“Unofficial Channels” – Reconciling Mueller’s Strategically Worded Origin of Operation Crossfire Hurricane…

Early May 2016

After the third reading of the strategically worded Weissmann/Mueller report, we are able to reconcile some issues. This outline reconciles the oddly worded Weissmann/Mueller claim to the origin of the FBI counterintelligence operation known as “crossfire hurricane” on July 31st, 2016.

It must be first noted that Devin Nunes has outlined the two-page “Electronic Communication” or “EC” from CIA Director John Brennan to FBI Director James Comey was not from official intelligence channels. Meaning the intelligence used to originate Crossfire Hurricane did not come through officials Five-Eyes intelligence communication.

When we reviewed the documents recently released by the Australian government, there was a disparity between the dates of George Papadopoulos meeting Australia’s High Commissioner Alexander Downer. The Weissmann report seemed to put the meeting as May 6th, 2016, but Papadopoulos and Downer (Australian docs) put the London meeting on May 10th.

Here’s the excerpt from Special Counsel Weissmann/Mueller report that describes the events.  Note Weissmann assigns a meeting date of May 6th, 2016:

[Page #89, Muller Report]

The paragraphs and the footnote direct the reader to assume a meeting between Papadopoulos and Downer on May 6th, and later the communication from Downer on July 26th, as the impetus for Crossfire Hurricane.  However, there’s some strategic conflation in the presentation because Downer and Papadopoulos didn’t meet until May 10th.

Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller carefully word the paragraphs because they don’t want the background of the May 6th, 2016, event attached to western intelligence.

Sneaky.

When Weissmann/Mueller write: “On May 6th, 2016, 10 days after that meeting with Mifsud, Papadopoulos suggested to a representative of a foreign government“… they are not writing about Alexander Downer.

They are writing about an aide to Downer, Erika Thompson.

As noted in Papadopoulos’ book:

After meeting with Downer’s aide, Erika Thompson on May 6th, she sets up a meeting between George Papadopoulos and her boss for May 10th.  The meeting is put on the official schedule for the Australian Ambassador to the U.K:

[Note in the meeting schedule the dates/times are listed in both Australian and U.K. time zones.]  On May 10th, 2016, Ms Erika Thompson and Mr. Alexander Downer then meet with George Papadopoulos.

After the meeting, Ambassador Downer reports back to the Australian government on his conversation with Papadopoulos. [As noted in the recent document release]:

The details of the conversation, and how Alexander Downer viewed the information from Papadopoulos is heavily redacted.  Essentially, he writes out what the Trump foreign policy seems to be from the perspective of George Papadopoulos.  This would be typical for any government to assemble the views and perspectives of a potential presidential nominee.

Additionally, Downer was a major supporter of Bill and Hillary Clinton; but in general terms, any personal bias is irrelevant for the purposes of outlining information from the Trump campaign that might be useful later on in understanding how the relationship between Australia and the U.S. might evolve.

As noted in the Weissmann/Mueller report, it is from this May 10th, 2016, meeting where  later communication from Ambassador Downer, July 26th, 2016, is referenced as the origin of Crossfire Hurricane.  However, here’s where it gets interesting.  Notice how Mueller presents the May 6th conversation as confirmation of the information from Joseph Mifsud, and not May 10th.

Weissmann and Mueller are saying the information: “that the Trump campaign had received information from the Russian government that it could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton”, came from Erika Thompson on May 6th, 2016.

Weissmann/Mueller are NOT saying that information came from Alexander Downer, despite the connection to the footnote that now appears to be intentionally conflating the origin of their claim.  They are “technically” saying the information came from Erika Thompson.

This makes sense, because Downer has denied that Papadopoulos ever brought up anything about Clinton “dirt”, or Clinton emails with him in the May 10th meeting.

Now the origin of this set-up takes on a new understanding.

Remember, a large portion of the CIA’s foreign agents work overseas as members of various U.S. embassies.  The U.S. State Department is the cover for a lot of CIA work; reference the “Benghazi Consulate” etc.

Rather than keep writing “U.S. intelligence officers”, and/or “U.S. intelligence assets”, let us just use the word “spies” to make things more honest and easier to understand.

Also consider “unofficial channels” as useful to a set-up; and “official channels” as part of a needed legitimacy for this operation.

George Papadopoulos was contacted by two members of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA),Terrence Dudley and Greg Baker, working out of the U.S. embassy in London.  Two American spies working in London put Papadopoulos in contact with their ally/counterpart in the Australian Embassy, Erika Thompson. [ie. ‘unofficial channels’]

Erika Thompson takes it from there… and sets up the meeting with Alexander Downer which will later be used to take an ‘unofficial channel’ and turn it into an ‘official channel’.

Now, which one did the CIA/FBI use: “unofficial” or “official”?   For the answer look at what Weissmann and Mueller say in their report.

The May 6th, 2016, Erika Thompson’s unofficial channel is cited for the quotation as to what Papadopoulos was claimed to have said…. as Papadopoulos is referencing information from Maltese Professor Joseph Mifsud, another unofficial channel.

See how that set-up was played?

And then there’s this:

The FBI Director of Counterintelligence, Bill Priestap, just happened to be in London on the exact same dates the ‘unofficial’ operation was happening… Now things really come into focus.

Remember, this is all happening in May, long before the official launch of the “official” FBI counterintelligence operation known as Crossfire Hurricane, July 31st, 2016.

What happens two days after Crossfire Hurricane is launched? …back to London: On August 2, 2016, Special Agent Peter Strzok and another agent at the Federal Bureau of Investigation met with Alexander Downer in London to discuss his conversation with Papadopoulos further. Strzok then received reading materials, which he texted about to Lisa Page.

