy assassination. fame? His father was a criminal 1937 era too.


  3. John says:

    1/2 the country already knows this is bullshit. Nothing from the IG, Mueller, Ny Times, Huber, Barr etc… is going to persuade me Russia wasn’t a big media stunt to topple the Trump presidency. I hope the President goes to Perot’s funeral and gets to talk about the two of them and the deep state.

    Patriots- we might not win every battle but we sure beat this one back a ton. We secured freedom for another 2 years (likely 6 and probably 10). And the courts although imperfect for another 10 years. We should take the summer off and come back energized to fight like hell to secure it. Make sure your children know what happened. They maybe temporarily brainwashed or not believe you right now but they will likely in the future. God Bless.

    Liked by 6 people

  4. Johnny Dollar says:

    The Reuter’s report is a complete fabrication.

    There is no evidence any of what Reuter’s published is fact. And their sources are as substantial as marshmallows.

    What the Reuter’s people , and their pals, are attempting to do is obvious. They are attempting to give the Dossier credibility. This after Kevalec and Ohr told theFBI the Dossier was not credible. As well as bunches of other people.

    Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, Strzok , Comey, are desperately trying to give the Dossier credibility. Hence the Reuter’s story. That’s their cover.

    But you know who else is desperate for that credibility ? The name that never shows up. The same name Trump is looking to hang.

    Hillary Clinton.

    She put the lie in motion. She paid for the Dossier. She was trying to sell a lie to the FBI.
    Last I heard, lying to the FBI was a no no.

    If Barr can show her Dossier was aimed at lying to the FBI……

    Liked by 3 people

    • Robert Smith says:

      Yes, Kavalec and Ohr said watch out for this guy. So the IG talks to the the guy and says everything checks out!

      How is that? The IG checked out the Dossier allegations? No, they just took Steele’s word that he had no intent to mislead and will relate that since they can’t prove/disprove either side.


      • Dutchman says:

        A leftist rag, Politico put out a crap article supposedly saying what the result of 16 hours of IG interveiwing Steele produced, and your upset?

        Hell, why don’t we just tell Horowitz “stand down”, on your report. We already got all we need from Politico’s unsourced, spun and outright lieing article?

        Such a reaction is a perfect example of WHY the media continue to pull this crap; because it works. A certain % of people, on both ends of the,spectrum, will ‘buy’the crap they are selling.

        As for me, I will wait for the ACTUAL report, but thats just me.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Robert Smith says:

          I think I’m wise to their media games, but I’m just trying to make some sense in this thread. These foreboding threads are usually the first reaction on here.

          Liked by 1 person

  5. A2 says:

    Bollocks. Reuter’s was the original report, politico just repeated it almost verbatim. It is all about Carter Page and his Russian contacts. So the outline is probably true but the embellishments are pure fiction, again from anonymous sources.


    • A2 says:

      I was incorrect. The original source was the London Times on 4 June, then picked up by Reuters then embellished by Politico. The scope was limited.

      Liked by 3 people

    • The Devilbat says:

      As an expat from London, I recognize the term, “Bollocks” as a common expression from the UK. For our American readers, bollocks is British slang for tesacles. It is used primarily as an expression that something is false, as in, “its all bollocks.” Sorry to be so crude but I figured that my fellow treepers would want to understand the expression that was used.


      • Dutchman says:

        Testicles, cajones, balls, those things theresa may told macron DJT’s are the size of bowling balls (I’ve seen the picture),…and yeah, means bolderdash, poppycock, horse manure, bullshirt.

        London Times to Rueters to Politico? With a provenance like that, well it just MUST be accurate, right? /s

        But, we CAN glean some useful information, without the spin. Spent 16 hours over 2 days; thats an awful lot of “I don’t recall”.

        As a british citisen, in serious legal jeopardy under U.S. laws, he was under no obligation to talk to the I.G. While the I.G. CAN interview non U.S. Government employees, its rare, and a foriegn national even rarer.

        What pressure was brought to bear, to set up these interviews?

