President Trump Outwits Chairman Xi Jinping Ahead of G20 Summit…

President Trump has taken the leverage of economics to levels of geopolitical strategy never seen before.  Nowhere is the genius strategy more clear than in the way Trump has positioned the trade reset and confrontation with China.

In hindsight every move since early 2017 including:  (1) the warm welcome of Chairman Xi Jinping to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate; (2) the vociferous praise poured upon Xi; (3) the November 2017 tour of Asia; (4) the direct engagement with North Korean Chairman Kim Jong Un; the strategic relationship with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe; and a host of smaller nuanced moves have been quietly building toward a conclusion.

The upcoming G-20 summit is the last chance for Trump and Xi to reconcile considerable differences and President Trump has the strongest strategic position any Chinese official has ever faced.

After Beijing walked away from previous agreements between USTR Robert Lighthizer and Vice-Premier Liu He, Trump initiated a series of punishing economic consequences that had to have been well planned in advance.

The economy in China is reeling from the pressure applied; and stunningly it has only been a month since the consequence phase began.

In addition to tariff increases, the U.S. blacklisted Huawei Technologies Co., threatened other major Chinese tech companies and essentially cut-off China from the international supply chain it needs to sustain itself.  Beijing responded by drawing up a list of “unreliable entities” and making threats against any enterprise that would walk away from business engagement with China.  The totalitarian response has worsened the situation, and more companies have announced their intent to decouple from Beijing.

An important aspect, missed by most observers, is the ideology and outlook within any Chinese engagement. Quite simply, if it does not benefit China it is not done.  Therefore any negotiation with China is challenging because Beijing will cede no ground they view as already won.

China does not believe in ‘concession from current position‘ within any terms.  Ultimately this is the reason why the negotiated agreement by Lighthizer and Vice-Premier He was dismissed by Beijing and talks collapsed. China will not cede an already attained position.

China never negotiates terms where they give ground.  Almost all negotiation with China has historically surrounded time.  To appease the West the longer-thinking approach of China has been to negotiate winning more slowly, but they will never retreat on previously won gains.

However, in advance of the G20 Summit in Japan President Trump has positioned Chairman Xi in a lose/lose dynamic.  This forces the outlook of Beijing into a state of internal anxiety.  Only President Donald Trump could have achieved this position, is really is remarkable and is noted within this Bloomberg article:

(Bloomberg) By now, Xi Jinping is used to Donald Trump’s tariff threats. But the U.S. president’s latest ultimatum is personal, and the Chinese leader’s response could have far-reaching consequences for his political future.

Trump on Monday said he could impose tariffs “much higher than 25%” on $300 billion in Chinese goods if Xi doesn’t meet him at the upcoming Group of 20 summit in Japan. China’s foreign ministry — which usually refuses to provide details of meetings until the very last minute — declined Tuesday to say whether the meeting would take place.

The brinkmanship puts Xi — China’s strongest leader in decades — in perhaps the toughest spot of his six-year presidency. If Xi caves to Trump’s threats, he risks looking weak at home. If he declines the meeting, he must accept the economic costs that come with Trump possibly extending the trade conflict through the 2020 presidential elections.

“Whether they meet or not, none of the possible scenarios are good for President Xi or the economy in the long run,” said Zhang Jian, an associate professor at Peking University. “You don’t have a good choice which can meet the needs of the Chinese economy or Mr. Xi’s political calculations.”  (read more)

Read that again carefully….

“If Xi caves to Trump’s threats, he risks looking weak at home. If he declines the meeting, he must accept the economic costs that come with Trump possibly extending the trade conflict through the 2020 presidential elections.”

That is what you call a Lose/Lose scenario.

China NEVER faces lose/lose situations.  The Chinese culture doesn’t even have a frame of reference for a position that includes ‘less losing’ amid better options.

For President Trump to have navigated Chairman Xi into such a position is the pinnacle of strategic success. In the long history of western engagement with Beijing it has never happened, ever.

President Trump is now playing with Chairman Xi like a mouse in a maze.

Trump wants to go to the full confrontation position. Donald J Trump has been talking about this for thirty years.  Additionally, for the past two years he has strategically laid the groundwork and aligned the allies needed for this final confrontation.  President Trump is looking for an excuse to apply the scale of tariffs on China that will crush their U.S. export business – and – force them into massive state subsidies to retain their manufacturing model. This approach creates pressure to retract from preexisting global financial obligations.

President Trump has threatened more tariffs and more consequential action as it relates to non-tariff barriers, IP protection, forced technology transfers etc. as a result of China  reneging on their prior agreement.  In essence, President Trump has put Chairman Xi under threat.  Beijing’s traditional and cultural position would be no-meeting and no negotiation while under threats.

However, as a baseline disposition President Trump doesn’t want Xi Jinping to meet with him.  The appearance of a ‘slight’ is the opening Trump can exploit to apply the 25% tariffs to the remaining $350 billion of imported Chinese goods. This will crush his adversary.

So what does President Trump do… while the tariff threat and trade punishment looms (and he keeps reminding everyone of it), he levels massive amounts of praise upon Chairman Xi making the pressure almost unbearable.

Laughably, U.S. President Trump is wearing the panda mask, and simultaneously applying the dragon approach.  Yes, Trump is using China’s own duplicitous strategy against them.

Chairman Xi cannot meet with President Trump or his appearance implies a willingness to negotiate terms; and that reverses the dismissive position previously outlined by Beijing when they rebuked the earlier agreement. A meeting now would appear as weak.

However, if Xi refuses the G20 meeting he will be walking into a trap and allowing President Trump to take all adversarial action that could indeed collapse Xi’s economy.

Worse still, Beijing cannot fall-back-on their historic approach and begin shooting missiles from their proxy province of North Korea to attain leverage and negotiating position… because President Trump has already blunted that ability by meeting with Chairman Kim Jong Un.

Oh, the G20 is going to be epic.

…and LOL, the G20 is on Trump’s home ASEAN turf, Japan, with Trump’s good friend and golf partner Prime Minister Abe.

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341 Responses to President Trump Outwits Chairman Xi Jinping Ahead of G20 Summit…

  1. DJSnyder says:

    You had your chance, China. Now go pound sand until your people are reduced to eating garbage like the Venezuelans.

    Liked by 8 people

    • USTerminator says:

      Xi maybe not go to G20 meeting now due to some emergency or illness. That way he can avoid lose/lose scenario.

      Liked by 6 people

    • sunnydaze says:

      ugh.

      Even Steven trade deal doesn’t equal “U.S. wins/ Chinese eat dirt”.

      Neither Trump, nor any other sane person, wants that.

      Liked by 4 people

      • DJSnyder says:

        I’m just saying, that’s where every communist/socialist governed country ends up eventually… China has only been able to stave it off by covert theft of money and tech from the USA…

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        • sunnydaze says:

          Got it. Thanks, DJ, for the clarification.