Now does this make sense (April 2018):

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384 Responses to “Unofficial Channels” – Reconciling Mueller’s Strategically Worded Origin of Operation Crossfire Hurricane…

  1. WSB says:

    Christian Cantor
    Foreign Affairs & Security
    Thursday, July 14, 2016

    “The Bow Group wishes to thank all who attended our joint event with the Israeli Embassy in London on ‘The Future of British-Israeli Relations’, providing a forum to discuss how Brexit and threats in the Middle East affect bi-lateral relations between our two countries.

    We were honoured to have Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey and the Israeli Political Counsellor, Mr. Christian Cantor, as our panelists to guide the discussion.”

    http://www.bowgroup.org/policy/future-british-israeli-relations-speeches-lord-trimble-and-christian-cantor

    Liked by 7 people

    • jeff montanye says:

      i just like the name christian cantor, the job description israeli political officer, and the pressing need to introduce his australian secret agent girlfriend to g. papad.

      seems george was in waters quite a bit over his head.

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  2. Greg says:

    I hope Trump’s legal team and Barr’s group read this blog. The DS are putting maximum pressure on Barr to lay off. I wonder if Wray has not already opened an investigation on him! I hope Barr has enough white hats to help him. Romney’s odd and unnecessary statements indicate that the DS/RINO’s have assigned him a leading role if impeachment proceedings reach the Senate. The coup continues.

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    • ILOT says:

      Can’t forget that Romneys 2012 running mate Ryan was a member of the Gang of 8….how implicated Ryan is in all this, if at all, seems to be an obvious and burning question. maybe mittens knows the answer.

      Liked by 9 people

    • Now What says:

      Good point re: Romney becoming the face of impeachment in the Senate. It is either this….or he is moonwalking to the best of his ability in order to try to deflect his role in contributing to the origination of the dossier. Romney, Ryan, McCain, Bill Kristol were all in on the origination at the outset.

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      I agree – whatever they have on Mitch MUST be HUGE!

      Liked by 2 people

    • The Phantom Stranger says:

      Yep, the minute I heard Romney’s reaction, I thought to myself he’s going to be the face of the Republican betrayal against Trump. He’s likely the “replacement” Republican candidate the Deep State wants in 2020 when they take Trump out.

      Remember, Romney is practically a teammate of the Deep Staters that tried to take Trump out in a coup. If he’s sticking his neck out this early, our RINO Senate friends are ready to jump ship at the earliest political convenience. This has already been gamed out as one of the options by McConnell and others.

      Mitt did not make this response by himself. It was only in consideration with the other Deep State Republicans that run the Senate and their explicit approval.

      Gentlemen, think long and hard about your coming actions. Because once the Constitution becomes meaningless, all options are on the table.

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  3. MaineCoon says:

    And all this time while all these USA-IC-UK-AUS-ITALY…evil co-conspirators are plotting their evil, treasonous, illegal deeds, candidate Trump is flying around in Trump Force1 doing mega, mega rallies and beats the sh*t out of a lazy, drunk, criminal hag and lands in the Oval Office in spite of Obama’s rogue intelligence community. It started at the top. The entire IC community would not have gone rogue had they not had the blessing (actually, the curse) of Obama.

    Jokes on them, but it’s too ugly to laugh off.

    It isn’t vengeful to follow the rule of law. Treason. Sedition. Death. Life imprisonment.

    Justice under our USA laws so this never happens again.

    Landslide 2020 re-election of our President. Simultaneously, death of the Dems (& Rinos).

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  4. Richie says:

    Thanks again for this thorough analysis. I have a good feeling someone close to MAGA/Trump has been watching and reading your investigative works over the years. That maybe one of the reasons why, at the end of the day and against all odds, we are always #Winning

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  5. Darren says:

    As a Canadian I find it interesting that, as a 5i country, our name never comes up. I’ve been wondering if we hadn’t been working to help Trump. Remember Trudeau had just been elected so our IC was mainly Harper people. Obama disliked Harper. Maybe our IC repaid the favor… I have a friend in the IC who told me to buy lots of popcorn…

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  6. Heika says:

    Just a little tidbit to add to this, (and I have mentioned it before) but will add in again – as it was an odd period in Australian politics when this happened (an anomaly had occurred). The sitting Prime Minister of Aust at that time was Malcolm Turnball, (who was a known “lefty” wearing conservative clothes). E.g. he was ‘pro’, left wing (pro Hillary) – his beliefs and ideals were all ‘more in line with Democrat ideals’. He was a con man – leading the Conservative Party in Aust and he got there through what was effectively a coup within the party, where the elected PM Abbott was thrown out through backroom deals prior due to Turnball saying that ‘polls’ showed he should be the boss, not the elected PM. So at the time of Papa’s problems, and Downer’s games, there was a Conservative govt heading Aust, with a left wing fraudster con man at the helm who was feeding this crap back into the Obama admin. This is a fact! Turnball hated Trump. The PM of Aust hated Trump despite the fact that conservatives of Aust mostly loved Trump. The people of Aust did not vote him in. He was chucked out of office in the next election when the people got to choose. I know this is peripheral but it shows how deceptive things can be from these snakes in high places.

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    • Greg says:

      Turnbull is a leftist narcissist conman who became leader of a centre right party! He is a Goldman Sachs alumni, a globalist and climate change zealot. He became PM in a leadership spill (coup) in September 2015. He was deposed in another leadership spill in August 2018. On the day Trump was elected he gave an address to the nation in weirdly sombre tones as though there had been a death in the family. He made the refugee deal with Obama shortly after Trump was elected knowing Trump would not be happy. The entire Western establishment viewed Trump with disdain so I am not surprised the Australian government were happy to play along. “Natasha” Thompson met Papa on 6 May 2016. I understand both Comey and Brennan visited Australia in March 2016.