        I am not concerned about the spin, based on previous history, when they spin like this usually means the opposite.
        Perhaps he sang like a canary.

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  6. Atpooka says:

    Any new photos or any video of christopher steele anywhere?


  7. JonB3 says:

    I’ve been saying right along ~ Horowitz was appointed by Obama … Inept and corrupt Sessions left him there, and appointed Huber to do Nothing !

    What’s Bondo Bob gonna do now ?

    Liked by 1 person

  8. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Joe diGenova warned a few weeks ago to not expect anything from the IG report. He said to focus on Barr and Durham in getting results. Also, I don’t trust anything that comes from the N. Y. Slimes, Politico, WP, the London Times, etc., especially when they have no names to their so-called sources.

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  9. sundance says:

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    • Carrie says:

      Wow, seems like Strozk was angry he didn’t get to “manage” the release of the Steele dossier and have full control over it. If he withheld that information he should be criminally liable for obstructing the investigation (we already know he was up to eyeballs in helping to assist the phony dossier, the ensuing investigation and wiretaps).


    • Jim Comey is a weasel_Doug says:

      But Gaeta met Steele in early July in Rome.


      • Bill says:

        Posts like these need to remind people to stay FOCUSED. We shouldn’t get distracted on the middle of the investigation. Maybe by the middle they were “technically” operating within the fake a$$ rules they have in the Bureau. But we MUST remember, they can in no way shape or form point to a moment in time/incident that was actually worthy of opening a criminal investigation on the opposition candidate in a a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The precedent this will set means the Trump DOJ can look into Kamal Harris if she gets the nod by any means necessary simply because she was raised in Canada. Just say, “Hey, she made a phone call to a non American number and since she was raised in Canada we had reason to believe this person may be a spy.”

        Back to my point. There is NOTHING they can point to that would give them the right to spy on a presidential campaign. NOTHING.

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        • Dutchman says:

          To your point, Bill.
          The plea deal for Epstien, do let him basically walk on multiple counts of child molesting was SUPPOSEDLY done because it was EARLY in the run up to the 2008 POTUS election, and they didn’t want to get involved in a “Political” prosecution so close to the election.

          (This from an Earlier Sundance post of an interview with a reporter who has covered epstien fir years)

          Si, in 2008 they let this perv walk, cause he was ASSOCIATED with the Clintins, and they didn’t want to APPEAR to be engaging in a ‘political’ prosecution.

          But, in 2016 they don’t have ANY problem, opening an investigation with no predicate, leaking about the investigation to the press, using bogus manufactured evidence, etc.

          So, WHAT happened to this desire not to ‘get involved in investigations that are political’?

          THIS may be the biggest ‘tie in’between Epstien and ‘Trump’, and crossfire hurricane.

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    • BitterC says:

      They’ve been parsing words. They didn’t get the dossier until the fall, but they were getting steele s pieces starting in July


  10. Carrie says:

    I was thinking for a long time now that a good start to opening this fetid can of worms is declassification. The scope memos and the Strozk/Page texts would be a great start without jeopardizing any supposed current investigations into malfeasance. It would restore some faith amongst us. At least it would for me.


    • Bill says:

      If they released the real texts, sure. At this point I don’t trust a damn thing these people show me or tell me. It’s always “You’re not seeing what you’re actually seeing.” Stop telling me not to see what I’m clearly seeing.


  11. icthematrix says:

    The IG report was never going to do anything of significant substance to assist truth or hold people accountable. His reports are garbage….hardly worth the time. They are truly the byproduct of the swamp. Wrist slaps at worst, with confounding language meant to obfuscate the facts. Horowitz is a bureaucratic puss.

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    • 2020liberty2020 says:

      So horowitz will delay with 11th hour interviews to allow the false narrative to continue. Nooses for them a all.


    • That’s how I feel. Nothing will come of his whitewashed report except a few new training courses on how not to get caught being a sleaze bag. I get the OIG reports regularly and there is so much corruption and sleaze going on in the FBI and DEA. Yuck….slimes really work there.