          And China’s people have been there before with Mao and Gang of Four. Pretty sure they’d go ballistic on the “Leaders” before they’ll be willing to go there again (eating dirt, that is).

          At this point, Xi and the rest of them are probably more scared of what their own people will do to them if they don’t “rescue” the situation before it gets to that.

          Seriously, the West trained them into thinking they could get these unfair trade deals *forever* and we are partly to blame for their present predicament. Cuz what we’ve got on our hands now are a bunch of spoiled 4 YO’s and we are the Bad Parents who made ’em that way.

          Big FU to both sides for decades of bad behavior and the Chinese are smart enough to figure out a way to strengthen their own economy w/o the help of ignorant Westerners who kowtow to them at every turn.

          So best of luck to all involved. And Thankyou Prez Trump for the Wake Ups Call to All.

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          • Newt Love says:

            After all of the abuse China has spewed on so many, Tibet, the Dalai Lama, Taiwan, Hong Kong, the Chinese people, and China’s satellite proxies (N. Korea, …), well, “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.”

            Let the entire country self-destruct, like Venezuela, and then we can go in and help the people set up one of the many forms of democracy.

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        • Donzo says:

          Yes, they’re thieves, but mostly our politicians and business community handed over the goods for personal gain. That’s not thievery.. We were sold out.

          Liked by 3 people

          • FrankieZee says:

            Donzo: You are 100% right. We were sold out. That can be one of the TRUMPSTER calling cards for 2020. The DEMO CRAPS sold you out.

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        • Jon Jones says:

          And yet, libs in the USA see it as utopia.

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    • Carrie2 says:

      This is called “losing face” and if all goes as our President and we want it could cause Xi being removed from his position or even removed from the planet. Hopefully Xi can talk to several of his comrades about backing off and saving his skin and keeping China able to function. A warrior can threaten but not necessarily win and especially with a non-Chinese person. Fun and games now in action so will be interesting to see how it all ends, hopefully better for the Chinese people, as well as No.K going in the right direction to free Kim’s people and become a country many will visit and then the money flows in a lot better for his country with no threats from the “neighbor”. Our President is actually realigning many countries back to thinking about being free and no longer owned by the globalists who want the whole planet in their power.

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      • Esther says:

        Carrie2, that’s not how it is done luv. Xi will find a subordinate scapegoat, or several of them. I’m thinking the trade negotiating team may not have time to say goodbye to their families before disappearing. He’ll get a lot of public support from other CCP leaders because they do not want China to lose face, but in private Xi is going to get soaked President for Life sounds real good, until it leaves your colleagues no choice but to cut short that life as the only means of removal.

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      • trialbytruth says:

        Good point Carrie

        This is a huge loss of face and prestige. If he does not meet with trump as Trump lavishes praise on him he is being rude and looses face.

        He could show the Dragon mask directly and state a confrontational reason for not meeting Trump. He might be able to retain power that way but he will be residing over an ever shrinking China and even bigger loss of prestige.

        Strong man governments don’t do well if they take a knee. That is usually followed by extending the neck and ending up a foot shorter. It appears Trump was not engaging China to fix trade but rather to disembowel their power structure. This will ensure that China stays within its own border.

        Belt and road has become noose and fence.

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        • rayvandune says:

          And in defending America’s interests in such dangerous times, the Democrats are doing NOTHING to support the President, and EVERYTHING to support our enemies, something he should remind the American people of every day. The message is simple: we only gain ground DESPITE the Democrats, and only lose ground BECAUSE of the Democrats! That is how we must deal with the traitors. War!!

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        • rayvandune says:

          And in defending America’s interests in such dangerous times, the Democrats are doing NOTHING to support the President, and EVERYTHING to support our enemies, something he should remind the American people of every day. The message is simple: we only gain ground DESPITE the Democrats, and only lose ground BECAUSE of the Democrats! That is how we must deal with the traitors. War!!

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        • FrankieZee says:

          The Ultra Rich in China will not put up with Xi for too long. They have too much to lose and they have been lived the life of luxary for too long to abandon it.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Wait until Trump tells Xi that they are going to have to give up their man made islands in the South China Sea as part of any trade deal… Now they would be in a triple lose position!

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      • Marygrace Powers says:

        The Real Problem with China’s South China Sea Bases/

        China has built some islands in the South China Sea. But can it protect them?

        by Robert Farley Follow drfarls on TwitterL
        April 17,2019

        “During World War II Japan found that control of islands offered some strategic advantages, but not enough to force the United States to reduce each island individually. Moreover, over time the islands became a strategic liability, as Japan struggled to keep them supplied with food, fuel and equipment. The islands of the SCS are conveniently located for China, but do they really represent an asset to China’s military? The answer is yes, but in an actual conflict the value would dwindle quickly…..

        …But in conflict, the durability of an airfield depends on the availability of materials and equipment to execute repairs after an attack. It is not obvious that the islands China has created in the South China Sea will be robust enough to continue in operation after U.S. missile and bomb attacks. Although the larger islands have aircraft shelters, it is an open question whether these shelters could long survive a concerted U.S. attack.

        The islands of the SCS have some military relevance, but are more important as a political claim to waterways and undersea resources. Militarily, they represent a thin crust on China’s A2/AD system. Under certain conditions this crust could disrupt U.S. freedom of action, but it won’t be hard for the United States’ Air Force and Navy to punch through.”

        https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/real-problem-chinas-south-china-sea-bases-52907

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        • sarasotosfan says:

          Since we paid for that damn island to be built, we probably should take it off of Xi’s hands. 😉

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        • bertdilbert says:

          China is an island, they are nearly 100% dependent on shipping. Therefore, whoever controls the sea, wins. The moment the area becomes a war zone, all shipping ceases.

          As a carrier of cargo, ships must have insurance. Nobody is going to insure a ship operating in a war zone. The cargo value can be more then than the ship.

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        • 4EDouglas says:

          The big problem is the Chinese held islands are mostly coral and sand with lagoons that they filled in with sand. not stable and easy to crater. an Ohio Class Boomer would make short work of them also we do not need to take them just disable. bypass them like Rabaul ..

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        • rayvandune says:

          “Although the larger islands have aircraft shelters…”

          But do they have RUNWAY shelters? If a plane cannot land, it might as well have been shot down. If it cannot take off, it might as well be sitting on the mainland. Carriers with stealth fighters with supercruise and VTOL ability could come in mighty handy, but the Chinese don’t have them. The real difference boils down to that, and the fact that and island is easy to find and hard to sink, while a carrier can be harder to find and easier to sink.

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        • val66 says:

          A bit apples and oranges comparing Japanese islands and China’s SCS island.

