President Trump Declares National Emergency For Information and Communication Technology…

Here we go….  President Trump is laying the groundwork to ban telecommunication companies based on identified risk to national security (ie. Huawei).  Nations who engage in 5-G technology agreements are on notice they may be cut-off from communication partnerships with the U.S.A.

[I think Wall Street just pee’d their pants a little..]

[Executive Order] By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that foreign adversaries are increasingly creating and exploiting vulnerabilities in information and communications technology and services, which store and communicate vast amounts of sensitive information, facilitate the digital economy, and support critical infrastructure and vital emergency services, in order to commit malicious cyber-enabled actions, including economic and industrial espionage against the United States and its people.

I further find that the unrestricted acquisition or use in the United States of information and communications technology or services designed, developed, manufactured, or supplied by persons owned by, controlled by, or subject to the jurisdiction or direction of foreign adversaries augments the ability of foreign adversaries to create and exploit vulnerabilities in information and communications technology or services, with potentially catastrophic effects, and thereby constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States.

This threat exists both in the case of individual acquisitions or uses of such technology or services, and when acquisitions or uses of such technologies are considered as a class.

Although maintaining an open investment climate in information and communications technology, and in the United States economy more generally, is important for the overall growth and prosperity of the United States, such openness must be balanced by the need to protect our country against critical national security threats.

To deal with this threat, additional steps are required to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of information and communications technology and services provided and used in the United States. In light of these findings, I hereby declare a national emergency with respect to this threat.

Accordingly, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Implementation.

(a) The following actions are prohibited: any acquisition, importation, transfer, installation, dealing in, or use of any information and communications technology or service (transaction) by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, where the transaction involves any property in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest (including through an interest in a contract for the provision of the technology or service), where the transaction was initiated, is pending, or will be completed after the date of this order, and where the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary), in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Trade Representative, the Director of National Intelligence, the Administrator of General Services, the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, and, as appropriate, the heads of other executive departments and agencies (agencies), has determined that:

(i) the transaction involves information and communications technology or services designed, developed, manufactured, or supplied, by persons owned by, controlled by, or subject to the jurisdiction or direction of a foreign adversary; and

(ii) the transaction:

(A) poses an undue risk of sabotage to or subversion of the design, integrity, manufacturing, production, distribution, installation, operation, or maintenance of information and communications technology or services in the United States;

(B) poses an undue risk of catastrophic effects on the security or resiliency of United States critical infrastructure or the digital economy of the United States; or

(C) otherwise poses an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States or the security and safety of United States persons.

(b) The Secretary, in consultation with the heads of other agencies as appropriate, may at the Secretary’s discretion design or negotiate measures to mitigate concerns identified under section 1(a) of this order. Such measures may serve as a precondition to the approval of a transaction or of a class of transactions that would otherwise be prohibited pursuant to this order.

(c) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section apply except to the extent provided by statutes, or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the effective date of this order.

Sec. 2. Authorities.

(a) The Secretary, in consultation with, or upon referral of a particular transaction from, the heads of other agencies as appropriate, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including directing the timing and manner of the cessation of transactions prohibited pursuant to section 1 of this order, adopting appropriate rules and regulations, and employing all other powers granted to the President by IEEPA, as may be necessary to implement this order. All agencies of the United States Government are directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order.

(b) Rules and regulations issued pursuant to this order may, among other things, determine that particular countries or persons are foreign adversaries for the purposes of this order; identify persons owned by, controlled by, or subject to the jurisdiction or direction of foreign adversaries for the purposes of this order; identify particular technologies or countries with respect to which transactions involving information and communications technology or services warrant particular scrutiny under the provisions of this order; establish procedures to license transactions otherwise prohibited pursuant to this order; establish criteria, consistent with section 1 of this order, by which particular technologies or particular participants in the market for information and communications technology or services may be recognized as categorically included in or as categorically excluded from the prohibitions established by this order; and identify a mechanism and relevant factors for the negotiation of agreements to mitigate concerns raised in connection with subsection 1(a) of this order. Within 150 days of the date of this order, the Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Trade Representative, the Director of National Intelligence, the Administrator of General Services, the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission and, as appropriate, the heads of other agencies, shall publish rules or regulations implementing the authorities delegated to the Secretary by this order.

(c) The Secretary may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of the authorities conferred on the Secretary pursuant to this section within the Department of Commerce.

Sec. 3. Definitions. For purposes of this order:

(a)the term “entity” means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization;

(b)the term “foreign adversary” means any foreign government or foreign non-government person engaged in a long‑term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or security and safety of United States persons;

(c)the term “information and communications technology or services” means any hardware, software, or other product or service primarily intended to fulfill or enable the function of information or data processing, storage, retrieval, or communication by electronic means, including transmission, storage, and display;

(d)the term “person” means an individual or entity; and

(e)the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 4. Recurring and Final Reports to the Congress. The Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to submit recurring and final reports to the Congress on the national emergency declared in this order, consistent with section 401(c) of the NEA (50 U.S.C. 1641(c)) and section 204(c) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1703(c)).

Sec. 5. Assessments and Reports.

(a) The Director of National Intelligence shall continue to assess threats to the United States and its people from information and communications technology or services designed, developed, manufactured, or supplied by persons owned by, controlled by, or subject to the jurisdiction or direction of a foreign adversary. The Director of National Intelligence shall produce periodic written assessments of these threats in consultation with the heads of relevant agencies, and shall provide these assessments to the President, the Secretary for the Secretary’s use in connection with his responsibilities pursuant to this order, and the heads of other agencies as appropriate. An initial assessment shall be completed within 40 days of the date of this order, and further assessments shall be completed at least annually, and shall include analysis of:

(i) threats enabled by information and communications technologies or services designed, developed, manufactured, or supplied by persons owned by, controlled by, or subject to the jurisdiction or direction of a foreign adversary; and

(ii) threats to the United States Government, United States critical infrastructure, and United States entities from information and communications technologies or services designed, developed, manufactured, or supplied by persons owned by, controlled by, or subject to the influence of a foreign adversary.

(b)The Secretary of Homeland Security shall continue to assess and identify entities, hardware, software, and services that present vulnerabilities in the United States and that pose the greatest potential consequences to the national security of the United States.The Secretary of Homeland Security, in coordination with sector-specific agencies and coordinating councils as appropriate, shall produce a written assessment within 80 days of the date of this order, and annually thereafter.This assessment shall include an evaluation of hardware, software, or services that are relied upon by multiple information and communications technology or service providers, including the communication services relied upon by critical infrastructure entities identified pursuant to section 9 of Executive Order 13636 of February 12, 2013 (Improving Critical Infrastructure Cybersecurity).

(c) Within 1 year of the date of this order, and annually thereafter, the Secretary, in consultation as appropriate with the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Homeland Security, Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, the United States Trade Representative, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, shall assess and report to the President whether the actions taken by the Secretary pursuant to this order are sufficient and continue to be necessary to mitigate the risks identified in, and pursuant to, this order.

Sec. 6. General Provisions.

(a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

DONALD J. TRUMP

THE WHITE HOUSE,May 15, 2019.

 

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302 Responses to President Trump Declares National Emergency For Information and Communication Technology…

  1. The Devilbat says:

    We have one fantastic president who is looking after America’s interests.

    Liked by 48 people

    • calbear84 says:

      Well said. The beauty of Trump is that his positions are anything but radical. They just make common sense so people are wholeheartedly with him. (Globalists excluded, of course).

      Liked by 17 people

      • James Carpenter says:

        Common sense had staged a departure from the “common” column these years past.
        But, like all good fashion, it is busy making a comeback. 2020 should be quite interesting.

        Liked by 1 person

    • mikeyboo says:

      Yes, Devilbat and he is doing so without apology!!!!

      Liked by 4 people

    • bertdilbert says:

      I think Trump just used his magic wand again to create about a quarter million jobs. He started with the biggest ticket consumer purchases, autos and now seems to be moving down the line.

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      • Orville R. Bacher says:

        HuaWei is a clear and present danger. China is a Dictatorship bent on the destruction of the United States.
        It is very late in the game, but there is this one window, and one window only, to turn this ship around from the disastrous waters created by backroom Globalist Corporations that hate the American People.
        President Trump has more courage in his little finger than the previous 3 Presidents combined.

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      • CountryDoc says:

        Desperately waiting for help to drowning primary care physicians who are the backbone of rural health medicine. Drowning in government and insurance produced bureaucracy, as well as insurance initiated extortion/diversion of critical health care dollars and blocking of needed care. The care looks good on paper, the outcomes are awful, and the licensed health care providers are not taking home revenue commensurate with their education, stress, level of responsibility, flexibility, and risk, whereas healthcare administrators are disproportionately paid and rewarded for profit for their companies rather than outcomes to the patient. Very little effective voice by either the patients or providers.

