May 20th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #851

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664 Responses to May 20th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #851

  1. Bogeyfree says:

    As I’ve said before there are two paths that I believe PT and AG Barr are going down.

    #1 – The Present – 2016-2019 – Russia Collusion Coup and Cover Up

    #2 – The Past – 2009-2015 – Spying on Americans

    It seems like Declass and the IG report will be the primary tools to expose the Present

    AG Barr IMO with the appointment of Durham and with the 85 page FISA report of abuse and with the 47 Hard Drives from whistleblower Dennis Montgomery and possible other whistleblowers will be the primary tools to expose the Past.

    They truly have the opportunity to run the gambit and expose it all.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Bogeyfree,
      That the FISC Court has completely accepted being misled, without taking any examination or punitive action, is conclusive evidence that this is an ethically-challenged court. The FISC court knows 85% of secret Spying is illegal. The FISC Court knows they are entrusted with protection of 4th Amendment Constitutional rights, because the spied-on defendants are not present to defend themselves from crooked government political overreach. They know they were lied to in the Carter Page warrant motion with false evidence that Carter Page was a foreign agent when he was an FBI/CIA spy. They know the pee pee dossier was unverified. They know that the FBI used spies Halper, Mifsud, “Turk” and others to spy on US Citizen Papadopolous, and gave him $10,000 so 7 FBI agents could arrest him even before customs, for bringing it into the country. The FISC Court knows Papadoc did not bring the planted $10K into the country, but still eas railroaded by illegal FBI scare tactics.
      Yet the FISC Court has done nothing. The FISC Court took the extraordinary step of APPROVING SECRET SPYING ON A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE without any due diligence. They likely approved spying on other candidates (even Bernie). They are a Star Chamber secret political court of the type the Founders tried to prevent.
      The FISC Court has inherent power to punish fraud on the court. It can compel testimony, fine, disbar from federal court practice, and even imprison for fraud on the court.
      The sleazy behavior of the FISC Star Chamber is the most dangerous problem of Constitutional corruption revealed by PDJT so far. Because it is “secret” (and court proceedings are generally required to be public), and because there is no representation of the degendents who are she subjects of spying, the FISC court has an extreme duty to be diligent on protecting the 4th Amendment rights of the secret, unknowing defendants. If the FISC court was honest, there would be no Page 2-hop spy warrants to the Trunp campaign, and those who presented the falsified motion would be disbarred, fined, and/or imprisoned. The 85% illegal 4th Amendment violations the FISC court fully knows about would be punished, those government officials responsible would be prosecuted, and the “illegally-spying-contractors” would be prosecuted and barred from any further government contracts of any kind, and put out of government business. But this FISC court does not go “by the book”.
      An honest FISC court is the check-and-balance designed to stop this kind of corruption. The FISC court has an EXTREME constitutional responsibility to protect against secret spying, and unjustifiable political spying, which violates the 4th Amendment. The FISC Court COMPLETELY failed. It did not question the propriety of spying by government officials who “hate” PDJT (as the FISC COurt likely does also as obama appointees). Now that there is public evidence of fraud on the FISC court, it has not called the perpetrators of fraud on the FISC court to account. It is still completely failing in its constitutional responsibilities. All the FISC judges who did not attempt to investigate and punish this fraud on the FISC Court and massive 85% illegal, criminal spying on US Citizens, should be impeached. Rather than talking about impeaching PDJT for being spied on, congress should impeach the FISC court for dereliction of constitutional duty.

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      • Zorro says:

        Kim Strassel’s speech, linked by Sundance the other day, makes the point about the FISC dereliction of duty and that it is a much underreported aspect of the whole spygate scandal.

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        • Beau Geste says:

          She is absolutely right. Thanks for pointing that out. Hopefully Kimberly Strassel will propose the necessity for impeachment of the incompetent or complicit FISC court.

          The FISC is the key, most important structural bulwark against illegal and political spying by a politicized DOJ/FBI gestapo. The FISC court clearly failed (didn’t even try !!), and clearly never even attempted to correct their failure by withdrawing the illegally-obtained spying warrants sua sponte as improvidently granted, and punishing/disbarring the perpetrators of fraud on their court.

