Trump and Xi G20 Meeting Saturday – U.S. Position: “No Concessions” – Sad Panda…

Sometimes we just read and think; sometimes we just read and laugh. This is the latter.

China continually looks at President Trump and the U.S. trade position through the wrong prism. Those around Chairman Xi genuinely seem to be incapable of understanding a U.S. President who independently represents long-term U.S. larger interests, and simultaneously leverages the U.S. market as a customer in a one-sided transaction.

The disconnect in Beijing analysis of the dynamic is really quite something.

After last weeks strategic magnanimous panda maneuver, Beijing was shocked, shocked, that President Trump continued to maintain “wrong thinking” toward the upcoming discussion with Chairman Xi.

It appears China fully expected some reciprocal trade bargaining based on their implied promise to release North Korean Chairman Kim Jong-un from manipulation; but Trump didn’t flinch.  Instead, of acquiescence to magnanimous panda, President Trump sends Chairman Kim a letter filled with “excellent content“. Beijing was snubbed.

So yesterday as a follow-up Beijing indicates a willingness to revisit the prior agreement by putting the face of Vice-Premier Liu He back into their negotiation position:

(Reuters) […] Chinese Vice Premier Liu He held a phone conversation with U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, China’s Ministry of Commerce said in a statement posted to its website on Tuesday morning. (more)

Liu He was the chief negotiator for Chairman Xi, and was stripped of the official title as spokesperson for the Xi regime after Beijing reneged on the deal.  The message was clear: during the three months of negotiations Liu He had agreed to too much structural change on China’s side of the trade confrontation.  The deal was scrapped by Beijing, and Liu He was stripped of his special envoy status as a person speaking for Chairman Xi.

By putting Liu back into the discussion this week, Beijing was signaling a willingness -likely a ruse, but a willingness nonetheless- to revisit the terms that existed prior to the breakdown.

The G20 is rapidly approaching… Beijing needs to identify POTUS Trump’s position.  Things in Beijing are urgent as preparations (mostly optics) for how Chairman Xi will engage with President Trump are needed.

So into this dynamic of China evaluating where they can expect to find their position, we’ve got two signals from a series of public messages: (1) magnanimous panda will give up DPRK nukes, in exchange for better terms; and when that didn’t get the desired result, (2) China signals they are willing to revisit the prior terms.

However, today Team Donald Trump responds to the messages:  NO DEAL !

Can you see what President Trump is doing here?

Trump is mirroring the historic approach deployed by China.  Beijing is facing a new dynamic where the U.S. President will not accept any retreat from his current position. This zero-sum outlook is exactly the same approach all Chinese negotiators use…. only this time it’s Trump using their strategy against them.  It’s President Trump who will not retreat from gained position.  This has to be seriously perplexing for Beijing.

Now, to be fair, unlike China President Trump is not constitutionally predisposed to never give ground… he’s a negotiator of reasonable compromise.  However, President Trump has modified his approach based on his knowledge of his adversary.

In essence, Donald Trump is mirroring the ideology and negotiating position of the person on the other side of the table….. only now, based on two-years of groundwork in preparation for his position, President Trump is carrying all the strength and leverage.

China is on its heels.  Trump has set up a dynamic where a pre-planned group of regional allies can easily compensate for any manufacturing deficit caused by Trump’s adversarial position toward China.   The corporate exodus visible within this plan has already begun.

The G20 is being held in Osaka, Japan.  Essentially President Trump’s home turf as expressed by his relationship with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and the recent high-honor of the first state visit to celebrate new Japanese Emperor Naruhito.

The geography for the G20 is perfect for this moment.  The dynamic of regional allies are all aligned with Trump as planned from the November 2017 ‘golden ticket‘ tour of Asia. Additionally, President Trump carries all of the economic leverage he was quietly assembling as Beijing underestimated and misinterpreted the Trump bravado.

At no time in history has a U.S. President ever had all of the consequential dynamics aligned in his favor.  This did not happen accidentally.

That’s why U.S. officials are saying they are not coming to the meeting with any concessions, and for the first time in modern history Beijing will have to make the compromise, or suffer a very visible set of consequences.

Quite remarkable.

Enjoy.

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204 Responses to Trump and Xi G20 Meeting Saturday – U.S. Position: “No Concessions” – Sad Panda…

  1. sundance says:

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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      And Reuters would know their end from a hole in the ground???????

      President Trump must have some wonderful recipes for fried panda!

      Liked by 8 people

    • GOOOOOOOOOD Mr.President no concessions to communist apparatchiks in China this will be warm up to no concessions to domestic red whor*s in hall of Congress regard foreign invaders…

      Liked by 11 people

      • jnr2d2 says:

        Not only NO concessions, but raise the ante!!!

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      • Sunshine says:

        Born, raised, and educated in Mao’s Communist era, fully-indoctrinated Xi Jinping is now at a total loss, like a chicken running around with its head cut off, when dealing with Trump.

        Xi and his cohorts are incapable of thinking outside of the box. It’s a one-way street for them, aka oppression not only of the masses but also of foreign entities.

        Xi’s daddy was a well-placed Chinese Communist Party leader, Xi Zhongxun, a former comrade of Communist China’s founder Mao Tse-tung.

        Trump is dealing with Mao Tse-Tung. Enjoy the show.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Trump has the opportunity here to break China on the scale Regan did to Russia. If so, the rest of the world wins, as the predator has been caged. Strategically, Trump may be offering them deals they cannot take, to weaken China as the main goal, while pretending he wants a trade deal.

      For all we know, Trump’s first action was to view Chana’s annual budget to see where their break point would be. So I wait with fascination to see how this all plays out. The longer China goes without a deal, the more desperate they become and the greater the likelihood Trump is going to ask for even more.

      Trump wins with or without a trade deal. China on the other hand, cannot afford to walk away from the G-20 without positive news, or capital flight will intensify.

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      • bert..like what to saying but please it is P R E S I D E N T TRUMP….

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        • bertdilbert says:

          Not really. When you just say the name Trump, a whole lot of other stuff automatically comes with it. Just saying the name comes with class and respect. That is what branding is all about.

          If I was directly addressing Trump, it of course be Mr. President, with the Trump omitted. Now If President Trump said to me “Just call me Donald”, then naturally I would honor his request. ;

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      • Remember when PDJT scolded Lighthizer about not wanting to ever hear the term “Memorandum of Understanding” again? He knew it was Wall Street talk to push the markets one way or the other.
        And, like you said, they’re liars, cheats, etc. Pretty heady stuff going on at 1600 PA Ave.