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  7. Herbert Kroll says:

    Additionally, the “Russia Investigation” would function as an effective deterrent against a US/Russian detente…

    Liked by 2 people

  8. graphiclucidity says:

    Timeline

    April 22 to 24, 2016
    Barack Obama traveled to the UK on his last official trip there as president.
    While there Obama met with the Queen and various Royals, and then UK Prime Minister David Cameron.

    Trip Reporting –
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-36108184

    Photos & Blurbs –
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36114671

    Daily Telegraph Op-Ed, urging the UK to stay in the EU –
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/21/as-your-friend-let-me-tell-you-that-the-eu-makes-britain-even-gr/

    April 25, 2016
    Barack Obama traveled to Germany for a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, President Francois Hollande of France, Prime Minister Matteo Renzi of Italy, and Prime Minister David Cameron of the United Kingdom at the Hannover Messe Trade Fair.

    While there Obama also delivered a speech.
    Transcript –
    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/04/25/remarks-president-obama-address-people-europe

    This speech was a full-throated defense of leftist Globalism and the European Union.
    In typical Obama fashion, he takes a swipe at his political opponents by setting them up with a straw-man, and then swatting them away with leftist platitudes and cliches.

    Excerpt –
    Across our countries, including in the United States, a lot of workers and families are still struggling to recover from the worst economic crisis in generations. And that trauma of millions who lost their jobs and their homes and their savings is still felt. And meanwhile, there are profound trends underway that have been going on for decades — globalization, automation that — in some cases, of depressed wages, and made workers in a weaker position to bargain for better working conditions. Wages have stagnated in many advanced countries while other costs have gone up. Inequality has increased. And for many people, it’s harder than ever just to hold on.

    This is happening in Europe; we see some of these trends in the United States and across the advanced economies. And these concerns and anxieties are real. They are legitimate. They cannot be ignored, and they deserve solutions from those in power.

    Unfortunately, in the vacuum, if we do not solve these problems, you start seeing those who would try to exploit these fears and frustrations and channel them in a destructive way. A creeping emergence of the kind of politics that the European project was founded to reject — an “us” versus “them” mentality that tries to blame our problems on the other, somebody who doesn’t look like us or doesn’t pray like us — whether it’s immigrants, or Muslims, or somebody who is deemed different than us.

    And you see increasing intolerance in our politics. And loud voices get the most attention. This reminds me of the poem by the great Irish poet W.B. Yeats, where the best lack all conviction, and the worst are full of passionate intensity.

    April 26, 2016
    Joseph Mifsud tells George Papadopoulos about the “thousands of emails” relating to Hillary Clinton, for the first time.

    May 6, 2016
    Ten days after the Misfud “tip”, Papadopoulos meets with DIA officials Dudley and Baker from the US Embassy to the UK, and also Erika Thompson of the Australian High Commission.

    I suggest somebody look into, and interview, Matthew Barzun, US Ambassador to the UK, 2013 – 2017.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Barzun

    I’d love to know what he and Barack Obama discussed during the former president’s 2016 UK visit.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      David Cameron? You don’t say…

      https://themarketswork.com/2018/08/14/george-papadopoulos-alexander-downer-the-opening-of-the-fbi-investigation/

      “The Papadopoulos/Downer meeting has been portrayed as a chance encounter in a bar. That does not appear to be the case. Papadopoulos was introduced to Downer through a chain of two intermediaries. Papadopoulos knew an Israeli embassy official in London named Christian Cantor who introduced Papadopoulos to Erika Thompson. Thompson was a counselor to Downer and served in Australia’s London embassy.

      On May 4, 2016, Papadopoulos gave an interview to the London Times in which he stated then-UK Prime Minister David Cameron should apologize to Trump for negative comments. The interview was not well-received. According to the Daily Caller, Thompson reached out to Papadopoulos two days after the story appeared and said Downer wanted to meet with Papadopoulos. The meeting between Papadopoulos and Downer took place on May 10, 2016. Downer reportedly told Papadopoulos to “leave David Cameron alone.””

      Well, well, well… Cameron is Butt-Hurt at PapaD. His interview was “not well-received”.

      Let’s add “May 4th, 2016” to the list, shall we?

      So Cameron and his GCHQ Rats tell Downer: I want this kid’s head on a pike. Plus, Trump is too dangerous. We need to do something.

      In comes Erika “Australian Wannabe Honeypot” Thompson. All trolloped up and Wannabe Honeypotish. Gets Downer and PapaD together for cocktails. Next thing we know, Downer tells PapaD: “Leave David Cameron alone”.

      Ok, NOW we’re gonna need more popcorn…

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      • graphiclucidity says:

        Great addition.

        Now we have David Cameron with personal motive against G. Papadop!
        The poor guy painted a huge target on his own back.

        I must admit I was suspicious of George during the roughest days of 2017 and 18, but I’ve changed my opinion of him entirely. Thank God he and his wife had the foresight to not bring that $10,000 from Israel into the United States the night he was arrested.

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  9. Darren says:

    Still have high confidence Mifsud is MI6 but this shows he’s currently being protected by the Americans. MI6 would never have left him in place!

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/deep-state-spy-located-fake-russian-joseph-mifsud-who-set-up-trump-campaign-volunteer-papadopoulos-located-in-rome/

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  10. nimrodman says:

    Hmmmmm … “passive collusion” … is that anything like “white Hispanic”?
    … just asking

    Clapper: If Active Collusion Wasn’t Proven, I Think We Have ‘A Case of Passive Collusion’
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/04/18/clapper-if-active-collusion-wasnt-proven-i-think-we-have-a-case-of-passive-collusion/

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    • spoogels says:

      Retired intel operative reveals that James Clapper ‘is a more severe idiot’ than he remembers

      And many others in the intel community agree with him

      https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/04/20/retired-intel-operative-reveals-that-james-clapper-is-a-more-severe-idiot-than-he-remembers/

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Old Man Clapper. I kinda feel sorry for him, actually. He’s such buffoon. I mean, you just know he was along for the ride. Brennan probably yelled at him quite a bit in their Secret Club House in that big oak tree in the National Arboretum.

