Big Puzzle Pieces Connecting – The CIA, FBI, and 2016 Political Surveillance is Merging…

The admissions within the New York Times story today -outlining how President Obama’s intelligence apparatus ran simultaneous intelligence operations against the Trump campaign- are starting to merge the FBI and CIA operations. CTH anticipated this.

With new information about the “U.K. operation” using Stefan Halper (CIA asset and FBI informant); and the details of the contacts by U.S. intelligence operative Azra Turk; we can overlay the timeline and see a clear picture.

On August 15th, 2016, Lisa Page and Peter Strzok discussed the “insurance policy“:

Two weeks later, September 2nd, 2016, CIA operative Stefan Halper reaches out to George Papadopoulos and introduces him to CIA/FBI asset Azra Turk.

This alignment between the CIA and FBI is not a surprise to anyone who has followed the story behind the 2015/2016 political surveillance issues.  However, there’s a specific connection here many are missing.

Remember, everything AFTER March 9th, 2016, is a cover-story.  Everything after March 9th, 2016, are operations from both the CIA and FBI to hide the political surveillance that was going on before March 9th, 2016.  The surveillance was happening through exploitation of the NSA database through unauthorized FISA search queries; and involved both the CIA and FBI.

This is the point that has not been emphasized enough. However, FISA Judge Rosemary Collyer outlined the connection, albeit with mandatory redactions.  The connective evidence is in a footnote on page #87 of Collyer’s report that few are paying attention to:

Read that carefully and you’ll see an agreement between the CIA and FBI to allow contractors.  Note:

“[CIA] access to FBI systems was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding enter into [in ????])”

CTH believes that redacted date is 2012 as a result of another section of the report and the emphasis that Collyer is placing on the time-frame throughout her full report.  Notice also:

“Despite the existence of an interagency memorandum of understanding (presumably prepared or reviewed by FBI lawyers) no notice of this practice was given to the FISC until 2016.”

So there was a secret agreement between the CIA and the FBI that was kept hidden from the FISA court until 2016 when Director Mike Rogers exposed and reported it.

The agreement centered around “access to FBI systems“; and, THIS IS IMPORTANT, we know the overarching issue was “deliberate decisionmaking” that led to “contractor access to the NSA database”, and the fact those contractors were searching “U.S. persons”.

Can you see the process now?

Can you see the potentially layered illegality of the process now?

CIA operatives (contractors) were using FBI portal access (per the secret agreement) to exploit the NSA database and extract search results.  Remember, the CIA is not supposed to be conducting surveillance, aka “spying”, inside the U.S. on American citizens.

In essence the secret agreement, unknown to the court, was the CIA hiding their extraction of U.S. person information by using FBI database access.  [Through the DOJ-NSD (National Security Division)]   Now does it make sense why the DOJ would not allow Inspector General oversight?

In 2015 the Office of Inspector General requested oversight and it was Deputy AG Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58-page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.

The secret MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) between the CIA and FBI was the reason why the DOJ-NSD could never allow inspector general oversight.

In the Obama-era political surveillance programs the lines between the CIA and FBI were blurred. They were working together through contractors. This is why you are noticing blurred lines between the CIA and FBI in the construct of the cover-up.

This is the parallel tracks we previously described, copied below for reference:

Everything after March 9th, 2016, is a function of two intelligence units, the CIA and FBI, operating together to coverup prior political surveillance and spy operations.

Prior to March 9th, 2016, the surveillance and spy operation was using the NSA database to track and monitor their political opposition.  However, once the NSA compliance officer began initiating an internal review of who was accessing the system, the CIA and FBI moved to create ex post facto justification for their endeavors. [Full Backstory]

The evidence for this is found in the documents attached to both operations; and bolsters the original statements by Congressman Devin Nunes as highlighted below.

The CIA track took place between March and July 2016, and consisted of using foreign intelligence allies in Italy, the U.K and Australia to create a background illusion of Russian involvement with the Trump campaign.  This operation was based on earlier -more innocuous- contacts from various countries, weaponized and redeployed in what everyone calls “spygate”.  This track successfully culminated in Operation Crossfire Hurricane.

The FBI track was domestic-centric, albeit sub-contracted to Fusion GPS and later a former British intelligence officer, and took place between April and October 2016; also to create the illusion of Russian involvement.  This operation is best known around the Steele Dossier and FISA warrant against U.S. person Carter Page.  The FBI track continued with the Mueller investigation into 2017, 2018 and 2019.

In April of 2018 Devin Nunes noted:

[Transcript] “So it took us a long time to actually get this, what’s called the electronic communication, as we know it now for your viewers, what it is it’s the original intelligence, original reasons that the counterintelligence was started.

Now this is really important to us because the counterintelligence investigation uses the tools of our intelligence services that are not supposed to be used on American citizens. And we’ve long wanted to know: what intelligence did you have that actually led to this investigation? So what we’ve found now, after the investigators have reviewed it, is that in fact there was no intelligence.

So we have a traditional partnership with what’s called the Five Eyes Agreement. Five Eyes Agreement involves our friends in Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Canada, and of course, us. So long time processes and procedures in place where we move intelligence across.

We are not supposed to spy on each others’ citizens. And it’s worked well. And it continues to work well. And we know it’s working well because there was no intelligence that passed through the Five Eyes channels to our government.

And that’s why we had to see that original communication. So now we’re trying to figure out, as you know, we are investigating the State Department, we think there’s some major irregularities in the State Department, and we’re trying to figure out how this information about Mr. Papadopoulos of all people who was supposedly meeting with some folks in London, how that made it over across into the FBI’s hands.” (video link)

The direct evidence for what Devin Nunes is describing is found in two specific documents.  Each of the documents is unique to their track.  One track is the CIA the other track is the FBI.  The merging point that binds them is the U.S. State Department.

♦ First, we review the CIA track.

The evidence for the CIA track is found in the Weissmann-Mueller report.  More specifically, it is found in the intentional way the report tries to conflate two contact points.

This track is CIA Director John Brennan’s work, with enlisted help from the FBI counterintelligence unit (Peter Strzok and Bill Priestap) as they travel to the U.K.

After western intelligence asset Joseph Mifsud (posed as a Russian) plants a story on George Papadopoulos about Russia having “emails of Clinton”, the operation then needs Papadopoulos to share the information.  That’s where a joint network comes in.  The network is the U.S. embassy in London; the Australian embassy in London; the Australian Ambassador to the U.K. Alexander Downer; and his top aide Erika Thompson.

Notice page #89 of the report; but read carefully and specifically notice the date Weissmann and Mueller use to frame the Russia story extraction from Papadopoulos:

The meeting on May 6th, was NOT a meeting with Australian Ambassador Alexander Downer.  That meeting did not happen until May 10th.  The recent release of documents from Australia confirm this timeline.

The meeting on May 6th was between George Papadopoulos and Downer’s aide, Erika Thompson:  …”that the Trump campaign had received information from the Russian government that it could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton.”

So, if the U.S. used the information from the May 6, 2016, meeting as conveyed on July 26th, 2016, it was the conversation with Erika Thompson that opened Crossfire Hurricane; not the meeting with Alexander Downer on May 10th. {Go Deep}

This subtle but important distinction in contact and communication reconciles the statement by Devin Nunes; because Thompson is also a reported intelligence operative (spy) and information from her would not be passing through “Five Eyes” official channels.   However, for their intents and purposes, the U.S. operation needed to give the appearance of official channels, so the *inference* between the claim and the footnote *implies* Ambassador Downer.  But you can see that’s not actually what happened.

This is an example of Weissmann/Mueller disguising the actual origin in their report.  They are giving cover to the reality that unofficial intelligence was the actual basis for the originating “EC” or two-page electronic communication from CIA Director John Brennan to FBI Director James Comey. It was that 2-page EC, likely written by FBI counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok, that initiated “Crossfire Hurricane”.

The page in the Weissmann/Mueller report is factually true but the inference is false.  It is written in the way they intended, to give a false impression.  It is quite subtle and sneaky.

What is outlined on Page #89 is also the CIA track that ran from March to July 31st, 2016.