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    • Amen. G-d’s hand is on our President DJT, and I pray that it stays there.

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  2. I guess the Chinese are about to find out that IP Theft is going to backfire big time with their accumulative flyers into email boxes and web page ads…The screws are tightening and Amazon, Facefarce and Goole are about to find out how much!!!

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    • FrankieZee says:

      Do you know if this effects Google in regards with them working with the Chinese to develop systems to spy on their people?

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      • VERY GOOD QUESTION: YES IT DOES…because the Chinese/Goole will try to put backdoors in the code and also anyone using the Goole storage…Which uses YOUR IP ADDRESS…That is why I use Firefox with a WHOLE LOT OF EXTRAs added!!! VPN is you’re friend in case you’re wondering!!!

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        • Publius2016 says:

          definitely positions attacks on Conservatives like deplatforming as aiding foreign adversary!

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          • Publius2016 says:

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            • Daniel M. Camac says:

              This is what has to happen. Good for the White House to send this message out. We need to fight fire with fire.

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            • Mandy says:

              I’m seeing folks warning each other about this, claiming that this right here is a massive ‘honeypot’ so that POTUS can then officially go after those who hold ‘unacceptable’ views!

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            • 🤔 Purely coincidental release the same day as the E.O. ?

              By the way, seems like Soros might fall under the EO as well.

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              • Guess What BKR?…HE DOES…This EO more explicitly outlines what OVERSEAS companies are ALLOWED to do. By taking out facefool, gool, and amazona the deck has been restacked so to speak…The NSA will be MONITORING channels used by those weasels…

                The dems will be flying blind from now on along with the rinos. PDJT is not just doing this to one party, he is TAKING OUT BOTH SIDES OF THE CABAL BECAUSE THE CABAL PLAYS BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET!!!

                PDJT makes street-fighting look easy…it’s not. Takes a lot of planning and opportunity to do it at the right time. The cabal is going to be fighting for life here in a few weeks with EVERYTHING COMING OUT…The wailing and gnashing of teeth is going to be glorius!!!

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                • While M$M “advises” POTUS that he’s spreading himself TOO THIN to succeed …

                  President Trump’s on OFFENSE and MULTIPLYING the FRONTAL ASSAULTS
                  (and laying UniParty breadcrumbs to open new fronts everywhere).

                  He’s got em SURROUNDED.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        This is potentially huge… it goes into Information Technology, which is WAY beyond 5G networks and Cisco routers and “hacking” and “IP theft”. We’re talking about Google, Amazon, big service and software tech providers that either already are or will be shortly working with the Chinese government… er… I mean… tapping into the China market.

        China, at least until recently, had been scooping up U.S. Startups (I think they’ve been pulling back a bit recently). For example, I phone interviewed with a small Digital Health company within the past couple of years… Cool company, good people, the mission: preventative medicine through Crowdsourced Big Data. Help people cope and strategize with debilitating and terminal disease and conditions. The Problem: by the time I spoke to them they had recently gotten a big $$$ investment from a ginormous Chinese conglomerate. One particularly interested in Digital Health. You can imagine where this is all going. Coming to a Reality Nightmare near you: collecting your DNA and storing it in a government-controlled Big Datastore located in some warehouse outside Beijing. Why would they do that? Well, to help the world be a healthier place, of course… and to “make better decisions” about the World’s health.

        Imagine: All your DNA are belong to us, and Google was so kinda as to develop a Super Duper AI Engine to churn through that giant database of Genomic Meta Data in order to… oh, I don’t know… tell you how long you have to live. Decide whether or not your Medicare For All pays for that heart medicine. Purifies the populace? You do the math. These are not what one would call “friendly people”.

        So… yeah… thank God for @POTUSFOURTYFIVE.

        Some light reading:

        https://www.cbinsights.com/research/icarbonx-teardown-genomics-ai-expert-research

        https://www.xconomy.com/boston/2017/01/06/patientslikeme-nabs-100m-works-to-advance-personalized-medicine

        https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/13/16771134/google-ai-lab-china-research-center

        As I wrote to a friend once: Your humanity… Powered By Google! “Alexa, am I going to die of cancer before I’m 65?”

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        • IT TAKES A TECHIE TO UNDERSTAND ANOTHER TECHIE…I keep telling close friends/relatives…DO NOT GIVE YOU’RE DNA to any company…The genome project opened up main streams of data sourcing for the dna and gene splicing is becoming EVEN more sophisticated. The chineeese don’t just want to control the world, they want to get rid of certain “aspects” of our gene pool…”Alexa, can you kiss my a$$$?”

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Is this going to frazzle Asian stock markets?

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      • Publius2016 says:

        in the long run, no…remember Japan 2020 Olympics

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      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        Only China…..

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      • Boknows says:

        It will have some market effect in Asia.

        With Trump throttling Huawei, It throws the stock growth of a company like Ericsson into high gear.

        They have partnered with American firms and those across the globe. With 5g just in it’s infancy, a company like Huawei could quickly be on the outside looking in, while companies, like Ericsson and others who partner with American telecommunications companies will become the next market high flyers.

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  3. WhereEaglesDare says:

    A President that’s truly looking after the American people!!

    Liked by 11 people

    • Actually, with the clout that the USA has, your president is protecting other democracies as well – if they want to do business with the States. I pray for the safety of PDJT every day. In my view, he is truly a godsend.

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  4. Greg1 says:

    Respectfully, Sundance, I think Wall Street did more than a lil’ peeing in their pants.

    I think Wall Street might now smell a bit like San Francicso.

    Now we are about to find out who is willing to continue selling America out in an effort to chase money. It should be interesting watching the business interests who start praising China and condemning President Trump. And, of course, democrats will declare that Trump should be impeached for the 8,453,792nd time.

    President Trump has clearly put a lot of thought and work into this. Dude is a genius. And a very patriotic one at that.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Panda depends need changing.

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    • Dont just watch the dems…ALSO WATCH THE ‘PUBS!!! These characters will be ringing their powdered hands and act like the perfumed princes they try to be…PDJT is going to destroy everything … DEEP STATE, GLOBALIST AND THAT GIANT SUCKING SOUND WILL BE THE ones who have sold out their country on BOTH sides of the aisle!!!

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      • Dutchman says:

        eagledriver,
        LIKE! Do NOT allow yourself to become distracted by the Dems setting their hair on fire, DISTRACTION is their GOAL.
        To distract us from the Repubs who are the Dems allies!

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        • Dutch…Great minds think alike!!!

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          • 🍺Gunny66 says:

            China is in a trap that they cannot get out of.

            Now watch for the ones who realize that their benefactor (China) is finished……Gowdy…..Biden….many others are now going to “Suck Up” to the idea of China is finished and wait for another “gravy train” to arrive…..All of this will be to cover up their past / present dealings with China.

            The majority of Congress was bought and paid for by China…..

            Hey China…..I’ve got an idea……You want a break on tariffs?

            Give us Obama and Clinton on a silver platter….Dead…or Alive..

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          • Daniel M.Camc says:

            Greg1, Have’n’ t heard from you ( or I was askew) but your message is dead on. I don’t doubt that your last 2 sentences nail both points. The only reason I can legitimately say this is because I found Sundance sitting on top of a Tree just before the 2016 election.
            MAGA KAG and I pray every day that, with GOD’s help, we will destroy the Demonacratic party, their propaganda machine and the RINOS and Globasllists that have Tried to take down America. If we don’t, this is has all been in vain.

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      • SwampRatTerrier says:

        ….and Especially the Traitor GOPe…….

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    • JC says:

      “Dude is a genius” indeed… er… Most Honorable Dude. Thank you, Mr. President.

      Good post, Greg1. I’m sitting here with a silly grin on my face, gloating a bit that I’m a protected, valued American citizen since President Trump took office, for the first time in decades.

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    • Linda K. says:

      I was listening to Ben Shapiro on the radio today and I was surprised at how negative he was on tariffs. He started citing polls where Biden is beating Trump and playing a clip of farmers saying they were falling off cliff and that they were leaving the “Trump train” whatever that means..He did not praise China, but he was definitely against Trump,,,I am not crazy about Ben Shapiro but I never thought he as a “never Trumper”,

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      • Scarlet says:

        I think he has aspergers.

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      • Zimbalistjunior says:

        I like Ben but he bites off more than he can chew, fancies himself as an expert in everything and doesn’t surround himself with editors or people who can check his worst impulses.

        At some point, for example, he should probably learn how to pronounce Nadler’s name properly. It’d be nice.