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        • bertdilbert says:

          LOI’s and MOU’s are what penny stock operators use to raise money. I believe project Russia got a LOI and we know how far that got. Trump does not want an agreement with the word “try”, he wants an agreement with the word “shall”.

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          • jnr2d2 says:

            However, a Deal Memo is very basic to see if there is a meeting of the minds on a framework, if not stop wasting time. If agreed, details to follow.

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      • James Carpenter says:

        Yes, it often falls back to “follow the money”. Capital flight extends? Xi’s life shortens.

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        • bertdilbert says:

          The funny thing is that China stole those islands in the South China Sea thinking they created and asset. Now Trump has turned those assets into liabilities. Those islands are just another future uncertainty that will keep money from moving to China. All Trump has to do is mention those islands and everything is wrapped in another layer of uncertainty.

          Trump is going to deal with those islands, it is just a question of when.

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      • usayes says:

        Willing to bet that no matter what Xi does, the capital flight will continue… who wants to risk doing business with these nitwits?

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      • Sunshine says:

        YES.
        And let’s not forget their Hong Kong problem and its massive uprising of the population. Hong Kong is such a problem for Xi Jinping that he expressly stated that any mention of Hong Kong at the G20 will not be tolerated.
        Thus, I wonder if PDJT will mention Hong Kong.

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    • Comparing Xi’s body language with POTUS vs with Kim, Xi’s Panda Face looks sad.

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    • mike says:

      First time in 30 years, China is confronted with a US president that they didn’t own or rent. And GHW Bush, Nixon’s envoy to China in 1974 probably undermined Reagan on China too. Never underestimate the corruption in Russia/USSR and China’s CCP.

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  2. ozymandiasssss says:

    Let the Big Dog Eat!!

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  3. Sharon says:

    It’s sure nice to have someone in the oval office who knows what they’re doing and aren’t afraid to implement what they know.

    Liked by 23 people

  4. sarasotosfan says:

    Another Wow report.

    And the MSM has nothing to report.

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  5. 1herder says:

    Best President EVER!

    Liked by 10 people

  6. Greg1 says:

    President Trump has had this planned out for so long, in such minute detail, it staggers the imagination.

    China NEVERRRR saw Trump coming. Well, they did………the way the media portrayed Trump.

    Except that AIN’T the real Trump.

    Fake news never thought they would fake out China with fake news. Neither did China.

    If they were being honest, China could tell the MSM just how wrong they are on Trump.

    This is one time fake news (basing all of their assumptions and reporting on Trump through their bias) accidentally benefitted the country.

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    • 🍺Gunny66 says:

      You can just hear him 10 or 15 years ago sitting around talking to his powerful friends.

      “China has been ripping us off for decades.” “How can we fix this?”

      “Let’s make a plan”

      Yep…..our VSG…..Drawing everything into his orbit.

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      • 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 VSG…..Drawing everything into his orbit.

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        • jnr2d2 says:

          Like a black hole, they underestimate it’s pull till it’s too late, then they are crushed. Yep, the Big Dog will eat!!

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          • litlbit2 says:

            China will now need to follow through as advised, especially with Biden leading. If China can hold on Trump, that is President Trump will be gone in the 2020 election. 🙈🙈

            The wisdom of the Russian Saga writers, actors, liars, House of Representatives, McConnell, Ryan, CoC…….doing the same thing expecting different results. Probably should learn eating with chopsticks 🥢

            MAGA/KAG

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    • Well said, Greg1.

      The Globalist Cabal’s actions to suppress & distort M$M coverage of President Trump’s progress and successes has YUGELY limited the world’s ability to thwart America’s Resurgence!

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  7. He just keeps waving that magic wand all over the world.

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  8. Raised on Reagan says:

    China’s Century of Humiliation just received a reboot.

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  9. Eric says:

    I just said to my wife, “Sundance’s favorite topic is economics. He’s been writing about how Trump is setting up the Chinese for two years now. If they were only paying attention to this site, they wouldn’t be so screwed.”

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    • The Boss says:

      We are considered to be out of the mainstream.
      That’s what we get for looking for real news.
      And that’s what China gets for believing fake news.
      Sucks to be the Chicoms now.
      Back at ’em with “No tickee, no laundry”.

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    • Pa Hermit says:

      Ya gotta remember that Google would be in the process of eliminating this site from it’s search engine via the algorithm.

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    • progpoker says:

      I believe that’s been discussed. Unfortunatey for China, even if they read here the concepts would look Greek to them. I don’t believe there is a translation for win-win. LOL!

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  10. 1herder says:

    Life is good….a VSGPDJT and Sundance to report on it. It doesn’t get any better than this!

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  11. China has been very exploitative of its customers for many decades. It presented itself as a “cheap manufacturer of first resort,” and helped itself to far too many things that other nations were far too willing to give. Oddly enough, this has not been healthy for them, but they don’t see it that way. Perhaps Trump, the master “Art of the Deal” man, can get them to do what they ought to have done decades ago. International trade should be mutually beneficial, not exploitative.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Mike Robertson;
      Exactly WHAT is it that “China should have done, decades ago?”

      Trade ‘fairly’, i.e. don’t cheat? If they don’t cheat, they can’t compete. If you send all your innovative thinkers to re-education camps, or harvest their organs, you won’t have innovative thinkers, which you must have to compete.

      If you eliminate the system that encourages debasing the raw material with ‘fillers’, you eliminate the CCP system.

      The only way CHINA can compete fairly (without cheating) is to open up their society in ways that would inevitably undermine CCP rule.

      So, without ever saying the words “regime change”, that is the inevitable end point for China. That, IMHO is the END GAME. We will see if I am right.

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      • I believe that China has simply exploited the notion that “we are the last surviving Communist regime.” The Soviets threw away this ideology and broke apart their former Union. The Chinese used their absolute power over their citizens to “… Sell for Less, Always.™”

        As you correctly suggest, China’s present Communist government is ultimately on its way out … “T-Square” was the obvious harbinger of this despite cruel repression. But that’s still some distance in the future. (And, in the grand scheme of History, “the Communist era” will prove to be just a ‘blip’ … much as it was with the USSR. “Bottom line: Communism doesn’t work,” and Time moves on.) This inevitable realization can’t be a factor in our negotiations … yet. But I’d certainly like to see it in my lifetime.

        For now, we still have to deal with the Panda.

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        • Dutchman says:

          No one can accurately predict when the bell tolls,…but sooner or later.
          NO one, except Reagan and a very few of his advisors saw the collapse coming, and no one can predict when for CCP.