      I am starting to lose faith in Barr also. And is Durham just another Huber? And why would Barr want to recuse himself in the first place, and why is he not declassifying all the stuff POTUS has handed over to him, and why is he waiting for OIG report, nothing to do with him, delay delay….I am going to be so furious if nothing happens and all of these sleazy criminals get away with sedition.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Yeah, of coarse.
      After all we didn’t get ANY useful information, to further our understanding, from the lovers text.
      The FBI system for preserving such texts had an unaccountable glitch, so unrecoverable. 3 different IT teams told Horowitz “can’t get them, from the phones, sorry”!

      But, PUTZ that he is, SWAMP CREATURE that he is, he wastes government time and resources, and calls in a FORTH IT team, from military, that recovers the text.

      “POTUS wants to know everything”
      “Insurance plan when your 40”
      “Walmart, SMELL the Trumpers”
      Etc. Yeah, that Horowitz, he’s really useless!

      The head of a department, (AG) that doesn’t want sunlight, can throw shade on an IG investigation, thats what Rosie did.
      An AG who WANTS sunlight, to clean up an agency, can use an IG as a useful tool to that end. Horowitz is willing to bring the sunlight, its all on BARR.

      In the meantime, I wish people who were disappointed because they had unrealistic expectations and understanding of what an IG does and is, would stop and think where we would be without those ‘lovers text’, which Horowitz could have EASILY taken “No” for an answer, the first, second or even THIRD FRICKIN TIME, and nobody could have faulted him for it, and cut him a little slack.

      Its NOT about Horowitz; its about BARR. Is BARR a “cleaner”, or a “Housecleaner”, that is the question.

      And how the summary and conclusion are written, in the next IG report, will tell us much about Barr.

      If its schitzophrenic, again with little resemblance to the,’body’ of the report, and all the juicy parts in a classified appendix, than Barr is Rosie, 2.0.

      If not, well than we got us a ball game.

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  12. teaforall says:

    Remember…Trump said that when all is released, the American People will be shocked who was involved. President Trump is a very patient man, look at his business practice and The Art of the Deal. He knows how to make a business deal. Whether it’s politically or domestically . President Trump has this, no doubt in my mind.
    We just need to stay on the Trump Train….all the way

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  13. 2020liberty2020 says:

    And barr will do nothing and Congress will falter. Civil war by the people is their goal and they r moving mountains to make it happen. Disaster is when it happens……be careful what u ask swamp, we know u now and we r many.


  14. 2020liberty2020 says:

    And barr will do nothing and Congress will falter. Civil war by the people is their goal and they r moving mountains to make it happen. Disaster is when it happens……be careful what u ask swamp, we know u now and we r many.


  15. 2020liberty2020 says:

    And barr will do nothing and Congress will falter. Civil war by the people is their goal and they r moving mountains to make it happen. Disaster is when it happens……be careful what u ask swamp, we know u now and we r many.


  16. warspite2 says:

    An OIG, where investigations against the big fish go to die. Notorious for spearing low level and maybe a few mid-level folks, the SES sorts walking. Or maybe negotiating Kalkines Warnings to gain immunity on criminal charges. “The Investigation has suggested evidence of considerable irregularities but the OIG is unable to reach a final determination at this time due to _______”.

    There is only one path. Barr would need a close knit team, an absence of leaks, and a commitment to use the IG. Meaning Barr needs to play along with Horowitz as the real team actually nails down criminal indictments. If Barr trusts Horowitz you can count on a deep state victory.


    • The IG merely collects and analyzes evidence and testimony and issues a report that is sometimes meaningless. The AG decides whether or not to pursue any action based upon whats in the IG report and other info gathered by the DOJ. Or at least that’s how I think it goes!


      • Tl Howard says:

        It appears all the IG really does is write down testimony. Bull shit, Hororwitz.