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      • marywilbur says:

        Shapiro is definitely a ‘Never Trumper”

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      • Boscobel says:

        Ben Shapiro has always been a Never-Trumper. Too bad too because he has the ear of the conservative college crowd. He may find his relevance diminishing if he keeps up his shrill shill against DJT

        Liked by 3 people

        • gregc77 says:

          Clearly in the too-cool-for-school camp. Doesn’t want to look stupid to his cohort, so he’s tone deaf to the premier political event of his lifetime.

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      • Guffman says:

        Little Benji has never gotten over his schoolboy crush, Michelle Fields, and the phony story she made up of Corey Lewandowski crushing her arm and throwing her to the ground during the 2016 campaign… all proven to be fake by video that captured the incident.

        He was even whining about it AGAIN just a few nights ago on a BBC interview where he got all flustered. He’s always hated Trump because Benji wants to think he’s smarter than POTUS, when in actuality he’s not. So no big news that he’s shooting off his mouth again with an anti-Trump screed. He’s a sad little man throwing another tantrum.

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      • eagle931 says:

        Ben Shapiro has been a Never Trumper from the beginning, so of course he would be against tariffs. And to the so-called polls showing Biden “beating” Trump. This is May 15th 2019, one and one half years away from the election. What polls say today have no bearing on what will happen on Nov 2020. because these are push- polls designed to test the waters for one candidate and to elicit the very reaction that you expressed. But, regardless of what the polls say about Biden and tariffs, one thing is clear and that is that unless we the people are willing to stick together to deal with China’s theft of our economy in the long term we will never win this trade war, or any war for that mater.

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      • GB Bari says:

        Same as the polls showing Hillary in a landslide.
        Ben is a younger version of Karl Rove.
        Next thing you know he’ll be using a whiteboard.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      I am sooooo glad he’s on our side.

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    • Greg1…I have stated above…this is going to take out BOTH sides of the aisle. By doing this NOW along with the declass coming in a short time…the Deep State/cabal are going to be RE-ACTING instead of ACTING…

      PDJT has thought this through LONG AND HARD…He was prescient enough to have a plan that was fluid and reacted to situations instead of the plan being “hard coded”…There were 12 Generals in the World, Genghis Khan for example, that had this prescient thinking…

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  5. ParteaGirl says:

    Thank you, President Trump!

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  6. Chieftain says:

    It’s not just Red China. This is a Russia component to this as well. Russian sourced software makes its way to the USA.

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    • Carson Napier says:

      It’s also the CIA and FBI components as they have proven they will just abuse just about anything and everything for political purposes..

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    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      Russians make good software.

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      • OlderAndWiser says:

        Disagree. They make crappy software. The very best (maybe 100-1000 Russians) make good software – the rest suck. They have always sucked – which is why they copied US companies’ code.
        I have personal knowledge having worked with many of them. Arrogant – yes. High quality code – no.
        Though they are better than the Chinese – but that’s like comparing Venezuela and Ethiopia.

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        • highdezertgator says:

          Quote “The best way to prepare [to be a programmer] is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and fished out listings of their operating system.” Bill Gates

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      • eagle931 says:

        Quite the contrary. Everything they make (except Vodka) is pretty bad.

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    • CaptainNonno says:

      Kapersky Labs supposed to protect PC’s but cultivated and sends info back.

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  7. Carson Napier says:

    Gibe me a break! China is no threat to us. My son thinks they are wonderful. Even nicer than the very nice Ukrainians.
    – Joe Biden

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  8. Katherine McCoun says:

    Can those who work closely with foreign entities (such as fb and google) run into trouble here in the US via this declaration?

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  9. Sandra-VA says:

    Most excellent!!!!

    About time this was done!

    I hope the Administration will also go back to NOT selling US technology to countries like China… the way it used to be. I was completely and totally shocked when IBM was allowed to sell the ThinkPad to a chinese company… Lenovo. I think it was Clinton that started this…

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  10. ParteaGirl says:

    And it doesn’t stop with foreign communications. Trump is collecting evidence regarding domestic freedom of speech violations on social media platforms! Yay! If it’s happened to you, tell him your story here 👉🏻 https://whitehouse.typeform.com/to/Jti9QH

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    • LBH says:

      Wait until the masses self-report their suppression/suspension. Avalanche. Also a quick gauge of the scope of injury to the US conservatives/progressives. Bravo!

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      • ParteaGirl says:

        I just finished with my report. I gave them a link to a tweet of mine in March having to do with John McCain. I had 2500 rapid responses (mostly hateful) in a matter of minutes from mostly fake accounts. If you have a gripe with any social media platform, please help Trump gather evidence! It only takes a few minutes. Thanks!

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  11. TreeClimber says:

    “Nations who engage in 5-G technology agreements are on notice they may be cut-off from communication partnerships with the U.S.A.
    [I think Wall Street just pee’d their pants a little..]

    Ham radios all around! 😀

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Lovely Nellie: “Don’t mind if I do!”

      … OR …

      “Don’t knock it if you’ve never tried it.”

      … OR …

      “Funny. Very funny.”

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    • John Good says:

      I’m here in Canada and tomorrow the Liberal Media Heads will Explode!!!
      The Canadian Spy Agency ( or whatever it is called ) heads have been warning Trudeau’s Liberals that the Chinese Gov’t can and probably will Spy on us thru HEUWAI 5g technology, but our Socialist Twit leader is governing on “feelings” instead of common Sense!
      The Toronto Star is just full of articles trying to justify Climate Change today and the usual anti Trump brainwashing.
      I guess we here in Canada will have to go thru what Americans went thru under O’Bama, but I see no-one like Donald J Trump on the horizon to undo the damage done to the Country. Anyone that I know or have known, would never ever get involved in Politics, as Trump did there.
      I’m hoping that other Countries will see the success that the USA is having and maybe it will smarten a few people up ( or scare them straight ).

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  12. Paul B. says:

    We made exactly the right choice. No other 2016 candidate would have done this, certainly no Democrat*. This is what we used to call gravitas. Thank God.

    And with this done, the censors at Big Social Media break into a sweat, because free communication in their sector is critical to the national interest as well.

    * I might make an exception here for Beto, who showed incredible leadership today by publishing live video of him receiving a haircut.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Paul b.
      Certainly NO Republican, among the 17 dwarves would have done this!
      Not Jeb
      Not Lil Marco
      And NO, NOT CRUZ
      Not Little Lindsey
      Maybe Ben Carson, about the only candidate besides DJT that,wasn’t a bought and paid for member of the Big Club.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        I think Lil’ Marco has been sounding the alarm RE: China, at least in the last couple of years. Of course, it falls on deaf ears… cuz Money. And also: our Brain Trust that Is Washington, D.C. has been focused on other, more important, things… like… uh… Vladimir Putin, and… er… Cow Farts.

        But “no other 2016 candidate would have done this” is very likely true. Maybe not 100% certainty, but pretty damn close to it. Messy politics and TOTAL LACK of will, foresight, strategy, etc. to CONFRONT China head-on. See “Obama Administration: The Final Verdict” chapter 18 or so. The CERTAINLY would not have been any attempt at trade/economic reset.

        I thank the stars every day that we’re “Not With Her”… cuz we’d all be hanging from a bamboo tree.

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    • Bill says:

      * I might make an exception here for Beto, who showed incredible leadership today by publishing live video of him receiving a haircut.

      And don’t forget AOC with her video about being afraid of her garbage disposal when it growled at her!!

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    • marywilbur says:

      LOL

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  13. What this functionally means is that all electronic devices used in telecommunications or computing within the United States must be made in the United States, and that furthermore only United States Citizens – having passed appropriate background checks and possibly having obtained professional licenses (which do not exist yet …) may work on them.

    It’s an easy and necessary leap to extend this to all software development within the United States, and all software that may be used here. Only “open source” packages – properly certified by United States licensed practitioners – could provide an exception. The use of “non-immigrant visa” contractors would be prohibited because it is not possible to certify that those parties are not potential agents, capable of illicitly removing software and/or data under their control.

    Both hardware and software development would be restricted by law only to US Citizen persons having appropriate licensure in good standing. Nationals of any foreign country would be prohibited by law from working on any hardware or software project relating in any way to data.

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    • ganesh says:

      Mikey:

      So – you may be right, and if you are, this will be a huge blow to china and satellites and more. I tried to read through the whole order, and I have to admit – not tonight – that is some pretty thick legalese.

      Still – making it stick in the face of the CoC – this will be ugly.

      I wonder if that is what people mean when they keep talking about this big ugly thing. I mean – imagine if your whole business premise is based upon intellectual property theft (like all phones and any digital anything made in china) combined with slave labor? ANd suddenly you can’t sell it in the US anymore? What is a tyrant to do? What will Apple do? Where they gonna go and who will they sell to? There is a lot of money invested here!

      Thinking maybe Samsung is a Korean company getting its pants in order.