          China’s SCS island is near mainland China and within China’s mainland-based anti-ship and anti-air defenses. So it is easier to defend and supply. Also, our Navy is no longer designed appropriately for naval battles. It is carrier dominant, which can easily be defeated with China’s new hypersonic anti-ship missiles.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        That would be a great dealing gambit. Get what you really want by naming something you know they won’t give up. They’ll eventually withdraw from the islands if Xi craters the Chinese economy anyway.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Trump best identifies with Ronald Reagan. Regan is probably best know for economically breaking Russia by attacking their export product, oil.

      So Trump is going to outdo Regan. He is going to economically break China by attacking their export product, manufactured goods. Trump is going to bring down the Great Wall.

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      • WES says:

        Bert: You bring up a good point about what Reagon did to Russia in the 1980s!

        I was sent to Russia in 1983 to help modernize a coal mine in Siberia.

        Up until that point, I like most folks was very leary of Russia.

        However, once I arrived there I suddenly was no longer afraid of Russia because I quickly relized that, while they had good military equipment, they couldn’t produce butter if their lives depended on it!

        Siberia of 1983 was like going back in time to the 1930s and 1940s!

        Reagon increased military spending 50% from 4% to 6% of GNP but Russia was already struggling spending 35% of GNP on defense and just couldn’t increase it 50%!

        I then realized that Reagon had a big V8 engine that merely purred at the increased rev’s while Russia was running on a rickety old 4 cylinder engine with a broken piston, one piston with badly worn rings, one piston just going along for the free ride, and one piston driven by fear doing all the work!

        About 7 years later Russia hit the brick wall!

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        • bertdilbert says:

          I had a Chinese diesel engine in the early 2000. The instructions were to fill the radiator with clean river water!

          China is up against Trump. Trump has the following qualities.

          4 years military school.
          Degree in economics.
          Top negotiator
          New York Minute – makes fast decisions.

          Just to name a few. And that top negotiator is all people skills. Knowing your opponent.

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        • Kintbury says:

          I would say if you are worried about Russia, spend an evening washing Russian car crash videos on You Tube. You will sleep better. They couldn’t find their asses with two hands and a flashlight.

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      • rayvandune says:

        And Reagan built the B-2. The Russians knew they could not do that.

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    • Esther says:

      Maybe.. but though Xi is gasping for breath he’s not yet dead.

      We know Xi also has problems at home with Hong Kong which has gained the attention of the international community. So he is desperate, and therefore dangerous.
      Xi has one card he has been attempting to play recently. He’s got a ton of US congressmen, businessmen and the USA CoC in his back pocket because they sold out to China and he’s got the evidence to bury them. Watch the pressure pile onto Trump as Xi directs his minions to attack.

      They’ll be calls for quick bills in both the House and Senate to reign in Trump due to his mental instability. There may even be lawsuits filed against this action by Trump. Xi holds some dangerous information on a lot of our politicians who sold out to him. Biden will step up his attacks, so will the MSM. O Boy, Mich McConnel will be apoplectic. Nancy, Feinstein, Cummings and Waters will step out front of the pack.

      Take notes people, the swamp has to slither out of the slime for this one. Watch the loudest ones, yeah Lindsey Graham too. Crying Chuck will start talking about a deal and compromise on the border wall and immigration. POPCORN!

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      • trialbytruth says:

        I would venture a guess that even that may be in this play that Trump as set out. If Xi makes too obvious a move < say try to defeat Trump in the general it will become obvious and If I were Trump I would be instructing the IC to monitor it.

        I am sure the greed merchants of the COC are ringing Xi right now asking for money to fix this. I dont want to sound all 3d chess conspiratorial. But these plays are really quite obvious China will go back to its proven tactics how easy a trap is that?

        Xi's other card he may play domestically (subtlety is not China's strong suit) is to round up dissidents in Hong Kong. Such a move would bring Condemnation from the world but much like Tienanmen China would expect no lasting pain from the government it would be blacked out quickly with Googles help.

        Trump would not let that go and he would harden his position making anyone who wanted to work with China look like a fool or traitor. (joe), (COC), (DNC), (Amash), (Mitch)

        I love my President

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      • formerdem says:

        Boycott China till the harassment of Trump stops.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        So, more of the same. Unfortunately for Xi, Trump has been and is going through the coup. Trump has already been flame-hardened. This battle against China is for re-asserting America’s economic primacy, but it is also a move against political corruption in the US as you point out. I don’t think Trump will back down. China’s problem is they depend on the US to back off delivering the death blow. Always.

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      • Einfach Mensch says:

        Very special President Trump may hold the same information that Xi has, showing which of our elected officials has sold out to China. As long as AG Barr is enforces the rule of law and PDJT stays aggressive, none of these miscreants can misbehave excessively. We’ve seen that he saves his biggest weapons for the worst situations, preferring to let the opposition’s missteps solve the problem.

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      • Tom Idlewood says:

        The US ought to have FISA warrants on the CoC, to monitor their communications and catch them in the shakedown. Two-fer.

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  2. Sentient says:

    The US has always held the better hand. We finally have a president who doesn’t just fold.

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    • The_Real Bob W. says:

      Right you are.

      As someone who worked for a long time in high-tech manufacturing – and who ‘had to’ directly help offshore jobs, including eventually my own – I for decades dreaded every news report of various G## summits since their gist was sure to be some variation of: “U.S. continues to be sold down the river.”

      I’m looking forward to this meeting.

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  3. FL_GUY says:

    Well China’s all China of nothing policy reminds me of the D-Rats: Bi-partisanship is doing everything the D-Rats want. Otherwise, no deal.

    So China, better start humming this Billy Preston tune: Nothing from Nothing Leaves Nothing…….. Gotta have something, if you want to deal with President Trump….yeah… yeah

    Because that is what All or Nothing China is going to end up with, NOTHING!!!!! President Trump doesn’t do ALL but he will take it if he can get it and the dragon can’t bribe or coerce their way this time. Better stuff that Yin/Yang philosophy and learn a new word; COMPROMISE, can you spell it China? Better learn.. JMHO

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  4. Gregory McCue says:

    Are you aware of the situation with Asian Swine Flu ( sometimes called “pig ebola”, though it is completely unrelated to ebola ) ? The Chinese government has already destroyed 1 or 2 million pigs, but there is speculation that as many as 200 million may have to be destroyed. If it gets that bad, China will be facing serious food shortages over the next year.

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  5. Dutchman says:

    How to be ruthless; its not easy to be unfeeling, and crush your opponent.

    So, first you offer them a fair deal, a way out. When they refuse your generous offer, a win/win for both parties, then you don’t have to struggle with guilt or consciounce, cause its on THEM, not you.

    You go to G20, you don’t go, makes no difference to me; I win either way!
    Winnamins, more winnamins aisle 3!

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  6. Phil aka Felipe says:

    No happy panda face with Mr. Xi in the above photo. A picture worth many words.

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  7. Bill says:

    Finding a way to lose less in a losing situation is not unknown to Chinese people. Just ask a Chinese Christian how they survive each day. Ask a Chinese person who yearns for democracy. It is a well established human reality, and the Chinese know the needs of survival quite well.