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      I was driving home tonight listening to a recap of Clapper and almost hit the car ahead of me because I could not believe this “New” legislative/prosecutorial lingo the left will be using and that will undoubtedly be the new go-to phrase of the MSM, “Passive Collusion”. These people are truly demented, ill and in serious need of psychological care. Who would do this to a duly elected President? But then again, I am the same person that couldn’t believe a normal/sane person could hack up an individual (MS-13), burn the body and then go get a hamburger and a shake. And I am the same person that now KNOWS evil does indeed exist in our world and they all don’t carry guns, machetes or wear black hats – some are masked as deep state operators (Democrats, FBI, CIA, Rhinos, Anti-Trumpers,…) that are as slimy and horrible as those who outright murder. The difference is the latter is “Murdering” the American way of life and our society as a whole. AG Barr please SAVE US — Enough is enough! Thank you Sundance for never, ever, giving up and so eloquently connecting the dots to this Shakespearian reality show.

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  11. “Rather than keep writing “U.S. intelligence officers”, and/or “U.S. intelligence assets”, let us just use the word “spies” to make things more honest and easier to understand.”

    A rose by any other name. Brennan, McCabe, Rosenstein and Comey led the way to this traitorous coup. Assets my a$$. Spies.

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  12. spoogels says:

    This is Erika Thompson
    A real honey trap

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Hmm, pretty. Looks like she could be a Nic person. I like Simona more, though. Definitely.

      Maybe “Wannabe Honeytrap” refers to her inexperience. Like one minute she’s making copies in Downer’s office, then next thing she knows she’s smack dab in the middle of one of the biggest Geopolitical Scandals in modern history. I could see that.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I take “wannabe honeytrap” to mean that she was purposed to come on to him, and she tried, but he wasn’t interested.

        Didn’t Stefan Halper try to do the same thing to him?

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      • mtk says:

        What kind of honey trap is presented as, “Want to meet my girlfriend.”

        There is no ‘close’ on that move.
        Hitting on another man’s just introduced girlfriend right in front of him or her making an open flirtatious move to reel him in.

        Yup… Sure fire way fall flat on your face.

        I get sex appeal works in funny ways.
        But…to charaterize Erika as a ‘honey trap’ in the connotation that is implied is really demeaning to the soft pedel role she played.

        And, it is most definately not the Mueller mixup/smooth move with mixing up or attributing the dates that the ‘spy’ couple met socially with Papa on the 6th, and later on the 10th with Downer. The attribution and import Sundance is making is more significant than it appears.

        And without knowing the answer to a central question… I can not work out the angle Sundance’s believes Mueller is trying to skip over.

        The question is, “Was Erika on the clock?”

        If she was, then she would have filed reports, there would have been an authorization trail and etc leading back to an actually IntellOp.

        If not then, it was off the clock tradecraft at best, or freelancing at the worst.
        Either way, the likely tempo of the 6th social call was, “A Ms Erika all hardOn for HRC vs Papa trading rhetoric about the election campaign, through how the MSM was covering it, to hypertheticals like HRC email server and americans views on it. I bet you some really good zingers where throw out that would have been more bombastic than, “Ooh and.. The Russian may have HRC emails.”

        See what I am getting at is not that there was some grand setup scheme, it is that there is nothing there.

        Third party indundo related to Downer by his aid as meeting prep for the May10th official meeting. And it is a nearly eight week later Downer reached out to the FBI(and not State) to report
        hmm… Maybe someone should look into this seeing how wikileaks just dumped the DNC emails and Podesta stuff.

        Is that what the FBI got the FISA on.
        No wonder it is a load of crock.

        By May with the way the HRC email server had become a campaign issue, even I half expected to open up my PriceClearingHouse shopper only to find several dozen of her emails.
        It was rampant speculation, every political hack in the world was speculating on who had them. And, that is the government’s basis for a FISA warrant.

        I Think that is Sundance’s whole take on the date switch’a’roo. That is, “The appearance of this cable harvesting being all natural and organic.”
        When it was anything but natural and organic. And, yet the substance of what the FBI had was zillich after all this effort.

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      • WSB says:

        Mrs. Israel….I mean Smith.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      She’s a dog compared to George’s wife.

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    • WSB says:

      I had been looking for that. Erika is difficult to find.

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  13. wxobserver says:

    Consider this from Papa-D’s house testimony released by Doug Collins. Starting on page 75 he discuss that the only person he can remember repeating the Mifsud rumor to is the Greek foreign minister. That would be a representative of a foreigh gov’t would it not? There’s also something else suspicious around the Greek FM. On pages 77-78 of same testimony, there’s this Bert Mizusawa who really wants to get Papa-D into a high level meeting with the Greek FM, Flynn and Sessions. I’m wondering if that wasn’t part of a plot to get Papa-D to mention the Mifsud rumor to top-level campaign folks. Wouldn’t that get everyone in trouble!

    Anyway, I’ve bounced this idea out a couple of places and nobody seems interested; thought I’d try again. Maybe it’s nothing, I dunno.

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    • WSB says:

      Nice catch. It seems these all might have been phishing trips to attract the patsy/target to bite. Flypaper.

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    • stephen fenlon says:

      I’m not sure about that.
      i see this meeting as Greece as more Geopolitical to do with the proposed pipeline from the Oilfield of the Israeli coast, which Palestinians have also laid claim to.

      it was planned to be built to Cyprus and then onto Europe. Hmm .. Which part of Cyprus ? The area controlled by Greece? Or Turkey ?

