AG William Barr Modifies Epstein Case Recusal Position – Is NOT Recused from SDNY Prosecution Oversight…

Yesterday AG Bill Barr affirmed he was recused from the DOJ prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein. However, according to new media reporting, based on information from the office of U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr, the Attorney General has consulted with DOJ officials and modified his recusal position:

(Tweet Link)

It would appear Bill Barr is recused from aspects surrounding Epstein that connect to the earlier Florida prosecution; and prosecutorial position of the DOJ at the time-frame of the Florida plea agreement (via U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta); however, Bill Barr is not recused from the current SDNY prosecution in 2019 (via U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman).

For the Florida case Barr is recused. For the SDNY case, Barr is not recused.  So AG Barr will have oversight during the SDNY case against Jeffrey Epstein.

This position would reconcile the statement made by AG Barr yesterday:

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312 Responses to AG William Barr Modifies Epstein Case Recusal Position – Is NOT Recused from SDNY Prosecution Oversight…

  1. chuckyschmucky says:

    That collective groan you heard was from the Deep State, the Democrat Party and their pals in the corrupt leftwing media.

    Liked by 67 people

    • 100% YOOPER says:

      Hollypedos starting to try and distance themselves? Lol

      “As Twitchy reported on Monday, Ellen Barkin admitted she had known for years that Jeffrey Epstein’s girlfriend was a sex trafficker, and of course, people wanted to know WHY she never said or did anything to stop it.

      Welp, Ellen tried to find a way to make HERSELF the victim in all of this and defended her tweet … which only made her look even worse.”….

      https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/07/09/but-you-knew-ellen-barkin-defends-herself-after-admitting-she-knew-about-epsteins-gf-and-only-makes-herself-look-worse/

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      • Dutchman says:

        Hey, Ellen. If you wear out that shovel, or break the handle, I’ll gladly give you another! You KEEP DIGGING, thats the important thing. Sooner ot later, your just BOUND to dig yourself out, right?
        LOL, This is going to be schedenfrudeliscious!

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      • HAHAHA. LOL. Idiot Barkin so blinded by Trump Derangement Syndrome, she focuses her FAUX outrage on smearing POTUS… [while clearly disclosing she treated sick sex trafficking admissions as juicy gossip]. Let’s hope DOJ is in touch, grills Barkin as an accomplice / witness. The world sees she’s seriously implicated Ghislaine Maxwell [Barkin: “Epstein’s pimp girlfriend”]. Maxwell as yet not charged, wouldn’t it be something if she makes a deal and spills big time?

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        • flova says:

          Barkin was married to billionaire Ron Perelman from 2000 to 2006. No doubt she knows a lot. But piling on this washed up actress as someone who knew about Epstein’s penchant for minors could be used against anybody in the billionaire’s club and their inner circle, including Pres Trump. Remember, this is a tight knit group.

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          • David A says:

            Except Trump did something ( according to the prosecutor) once he KNEW Epstein was going after underage women, and he never said when he heard about the pedophile island.

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        • Rhoda R says:

          I though Maxwell was given immunity by the FBI during the FL case. Along with that Vickers woman.

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          • Southern Son says:

            She was.
            But that Agreement by the US Attorney (Perez) was recently thrown out by the Court, and Ruled as Unlawful.
            The Victims were not even made Aware of it.
            One thing most are Not Aware of even now, is that AG Jeff Sessions is the one, who Opened the Investigation into Epsteins Illegal Plea Agreement.
            I wouldn’t be suprised, if ‘Ol possum Jeff”s name reemerges in the near future.

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            • Southern Son says:

              Acosta, not Perez.
              My fat finger.
              The Main thing here, is that All of the Coming Indictments, are the product of the Investigations started by AG Jeff Sessions led DOJ.
              He Was Stealth Jeff, but too many in Our Movement believe, everything has to happen on Their Timeline, by Their Storyline.
              There was Never, a Greater more True Patriot, than the Honorable Mr. Sessions.

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      • Bubby says:

        Yooper exactly! Hollywood is accepting of pedophilia that’s why Ellen never reported it to authorities. The sexual assault of young children is considered to be enlightenment by the Hollywood elite types! Pedophilia is rampant in Hollywood and is one of the reasons why they hate President Trump and love Bill Clinton!

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      • kp says:

        100% YOOPER,

        “Hollypedos” LOL! That is F’d up and hysterical at the same time! Wasn’t that a 70’s sitcom, or was it a game show?

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      • Bailey Howe says:

        If Ellen Barkin knew one would assume her ex husband Gabriel Byrne knew, too. They divorced in 1999 ” yet still remain close”(wiki quote)

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    • Gort says:

      The Democratic Party body politic is about to be gutted so that all Americans can see its corrupt entrails.

      Liked by 21 people

    • Fringe Dweller says:

      Whew, I thought it was an earthquake. Thanks for clearing that up.

      Liked by 4 people

    • chojun says:

      This is good – additionally, it has been explained today that Comey’s daughter is merely one of a number of prosecutors on the case and doesn’t have ultimate decision-making capacity. I hope that Barr keeps an eye on this case and makes sure it’s on the up-and-up.

      Liked by 6 people

    • kp says:

      chuckyschmucky,

      I think you meant “a giant sucking sound”. I didn’t even know DC sphincters could suck, I mean, I SHOULD have known, but I didn’t.

      Very apropos today. God bless Ross Perot and his family in their time of mourning.

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    • Aeyrie says:

      Ooooweee Chucky! Watch the cockroaches begin to scramble! It’s about time.

      Liked by 3 people

    • EJS says:

      The biggest question, why now? Want to get people’s attention? The rape and exploitation of children by “elite” sick perverts gets people’s attention. Most Americans don’t care about FISA abuse or Carter Page, who the hell is Misfud anyway? This is the main coarse! This is what wakes the sleeping masses. This is what we have been waiting for! This brings it all down. This has been happening for a while, quietly, behind the scenes. This didn’t just happen out of the blue a few weeks ago. Why now???

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    • Richard Orberson says:

      More left wing crap trying to muddy the water thank you thanks teared up in mainstream media
      I researched the flight records and have a copy of them, Donald trump’s name is not there.

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  2. Liked by 10 people

    • Carrie2 says:

      Pouncer, many of us think that yes it was a phony thing to do but again threaten his son. Needs to be investigated and somehow I think AG Barr who has many good DOJ attorneys to hand is already investigating that and other things and soon we will have a huge explosion. Time to make sure no one can leave America at any border and take away their passports. We don’t even one to not be investigation and punished.

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    • Aeyrie says:

      I think it was, Pouncer. Against the Deep State! What was our dear general the head of? (DIA) Watch what happens next.

      Liked by 1 person

    • WSB says:

      Sarah Carter just reported tonight on Hannity’s show that it seems as though Flynn’s FARA form may have been tampered with, made more complicated, in order to trap him.

      That would really be low…Andy.

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  3. flatlandgoober says:

    Sic ’em. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!

    Liked by 10 people

  4. ElTocaor says:

    I’m grateful for this verification. I have been fearing that his recusal would enable the DOJ to name a “Special Consul” to investigate Trump’s connections with Epstein, which of course would take the next two years and be headlines everyday and everywhere.

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    • CopperTop says:

      Don’t count this out as a ‘considered’ possibility by Barr and POTUS.