The operation positioned Joseph Mifsud as a Russian spy; has him plant information on George Papadopoulos; then uses U.S. and AU operatives to withdraw the information; thereby giving the appearance that a Trump campaign official, Papadopoulos, was receiving and passing-on Russian intelligence.  This is the CIA justification for creating the EC.  This is the CIA cover story.

Now let’s review the evidence of the FBI track and how it also connects to the U.S. State Department.  This one is more brutally obvious because the document had to be less ambiguous in construct.   This involves the FISA application on U.S. Person Carter Page.

♦ The FBI Track – The Steele Dossier, FISA Warrant and Carter Page.

The second page of the FISA application used to gain a Title-1 surveillance warrant against U.S. Carter Page identifies where the material came from.  Notice the direct attribution is to the State Department; not the DOJ or FBI, and certainly not Christopher Steele.

Applying hindsight to the backstory of the Clinton Campaign hiring Fusion GPS, and Fusion hiring Christopher Steele for the Dossier; and the dossier being passed on to the FBI and DOJ via various channels… Question: why would the DOJ be citing the State Department for their claim?

The answer is simple.  Carter Page was a known person to the FBI and DOJ.  Carter Page was a subject witness from 2012 to 2016 in the Evgeny Buryakov case [DOJ March 2016].  How could the FBI claim Carter Page was “an agent of a foreign power” to the FISA court in October 2016, when they only finished using him as a cooperating subject witness in May of 2016?  [DOJ May 2016]

The short answers are: (1) they couldn’t; (2) they were in a big hurry; there was a sense of urgency; they needed the FISA and Steele Dossier as insurance policy; and (3) it wasn’t safe for the DOJ/FBI to make the ‘foreign agent‘ claim against their own prior witness if things went sideways.

Remember, this is all a coverup.  Their efforts are about gaining position and appearances to justify a preceding action. Their efforts are not focused on an actual investigation. So they told the FISC the information came from the State Department and [Redacted]. Whichever source could give them the best legal justification to gain the FISA warrant was the leading point in the thought process.

Despite everything around the Steele Dossier primarily inbound from Fusion-GPS and Chris Steele to the DOJ and FBI, the people creating the FISA illusion needed to use the State Department as a valid reference for fraudulent claims they were making.

From the beginning Fusion-GPS was not hired to research Donald Trump; the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a plausible justification for already existing surveillance and spy operations.  Fusion created the dossier for them.

The FBI knew Carter Page.  Essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep} as their insurance policy.

So there we see two parallel tracks; one from the CIA, and one from the FBI.  Both intended to provide a cover story for political surveillance and spy operations that preceded March 9, 2016. The CIA track created ‘crossfire hurricane’.  The FBI track created the Steele Dossier.  Both had the same purpose.

Both tracks originated from ‘unofficial channels’ and then transferred into official status through the use of two documents.  The CIA generated the two-page “EC”; and the FBI generated the FISA application from the Steele Dossier.

Both tracks held the same coverup purpose; both tracks were insurance policies; and both tracks merged for intelligence exploitation after President Trump won the election.  After the election the goal was shifted to remove the risk Trump represented.

Once they had the legal justifications for targeting Trump, albeit fraudulently obtained, the effort could move into phase three: by-the-book processes.  The FBI track evolved into the Mueller probe; that’s why the Dossier is so important to the validity of the special counsel.

Everything after March 9th, 2016, through today – is covering for everything that happened before March 9th when “contractors” were allowed by the FBI and DOJ to have weaponized access to the NSA database for political surveillance and spy operations.

This two-track process and ultimate merging is what all of the documentary evidence supports.  I suspect when the arc of the story concludes, this is where we will be.

The most important sentence in Judge Collyer’s brief:

 …”many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.”..

This Page #82 sentence specifically highlights that during the 2016 presidential campaign, those who had access to the NSA database were searching the same phone numbers, email addresses, electronic “identifiers”, or people, repeatedly over different dates.

Specific people were being tracked/monitored.

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573 Responses to Big Puzzle Pieces Connecting – The CIA, FBI, and 2016 Political Surveillance is Merging…

  1. Electra says:

    There’s one thing I would add to Sundance’s excellent analysis: It wasn’t just the CIA that was using spies to “dirty up” Trump associates. The FBI was doing it too. There was the infamous Natalia Veselnitskaya who is known for her part in the Trump Tower meeting. She had been banned from the country but got a special visa signed off by Preet Bahara of the FBI, Southern District of New York. Henry Greenburg, the known FBI informant who tried to entrap Roger Stone, also got a special visa. And I’m sure there are many more…

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    • beach lover says:

      excellent point!

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    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      I thought Preet was DOJ in NY, not FBI. Prosecutor, no?

      So many players, so little brain capacity left…

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      • Melinda Wolfe says:

        Give the most powerful agencies on Earth an all access pass to discover and destroy anyone, anywhere and then wonder in awe as they grind their way through people’s lives.
        Then, cue the refrain that the rank and file of these monstrosities are good and just.
        And finally, loudly exclaim that it’s the Constitution that concerns us all.

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      • Electra says:

        Whoops, you’re right. DOJ, Southern District of NY.☺️ But at any rate, he wasn’t CIA.

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        • jnr2d2 says:

          Sundance, I would like to add the political polling “panic” dates to your analysis. The La Times daily tracking poll was the most accurate public poll, and probably the Hillary campaign polls showed similar results.
          First, before the conventions Trump was 44% vs 40%. After Comey’s “NO action” July 5th, they moved to a tie. However, after the Republican convention Trump rockets to 47+% by the time of the DNC convention July 25-27th. This is the first critical “panic” demanding immediate action. So out comes Downer on the 26th, stimulated by Wikileaks Podesta email release which they conveniently “conflate” with Hillary’s server emails. Thus the action the next few days to start on July 31st, Crossfire Hurricane.
          Now after the DNC convention Hillary came back into a virtual tie and things bounced around till Sept 17 when Trump “brokr” out again running up to 47+% agian and Hillary slipping almost back to her percentage before her “exoneration” by Comey. This is the second panic and even greater since it is the time people generally start to focus on the election, especially with the upcoming debates. (Also note this was the discovery date on Weiner – and real motivation to hide that stuff as Trump was accelerating!). Trump stays mostly at his high until the “pussy” tapes, then its back to tied.
          But for the third time Trump accelerated back to his 47+% high by about October 26th. Thus, this last “panic” which is seen in the hurry up panic to get the FISA on Carter Page approved!

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          • The Phantom Stranger says:

            Thanks. It’s always important to remember the political context of how and when these decisions were being made. The Clintons and their circle have always been obsessed with poll watching, going back to their earliest days in politics. They don’t have a public opinion that hasn’t been focus-tested and measured, or made a decision without consulting political polling.

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          • Electra says:

            I was following the LA Times poll carefully because they were using a new methodology and were obviously getting more accurate results. It looks like the Bad Guys were following it, too.

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        • Fred Ward says:

          That we know of. A number of these people wore several hats.

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      • Rabbit266 says:

        It is interesting that Nunes brings out that the State Department is also involved in communicating this secret spy info with the Five Eyes? I think that is what he means about irregular activity in the State Department. And Mike Pompeo moved from CIA to run the State Department, a person of trust in Trump’s circle .

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    • Will Hunt says:

      The more this thread is pulled the scale and depth of the misdeeds become astounding.

      Liked by 5 people

      • RobInPA says:

        You are not following the script! Perhaps you missed a few doses of your blue pill?!
        Remember. . .
        “Not even a smidgen of corruption.”
        Have a very Deplorable Day!!

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      • tularevava says:

        I’m very concerned that so many of the DC politicians are up to their eyeballs in this scandal, that we will never see the justice we seek. Mainly because I suspect a number of republicans are involved in it also. I think there will be a concern that, so many Americans will be so ticked when we discover the depth and breadth of this corruption. Enough that the very fabric of our republic could be shattered. I think we need to know in order to root out the evil. But I fear it will be politicians making that decision.

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        • RobInPA says:

          Good point tula, and I have the same concerns as well.