      • Tl Howard says:

        So I thought last time, but Horowitz concluded that some FBI people were biased BUT THAT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF INTENT TO HARM OR FRAME. How the hell does he/they get to judge INTENT?


  17. Another Scott says:

    “the FBI acted properly in 2016” that’s the key phrase of the entire article for her. That’s what “the club” will hammer home every chance they get. All their credibility depends on people believing that otherwise they are exposed as the bad guys they are. And this was the chance for them to get out ahead of the narrative regardless of what the OIG puts out. They beat Barr to the punch this time or maybe Barr has stopped fighting after ruining their Mueller Report narrative.


    • mr.piddles says:

      I just read the whole thing. It’s pretty trashy… lots of implication and innuendo and glossing over of the facts etc. etc. Too much spin for my liking. Fodder for the Brainwashed, I suppose.

      One thing that stands out:

      “But the extensive interview with Steele, and the investigators’ sense that he offered new and important information, may dampen expectations among the president’s allies who’ve claimed that Steele’s sensational dossier was used improperly by the bureau to “spy” on the campaign.”

      So did Steele lie to the IG? Did he just make s-word up? If this was “new and important” information, hasn’t it come to light at any point over the past 2 1/2 years… why wasn’t it some significant portion of the Weissman Dossier? If it’s so “important”, why was Steele so reluctant to talk to Horowitz and Durham to begin with… and why is he refusing to talk to Durham still? You’d think he’d be jumping up and down to talk to Horowitz, Durham, etc. Unless he’s just pulling more s-word out of his MI6 Ass.

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  18. California Joe says:

    Horowitz’s office is very capable of conducting a criminal investigation so whatever nonsense he’s doing now is simply because he’s a typical Democrat, an Obama appointee and an empty suit.

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  19. namberak says:

    “… it would appear they feel remarkably confident the investigation by IG Horowitz is nothing to fear.” A good bet, I’m sorry to say.


  20. dammit_janet says:

    I think IG Horowitz’s report will be thorough, fact based, evidence based, testimony based and by the book with every t crossed and every i dotted. It will be everything the Mueller Report should have been, but wasn’t. Regardless of his past reports during the Mueller blockade he is now unencumbered and he is also aware that declassification is coming on the heels of his report. Don’t you think knowing the public will receive the hard facts for themselves would lead the average person to do them justice? Maybe even give a person who might be hesitating on whether or not to be forthcoming that extra push needed? I may be surprised to find out otherwise, but thats my take. We’ll know soon enough.

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  21. Pat Childs says:

    Horowitz is a fraud. Another Mueller. His only purpose is to cover up serious crime and corruption and delay investigations into the corruption of the FBI/DOJ criminal cabal. The Feds have used similar techniques for years to hide crimes by their favored criminals. Mueller was an expert at it. Horowitz will come up with pablum that will do nothing but confuse the issue and cloud testimony. He has managed to stymie Barr for 4 months, he will likely do so so for 4 more. Mccabe walks free with millions to his name. Everyone else is employed by law firms that are part of the corruption cycle. Not a single attorney has even been disbarred.


    • Jerry Joe says:

      A couple of years ago right here, expectations had been raised; the Horowitz’ OIG was batting cleanup with bases loaded. Though the crowd was aroar, all he did was hit a hanging curve deep into foul territory (McCabe referral) before striking out, looking. Even his stare at the umpire couldn’t hide his embarrassment over the slow fastball right down the middle as tipped off by the catcher.

      Truth be had, the OIG is an overpaid, long-in-the-tooth agency used as a deflection to pawn menial tasks when a few legitimate public outcries can’t be easily swept under the astroturf. Where it might be very good at writing up a discipline record for some errant mid-level beaurocrat or recommending termination of some low level, private contractor with a licensing issue, it sits on the bench everyday, waiting for instruction. Sounds like an important title and department; it isn’t. Nothing more than a sounding board for some grandstanding politicians.

      I read his first report and learned nothing new. Everything he reported could have been found within the pages of this very site. At best, he may have provided official authentication to some things we were not privy. At worst, he wasted precious time showing off the intended emptiness the office maintains over REAL corruption. Several here have posted, quite accurately in retrospect, that this is the office where things go to die a slow death….