      I have a half baked theory that they thought if Comey was put off to ‘relax’ with the last minute filing on releasing the Comey Memo (Archey Defense) and if he had a Daughter in the case while he ‘thought’ Barr was recused…

      He might explain to her over a wire exactly how to bring up obstruction again and get it ‘right’ this time.

      I mean he felt COMPELLED to tweet about how Democrats need to vote to get rid of Trump showing he still likes to publicize his bias.

      I hope the Public Corruption unit got Comey and Comey on a wire tap because the Public Corruption office lines are ALWAYS recorded or something fun like that.

      Remember what he said about his Wife and Daughters being pro hillary?!

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      • ElTocaor says:

        That is very interesting…keeping Comey’s daughter on to ‘tap’ her communique with her father sounds entirely plausible.

        My take on her being on team is opposite, with her on board it keeps him neutralized; that being he won’t interject for the sake of his daughter’s reputation. Her being on board puts him in a tough spot in my estimation. I’m probably entirely wrong but the truth is indeed stranger than fiction. Cheers.

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      • WSB says:

        I was wondering who put the initial statement out…interesting.

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      • cali says:

        @CopperTop: Don’t worry because Comey as FBI director was also serviced by the minors Epstein had to offer. Being blackmailed after raping two very young tweens not by an individual but by another country as a result is hanging over his head to this day.
        You see these two young girls talked afterwards about their experience with Comey and sold the info not knowing they sold it to a foreign government.

        His desperation must be through the roof since the Epstein arrest.

        Neonrevolt had a very nice and detailed write-up.

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    • The Demon Slick says:

      Dems want to hang Epstein on Acosta. Mueller was head of the FBI and Holder was AG. Barr won’t be able to look at who was pushing for a light sentence. Some corrupt lefty will no doubt get to write that narrative.

      Liked by 1 person

      • SharonKinDC says:

        Holder was NOT AG. The deal was in 2008, before Zero was sworn in.

        Liked by 1 person

      • It was the Bush Administration, almost just as bad. Gonzalez was the AG at the time.

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        • CopperTop says:

          Yes Am Mongral. The cover up was for HRC as presumed nominee (what does that sound like). Perhaps when she went to Barry with the tapes she has of him offering to sell the Senate seat to Blago after Iowa trouncing, he said I’ll see your tape and raise you several flights on the Lolita Express now shut up and try to do a mediocre job at Sec. State.

          (Bush must have known McCain couldn’t win so threw in to help the Clintons)

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        • The highly detestable Michael Mukasey was Attorney General in 2008. Mukasey was the AG for the final two years of W’s presidency. Bush was forced to finally get rid of Gonzalez in 2007.

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  5. Mncpo(ret) says:

    Brilliant. I’m so glad that they have totally separated the Fla case and the NY case. The Fla case is done and gone. He will be involved with the current case and he’ll be all over it.

    This NY case has been going on for a long time. This is not new, they just finally arrested him.

    Everybody who was/is lamenting about Comey’s daughter being involved. I, personally, think she was put into place in case Epstein ran into NY problems under a Clinton Presidency. I don’t think she will be involved under a Trump/Barr Administration. She’s, basically, shunted.

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  6. TigerBear says:

    That makes far more sense in my mind. Barr might very well turn out to be a great one. Time will tell. I’m on the fence, but totally hopeful!! 😁

    Liked by 7 people

    • kp says:

      Tiger Bear,

      The fence is one of those little ones that you place at the top of your stairs so Jr. doesn’t accidentally take a tumble…adults can step over that fence easily.

      Barr is the adult in that room!

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    • David A says:

      Tiger, after this TH post I am back on the right side of the fence.

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  7. desperatelyseekingmelania says:

    Has anybody in the whole DOJ given any thought to pulling Comey Jr. off the case? Who with half a functioning brain cell thinks it’s a good idea to let her anywhere near any case that potentially, even just perceptually, involves Clintons or Trumps? IYAM the case is already tainted by this.

    Liked by 5 people

    • lurker2 says:

      As mentioned by others, she’s not in charge of the case. I personally don’t see a problem with it.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Rex70 says:

      desperately…”Comey Jr.”–heh! Funny!

      Yeah–there are all kinds of red flags flying with how this politically ancient–though no less revolting or prosecutable–story has been rolled out and the political and legal table set. It’s like the Left–of which Epstein is most certainly a creature–has all its calulations of who’s expendable in this sure-to-be bloodbath and all of its players (e.g. Comey, Jr.) in place. IMO, paedos should be given a choice between ending things by their own hand or castration–but from a political standpoint, this case against this man at this time seems politically too-good-to-be-true for it not to be yet another Dem attempt to destroy Trump (via innuendo; guilt by association and Alex Acosta) and/or take out any other Republican by the same means (innuendo) or as part of the sweep (deservedly).

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  8. Julia Adams says:

    The naysayers, doomsayers and the collective negative thinking people who lost it last night on this site owe AG Barr an apology.

    Liked by 11 people

    • YvonneMarie says:

      Hand ringers. 🤨

      Liked by 1 person

    • Bogeyfree says:

      Let me be the first to apologize to Mr. Barr.

      Now has Mr. Durham interviewed Mr. Mueller yet? After all if he can testify before Congress, surely he can answer a few questions from Mr. Durham.

      Sure seems like a very obvious and necessary step for this “review”

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    • sundance says:

      Horsepucky. Quite possibly the public outrage caused Bill Barr to modify his position.

      Holding them ALL accountable is thee prudent course. No-one should be trusting anything.

      Liked by 34 people

      • Troublemaker10 says:

        I had not thought about that (Barr modified).

        I am just glad because when I heard Barr recused I had a sick feeling of another muh Russia type investigation with another recused AG to keep it from running amuck.

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      • Phil aka Felipe says:

        “No-one should be trusting anything.”

        Great advice, Sundance.

        Even the best of us do not realize what each of us is capable.

        The human heart is “deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9)

        That’s why I say, “I don’t trust anyone, except the LORD.” (I don’t even trust ME)

        “It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
        It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.” (Psalm 118:8-9)

        Man can and will go back on his promises. The LORD will never will, on that you can trust.

        Liked by 5 people

      • DJSnyder says:

        We HAVE to hold their feet to the fire! Remember what Ronald Reagan once said: “If you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.”

        Liked by 6 people

      • Guyski says:

        Like the guy on Pawn Stars said: ‘its not that I don’t trust you, I don’t trust anybody.’

        Liked by 8 people

      • BobBoxBody says:

        I agree. If Barr had mis-spoken or been taken out of context he would have said so. Instead he tells us that he has to consult with “ethics” people about the matter…I imagine it was actually Trump calling him up and telling him he had better un-recuse himself or else he would be recused from being AG.

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      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        Sundance,

        Agreed……and to me this “adjustment” seems like:

        “Yeah…..OK……”I won’t recuse” ……”wishy…..washy”

        Still not sold on Barr…….

        He has done “Nothing” of any significance ….

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      • lolli says:

        👍Sundance
        Thank you.
        “No one should be trusting anything”

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      • DeWalt says:

        Verification they are paying attention to public sentiment. Bad optics from the start.

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        • It always comes down to “Trust BUT Verify” scenario…Barr is going to HAVE to put the boys in the sack and THEY SHOULD BE VERY BIG ONES…Too me, once this starts, the WHOLE enchilada will be about “WHO IS NEXT”!!! All of this circumspect evidence is all there is…UNTIL SOMETHING changes the course of the outcome…AND that is what we are witnessing…Gunny, I’m have run, you can have beer…Salud’!!!!