          I’ve got to wonder if our VSG and POTUS has access to the list of the 450 or so ‘highly esteemed elected and non-elected’ gubbermint officials that tapped in the $17 MILLION DOLLAR taxpayer-funded slush fund to pay off those that they raped and/or otherwise sexually abused and/or harassed.

          Having a list like in PDJT’s back pocket could become pretty useful leverage, ‘to do the right thing’ for the greater good of the country (and The Children, of course).

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        • Excellent Post & will Barr have the fortitude to follow thru knowing Major Players are involved? I Pray He does. America cannot survive without the Coup Leaders being brought to Justice.

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        • CountryDoc says:

          “Everyone does it!!” Which makes it not only OK, but you are not “with the program” if you don’t go along. How in the heck do we get four generations of brainwashed Americans to restore their respect and fidelity to the principles and importance of our Constitution. We have allowed this chipping away for too long. The reasons for God’s instructions to the Isrealites becomes apparent. Here in America we are trying to reflect the same purposes of God for man: How do we give people freedom of choice, yet cause them to be internally motivated to be absolutely faithful to His universal principles?

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          • Fred Ward says:

            Start by disbanding the FBI. Transfer their mission to the Marshall’s Service. Screen each FBI agent, keep the good and trash the rest.


      • The Phantom Stranger says:

        Everyone involved on their side thought Trump had no chance at winning, which is why I believe they became so careless. If Hillary had won, none of this ever comes out.

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        • Please says:

          I feel it is more like they knew POTUSVSG was winning and *could* win, so they *had* to cheat *at all costs* because losing meant everyone being exposed for corruption.

          That is where we are now. It has taken 2.5 years to stop their corruption and MSM gaslighting spree.

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    • Preet Baharah just keeps resurfacing. He is another dirty DoJ employee who is woven into the web of the Black Widow spider or who is one more snake in the nest.
      There is no way this level of corruption was totally achieved in Obama’s 8 years. The mechanism was there, there have been dirty actors for probably 60 years or more (think Kennedy assassination) from both parties but all from the Deep State.
      The single most valuable thing that can come from all of this is the exposure of the Deep State members and what they have gained at the expense of the American taxpayer as well as what those who have bribed them have gotten.
      The message needs to be loud, clear and extremely punitive. We sit back and watch members of Congress go into office with modest means (as compared to career politicians) and leave office as multi-millionaires or billionaires. Sorry folks—you are just plain wrong for stealing from us. Let’s also include other government officials who accept bribes from the Fake News Media in exchange for leaks.
      It will be impossible to remove all political influence from governmental agencies but the punishment for using politics within the agencies. That snake has left the nest. We should, however, demand that blatant political bias be removed. This is not to say the removal of people should be merely based on party affiliation. I am constantly reminded in the past few weeks of the double standard within the AG’s office. Dems were mute over Holder and Fast and Furious (including a contempt of Congress citation) and Lo Lynch and Bubba’s rendezvous on the tarmac. It simply does not happen more IN YO FACE than that. There was no justification for either of these cases to have been overlooked. There is an ongoing investigation—excuse me, there are multiple ongoing investigations—into illegal activities now. The Dems are demanding that AG Barr break the law and release everything unredacted. It’s a guarantee that if he does, they will immediately DEMAND that he be arrested and charged with violating federal law. Boy, are they that stupid or do they believe WE are that stupid?

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      • John Denney says:

        In his early 1950’s autobiographical book, “Witness”, Whittaker Chambers states that in the 1920s the Soviets targeted three American institutions for infiltration: media, education, and unelected government positions. Once an agent was in place, he helped others come in, and hindered true and honest Americans from getting those positions. They were wildly successful, and have never been routed out.
        FDR’s right hand man, Alger Hiss, was one of them. He passed government documents to Mr. Chambers, who forwarded them to the Soviets, until the day Chambers realized there was indeed a God in heaven, and communism was evil.
        He eventually was a witness against Alger Hiss, presenting “The Pumpkin Papers”, government documents on microfilm that Hiss had given him, that Chambers had secreted in a pumpkin on his farm, as evidence.
        Hiss was only convicted of perjury, yet 50 years later, the Venona Project revealed that he was indeed spying for the Soviets.
        Senator Joe McCarthy was on to the government infiltration, but the infiltrated media destroyed him.
        Soviet aligned infiltrators are the source of the leftist media, leftist education system, and the Deep State. Even though the Soviet Union collapsed, these people carry on like zombies.

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        • CountryDoc says:

          Why is it still allowed? What keeps patriots from identifying them? What motivated the communists to continue as they are — and there are many? They do not seem to be able to get secondary gain compared to what they would get if they believed in the universal principles of goodness. What keeps us patriots from overwhelming the infiltrators? What keeps the infiltrators from keeping us at bay?

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          • John Denney says:

            They replicate, suppressing what is good about the U.S. and focusing on the bad. Suppressing what is bad about socialism/communism and focusing on the good. They are true believers who spawn more true believers.
            Some wake up, like author David Mamet, who wrote a book about it:

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      • jeff montanye says:

        i was pleased when mueller was named special counsel and i hoped it would, eventually, point to his first big corrupt investigation, that of 9-11, for the bush administration. donald trump, on the day of the attacks, said bombs must have been used to destroy the wtc, still anathema to the “official story.” so he looks like the best we truthers are likely to do for a president to bust the “new pearl harbor” in pnac’s deathless phrase.

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    • Larry says:

      I think it is important to determine how many FBI “actors” in all of this are “sheep dipped” CIA personnel. When the FBI is caught red-handed… don’t be surprised if the individuals are sheep dipped CIA personnel.

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      • Electra says:

        George Papa. maintains that Azra Turk, the woman who was sent to entrap him in London, was working for the CIA–NOT for the FBI as she was portrayed in yesterday’s NYT piece.

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        • mastafing says:

          One of the NYT reporters who wrote the FBI honeypot story was asked on CNN today whether honeypot “Azra Turk” worked for the FBI. His response: “I’m just going to leave it right now as a ‘government investigator.’ I use that wording for a reason, and I’m going to leave it at that.”

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      • The Phantom Stranger says:

        As they say in the Company, once CIA, always CIA. It wouldn’t be surprising if the CIA has active moles within most Federal agencies.

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    • Arby says:

      Samantha Powers, if I recall correctly, said that she did not authorize unmasking. Did the Special Counsel thoroughly investigate the who, what & why somebody was illegally using her access?

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      • Jederman says:

        The bottom line is that it was her account and she is responsible for it. The dog ate my homework thing won’t fly. It is a childish excuse. Probably a lie.

        She and whoever she MAY have shared her account privileges with need to be punished. They, like so many in that admin abused their fed authorities and privileges to harm innocent citizens they considered political opposition.

        I loathe them to my core. We knew they couldn’t be trusted but we had to play by the rules. They got the most votes so they were in charge. Then they use the system against political foes. Pure third world marxist abuse.

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      • The Phantom Stranger says:

        It can be investigated, but I’m sure it’s a dead end unless someone from the inside of Obama’s staff confesses. Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice and others are all primary suspects, or one of their trusted underlings.

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      • roddrepub says:

        I think AG Barr will look into that!

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      • CountryDoc says:

        I would think/pray/hope that it has been investigated and is already known

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    • cali says:

      @Electra: I think when all this is said and done there will be so many more players that were involved in this mass spy operation, espionage and treason against candidate and then president Trump involving all 5RYRS countries and others outside the quintet that its almost unbelieving that Europe’s enemies and those within all conspired to reverse the 2016 election results – each one for their own greedy and narcissistic reason.

      I find the Weissman report although credited to Robert Mueller to be misleading in the PapaD description of what actually was stated in his court documents vs what they stated in that report. At no time did PapaD ever approached the Trump campaign informing them about Russia having thousands of emails available to help the Trump campaign dirtying up HRC. This is just despicable.

      Scanning that report looks more like a amateurs or law student in training product and nothing even close to a professional trained or law certified investigator. It’s a laughable piece of junk with so many untruths and twisted words showing the hacks at work.