      Respectfully,

      ganesh

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      • Ganesh, part of what I think we’re seeing here is a realization that we really haven’t yet seriously tried to ==regulate== computer technology and/or “the Internet.” So far, we’ve simply treated it as some kind of benign utopia, in which “the very dark side of human nature” simply doesn’t exist. If it was technically possible – “woo, hoo! look what we can do NOW!” – we did it. No questions asked.

        Now, what’s extremely interesting to me is that we NEVER did this before, in any of the “advances in electricity-driven communication” that existed until now: telegraph, teletype, telephone, cellular. In each of these cases, there were laws – privacy laws especially – such as “wiretapping.” But today, we have telephone switches(!) with “Siri-like” voice recognition abilities, and people insisting that “it’s not wiretapping” because A PERSON is not the one “listening in.” Crazy, crazy things like that.

        So, to me, this very-lengthy executive order is probably mostly “a harbinger of things to [finally …] come.” We’re finally realizing that this technology can be used against us, and that (human nature being the dark thing that it is), it will be. At this moment, and with this Order, we’re still only considering “physical devices.” But the truth of the matter is that these “physical” devices are mostly: “software.” So the real issue is “software,” and, I think, the need for professional licensing.

        In my home state of Georgia, USA, you have to have a license to install air-conditioners, plumbing, or even low-voltage wiring. You have to have a license to be an architect or a =physical= engineer. But today you do not have to have any credentials at all to develop computer software, and most of the people who today are employed to develop that software are not citizens of this country. More to the point, we’ve never done any sort of background check, never required education or certification, and so on. You have to have a license to build a physical structure, but not a software structure. And yet, in today’s world, software structure failure can kill more people much quicker than any errant mis-designed bolt.

        We’re just now beginning to realize the legislative exposure; the profound risks that we’ve actually engineered for ourselves. I think that this XO is a “first actual, definitive step forward.” But an entire body of professional regulation – actually defining these things as PROFESSIONS – is still just in its baby steps with plenty of questions left to answer and plenty of wise-decisions yet to make.

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        • P.S.: Let me also not “rush to judgment,” nor to “racism” (or the appearance of the same), when what I am basically describing is the emergence of “Software ENGINEERING” as a brand-new “Engineering PROFESSION.”

          In most if not all “now-licensed, recognized professions,” we actually have INTERNATIONAL standards regarding them. If you are a licensed electrical engineer in Norway, say, your licensure is formally comparable with such a license virtually anywhere else in the world. While you will have to go through some “legal hoops’ to have your license accepted, say, in America, these procedures are recognized.

          But you still must go through those hoops, if you are to PRACTICE.

          Fundamentally, we recognize ELECTRICAL Engineering (et seq) as “licensed, formal professions,” but we have never yet done so for SOFTWARE. Yet.

          What we must quickly realize, though, is that “it’s ALL ‘Software.'” Your car, your airplane, your router, your phone – hell, even your refrigerator – it’s SOFTWARE. It’s interacting with your life just as surely as a bolt or a wire ever could, but there is no concept of licensure nor any other formal control concerning it. Yet. Maybe we’re finally beginning to realize that this has become unacceptable.

          Much to do … so much to talk about … so much to do …

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        • TheLastDemocrat says:

          I need a license from you to write code?

          Do I also need a license from you to write outlines when I lead Bible study? Or write a stream of obscenities in a letter to a friend?

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        My company sells a lot overseas, we sell budget devices that are manufactured overseas, and sold in those markets, with software and services designed and built here.

        This will potentially kill our business because even if we could build here and sell here, the market for sales in Asia is larger. If we can’t build there and sell there, its over.

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        • Guffman says:

          There might soon be a much larger market here, if large Asian companies are blocked to some extent. The US *should* be manufacturing more electronic technology at home – it’s a disaster waiting to happen when you depend almost entirely on foreign manufacturing for this stuff, which seems to be the case now.

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          • Steven Edwards says:

            There are 3 to 3.5 Billion people in Asia, and we sell to THEM and bring money back here. There are only 300 to 350 million here. We are not talking about devices made there and imported here, but devices made there in conjunction with engineers here for sale in that market.

            Are you saying we don’t sell the market with a population larger than the rest of the planet?

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            • Kim Harris says:

              If you can’t make a business out of 350 million potential customers here…. you might as well give up. No pun intended.

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    • CirclinTheDrain says:

      I’m no lawyer but that’s how I read it too. It closes the door on any hardware manufactured overseas, firmware, software, etc., anything that can be influenced by a foreign entity. To my mind it’s all countries – any company in Asia, Europe, South America, etc. Looks like US software engineers and electrical engineers may be getting better jobs instead of losing them to H1b or outsourced companies.

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      • The awkward situation here, Circlin – which the President probably has not realized (in detail) and probably couldn’t – is that virtually all “hardware” manufactured today consists mostly(!) of software! Start up your car and drive billions(!) of lines of SOFTWARE down the road. All of us tragically witnessed SOFTWARE (and sensor-hardware?) failures that crashed two Boeing airplanes. “Auto-pilots” for automobiles have already killed a number of people. And yet, throughout all of this, we’ve failed in two things:

        (1) We haven’t identified SOFTWARE Engineering as a licensed profession.

        (2) We haven’t internalized that “software can actually KILL us.”

        But – if the President of the United States has enacted a “piece of legislation” as very-detailed as he now has, perhaps this is at least a harbinger of the recognition that all of us (internationally …) have a fundamental issue that we’ve been ignoring until now. “Finally, the wheel begins to turn.” Countless problems remain to be solved, questions remain to be answered, but at least we officially begin to perceive that they exist. (Yay!)

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        We build our phones overseas, to be sold in those markets, but we use Engineers here to do it. How the **** are we supposed to build and export a $30 to $50 phone in the US? Oh and ship it all over the world and get it sold in those markets?

        The local businesses we already compete with with simply out-price us.

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    • OlderAndWiser says:

      I’m not too sure about this. What I seem to infer from the language is that if a supplier
      1) is owned (fully or partially) by an enemy country (to be defined) or
      2) does business with an enemy country (to be defined)
      then for sure the supplier is not allowed to do biz in the US. There are other prohibitions to be sure.
      But, if a company desires to hire a team in a friendly country (like Ireland) and produce software, that would most likely be allowed. If they ban friendly countries – most, if not all, of the large software companies would have serious problems, and many small companies also would. The above two points would already make it illegal for companies that do business with the governments of China or Russia (or other enemies) to sell in the USA. That would itself be an 7.5 earthquake. Banning all countries would be a 10.0 earthquake – no one survives.

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      • Of course “in the next few nanoseconds” (the modern world being as profoundly connected as it is …) we’re going to see all kinds of fall-out. And we need to pay very close attention to every bit of it, because IN THIS VERY FALL-OUT(!) we’re going to see the issues being raised that will one day need to become the issue of both domestic laws and international treaties.

        “The enabling event,” oh-so long awaited, “is this Order.” Of course the Order will turn out to be insufficient, but – because it does bear legal force – it will TRIGGER exposure of the issues that will very soon need to become the concern of both legislators and diplomats.

        “At last … at long last … after three decades … Software becomes a Profession.”

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  14. Rhino says:

    Computer/cyberworld ignorant as I am (admittedly, I do not have a ‘smart’ phone), can somebody explain to me what’s bad about this ‘5G’ stuff?  What…does China have some ‘bug’ planted in it? /R/

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    • thebigharry says:

      Jim Morrison explains it pretty well.

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    • Think of the internet as nothing more than a really fast US postal system, with addresses to and from to send packets of information. In the old school mail system, you have your home address and address you are sending the package too. The postal carrier picks up the mail, send it to a sorting facility which then passes it along to another facility to then get delivered to the persons house for final delivery.

      With the internet you have IP dresses (similar to home addresses but made for internet delivery) these are used to tell routers and switches (sorting facilities) where to send electronic packages. If those routers and switches have the ability to illegally route or read the packets(copy or steal information being sent) of information to a foreign hostile power it is a major problem. Imagine you were sending plans for a new design to a contractor to build a wonderful new product to sell and while the packet was traveling the internet threw a Chinese made router/switch, it gets captured so the Chinese could beat you to the market.

      This is as simple an explanation I can give and there s much more to it, but it should help explain in basic terms what we are trying to stop.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G

      Huwaei is a Chinese company and as such is part of the government. They would have backdoors built into their tech to spy… in a nutshell.

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-14/why-5g-phones-are-new-focus-of-freakouts-about-huawei-quicktake?srnd=technology-vp

      “2. What are the security worries?