  22. mr.piddles says:

    Rudy just did a spot on Hannity. He’s running a little hot this evening. Holy shmoley. This will be a Must See Youtube for the Presidential Thread…


  23. Tl Howard says:

    People suddenly deciding to talk is planned. They’ve had forever, the conspirators, including Steele, to come up with a semi-plausible explanation.

    I’ll be ready and willing to go with the rest of you into the streets if Horowitz doesn’t see through this and expose it.


  24. If OIG Michael Horowitz is in charge, you can rest assured that the collective arses of the Spygate Conspirators are 100% safe.


  25. Bogeyfree says:

    For those who still think the DOJ / OIG will prosecute any of their own within any of the 3 letter agencies.



    These are ordinary law-breakers, not agents of a coup acting politically.

    John Solomon describes 4 cases of non-prosecution:

    One was caught red-handed engaged in nepotism.
    Another, a lawyer no less, admitted to shoplifting at a Marine barracks store.
    A third leaked sealed court information to the news media.
    And a fourth engaged in fraud by turning a government garage into a personal repair shop.

    Four cases, all solved in the past month, with suspects who cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars and significant breaches of public trust.

    But these weren’t your everyday perps.

    All were U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) employees who are supposed to catch other criminals while working for the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and U.S. attorneys’ offices.

    Instead, they broke the law or violated the rules.

    And all managed to escape prosecution, despite their proven transgressions.

    When the law enforcers break the law with impunity, we have a tyranny. Plain and simple.

    This is why many Americans have lost faith in our DOJ and justice system. A clear double standard exists IMO for those within the DOJ/FBI and everyday Americans outside the DOJ/FBI.

    Wake up Mr. Barr, Americans are tied of this never ending BS!

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  26. Elle says:

    Prince Andrew is up to his eyeballs with Epstein and the fact that there noise on the British side of the pond makes me think that deals are being made. Andrew will not go down over this. On the bright side the Fave Clintons already have.

    Trump strikes me as someone who would prefer to remove the corrupt from their positions of power and once they are neutered he doesn’t care what happens to them. Likewise, he would be happy to use available blackmail as leverage to get things done. I also suspect there may be a bit of mutually assured destruction going on – though I don’t think for a minute that Trump is a pedophile rapist like the others.

    Trump can only do so much and he’s doing a lot We were never going to get Obama or Hillary, we all knew that. Look at the charts and see all of the incompetent sycophants who have been replaced at the tippy top and thank God. Then imagine if Hillary had the reins of power and then get down on your knees.

    I log in everyday in hopes of headlines noting Obama and the Clintons flew to countries with non-extradition agreements and footage of early morning raids rounding up all the treasonous bastards. What can I say? I’m an optimist. That said, I can handle it if Trump gets results and moves us forward. You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes…

    It’s too soon for despair. The truth is out there and it will never go away. God will exact justice in his own time.

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    • Mariainohio says:

      I honestly believe that President Trump absolutely cannot go after everyone for everything. He can’t. Remember all that crap about Krystallnocht? They know it is coming ant they will call it a purge and President Trump will , again, be labeled a dictator. He needs to be smart on this. I , too, am growing impatient but I understand why it must be this way.


  27. Bogeyfree says:

    Here are a couple more recent published examples IMO of taking care of our own or as they say “declined to prosecute” examples coming from our DOJ/IG who are “sworn to uphold the Constitution and our laws.



    And now we have had 3.5 years of a planned coup to frame and take down a sitting President along with submitting knowingly false information to a FISA court and leaking information to the media and NOT ONE indictment anywhere!!!!

    So IMO the facts and stats strongly suggests they will all walk, Scott free!

    A fricking coup against a sitting President and it’s not enough to prosecute ANYONE?

    Can you tell I’m a little frustrated?