      Since Ukraine recently also admitted having interfered in the election although we are now getting the first batch of the Chalupa/HRC/Miranda troika collusion involving Steele paying Ukrainian reporters to write made up stories ‘from the top of their heads including salacious details’ to Chalupa’s lobbying the Ukrainian president et al – it gets more and more serious in the scope they cooked this up – the Hussein gang and the HRC/state department gang – wow.

      I was wondering about three or four months ago why the Chalupa hack hired Michael Avenatti to represent her. I wonder how that is going?

      @Sundance : Keep it coming as you are a gem in the pool of trustworthy sources which are few in between.

      What unites all these shady characters from the various countries plus all the 5EYES is the fact that they are all members of Hakluyt in the UK – the CIA/MI6/MI5/SIS and GCHQ that also counts Fusion GPS, CrowdStrike and Nellie Ohr among others. The 5EYES have now been unmasked as nothing more than the spy agency for the CIA and their partners in the UK having spied for a long time on any- and everybody outside of the law of the US.
      Since these 4 private contractors were using the NSA since 2012 is it any wonder how they rammed Obamacare and their other unconstitutional agenda? Blackmail was the method used for compliance or destruction of every opponent or anyone posing a danger to their agenda of discovery. No wonder so many people committed these ‘suicides’ and in 2016 latter part of the year were about 5 or 6 alone. Strange how that happens.

      *******I think its appropriate for all of us reading here daily to dig a bit deeper to help Sundance along to bear the cost of his daily massive research and time consumption!!!

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    • JL says:

      Henry Greenberg is a bit of an oddity.

      I can’t decide if he was acting as an FBI informant, was acting as an FBI informant and a loose cannon, or if he’s just a loose cannon that at one time snitched for the FBI.

      The reason we know he is/was an FBI informant is because he FOIA’d his records proving the relationship and then publicly filed them with a court to try to prevent his deportation.

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  2. jleonard14 says:

    I believe the two biggest surprises that will go down in this are …Mark Warner and John Roberts.

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  3. Texan says:

    Sundance –

    Per your comment that the FBI was desperate to gain a FISA warrant to cover the previous four years of spying and used Page for that purpose via the State Department, didn’t the FBI already have a FISA warrant on Manafort in place and therefore wouldn’t have needed a warrant for Page to solve their issues? Or do you believe the FBI received FISA warrants on Page, Flynn, Manafort and Papadopoulos at the same time in Oct 2016?

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  4. bluebongo says:

    I’ve said several times here, a T-1 warrant utilizes the entire spectrum of intelligence assets to accomplish the mission. The interagency includes all the 3 letters, the military, and law enforcement. Hell Trumps own Secret Service could be used against him. Devices in the Oval Office, very sophisticated satellites, electronic monitoring of all systems of communication, his bedroom, Mar-a-Lago, undercover agents, and paid informants. All of this is exploitable. Everything is a potential source of information.

    All of the data is pumped into a “fusion cell” aka “the room”, where teams of analysts synthesize it into useful data points. A pattern of life is developed. Analysts use this POL to predict behavior. It’s highly effective. The target is predictably fixed for prosecution….in this case publicly.

    It worked downrange, they didn’t do anything different here.

    There is much more to come….

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    • stripmallgrackle says:

      Nixon was excoriated for calling on the CIA to help him cover up a few Executive ‘No-no’s’. I seem to remember the words “checks and balances” being bandied about, but it was kind of hard to tell if that’s what was being said, what with the CACAphony of screams and howls as the entire liberal establishment kind of drowned itself out.

      I’m sure the left’s moral outrage is coming to a slow boil as the details of activity inside the Obama Department of Dirty Tricks begin dribbling out. And it’s beginning to look like Nixon’s lil Mom and Pop operation was nothing compared to Obamaco’s fully owned, multinational subsidiary. That should be enough to put any true civil libertarian on the warpath. Of course, I’ve been wrong before.

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      • Blind no longer says:

        Maxine Waters told us all long ago just what Barrack Obama was doing:

        “The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life,” Representative Maxine Waters told Roland Martin on Monday.

        “That’s going to be very, very powerful,” Waters said. “That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place.”

        Via Free Republic:

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    • The Gipper Lives says:

      Secret Service chief recently fired…

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    • Jederman says:

      Meanwhile, real threats slip through the cracks and are wandering around undetected.

      Liked by 1 person


    Just another incredible piece of work by CTH.
    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again (and today’s slandering of Honey Badger Barr proves it out), the media MUST be exposed and shamed in a very high profile way to shake the drone masses from their media imposed echo chamber.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Weasel dog;
      We have been assuming the press were all complicit, cause they are all lefties.

      If you had such a set up, why not USE it, to compromise the media.

      As you envision that, remember the emails to Podesta from reporters, where they included an attachment of an article they had written, for Podesta to ‘approve’, BEFORE sending it to their editor.
      They were obsequious, the waybyou would be to someonevwhobwas blackmailing you.

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  6. TheUnknownPatriot says:

    Interesting that this started the same year General Patreus stepped down as the director of the CIA. How did they find out he told his girlfriend about classified information anyway?

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    • Lady Sid says:

      ‘Cuz Obama knew all about Petraeus when he hired him. It’s called leverage. Also, Mrs. Petraeus received a nice gig with the Elizabeth Warren consumer finance office, as she was concerned about the lower paid enlisted troops and their families getting screwed over in their mortgage situations.

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    • william elbel says:

      with regard to Patraeus email: he never did send her an email but gave her his password to look in his drafts folder!
      How the heck did they stumble on that? He or she must have been wired or tapped.

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      • Jederman says:

        I always thought she was not who she claimed to be.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

          Ex-CIA director David Petraeus told friends he was shocked to find that his biographer and girlfriend, Paula Broadwell, was suspected of sending anonymous, threatening emails to one Jill Kelley, a Petraeus friend she saw as a romantic rival.

          One Natalie Khawam, is Jill Kelley’s twin. Her sister received threatening emails from General David Petraeus’ mistress, Paula Broadwell. The CIA Director Petraeus got alarmed when he found out that last summer that his lover was sending emails warning her to keep her distance from him.

          Tampa,FL 2/27/18 – The Florida Supreme Court has publicly reprimanded Tampa lawyer Natalie K. Khawam, the sister of Jill Kelley, the Tampa socialite who helped expose the 2012 sex scandal that led to the resignation of former CIA Director David Petraeus.
          The Florida Bar said Tuesday that Khawam acknowledged charging a client excessive fees. She is the president and founder of the Whistleblower Law Firm.

          Yes, that whole hot mess was a setup, no doubt.
          The Democrat Media Complex destroyed General Petraeus.

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          • Doppler says:

            Thanks for this update on the Patraeus foray into honeypot land, D_V. I recall some FBI agent sending bare chest photos to one of the FL twins was part of the background, for how the story “came out,” or was “rolled out” maybe.

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    • Deacon says:

      Have you heard about FISA 702 About queries? 😜

      Liked by 1 person

  7. Countrywatch says:

    “I will be declassifying everything…” DJT in this interview:

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  8. Dr.Jay says:

    This subtle but important distinction in contact and communication reconciles the statement by Devin Nunes; because Thompson is also a reported intelligence operative (spy) and information from her would not be passing through “Five Eyes” official channels. However, for their intents and purposes, the U.S. operation needed to give the appearance of official channels, so the *inference* between the claim and the footnote *implies* Ambassador Downer. But you can see that’s not actually what happened.

    CORRECTION: Actually it WOULD have been intelligence IF she had reported it to the Australian government at the time, or any time before July 26, 2016. But SHE DIDN’T.
    Hence the importance of Nunes remarks. It was not even Five Eye intelligence.

    So how did it end up at the FBI?
    Again read Nunes statement: via the State Department.

    So how did it end up at the State Department: well logically via the US embassy in London.

    My understanding is that Erica Thompson told some staffer at the US embassy that she THOUGHT SHE HEARD SOMETHING about Hillary’s emails from a campaign operative of Trump, several weeks earlier (on May 6th). And Eric told her friend at the US embassy that some time late July 2016 apparently.