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  8. This is what Washington DC politics does not understand and has never understood: “The Art of the Deal.” They know nothing about the business world except to accept graft from them. Now, the nation that wrote “The Art of War” finds itself out-foxed by a leader the likes of which the entire world has never met.

    So, what do the career politicians – who in a hundred years have never come close to anything like this and in another hundred years never could – want to do? Impeach him, of course. 🙄

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    • Publius2016 says:

      Sun Tzu was not a Communist! Great Mind based on Win Win!! 45 builds on prior knowledge and advances brilliance!!!

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    • Newt Love says:

      > “… Now, the nation that wrote “The Art of War” finds itself out-foxed by a leader the likes of which the entire world has never met.”

      PDJT? He’s just a real estate businessman from Queens, NY.
      /sarc
      Can’t wait for the metric butt-loads of “Whoop A$$” to be unleashed at the G-20!

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  9. Ghost says:

    Observations from a smaller limb.

    Another item I’ll be focused on at the G-20 is the order in which PDJT meets with the other countries. One on one meetings or small groups of three should be telling as to what is next on PDJT priority list.

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    • ristvan says:

      Very good observation, Ghost.

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    • Newt Love says:

      It simply amazes me how the (D) heads of House Committees think that they can out-think, out-strategize, or out-hustle PDJT, After 2.5 years of PDJT, they still have no clue to the high-IQ and highly-active intellect that took Trump Enterprises from $35B, is now running the country, with resources and personnel that any real estate executive could only dream of.

      LET THE POWER OF DONALD JOHN BE FULLY UNLEASHED!

      The coup attempters will be imprisoned.
      America will ROAR economically!
      The (D) Party will be out of power for multiple decades.
      Liars will learn to hold their tongues.
      Politicians will return to respecting their constituents.

      Maybe that last one is just a pipe dream, but I’m betting on the others!

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  10. Mncpo(ret) says:

    I will reiterate this, posted a few days ago: China’s economy is a mile wide but an inch thick. If you cannot feed or fuel your country, you are F’d, period. They stole, compromised, hacked every idea that they turned into profit and our past Presidents supported them. China and their cohorts internationally exfiltrated trillions from us.

    OOPS-Trump. She was supposed to win.

    It was NOT supposed to come to this. Premier for “Life” has got to be a little shaken by the circumstances.

    The G-20 meeting just puts an exclamation point on this. Publicly losing face is a death sentence. Crashing the economy is a death sentence. Chose wisely XI.

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  11. Elric VIII says:

    There is a word for this in chess: “zugzwang” – a situation in which the obligation to make a move in one’s turn is a serious, often decisive, disadvantage.

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  12. emet says:

    I get the feeling that Obama will show up in Beijing any moment for a meeting and a lucrative speech

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    • desperatelyseekingmelania says:

      If you think Obama directed uniparty hacks aren’t already advising China on how to counter Trump, then I have some real estate opportunities I’d like you to look at

      But the thing is, they don’t know how to counter Trump any better than the Chi-coms do

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      • WES says:

        Desperate: If you are truly desperate, I have some Consolidated Moose Pasture to trade you!

        P.S. Very swampy!

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      • trialbytruth says:

        And they have given such good advice/s I think they have been advising Venezuela.

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        • WES says:

          Trial: Based upon my experiences, the Socialists in Venezuela do not need our help!

          They are doing a much better job of destroying their country than we ever could!

          They are doing such a great job look at who they call friends! Russia, China, and Cuba!

          So let us just eave them to it!

          Cc: Bolton

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  13. 335blues says:

    I do not wish the chinese people ill, but the single biggest thing for stability in the world today
    would be for the chinese communst party to collapse and fall from power.
    However, that is a huge wish. Even if Xi lost power, the CCP would probably survive.
    But it would be a good first step.

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    • ristvan says:

      The CCP collapsing is unlikely. But IMO regime collapse is never a preferred foreign policy outcome (unless already in an outright shooting was like against the Axis where the victor fills the vacuum) ecause ‘Nature abhors a vacuum’ and what follows could be worse. The Ancien Regime collapsed in the French Revolution, but the result was Napoleon and the Napoleonic Wars.

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    • Daniel says:

      Quick question if I may? Is there “another party” in China? I mean one that hasn’t taken refuge outside of China?

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      • ristvan says:

        Definitive answer: NO. The ‘other party’ fled to Taiwan in 1949.

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        • Nordic Breed says:

          Correct, ristvan. However, that does not preclude an overthrow of some kind led by an unknown (to us) person. For all of us who have been praying for an end to communism, especially for Chinese communism, we know that God’s ways are not man’s ways, and that He will raise up the right person, just as He raised up PDJT for us. Who could have predicted the implosion of Russian communism and the fall of the Berlin wall? St. John Paul II had a lot to do with that which is why the commies tried to kill him. I sincerely hope for freedom for the Chinese people – life, liberty, and property.

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          • WES says:

            Nordic: I think Ristvan’s point is that should Xi be replaced, it would more likely be someone currently in the CCP who is more ruthless than Xi!

            Think Stalin replacing Lenin!

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        • G. Willikers says:

          China could very well break up into different states, much as it was before Emperor Chin united the warring states and much as the Soviet Union broke up.

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    • Sassy says:

      It won’t collapse. Not now, anyway. Maybe in many tens of years from now.
      The Party has absolute control over its citizenry through the Social Credit System where surveillance through a multitude of means is thoroughly omnipresent, and I mean everywhere.

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  14. Publius2016 says:

    No respect for intellectual property…No private property either only land leases…and yet, all the MultiNationals demand cheap Chinese Labor, Chinese Manufacturing, and Chinese Financing…INSANITY!

    who believes Huwaui developed 5G??? no one not even Nokia!

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  15. starfcker says:

    Lots and lots of great points in your article, Sundance. Here’s another good one. China has been bullying everybody in the region for a long time. Everyone else is going to enjoy this too. China’s problems are their opportunities. This is masterclass stuff.

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  16. desperatelyseekingmelania says:

    It could get bad enough in China for Xi to be deposed even if he doesn’t cave in to PDJT’s demands. That’s what he has to weigh. You certainly won’t hear in the MSM how badly China’s economy is already being damaged, let alone what may be to come. All I hear about is “Trump’s trade war,” as if he started it. Makes me want to puke.

    Maintaining the hard line through the election, if it comes to that, may not have too many political consequences. It puts the Democrat nominee in the position of either having to take a pro China anti US stance, or of admitting that PJDT is doing the right thing. I don’t see a great deal of middle ground between the two. The D nominee just standing there saying “I’m for free trade and no tariffs” isn’t going to cut it. Unless the electorate is already so stupid that there’s nothing that can save us anyway.

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  17. Bone Fish says:

    G20 looks like the perfect window for Brennen’s deep state pals to launch distracting shock-n-awe, false flag terror attacks.