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        • Aeyrie says:

          If there were any weak sisters testing to see if we were paying attention I think they got their answer loud and clear. Make them all feel the heat! Good advice from Pres. Reagan. Lol, we should take it…and run over them with it. That’s how we will help our PDJT drain the swamp. Amen.

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      • Julia Adams says:

        In general, I agree with your statement. But, as it relates to AG Barr and his modifying his position on his recusal in the Epstein matter, I disagree with you.

        In all likelihood, he was ill-advised by staff to recuse and when the outcry did come, he took notice, and sought a clarification from the ethics and compliance section. And that is the outcome, he is recused on FL; not recused from the NY case. So he did the right thing. Look on the bright side. Why can’t you give the situation and the man a break?

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      • Arrest Soros says:

        It should be noted that there are 2 investigations taking place.
        First is the investigation of the plea deal in the earlier Florida case. Barr is recused from this.
        Second is a whole new investigation into pedo activity over and above the activity Epstein was prosecuted for in Florida. Barr is not recused from this.

        If anyone is going to skate, it’s not Epstein (or his cohorts). The sweetheart deal making investigators will be the ones to skate (with the possible exception of Acosta because…….well because Trump right?)

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      • WSB says:

        Does this mean that the same criminals are still in the ethics department? Would this hiccup not be a great time for some clearing out of the weeds?

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    • El Torito says:

      Happens every time Sundance puts up a title like that. Total dog whistle to the crowd with zero spine.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      With all die respect, I disagree. That video could be interpreted 2 ways: 1. Recusal, and without clarification that means recusal from the CURRENT lawsuit as one can’t recuse feom a case that has been adjudicated 10+ years ago, or 2. Somewhat of a bifurcated re usal, ie not overview of the former lawsuit but overview of the CURRENT lawsuit.

      AG Barr is a high-powered mega-lawfirm lawyer, not to mention a 2-time AG. He is a lawyer of minute detail, great wordsmithing (“spy”). His clarification today SHOULD HAVE been clearly stated yesterday. No one would have guesed he was excuding a bifurcated review based on yesterday’s explanation. That type of review is NOT the norm protocol.

      So please don’t say anyone owes an apology. AG Barr needs to get his act together to begin with. We can’t afford screw ups, unless there was some planned strategy involved, which I doubt. Fortunately he immediately corrected the error. Probably got a call from the principal. I’m rooting for Barr, but he and our President can’t afford any screw ups from an AG.

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    • Yeh, immediate reactions tend to be based on emotion and pre-conceived opinions. In Trump World, that’s often a path to misreading the situation. Best to give it at least a couple news cycles to absorb context, evaluate the possibility of misdirection [Ref: Art ofWar].

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    • Nonsense!! Battered conservative syndrome aside, trusting our politicians, attorneys, judges, teachers, professors etc. Is exactly why we are in the mess in which we find ourselves.

      When they all just quit feeding us bull and do the right thing I will say the country is moving in the right direction…. Thank them.

      Apologize for wanting and expecting them to do the RIGHT thing, never.

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    • GB Bari says:

      In my concerned comment about the AG yesterday I advocated withholding harsh judgement on Barr – precisely because there was and still is a lot outstanding that can go either way. Today’s announcement is more consistent with the man that many of us all thought he was / is – more precise about the law and not overtly political.

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      • 1. I’m ALL about holding the feet of ANYONE that is supposed to be doing the right thing by us, whether it be justice or representation, neither of either we see much of or know much about anymore.

        B. Enough of the handwringing, pearl-clutching & concern trolling Eeyore syndrome. Negative, negative, negative. That is enough to drive anyone crazy, and it’s a serious sign of weakness.

        4. That is all. 😀

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  9. Elric VIII says:

    All of this Recusal/Non-Recusal talk is enough to give a person whiplash. That being said, this case in particular is going to need a steady hand on the helm. Also, it seems that a lot of seemingly unconnected incidents are growing increasingly connected.

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    • justlizzyp says:

      Progressives I know were convinced that Barr should recuse because his father hired Epstein to teach at the school he was headmastered…in 1973. These are, oddly enough, the same progressives who did not see any ethical conflicts with anyone involved in the Clinton investigation, did not believe Kagan had any reason to recuse herself from deciding on Obamacare, and didn’t care one bit about the Mueller teams string of conflicts.

      So this is only going to cloud the issue and be used as the excuse for why Trump wasn’t prosecuted for his connections to Epstein. Facts be damned.

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      • meow4me2 says:

        Justlizzy, people will believe what they want to believe. The cognitive dissonance for some would be too great. They’ll twist the facts to their version of reality just to be comfortable.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        The end result is that there is public discussion, comparison and attention to details of the “conflict recusal” issue. Which is not good for mewler, kagan, or the FBI. From that perspective, perhaps this was planned. It is the only to get issue coverage from the “media” – let the dems be outraged and take their positions, then let people compare for consistency. Here, there are 2 rounds of emotionally-excited comparisons.

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  10. I was just confused about why he would recluse himself in the first place. Made no sense. Glad he came to his senses. Wonder if POTUS called him.

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    • desperatelyseekingmelania says:

      Because Epstein used to work for his dad?

      of all the gin joints in all the world

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      • rashomon says:

        “of all the gin joints in all the world”

        Apparently, there aren’t that many gin joints. These guys (gender neutral) seem to be tumbling over each other like a bevy of blind puppies seeking their mom. You can’t make this up! ROFL doesn’t being to describe this Marx Bros. theatrics.

        Thank you, God When the walls started caving, we have s person with a center, a focus, experience and a sense of humor. Can you imagine? The endless fallout of the Dulles Boyz Inc.

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    • I believe VSG/ESG made call to him just make sure no other Sessions in time of WAR !!!!!!!!

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  11. C says:

    WOOOO boy please be real. Was that a head fake? Pump faked em? Seems they’re going in. I HOPE this isn’t theater. Please God be real.

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  12. FL_GUY says:

    I really had a good chuckle when I read AG Barr was back on the NY Epstein case.

    It reminded me of the Peanuts character Lucy and the football. Barr puts down the football (recusal) while clearly stating it’s because he once worked for a FL firm that had dealings with Epstein. Charley Brown is thrilled (D-Rats gonna kick the rap). Then, after making the FL connection major public knowledge, Barr runs this concern through the DOJ ethics department who affirm that he does NOT have to recuse from the NY Epstein case, only FL. Charley (media-rats and D-Rats), who already started running to kick, ends up on his ass after he tries to kick the football which is now GONE!.

    It’s really funny when you put all the pieces of the puzzle together. Master Troll by AG Barr, IMHO It sure had a lot of Debbie Downers going around here in the comments.

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  13. MaineCoon says:

    He must have been called to the principal’s office…..because this clarification should have been clearer stated to begin with. Someone screwed up. Probably the same ones that gave Sessions advice….yah, he got a call from the principal. It really seems like the Boss has to singlehandedly do eveything. AG Barr is a man of minute details. Screw up here.

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    • lurker2 says:

      I wouldn’t equate Barr and Sessions. Maybe Barr didn’t feel he needed to be involved, maybe he originally thought recusal was the right thing to do, and then he changed his mind. I wouldn’t read anything nefarious into that.