      The new system’s ubiquity. 5G isn’t easier to hack than its predecessors, but it will eventually connect many more devices than in the past, so protection from outside malign forces becomes a larger concern. Some nations are worried that Chinese 5G equipment, chips and software could be outfitted to spy on other nations. In August, Australia banned Huawei and ZTE Corp. from supplying 5G wireless equipment to its telecommunication operators, citing national security. Verizon and rival AT&T have dropped plans to sell Huawei phones. In March, Trump blocked Broadcom Ltd. from acquiring Qualcomm Inc., the biggest maker of mobile phone chips, on concerns that the merger would help give China an edge in the race to develop 5G.”

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    • Snow White says:

      Rhino,

      5G was never meant for commercial use, it is bad news.
      https://whatis5g.info

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  15. ristvan says:

    This EO is a big deal thing of beauty in several ways.
    Note carefully the detailed wording, which avoids the ‘Muslim Ban’ controversies while relying on SCOTUS 1977 ruling in Nixon v Admin (433US425) to avoid the ‘bill of attainder’ defense Hauwei has already raised. (Was researching that for Neal’s tax return subpoena, but is a separate interesting corner of conlaw.
    Note how although only applicable in the US, the wording directly affects intelligence sharing with those in Europe who don’t heed.
    Note how without doing so directly, it calls out China in service of a bigger trade objective.
    Note how it empowers Cabinet members to make the decisions—a CEO sets policy/strategy, then tells subordinates to implement accordingly. PDJT is a classic good CEO, now getting good subordinates in place.

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    • calbear84 says:

      Trump ain’t playing. He’s hardball all the way. Kind of like a Don Drysdale fastball under the chin!

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      • Ray Runge says:

        You raise the inevitable court fights to come to test the ability of Executive to initiate vast trade policy changes while providing enforcement mechanisms over time.

        Crank up the law firms and courts. Supreme Court will soon visit the issue and how the current club argues and votes will be in great relief. Ruth Bader Ginsburg might even be required to suspend life support and attend discussions.

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        • Dutchman says:

          I don’t see any arguments surviving SCOTUS challenge. The EXECUTIVE obviously is the branch directly charged with protecting the U.S., and that includes detecting potential threats.

          How long until China (Chicoms) are formally listed as “foriegn country adversary”?

          3,2,1,….?

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        • mtk says:

          Maybe that is what is all about…

          c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

          In others words go pound salt.

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        • formerdem says:

          Indeed but we will all be watching.

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    • Steven Edwards says:

      So rather than having Congress write law, it enables Executive Agencies to engage in Regulatory tyranny….

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  16. Nick the Deplorable says:

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  17. Paco Loco says:

    Bye bye Huawei, hello Motorola

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  18. Sparty says:

    Huawei as many know ripped off Cisco and other network HW providers and built carrier grade equipment sold 50% on the dollar.
    That sh$t has a limited to zero footprint here.

    One arrogant multinational climbed deeply in bed with Huawei: VW AG. They’ve deployed Huawei “connected car” systems in millions of vehicles and in EMEA buy up Huawei IP infrastructure like kids in a candy store. They will pay dearly for adopting their little pet croc!

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    • OlderAndWiser says:

      And yet an ex-Vice-Chair of the USA Joint Chiefs of Staff was on Huawei’s board.
      And of course he was good friends with the Chair of the US Chamber of Commerce.
      (Know them personally.)

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  19. sundance says:

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  20. smiley says:

    Will this have any impact on the cyber attacks like Baltimore?

    8 days after cyberattack, Baltimore’s network still hobbled

    https://news.yahoo.com/8-days-cyberattack-baltimores-network-still-hobbled-180229405.html

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    • Concerned Virginian says:

      “This is your city on Democrats”.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Daniel says:

      In a place where everyone is an affirmative action hire, the best and brightest among them are hard to find.

      Liked by 2 people

      • GB Bari says:

        And the one female on-air TV news reporter (Mary Bubala) with 25 years of successful performance was just fired for daring to ask (on the air) if, after three female African American mayors (all DemocRATs, but Ms. Bubala didn’t mention that) in a row could not fix any of the city’s problems, does that indicate maybe it’s time to look in a different direction.

        She was spot-on correct so the station manager fired her even after she publicly apologized for not articulating her question in a better, more sensitive manner.
        Lesson: There is NO apology strong enough to excuse anyone in Leftwing media for telling the truth about Progressive policies.

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    • CM-TX says:

      While it’s probably just the usual carelessness of cyber-security by Dems– I was hoping to hear it was more of an intentional thing. As there tends to be a lot of shady dealings & politics in the Dem controlled cities.

      So, imagine if crooked city officials were locked out of their network system– one they primarily used to conduct shady business & communications?

      Assuming there was still limited accessibility… it’d be a great time to audit past activity. They could avoid interference, & prevent any data from suddenly disappearing.

      Unfortunately, I’ve not seen anything to back the theory. Just a hopeful hunch.

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  21. ristvan says:

    As a former very senior MOT exec who worked closely with John Chambers, then Cisco CEO, and his senior team, I can assure Treepers that almost everything telecomm Hauwei has up thru 4G ‘Edge’ is ‘stolen IP’ in one form or another. That let them put their own engineers mainly on 5G ‘virtual micromesh networks’ these past few years, another hidden unfair advantage. Not to mention Hauwei founder came from PRC military and had a ‘guaranteed’ enormous domestic market for a couple of decades to the exclusion of MOT, Cisco, Nortel, and Alcatel/Lucent (the main telecomm network combatants fighting each other everywhere else).

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    • The Boss says:

      Interesting perspective. Thanks.

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    • OlderAndWiser says:

      Hey Rist we might have a lot of friends in common.
      I second your opinion. I wouldn’t use any Huawei products if you paid me.
      Not sure if you knew this, but an ex-Vice-Chair of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff was on Huawei’s board. Personally pushed Huawei on me and my company.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Older and wiser: Former high ranking military (O6 and above) were formally prohibited from working in acquisition. (God alone knows what Obama changed) You might want to contact the DOD IG and talk to someone who oversees the acquisition community about how he was able to influence you – it is very possible that he broke the law.

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    • USTerminator says:

      If you are truly as you say you are, Senior MOT executive then you were part of the problem that brought us China problem. Motorola lobbied and encouraged her US employees to call and write to US congresses to give China MFN. Lobbied US government to let Loral to transfer the rocket multistage and guidance technology. License the cell phone technology to China so they can make cell phones compete with China. Motorola was so in bed with China that it might as well move their headquarter to Beijing back to their hay day. The MOT executives sold out America to China. I was MOT employee for over 20+ years. I love Motorola until this day even I left them almost 15 years ago but I will never forgive them for betray America. I can still remember vividly the day that I received the email and had town hall meeting that my boss / boss asked all Motorolans to call and write to your congressman/congresswoman to grant China MFN because that is in Motorola interest and benefit. “Are you fricking kidding me??? not in your life time” and that is the answer that I told my boss that day and he could tell that I was deadly serious.

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  22. Daddio says:

    How long will it be until the 9th Circus rules against this? CONgress is owned by the ChiComs as are most multi’s. So no support from anywhere in the District of Criminals…

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  23. TwoLaine says:

    And speaking of China… This is too funny!

    Macy’s has had 4 years (almost) to get ready for this. I’m surprised they are still in business. 😉

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    • NvMtnOldMan says:

      Two–Wasn’t it Macy that dropped Trump’s ties and Ivanka’s clothes?

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    • joeknuckles says:

      Macy’s is admitting that they sell cheap Chinese crap (produced by slave labor) at their ridiculous prices.

      Liked by 4 people

    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      “Macy’s CEO says the latest tariffs are hurting the company’s business…”

      GOOD!

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    • Alexander Bocephus Hamilton says:

      Who knew Macy’s was even in business, anymore. My family stopped shopping there when they played Marxist politics and dropped PDJT and Ivanka lines 3 or 4 years ago. I though they went out of business with Montgomery Ward and Sears/Kmart. Macy’s incompetence is not impacted by tariffs, but a changing market place and an array of bad decisions is their problem.

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  24. Bill says:

    What Country in their right mind would trust critical infrastructure to crappy quality Chinese product?
    Double the above when the hooks or potential for spying are involved!!

    Our VSGPOTUS is slowly isolating China from the countries they are holding hostage.
    That includes the USA!

    Go Donald Go….MAGA MAGA
    Winnamins to Winfinity and beyond!!

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    • Dutchman says:

      So, does this mean if countries in the EU buy and put online 5G equipment from Huwei, that ‘we’ will no longer be able to call say,…France?

      Or, does it mean NO ONE will buy Chicom bug infested crap from Huwei, BECAUSE if they do, no one in U.S. will be,able to call say,…France?

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      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        Ok….this is just me…..Why would anyone want to call France?

        Their tourism is gone….the Muzzies have taken over half the country
        Any time a terroist act occurs, the French police must go “check out” their guns before responding…..