          BUT, it is just as inevitable. Before 2020, or after. Certainly before 2024, would be my guess. I really think its already ‘too late to turn back’; that even if PDJT stopped the tarifs today, which he has no intention of doing,…it wouldn’t forestall the crash. Sooner or later, CCP is going to HAVE to face reality, the sooner they do, the less pain for them and their people.

          Unfortunately, even after CCP goes the way of the Soviets, there will probably STILL be Conmunists. Like a pyramid scheme, its a CON that keeps getting recycled.

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      • GB Bari says:

        You answered your own question in your second, third, and fourth paragraphs.

        Yes they should have done all that decades ago but seriously lacked the wisdom to predict the consequences of not doing so. That resulted from them being such a closed (translated: “closed-minded”) society.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Put another way, WHAT would we suggest CCP/Xi do NOW?

          And what could they have done, 30 years ago that would make a difference in their current situation?

          And only thing I can think of is for CCP to relinquish power. Then or now, the Conmunist, central controlled system simply can NOT compete.

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          • 🍺Gunny66 says:

            They did not take the time to build a manufacturing or agricultural base.

            They bought everything or stole everything.

            Now, it’s like being on a rocket and they just ran out of fuel……

            “You mean we have no brakes?”…….

            Sucks to be them

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            • Dutchman says:

              Yeah, Gunny I get that.
              Only cause Sundance wrote about how China tried to take a ‘shortcut’, instead of a more ‘natural’ development.

              Reminds me of the realistic but fake Civil Defence poster, you remember?
              In the event of emminent Nuclear explosion. When you see the bright flash, stick your head between your legs,…
              And kiss your *ss goodbye!
              It really sucks to be them, and that river in egypt AIN’T your friend.

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            • GB Bari says:

              I was thinking along the lines that the Chinese did not foster a cultural environment that encouraged “out of the box” thinking, thus imagination, creativity, originality, inspiration. inventiveness, and resourcefulness were all stifled.

              These traits are the roots and foundation of general engineering development and design in all engineering disciplines. China’s culture of obedience and subservience to their masters should have been relaxed to encourage more innovation, but instead was reinforced.

              That significantly hampered Chinese companies from developing their own designs and caused them to leap right into manufacturing and assembly of parts copied from other countries’ designs. It also meant they lept right past the decades of trail and error and the huge financial investments required to develop technologies and adequate engineering designs. Thus they very quickly were able to compete with western countries’ products, having only a small fraction of the total investment.

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          • I’m withholding hints for the CCP
            … other than “Trust in Trump” … 🤣

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            • Dutchman says:

              I still go with put head between legs, kiss *ss goodbye. No ‘hints’ there, LOL.
              Wake up and smell the cofeve?

              Give your soul to Jesus, cause your *ss belongs to Trump?

              They give political prisoners death sentences, suspended, and tissue type them. When a recipient ‘matches’, your time is up. And they have developed a system of cathatarising the carotid arteries, killing brain but keeping organs viable, so they can harvest EVERYTHING.

              THAT curbed my sympathy somewhat, reading up on the ‘black market organ donor’ work CCP is involved in.

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  12. Stillwater says:

    Chairman Xi: “Wrong thinking”
    President Trump: “Wrong prism”

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  13. FL_GUY says:

    President Trump prefers a Win/Win deal, but if you insist, It will be a President Trump wins, you lose deal. Dragon gonna have a flameout.

    I hope all the sell-out politicians in DC are being monitored as to their dealings with China.

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  14. Bullseye says:

    Feels great to be with a winner !! Sadly, I don’t think anything will get done until after Pres Trump wins in 2020 then China will be begging for a meet

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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      China is cracked!

      They’ve had 70 years under the Communists!

      They could have developed real capital assets, dams, roads, infrastructure needed for a REAL economy.

      Instead they just sat on their bums and stuck their hands under it …. for 70 years.

      Last year or maybe a year and half ago Sundance posted several times how China squandered their opportunities. He pointed out how their population is aging and to build a real infrastructure you need a “young” population – to build bridges, dams, roads,.i.e., infrastructure!

      China’s economy is like a Hollywood western stage set.

      All false fronts (their seacoast cities) and no substance to sustain anything real.

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      • jojotom01 says:

        China’s economy is a Potemkin village. Incidentally, all the Dem-Socialist ideas are also Potemkin villages.

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      • peace says:

        They’ve done a lot of manufacturing. Stores in Illinois are loaded with crap from China! It’s very sad when one cannot even buy an electric can opener for home use that’s made in America.

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        • steph_gray says:

          Yet.

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        • 3rdday61 says:

          Peace,
          What’s sad is that nothing whatsoever is being done, nor seemingly even known to these commenters, to prevent the original cause of the expropriation of our wealth to China or anywhere else for that matter. It should be as plain as day now. The President is finally mentioning it, after the damage has already been inflicted , I might add.
          It’s the Federal Reserve!!! You absolutely , positively cannot get the double digit growth needed to even keep pace with the debt and spending. The Fed has you convinced that growth is inflationary, which has just been proven again to be a lie, and as soon as we show a spark of growth, they douse it and yell ‘fire'(inflation) Ready, fire, aim. Repeat.
          In case you’ve been asleep, since inauguration the Fed has raised rates 8 times from .41% to the current 2.4% (that’s a 485% increase) and simultaneously withdrawn $50Billion per month out of the money supply. These are anti-growth measures. And theft of our prosperity (That’s one form of expropriation). They took $200Billion out of the banks and raised the cost of money 8 times. Because….. Donald Trump. That’s why.
          Don’t give me this crap ‘you can’t fight the Fed’. You neuter them and set yourselves free to grow. Or stay slaves to the bankers and sellout pols.
          God tells us that His People are destroyed by a lack of knowledge. Last I checked ‘We The People’ reside in One Nation Under God.

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        • 3rdday61 says:

          Peace,
          I just reread my response to your can opener comment and noticed that my rant seemed to be directed at you personally. Please accept my sincere apologies. I complete agree with your sentiment. I will endeavor to be more careful with my wording in the future.
          Peace.

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    • Esther says:

      A whole lot is getting done. Xi is watching the money fly from China and Hong Kong, along with many businesses. By 2020 what will China’s economy look like?

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      • Henry chance says:

        Money and power. They “control” partners by lending dollars. They are out of dollars and nobody wants a loan in Yuan (Panda tp)

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  15. Pa Hermit says:

    Love that Wolverine Mask POTUS is wearing! Can’t wait for the GOPe response! Karma, baby, KARMA!