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      • MaineCoon says:

        I’m not. I’m equating the Office of ??? That both got the recusal advise from. Both Barr and Sessions reference it in their confirmation hearings. I posts Barr’s clip several times. The problem with that Office is R’s all recuse or are put to the sideline for 9 mos like Nunez was and Ds get a pass. That’s what I’m referring to. That pattern smells.

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      • TPW says:

        If Barr was worth a hoot why would he not see the inherent danger for President Trump ……with these lying scum. Even the appearance of another AG recusal in an important case looks BAD because of the Sessions recusal fiasco.

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  14. SharonKinDC says:

    I’m not certain he was ever recused from the SDNY case. Seems like what he said yesterday indicated he was speaking re the FL case.

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    • rayvandune says:

      Trump’s running backs need to tuck the ball in tighter and cover it with two hands to avoid so many fumbles. Turnovers hurt badly, and let the fans down.

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      • c says:

        I think this was a pump fake. They’re playing the establishment’s game now but they’re moving much faster than them.

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      • Arrest Soros says:

        Turnovers? Do you mean like when “The Fans” jump to conclusions without all the facts and start piling on Barr?
        That’s not Barr’s fault nor a turnover. That’s trigger-happy fans jumping to conclusions.
        They’re the same people here at CTH who pile on commenters with accusations of “troll” etc at the drop of a hat.

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    • jbowen82 says:

      That’s correct. He had to recuse from the Florida civil case against the DOJ (which is the FOIA lawsuit to unseal the records, not the criminal case, that case was closed many years ago) because another lawyer at the law firm he used to work for was representing Epstein in intervening, also trying to keep the records sealed. By the way, that other lawyer? Ken Starr.

      Barr has never been recused from the criminal prosecution of Epstein.

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      • ParteaGirl says:

        I’ve not been impressed with Ken Starr for a while now. He was a lousy Baylor president and didn’t last long, thankfully. He gave a commencement speech that equated migrants to angels. Blech!

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      • lurker2 says:

        Thanks for your comment. You’re write. It was a different issue. Here’s what the NY Post says:

        A Justice official told the Associated Press on condition of anonymity that Barr is still recused from any review of a 2008 plea deal that allowed Epstein to avoid federal charges in Florida.

        “I am recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm I subsequently joined for a period of time,” Barr told reporters in South Carolina on Monday.

        That’s because Barr’s former law firm, Kirkland & Ellis, had previously represented the convicted sex offender. The deal Epstein secretly made allowed him to avoid federal prosecution for nearly identical allegations.

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        • Rhoda R says:

          True, but that doesn’t mean that his AAG or someone else can’t look into that plea deal and at least identify who authorized it.

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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      Bet Ol’ Barr had this planned all along.

      He was just “funning” them like a possum playing dead.

      Then…..SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!!! Possum Teeth 2 inches deep into the Deep State’s back…. :X

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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      Or Barr might have just been testing the waters……….

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  15. Cocoon says:

    Whatever Barr thought he was walking into, it appears he has realized all things require his supervision. No one can be trusted to do the right thing.
    Any chance to weaken Trump or his Administration, will be choreographed by those who have influence.
    This immediate proffer of 5 yrs jail time to name names, cannot be accepted without knowing more.
    SDNY cannot be trusted to do the right thing. As Dershowitz has stated, these criminals can be enticed to compose rather than sing.

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    • Dutchman says:

      I thought it was a Judge, Ellis who said that, but Dersh may have said it, too.

      Seems to me this is different than Eric Prince saying a guy in NYPD told him there was pedo/clinton stuff on weiners laptop.
      That it is clearly spelled out in official court filings, what they found in epstiens safe, leads me to thing there are people damned and detirmined its gonna come out, THIS time.

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      • Phil Free says:

        Yeah, what they found in Epstein’s safe is suggestively the blackmail material he had, on who knows who?! Along with all of the other stuff? Whew —

        I think it -extremely- safe to say that Epstein will be behind bars for the rest of his life.

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        • Phil Free says:

          ** Sorry for posting this twice — after my first post, it looked like this disappeared — I couldn’t find it, and I thought it had gone into the “bin”. Thought maybe one of the words from my post had caused it to go into the “bin” ….. so I re-posted below, to be safe. Sorry!

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    • George 1 says:

      I would make a large bet that Epstein will die in prison. He is never getting out. The DOJ will get a good laugh out of his 5 year offer. No. The best they will offer Epstein is a prison life that is somewhat more comfortable that what he could be looking at.

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      • Sofa King says:

        Someone on zerohedge made the same claim, that they have nothing to offer Epstien to sing.

        Unnecessary.

        Everyone who is connected to Epstien is already singing.

        Clinton putting out a statement that fast? He’s not in on it.

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    • desperatelyseekingmelania says:

      What makes anybody think the DOJ wants to know anything Epstein has to tell them

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  16. gary says:

    ‘i’m recused. no i’m not. hahahahaha’

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    • C says:

      exactly.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      There are multiple cases.

      Attorney General William Barr won’t recuse himself from overseeing the new charges against convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein — even though he has stepped aside from the review of the Upper East Side billionaire’s 2008 sweetheart plea deal.

      He’s recused and he’s not recused. There’s nothing wrong with this.

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  17. Dutchman says:

    We DON’T know ‘whats going on’, and like most news stories since DJT rode the escalator, we need to treat it as a DEVELOPING story, and no, not a ’36 hour rule’, this may be closer to 36 weeks, or even 36 months.

    It clearly doesn’t have the ‘feel’of a ‘Trumpsmear’, it looks to me like that is a weak attempt at deflection, that will not IMHO, gain much traction.

    Personally, RIGHT NOW my best guess is its the Obama faction trying to drive a stake in the heart of the Hag. They are battling over influencing who will be the Democrat nominee in 2020.

    I don’t see this being ‘swept under the rug’, too much info is out there, in msm news. Likewise, I am doubtful Epstien will be arcanticided. Too much intence focus.

    Anyway, thats my take as of now, on this DEVELOPING story, we all just need to ‘stay tuned’.

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    • LafnH20 says:

      I agree, Dutchman, with your obama/clinton struggle.
      I’m sure there’s more… but…

      The o doesn’t want the beast to screw it up again. (She would)
      The beast doesn’t want o to bury her aspirations. (He Will)

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    • cantcforest says:

      Agreed, although sometimes PDJT or his loyal followers give head fakes, but sometimes the Deep State muddies the water. That’s what I think happened with the census question: some Deep Stater didn’t check to see if PDJT and AG Barr were going to continue to fight. But why didn’t we see a firing?

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      • Greg says:

        Maybe this outed someone and now the three hop rule connects a few more traitors, on going investigation, soon the entire Dem party and the MSM will need lawyers, hell lawyers are gonna need lawyers. Trump is still adding more jobs, might have to import some from Mexico..Firing will be just after the indictment.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Firing embeds, (political appointees transferred to civil service, during Obamas term) is difficult and time consuming process. NOT like running a business with ‘at will’ employees.

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    • WSB says:

      Epstein could have a problem in prison, though. Just like Whitey Bolger.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Possible but unlikely. Too high profile; there wasn’t a lot of media attention to the fact Bolger was being transferred, prior to him getting his dead on.
        Unless Epstien has pics of mob bosses or Mueller, he will be high profile, and as pedophile he will be in seperate population; snitches, pedos and those,who just can’t stand up for themselves.

