Leaked Transcripts from Lisa Page Provide Some Stunning Revelations…

In the last 24 hours The Epoch Times has become a conduit for leaked information from inside the joint House congressional committee (Oversight/Judiciary) that was investigating DOJ and FBI corruption. [Two Stories: See Here and See Here]

The joint House committee previously requested approval from the DOJ and FBI for transcripts of all witness testimony to be released.  In response, Deputy FBI Director David Bowditch, citing possible interference with the Mueller investigation, refused to release the transcripts.  However, it appears someone from within the committee, likely Mark Meadows, following a pattern previously exclusive to John Solomon (The Hill), is now leaking those witness transcripts to The Epoch Times.

The leaked transcripts are not being made available; however, articles are being written from those who are reviewing them.  The first is an article by Jeff Carlson about the testimony by former FBI lawyer Lisa Page.  It is a lengthy article and I would urge all who are interested in her testimony to read it: SEE HERE.  There is a wealth of new information that fills in many of the gaps from prior research.

One of the immediately interesting aspects of the Page testimony goes directly to the issue of why the witness transcripts are not being released, and the inherent risk to the small group inside the DOJ and FBI who were coordinating the Clinton and Trump probes.

Lisa Page outlines the people who were at the center of the “small group team” within the FBI (emphasis mine):

[…]  Although Page admitted to a personal dislike for Trump, she also admitted to a less-than-favorable view of Hillary Clinton, noting that while she did not like then-candidate Trump, she “wasn’t particularly fond or favorable toward Secretary Clinton. Page summed her position up thusly: “I mean, given a Trump-Clinton race, yes, I was supporting Clinton, but I was not a particularly big fan of hers.”

The role of FBI agent Jonathan Moffa, currently a deputy assistant director at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, may have been greater than previously understood. Page noted that most of the FBI personnel involved in the Clinton and Trump-Russia investigations were separate from each other—they worked on one investigation or the other.

Strzok and Moffa, both from the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, worked on both investigations, as Page noted:

“Really it’s the people that met with Jim Comey. Those are the only people that were really the same with respect to both teams. So it’s the same general counsel, the same deputy general counsel, me, Mr. McCabe, Dave Bowdich. The EAD for National Security Branch changed, but that was just because of regular personnel turnover.  (read more)

Many of us were trying to figure out how David Bowditch rose to the level of Deputy FBI Director under Chris Wray.  [Bowditch was previously the FBI field office head for the San Bernardino terrorist attack investigation in California]  Now we see that Bowditch was at the center of the small group in Washington DC who were doing the Trump investigation.

This reconciles why the current FBI is blocking the release of the witness transcripts.  Do you remember who told congress a few weeks ago that any transcript releases may interfere with the Mueller investigation?…

(Source link)

Yes, that would be David Bowditch.   Obviously, Bowditch is following a very familiar pattern.  DOJ and FBI officials who are directly connected to the previous corruption have a vested self-interest in controlling the sunlight upon them.

Despite their claims, don’t be tricked into thinking it’s about timing, and/or a workload, and/or the holidays (per letter).  How do we know this?

Well, remember, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Chaired by Devin Nunes, made a similar request for release of their transcripts on September 26th, 2018.  The DOJ, FBI and Special Counsel have refused to comply for four months.  They intended to drag this out as a defense strategy to hide their own duplicity.   Hence, the likelihood Mark Meadows (or someone similar) is frustrated and has now started leaking transcripts to The Epoch Times.

Mueller’s investigation always held an ulterior purpose:

♦(1) Create an investigation – Just by creating the investigation it is then used as a shield by any corrupt FBI/DOJ official who would find himself/herself under downstream congressional investigation.  Former officials being deposed/questioned by IG Horowitz or Congress could then say they are unable to answer those questions due to the ongoing special counsel investigation.  In this way Mueller provides cover for ideologically aligned deep state officials.

♦(2)  Use the investigation to keep any and all inquiry focused away from the corrupt DOJ and FBI activity that took place in 2015, 2016, 2017.  Keep the media narrative looking somewhere, anywhere, other than directly at the epicenter of the issues. In this way, Mueller provides distraction and talking points against the Trump administration.

♦(3) Use the investigation to suck-up, absorb, any damaging investigative material that might surface as a result of tangentially related inquiry.  Example: control the exposure of evidence against classified leak participants like SSCI Director of Security, James Wolfe; and/or block IG Horowitz from seeing material related to the FISA abuse scandal and “spygate”.  In this way Mueller provides cover for the institutions and the administrative state.

In all of these objectives the Mueller special counsel has been stunningly effective.