      Wouldn’t a massive benefit be Jobs;economy boost and maybe transit fees ? I presume from Cyprus it would either make landfall in Turkey ( shortest route to land) or across the med to Greece.

      Absolutely no love lost between those two countries.

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      • wxobserver says:

        You could be right. Papa-D was very suspicious at that time cuz our intelligence folks had him spooked. I was just keying on Papa-D’s testimony that he thought something fishy was going on and he didn’t see any good reason he should be in that meeting. I did some superficial research on Mizusawa and he seems like an okay guy. But, what do I know, this can all get very confusing!

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  14. spoogels says:

    And the Australian Govt National radio /TV has this on the whole affair

    No doubt many lies because the ABC is a Lefty Scum mouthpiece.

    Many Australians HATE the ABC

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-22/george-papadopoulos-alexander-downer-meeting-what-happened/10286868

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    • Greg says:

      The ABC is a mirror of the BBC. Its news and current affairs sections are overwhelming staffed by leftists (Democrat types and Greens). The ABC receives $1 billion AUD in annual government funding. It is supposed to be even handed but the Oz public is constantly bombarded with the usual green-left globalist crap.

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  15. spoogels says:

    Erika Thompson, a career diplomat working as a political counsellor at the commission, had a boyfriend called Christian Cantor, the head of the political branch in the Israeli embassy.
    Two men wearing suits and ties pose for a photo together.

    Papadopoulos also knew Cantor, describing him as someone “who just hated Trump, he hated his guts”.

    Australian sources describe Cantor, who is now engaged to Thompson, as a “liberal internationalist” who’d be no Trump fan.

    “All of a sudden, [Cantor] decides one day to introduce me to his so-called girlfriend, who just happened to be an Australian intelligence officer and the assistant to Alexander Downer,” Papadopoulos said.

    Australian sources emphatically deny Thompson is an ASIS agent, but a “mainstream DFAT officer

    Photo: Israeli political counsellor Christian Cantor (left) is now engaged to Australian Erika Thompson.

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  16. Blind no longer says:

    Wow, WOW, WOW!!!! Thank you Sundance and thank YOU Pappa D!!
    So much I had forgotten, but that video of Nunes, brought everything back to refresh my aging brain! I must have been in living in a cave…because I had zero idea that the DOJ refused to prosecute McCabe!!! WTF?

    This had to have been a CIA operation from the git go. Spies, foreign countries assets setting up meetings…all attached to U.S. embassies…so convoluted and complicated-just like they wanted it to be! This is a spy novel wannabe operation…can you say John Brennan? I hope they nail his azz to a prison wall!!

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  17. Anonymous says:

    Nice analysis, Sundance. I agree that this all makes sense.

    Would need to understand a little more the procedures, etc. for 5eyes communication to understand the Nunes point about not a formal report.

    In addition the push to have the Thompson meeting is troubling. I don’t see how they can pass that off as Papa just pushing the info at them when they set the meeting up, she is a spy, and they collected info. That’s deliberate spying in my book.

    It’s funny to me that Papa didn’t put the whole different days together properly. He is such a coffee boy. He’s had a year to write out a clear timeline of what exactly went down. And you still see him on twitter with remarks of “yeah, that happened too”. The guy is really not bright. Easy pickings.

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  18. Anonymous says:

    Couple other dots to connect:

    1. Gowdy remarks about “not that much surprising in the unredacted FISAs…maybe just something about Papa”. I think Gowdy was referring to the Papa surveillance related to Israel oil/gas. I think that is the surprise.

    2. See the connection now with the Aussies not wanting the FISA released by Trump (some governements protested, Trump said). Also, their recent admission of some cables seems to be getting out in front of the eventual revelations of their role. Although we have heard a lot about Papa not being in the FISAs, I suspect that he was (withing redacted parts). Otherwise the Gowdy remarks wouldn’t even make sense. And Gowdy had read the real documents. [This is irrespective of if you hate Gowdy…I still think you can glean nuggets from what he says.]

    2.

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  19. mtk says:

    What the heck does MYE stand for???

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    • Skippy says:

      Mid Year Exam

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    • fred5678 says:

      Mid Year Exam — the official FBI “investigation” of Hillary’s email server, which ended with Comey proclaiming no intention (sic). to be grossly negligent with top secret information.

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    • Blind no longer says:

      Mid year exam -code name for FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private server and mishandling of classified documents.

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    • CanaCon says:

      It stands for Midyear Exam – the code name for the “investigation” into Hitlery’s email server and related crimes.

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    • Valuetruth says:

      “Mid Year Exam” refers to the term given by the FBI of the investigation into the presence of classified information on the unsecured Clinton server. Or in other terms…the whitewashing of the Clinton email investigation.

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    • mtk says:

      Ah… Got it, now it all falls into place…

      If the FBI MYE crew has found or determined there is no there,there(gross negligence) with her closet email server.

      Then how is it possible that the same lead bad apple(Strozk) will be so high and darn mighty in following the Papa raddit hole down to high crimes.

      I get that if there was compartmentalization, two different teams in the fbi -one team task with putting the lipstick on the proverbial pig that is HRC email server. And, another looking at Papa. There could be some isolation of the two side by side observations.

      On one hand HRC not guilty and in the other, there is collusion because Papa said something about the Russians having them.

      It is incredulous knowning it the same guy(Storzk)

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  20. fred5678 says:

    The boilerplate of this movie script is already done.

    I’ve got my YUGE bucket of popcorn ordered … with extra butter!

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  21. The Gipper Lives says:

    Also in Spring of 2016, via American Thinker:

    Dean Boyd, director of the CIA’s Office of Public Affairs: “Director Brennan traveled to Russia in early March [2016] to emphasize with Russian officials the importance of Russia and the Assad regime following through on their agreements to implement the cessation of hostilities in Syria.”

    Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Oleg Syromolotov: “It’s no secret that Brennan was here, But he didn’t visit the Foreign Ministry. I know for sure that he met with the Federal Security Service, and someone else.”

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  22. Mac says:

    Just a few things to remember.
    When this Collusion nonsense first broke, several knowledgeable people, including DJT I believe, speculated that information had been obtained, by the Obama Administration, from the NSA via British Intelligence, which had access to NSA intercepts through Five Eyes. This allegedly occurred after Adm Rogers took over at NSA and shut down unauthorized access to the agency’s intercepts. Now, we have the fingerprints of Israeli intelligence, Australian intelligence, the DIA, the FBI, the CIA and possibly British Intelligence involved. The thing to remember about the allied intelligence community is that it is a small group and everyone knows everyone else, to a certain extent. And, they all do each other favors, as long as it does not conflict with the wishes of their governments. And, more often, when it advances the aims of their governments. Halper, as a member of a family which has long standing affiliation with the CIA, and Western Intelligence in general, was the CIA’s man n the scene. Mifsud is most likely a British agent or asset, as Britain has long had a great deal of interest in that area, though he could be a CIA asset. Erika Thompson is more than likely a member of the Australian Intelligence community assigned to Alexander Downer, to take advantage of his diplomatic immunity as well as serve as a liaison between the High Commissioner’s office and the Australian intel community. She gets introduced to Pap by a person who is probably a member of Israeli intelligence assigned to the Israeli Embassy in London. Now, it is unlikely that any intelligence officer is going to have a “boyfriend-girlfriend” relationship with a member of another intelligence service. It is frowned upon by the “industry”. So, this is more likely a “professional” relationship. Why would an Israeli intelligence officer want to introduce an Australian Intelligence officer to Pap, as his “girlfriend”? More than likely it was a “favor” for another intelligence agency. Then we have Australian intelligence and Downer reporting on Pap to the FBI, in its role as US counter-intelligence. Finally, we have DJT saying that several of our foreign allies requested that certain information not be released, when Nunes was requesting that certain documents be unredacted.

    This operation encompassed, not only the DOJ/FBI. but the intelligence apparatus of at least three and probably four of our foreign allies. We are far beyond the looking glass now. And, we are going to have to go even farther, if we want the truth. Stick with Sundance and he will get you there.

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    • WSB says:

      Noted, Mac. And then there are Dudley and Baker…two Americans.

      This Daily Caller report from September 2018 sure does paint these two in a different light than SD does up top.

      Also note some Greek involvement.

      https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/25/mueller-embassy-papadopoulos/

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      • Lee Moore says:

        From the Daily Caller article :

        Both Dudley and Baker dispute Papadopoulos’ tweet, saying they reached out to Papadopoulos out of personal curiosity. “We approached him from a more fascinated standpoint trying to figure out what his game was,” Dudley told TheDCNF by phone from London.

        If I try really hard I can imagine The Donald as a top class deep cover Russian mole. But the idea that two US defense officials decided to approach George out of “personal curiosity” and “a facinated standpoint” is just a bridge too far even for my vivid imaginative powers.

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  23. curator55 says:

    Another heavily packed informative article.

    As I wrote in my verbose post in the Presidential Open Thread, the upcoming response to Weissmann’s report must be “The Mother of All Rebuttals” and I wish sundance (and Kim Strassel etc) was involved in some way in the crafting of the important Rebuttal to the Weissmann/ Mueller fiction along with a Round table of contributing lawyers like Sidney Powell, Joe DeGenova, Victoria Toensing, Dershowitz, Greg Jarrett and others besides the skilled Jay and Rudy. This rebuttal is a great opportunity to expose much of the deceitful coup and their shady methods.

    (Note–A great white shark might be more merciful than Weissmann as the shark tears an innocent or guilty (doesn’t matter which) person and their life to pieces rather quickly instead of enjoying prolonging the process.

    sundance’s clever idea to rename the Mueller report the Weissmann/Mueller and even the Weissmann report is accurate and humorous. Mueller was most likely just a cover or titular leader of the Dem team and Weissmann made all the important decisions.

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  24. Redzone says:

    They have announced that Trump is declassifying the docs along with the release of the IG report in about a month!

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  25. Sue Fowler says:

    This can be parsed into infinity, but why? Boils down to political witch hunt.

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  26. spoogels says:

    FBI Investigated Michael Flynn Over Russia Ties Earlier Than Previously Known

    https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/20/fbi-investigated-flynn-earlier-russia/

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    • WSB says:

      This author, Scott Jennings is a fraud.

      He rationalizes that the Obama Administration failed seeing the Russian election threat because they were too focused on the Iran deal.

      The Obama Regime wasn’t failing…they were COMPLICIT.

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  27. spoogels says:

    Clintonista Mark Penn: Mueller Probe Exposed — and the ‘Deep State’ Is Flailing

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/05/21/mark-penn-mueller-probe-deep-state-flailing/

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  28. spoogels says:

    Eric Holder tries to steamroll Trump over ‘foreign attacks’ preparation and accidentally FLATTENS the Obama admin

    https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/04/20/eric-holder-tries-to-steamroll-trump-over-foreign-attacks-preparation-and-accidentally-flattens-the-obama-admin/

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  29. spoogels says:

    Justice Department Seeks 18-Month Prison Sentence For Maria Butina

    https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/20/maria-butina-sentence-prison/

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  30. Burnt Toast says:

    >>>George Papadopoulos was contacted by two members of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA),Terrence Dudley and Greg Baker, working out of the U.S. embassy in London.

    That may explain Evelyn FarkAs’s (Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine, Eurasia) very excited utterances about getting the goods to their friends on The Hill before Trump finds out what they did.

    Dudley and Baker are foot soldiers. Who higher up at DoD put them up to this? Farkas?