        So, he’ll be in “great company”, just sitting there on the group W bench.

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  18. Summer says:

    Why do the Democrats and their henchmen who seem to always have all kinds of ethical conflicts NEVER recuse themselves but want everyone else to be recused or fired? Mueller took the job and hired a bunch of Clintonistas despite a huge conflict of interests. Rosenstein did not recuse himself while being a material witness in the case he himself supervised. I haven’t heard about Mueller and Rosenstein consulting the ethic committee. Have you? That FISA judge Rudolph Contreras did not recuse himself either, he was kicked off the case. Double standards.

    I am glad that Barr did not emulate Sessions. That’s good.

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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      RE: “Why do the Democrats and their henchmen who seem to always have all kinds of ethical conflicts NEVER recuse themselves but want everyone else to be recused or fired?”

      Simple. Because they’re EVIL. That’s what EVIL People do.

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  19. sarasotosfan says:

    That sound you hear are those outsized wallets that have funded the Democrats being CLOSED.

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  20. CopperTop says:

    IMPORTANT:
    Looking back at Sasse questions of AG at confirm hearing:
    2:03 through about 2:05
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4774004/sen-sasse-questions-william-barr-epstein-case

    I’m sorting out “Exactly what my role CAN be [empahsis mine”.

    This was an AFFIRMATIVE statement that he already planned to recuse only in specific/older areas.

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    • John55 says:

      I think those questions indicate that, while to us this Epstein business came out of the blue, it was actually in the pipeline at least six months ago.

      It also shows that knowledge was not restricted to the DOJ but that the Senate Judiciary Committee was in the loop on it.

      The involvement of Sasse is a little troubling, since he’s one of the more Deep State-ish of all the GOP Senators (And God knows that’s saying something) but all we can do is wait and see how it plays out.

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  21. WeThePeople2016 says:

    As I posted on the previous thread, Barr should have said the first time that he recused from the Florida case as reason noted above but not from the NY case. It would have cleared up the confusion.

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    • jbowen82 says:

      I’m not sure exactly when his earlier statement was made. Might it have tipped off that there WAS an SDNY case if he had mentioned it before the arrest (or somehow qualified his recusal to indicate that there might still be other open Epstein case files)?

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  22. ristvan says:

    Lurking Lawyer here.
    I commented on this earlier today on a previous thread. I am a pretty good lawyer and was– like most– erroneously ‘confused’ by Barr’s less than clear statement, which DoJ was busy clarifying this morning. I went and checked DoJ primary sources today rather rely on anyone’s reporting.

    Barr is not recused from the present SDNY case against Epstein (and I suspect based on the [name]-[name] CD ROM the FBI recovered from his locked safe Saturday night, soon a whole lot of others like Clinton). Barr is PDJT’s hammer against these swamp critters.

    Barr properly recused from the new DoJ review of the previous Acosta non-prosecution agreement in 2007? Conflict of interest is determined at the law firm, not the lawyer, level. In the previous agreement, Epstein was represented by Ken Starr of KE while Barr was a KE partner. So a bog standard mandatory recusal. No different than diGenova unable to represent PDJT in Mueller Russia despite offer because of wife/law partner Victoria’s representation of a possibly involved witness.

    The reason for now reviewing the 2007 non-prosecution agreement is that on 2/21/19, pursuant to a lawsuit by some of the 2007 victims, Judge Marra of the federal district court of Miami ruled it unlawful. Then US DA Acosta did not give two weeks prior notice to the then named victims before finalizing the suspect agreement. That notice is required by the Crime Victim Rights Act, 18USC3771, so that the victims can intervene and protest. Since Dershowitz (who also defended Epstein in this case) says the agreement was vetted up the chain in DoJ, there has to be an investigation of how this happened and why. Another DoJ deep state black eye for sure.

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    • Sofa King says:

      Everyone mentions Lawfare.
      Like Warfare, the strategy is Paramount, deciding where to attack, without getting bogged down or suffering a setback.

      Barr has been quiet, which usually indicates a buildup and force deployment in key areas before execution of a careful battle plan.
      The Dims have been lulled to sleep.
      A costly mistake at the beginning of this battle.

      Epstein is a queen, on OUR side of the board. Like a queen, he can hit multiple pieces, across the board. Like a queen, as soon as a piece is captured, it’s the other sides move …

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    • I Hear You Now says:

      Thank you so much, ristvan, for taking the time to give us your detailed and knowledgeable expertise. I continue to be so very grateful for your valuable input.

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    • jbowen82 says:

      Technofog speculates that Epstein was cooperating with DOJ in a Wall Street case.

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    • Phil Free says:

      you said CD ROM (singular) .. but it’s plural. they found “compact discs” — no telling how many. Quite the find —

      It looks to me like whoever is on those discs, are not going to be very happy …

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      • ristvan says:

        correct. but the others were judging from the labels just child porn. the disc labeled [name](girl)–[name](client) is a copy (if not the original) of his blackmail tapes.

        and remember, nobody can figure out how he made his money as a money manager. as one big hedge fund trader put it on twitter, “weird. A big hunting polar bear with no footprints in the snow.” so the speculation is, it was all big money off shore blackmail of the very wealthy from the beginning. Dunno. SDNY will find out.

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        • GB Bari says:

          I would imagine that a significant portion of his big money came from “membership fees” to have access to the “services” provided in his “Club.” That’s different than blackmail, but I’d imagine that the penalties for revealing the existence or nature of the “Club” would be blackmail or worse.

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          • ristvan says:

            I had not thought of that. Not my expertise area. But makes total sense.
            A sort of pervert Mar a Lago business model, with the Lolita Express and Orgy Island thrown in ‘free’.

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            • Neither a lawyer nor a twitterer, but a post on CTH yesterday cited a twitter feed from “Quantian” that suggested a compelling theory as to how Mr. Epstein went from high school physics teacher to billionaire jet setter. It all started withLeslie Wehner (Victoria secrets) unexplainably deeding his mansion to Mr. Epstein for $10. Mr. Epstein has all the skills that make for a successful politician (and that is not meant as a compliment to either), but turned his primary focus to money. What offends the politicians most is not the victimization of children, but rather the mirror that is Epstein, reflecting the character of themselves. (Maybe some loose ties to Dorian Gray?) Will make for a successful (if sordid) movie someday.

              https://mobile.twitter.com/quantian1/status/1148303671857491968

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          • Mary Morse says:

            Like Nxivm.
            Reportedly, both hired Juval Aviv’s Interfor to investigate their victims. Village Voice reported that Aviva had highly sensitive bank and phone records in the dossiers that they produced for Nxivm. Any possibility that Interfor was one of the contractors with access to the NASA database?

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            • WSB says:

              That would be interesting. Makes sense.

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              • Mary Morse says:

                Here’s a link to the article. https://www.scribd.com/document/18464712/village-voice-news-the-spooky-truth-behind-the-media-s-favorite-spy-juval-aviv-full-article

                And a link to a blog where additional links can be found
                http://acivilcontemptblog.blogspot.com/2011/03billionaire-jeffrey-epsteins-accused.html?m=1

                This blog is written some time ago and its author was involved in bankruptcy litigation with Bear Stearns, apparently. I don’t have this correct. I interpreted the author as Interfor was hired by both Nxivm and Epstein. However, its more. complicated. Nxivm hired Interfor to investigate its enemies and they used some heavy tactics.
                In the bankruptcy case against the blog author, the trust attorney hired Interfor and Riley to investigate the author. Bear Stearns paid the bill.