There’s a hell of a lot more to be learned from the Lisa Page testimony, specifically about the role of the CIA in the overall operation…  However, for me personally, her outline of Bowditch in the main FBI DC office -as connected to the larger investigation- completes an annoyingly missing puzzle piece.

DAG Rod Rosenstein was hired by President Trump at the direction of, and request of, AG Jeff Sessions.   Rosenstein then recommended that President Trump hire FBI Director Chris Wray (a transparently useful idiot)….. Director Wray then hired David Bowditch as his deputy AND re-hired Dana Boente as FBI chief-legal-counsel.

The picture we get here is how the 2015/2016 officials within the corrupt DOJ and FBI enterprise, were put into higher office in the Trump administration 2017/2018; and those same officials are currently occupying positions that allow them to keep their prior corrupt activity hidden.

This whole thing is FUBAR.

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360 Responses to Leaked Transcripts from Lisa Page Provide Some Stunning Revelations…

  1. SR says:

    Waiting for more than Trump tweets so some kind of indictments on previous administration folks, FBI/DOJ folks. Clintons and Obama are above the law so they will never be indicted.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Mr. T. says:

      SR, one can only hope that when the new AG is sworn in, that one of their first official acts will be to appoint a special counsel to investigate all things Clinton, and not just her pay for play, email, and Uranium One involvement, but the Clinton Foundation as well. That also includes all of the other black hat players who were involved, including the ones who tried to take down POTUS. The clock is ticking for the statue of limitations.

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    • Clarence Smith says:

      Would this mean The Leaker does not trust FOX, The Daily Caller, or solomon, Carter, hannity, bongino breibart etc etc??? Epoch Times????WTH!

      Liked by 3 people

      • WSB says:

        I am wondering if the Leaker does not trust Barr?

        Liked by 17 people

        • Ziiggii says:

          Haven’t entertained that angle yet….🤔 wonderful thought. My initial thought was that it was a play against Cummings having Cohen come in, but this could be possible as well.

          👍

          Liked by 1 person

          • WSB says:

            I truly wondered why Graham had a presser on his meeting with Barr the other day. Under normal circumstances, senators would not be advertising their senate confirmation meetings, but Graham did.

            I do not trust Graham at all, however this may be a frustration by the Senate that Barr might recuse himself after being confirmed, and here we go again. Maybe some on the Hill are just getting tired of this?

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            • Ziiggii says:

              Doubtful that Graham has moved that far into an asset for POTUS, it is what good politicians do.

              Liked by 4 people

              • WSB says:

                Yes, but he was quick to come to the cameras with his play by play, so something is up.

                Also, Barr’s memo does no square with his Graham meeting, so why is all of this now just being revealed?

                I’m with SD. Just release everything already.

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                • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

                  I too do not trust Graham.

                  However, Graham coming out of that meeting singing:

                  “Billy and Bobby
                  sitting in a tree
                  K-I-S-S-I-N-G”

                  seems more a “heads up” to Trump.

                  If this was some kind of message to the Dems or DS it could have waited to be brought out AT the hearings when the train has already left the station.

                  (Or it could be that Lindsey is just jealous cause he has a crush on Mueller.)

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                • WSB says:

                  Wow, makes me want to call his office for comment!

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              • ladypenquin says:

                Graham is a better politician than an honorable man.

                Liked by 5 people

            • Jederman says:

              If the WH hires Barr WITHOUT Barr assuring them he won’t recuse and that he recognizes the BS in the Mueller SC then forget it, it’s over. It’ll be great drama and a ton a grist for the blogs but it will guarantee failure for our side and exoneration (as in skating) for the previous admin and it’s craven DS appointment/hires in DoJ and the IC.

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              • mark says:

                Agreed…if the Trump or his advisors haven’t gotten a solemn pledge from Barr that he won’t recuse….well I would be shocked at the stupidity of hiring him under those conditions. I would really like to know who Trump gets advice from on appointments?

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            • ladypenquin says:

              If Barr recuses himself, POTUS can fire him just as abruptly as he desires, and go back to an “Acting” appointment. POTUS isn’t going to get burned twice on this.

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        • sundance says:

          Very valid question. See, that’s the problem with leaks…. you never know the ulterior motives. Why not publicly release the information?…. then, if challenged; take you reasoning to the public….

          If a person is confident in the importance to leak; they should be confident in their position to stand and fight.

          [See my comment below]

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        • Jederman says:

          Are you talking the same Barr that’s tight with Mueller? I haven’t read that from anybody else but Graham so get out he salt. But after the Sessions debacle another DS AG would be a big big big problem for the WH.