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  18. mutantbeast says:

    Red China CANNOT survive w/o western factores there. The commies will never allow there own people to be sucessfull unless they are willing to give most of there wealth to the govt. Many companies that are not coming to the US from China are relocating to other SE Asian countries like Vietnam, Taiwan Malaysia or South Korea. Let Beijing starve, nothing would be better for commies than to have there own citizens turn on them.

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  19. Daniel says:

    President Xi just ended his presidency. Who’s next?

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  20. ristvan says:

    An interesting related observation. China and its proxy Hongkong leadership blinked yesterday on their proposed Hong Kong/China extradition law, after a million protested Tuesday(?).
    Xi just hit a very public limit on his power and influence. Has got to have Xi thinking about what happens with a tanked economy from a US trade war he cannot win in the midst of an African Swine Fever epidemic his government failed to control, in the midst of a huge real estate bubble that could take down his domestic banking system.

    I suspect there will be a whole lot more blinking before the 2020 election.

    In chess analogy terms, PDJT spent the last two plus years maneuvering his pieces to set up the board for the middle game. The middle game has begun, where most pieces are lost or sacrificed to set up the endgame (agree to draw, concede by tipping the king over, or checkmate). Very good players draw or concede well before checkmate (unless playing a computer game that doesn’t know how to do the first two). We shall see how good Xi is at metaphorical chess.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Was just going to post a blurb about Hong Kong and how that’s another “lose-lose” situation for Xi.

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      • WES says:

        L4: Just to reinforce Ristvan’s point above there is nothing special about Hong Kong except for it’s laws!

        Without trust in it’s laws, Hong Kong would cease to exist overnight!

        This is a point communists don’t understand!

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    • Esperanza says:

      Interesting discussion about that here.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      It could go the other way as well for Hong Kong, ristvan.
      When Xi’s economy tanks even more, which it will, Xi will need cash, fast. Where to find loads of cash fast?
      Hong Kong.
      China is a communist country. Communists take over the means of production, including the production of making money. Almost no one anywhere makes money better than those in Hong Kong.
      Goodbye Hong Kong

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    • Wit's End says:

      It is harder to leave home at 30 than 18.
      China and Mexico were given fair warning.
      They profited on corruption.
      Both have always despised us.
      “You are rich, we are poor, give us money.”
      Not a tear shed here.

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  21. highdezertgator says:

    “The Chinese culture doesn’t even have a frame of reference for a position that includes ‘less losing’ amid better options.”
    ‘less losing” or ‘downside’…. they cannot fathom the ‘downside’ …. Chicom culture does not allow opposing views that may actually provide solutions!
    As we know PDJT45 is the “Master of the Downside” … as he often says “We’ll see what happens!!”

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  22. TheLastDemocrat says:

    Another way for Xi to save face, to some degree: The Party demands that he meet with Trump.
    This moves it from being his preference or choice, and reinforces the idea that The Party is far stronger than any Comrade filling a position in the Party apparatus.

    In my opinion, this is an optimal time in history to straighten things out with China. We should not miss the opportunity. They will not any time soon roll over and respect IP. This will not happen anytime soon.

    Going along with China – offering Stick and Carrot and them acting like they are accepting Carrot – prolongs their shenanigans, their gamesmanship.

    They have one Ace in the Hole – war with someone else to ease their economic pain – and that WILL NOT work well, on the international stage. They have already gone so far down the road of attempting to behave as if they were a modern, civil country, what with all of this signing on with the Global Warming and everything, that they risk an incredible amount by showing themselves to be ruthless and to be holding no concern for international civility. AND, they will lose that war. AND will have their version of Emperor MacArthur guiding a phalanx of American Civil Servants in redefining China from the ground-up.

    While on the topic, my belief is that this is the Plan for Iran. China is now isolated. They have to begrudgingly join the Free World. No more Training Wheels or Free Ride from USA. Trump now has the same approach regarding Iran. Once Iran’s Support Systems (USA Uniparty, NK, Russia, France, Germany, etc.) are cut off, Iran has no legs. Iran is the fuel for the fire of unrest between “Palestine” and Israel.

    If we can overcome these two major Own-Goals, this international Munchausen’s-By-Proxy obsession, we can then get on with the actual, genuine work of federal politics and international diplomacy.

    In related news, I am kind of upset that Trump quickly accepted some compromise with Mexico. Again, Mexico needs to hit bottom and hit bottom hard. They are riddled with corruption to such an extent that there really is not a government there to negotiate with. They carry on day to day because they are suckling off of the USA, with the drugs and the money sent home to Mexico by their people working here in USA. We need a neighbor we can work with.

    Frustrating to see. But the good news is that we are greatly moving in the right direction on all three fronts.

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    • ristvan says:

      Disagree on Mexico. We want USMCA. Do not want them hit so hard that fails.

      And in truth, the illegal alien invasion was NOT not Mexico’s fault. As PDJT has said concerning trade, not their fault, it was ours.

      Their people sought a better life. We made that easy with an open border and no wall. Reagan granted amnesty. Obama granted DACA. Consequences unless you were caught in a major crime were nil. Remittances flowed with US help. Erroneously defined birthright citizenship Anchor kids got free schooling and welfare and healthcare forced by US courts.

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    • Morris Cook says:

      Does anyone connect the recent Iran attacks as China controlled?

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    • Esther says:

      If the CCP has to step in to save face for Xi, he still loses face as the leader of the CCP. That’s not a comfortable place for him to be, to get his arse saved by his subordinates. Xi will meet with Trump, but will try to pull a stunt to make Trump lose face. He is going to move his battle ground to the G20 meeting itself, and try to pull a stunt there. In the meantime, he’s cracking the whip on our congress and our business elite to do his bidding.

      In the meantime Walmart, Costco, Amazon and all the other big corporations, plus the US congress, China paid lobbyist and the MSM will be attacking Trump lamenting how tariffs are affecting them. Trump will win of course, but Xi is not rolling over without using his proxies to do damage control for his lost of face.

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  23. Its a complicated business. Thankfully Sundance helps me understand it.

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    • MAJA says:

      It is complicated! PDJT has excellent ,supernatural even, instincts and understanding of people, the components of the deal, and is so creative that he puts together opportunities and synergies that are astounding. He’s patient. He allows each one of these high-stakes deals to mature at their own pace and adjusts as needed, whether it be taunting congress for being do-nothings, or the trade deals, or the structural changes to some of our most restrictive regulations (the healthcare change announced yesterday!). He does what he can with what he has, but he is the maestro making it all happen.

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  24. Michael Hennessy says:

    And George Will calls our support for the President “Crybaby Conservatism!”

    This from a man who profited enthusiastically from 30 years of do nothing conservatism!

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Will is the poster child for the term “fake conservative”.

      He voted for Hillary in 2016. Said he hoped she won all 50 states.

      In 2018 midterms, he vocally wanted the Dems to take both chambers of Congress.