                Riley is the private investigator that Epstein hired to intimidate his victims, allegedly. Epstein was supposedly given a light sentence for information that he provided against Bear Stearns. He was the primary investor in two off shore B/S hedge funds that failed during the subprime debacle, according to this blog.

                The blog authors bankruptcy litigation was the result of a failed margin call of the authors fund in which B/S was a major investor. The author writes that this happened during the S+L crisis of ’87.

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            • Mary Morse says:

              Reading more in the court documents linked at the blog, apparently, the author spent some time incarcerated and the phone recordings were jail recordings. Not sure what the bank records were.

              Interesting blog. Seems that if we want to understand Epsteins business, we might need to understand Bear Stearns.

              If Epstein had lots of illicit money that needed cleaning, and he was Bears primary investor, wouldn’t that make B/S the cleaner? Next question is did they know?

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          • elsuperbus says:

            It’s hard to tell if it’s blackmail vs subscription fees, likely a combination of both. The blackmail payments probably came in as recurring fees, instead of lump sum payments. Looks just like subscription fees or continued investments.

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        • stripmallgrackle says:

          I read that investigators found a young lady’s high school transcripts at Epstein’s place. Couldn’t help thinking, “What, was he conducting formal interviews?”

          “You’re a very attractive girl, Tess, and I can see you’re very talented. You’re a great candidate for the position. However, looking at your grades, I’m concerned that you haven’t really been applying yourself when it comes to your studies, indicating some potential issues that, frankly, could impact your performance if we brought you on board. I noticed you went from a 3.8 to a 2.3 in algebra, the last two semesters. Spanish class shows a similar pattern. This is a key position, and anything less than total commitment is unacceptable. If you can get these grades back up next Fall, you should consider reapplying. We’d be happy to give you a second look.”

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    • Bubby says:

      Ristvan “Then US DA Acosta did not give two weeks prior notice to the then named victims before finalizing the suspect agreement. That notice is required by the Crime Victim Rights Act, 18USC3771, so that the victims can intervene and protest.” So Acosta did screw up? Is that a significant screw up? Is Pelosi right that he should be fired because of that mistake?

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      • ristvan says:

        Bubby, IMO no.
        Reason: A possible legal ‘detail’ mistake (if not ordered from above) as a US District Attorney (and likely not him personally, rather his staff) has little bearing on his present job over a decade later as Secretary of Labor in the Cabinet. Pelosi’s demand is a form of guilt by association, which politicians always trot out and to which I am violently allergic.

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    • convert says:

      Thanks for the explanation. It’s obvious that the DOJ penchant for corruption, favoritism, and ineptitude that has been so clearly revealed by the whole Trump Russia travesty has been going on for a long while, even before Obama.

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    • Isman says:

      I’d like to hear the back story on how this was kept secret so the [name] CD ROM was still there for the house search.

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      • WSB says:

        Have been reading that ‘insiders’ were suprised that the arrest was on a Friday night? and not on a Monday.

        Epstein had just landed in his jet coming from Paris. I wonder who he was traveling with?

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    • Rhoda R says:

      Thank you Ristvan. But I’m still confused over the state/Fed distribution of effort. If this was a state prosecution what role did the DOJ play and why were they offering reduced sentences and immunizing Epstein associates?

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      • ristvan says:

        RR, this is a controversial legal area just opinioned upon again by SCOTUS. Issue is double federal/state jeopardy.
        I posted a detailed explanation on a just previous thread.
        Short answer, both have jurisdiction, no double jeopardy as defined by 5A, which only applies to federal laws, per 4A4 and 14A2.

        A different short answer. Both had jurisdiction. Under the facts at the time, Fed Acosta said wanted some things:
        Jail (which Florida State prosecutors sorta did)
        Registration as a sex offender (which happened).
        So, the fed prosecutor exercised his prosecutorial discretion not to pursue what many would perceive as double jeopardy, even tho SCOTUS just said again it isn’t.

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  23. mg says:

    About time for Barr to fashion some safari wear and head back to Alaska in his pontoon plane and check on the Oil issues with the natives. For crying out loud nail someones backside in the Obama Gang. Slick Willie is probably in-between the 9th and 10th holes at Farm Neck Golf Club on Marthas Vineyard accompanied by the Vineyard Twins!

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    • desperatelyseekingmelania says:

      Anytime he starts feeling anxious about justice being served on a Democrat icon, he can just make the quick trip from Martha’s Vineyard over to Dike Bridge

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    • ristvan says:

      Patience. We Deplorables now have two Big Uglies in play simultaneously.

      The older one is Spygate, where FISA abuse per Horowitz will take down Comey, Yates, and probably several others, while Durham’s investigation of unlawful EC predicate will take down Brennan and Clapper, and the combination might take down at least Rice and Powers. Awfully close to Obama and the Obama faction of the Dems.

      The newer one is SDNY Epstein and where it leads, alike to Clinton and other major Dems and Dem supporters given Epstein’s Dem support role. Takes down the Clinton faction of Dems. And the only Dem ‘faction’ left is the far left nutters represented by Crazy Bernie and AOC.

      PDJT has AG Barr handling both Uglies, plus the Census citizenship question (where I predicted here many threads ago based on muffed law arguments in the NY APA case ‘wrongly’ decided by Roberts, that the cutting issues never reached SCOTUS and Barr needed to put in a competent legal team–which he just did over this weekend).

      That leaves PDJT free to deal with China, NoKo, immigration, and lots of other stuff like re-election, keeping the Senate, and winning back the House. I’m liking it so far.

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      • SwampRatTerrier says:

        Well said.

        “Stay at Rest”

        “Sometimes the reason we feel full of frustration is we’re trying to change things that only God can change. You can’t change people and make them do what’s right. You can pray for them and encourage them, but they have their own free will. Don’t let them steal your joy…..

        https://www.joelosteen.com/Pages/Blog.aspx?blogid=13920

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      • mg says:

        Trust me
        No new taxes

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        • GB Bari says:

          No comparison whatsoever between Willam Barr and GHW Bush.
          Bush made that risky promise to the nation and then proceeded broke it into small pieces.
          AG Barr has made NO promises except to follow the letter of the law. That’s not a risky statement unless one intends to not follow the law. IMHO Barr will not break that pledge.

          Anything else you may believe he has promised, you have likely imputed to him based on his generally supportive stances on many things re. President Trump.

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      • David A says:

        Ristvan, if Comey, Yates, Brennan and Clapper ( Johnny Carson skit?)
        all go down, will much more of the DOJ go down for obstruction regarding the Clinton server investigation?
        Can Awan and Bengazi be dragged back into the fray along with the IRS targeting of conservatives? Can all the immunity candy be revoked?

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      • WSB says:

        I so agree. Just heard tonight that a NY court will not allow Barr to change his legal team on the Census case? WTH?

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  24. ms Idaho says:

    Imaginary questions to an imaginary person of interest at Epstein’s trial.
    Q – I see your name is listed on the flight logs for Epstein’s airplane. I also note the presence on the flight of a number of very young girls. Did you notice them? Did you have illicit interactions with them?
    A – Yes, I saw the young women. NO, I did not interact with them
    Q- Did you know why they were there?
    A – well, I suspected …
    Q – then why did you not use your power and influence to defend and help them? Hmmmmm?