    Mind you an alternative route is possible, but IDK which one would end up being NOT official intelligence and/or NOT via AUS government. Halper, Downer and Mifsud have several MI6 and Hakluyt connections to one another (*), so this smells like a set-up. If so, wouldn’t they make sure that somehow word got out in a more formal way?
    Or perhaps they did not succeed (the recording of Downer had nothing on PapaD, so he wasn’t going to swear to a lie)? And then some other excuse had to be created? One that they could later disown. As they must because the truth was that PapaD didn’t repeat that rumor from Mifsud…

    (*) Links

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      Typo: “And Eric told her friend at the US embassy ”
      That was Erica of course, not Eric.


    • Dr.Jay says:

      They are giving cover to the reality that unofficial intelligence was the actual basis for the originating “EC” or two-page electronic communication from CIA Director John Brennan to FBI Director James Comey. It was that 2-page EC, likely written by FBI counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok, that initiated “Crossfire Hurricane”.

      I think the technical term would not be ‘unofficial intelligence’, but more ‘hearsay’.

      We really need to see that 2-page EC, all of it.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      US Embassies include CIA personnel operating undercover with State Department job titles. They also have overt FBI attaches. Not very hard to imagine such persons channeling anti-Trump “intel” to DC: a) themselves, using their State Dept jobs; b) via pro-Hillary “diplomats” known to them at the embassy; or, c) via unwitting embassy personnel just doing their job “by the book” when intel magically falls over the transom. The communications channels would likely have been planned out by the CIA/FBI operation managers before Turk, Halper, or Downer met with Papadopoulus.


  9. sysconfig says:

    Far be it from me to imply these outstanding pillars of the Intelligence Community were up to anything in March 2019..But I can’t help but notice their penchant for meeting at cocktail parties and Dinners..and family cookouts like the cyber conference at RSA in that same month to discuss business..under guise of something else….It wasn;t imo just CIA and FBI ..if you read all the way to the the advertisement by Atlantic Council.

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      Interesting. And I see Dimitri A. of CrowdStrike was there as well in this nice get together on March 4, 2016. But then he is also a member of the Atlantic Council.

      A bit too early form them to be colluding I would think.
      Even Podesta’s emails hadn’t been hacked at that time … so … just a coincidence?

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      • sysconfig says:

        If we know that crowdstrike was already under contract with DOJ since 2014..then brung in December 2015 to :audit the infamous Bernie breach” and within days of that Brent Budowski of hill wrote to Podesta about hammering Russians.Then you have the events jan to March…I find it curious he didt spot Russian bears until his software he had loaned HRC lit up in April, resulting in Michael Sussman, ex Doj. and Perkins Man called him in…HRC would have no problem using Russians as that very same time she was under a cloud for Moneylaundering and her victory fund..It looks like a tad more than coincidence to me..She didnt believe it herself actually as the book shattered claims she drummed it up post election in November..But certainly these other folx seemed to have thought it up a lot sooner than that..just sayin


        • farrier105 says:

          Sussman is a key to this thing since he implied in a quote in the NYT (link below) that the alleged Russian hackers were not purging system logs on a regular basis to eliminate forensic evidence of their presence on the network. It seems the Russians had to be doing that in 2015, when Comey had SA Hawkins telephoning DNC about Russian hackers from “the Dukes” inside their network and transmitting to Moscow. Yared Tamene could not find anything in the logs that indicated any hackers were in the network in late 2015.

          “You only get one chance to raise the drawbridge,” Mr. Sussmann said. “If the adversaries know you are aware of their presence, they will take steps to burrow in, or erase the logs that show they were present.”

          Tamene reported serious activity only on April 29, 2016 when a real time alert was triggered. My own opinion is this was SOCIAL ENGINEERING to prompt that kind of response. Russian agents moved at will inside that network for nearly a year suddenly gets detected? Someone wanted an Incident Response team in there, and Crowdstrike had been in there earlier on the Bernie deal.

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          • Dr.Jay says:

            >> Yared Tamene could not find anything in the logs that indicated any hackers were in the network in late 2015.

            Either that person is completely inapt, or that is a lie. The Dutch told them enough details to be able to find the infection.

            They (DNC) simply refused to do anything with the MONTHLY warnings from the FBI, passing along the Dutch warning (activity from IP x to IP y, where y= C&C of the Dukes), even when the FBI visited in PERSON, because the DNC kept using excuses (Oh was that the FBI?, we didn’t know, etc).

            No why would they do that?

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            • sysconfig says:

              Noteworthy is that the NYT in their propaganda piece in Dec 2017 how the Russians Did it passed him off as a low level clerk,,He was in actuality The VP of MIS going back years for the DNC to this Day..and they still are doing business. To act like its first day on a job was disingenuous and for the reporter not following up…very very telling. In June 2015 before Hawkins went to the DNC The company that manage s their password system was breached.a real hack…this was in a post by Yared on Facebook. a leave things sloppy to give yourself plausible deniability such as when money is missing..or records stolen..or laptops missing..or votes missing..

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            • farrier105 says:

              If it was the Dutch who told them that it is likely that this was the REAL Russian hack, which was very brief, and resulted in the Russians grabbing the “Lynch Letter.” It was Dutch Intelligence that saw the Lynch Letter in “Moscow Center.” If true, it is very likely we are going through all of this because of that letter which has now been classified SENSITIVE COMPARTMENTED INFORMATION and is the only unverified document in the Trump-Russia-Wikileaks affair that has NOT been leaked.

              We know what it said, but we cannot see it, while the media asserts the letter is forged. You don’t make a forgery SCI.


            • farrier105 says:

              Oh, let me know where you got the stuff about Dutch Intelligence. That information should set the Lynch Letter theft sometime about between July and November 2015.

              As far as Yared Tamene is concerned, I think the Russians kept purging the logs as they went along, eliminating all signs of their presence, and they really didn’t stay very long after grabbing the Lynch Letter.


          • Maybe the reason Hill’s crew was not concerned about hackers is that they were “given” access to her server in exchange for extremely generous contributions to the Clinton Foundation or Clinton Global Initiative. Question is, how was the donation laundered?

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            • farrier105 says:

              The emails were either stolen by Crowdstrike while they had control of the network, or they let the FBI come in and steal the emails. That’s just a theory based on a simple solution that answers all the questions according to Occam’s Razor.


  10. Tim says:

    someone needs to setup a searchable database of all the illegal contactor searches of the NSA database. Call the web site You type in your name or mobile email and it lists how much they searched. This might help get the public interested. Similar to for email addresses where passwords are compromised.

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  11. Jenevive says:

    since it looks like both CIA and State Dept may have been
    involved I do wonder.. POTUS put Mike Pompeo in as CIA
    directors First..Maybe Mike was able to get the goods , then
    POTUS moves him to State Department..Maybe Mike got the goods
    there too.. Notice how almost no one attacks Pompeo or bad talks

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    • beach lover says:

      Yet! Just wait until they think he might have some information and has been giving it to the President.

      They are going to be so busy shooting the messenger, they won’t have time to know who to target!

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  12. Blind no longer says:

    Sally, Sally. Sally…the proof is all there, YOU knew what you were doing…covering up for illegal CIA/FBI/IC spying in the USA by your boss Barrack Hussein Obama…YOU’RE BOTH GOING DOWN!!! Along with many others. I believe it’s going to happen now. The Declass is going to be fabulous. Make it rain Mr. President!!!

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  13. CountryDoc says:

    We must keep these rats stirred up. They are all cornered. Poke sticks in all the hidey holes, set traps, set smoke fires, shine bright lights in all the dark corners. Their stories will all start going different directions now, confirming motives, forcing them to betray one another or themselves, perjure themselves, or reveal the treason, sedition, selfish motives, greed, and absolute disregard of the U.S Constitution of the American People.

    They can no longer claim to be working for the good of the people. All they can do is point fingers at our very stable President, and the growing number of emboldened citizens. Notice there are only a few visible white hats, but, we are legion, and we are all watching them like hawks — no like Eagles. Noticing every blade of grass moved by their slithering activities.