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  16. todayistheday99 says:

    Meanwhile, the Media Propaganda outlets and their sycophant listeners haven’t a clue what is actually happening.

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    • “The Media Propaganda….and sycophant listeners haven’t a clue..” Because they (and possibly the Chinese) think there is a democrat light at the end of the 2020 tunnel. That light, increasingly becoming hopeless to everyone, is two near octogenarian geezers that are close to ‘assisted-living home’ status rather than their ‘whiskey dreams’ of the Oval Office.

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  17. Dutchman says:

    So, Xi has had his aces up his sleeve (Norks or Iran stirring up ‘trouble’ which Xi could then ‘help with’ in exchange for trade concessions) stripped from him.

    Delay only hurts Xi, while PDJT is in NO HURRY, and is obviously immune to any pressure to “make a deal, just to be able to say he made a deal”.

    Xi is expressing, in theory at least, a willingness to return to where the negotiations WERE, before China renigged.

    PDJT is not impressed, and is showing an inclination to continue, exploring blacklisting additional companies, even though the process is a year out.

    Xi can ink a deal, that precludes cheating, with verification, in which case they will be caught cheating and sanctioned even worse than they are now. (My assumption being that the tarrifs imposed for cheating have to be more severe than those used to get Xi to the table.)

    To truly meet PDJT’s reasonable demands, China either becomes a ‘3rd world’ country, unable to compete in a global economy, OR the CCP must relinquish control.

    Allow innovative thought, rule of law, etc. which are anathema to CCP rule.

    WHAT to do?
    I suspect, although I have no ‘special knowledge’, that PDJT will want to add an emphasis on CURRENCY MANIPULATION to the list of “no no’s” already developed.

    A punishment for renigging is certainly in order, and its an issue that needs to be addressed, as its as insidious as ‘dumping’.

    Funny stuff, and amasing how similar Xi and CCP’s reaction is to PDJT, and Uniparties reaction is. Both just don’t “get” PDJT, and keep trying the same plays (that have always worked before!)
    and just can’t understand why they don’t work now!

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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      Yes, the NK put shots and Iran stinking up the room all within about a week’s time – before the Gee Whiz 20 were all too too too obvious weren’t they?

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      • Dutchman says:

        Anticipated and countered, and the Rino/neocon urgings also entirely predictable, and effectively deflected. VSG, indeed!

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        • SwampRatTerrier says:

          Spot On!!!!!!!!

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        • El Torito says:

          Yes Sir. The first American life lost over the drone being downed would have been a giant political hit.

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          • Dutchman says:

            I have no idea HOW much od what PDJT does is 3d chess, well thought out ahead of time, and how much is instinct.

            This was not only the RIGHT thing to do, but I think was politically very astute, as well.
            Wonder how many ‘leftists’ red pill because of this decision to NOT engage with Iran?

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            • Orygun says:

              President Trump looks at every decision as being an opportunity. By waiting to the last minute with Iran he was able to identify more people in the Gov and Mil that are working at cross purposes to the return of this Republic to We the People.

              Like Santa making a list and checking it twice.

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              • Dutchman says:

                My THINKING is that he knew two options for China (once he started this trade war) would be the Nork gambit, or the Iran gambit.
                Hence, his first trip abroad was to ME, where he cemented alliance of Israel, Sunni dominant arab countries and U.S. into alliance that could “check” Iran. IMHO, IF Iran crosses a line, the alliance will devastate Iran. “Don’t sweat the little stuff”, but go too far, and BAM.
                Then, he similarly nuetralised the phony threat of Nork. So, I THINK he had it all gamed out, with halting the strike against Iran, but you never know.

                Doing it the way he did was politically very astute, methinks.
                A lot of lefties heads exploded, with him “calling off” the strike and explaining why.
                It doesn’t fit the lefty image of him as a warmonger, etc.

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  18. rcogburn says:

    Adding insult to injury, Xi’s calls to Joe Biden keep going straight to voice mail.

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  19. rharkonen113 says:

    Using economic leverage to back China into a corner doesn’t mean the conflict will remain economic and always handled across a table. If they find themselves without acceptable trade leverage, they will look at other options, such as getting Iran to create military problems by shooting down drones, etc.

    Preferable and not really avoidable, but trade war is war, so expect all sorts of military problems to pop up.

    Its not obvious its good to have such a huge military presence in the Gulf mostly serving as targets for the desperation of totalitarian regimes feeling pressure. It would be ideal to ignore them. But if you don’t give them something convenient to hit, I suppose they would have a reason to come here.

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    • Dutchman says:

      rharkhonen,
      The thing about an economic war is bullets don’t get you, where you need to be.
      People urged Reagan NOT to say “tear down this wall!” People feared what Reagan was doing would lead to a,war, because they didn’t understand it wasn’t about “weapons systems”; it was about the $ to PAY for the weapons systems.

      Anyway, USSR did not go to war with U.S., cause doing so wouldn’t solve the problem.

      VSGPDJT has exposed and dealt with the threats from Iran and Norks, I believe.
      They only work as THREATS, like the empty threats of a bully.

      IMHO, there will be no ‘shooting war’with China, OR its proxies. It simply doesn’t benefit China in ANY way.

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      • MVW says:

        China gets its oil from Iran. Trump says if there is war with Iran, there will be no Iran, no endless blood sucking drawn out war like Bush / Obama. That ends that story.

        China by offering NK nukes means they are China’s nukes and NK is China’s vassal. Which means no cover. Any NK military action is owned by China. That ends that story.

        So, that ends the military option.

        Trump would prefer tariffs, but offers China a fair deal, but only if enforceable. China will lose with a fair deal long term…if they stay Communist. They know this. Communists are long term stupid and will end up with tariffs.

        Quicksand.

        Mexico was smart, but then again they are not Communists.

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        • Dutchman says:

          MVW,
          Agree with the essence of your rough assesment. Ever been in a situation leading to bankruptcy? You explore your options, but your income is less than your outgo. You are keeping your head above water by depleting your reserves (savings) You have to increase one, decrease the other or both. But, you look at your

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        • Dutchman says:

          DARN this phone, I wasn’t finished yet. Anyway, China is draining its reserves, to try and stay afloat. Paying the tarifs, to keep people working. Despite that, jobs are leaving and will continue to leave. At some point, CCP will be forced to recognise the truth; they are on an inevitable path to ‘bankruptcy’; they can’t increase income, decrease outgo, or change the equation.
          When reality bites, it sucks!

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          • steph_gray says:

            Who was it who said in answer to the question “How did you go bankrupt?”