        Calling France??? …….would be like calling my ex-mother in law just to talk…

        Never happen……

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    • Daniel says:

      Lots of people not in their right minds. SuperMicro and Cisco have had their stuff “counterfeited” in China. (They are normally made in China, but when they add extra chips which sniff networking, they are claimed to be counterfeit rather than compromised)

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  25. littleanniefannie says:

    Hopefully the ChiComs are peeing their pants a little, maybe combined with a little poop-de-doo! Maybe a truckload of Depends could be split between Wall St and the ChiComs. Beyond that, potty training is all on them! Throw in some Wet zones and it sounds like a deal to me!!
    Thanks PDJT. You have our backs covered!!

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  26. SwampRatTerrier says:

    RE: Sundance says “I think Wall Street just pee’d their pants a little.”

    I’ll use a good old Southern expression and state I think the Globalist Wall Street Finance Folk will be “Messing” their Pants non-stop until they Repent and Turn from their Evil Ways.

    Snark.

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  27. TheTorch says:

    and remember what was reported recently in the UK around 24th May 2019, that also later involved a minister being sacked because he disagreed with PM May and was accused of leaking information:

    THERESA May risks a fresh Cabinet row after giving a Chinese tech giant the green light to supply part of Britain’s 5G network.

    Sources claim the National Security Council (NSC) chaired by the PM yesterday agreed Beijing-owned Huawei can have limited access to help build antennae and other “non core” infrastructure.
    It comes after growing warnings over Huawei’s involvement.

    Huawei is viewed with suspicion by security experts
    The US has banned Huawei from government networks and urged the UK and other intelligence partners such as Australia to do the same.

    Chinese companies are legally obliged to cooperate with Beijing’s state intelligence agencies.

    The Daily Telegraph last night claimed Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson and Home Secretary Sajid Javid were among those to raise concerns about Huawei during the NSC meeting.

    But insiders insisted last night that the PM was only likely to have given the go-ahead after advice of her top security advisers.

    Theresa May angered the Chinese government shortly after entering No 10. She infuriated Beijing shortly after becoming PM in 2016 by demanding checks on Chinese investment in the Hinckley Point nuclear power plant.

    Sources in December claimed Gavin Williamson had “grave concerns” about allowing Huawei any role in the 5G network. On a trip to Ukraine he said Britain had to recognise that the Chinese state “does sometimes act in a malign way”.

    Chancellor Philip Hammond is due to make a flying visit to China today to back the nation’s Belt and Road international investment programme.

    Philip Hammond is also Anti BREXIT and one of the people who has tried to undermine it ever since the referendum result… things that just make you go hmm….

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  28. A2 says:

    And this report just came out

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/chinas-economy-not-so-big-after-all-46887

    China’s economy only half the size of US and growing slowly. China has been cooking the books. Everyone knew it, now we have the data.

    #ChinaCheats
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    • Stillwater says:

      I was watching a panel discussion yesterday where Michael Pillsbury answered a question regarding China’s economic growth and discussed the various estimates of Chinese GDP.
      Starts at 44:36.

      An Inside Look at China – 3/27/19 (Council on Foreign Relations)
      “Panelists examine China’s role in the world, its ongoing trade conflict with the United States, and President Xi Jinping’s political and economic agendas.”

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  29. Ausonius says:

    IT IS ABOUT TIME!!!

    20 years of treasonous transfers to the Chinese – and others – of our high technology, starting with Billy Jeff I-Can’t-Keep-My-Barn-Door-Closed Clinton and continuing through the next decades thanks to Chamber-of-Commerce RINO’s and Barack Let’s-Make-America-#37 MAObama may finally STOP!

    Dollars over patriotism, dollars over basic common sense, dollars over all!

    And it is also high time to stop the industrial espionage/theft by China and any other country.

    See:

    https://capitalresearch.org/article/flashback-bill-clinton-gave-china-missile-technology/

    and

    The Chinese and 60 years of amoral, immoral, atheist Communism have produced generations with no morality. Stealing to the Chinese is not stealing, cheating is not cheating, if it means putting America and The West at a disadvantage and raises up China. My sons and my former students saw a microcosm of this in various universities with “exchange students” from China. The open, shameless, organized cheating among Chinese students was incredible.

    And every “universissy” looked the other way: the DOLLARS from the Chinese for tuition were worth it!

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  30. 335blues says:

    President Trump has recognized that communist china is at war with the United States.
    It is not a shooting war, but it is a real war.
    >95% of the world’s fentanyl production comes from chinese laboratories, and most
    of it is smuggled into America. And it is killing Americans at an alarming rate.
    And china is doing it exactly for the damage it is causing.
    Espionage, theft, cyber attacks, economic warfare, etc.
    Communist china is fighting a war against us in an attempt to destroy us.
    Make no mistake, the 5G products that Huawei sells are ALL designed with
    hard and software “backdoors” that send all manner of sensitive, private, and
    secret information to the communist chinese government for their use
    in furthering their war efforts.
    ANYBODY who chooses to use Huawei 5g equipment is just plain stupid.
    Or they are in cahoots with communist china.

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    • highdezertgator says:

      Fentanyl = Chemical Warfare….. targeted at unemployed Americans in the heartland.
      Close the factories kill the people…. no shots fired!!!
      CoC ..Wall street ..Uniparty ..Congress Critters should be locked up for what they have allowed and promoted in the name of “Free Markets” ..
      and that includes all the “never Trump” pundits like little Ignoramus Weasel Rat Ben Shapiro… puke!!!

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  31. weirdflunky says:

    I read the order. I don’t know if I “get it”. Production of phones in China will continue. The order appears to give “The Secretary” plenty of waiver room. This company’s phones or computers or whatever aren’t dangerous to the US but this company’s phones and computers are because “The Secretary” says so. Therefore, these can be imported but those can’t.

    Or am I totally missing what this thing says?

    Any legal nerds care to explain?

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    • Publius2016 says:

      gives 40 days for Report…creates infinite number of leverage points as well…our Founders were Geniuses…gives Ample Authority to Executive in very specific circumstances!

      Congress can pound sand or “impeach” if high crime or misdemeanors like DACA!

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Not a legal nerd but what this does is continuing to raise the risks of doing things outside of the US. More money will flow to the USA for investment.

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  32. Jase says:

    So, with Treason May handing Huawei the keys to the kingdom – against the advice of a bevy of ministers – does this mean Five Eyes is soon to be Four Eyes?

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    • Rhoda R says:

      Kind of hard to share information with a government that has an embedded trap door straight to the Chinese.

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    • pgroup says:

      Yes but it doesn’t matter. Don’t forget The Orb Network, which is intended to do the real intel work and sharing. Five Eyes (or Four Eyes) doesn’t matter any more; neither do our civilian spy agencies (CIA, NSA, etc.). They are now mainly for show.

      The real critical intel runs through the Orb and its terminals are in the military of each member country. Here, it’s the Pentagon/Defense Dept.

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  33. mtk says:

    I guessing 95% of the BS apps are about to drop off the grid by having pushed uninstall commands issued by app store providers.

    Gee, what am i going to do without my flashlight app from the ChiXon Grouo with the extended privileges to access internet and my contacts, calendar and camera apps.

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  34. Ghost says:

    Observations from a smaller limb.
    Tariff’s, strike one, Sanctions for importing Iranian oil, strike two, Penalizing those who purchase or work in information and technology, strike three. PDJT is playing a serious game of hardball.
    😎

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  35. roger duroid. says:

    Uniparty in a frazzle now, which red button to push. Orange man bad or Foreign actors trying to hack our systems. Not a PEEP when the awan bros were hacking all the DNC computers.

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    • sickconservative says:

      Is it hacking when your employee backs it. D’s are compromised and really not even hiding it well at this point.

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  36. Katherine McCoun says:

    Well, THIS is what I signed up for!! 🙂

    Many have been bothered by Big Tech’s censorship of conservatives and no, it is not over yet. However, obviously, our President Trump has been Hard at work behind the scenes laying the ground work for needed changes regarding Big Tech and doing more than one thing at a time on the issue.

    I am not surprised in the least that his admin were not kicked back, feet on the desk, sipping afternoon highballs. OF COURSE they were working on these issues!!!

    And those who were ranting and raving At and About President Trump should have had faith and patience.

    I don’t like the censorship either but I did/do not blame and harass President Trump because of what leftists are doing. That is what really set me off on those who were complaining the current situation was President Trump’s fault and it “wasn’t what they had signed up for” when it looked like President Trump wasn’t taking the actions they wanted when they wanted on these issues.

    Complain about situations but don’t blame God for what the Devil does! (and, no, I don’t think President Trump is actually God or even a god … calm down, its just an analogy!). Better yet, offer solutions and be politically active on issues and give President Trump EXTRA support so that he has political capital/cover to take the actions he needs to take to fix things and has Congressional support.