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  31. Republicanvet91 says:

    “Remember, this is all happening in May, long before the official launch of the “official” FBI counterintelligence operation known as Crossfire Hurricane, July 31st, 2016.”

    Interesting. This raises a question. Downer meets Pop on May 10th, 2016, Comey opens Crossfire Hurricane end of July 2016.

    Why wait almost 2 months to open an investigation on such a serious national security issue? What else happened between May 10th and the end of July?

    Finally, why is Downer only officially communicating his views of Pop (and POTUS) back to Canberra on 11/5/2016? This is 6 months after he first met with Pop. Why wait that long? 3 days before the election was held? How could Comey open an investigation with Downer’s information if that information was not reported until over 2 MONTHS later?

    Was Downer communicating his views to others during that 6 months?

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  32. Sherri Young says:

    Here is John Solomon pouring out a river of information about Alexander Downer, etc. on March 7th of last year. His appearance is the first 34 minutes. Give the show a moment to come on.

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  33. Fools Gold says:

    Sounds like after the pigs were caught in their lie, a smart pig (someone in SC office) tried to convolute the truth so bad that only smart lawyers/people could figure out banking on the fact that dishonest smart ass media libs could continue to convolute it so bad that no dim light (majority public voters) in either party could ever figure out what the hell is going on much less understand or comprehend the facts. I have to admit I’m pretty dim but yet still have the patience to slow walk information into my head until my light goes off. Thanks for slow walking me Sundance, sincerely. Now, can we arrest these sorry SOB’s and slow walk them to the lynches they deserve? Or will majority never see the light? I fear the later but we have a magnificent POTUS who at least 45% of Americans appreciate and believe in so that’s my hope and prayer!

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    • Fools Gold says:

      Now I’m going to read all the comments from folks smarter than I and try to absorb some more clarity just to burn it in so to speak.

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  34. 21leelee says:

    Knowing there was no collusion, still the FBI decided to raid and frogmarch Michael Cohen, Trump’s lawyer. That is more outrageous to me now, after publication of the report, than it was beforehand. Who will respect the FBI anymore?

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  35. Dim Osmab says:

    Also MIFSUD DENIED to FBI that he said about russian dirt to PapaD. page 193

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      Of course he did, deny that, probably because he didnt. They may discussing current affairs, such as HRC emails. I doubt either speculated that some of her emails were in foreign hands. Although that was what the NYT was reporting, perhaps saying that was a fear, because her private server would be unsufficiently secured.

      What happens is that some people, all people were gossiping about HRCs emails and then when the UNRELATED Podesta emails appear, that silly twat Erica Thompson then reports to a friend at the US embassy (probably at some cocktail party) that she remembers some Trump campaign guy saying something around those lines, confusing the two.

      When we see the unredacted memo from Downer from 2016-05-11 you will see that he didnt report anything about any emails, just generic foreign policy chit-chat which merely gives Papdopoulos own opninions…

      All hoaxes and misdirection.

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  36. John-Y128 says:

    How is it that everything that Sundance, Fitton and everybody else turns up, nothing happens, now were again ‘waiting’ on an IG report, then it’ll be ‘waiting’ on sheriff John Huber, ‘waiting’ on and on and on, complete BS from the establishment, meanwhile the democrats roll on attacking the POTUS (for his whole 4 year term) right up until the next (Russian influenced) election in 2020.

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  37. Right to reply says:

    God bless you, Sundance. You deserve a medal for service to the Country and people.

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  38. BitterC says:

    Wait a minute…..the following from the Weissman Oppo Research Report is NOT in the Papa D indictment OR his book, “Deep State Target” (or I missed it?), but THIS is news to me (re: April 26 mtg w Mifsud when Papa D learns of “dirt”):

    “that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Trump Campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton”

    I thought Mifsud had just mentioned the Ruskies had dirt/emails. Never have heard it alleged that Mifsud said they were offering to help Trump by (anonymously) releasing??????

    Doubly puzzling since Papa D tweeted that Mueller “didn’t lie” about him?

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      That was in a different context, about something else. PapaD did not mean that this Mueller/Weismann report did not ever lie, nor that they did not ever lie about something related to him.

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  39. Lee Moore says:

    I have to say that my general impression of Pdop is that he’s highly flaky. All the same ….

    Mifsud said by 11 April 2016 email to Pdop that he was travelling to Moscow on 18 April to attend a Valdai meeting. From Moscow he apparently put Pdop in touch with Timofeev by email and Skype. Mifsud then returned to England on April 25 after a stop in Rome.

    Mueller references all these happenings to Pdop emails and the Pdop statement of offense.

    This strikes me as very odd. Why rely on flaky George ?

    There ought to be a ton of easily accessible confirmatory evidence for a lot of this. Mifsud’s passport should have Russian stamps on arrival and exit and the FBI got the chance to inspect it in 2017; it should be easy to confirm the dates of Valdai meetings; and attenders; and it should be easy to confirm Timofeev’s correct email and Skype addresses. Presumably Mueller’s team did all those things ? So why wouldn’t they say so in their footnotes ?

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  40. Joe B says:

    Wait, Israel were working with the Australian, Italian, and American IC against Trump on UK soil?

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      At least one of those Israelis (the 10k guy) is a CIA asset, and operated in Israel. The UK Israeli is just an ambassy staffer in UK and may simply have been an unwitting intermediary. The staff of the various embassies in major capitals all know each other from various official and less official functions and parties.

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  41. Lee Moore says:

    Some interesting stuff on page 193 of the Mueller report :

    In addition, Papadopoulos failed to inform investigators that Mifsud had introduced him to Timofeev, the Russian national who Papdopoulos understood to be connected to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, despite being asked if he had met with Russian nationals “or anyone with a Russian accent” during the campaign.