            “Very very slowly and then all at once.”

            (Paraphrasing from memory but love the quote!)

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            • Dutchman says:

              Yup, been there, done that, its JUST what its like, as Xi is finding out.
              Thing is, once you get over your denial, you can SEE it coming.
              Oh, and the CCP, themselves cost the Chinese economy over a trillion $’s a year!

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    • Anonoma says:

      A military conflict would overwhelmingly favor America and the PRC understands this. There was a recent Reuters article about Chinese worries about a military conflict with the US due to China’s naval impotence and dependence on imports through the Indian Ocean. It was posted maybe 10 days before Xi’s trip to Pyongyang was announced.

      Honestly, a war with China would be the best and easiest path to long term world peace, so long as China starts it. We have zero reason to send ground troops, rendering their massive army an irrelevant burden. China’s missiles can hit Guam and Japan, but can’t touch the US Navy blockading all their naval imports. About 10% of their GDP is exports to the US alone (gross, not whole supply chain), which puts them into an immediate recession. Other NATO countries make up another 5-10% of their GDP (gross, not whole supply chain), putting them into immediate economic crisis. Due to the way they handled the Great Recession and growth strategies since, they have very little cash on hand or ability to borrow to deficit spend through even a short war. They would end up like Venezuela within a few years, whereas NATO can offset our GDP dip in the short term with deficit spending on domestic manufacturing which eliminates the utility of Chinese imports in the long term.

      Obviously provoking such a war is an unacceptable strategy due to the likely damage to South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. Unless North Korea signs a peace treaty with US and remains neutral and both Japan and Taiwan invest heavily in anti-missile defenses, Trump is probably just as reluctant as Xi to let the economic conflict become a military one. If he wanted to provoke it, all he has to do is official recognize Taiwan as a sovereign, independent nation.

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      • MVW says:

        China has nukes. No one would win. China is not suicidal, neither are we. This will be kept economic. China in the end will not go the way of Venezuela.

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        • Anonoma says:

          If there’s no ground occupation, there’s no risk of regime change or being conquered, so there’s no reason to use nukes. Even the CCP knows that would cause nuclear retaliation rather than to cause US to surrender while our territory is totally unoccupied. Not to mention how the rest of the world would respond to a sudden nuclear strike. America would likely allow food imports to continue on humanitarian grounds to shore up the moral high ground.

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          • Any China move to war would be suicidal:
            • Blockade vs Energy shuts down industry, idling the workers
            • Blockade vs Food provokes the masses, sparking revolution
            • Termination of Trade destroys CCP’s SoE wealth, triggering coup

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    • Trent Telenko says:

      rharkonen113

      The Iranians are independent actors here. Pres. Trump’s sanctions reduced their economy 4.9% between March 2018 and March 2019 with a 37% inflation rate

      And the International Monetary Fund thinks Iran is in for a -6% GDP and 50% inflation for March 2019 to March 2020.

      Iran is heading for a Venezuelan style “out of money experience.”

      As an “Irrational Regime Under Pressure” they are going to get increasingly nutty and militant because it’s all they have left.

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  20. JustScott says:

    “A U.S. judge has found three large Chinese banks in contempt for refusing to comply with subpoenas in an investigation into North Korean sanctions violations. ”

    “The three banks are not identified, but details in court rulings align with a 2017 civil forfeiture action in which the Justice Department alleged that China’s state-owned Bank of Communications, China Merchants Bank and Shanghai Pudong Development Bank worked with a Hong Kong front company accused of laundering more than $100 million for North Korea’s sanctioned, state-run Foreign Trade Bank.
    Recommended Video

    The bank at risk of losing access to U.S. dollars, the lifeblood of international finance, appears to be SPDB, China’s ninth-largest bank by assets, whose roughly $900 billion makes it comparable in size to Goldman Sachs. ”

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/3-Chinese-banks-held-in-contempt-in-sanctions-14032564.php

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  21. lfhbrave says:

    For the past 30 years or so, it has always been Wall St. and multinational corp. siding with China. I would not be surprised this time they will do the same. The globalists are betting the U.S. -China trade war will have visible impacts on American consumers and thus hurt POTUS’s chance in 2020.

    Would it be the case this time China is calculating and is willing to be used by the globalists to weaken POTUS’s chance for reelection?

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    • starfcker says:

      No. As China has gained power, its predatory behavior towards multinational companies hasn’t been much nicer than it has treated anybody else. Most of corporate America knows that this has gone too far, and will welcome a chance to retrench their position vis-a-vis China. Corporate America may not be fond of the tariffs, but they sure wouldn’t mind seeing China knocked down a couple pegs on everything else.

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      • trump20162024 says:

        Thanks to the short-sightedness of the Wall Street banksters, most American CEOs and CFOs only care about this quarter’s profit and next quarter’s revenue forecast. These people couldn’t care less about American national security or its working class backbone.

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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      Sundance just posted this the day before yesterday.

      TheLastRefuge @TheLastRefuge2

      $1.2 trillion in capital just GTFO, disappeared….

      That’s TRILLION… with a “T”.

      Follow the money. Smart people know, even if Beijing keeps Panda head in sand.https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Datawatch/Quiet-capital-flight-dents-China-s-sway-as-1.2tn-disappears
      250
      8:48 PM – Jun 23, 2019

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  22. OhNoYouDont says:

    A once-obscure Chinese account seems to have an inside track on U.S.-China trade talks, even as other media are silent

    On taoran notes 陶然笔记

    (Translated)

    After a one-and-a-half-month Sino-US economic and trade consultation, there was a new movement after the talks between the two heads of state.

    In the early morning of June 25, the government issued a message.

    Sino-US high-level economic and trade consultations

    Xinhua News Agency, Beijing, June 25th, on June 24th, Liu Heying, member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee, vice premier of the State Council, and Chinese leader of the China-US Comprehensive Economic Dialogue, spoke to US Trade Representative Wright Heze and Finance Minister Mnuchin. The two sides exchanged views on economic and trade issues in accordance with the instructions of the two heads of state. Both parties agreed to continue to communicate.

    The news is short and detailed, and there are two aspects worthy of attention.

    1. On the one hand, this is the first call between the leaders of China and the United States after the 11th round of Sino-US economic and trade consultations.

    2. On the other hand, the Chinese side is familiar with the US side, but the US side may not recognize China’s determination to uphold its position.

    Summary: This is more like looking for bargaining chips. It does not see the US side attaching importance to US-China economic and trade cooperation. It is still essentially a means of exertion.