    But, whatever you do, don’t jump off of the Trump Train for one specific issue that isn’t going well at a given time. We can Trust Trump to be working hard on the issue and coming up with great solutions.

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    • Monadnock says:

      Katherine, you’ve expressed my sentiments better than I can – thank you.

      I need to re-re-read and mull this over some more, but I wonder if this will also tend to dial back the number of US citizens involved in software development who have been losing their jobs to cheap H1B imports for years and years? Kind of like a backdoor gutting of a big problem that could help prioritize US citizens over foreigners when it comes to employment in this arena?

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  37. LandofLiberty says:

    All China would do is low bid projects worldwide and the US would be losers anyway. The U.S. wasn’t going to get more business. It was going to lose business just like losing the import/export game.
    Face it. Most business men would sell their families future out. The nations future out and when they got beat out of a large payday they just come running home to mommy government crying and blaming mean ole China when they were the betrayers themselves and gave the Chinese all the technology secrets they had away. American business man are motivated by ugly greed. Now their chickens come home to roost.

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  38. Query says:

    I love it.
    For the definitive comment go to Obama’s quote re the Don….”how does that happen, by magic?”
    Yep.

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  39. Perot Conservative says:

    Yes!

    I wonder what Hunter Biden thinks?

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  40. Tiffthis says:

    Since so many -on both sides of the isle-publicly agreed with PDJT’s strong stance on China, why not take it to another level? 😂

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  41. Dave Huff says:

    Lawsuit from leftists in 3, 2, 1……

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  42. Steven Edwards says:

    This is going to kill the company I work for.

    We make budget phones for the developing world (We sell in China, India, and all over Africa. Our cell phones are made in China, our software is designed in Taiwan and our services are hosted with US Cloud providers.

    Because of how overly broad this is worded, since it does not specifically mention 5G or any other technology, the way the State and Commerce Department is going to word this, only the massive players like Apple, Motorola, etc will be able to get exceptions and comply.

    Thanks a lot…

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    • Steven Edwards says:

      And of course, everyone will say ‘build your phones in the US’.

      That is not possible. We sell $30 to $50 cell phones in those markets. You can’t make a phone that cheaply here. Even if we could, that is before export transportation costs and tariffs those nations would impose.

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      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        Kinda sucks to be you…..

        You and your company are the ones playing with the Chi Coms……the cheaters….the fentinal / opioid distribution …..the hackers……the ones keeping North Korean people slaves…

        But now you want to blame our President because you can’t sell your cheap, slave labor phones….?

        Go cry some where else…..wait….I got it…go cry to Macy’s….I’m sure they would buy your phones at a 500% mark up..

        Give me a break……..Pfffft…

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        • Steven Edwards says:

          Stop and think for a moment…it may be hard, but just try. We make phones in China that are sold to other Chinese people, so whatever their wages are, we sell those devices to them at a fair market rate. Generally our phones run around $30 to $50. We also sell in India and Africa, however since you are talking about China, lets address that.

          There are more people in South East Asia than there is in all of the rest of the world combined, and by selling to them, we make money which we bring back to the United States in our economy. No one is a ‘slave’ to make our devices, they can work for any company they want, but they are empowered by buying our phones, being able to get online, read and learn, maybe open up their minds to new ideas, get an education and have upward mobility.

          So lets say we stop making our phones there, we stop selling there, what happens?
          1. Other people make phones there and life for them goes on, in fact its better, because they keep more money in their region
          2. We extract less value (bring less money here) so what happens? We hire less Americans, we have less money here for taxes and commerce

          So explain to me again, how cutting the US with its 300ush Million people off from a market of 2 Billion people is a ‘win’

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          • LafnH20 says:

            Your #2 above @ 9:29 vs THIS ☟ from @ 8:27

            It could be a huge problem for us, we have like 25% of our company is Chinese and Taiwanese Greencard Holders. To say nothing of the Jordanian, Bengali and others we have. Our shop is only about 50% White American.

            Suggestion… hire ALL White??? Americans.
            Send the “Card Holders” packin.

            That is all.

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            • Steven Edwards says:

              So drive our costs even higher, making business unprofitable so no Americans, white or otherwise have jobs?

              The reason we build in China, is because costs would be impossible to build said phones here and ship and sell overseas. The reason we hire the people we do, is because we hire the best we can find, regardless of where they are from. Americans want more jobs, they have to be able to compete against the best. Again, we have about 50% Americans, and would hire more if we could find them. I am certainly not underpaid, money is not the issue, it is the lack of qualified people.

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              • CirclinTheDrain says:

                You misread the EO. It is specifically for the use of technology IN THE CONUS. It says zip about manufacturing overseas and selling to overseas markets. I don’t see why your business would be impacted unless you tried to sell those phones in the US

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    • LafnH20 says:

      How do you know…

      the way the State and Commerce Department “”is going”” (future tense) to word this, only the massive players like Apple, Motorola, etc will be able to get exceptions and comply.
      ?

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        Because it already has happened with Panasonic and its Gigafactory with the Solar Panel Tariffs. They get a special exemption on their import tariffs for goods sold in foreign markets. The problem is, getting such an exemption for small players is nearly impossible.

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        More over, read the proclamation. It discusses services with intellectual property.

        Because our phones are built and designed overseas and we as the American Firm design the Cloud Services, we test and validate the phones that are designed over there, we import test units and make sure they comply…how are we going to avoid an overly broad reading of this IP transfer if we hire expert engineers from say Qualcom to do QA validation?

        Even though no IP is being transferred, we are building the software and hardware with a global team across multiple nations, we will not be able to hire expert engineers here any longer because of the threat that we could be exporting that IP to our overseas subsidiaries.

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        • LafnH20 says:

          Does Panasonic get a “Special Exemption” on All goods or only those involving IP?

          Not trying to be combative.

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          • Steven Edwards says:

            Neither am I, just expressing concern. In the case of the Solar Tariffs they were just on the goods, they make panels and batteries with Tesla at the Gigafactory so they were able to get an exemption on the import tariffs for products being made for foreign markets.

            There was no proclamation regarding IP or services in that case….the issue here is this is so overly broad (we design and test partner devices, (even some people I know use huawei phones they specifically bought in China because they go back and forth so often), the potential ramifications from the State reading this overly broadly are to say the least, troubling…

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            • All Too Much says:

              I had a similar thought about the prohibitions applying to “foreign nationals”.
              That seems very broad and could ensnare a whole lot of people, not all of whom have nefarious intent. I wish the term was defined in Section 3″s definitions. The term might be meant to be more specific than I read it.

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              • Steven Edwards says:

                It could be a huge problem for us, we have like 25% of our company is Chinese and Taiwanese Greencard Holders. To say nothing of the Jordanian, Bengali and others we have. Our shop is only about 50% White American. If this is read overly broad, we could shut down on a moments notice….

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            • LafnH20 says:

              Perhaps, the reason for the “Comprehensive” approach (At least initially and before any accommodations might be agreed upon) is due to the “Variety” of participants in your particular field of expertise.
              i.e., Your company vs those mentioned in (…) in your post?

              Dunno…

              As an aside.. I have “Visited” the gigafactory several times. Impressive facility, to say the least. They even recieved their own zip code. Fwiw

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            • CirclinTheDrain says:

              Again, you are not selling IN THE US, FOR USE IN THE US. This doesn’t apply to you

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    • @Steve Edwards: Your job might become collateral damage or maybe it won’t; only time will tell but the president is doing what is in the best interests of the country whereas your employer may have been in it for the money.
      Don’t take the president’s actions personally

      You might look back on this day in the future and realize what a blessing in disguise it was.

      If your company does go out of business at least there are many other jobs available, maybe even better paying ones.

      During the restructuring of America from a globalist economy that was designed to destroy the middle-class to an America first economy there might be some discomfort for certain people but in the long run a stronger America is better for everyone.

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        There are more people in South East Asia than there are in the rest of the world. If we can’t sell in those markets, I fail to see how the US ‘wins’. We and many other US Companies depend on being able to make cheap devices to sell in those markets.

        Everyone gets caught up on the iPhones or Routers that are imported here, but are missing the bigger picture on the math.

        China and India have what 3 billion people? We have 300 million. If we can ONLY afford to make and export high dollar devices here, how does that work? Right now we sell $30 to $50 phones in those markets, as do many other types of companies that make and sell sub $100 devices.

        I cannot see any way this can possibly work out where we can ‘win’. In fact this whole notion of a win/loss game is becoming absurd. We don’t have to lose for them to win and they don’t have to lose for us to win, but if we play it as a win/loss game, we could very well lose.