      Plus…of course…he’s an atheist.

      I despise George Will as much as any Leftist.

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  25. History Teaches says:

    Geopolitical existential gamesmanship unlike anything else in decades. China painted into a corner with no ‘face saving’ exit.

    No exaggeration, that the near and not so distant future of world alignment is at stake.

    If China has no vocabulary for concession, the President should double down on that. He holds the leverage and the moral high ground.

    Islam and Chinese ideology are the life threatening diseases of the present and need to be thoroughly confronted and dissipated for history to evolve rather than regress.

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    • tarstarkas says:

      Don’t want the Han Empire cornered. Don’t want to find out how destructive they might be if they think they have nothing to lose. You always want to give the opponent an avenue of retreat. and I think that avenue runs through Xi. I think Xi may be forced out for having lost the Mandate of Heaven and his successors will be more willing to compromise.

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      • MAJA says:

        Xi needs to publicly demand a meeting with PJDT to save face and then hope like hell that there’s anything left to be salvaged. Whether they find a way to get to the table is critical. One has hope and i don’t even want to think about the other.

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  26. slowcobra says:

    Two things:
    -I have spent most of my career either on campus at U of Michigan, or in its local research corridor, surrounded by chinese students (undergrad to PhD candidates).
    So what would the consequence be if PDJT suspended (china) student visas? Could he do that? What grounds? Would it be helpful along the lines of compromising, hacking, and stealing intellectual property? Would it be along the lines of ‘enough is enough’? I once had a chinese co- worker who said he had to write a book (molecular type) for the “stupid Americans” (but I digress).

    -when is G20 summit? (sorry if I missed that somewhere)

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    • rvsueandcrew says:

      June 28-29, 2019 in Osaka. Duck duck go is your friend and mine.

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    • Shadrach says:

      He could, but part of the reason there are so many Chinese in some fields is that there isn’t enough incentive for non-Chinese to enter them. The US doesn’t grant its scientists the same pay and more importantly respect that the Chinese do. We incentivize marketing and business studies, and they incentivize STEM fields.

      So we end up with a whole lot of Chinese in STEM fields, and if we don’t take them, the colleges can’t carry out research, and they collapse. I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. Having a $200,000 student loan debt to teach kindergarten is just stupid, and we incentivize that illogical thinking. Culling our universities and making sure only the best can attend would help stop that.

      But if you want to know why we have this problem…at least in part it’s because we pay basketball players 10x the salary and infinitely more reverence than we do our nuclear physicists.

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      • Sunshine says:

        I completely 100% agree with all you say.
        Sports or Athletics shouldn’t even be a consideration for college/university admission.

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      • slowcobra says:

        Good points.
        U of M also has to fulfill equal opportunity education though, so I know that’s one thing that stops them (and other lib universities) from making sure only the best attend.

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  27. El Torito says:

    Trump shrong Xi YUGELY.

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  28. James W Crawford says:

    Does Xi unerstand how The (Next) Persian Gulf War that is just starting is going to utterly screw China’s economy? (Read THE ABSENT SUPERPOWER by Peter Zeihan) The acting Secretary of Defense just sent a message that this time the US is NOT going to protect everyone’s oil tankers. This is the result of the US being energy independant again. We don’t care because we don’t have to. The US MIGHT help Japan, South Korea and Taiwan protect their oil tankers if they reflag their ships to become American tankers and refuse to ship oil to China. China does have an impressive navy but its ships do not have the range or logistical support to deploy to the Persian Gulf anytime soon. By the time China can deploy to protect its tankers, the combination of Trump’s sanctions and lack of oil will have reduced the Chinese to eating grass.

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  29. A2 says:

    The reliable entity, Hu Xijin, Global CCP Times has spoken.

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂

    Hu Xijin 胡锡进
    @HuXijin_GT
    Qiushi magazine, Chinese Communist Party’s official publication, will join public opinion struggle against the US with a heavyweight article being published soon. It’s a further mobilization of Chinese society. Capitulators are being under collective criticism of official media

    Response to 300bln in tariffs? A White Paper, response to more tariffs an article. Note the term ‘capitulators’. 😂

    Now that Chairman Xi Mao 2.0 has cut off his nose and shot himself in both feet, he may have to go to hospital. Let’s send him condolences. I suggest the US ban his Party/State from issuing ant IPOs.
    Have a nice day.

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  30. Bigly says:

    Good friend …AND golf partner, lol

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  31. kurt72 says:

    Red China is financing the leftist scum in media and government. Treason.

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  32. TreeClimber says:

    Xi has got to be feeling a noose… or bullet, or whatever they use in China these days…

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  33. Bigly says:

    Sundance , et al…

    With pressures mounting, what are the potential sidewinders that may cause this powder keg to blow up? You know trump is thinking of them – what are they? Proxy Iran? Force us into a war to distract?

    Just asking…

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    • Esther says:

      Bigly, I keep saying Trump’s corrupt House and Senate will pull some stunts, the CoC and big corporations will whine about how harmful tariffs are, and the MSM will have 24 hour mockingbird coverage on Trump’s mental health. Its the old playbook, same characters with slightly different lines. Xi’s biggest allies are not other countries, its our own elected officials who’ve been in bed with the chicoms for decades, and the lobbyist. The NeverTrumpers and big business have been activated for this one.
      They won’t win, but they’ll give it a damn good try.

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  34. A2 says:

    What is so gobsmackingly obvious is that Xi has lost and doesn’t even realise it. But that is what happens to wannabe dictators. To bad he put himself at the head of the parade to nowhere. Don’t look back Xi, you may find no one there.

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    • Shadrach says:

      Hi A2, I’d be curious as to what you think of my comment, right below, as you’re the resident expert. I do think Xi’s lost the battle, but I am not so sure China will lose the war….

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    • WES says:

      A2: Xi can always put on a big show parade but he has to use “force” and “fear” and that wastes a lot of energy/money!

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    • Stillwater says:

      I’m curious to what extent Xi/CCP have created their own information bubble because underlings are disincentivized to provide accurate info(economic stats/data or reports) that puts the Chinese system in a lesser/weaker light. So it may be difficult for the Chinese bureaucracy to get accurate date about their own state of affairs.

      Unless they perhaps have alternate information channels where underlings are encouraged(and not punished) for providing accurate info, in addition to the traditional channels for the inflated stats they provide their overseers for PR purposes (public consumption).

      Also, Chicom influenced senators and representatives probably inflate their own reports back to China as to how much control/influence/insight the former has in regard to President Trump and his future presidency(2020 election, etc.).

      After all, if China holds the dirt on these individuals, said individuals may be more likely to inflate their own importance or ability to influence events in the USA/world. (to prevent the release of compromising info &/or to justify the continued financial support from the chicoms)

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  35. Shadrach says:

    The thing that bothers me is that China has accumulated a vast supply of potential blackmail information. We need to be prepared (as I am sure PDJT is) for internal sabotage and other shady business. If you can’t win one way, and you can’t win another, there is always a third way, and the Chinese are long-term planners.