    It seems that some people in the United States still do not recognize China’s determination to uphold its position and still have illusions about persuading China to yield.

    If the US does not change its mind and does not change its practice, I am afraid that at most, China and the United States will continue to “exchange opinions and maintain communication” on economic and trade issues, and there will be no more substantial progress.

    The days from the G20 summit are getting closer and closer.

    Soon, you will see the difference.

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    • Eric says:

      If the status quo is maintained, then foreign investment will flee China.

      This only helps the United States.

      So if the Chinese want to maintain the status quo, great.

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    • A2 says:

      I translated them, all of them ( with my notes) here over a week ago when they first came out. Look on the Presidential thread around 15 June. Got in a spot of bother because the post was so long.

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    • jrapdx says:

      Of course as Sundance has so brilliantly elucidated, it’s not in the cards that trade negotiations between China and US actually make “progress”. China isn’t in any position to put demands on the US and the US is disinclined to make any concessions at all. IOW there’s nowhere to go with it. In theory China could accede to American insistence on compliance with formerly agree upon trade rules with due enforcement provisions. As a practical matter China has shown no interest in doing so, and what basis is there to trust that China would follow through? It looks like the die is cast, it’s all showmanship at this point, and sure seems inevitable China is going to be hit hard economically with onerous implications for the continued existence of its current government.

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      • trump20162024 says:

        Good. The long-suffering Chinese people deserve a much better government than the present chicom successors of the Tienanmen Square butchers.

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        • jrapdx says:

          Hard to argue with that—perhaps there have been exceptions (though I can’t think of any ATM) but dictatorship is among the worst forms of government. And isn’t that the very thing that made electing DJT appealing? He’s been steadfastly opposed to the slowly rising possibility of dictatorship engulfing the US, so we watch what happens in China very closely to avoid the same calamities happening here.

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  23. mr. deacon says:

    Most westerners are taught to think in linear terms and outcomes. A project must go in a certain direction, goal oriented. And obtain a result with a positive ending after a predetermined, inflexible, if not ambiguous, time period. Eastern minds do not see the world that way. They are circular thinkers. All things are Yin and Yang. Panda/Dragon. Concentric circles are actually joined, overlap, dependent on each other, and continuously expand and contract but remain intact. Moving Venn diagrams with a focus that moves as well. The Chinese see the U.S. economy and Trump as a part of their system. It has been included in their way of doing business. They don’t see or understand America as a competitor any more than we see any part of our bodies as competitors to any other part of our body. America’s and Trump’s body and mind should be in harmony with Bejing’s or the universe will be out of whack. Loss and illness is a setback but not death.

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  24. scrap1ron says:

    Amazing what can be accomplished when we have a President who doesn’t sell us out to the highest bidder. China is so used to purchasing the services of our decision makers that they have no plan B.

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  25. DiogeneseVindicated says:

    I would love to know for certain that the MSM played a pivotal role in mis-leading the Chicoms into thinking Trump was a dunce. I hope the Chinese now figure out that those phony 2020 election pol numbers are leading them on a wild goose chase.

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  26. Bert Darrell says:

    Here it comes; the 999th stupid plan.

    Pelosi cries: “think about the children” (as if they had been dropped from a passing cloud right on our Southern border).

    Promptly followed by the infamous MSM, headed by the more infamous NewYorkSlimes (quoted by CNBC.com): “Acting Customs and Border Protection Commissioner John Sanders will resign, a CBP official said Tuesday, as the Trump administration faces furor over treatment of migrant children.”

    Isn’t it amazing how the infamous MSM always know the exact reason why people do things such as, for example, resigning from an acting position? /S

    Coming to you courtesy of the Pelosi Lying Orchestra.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/25/trump-acting-cbp-commissioner-john-sanders-resigns.html

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  27. lansdalechip says:

    If you are very still and listen really hard, you can hear the lady of substantial girth out in the wings warming her vocal cords.
    She is expected on stage, soon.

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  28. trapper says:

    The Chicoms displayed their bad faith for the whole world to see when they backed out of the verbal deal their agent made. No one believes he was off on his own in a hotel somewhere running amok in the negotiations. He was absolutely certain to have been in constant daily communication with Beijing as to each and every issue and concession. Beijing reneged on the informal, unsigned deal.

    So – why would we have any confidence now that Xi would actually follow through and do anything he formally agrees to? The chicoms are liars, cheats, thieves, and murderers, completely without honor or credibility. Screw them. Levy a 100% tariff on everything coming out of China.

    Any company anywhere in the world that manufactures or sources any product or component in or from China and that has not already begun locking in alternate, non-Chinese sources should fire its CEO and COO now, today, for incompetence.

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  29. Kent says:

    ……”sad panda”….lolol…sort of like when I tell my buddy the mooch, once again….that no I will not ‘loan’ you any money…

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  30. noswamp says:

    China has been listening to Macron, the Dems including Feinstein and Biden. Not reading this forum as others have suggested.That is why they immediately attacked our farmers. It has always about politics. Now the clock has run out. I suspect that China will arrive to buy more time. Very little will be given if any. A shame. China is stubborn. But they understand that people are leaving. The people walking for the exits will turn into a stampede if they don’t reach a specific understanding at the G20 and China knows it. MENE MENE TEKEL PARSIN. The handwriting is on the wall.

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  31. Henry chance says:

    So we see an Executive Order and President Trump did not cave to American Hospital Association lobbyists.
    We see Turdolt also sent lobbyists. No ruck!

    But wait, Xi thinks he will get rucky?
    Even if Feinstien and Pelosis whisper in Trumps ear, don’t count on XI getting rucky.

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  32. Tiffthis says:

    Xi is becoming a “shovel tongue” as my dad would say. The more he talks the deeper in the hole he gets. 🤣💯

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  33. SPECULATION:
    After further China Failures-to-Close, President Trump “SUBDIVIDES the DEALMAKING”.

    • Cuts “PROGRESSIVE DEALS” covering ONE VIOLATION CLASS at a time.
    [“Progressive” invokes a Snowflake Trigger.]

    • Schedules DEADLINE DATES for the entire sequence of PROGRESSIVE DEALS, with TARIFF ESCALATION CONSEQUENCES for missed Deadlines.

    • Each Progressive Deal defines ENFORCEMENT through RESOLUTION-via-RESTITUTION, with Milestone Dates for resolving all pending cases and a TARIFF ESCALATION CLAUSE for missed Milestones.

    • Each Progressive Deal includes a MULTI-YEAR BUY that EXPANDS American Exports.