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        • L_Dave says:

          If you were going to unlawfully spy on Americans, who would you spy upon first? FISA judges comes to mind. They may be as compromised as anyone.

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      • KnowSERENoFear says:

        Excellent points! Note the low bar for impeachment of judges (good behavior)…much lower than required for the Executive (high crimes/misdemeanors).

        US Constitution, Article III, Section 1

        “The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.”

        The reality though, is impeachment of judges resides in the Legislature who currently lack the political will and are comprised mainly of lawyers who will not eat their own.

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      • KnowSERENo Fear says:

        Additionally, Federal courts are NOT enumerated the power to authorize the violation of the 4th Amendment (particular the right to know one’s accuser and the particular accusation). Nor are ALL Americans within their jurisdiction. Nor can they come to this opinion without a jury.

        US Constitution, Article III, Section 2

        1: The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;—between a State and Citizens of another State;10 —between Citizens of different States, —between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

        3: The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

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        • Beau GEste says:

          Amen. So, why aren’t any Repubs or “journalists” calling for impeachment of the FISC Court for “bad behavior”? Do they hope the FISC court will come to its senses? Are they afraid of the secret Staar Chamber Fisc court, which likely approves spying on journalists like sharyl atkisson, and congresscritters?

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          • KnowSERENoFear says:

            IMHO because this is beyond “Repubs or journalists. “This” is merely a continuation of a common theme: the elite/entitled (AKA Globalists/Socialist/ruling class) against the common folk (Serfs).

            In particular, there are a couple things about our Republic that really pi$$es them off:

            1. “…that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…”

            2. Our Constitution begins with: “We the People.”

            And then just about everything else within the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. 😉

            “Do they hope the FISC court will come to its senses?” I think they hope we hope the FISC court will come to it’s senses. They bank on our complacency, ignorance, and our addiction to government control along with our devotion to a unified MSM narrative of propaganda and misinformation.

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      • Maquis says:

        John Roberts could not be troubled to comment.

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      • Ackman420 says:

        Very difficult to read the big block of text. It might be a word press thing, which is unfortunate because I’d like to read your post.

        Cheers anyways.

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    • jx says:

      re #1 – those crimes were committed in order to prevent candidate Trump from becoming the nominee, from being elected, and to unseat him – AND – to protect Clinton from prosecution. This last item is being ignored.

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      • Debra says:

        The last item ‘would’ have been used had Hillary won the election, but prior to an inauguration, such that the then-current occupier of the WH would have been compelled to stay put, due to the ‘suddenly evidenced’ Constitutional crisis that the U.S. was experiencing in voting for someone whom foreign entities had such a hold over . . .

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      • Beau Geste says:

        Those crimes were committed with the assistance of the FISC court, in violation of its constitutional duty. And continued refusal to repair, correct and punish fraud on the FISC court confirms the FISC complicity. The FISC court should have examined and never granted spying on a presidential campaign. The FISC Court should have immediately withdrawn the spy warrants when it learned theat there was fraud on the court. The FISC court never asked the DOJ/FBI perps to report to the courthouse to explain why they used an unverified pee pee dossier they knew was generated by hillary clinton/DNC, claimed that carter page was a dangerous foreign spy when he was an FBI/CIA “asset”, and gave george papadoc $10K to try to entrap him bringing it back with 7 FBI agents at the airport in advance of customs. The FISC court never asked
        “have you notified candidate Trump about your unsupported claims about carter page and george Papadoc?”
        “Why is 85% of your spying illegal? Why doesn’t the DOJ/FBI prosecute the 85% illegal spying, find out who is paying ‘contractors’ to do illegal spying, prosecute them and these ‘contractors”, and block them from all further government contracts as required by law ?
        “Have you notified candidate trump about the wiretap the FISC court already issued on General Flynn? ”
        “are you certain the pee pee dossier is verified?”
        “has there been any previous spying on the Trump campaign using paid fbi/cia assets such as halper, mifsud, “turk”?

        If the FISC Court did its job, there would be no 2-jump page spying on the entire Trump campaign, and those who committed fraud on the FISC court would be fined and disbarred, at a minimum.