    The “despite” strongly implies, indeed just about requires, that Pdop “met” Timofeev. But my quick skim indicates that Pdop only corresponded with Timofeev remotely, by email and Skype. So is this another switcheroo, making us think that Pdop actually met Timofeev, whereas the only Russian he seems to have met was Polonskaya. – just like making us think that the 6 May foreign government official was Downer when actually it was Erika Thompson ? If so it looks pretty dishonest to me – as I say the “despite” really requires that Pdop actually met Timofeev.

    Moving on – also p193

    Mifsud also falsely stated [in Feb 2017] that he had not seen Papadopoulos since the meeting at which Mifsud introduced him to Polonskaya, even though emails, text messages, and other information show that Mifsud met with Papadopoulos on at least two other occasions – April 12 and April 26. In addition Mifsud omitted that he had drafted (or edited) the follow-up message that Polonskaya sent to Papdopoulos following the initial meeting and that, as reflected in the language of that email chain (“Baby thank you”), Mifsud may have been involved in a personal relationship with Polonskaya at that time. The false information and omissions in Papdopoulos’s January 2017 interview undermined investigators ability to challenge Mifsud when he made these inaccurate statements.

    1. That implies that Mueller’s team had access to either Mifsud’s or Polonskaya’s emails, which if Mifsud was masterminding a Russian infiltration of the Trump Campaign presumably would have given Bob access to a whole pile of other emails with other sinister folk, of whom…. …..we hear nothing. The alternative is that Polonskaya sent an email chain with all the drafts as well as the final version to Pdop. Making her a pretty dumb spy.
    2. Crossfire Hurricane was launched in July 2016, apparently in response to the Aussies telling the FBI about Pdop and his knowledge of stolen Dem dirt. We are told that if only Pdop had mentioned all his extra contacts with Mifsud, in his Jan 2017 interview – for which the evidence now presented is Pdop’s emails – the FBI would have been able to challenge Mifsud better in his Feb 2017 interview. From which we must deduce that in Jan 2017, 6 months after opening an enquiry specifically triggered by Pdop’s guilty stolen emails secret, the FBI haven’t got round to reading Pdop’s old emails with Mifsud, Polonskaya et al. In an investigation so vital and secret that they couldn’t tell the Gang of 8 ? Really ?

    OK I can credit them not wanting to move in and interview him for a while, so they can surveil the cojones off hiim and see where he leads them. But they’re not even reading his emails ! How does that work ?

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    • Hmmm... says:

      This timing issue became apparent when they released his indictment and guilty plea. If, as we suspected at the time, Downer was proven to be approaching Pap and not the other way around then the only way they could have known to approach him is if they were reading his emails and facebook messages.

      Of course they were. Likely through the illegal 702 searches with outside contractors. This meant they needed a way to continue to listen in and legitimize their earlier collection so they got a FISA based on his work in Israel. The date of that FISA might really be the thing that exposes they were collecting on him illegally via another method. It’s fairly certain that FISA application would have been as fraudulent as Page’s too.

      The Pap case has it all. Illegal 702 collection (likely with fairly conclusive proof), illegal FISA, illegal spying by 5 eyes partners, illegal spying by CIA/FBI informants (Halper at least), and the $10,000 set up by Mueller. The Pap case I think is the best avenue to expose the scale of the operation and ties it to Mueller too.

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      • Lee Moore says:

        That’s a slightly different timing issue, ie whether they were reading his pre July 2016 emails before July 2016. If so we’d then be interested in how that came about.

        My timing issue is that Mueller’s team has put in their report and represented to the court that as of February 2017 (when they interviewed Mifsud) the FBI was not aware of the contents of Pdop’s pre July 2016 emails with Mifsud evidencing the deeper contacts that the FBI woulda coulda shoulda grilled Mifsud about in February 2017. This timing issue requires no speculation about illegal or unauthorised surveillance of Pdop’s communications before the opening of Crossfire Hurricane. It simply requires an answer to how it came to be that for 6 months after opening Crossfire Hurricane based on Pdop’s own activities, they still hadn’t got round to looking at his pre July 2016 emails.

        Which implies that either (a) they had no warrant to do so post July 2016 until some time after February 2017, which seems astonishing. Or (b) they did have a warrant and didn’t get round to it. Which seems a little inconsistent with the idea that Pdop was front and center of a dastardly Russkie plot to steal the election. Or (c) they were lying to te court about Pdop having spoiled their chance to interview Mifsud properly.

        (c) seems inconceivable since it would be way too easy to get caught.

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  42. Kay Sadeeya says:

    It looks like it could all be cleared up with waterboarding Bill Priestap.

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  43. Kay Sadeeya says:

    It looks like Trump’s people were amateurish babes in the woods when if came to the globalist agents who thought they could take down Trump. It seems like Papadapolous and others were so zealous about looking like they could arrange meetings with powerful people like Putin and other seemingly innocent endeavors -which would be normal behavior for a candidate to look like he had relations with world-leaders, that they didn’t suspect the dirty tricks and sleaze the Democrat Party was capable of, especially with unlimited cover from the presstitute media. Like I said they were sheep for the slaughter.

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  44. OldParatrooper says:

    The Defense Intelligence Agency meeting with Papadop concerns me. First because its way out of their lane to be meeting US political campaign staff unless that staffer had requested the meeting. Second because the meeting isn’t explored by the article.

    I know a number of the DIA Counterintelligence Staff from working at DIA and CIFA, but don’t recognize those names. Doesn’t mean they aren’t DIA, there were plenty of folks there I didn’t know personally. But it might indicate they weren’t actually DIA but something more relevant, like CIA or FBI.

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  45. OldParatrooper says:

    OK, did a bit of online research and they both appear to be DIA. Met four times with Papadop. They say it was personal curiosity. I find that hard to believe. JWICS or SIPRNET message traffic should show if it was official.

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