    Liked by 1 person

    • FishtheDish says:

      Yep – I am frustrated also. There is sooo much information out there it is crazy to think that they will try to get away with the hoodwink.


  28. Shyster says:

    Horowitz, like many who thrive in the swamp is an empty suit looking to cover his own ass. He had McCabe dead to right lying so he couldn’t believably script a non misconduct finding. As to the Clinton email investigation his swampiness reigned supreme. Since he was a long time former prosecutor, he was well aware that in proving most crimes that require a showing of intent (like murder, theft, etc…) a prosecutor doesn’t have so called “direct” evidence, like a video of the murder, but rather must prove the murder circumstantially by showing motive, opportunity and the like. Just like most murders deny they did it, the prosecutor still proves the case circumstantially. With Strock, Page, Comey and the others, he had overwhelming circumstantial evidence of a rigged investigation and misconduct, but because they in essence said, like a murder, “I didn’t do it or my bias didn’t effect my work or the investigation”, he basically took their word for it and published a report saying he couldn’t say the investigation was rigged or that the agents themselves obstructed Justice. It was a worthless waste of time given his non-finding finding. Given his track record and proclivity to view devastating evidence as insufficient to support a finding of unlawfulness, I think it’s probable that Horowitz will be serving up yet another goose egg in the long line of ugly ducklings we have been forced to dine on!


  29. ATheoK says:

    “The takeaway has irked some U.S. officials interviewed as part of the probe — they argue that it shouldn’t have taken a foreign national to convince the inspector general that the FBI acted properly in 2016.”

    That is more than a little inspecific!

    “The goal was surveillance authority.”

    There nothing “proper” about what the FBI/CIA did to establish surveillance authority in 2016.

    That make Horowitz’s “interview” with Steele a total sham.
    Hopefully, Durham is able to find gold nuggets amongst Horowitz’s crapola.

    Odds are there are pictures of Horowitz and lawyers touring London town.


  30. gsonFIT says:

    You guys recall back to some of the days prior to the Mueller report? When we didn’t know what Special Counsel’s findings might be. One day we were positive the outcome would exonerate PDJT and then the next major depression because a judge ruled against our guys, or a leak looked particularly bad for team Trump. Often times negative Trump news would come on a Friday evening and we had to listen to MSM cackle victorious all weekend.

    Well the Mueller report has been released and there is no conspiracy between Trump and his election team with Russia. The boogeyman is not going to rise up and steal away of great President. But we have a liberal news story about an investigation into a FISA warrant and we all think the world is coming to an end. Keep in mind we have witnessed this from a completely different perspective than the rest of the world thanks to SunDance

    What i remember learning from the CTH is along the lines of the following:

    There was no dossier until September because this information was collected and written by Strzok and crew as part of John Brennan’s Fusion Cell/working group. It didn’t become a dossier till Brennan and Strzok laundered the intel through Steele and he shopped it to the media in Fall 2016.

    Of course Steele can be credible because he didn’t know he was regurgitating manufactured information. Also no American intel was sited to start this investigation because the criminal Americans that created it didn’t want American fingerprints near it (read Brennan)READ

    Stay positive tree folks! Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Dems are so hungry for any small victory. They are trying to create positive momentum going into Mueller’s testimony next week. Dont forget we are on the right side of this craziness


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  31. Quint says:

    Horowitz can’t prosecute.
    That’s up to Barr.
    Who will win, Barr or his Trump hating DoJ minions?
    Money’s on the minions.

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  32. Maybe Flynn should have asked for the ICIG to investigate his FARA problems instead of Mueller. After all, the DOJ agreed w/Steele’s request for Horowitz not Durham.