    • The LAST Progressive Deal covers IP THEFT … maintaining LEVERAGE on China as IP-heavy businesses exit for self-preservation, and on Big Tech to behave through the 2020 Election.

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  34. dufrst says:

    Trump has shown great discipline this week heading into the G20. That tells me he’s quite focused on his objectives and taking on all of the major leaders in the world from AMLO in Mexico, Modi in India, Merkel and the EU leaders, Xi, Putin and even Erdogan. Trump has proven to be a masterclass at holding court on the world stage and demonstrating that his AMERICA FIRST agenda is asserting itself more and more. This will be a very busy weekend in Japan and South Korea for Trump and historic when we look back on it all.

    We have a truly amazing president who is dealing on a high level on so many issues, more than we know. We all should pray for his success this weekend.

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  35. 335blues says:

    To reiterate, Trump had taken their Bishop and Knight, and their Queen was in imminent
    danger of the guillotine. But Xi acted like a child and overturned the board, and
    demanded a do-over.
    NO! We will replace the pieces exactly where they were, and continue the game.
    Grand Master Trump has Xi by the stones, and the game will be played through.
    Xi and his CCP are also exhibiting heinous behavior inside china.
    The harvesting of organs from live humans, first from the Falun Gong,
    and now from the Uighurs, unmasks the chinese communists
    as less than human, displaying animalistic tendencies.
    Millions of Uighur men, women and children in forced labor concentration camps
    have already been DNA and antigen tested for compatibility of their organs
    with paying customers.
    In terror, they wait wondering if they will lose a kidney, their liver or their heart.

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  36. A2 says:

    Yesterday an article popped up on Bloomberg on how the President was ‘musing’ he wanted to break the US-Japan postwar Defense treaty because it was one-sided and Japan did not have to come to America’s aid if we were attacked, yet the US was committed to defending Japan. It struck me as very odd since the President obviously knows that is not so as Japan passed a law years ago that says precisely that.

    Bollocks. The article, again is based on anonymous sources with knowledge of the conversation, oh I mean ‘musings’. Bloomberg contacted the Japanese Defense Ministry and they said bollocks too, with a bow.

    The article was a stitch-up to rattle on about how the President is alienating allies and ripping up treaties. It was also planted to try and drive a wedge between the President and PM Abe on the eve of the G20.

    The press or paid actors in the press (#GreatChinaPayroll) are reaching new lows on the risible scale.

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    • kp says:

      A2,

      “It was also planted to try and drive a wedge between the President and PM Abe on the eve of the G20.”

      I would’ve reached the same conclusion if I read the article, because I naturally think the entire CDM [corporate democrat media] is aligned against anything President Trump is doing. They can’t allow even the slightest chance for his success as it undermines everything they stand for…the destruction of the USA.

      What’s amazing is you’re bringing this to the attention of CTH’ers. With unfathomable amounts of information bombarding us all from every direction, and the need to weed out the crap, it’s hard to find the time to digest it all. Or even determine if it’s worth our time…

      Thanks buku, for your continued vigilance in bringing us (or at least me) so much in depth analysis both from state-side press, and informative translations from the presstitutes on your side of the world. Truly, “Thank you”.

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  37. G20 in Hangzhou was the CCP’s moment to project their vision of “a new world order with Chinese characteristics.”

    G20 Osaka will hopefully confirm the world’s disinterest in that vision. Trump can’t do it solo. We need other western leaders to commit and apply enough pressure to successfully contain China.

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  38. ATheoK says:

    “By putting Liu back into the discussion this week, Beijing was signaling a willingness -likely a ruse, but a willingness nonetheless- to revisit the terms that existed prior to the breakdown.”

    Definitely a ruse.
    A serious attempt would have submitted the agreement with requests for changes. Instead, China puts the same negotiator back in after they slapped him down some. Which basically means that three months of agreements are history.

    President Trump is definitely a smart man!
    President Trump handed over to China an agreement that is best for American, and by association much better for China than China’s continued rapine dealings with the West.

    Now, China gets to learn that the best offer is on the table for serious consideration. China’s historic versions are in the waste bins where they belong.
    Making it China’s decision to either work with us, or be left without us.

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  39. A2 says:

    No one has commented that yesterday 6-25, marked 69 years when North Korea invaded the South and started what some call the ‘forgotten war’.

    It was not forgotten in SK . On this day in 1950 the Korean War began when 75,000 soldiers from the North Korean People’s Army poured across the 38th parallel. By July, American troops had entered the war on South Korea’s behalf.

    United Nations Command
    @UN_Command
    ·
    15h
    The Ministry of Patriots & Veterans Affairs hosted a commemorative ceremony in honor of the 69th Anniversary of the Korean War and to remember the sacrifices made by our veterans. We carry on their commitment and continue on the path towards peace and security on the peninsula.

    Robert Abrams
    @DogFaceSoldier
    ·
    20h
    Just attended a very moving ceremony hosted by the Ministry of Patriots and Veterans Affairs attended by many ROK and UNC veterans, as well as the Chiefs of Missions of our
    @UN_Command
    sending states. The PM gave an inspiring keynote address. 2/5

    One ROK veteran gave his personal testimony on behalf of his fallen comrades, some of whom are MIA, and reminded us all of our solemn duty to never stop our recovery efforts until the last soldier is returned to their family. A stark reminder that freedom is not free. 3/5

    The ceremony ended with the crowd of 5000 strong —all ages—standing and singing the song “6-25” (yes, a patriotic hymn just for this day) in honor of the sacrifices made which has enabled the ROK to become the vibrant and modern nation that it is today. 4/5

    Read the thread at the account.

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  40. Perot Conservative says:

    Awesome!

    1. Get Do Nothing Democrats to pass USMCA.

    2. Cement ag deal with Japan that equals or betters TPP, ASAP. (Continue remsining Japan negotiations.)

    3. Then new China tariffs on remaining $300 Billion in consumer goods? Or lower tariff in exchange for NK hostage release (Kim)?

    Pelosi doesn’t want to do anything as she wants us to struggle, wants economy to drop, so they have a prayer in 2020. Bug Gov’t; Supreme Court; OvamaCare; Green New Deal.

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  41. So . . . the Chinese Communists, with all their resources, still haven’t compiled & translated a basic biography of Donald Trump? He knew the Post Foundation considered Mar-A Lago a white elephant that they couldn’t afford to property maintain. (The U.S. government turned it down; even the Smithsonian turned it down.) So when Marjorie Post’s descendants put the property on the market at $25 million, Trump offered . . . 15.

    They snorted at the upstart. The nerve! And he was even proposing to let Jews and blacks play golf there!