    There is a swelling army of Patriots leaving our fields, commenting to each other, preparing to do what it takes to address the cold anger that has been rising for years. The day is coming, for us to confront them, and we will not shirk, or be ignored. We will not return to our fields without the peace of knowing our Divine freedoms to reflect the glory of our Creator are again being protected.

    Our great Lion has changed his walk into a gentle lope, calmly calling out what he sees. We see you more clearly by every passing day, we see your tracks, your wake of destruction, enslavement, and extortion of We the People and fruits of our hard labor; the abuse of our trust. We smell the stench of your greed and rottenness. Even those you thought you had thoroughly deceived are waking up, and they will be the angriest. If there is grace and mercy, it will have to come from God, because there will be none here on earth for you when we restore the function to our neglected Constitution, remove the cobwebs and entanglements of Lady Liberty’s scales of Justice removed.

    We are a people who paid for this sacred home with blood and built our bulwarks on the principles of the Truth of our Creator. Despite your most conniving efforts, His Spirit still flows deep in our hearts and our veins. In contrast to the love and benevolence of our God, the vile and putrid purpose visible in the words you say and the results of your work are toxic to us and we must be rid of you. All of you — the leaders, and those of you who just went along with complicity, because you thought “that’s just the way it is” — must be taken down, neutralized, and their means of operation permanently destroyed.

    When you are defeated, we will be stronger and wiser and more benevolent to the world as a nation than we have ever been.

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    • NoNo Pelosi is scared to death. I can’t decide if NoNads is scared or if his years of hating Trump are just an opportunity he cannot ignore, Comey is out again hoping to avoid the firing squad, Obama fears the circular firing squad, Rosenstain looked terrified when Barr read the statement they created, Brennan and Clapper keep making wilder accusation on the flagship Fake News stations, and on and on…

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  14. Bobster says:

    I have read here that FISA warrents are retroacive. Does that mean law enforcement is allowed to look at stored data or that it covers previous access carried out without a FISA warrent?


    • Doppler says:

      I believe NSA’s PRISM and related programs collect every bit of digital information going over the internet globally. Then you can query it, and get everything related to a particular device, phone number, person, etc. I believe you select the timeframe as part of the query, but certainly retroactive access would be possible.

      I’ve wondered about how the FBI runs court-ordered surveillance in this era. Do they set up new “wiretaps,” or do they just get access to everything already stored at NSA, which would be much more efficient, and potentially yield retroactive data, as well. If so, FBI would be conducting large-scale access to these data-bases for domestic surveillance as part of routine law enforcement. An interagency memorandum between FBI and CIA could then seek to “hide” illegal CIA domestic surveillance beneath FBI’s high-volume, routine law enforcement domestic searches. Contractors, and dual-report CIA-FBI personnel, could manage the coordination. The Bruce & Nellie Ohr pair, in the 2015 email exchanges previously released, look like an ongoing intelligence sharing operation between the two agencies, including for various legitimate purposes.

      Another possibility that has bothered me is that, once FBI has access to NSA’s PRISM database, and mechanisms to “hide” that access, they’d be tempted in routine law enforcement to “pre-look,” before dedicating scarce resources to obtain search warrants, to confirm that a particular suspect is worth investigating. Any such activity, of course, would violate the 4th Amendment, and jeopardize any convictions obtained. It would be “pre-tasting” the fruit of the poisonous tree. If that is part of what has been going on, thousands of federal prisoners might have grounds to nullify their convictions. Since most of them are well-deserving of their sentences, the “institution” would have reason to keep it hidden. Most of those not involved in managing it wouldn’t even know about it, and would be very bitter if years of their legitimate work were undermined by corrupt management.

      I think President Trump himself has said that maybe not everything will get disclosed. To me, it’s a cancer, and needs to be completely removed.


      • The Phantom Stranger says:

        I think that is partially what has happened. Constitutional issues would arise in criminal convictions if what you suppose is true.

        Completely revealing the entire operation against Trump and every government tool used would have massive consequences on how the FBI, CIA and other intel agencies currently operate. They are not going to give up those powers without a fight.


  15. Timothy Schwartz says:

    I love CTH!

    But, to try and read this article, one has to be bombarded with the same ad for a gut doctor THIRTEEN TIMES! Absurd. Can even read a single paragraph without this reoccurring nonsense popping up and interfering. PLEASE TAKE ACTION AND CORRECT THIS. You need advertising, and I’m sure your readers understand. But try to go back and read your own article and see if you don’t think there might be a problem here.

    Freedom First! ~ Timothy Schwartz



  16. Cheesehead54016 says:

    Thanks SD. These summaries and thorough timeline descriptions really do help and allow non-investigators the ability to know how events unfolded. The Cover Up is usually worse than the original crime but in this case both the crimes before March 9 2016 and after March 9 2016 are a terrible abuse of power and assault on our legal system and election system. The BHObama State Dept, CIA, FBI and probably several other agencies are looking worse every day to anybody starting to pay more attention. To those that have been paying attention the unknowns are starting to make sense and reinforces our support for the process of Draining the Swamp and prosecuting the folks that made very poor decisions.


  17. Bulldog84 says:

    Didn’t Priestap go to London in the summer of 2016? Regardless, I suspect he is up to his eyeballs in this mess.


    • Chewbarkah says:

      This needs verification, but IIRC Priestap was in London at the exact time Crossfire Hurricane spies were having a run at Papadopoulus. Was yesterday’s NYT article designed to put the hounds onto a Priestap scent trail? (If so, who wanted to divert attention from themselves?)


  18. beach lover says:

    I have a question that may be obvious to all of you, but what started the O administration’s unmaskings in 2012? Was it because he won reelection and thought he had no one to tell him he couldn’t?

    Was it maybe to see what was being said about Benghazi? IRS scandal? Did this start because of the IRS scandal? This is an Obama led scandal. He did it to help Hillary, but he did it (and those around him) because 1. they could. and 2. they thought they would get away with it.

    Then they tried to cover it up but justifying it. I hope they get them all under indictments.. every single one of them.


    • Spectre says:

      It was in O’s nature. He’s a thug. Remember how he won his senate seat? unsealing divorce file on his opponent.

      There were cookies in the cookie jar. Was as simple as that.

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      • jx says:

        Unsealing his opponent’s divorce was “in the public interest” but his identity is not, it must remain secret. I’ve always wanted to know who got to that judge in California. Then later, Malihi and Kemp are fishy as well.


      • Jederman says:

        A thug who hid behind a presidential podium.

        Most people who were in the service will agree, it would have taken about ten minutes for all to realize he’s about as heavy as a feather.

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    • When he saw he could swat the Tea Party via IRS he felt there was no stopping him. He knew that he had many Communist sympathizers in and on his team that he could manipulate. He already had “his boy” as AG and knew that he would never be touched. I only hope I get to see that hubris slapped down.

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    • I dated one of the globalist cronies. Quite by accident I learned the assumption that accompanied the Hildebeast’s campaign and presumption of triumph. He told me because like most of the vainglorious globalists he believed that the globalist cause was righteous and I could not help but be allied with him in thought.

      They ARE that arrogant and insulated.

      Apparently all during the Obama years (when coincidentally nearly every one of the hundreds of small, uncharted islands were bought by millionaires. I know this because I was looking into buying one or two with a group of 40 or so people), there was the expectation that each of the millionaires – ‘humble’ enough to admit that no one person could save the world – would focus on a region of the world that they could invest in and train the people to become financially successful.

      There would be NO effort to defend or resolve any areas where strife or violence, or anything that proved too obstructive to positive response to money invested in the region, existed.

      PUt bluntly, when I asked about places like hte Sudan and war targeted areas, the response was a pragmatic ‘shrug’. There would be NO shedding blood for any cause, theirs is a bloodthirsty, cold and calculating war. No courage of conviction, pure and unadulterated greed and arrogant elitism, rationalizing the death of BILLIONS of people with their disingenuous OR genuine belief in the debunked overpopulation myth that the planet can really only sustain 500 million people.

      this is why you see no outrage against genocide by Islam, by gangs, by abortion and by exposing whole populations to long cured disease.