  33. Elle says:

    I love it when a good plot comes together. The unused Guantanamo EO’s, the thousands of sealed indictments. Is the Big Ugly about to happen? Flynn’s recent move seems scripted as a head fake that was thrust on the un-loyal opposition at the very last moment. I can’t help but wonder if the Epstein cover up in Florida was so that those who resigned/cooperated could be wrapped into one big, “oh sorry, oops, our bad.” SDNY seems to be additional wrangling on this front. Pelosi’s daughter saying it will bring down some “favs” seems to be more of a head’s up than a blunder. Given that priceless hostage video of Pelosi and Schumer after they first with Barr, I suspect a spirit of cooperation on multiple issues was fostered. Maybe, and this is probably wishful thinking on my part, but maybe this SDNY case is the final wrangling where they determine who will be the Epstein scapegoats. As for me, I still see the Clinton’s flying off to a country with an extradition agreement.
    Hillary has a very big black book and I’m sure she hates Obama and all of the other incompetents who failed her.

    A girl can dream, no?


    • Elle says:

      so I should have posted this on the Flynn thread up today, but it occurs to me that perhaps it belongs here. Prince Andrew was apparently a Epstein pal and it would be beneficial to both countries to keep him out of this limelight. Trump visits the queen, Steele is interviewed and Epstein blackmail resurfaces. hmmmm maybe I’m trying too hard.


  34. Elle says:

    withOUT an extradition agreement.


  35. FishtheDish says:

    So…what ever happened to the Devin Nunes (and others) criminal referrals – just disappear into the black hole of corruption???


  36. Mr e-man says:

    Few people trust Horowitz to actually do a good job exposing malfeasance and criminal activity at the DOJ/FBI. He did a whitewash in the last one. His intent seemed to be to COVER UP any implications of criminal activity and he did so effectively by writing an executive summary that contradicted his entire report. Easy Peasy.

    All the bad actors in this play are relying on the same excuse. That they had lots of reasons to investigate Trump and were justified in doing so. Horowtiz’s task by the swamp is to substantiate that claim. He knows how to do it. Write a watered down report, classify a lot of material so it can’t be in the report, and then write a summary saying that while there were some irregularities and people were fired/demoted for them, that there was no overall ill intent relating to a coup or illegal activity to affect the 2016 election.

    The swamp will take that to the bank and cash it in. We will be in the same boat, waiting for accountability, realizing Horowitz will see both sides and report favorably for the swamp, and waiting for Durham to be the guy that blows it all open. Meanwhile the 2020 election gets closer and closer.


  37. Midnite says:

    Ok, I’m going to take a different slant here so bear with me.
    “The interview was contentious at first, the sources added, but investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising. The takeaway has irked some U.S. officials interviewed as part of the probe — they argue that it shouldn’t have taken a foreign national to convince the inspector general that the FBI acted properly in 2016. Steele’s American lawyer was present for the conversation. “.

    Finding Steele’s testimony to them credible and even surprising isn’t the same as saying his “dossier” was credible. What would you ask Steele? Where did you get your information? Answer: Sergei Millian…surprise! Did you tell Kavalek this was political oppo research? Answer: Yes…credible! You can spin anything to say what you want it to say and I’m guessing that’s what we’re seeing here.

    Talking to Steele is necessary if we’re going to see indictments of those in the FBI and CIA who took this bogus information, knowing full well it was completely political and false and ran with it any way in order to get Trump. Devin Nunes has already made it clear that the FBI made NO effort to verify the information they received from Steele. Depending on what questions the OIG asked Steele it could be the final nail in the coffin for McCabe, Comey, Brennan, et al and the indictments that could follow. All Steele has to do is confirm that he made those statements and revelations at the behest of the DNC and Clinton campaign and Durham is off and running.

    There’s no way that Steele’s testimony to the OIG equivocates into a properly predicated investigation into Trump or that the FBI acted properly…IF he told them the truth it can only lead one to the inescapable conclusion of the very opposite.

    As the article states Steele and his attorney Adam Waldman are present. I’ll go along with that and presume that Waldman was the reason Steele agreed to talk to the OIG rather than Durham..he knows Horowitz has no jurisdiction over Steele and no prosecutorial powers, so his client is safe.


  38. Rynn69 says:

    There are more silent Trump supporters than they can imagine and it is growing every day. America WANTS JUSTICE SOON.


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