    They have all of HRC’s emails, and we don’t even know what was in them all. They have background investigation data (including data on relatives) for all Feds who held a clearance in 2014, medical data, travel data, etc. That’s bad enough, but we also have a government full of Resistards who wouldn’t need much incitement to do bad things….they are doing it already, without any added Chinese incentive.

    CCP has inroads into the WaPo, given their Chinese propaganda inserts in their paper newspapers…and who knows which other media outlets. They infiltrated Feinstein for the past 20 years…and she is on and has been on a boatload of relevant committees and sub-committees. And she’s just the one we know about..well, her and Amash.

    Well, it ain’t over until the fat lady sings…I hope they cut their losses and live to fight another day. If I were Xi, that’s what I’d do. After all, one of those blackmail-able Feds might be the President in a few years.

    References for most of what I mentioned above (except for Resistards, b/c that’s obvious) are below.

    https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/collusion-washington-post-busted-pushing-chinese-propaganda
    https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/committee-assignments
    https://www.fedsmith.com/2018/09/21/bolton-confirms-china-behind-opm-data-breaches/
    https://news.clearancejobs.com/2019/04/19/is-china-using-hacked-opm-data/
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/chinese-company-hacked-hillary-clintons-email-server-report

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    • A2 says:

      Hi. Off the top of my octagonal head I think it boils down to the difference between an open society, messy and contentious that it is and a closed society based on fear of repression. Blackmail works best in the latter. Xi and cronies have gone to great lengths to cover up their malfeasances, the Panama papers an example, as is the fact they need to expand their censorship globally to survive.

      The US and other representative democracies really are quite enured to it because of our institutions and access to redress in courts of law and civil society norms, no matter the profound differences in opinions. Vote the buggers out if they cross the line.

      Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

      There is politically a genuine bi-partisan consensus on the so-called China model. That doesn’t mean that stupidity, greed, narcissism, trickery that exists ultimately triumphs, because there exists all the virtues too.

      So blackmail is not a long term usable tool in an open society, it’s like trying to punch a marshmallow. Whereas in a closed, command and control society it is like shattering glass.

      As you may see in the Hu statement above he is revealing that the Party has to root out ‘capitulators’ meaning that they have a serious internal problem that threatens the survival of the CCP. More repression to create more fear.

      The Chinese have a saying,’cutting chives’ (割韭菜). They understand that just dealing with corrupt officials, or temporary measures,will not kill the base of of what is wrong with their system. Like cutting chives the plant regrows.

      Just my opinion.

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      • Shadrach says:

        I value your opinion. Thank you for responding.

        Punching a marshmallow. True.

        I knew a lot of Chinese…and frankly, I liked them. We shared a lot of values…family, education, saving for the future…and good cooking. They taught me some easy Chinese characters and some bad language 🙂 Your point is valid….it’s not just government vs government. People are involved. The one obvious Chinese gov’t plant (mole) in the place I worked was despised by the Chinese guys I worked with. I forgot about my old friends. Thank you for reminding me, and fingers crossed!!!!

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      • trialbytruth says:

        A 2 if you have time for one more question

        If Xi continues to be isolated and feels threatened,Will China put the military boot on Hong Kong’s Throat?

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        • A2 says:

          If you asked that question last week I would have been less sanguine. However what is truly remarkable is the Hong Kong protests and the condemnation across all sectors of society and economy in Hong Kong and the world, has let the CCP know they have painted themselves in a corner. Pretty hard for Xi to go and spout Globalism is good, we support peaceful development across the world, and stand up for international trade if they squash Hong Kong. People vote with their assets and dosh and Hong Kong is an international free trade hub.

          Even his membership in the dictators’ club will take a hit. Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang’s statement yesterday that China ‘supports, respects and understands’ suspension of Hong Kong extradition bill‘ and called the decision an attempt to “listen more widely to the views of the community and restore calm to the community as soon as possible”is a tactical retreat. BUT A RETREAT NONETHELESS.

          There must be a lot of grinding of teeth and finger pointing going on now in CCP HQ Zhongnanhai. So no for now.

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      • formerdem says:

        Yes, punching a marshmallow. I cannot be the only one hoping to jail a blackmailer before I die.

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  36. Pyrthroes says:

    Gad! So Trump is on-record as meditating this scenario from his late 30s, knowing full-well by Reagan’s first term that he would have to win the Presidency himself to grasp this nettle. This is not ambition, but radical self-confidence towards a septuagenarian’s extraordinarily generous, self-sacrificing end.

    Of course, there’s glory in this… but on Reagan’s plane of three-score years and ten, now Trump’s,
    the underlying theme is deadly serious: This American nation, the Framers’ “Great Republic”, pursues Lincoln’s “government of the people, by the people, for the people”, not some pusillanimous, weaselly li’l something-for-nothing collectivity beholden to a penultimately arrogant, inherently corrupt elitist clerisy for every unaborted, Single Payer breath we take.

    No wonder Hsi, Putin, gobbling EU kleptarchs from Juncker, Tusk, and Draghi’s Central Bankers down, stand aghast on realizing “There ain’t no fix for Trump.” Gangrenous is gone, guys– gone, and taken his vile anti-Semitic, black supremacist, taqiyya Muslump / “red diaper” Marxisant quota-baby lampreys with him. As for Bobbletwot, Wunderschlumpf, MzBill… tarnation bow-wows, we could’ve had a field day.

    Go get ’em, MAGA Man: USA! USA!

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  37. archie says:

    Why are people hoping for Xi to go away? Trump is dealing with a culture and removing 100 leaders is not going to change that. I’m not sure how the US can solve this problem short of dissolving trade with China and that would cause a massive shock wave through western economies. If that happens before the election Trump would lose.

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    • trialbytruth says:

      Really why? Please expound

      I have seen a 2 1/2 year push back of China a constant warning to industry to rethink and come back to the Us or find other sources. Xi, by tossing ultimatums at Industry just reinforced that message.

      Big Supply Contracts are based on after port pricing so China will be eating more tariifs and companies will continue to look elsewhere for a supply chain. There has been 2 and 1/2 years of Trump collaring business leaders and telling them publicly China was a bad bet.

      There will be winners and losers but the smart money is divested or at the very least has a road map out. Watch how fast it happens. Watch how fast the store shelves fill with other “Indo-Pacific” sourced good. Watch a cottage industry of small engine and electronic repair shops appear overnight.

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  38. WES says:

    Based upon my observations from past experiences living and working in communist countries, like Russia 1983, “total control” is the one thing the top dog in power worries about more than anything else. Once in power they constantly devote enormous energy towards staying in power.

    The reason this is so is because being a dictator, one sits on an inherinently unstable throne. The next snow flake always has the potential to cause an avalanche!