      Obama, from day one, was backed by Soros and Schmidt and Zuckerberg and Bezos and most of the tech billionaires (not Jobs and I don’t think by Ellison), all of whom were in league with him to create that ‘private militia’ to which Obama first alluded during his first campaign, when he mentioned a power greater than military, police and armed citizenry combined; the same to which Maxine Waters so arrogantly alluded.

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      • Your Tour Guide says:


        Around 10 years ago a lot of the people who had helped
        ruin metro Atlanta were buying property in Costa Rico.

        They were even advertising in local publications that
        THOSE WHO MATTER were sure to read. Thought
        at the time that
        1. They were getting out while the getting was good.
        2. They’d never, ever, ever, claim any guilt for being
        the ones that had created the crisis they were
        fleeing from.

        What you’re outlining sounds very similar, only
        higher up the chain. Was this the type of incidences
        you were hearing about?


      • The Phantom Stranger says:

        I’ve heard New Zealand repeatedly mentioned in the scenario you laid out as an escape outlet for the globalists. The globalist rich think living on an island cut off from everything is the best option in case urban civilization collapses.

        Notice how Obama set up a palatial estate in Hawaii.


    • Linda K. says:

      I wonder if it started even earlier. Look how John Roberts contorted the law to approve Obamacare. Did they spy on the Judges and other political opponents? Was Roberts blackmailed? He oversees the FISA court.

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      • RobInPA says:

        Maybe you can ask that question of the Clinton Crime Syndicate, as they and their minions have been slithering and flopping around in the turgid ooze of The Swamp for a very long time.

        In fact, to the questions that beach lover asks above, it would not surprise me in the least if CROOKED hilz ‘mentored’ the Crimson Kenyan, in the sunset years of her mission as SOS to “put to good use” the tools at his disposal to control and destroy their political enemies.

        “Heyyyy there Braaaack, you could easily have anyone in the world bent over a barrel if you just abuse your power a little weencie bit. I’m a seasoned pro at this and would be happy to show you some really dirty tricks that we can both benefit from. I won’t tell if you won’t tell. O.K. Barry? Deal?!”


  19. cantcforest says:

    Warner – Good chance.
    Roberts – not so much


  20. Bogeyfree says:

    So why can’t Tom Fitton request or sue for a FOIA listing all FBI contractors who accessed the NSA database from 2012-2015?

    IMO the best part of focusing and exposing 2009-2015 spying now is, it’s not contaminated with any of the Russia/Trump cover up/distraction, meaning once this exposure begins they can’t stop it or defend it.


    • beach lover says:

      If he could get them, I’m sure he will! Most of this stuff has been held back for years from him because of the “ongoing investigation” bullSchiff.

      Mueller/Weismann drug this out as long as they could. I think they heard the heavy breathing of Barr down the back of their necks. Weismann is a thug of the first order. When the indictments are handed down.. I sure hope there is one with his name on it!

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  21. MILupper says:

    The 2012 estimated start date of the CIA-FBI MOU is very curious.

    Robert Mueller was FBI director from 9-2001 through 9-2013.

    CIA directors around this time are:

    Leon E. Panetta (February 13, 2009–June 30, 2011)
    Gen. David Petraeus, U.S. Army (September 6, 2011–November 9, 2012)
    John Brennan (March 8, 2013–January 20, 2017)

    I believe the MOU happened during Panetta’s time at CIA. Him and Mueller were old Clinton Cronies. Also Mueller was term limited out in 2011 except for a congressional extension of 2 years.
    Would have been difficult to hide the start of this program from a new CIA director for too long. At the time Obama wanted Mueller to stay longer than 2 years.

    Gen. Petraeus was appointed to get Obama through the 2012 election and then driven out before he could find all that was going on.

    Brennan took over and the program went into overdrive with Comey’s assistance.


    • The Phantom Stranger says:

      Thinking about it now, Panetta may have been the man to bring this plan to the Obama team in the first place at the suggestion of the Clintons.


  22. Robert W Van Brunt says:

    The name’s Obama, Barry Obama double naught zero spy


  23. Linda K. says:

    It is interesting that Nunes brings out that the State Department is also involved in communicating this secret spy info with the Five Eyes? I think that is what he means about irregular activity in the State Department. And Mike Pompeo moved from CIA to run the State Department, a person of trust in Trump’s circle .


  24. TomA says:

    It wasn’t just a coverup operation that began after the March 9, 2016 exposure by Mike Rogers’ NSA investigation. Contingency plans for a Republican Campaign take-down were prepared in the Fall of 2015 (which covered most Republican candidates including Trump). It was only during early 2016 when Trump emerged as the leading candidate that he became the main focus of their attention. It was at a meeting in the Whitehouse in February 2016 that the issue came to head and the take-down operation was green-lighted. Brennan was tasked with fleshing out the details and orchestrating the operation primarily using CIA assets and contractors. He also recruited the Brits and Ausies during this time frame. Comey’s FBI was slower to spin up, but eventually took the lead and spearheaded the transition from coverup to coup after the election.

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  25. Judy says:

    Can anyone intelligently speculate why it was revealed that Nellie Ohr has been referred to DOJ for prosecution & why now? Also, why haven’t named individuals referred by Rep Nunes been revealed? Thanks!


  26. Vipereatr says:

    Is Azra Turk a pseudonym for Astro Turf?


  27. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    More recently the honorable William P. Barr was sworn in as US Attorney general. Soon thereafter perhaps he had a sit down with Rod Rosenstein regarding the overall scope and the current status of the Mueller Investigation. He then requested a meeting with the Special Counsel in Barr’s new corner office.

    An imaginary meeting.

    Barr ~ “OK now Bob; what was the basis for your investigation?”
    Mueller ~ “Oh, there were indications that Moscow had conspired with the Trump campaign.”
    Barr ~ “OK Bob, did you find any evidence whatsoever of that alleged Russian conspiracy?”
    Mueller ~ “Um, no sir we did not.”
    Barr ~ ” OK Bob, you may leave now and have your report on my desk in 30 days.”
    Mueller ~ “But, but that could take time and we have secured funding through the Summer.”
    Barr ~ ” No. Shut it down NOW! Not 6 months. Not 3 months.”
    Mueller ~ “Uh, I will do what I can and get the team right on it.”
    Barr ~ “GTHO of my office!”

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  28. Pokey says:

    I wish all the despicable Commies would get exposed and then prosecuted. If that were imminent, I think more of them would be squacking by now. For now, I stick with my opinion that no Democrat will ever be prosecuted for their participation in this fiasco. The whole effort is to protect Barack Obama from any culpability on any level. Even though all the trails lead directly to Obama, our first half black President will never even get implicated. I say he has his sculpture on Mt. Rushmore before anything he ever did will ever be examined.

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    • RobInPA says:

      You are probably correct that president stompy-foot, aka choom-boy, aka the teleprompter-in-chief, aka barry hussein sotero, aka the crimson kenyan, aka the little hadji that could, will not be cited for jay walking let alone being brought up on the serious charges that he ought to be charged with, but when after the swamp is carpet bombed with 500 Cluster-MOAB’s, I will be satisified to see his entire eight-long year presidency and his so-called ‘legacy’ and that of all of his minions, reduced to nothing more than a smoldering steaming lifeless hole in the ground, devoid of anything and everything of substance

      Yeah, he’ll ‘untouched’ as it were, but he will forever be throughout the annals (because barry would like that! LOL!!) a stand-alone Pariah!

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  29. OldParatrooper says:

    There is another thread that needs to be pulled. Two DIA employees at the London Embassy met four times with Papadop. They claim it was because of personal curiosity about the Trump Campaign. I’m not convinced. If they were directed by DIA to be curious, there will be emails on JWICs or SIPRNET conveying their conclusions back to DC. If they were encouraged by the London CoS, the messages would be on the CIA system.


  30. dwpender says:

    A few weeks ago John Solomon was talking about a bombshell report “next week” about a January, 2016 that was the real kickoff for Spygate. Have I missed this report, or is it another in a long list of (seemingly endless) “upcoming attractions”?


  31. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Expect the crooks may try to get out of this
    by claiming that the whole Russian collusion thing
    was all just a big misunderstanding; so never mind.