    Next frequent flyer (or intimate friend)- wash, rinse, repeat…

    From what I have been reading (and there is a lot to read), private citizen Trump is the only person who offered & provided help. Do we have reason to believe that help may also be available for more recent victims?

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    • TJ says:

      Bradley Edwards represented some of the victims in 2009, he was sued by Epstein for defamation, Edwards counter sued and won.

      “I served Mr. Trump with a subpoena for deposition in 2009. He talked to me voluntarily, and consequently we withdrew the subpoena in light of his voluntarily providing information…. I can’t imagine there being any dispute of any of this.” – Bradley Edwards/Vice News
      https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5450513ce4b048855519f0da/t/5745c37e2b8dded5358a9c51/1464189835182/affidavit-of-edwards-exh-n-to-stm-undisputed-facts.pdf

      “The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person, who in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I wanted to talk to them.

      “He is the only person who picked up the phone and said let’s just talk I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know and was very helpful in the information that he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information that checked out and that helped us and that we didn’t have to take a deposition of him.” Bradley Edwards speaking to journalist Derrick Boze, 12/04/2018, YouTube

      Donald Trump Banned Jeffrey Epstein from Mara-a-Lago according to Epstein book author

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  25. Trumpublicans saw yesterday’s recusal news and had a ‘here we go again’ moment of anger … which I imagine POTUS did as well. I’d bet money he was quickly on the phone with the AG.

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  26. mostlyogauge says:

    I think this was a hard count at 4th and less than a yard at the opponents 5 yard line, and was done on purpose. Our VSGPDJT is a master, CORRECTION, THEE master troller. I think Bill Barr is pretty good too. I love to watch his water bottle head nod when he testified before Congress. This recusal non-recusal was a big hard count, a big head fake. The dems did a Billy Whiteshoes Johnson end zone celebration yesterday, but then experienced a number 10 pucker factor today when they saw the flag. I was laughing out loud when I read this post by Sundance.

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    • LafnH20 says:

      I’m waiting for the obvious hand off into the center of the waiting defensive line –

      then the flee-flicker…

      Followed by a surgical pass to the “wide out” …
      racing across the field toward the back pylon!

      Gonna be… SWEET!!!

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  27. convert says:

    Translation: Trump rages at Barr last night that he was not going to pull a Sessions and recuse from the Media (D) latest plot to destroy him. Barr reconsiders.

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  28. jmclever says:

    It seems that as loud as Pelosi, Schummer and other dems are calling for Acosta to resign, he must be a huge threat to them and there is more to what happened with that suspicious plea deal than we realize. Maybe the Clintons pulled a Royal Flynn on him and he caved to protect a loved one? Pure speculation.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      Yeah, I’d love to find out what was behind that as well. I’d like to know if his action was approved AT higher levels or directed FROM higher levels.

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  29. Marshall says:

    Fox News propagandist just brushed off Bill Clinton’s many flights aboard the Lolita Express with the explanation that each of the 20+ flights was just a leg of of his admitted few flights. Anyone have an aviator’s perspective on this or seen the flight dates on the original documents?

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    • ristvan says:

      Yes, although not an aviator. My father was for many years a command USAF pilot. Per him at the dinner table many times, Pilot logs (like predecessor ship logs) are ‘sacrosanct’. They detail each flight separately from takeoff to landing, by definition (since the plane pilots can change on different plane flight legs–as with AF1 long hours with refueling in Alaska to Asia).

      The notion of ‘just flight legs’ is just more deep state fake news BS trying to forgive the unforgivable.
      Would welcome any licensed commercial non-military pilot feedback.

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      • ms Idaho says:

        Ristvan – non military pilot response. 10 yrs, 10k hours flight instructor – mostly 2 or 4 place small planes – lots of ups & downs as we used to say.. I logged each leg of each flight (but not a separate ‘flight’ for take off & landing practice [ smile). Date, time, place of take off, place of landing, student name, and if I recall (from many years ago), also a short recap of the reason for the flight. From introductory flight lessons to all levels of pilot certification. Not to mention some fun time in helicopters, gliders, sea planes and hot air balloons. That and more documented in my pilot flight log books. I will always treasure about 10 minutes hands on flying a DC-10 (under close supervision). PS I still have the log books.

        So, the spinners will spin, but all us commercial / professional pilots know what we are required to log – upon pain of losing your license (read means of livelihood and loss of life’s love of flying), no lying allowed

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    • GB Bari says:

      I ‘Liked’ your post because you answered your own question with the third word of your opening sentence.

      Propagandist = Liar.

      Consider that the 26 or 27 trips number has been out there for a long long time. So just today some brainiac decides it refers the number of segments of a few (4) trips? Consider the timing. Consider the source.

      IMO any further speculation is unnecessary, although ristvan’s is always helpful.

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    • Chip Doctor says:

      Marshall, Fox News has been running picture of Epstein all day…..PDJT is in most of them. Bill…..not so many. Fox is the enemy of the people.

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  30. Battleship Wisconsin says:

    Take a look at this article dated July 5th, 2019, on cnsnews.com, including the video that the article links to. It’s about a campaign talk Kamala Harris gave on July 3rd, 2019, in Des Moines, Iowa.

    Sen. Kamala Harris: ‘We Have a Predator Living in the White House’

    ‘While speaking to supporters at a town hall in Des Moines, Iowa, sponsored by NARAL Pro-Choice America on Wednesday, Sen. Kamala Harris called President Donald Trump “a predator.”

    As a prosecutor, Harris said she successfully prosecuted “big banks who preyed on homeowners, prosecuted pharmaceutical companies who preyed on seniors, prosecuted transnational criminal organizations who preyed on women and children, and I will tell you, we have a predator living in the White House.”’

    We have seen this pattern before. A Democrat politician gives a speech or issues a news release which uses carefully chosen rhetoric to associate Donald Trump with some breaking story of ethical, moral, or criminal wrongdoing that is currently appearing in the national news.

    In this most recent episode, it’s the developing Jeffrey Epstein indictment story.

    The words Kamala Harris uses in her Des Moines talk are ‘predator’ and ‘preyed on’ and ‘women and children’. She applies these words directly against President Trump in a way that implies more such accusations are coming.

    But Harris used those words on July 3rd, several days before the Epstein story broke. She and her staff had to have been tipped off by her Deep State allies inside the Department of Justice that an indictment against Epstein was coming.

    The remarks Kamala Harris made in Des Moines, Iowa, on July 3rd labeling Donald Trump a ‘predator’ are the opening shots of a coordinated campaign to smear President Trump with false accusations of being a sexual predator of underage girls.

    If past history is any guide, the false accusations against him will get a whole lot worse before this latest attempt at destroying the Trump presidency is over with.

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  31. B Woodward says:

    When I first saw a story that Comey’s daughter was on the team prosecuting this case, it made me think Ms Comey was put in place for damage control to protect important Democrat politicians.

    Then I saw this article which indicates that the Clinton democrats are going to use the Epstein case to open a new front in the attack on President Trump.
    https://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/epstein-indictment-is-hillary-behind-a-trump-epstein-collusion-theory-120767/

    So the Epstein case could be a double-edged sword. Let’s hope that AG Barr keeps President Trump from being cut up by more Christine Blasey Fords creating fabrications. The Senate really did a disservice by giving Ford a free pass and not prosecuting her for perjury.