        The FISC should be impeached for violation of its constitutional responsibilities to protect the 4th Amendment.

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  2. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Paging FOX and Chris Wallace. Did you ask about this?

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  3. Dora says:

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  4. Zippy says:

    Better tittle – The Surkov Connection

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  5. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  6. Troublemaker10 says:

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  7. trishinsouthernillinois says:

    This was from May 14th….VERY PRO TRUMP show. You won’t hear this POV on the “news.” must see. Lance Walnau on how fantastic our president is!

    https://jimbakkershow.com/watch/?guid=3694

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  8. Ilcon says:

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  9. joeknuckles says:

    Funny how Amash didn’t come out for impeachment until after things heated up with China.

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  10. joeknuckles says:

    Justin Amash, the “libertarian” who is in favor of police State tactics being used against political campaigns and against holding those who abuse their power accountable.

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  11. CM-TX says:

    Passing on (c/o Reddit T_D)

    The Media really is the enemy of the people… they’ve also been coordinating with a Domestic Terrorist Org:

    https://flagandcross.com/confirmed-reporters-from-big-name-liberal-outlets-found-to-have-working-ties-with-antifa/

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  12. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    John Durham Appointment | Still Standing with Michael Caputo 022

    https://www.stillstandingpodcast.com/

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  13. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    https://www.stillstandingpodcast.com/podcast/episode/fff1cd9a/the-2020-elections-unique-issues-episode-34

    Michael Caputo|5/17/2019
    Topics: I’ll break down the three unusual issues that will define the 2020 race … All that and much, much more!

    https://www.stillstandingpodcast.com/

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  14. Ilcon says:

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  15. grandmotherpatriot says:

    My concern is Holder and Obama Redistricting for 2020 Election.
    https://democraticredistricting.com/
    These two will stop at nothing to taint an Election.

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  16. Ilcon says:

    2.8 million followers.

    Bazzing

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  17. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  19. Troublemaker10 says:

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  20. Zippy says:

    Probably another SpyGate, but most likely a full UniPart effort because of his dislike of NAFTA although Perot, at one time leading in the polls, offered the geratest threat to the Rep party:

    Opposition Research Group

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_Research_Group

    The Opposition Research Group refers to the division within the Republican National Committee formed in 1984 with its own budget of $1.1 million, to create a master data bank of computerized voter research and opposition research. These staff amassed information on eight Democratic presidential candidates based on data from voting records, Congressional Record speeches, media clippings and transcripts, campaign materials, all of which was stored on a computer for easy access. In this way the party was able to track inconsistencies of its opponents and attack them. This original data base evolved into a network that linked information gleaned by Republicans in all 50 states, creating a master data base accessible to high-ranking Republican staff, even aboard Air Force One when Ronald Reagan was president. [1]

    In the 1992 presidential election, independent candidate Ross Perot repeatedly accused the Republicans of “dirty tricks” and spying on him, but Republicans dismissed Perot’s accusations as a “paranoid fantasy.” At the time, David Tell, who headed the O.R.G. at the time said, “Mr. Perot is suggesting we are sitting here in the middle of this great spider web, calling newspaper reporters and planting these things, and that is baloney.”[2]

    Giant sucking sound

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_sucking_sound

    The “giant sucking sound” was United States presidential candidate Ross Perot’s phrase for what he believed would be the negative effects of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which he opposed.

    In the second 1992 Presidential Debate, Ross Perot argued:

    We have got to stop sending jobs overseas. It’s pretty simple: If you’re paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers and you can move your factory South of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, … have no health care—that’s the most expensive single element in making a car— have no environmental controls, no pollution controls and no retirement, and you don’t care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going south. … when [Mexico’s] jobs come up from a dollar an hour to six dollars an hour, and ours go down to six dollars an hour, and then it’s leveled again. But in the meantime, you’ve wrecked the country with these kinds of deals.[1]

    Perot ultimately lost the election, and the winner, Bill Clinton, supported NAFTA, which went into effect on January 1, 1994.