    But when they couldn’t find anyone else to meet even THAT price, they grudgingly went back to Trump . . . who proceeded to tell them “You had a chance at 15 but you turned it down. My offer is now $12 million.” Outraged at such tactics, the Posts turned him down AGAIN, . . . and paid the price again, eventually selling to Trump for . . . $8 million.

    Trump held off the China tariffs for months last winter because Xi PERSONALLY stood up at the table at Buenos Aires and outlined the deal he was willing to make. Lighthizer and Mnuchin and Navarro were all very impressed that Xi made those promises PERSONALLY.

    So who’s Xi going to blame, now? “Bad translator”?

    I suspect (and hope) they’d seen all the “concessions” they were going to see, as of May 4. Witness Sparkle-Sox and Christia Freeland insisting “Trump would never make a bilateral deal with Mexico without US! We’ll NEVER have to drop the dairy tariffs!”

    — V.S.

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  42. Perot Conservative says:

    P.S. Revoke John Kerry’s passport.

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  43. Drogers says:

    Sundance ends this write-up w/ … ‘Enjoy.’

    Oh yes. Indeed. No doubt in my mind.

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  44. ADDgolfer says:

    Times like these meetings with opposing world leaders and their entourage has me wonder, just how thorough are the screenings? Is every possible scenario taken into account?
    A protective ultra thin skin over a toxic blemish of a hand during a handshake with our President, or a ceramic micro needle in a pocket liner or hairline.
    Maybe I’ve watched too many movies?
    But still…
    I’d feel better if full scan body searches are a little known process for any reception line or face to face?

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    • kp says:

      ADDgolfer,

      Given some of their embarassments over recent years, I’d venture the SS is up to the challenge these days. Probably hard to imagine the levels of ‘sweeps’ of potential threats to POTUS and rightly so. As SD has so aptly explained, “There are trillions at stake”.

      Still, I share your concern. Never have we seen so much benefit to so many (us) despised by so many (them) with so many forces arrayed against us all.

      Only one man stands in the way, President Donald J. Trump!

      Thank the LORD that He chose this man, and continues to watch over and guide him.

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  45. TheLastDemocrat says:

    Yes, it seems like Trump has a good approach to China.
    China is hurting.
    China had gone back to old ways, with NK firing some missile a couple months ago, after much progress.
    That failed to get Trump to ease up. China shows they are really hurting.
    Then, out of the blue, Iran seems to have smallish bombs blow up on several ships off of its coast.

    No one knows what to make of these so it is hardly a blip.

    Iran blows up a drone.

    It was a long shot by China. Almost at Hail Mary dimensions of importance. If it worked, and Trump looked bad getting lured into war, pressure on China would have eased. China at least would have an atmosphere of chaos in which to work on oil with Iran.

    Trump did not blink. Likely, Trump sees this Iran drone deal as a China manipulation and distraction.

    Drone ploy did not work. Now, Trump is tightening up on Iran. Today, NPR is portraying Iran as a huge victim due to economic sanctions. Boo hoo hoo. I feel for the people of Iran, but it is their government causing them trouble.

    Drone ploy did not work. Now China is starting to feel not so lucky.

    Now, China has to look at relations with European allies to thwart Trump and USA playing our cards that we have worked hard to be holding.

    What might come from Europe in the next week or two?

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    • kp says:

      TLD,

      Hmm, I’m not certain China isn’t the impetus for Iran’s recent dalliances, but I’m equally not certain they are. By that I mean, I could see the One, when he arranged to have pallets of American $’s delivered, having an agreement of sorts.

      Spoken? Written down? Probably not. But it was maybe ‘understood’ that the day would come when the One, or the powers behind him, would need a ‘disraction’ to use against a President of the other persuasion, not a team player, so to speak. They of course didn’t expect to need it so soon, what with the 3rd term of Bamster so well planned out, but that didn’t pan out.

      So, he sends one of his femme-boys (the very french-like Kerry) to call in the chips. And kaboom, we have an incident or 5 or 6 that no one saw coming. Veeery convenient.

      My scepticism meter was pegged after the 1st event.

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      • kp says:

        Meant to add, I agree, it will be very interesting to see what the Euro trash leaders dream up in the next few weeks. You can bet they are afraid of that guy in the WH.

        Sweet, let them have many sleepless nights!

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        • kp says:

          Ha, ha, tried to hit the ‘Reply’ button and accidentally hit the ‘Liked’ on my own post. Ha, didn’t even know you could do that! Well then, even if nobody likes my Bamster/Kerry/Iran$$$ theory, at least I know it’s liked by me… LOL

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  46. Genius. Brilliant.

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  47. GGHD says:

    President Donald Trump and his team his are skillfully dealing with China, through their plan to neutralize China’s strengths. … Perhaps China is frustrated, that in Donald Trump, they are also dealing with a man, that can’t be >Bribed, >Flattered, or >Threatened. The Panda is flummoxed by President Trump.

    …… From Forbes: ‘New Data: Bribery Is Often ‘An Unspoken Rule’ In China’ Jan 21, 2015.
    1. In Chinese mainland culture, money can be used to buy powerful friends.

    2. The 2008 Olympics in China became a theatrical staged production, that >flattered and >enthralled the Fake News Media. China is an ongoing enthralling parade for the Fake News.
    [The Fake News overlooked the horrific values and situation behind the Panda Mask.] +The Fake News is quite willing to overlook the exploitation of average citizens in China, and all the ecological harm caused by mainland China business practices. … The Fake News is copacetic with mainland China values.
    China like many authoritarian regimes uses pageantry for propaganda purposes. The Fake News is always a sucker for show-business.

    3. China used its sock-puppet North Korea to threaten the use of a Nuclear-Button. … President Donald Trump responded with, ‘My Nuclear-Button is bigger, and it always works.’

    God Bless America. Trump in 2020.

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  48. Zabadak says:

    I think this is just the start of better things to come. PT has already put the Fed and the central banks on notice. I think once he can get our trade imbalances reversed, and we become more self reliant, self sufficient and self sustaining, he will go for the jugular…and put us back onto the gold standard. Goodbye Fed. A total reset. No more deficit spending. I really think he intends to do this. Historically glorious. What a time to be alive to witness such a patriotic love that our President has for our Country and the American people. I love this man!

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  49. Gary Lacey says:

    What is apparent, the Chinese don’t want a fair trade deal, they want an advantage.
    PS: Curious, are FED rate increases tied to the cause of inflation, there seems to be a correlation between high interest rates and inflation?

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