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  32. CopperTop says:

    WTF…?????

    Look at the flight manifest…

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known

    How do two different aircraft have consecutive US origin tail #s?

    Two different model planes delivered at the exact same time in sequence to afford the owner sequential tail numbers???

    any BOEING or Beech or Piper Execs out her answer this (heck cessna for that matter)

    “Uniform Delta over”

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    • CopperTop says:

      That’s a new wrinkle on a vanity plate process. Epstein had planes but bothered to secure sequential tail numbers. I understand it’s a 10 week process to swap out tail #s.

      Although I only know single plane owners so maybe it’s a ‘thing’ when one hoards.

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  33. Coastal Oak says:

    Finally some good news!

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  34. Coastal Oak says:

    Finally some good news!!!

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  35. Genie says:

    Flight logs hand written here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html
    Flight logs retyped and more legible for Palm Beach case here: https://archive.org/details/EpsteinFlightLogsLolitaExpress/page/n17
    Keep in mind the jet can’t land on his private island. It would land at St. Thomas FBO with the airport code “TIST.”
    Lots of names easy to read at the second link.

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  36. SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

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  37. boomerbeth says:

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  38. TPW says:

    I sure hope Barr is pulling a big head fake cause all these questionable things he is doing are all pointing to protecting the institution. Barr’s latest call to back Mueller if he doesn’ t testify is the biggest head scratcher so far. If Barr doesn’t see all Mueller’s corrupt behavior then A. He is definitely not in PT and our court and all in to minimizing . B. He is depending on corrupt underlings to do the leg work and they are keeping him in the dark. Which I believe happened to Sessions. C. He is keeping everyone off kilter still leaving the question whether he is white hat or black….

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    • Oh Please. Pardon me while give a collective eye roll. We can’t keep thinking everybody is in on it. At any time he desires Trump could declassify. He hasn’t. Trump put much more thought into this AG than he did Sessions which was merely a political payback. Those who think Trump was swooned and flattered by Barr’s oped must not really have much respect for Trump’s Chess playing ability. Quit insulting Potus. Barr is doing a good job so far.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I agree with you.

        It seems people are looking hard for Barr to do something wrong, and they’re scrutinizing every word, every report about him, every silence, and interpreting it negatively. To me this is just as wrong as being blindly faithful and trusting.

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  39. sundance says:

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    • litlbit2 says:

      Time will tell Sundance. The Bush connection exposed may alter that, as everyone in these political circles seems to be friends from time to time. Transparency?

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I’m struggling to find factual info to support the notion that he changed his mind or reversed his position. It seems pretty clear to me that he is recusing from reviewing the Florida plea deal but he’s not recusing from the New York case. Did he at any time state that he was recusing from all Epstein-related matters old and new?

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    • dallasdan says:

      A cynic might conclude that the situation with Epstein and his pedo cabal is so serious that Barr needs to come in to stop the bleeding and dress the wound. Just a random observation, not an accusation.

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      • boomerbeth says:

        COMPANY LOYALTY
        Fixer then; Fixer now.
        Past is prologue.
        Barr er, Johnson is CIA FIRST.
        How the Company gave him his future. Put him through Law School, opened doors.

        Where would he & Epstein be without them?

        To wit:
        “Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?” Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he’d had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He’d cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had “been told” to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)

        https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-sick-story-played-out-for-years-in-plain-sight

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        • dallasdan says:

          I did not know about Epstein’s IC connection. Prosecutors will have to pejoratively re-define “sources and methods” when the trial begins.

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  40. litlbit2 says:

    Could someone check the passenger log for MSM riders since say 2008. Reporting up close and personal news of course. The same smutty tidbits their little minds dwell in daily.

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  41. GSparrow says:

    Barr’s non-recusal of the pending Epstein case is great news. It’s the best chance that the truth will be revealed. The crazed jackals are herding together and trying to make POTUS the main Epstein friend and offender in this scandal. Ellen Barkin’s Twitter site is viciously anti Trump and many others are salivating at the latest attempt to try and depose P Trump.

    I noticed Democrat Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Roberts Vance Jr. is making excuses for his offices decision in 2011 to downgrade Epstein’s sex offender to level 1 rather than the most severe Level 3. Vance said it was “a mistake and had been based on a misunderstanding of the relevant law…the People apparently relied on a combination of a mistaken interpretation of the governing legal standards and certain secondhand information about the Florida case.”

    “Vance has previously faced criticism for his handling of Harvey Weinstein’s case in 2015.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/us/jeffrey-epstein-sex-offender/index.html

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  42. 2020liberty2020 says:

    And comets daughter is ok. Screw u Barr and all I pius rinos. U self righteous fools who get beaten by mental midgets.

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  43. delighteddeplorable says:

    Cue Bubba’s sudden serious illness…..

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    • WSB says:

      Whoa. That is some story.

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    • Invisigoth says:

      Her husband the judge was removed from the bench when he was discovered using the office computer for non-work related extracurricular activities. She divorced him, and it was “bitter” and “contentious.” She was consumed by this case after losing reelection to the senate. $40-50 million went missing from Arkansas CPS. Crates of files were removed from Little Rock airport related to CGI. Secret Service is investigating. Smells like Clintons.

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    • Hillaryisguitly says:

      Arkansas, no less. That is a little spooky.

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  44. Mike says:

    LOL. Love this comment I just found on Breitbart. So true.

    Utakesally • 18 hours ago • edited
    For 10 long years Democrats showed amazing self-restraint by staying silent on this plea bargain until today when their pent up outrage at Alex Acosta can finally be released. Democrat, the purist party of lying phony’s ever assembled.

    Logging off now. Peace out.

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  45. Ollie says:

    Now I don’t have CTH’s gift for explanation – but I predict this is all about the Wiener laptop that went “missing” and the info they found on it. Also – Muller is never going to testify on the 17th (hell Barr even said if he stiff’s the Congress he would back him)

    I have never been more confident that justice will be done

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    • boomerbeth says:

      Mule-liar is Peter principle prototype . “The man behind the curtain”
      Correct.

      He won’t testify because…

      Andrew Weissmann is scheduled the next day behind closed doors.

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  46. Emuuuu says:

    Jeffrey Epstein’s upcoming suicide was a shock to Bill and I. Bill is has decided to leave the country for some time to recover.
    __ Hillary Clinton

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  47. wtd says:

    What I wrote when Barr named AG in Jan 2019. Deep State Rides Again
    http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3823/Deep-State-Rides-Again.aspx#.XSXLCQbo2y0.twitter

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  48. thedoc00 says:

    As information seeps into the light about this case a couple of thoughts come to mind:
    1. The Florida PD departments involved did NOT, “call for FBI involvement” to ensure prosecution. It will likely emerge that the Obama DoJ/FBI actually snatched the case to ensure it was “properly” executed.
    2. Acosta was NEVER in charge of the case but was acting under “close supervision” due to the number of high powered donors, celebrities and financial puppet masters involved.

    This has all the indicators of an issue about to backfire on somebody and its not the President.

    Acosta may be a lowsy fit for the pot he holds, so fire him for that reason. Yet in truth he has been kept around for this moment in time as he had no control over the deal that was made if he wanted to have career at DoJ or maybe even in law period, at the time

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