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        • Devil in the Blue Drapes says:

          I read this as, “from this day forward” meaning nothing can be done to US companies who’ve already been the victim of IP theft, moreover companies who willingly relinquished their IP in order to do biz w/China….

          IMO in a capitalistic market companies have every right to operate as they see fit, pleasing to shareholders….except when their product is potentially harmful to consumers and/or national security.

          DJT is taking hits from all sides, Wall Street/CoC/Republicans beholden to lobbyists, and this only incentives China to hold out longer v negotiate.

          I’d venture to guess, Congress (particularly Rs) are running with hair afire to intervene to stop this, so I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions just yet.

          Hope that helps… a wee bit anyway.

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        • Bill says:

          @Steve Edwards:
          My employer 30+ years ago chose to “outsource” some of our products to China.
          All Tooling, patterns and all prints, test specs test fixtures etc. were shipped over along with the product engineers for that product.
          The “best” samples failed all functional tests, they were not even marketable in China,
          As time progressed, we began loosing market share due to corporate mismanagement.
          Several buyouts later, the various departments are shipped to various plants of the new German owners. We went from being #1 in the industry to virtually nothing.
          I viewed my layoff Jan 1993 after 23 years with them as being set free then, and still do 26 years later.
          Last year I called the boss that laid me off 25 years before to thank him!

          The demise of your employer is really based on top level decisions that many times defy reason!

          As an employee, you CAN’T save them from their bad decisions!!!

          Whining and grousing about what the future will bring will do nothing more than severely impact your functioning on the currant job. And will have major impact on the next. Saw it happen to many coworkers that were laid off.

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          • Steven Edwards says:

            Maybe your company failed to adapt to the new world, and the way you have to do business. We are a newer company of only a few years and have been growing by leaps and bounds, but to do so, you have to know how to do business in China, you can’t just go in expecting cheaper labor and products of the same quality.

            Anyway I digress, our products are made there for markets there. There is no way to make the same product here, and then get it over there, and then be competitive with other local business. We are not talking about luxury items like a $1200 iPhone where the production is over there, and the import back over here is a rape on our citizen. We are building product there at a fair market rate, and selling at a fair rate to consumers who can buy them, and then we are bringing money home and creating jobs here for our divisions in America.

            That goes away with a broad reading of this order.

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    • Query says:

      “We make budget phones for the developing world”

      Alas, you don’t manufacture phones in the US.
      China and Taiwan make your phones. US cloud providers are not a manufacturer of anything, merely a low value depository.

      This is specifically intended to prevent Chinese surveillance of US communications. If you aren’t facilitating that you’ll get around it.

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        You missed the part about IP transfers. We design services here, we test those phones here, we are tied to their tech even though those phones are not sold here. So what happens when we try to higher people who say: ‘Sorry I don’t want to work for a company that is working on X technology’

        We won’t be able to hire anyone here, not that we already can, we only have 50% of a White American staff, because there is already a lack of skilled people. So what happens when those people are afraid of being jailed for export violations for developing/building those products?

        This will not benefit us, we will lose access to a market of 3 billion people. That is money that will not come back in to the US.

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        • Query says:

          Or move to China.
          Or petition the legislation writers now and rely on a sensible interpretation.
          Much of this is the result of China doing relatively simple hacks and using that info to build an F35 airframe.

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          • Steven Edwards says:

            We are not talking about legislation being written…we are talking about Executive Branch agencies engaging in Regulatory fiat drafting.

            it is amazing, this place is called The Conservative Treehouse…yet there is loud applause at the idea of Executive Branch Regulating rather than Legislative Branch Legislating.

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            • Query says:

              Give me strength. If it’s via regulation it’s easier to fix. Approach the decision maker, if that’s Wilbur you’ll find a fierce intelligence that gets it.
              If not, vote Democrat for the good ‘ol days when CoC did the legislative writing.
              If you need dirt cheap labor to thrive dunno if I care what happens to your offshore manufacturing, actually.

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              • CirclinTheDrain says:

                Additionally there are thousands of US engineers who struggle to find employment. Dead giveaway when this person who’s angering all over the thread says they can’t find skilled US citizens. Bullshit. I can give them the names of a half dozen they could hire today. So tired of that canard. Move overseas for cheap crappy software and electrical engineers if you aren’t willing to pay US citizens.

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        • pgroup says:

          Relocate everything to Japan or Taiwan, except your corporate office. Taiwan must have cloud servers so even that could be exported to there.

          Think outside the box (of the US).

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    • Ray Runge says:

      Boo hoo.

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  43. Concerned Virginian says:

    WOW WOW WOW!
    This EO also puts ENGLAND and Theresa May on notice—wasn’t just discovered she made a secret sweetheart deal with Huawei for 5G there? And there are calls for her to resign?

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    • pgroup says:

      What’s that sound I hear? Why, it’s the sound of wirecutters furiously severing the ties that (used to) bind us.

      Mizz May now has bigger problems than Brexit IMO.

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  44. LandofLiberty says:

    There is another thing that bothers me. People can do as they please but for the life of me I cannot understand how a person would listen to Ben Shapiro. Man I don’t get it. Or how do people listen to MSNBC or CBS or NBC or ABC news. Maybe people love it a lot more than they let on. Turn that stuff off. Why click on a site where your click shows up as a viewer for them. I mean Brietbart and Gateway Pundit and Daily Caller are bad enough with the click bait. All these places are click bait anymore. Other than the 3 I just mentioned Hannity, Laura and Tuckers is about it for me. You can always listen to Gorka or Dan Bongino. Bongino has an excellent piece on youtube today. Excellent

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  45. Concerned Virginian says:

    And here’s the other thing:
    You can BETCHA that POTUS read, digested, and made suggestions/corrections to, this EO before he put his signature to it.
    NOT like other Presidents who would just sign whatever was put in front of them (and no. I’m not referring to Woodrow Wilson after his stroke although apparently that did happen).

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  46. rd says:

    Chinese Subjects and Chinese businesses are required to cooperate with Chinese Intelligence /Spy Agencies,

    The Intelligence Law… repeatedly obliges individuals, organizations, and institutions to assist Public Security and State Security officials in carrying out a wide array of “intelligence” work. Article Seven stipulates that “any organization or citizen shall support, assist, and cooperate with state intelligence work according to law.”

    Article 14, in turn, grants intelligence agencies authority to insist on this support: “state intelligence work organs, when legally carrying forth intelligence work, may demand that concerned organs, organizations, or citizens provide needed support, assistance, and cooperation.”

    From here: https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/the-real-danger-of-chinas-national-intelligence-law/

    Their promises are all lies until they repeal this law. The recent US-China trade dispute was caused by China reneging on their promises to enact laws enforcing the agreements on Intellectual Property and Theft of Trade Secrets. Unless these laws change, Huawei will spy on everyone, as it is their duty to China and demanded by China. They can hide behind the Chinese National Laws for the reasons why they allowed the spying.

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  47. HarryJ says:

    One thing I noticed: This news is not on fox and cnn front page.
    Will there be a sue tonight by the russia hawks to allow foreign interference on american life?

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  48. CAMaven says:

    and exactly what is a “foreign adversary?

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    • California Joe says:

      China and Russia!

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    • All Too Much says:

      foreign adversary is defined in the declaration.
      What is not defined is “foreign national”.
      The opening statement of prohibitions states the declaration “…involves any property in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest…”
      That seems very broad, but smarter people than I drafted it.

      Foreign national is defined as:

      (b)the term “foreign adversary” means any foreign government or foreign non-government person engaged in a long‑term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or security and safety of United States persons;

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Covers a broad range of sins and doesn’t require shooting as a standard of proof. Gives the President a lot of flexibility.

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    • All Too Much says:

      (b)the term “foreign adversary” means any foreign government or foreign non-government person engaged in a long‑term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or security and safety of United States persons;

      From the declaration.

      This might be a semi duplicate post.
      I tried to post an answer to your question, but I don’t see it, yet.

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        More troubling is this line:
        ‘This threat exists both in the case of individual acquisitions or uses of such technology or services, and when acquisitions or uses of such technologies are considered as a class.’

        I have co-workers that routinely have to travel back and forth to China for business. They own Hawuai phones because they simply work better with Chinese apps and services when they are visiting and working in Shenzhen. Guangzhou, Shanghai, etc, our phones simply do not work well in China if at all, yet their phones work perfectly in both locales.

        Are they now going to be viewed as a threat or risk? Is their property contraband and going to be taken at the border? The implications and potential abuse of power here could range from an annoyance to absurd.

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  49. joeknuckles says:

    Biden sent China a strong signal when he said publicly that they were “good folks” and we should not be concerned about them. Shortly thereafter, China reneged on the trade deal they had previously worked out with Trump.

    Half-witted collusion???

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