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    • CM-TX says:

      I’d like to see the so-called feminists put their effort where it might actually benefit… like perhaps a movement behind Mooslim women, encouraging them to break free from their oppression.

      Educating them about certain Rights afforded them under our Constitution. That the oppressed lifestyle forced upon them is in direct conflict with existing Laws. And that these laws are there to protect them…

      Imagine the possibilities.😏

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      • Beau Geste says:

        The right not to be stoned (not like in colorado), or be subjected to forced clitorectomy? How could that be an issue for feminists who want control of their bodies to have “post-birth” abortions (eg, murder)

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      • Maquis says:

        The only potential Islamic reform effort that has any chance of success, short of carpet nuking much of the planet.

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  21. CM-TX says:

    They should’ve known they had it coming… & that time is NOW:
    😈

    https://republicanlegion.com/product/the-punisher-trump-pack/

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  22. Carrie says:

    The US isn’t the only country that punishes those on the right more strictly than the left (Smollet or Rosie O’Donnell anyone?)

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  23. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  24. hard masada says:


    From TFN ~~~> Mark ‘I am’ Cuban ~~>enuff said

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  25. Ilcon says:

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  26. wtd says:

    ‘Mr Steele decided it was his obligation – his national duty – to alert the British Government about what he had found’

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    • Concerned Virginian says:

      Yeah, right. So NOW Mr. Steele decides to wrap himself in the Union Jack.
      Here’s what most likely what happened to produce this “Come to Jesus” moment—
      Steele saw that the Black Hats co-conspirators in the United States (BRENNAN, CLAPPER et al) starting to throw each other under the bus as THEY began to realize that the walls are closing in and there is a large red target on their backs, courtesy of the CLINTONMACHINE.
      Steele has figured it out that HE TOO is “Collateral Damage” to Hillary Clinton.

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    • wtd says:

      So Brits are spinning that they took seriously a laughably ridiculous dossier that Trump accurately called “fake” and “phony.” What does this tell us about British intel? What does it tell us about Trump? What does it tell us about journalists who peddle these claims?

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    • Sprawlie says:

      Article is behind a paywall. Luckily, this reddit comment has the full article from the Telegraph:

      A big spin piece to suggest that the Brits didn’t know anything about Steele, the dossier, or spying on the Trump campaign until after the election. Suuuure. They’re panicked, Bigly!

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  27. Great article from Victor Davis Hanson about the usual suspects- “He did it not me”.

    https://amgreatness.com/2019/05/19/he-did-it-not-me/

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  28. wtd says:

    Polling reveals the Brexit Party is set to win more votes than pro-Remain parties combined in the European elections

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  29. Dora says:

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  30. blognificentbee says:

    It’s RALLY DAY! Wish I was there. Saw this picture on The_Donald of a guy in line! Any Treepers in line? If so, please report in!

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  31. Brant says:

    In the US/China trade spat, can our host discuss and assuage concerns over a Chinese halt of rare earths? I recall an essay some months ago. Does US have a quantity of rare earths to mine? I have been wondering if China will use that as their wild card. Thanks.

    Apologies if concern is unfounded.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      There are significant rare earth minerals elsewhere, including the US and major new finds in Japan waters. However, extraction from the minerals is difficult, and potentially polluting in the absence of expensive clean-up procedures. So, we buy refined rare earth metals from china, and even ship ore to china for refining, where they don’t care that much about pollution. So they can refine the minerals much more cheaply. There is a cost to avoiding environmental poisioning, but available raw materials.

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    • Maquis says:

      We have lots to mine, but lots of eco-freaks to bulldoze first.

      Australia has lots, including large new disvoveries.

      Africa has lots, and might decide to resist Chinese colonialism, someday…

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    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      Deep waters off shore of Japan have enough to fill a canyon. They are serious and industrious people so they will soon figure out how to access them profitably. We also have plenty but the leftist and their gangsters in black robes probably would never allow them to be accessed.

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    • Brant says:

      Thanks a lot for all the helpful info.

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    • WRB says:

      The US has plenty of rare earths, but the enviromentals in CA shutdown all the mines ten or twenty years ago. So it is a question of regulations and law suits rather than lack of resources.