    Now if one is dictator of a communist regeme you add in a second risk! Socialism always makes the economic pie smaller. Thus you rune risk of running out of other people’s money!

    So as a communist dictator, you run two very big risks; staying in power, and not running out of money! Staying in power uses up a great deal of money in an increasingly unproductive manner!

    My theory, is a communist dictatorship has only about a three to four generation life expectancy before it completely exhausts it’s country’s existing wealth and collaspes.

    Now look at Xi’s current position.

    After 6 years he has finally consolidated his hold on power. Notice now he is expending enormous amounts of energy on staying in power. Now in power he is becoming more and more paranoid about staying in power! He is trying to increase his control over his people. Increased compliance with the CCP. People’s Social Credit Score. Increased censoring of the internet. New extradition law in Hong Kong. Silk and Roads to control the world. Xi’s situation is more important than his peoples!

    See a pattern? See Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Tito, etc. for the same pattern!

    With the introduction of outside “capitalism” in 1980s, limited to 49%, previous Chinese leaders were addressing the exhaustion of China’s existing wealth under Mao. Xi has inherited a China that has regained some wealth.

    However, Xi, being communist, is sitting atop a doubly unstable dictatorship throne; requiring total “control” at all costs, and an economic pie that is going to shrink so he can stay in power!

    Who says history doesn’t repeat!

    The Donald is making it ryh
    me!

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  39. trapper says:

    “President Trump is looking for an excuse to apply the scale of tariffs on China that will crush their U.S. export business…”

    And there you have it. The question is whether the communist regime can survive the collapse of its manufacturing base. The regime could drive China into poverty and starvation ala Venezuela, or there could be a second, and successful Tiananmen Square uprising, or such an uprising could be crushed so ruthlessly that it completely offends 21st Century sensibilities and China becomes a pariah state, or … I do not have enough information to make book on possible scenarios, but any way one comes at it, China as it now exists is over.

    Actually, if I was forced to put money down at this very moment, I would bet that the communist regime forces China to self-destruct rather than give up its absolute power, taking China over the cliff into poverty and oblivion as a new hermit slave state. North Korea writ large. That’s where my money would go. We shall see.

    And another two cents: I fully believe the destruction of the communist regime in China has always been the PDJT objective, the end game.

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    • L. E. Joiner says:

      If China were squeezed too hard, say with a collapsing economy and resource scarcity, the Party leadership could well decide that the only alternative is adventurism, war, and conquest. That could be a much bigger problem for us than making a fair deal that allows a modicum of support via trade (i.e. sell them energy and food). The question is how to convince them it’s in their interest, without causing too much loss of ‘face’. /LEJ

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      • Fubu says:

        As Jim Rickards always says, “currency wars (manipulation/devaluation) lead to trade wars (tariffs) lead to shooting wars.”

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  40. Newt Love says:

    After all of the abuse China has spewed on so many, (Tibet, the Dalai Lama, Taiwan, Hong Kong, the Chinese people), and China’s satellite proxies (N. Korea, …), well, “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.”

    Let the entire country self-destruct, like Venezuela, and then America and our allies can go in and help the Chinese people set up one of the many forms of democracy.

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    • 4EDouglas says:

      Bush 41 kowtowed to China after Tienanmen square. Trump is not Kowtowing..
      Isay again-China’s a house of cards. Keep an eye on Hong Kong and how Xi handles this.. I do not think it is as easy as he thinks it is..

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  41. bessie2003 says:

    This just seems like an extremely dangerous situation.

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  42. sarasotosfan says:

    The more immediate risk is not in China. It is the destabilizing of North Korea by China in an effort to counter Trump.

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    • TreeClimber says:

      The weaker China grows, the more they’ll grip that proxy state – and to (sort of) borrow a line from Princess Leia: “The more they tighten their grip, the faster it will slip through their fingers.” Kim wants out, and this might be his chance. The fact that his people practically worship him may actually help, if he can slip the leashes of his Chinese masters.

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  43. LandofLiberty says:

    Sundance, I take this opportunity to say thanks for a great article that we certainly agree with. Thanks for providing a platform and thanks for posting to that platform where many of us can go and see that others think much like ourselves.
    This is a great opportunity because it gives us a place to go to other than 99% which are click bait. For myself I even see TGP or Brietbart getting worse as the days go by. They seem to be wording the headlines to appeal to peoples anger. In my opinion everyone needs to begin weaning themselves away from those type sites. I say that because surely no one on here would watch MSN news or even Fox anymore (except for the 3 evening shows on Fox).
    This is where YOU (Sundance) comes in. I never have read an artice I don’t think where you have ever appealed to peoples anger. You post well researched articles and post them even through the weekend which in turn gives us Treepers a place to go to for news. Thanks again for a great article today

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  44. Esther says:

    North Korea will get help from South Korea. If Xi goes after Kim, he knows how to get protection from one very stable genius.
    NOT TIRED OF WINNING.

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  45. Jim in TN says:

    Seems odd. With all the talk of yin yang balance, they sure built an incredibly unbalanced economy.

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    • neal s says:

      I am reminded of what happens when a parasite takes too much from its host. Eventually the host will die and soon the parasite dies too. If it were not for our VSGPDJT taking charge, the Chinese parasite would have taken more and more from the US host until the US host would have collapsed and this would have been followed by the Chinese collapsing soon afterwards.

      Not being able to trade with China would be uncomfortable for the USA but we can survive without them. China not being able to trade with the USA would cripple them severely and could lead to their economic collapse.

      China would be smart to make the best fair deal they can with PDJT and work to become self-sufficient so that they would not depend so heavily on the USA in years to come.

      I don’t expect China to be that smart. We certainly do live in interesting times.

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  46. beaujest says:

    Put Chairman Xi Jinping in charge of illegal immigration in our country!

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  47. Bill Dumanch says:

    Correct, and on ALL counts. Thank goodness my “age and experience” is able to be used for good and not evil…

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  48. PVCDroid says:

    China in two weeks-
    After further review, we believe we can accommodate most of the conditions the US is proposing and succeed with greater international trade opportunities for China… Blah blah blah.
    But the initial negotiating team were not honorable with leadership so they will be repositioned in the next round of negotiations.
    Blah blah (off to the camps or shot) blah

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  49. Tiffthis says:

    This complicated business is beautiful to watch- even more so now that I understand it. 💯 Forever grateful to have found CTH, SD, menagerie and ad rem. Actually, special shout out to gramma as well- the open thread daily warrior prayers have pointed me towards God again.

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  50. “Donald J Trump has been talking about this for thirty years.”
    —-
    DJT absorbed the lessons China taught to our weak / craven ‘negotiators’. He internalized the problem. He pondered its complexity. He formulated his plans. He waited. After winning the WH, he lavishly hosted Xi at Mar-a-Lago. He has gathered an all-star team of financial Alphas to deal with the Chinese.

    And here we are.

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