    On to the next street theatre distraction event.


  32. Sherri Young says:

    Here is the unclassified version of the Report on the President’s Surveillance Program dated 10 July 2009 and produced by the IG’s for DoD, DOJ, NSA, CIA, and ODNI.

    Probably contains a lot of answers on domestic spying prior to 2009.


  33. Palmettoman says:

    The thing that intrigues me is that once Adm. Rogers informed POTUS-elect he was being illegally spied on, Trump, once inaugurated, could then use the same apparatus LEGALLY to track down the ones doing the illegal spying.

    Imagine all that POTUS has on the conspirators that hasn’t yet been made public…

    Now that he’s past the Mueller fiasco, he can begin to use all of this info to prosecute the ones who participated in the coup.

    The dems’ attacks on Barr are meant to diminish and disqualify the person who will be leading the prosecutions.

    Fun times are coming!!!

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  34. Rose says:

    Anyone else petrified that the same clowns entrusted with national security ran a spy ring made up of morons and liberal idiots? No wonder they did nothing about their fore knowledge of 911, to busy recruiting dimwits to role play at being Russian spies. These people sicken me, has the CIA really become that kind of sick clown show?

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  35. concerned3 says:

    It’s been said that felons repeat their behavior. So I would like to remind us of this recent headline.

    “NEW: Dem Reps. Cummings, Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff Sign Secret “Memos of Understanding” to “Target” Trump with Investigations”

    If the CIA and FBI signed this “inter-agency memorandum of understanding” did Cummings, Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff know about it?

    So how would Maxine Waters, know about the “inter-agency memorandum of understanding”. Say, from her work on the Gang-Of-Eight. Remember that Sundance has told us that the Gang-Of-Eight has responsibility for IC oversight.

    I would also remind us of the recent statement from Maxine Waters, calling AG Barr a lier. Is it because she has allot to lose, if AG Barr does investigate?

    Did Paul Ryan hand the speakership over to Maxine Waters in order to keep the illegal actions of the Gang-Of-Eight from 2012, covered-up?

    Every-time Sundance reveals more, I am left with more questions.


  36. zephyrbreeze says:

    The first link doesn’t go to the article in the New York Times, and I can’t find it at the NYT’s.


  37. unfolder says:

    Do we have confidence that the AG and the IG are as up to speed on the intricacies of this plot as Sundance is?

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  38. Rick says:

    Thanks Sundance, well done as always! One pattern emerged from the CIA operation that should come back to haunt them. Not one time did a Trump campaign member reach out to a Russian, looking for Hillary’s emails.

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  39. 6x47 says:

    “Remember, everything AFTER March 9th, 2016, is a cover-story. Everything after March 9th, 2016, are operations from both the CIA and FBI to hide the political surveillance that was going on before March 9th, 2016. The surveillance was happening through exploitation of the NSA database through unauthorized FISA search queries; and involved both the CIA and FBI.”

    Obama was running his own secret police force, spying on American citizens, journalists, AND political opponents (and likely allies as well). If he was spying on the Trump campaign in 2015 when Trump was the darkest of dark horses, he was spying on EVERYONE. And it had been going on for YEARS before the 2016 election.

    THAT’S the real scandal. And when THAT finally breaks … stand by. It will be glorious.

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    • chuckyschmucky says:

      We know for a fact that they had been spying on reporters, citizens and members of Congress. And used the same kind of legal chicanery to justify it (accusing reporters of being foreign agents under espionage laws) and then issuing abject denials until those denials became untenable. Not to mention using all government agencies to attack political opponents (IRS, EPA, etc).

      This is a well-established pattern with these totalitarian creeps. And they were never held to account, either by Congress or the corrupt leftwing media, which would yawn at the corruption. So naturally they felt emboldened and untouchable. And they got so comfortable and adept at using government to attack their political enemies that they got careless. But that didn’t matter, because SHE would be there to clean up the mess.



  40. Tom Savage says:

    Sundance is a genius, thank you. But the question I struggle with is: What was/is driving these players in such a high risk activity? “Blind no longer” gave us a clue by reminding us of what Maxine Waters said about an Obama data base: “The President has put in place an organization with the kind of data base that no one has ever seen before in life.” We can surmise that this is a clandestine organization, and that the data was gathered through legal (google, FB, TWT) and illegal (NSA) surveillance, and was used in the 2018 election. What if this is the hidden treasure that must be protected at all cost?


  41. chucknorrisrules says:

    Now ask yourself: Who was the Director of the FBI in 2012 when the CIA and FBI entered into this Memorandum of Understanding to illegally spy on Americans? Trump is just the tip of the iceberg.

    That’s right, one Robert Mueller.


  42. nimrodman says:

    Just a small point, but this statement from the Weissman-Mueller report about the May 6th meeting between George Papadopoulos and Erika Thompson:is an outright lie:

    …”that the Trump campaign had received information from the Russian government that it could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton.”

    The information wasn’t received from the Russian government, the information was received from US CIA operative Joseph Mifsud !!!

    … creating a “Russian government could assist the [Trump] campaign” fable out of whole cloth, out of the ether.

    Time to call Mueller and Weissman on the carpet to explain that deliberate misrepresentation in their vaunted “report”.

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  43. Tom Savage says:

    Follow up on my previous post. Maybe the Obama database could be more accurately described as the DNC database of the DNC Cybercrime operation. Obama was critical to the setup of this operation because he was In control of the FBI, DOJ, CIA, DNI, and NSA (indirectly). If surveillance began in 2012 and ended in 2016, four years of information on persons of interest would produce a goldmine of useful material.
    More importantly, several other cases of interest would begin to make more sense. 1, Seth Rich. What if the Podesta emails were not the only files copied from the DNC server? If he also took files pertaining to the Cybercrime operation, that would be critical. 2. Washerman-Schulz. The Awan brothers must have inadvertently collected communications related to the Cybercrime Operation between Democrats in Congress and party officials, and information on persons in the database. 3. Wiener laptop. This was used by Huma Abedin as a backup for communications between Hillary Clinton and many others. It would not be a stretch to think that traffic to/from the Cybercrime Operation is on the laptop. 4. Hillary Clinton’s private server. We can imagine what communications between HRC and other Democrats, and foreign and domestic contacts, and the Cybercrime Operation reside there.
    In all these cases, the related hardware has never been accounted for, but now is the time.


  44. zombietimeshare says:

    And to think, if Her Thighness Queen Hillary had been elected all this would have been buried forever.

    “Remember, the CIA is not supposed to be conducting surveillance, aka “spying”, inside the U.S. on American citizens.”

    This was more than surveillance, in addition to spying was the introduction of agent provocateurs in the persons of Stefan Halper and Azra Turk. If no illegality was found it was their job to create the illusion of one.


  45. Rocket says:

    I think firing squads are more appropriate than lethal injection.

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  46. Pokey says:

    Don’t forget Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice. They represent the number 2 and 3 card carrying Communists in the Obama Regime, respectively. Number 1 is Eric Holder and number 4 is the idiot, John Brennan. These clowns will pop up in odd places for the next 20 years, along with Larry the Cable guy’s adopted African child, Boobily Boobily! 🙂 Oops. Almost forgot about Moochelle, the school cafeteria monitor.

    The joke has been on us, folks. Don’t laugh now.


  47. Abe Pecota says:

    It seems there may be an even easier way to prove illegal spying without looking at redacted documents if this operation into Trump collusion began in or before March 2016. In March of 2016, it was unclear whether Trump would win the nomination. Cruz and Trump were running fairly close in delegate counts at that point. If Cruz’s campaign had also been targeted by operatives then there would be no doubt possible of the utilization by the BHO admin to weaponize the IC against possible GOP opponents. I noticed Cruz asked Barr a couple of days ago something close to “do we know if the Obama administration investigated any other candidates running for President” or something to that effect. I think THIS might be more revealing as to any motives related to Trump because as to Trump, there’s been a lot of work to create plausible reasons to investigate. What reasons would there be to investigate Cruz? Would LOVE for Nunez to get this question asked/answered.


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