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  32. Ilcon says:

    World is rejecting the communists. This reporter is reporting truth.

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  33. Ilcon says:

    Amash doubles down.

    I urge you read the thread and replies.

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    • fanbeav says:

      Unfortunately this is about the China tariffs that are hurting his slush fund company where he rakes in millions! I am so sick of the GOPe outrage for anything President Trump. Where were they when Obama’s administration was knee deep in Fast and Furious, IRS Targeting, Benghazi, Uranium One, HIllary’s secret server!

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    • iswhatitis says:

      Well, that was a waste of time..

      (I completely missed what was so “urgent” about reading it. The usual TDS drivel, that’s everyplace the usual TDS drivel is, is all that I saw. Maybe I didn’t scroll thru enough of it to find the honey – but after several pages of same, I gave up..)

      /shrug

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      • Ilcon says:

        Where is “urgent”?
        The maggot is lying throughout his thread.
        The replies are all from his communist comrades.

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        • iswhatitis says:

          Ilcon says: “Where is “urgent”?

          You said, “I urge you read the thread and replies. “. So, I originally said, “urge’ent” but that seemed to contract into “urgent”; so that’s what I used… 🙂

          Ilcon says: “The maggot is lying throughout his thread. The replies are all from his communist comrades.

          IOW, like I had said, the usual TDS drivel. 🙂

          Don’t take my opinion too harshly. It’s JMO. Besides, I gave you a kudo on your previous post, so it evens out. 🙂

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    • TexanInFL says:

      He is screwed and he knows it.

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    • Justin Green says:

      Apparently his Twitter comments appear to be 100% FOR him. Can you delete or clean up your Twitter feed?

      I didn’t see anyone calling BS on his idiocy.

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  34. aisheschayal says:

    Excuse me Kirsten Gillsinabind, do not speak for any upstate city, town or other! We will not willingly take the illegal migrants into our upstate NY cities!!!!

    “Gillibrand said New York would welcome the migrant families: “We would be delighted to take refugee families into cities like Buffalo and Syracuse and Rochester and Albany,” she said.”

    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/gillibrand-opposes-detention-migrants-ny-cities-would-be-delighted-take

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  35. lawton says:

    Joe DiGenova today said that Judge Contreras signed a FISA related to all this mess. I assume it was the one on General Flynn since he finally recused himself on that case.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      IIRC, contreras (a 2011 obama appointee) did not recuse himself – he “was recused” from the flynn case. In April 2016 Chief Justice John Roberts appointed Contreras to the FISC for a term starting May 19, 2016.

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  36. wtd says:

    JUST IN: Researchers say they’ve uncovered a coordinated campaign on Instagram to undermine Trump http://hill.cm/06eqtFP

    Nike, Adidas unite publicly against Trump policy http://hill.cm/mNFva2Z

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  37. citizen817 says:

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  38. Bogeyfree says:

    Hey Tom Fitton,

    Have you thought about a FOIA on all emails and texts for the past 3 years between Judge John Roberts and every FISA Judge? It would be interesting if there were any discussions about all this FISA abuse and what if any direction or conversation took place amongst this small group.

    Just a thought.

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  39. linda4298 says:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-to-launch-re-election-bid-on-four-year-anniversary-of-2016-kickoff Despite June 16 landing on Father’s Day this year, Trump has made it clear in conversations that he considers that to be the official launch date for his effort to remain in the Oval Office, according to Axios.

    Trump plans to surround the reelection launch with a cluster of rallies across the country, holding events in swing states in an attempt to dominate the news cycle. His reelection launch will draw some attention away from Democrats.

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  40. about time!

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  41. the guy who threw milkshake at Nigel!

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  45. Blue Ridge Mts. Va says:

    The Blog Now The End Begins mentions being censored by FB again. They said they just availed themselves of Trump’s new tool for reporting Big Tech Censorship. I am glad they are joining with others to get the word out about censorship.

    https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/i-used-president-trump-new-tech-bias-sharing-reporting-tool-report-facebook-banned-me-for-3-days-posting-islamic-terrorism-censorship/

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