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      • Jackson says:

        Epoch TImes started to promote Fulong Gong in China, a group that the ChiComs murder when they catch. It may well be that they have security and loyalty to sources that far exceed anything Fox or Brietbart can provide. Hell, Fox employs Shep Smith, who I wouldn’t trust standing behind me in the urinal line at an NFL hafltime, much less with classified reports in the room.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Epoch Times is one of the very few media outlets I consider real journalists. It was started by Chinese Americans and remember the Clinton Server was sending copies of everything to China in real time.

        China Hacked Clinton’s Private Email Server
        “…The Chinese firm obtained Clinton’s emails in real time as she sent and received communications and documents through her personal server, according to the sources, who said the hacking was conducted as part of an intelligence operation.

        The Chinese wrote code that was embedded in the server, which was kept in Clinton’s residence in upstate New York. The code generated an instant “courtesy copy” for nearly all of her emails and forwarded them to the Chinese company, according to the sources.

        The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) found that virtually all of Clinton’s emails were sent to a “foreign entity,” Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, said at a July 12 House Committee on the Judiciary hearing. He did not reveal the entity’s identity, but said it was unrelated to Russia. ….”

        As a result of Clinton’s actions:

        Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying …
        May 20, 2017 · “At least 18 C.I.A. sources were killed or imprisoned in China between 2010 and 2012, one of the worst intelligence breaches in decades. … “https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spies-espionage.html

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    • Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

      Maybe there is some plan where this classified information can be released in small increments by the Trump Administration.

      Possibly (hopefully) it will be de-classified in synchronization with these upcoming Democrat committee investigations which are meant only to damage the President. That could possibly stop these threatened investigations in their tracks.

      I believe the President stated a few weeks ago that much of this protected information would, among other things, be very embarrassing to Obama.

      Also, would be sweet if Wray was ordered by Whitaker to fire Bowditch immediately. Might as well get the temporary AG’s feet wet, along with finding out if Wray would resign rather than do his job.

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      • Jackson says:

        It’s very very dangerous to release the actual classified information., Intel agencies often make very small changes to individual copies of docs they suspect may be leaked. Such as an extra comma somewhere. They then can identify exactly which copy the publishers got, and they are much closer to catching the leaker.

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        • Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

          Well and good Jackson, but if the administration released classified information then it would not be a crime. It would also probably destroy any false narratives that the Democrats are trying to construct.

          These upcoming investigations are meant only to frighten and damage honest citizens. I hope the President and his lawyers can try to limit the damage to innocent people by using these documents in a responsible fashion.

          I don’t care for leakers much. Speak up or stay out of the way.

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          • De Oppresso Liber says:

            Well said, Stab. I would like to know the real reason President Trump reversed himself on releasing the FISA docs prior to the mid-term elections. …..in due time, I suppose.

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      • RJones says:

        This transcript was not classified. It was law enforcement sensitive. There is a benefit to us in getting more puzzle pieces. But, there is an offsetting downside since everyone, including bad guys, now know much of what her story was to Congress.

        FWIW, in reading the story, I did not conclude Page was all that forthcoming. She was suspiciously ignorant of many topics she was in a position to know much more about.her ignorance smelled like coverup to me. If true, I hope she gets caught in a lie. Criminals always think they’re smarter than they are.

        The part of her testimony that really ticked me off was the garbage about Clinton’s handling of classified information not being intentional under any standard one wishes to propose. Discerning intention is only a mystery when applied to Clinton.

        If anyone can give me an explanation of how Special Access Program information moves from a SCIF to a non-government, 3rd party, unclassified, virtually unprotected system without violating the law I will listen…with GREAT skepticism. I do not believe it’s possible. And, I would say the same of any other classified document. Classified documents are all very clearly marked, classification is sentence by sentence, and the documents are carefully handled. Moving such information to Clinton’s email required removing all the portion markings and cover sheets…which clearly demonstrates intentionality. End of story.

        I would be far more forgiving of classified information carelessly disclosed in email conversations. The classification rules can sometimes be hard to apply. Not the case with documents and, for heaven’s sake, not SAP information. Loss of SAP info can get people killed.

        How is Clinton and less responsible than the dude who took a pic of his submarine or the idiot stealing documents from the national archives or the idiot philandering general?

        Clinton and her cronies should each have received 10 years. And, regardless of anything else, Page should go to prison for 2 years just for lying about this subject.

        Liked by 6 people

        • snarkybeach says:

          wasn’t there a Wikileaks email about Mrs. Clinton’s housekeeper faxing classified information to Huma?

          Liked by 1 person

        • eric1skeptic says:

          “If anyone can give me an explanation of how Special Access Program information moves from a SCIF to a non-government, 3rd party, unclassified, virtually unprotected system without violating the law I will listen…with GREAT skepticism”

          Very simple. Read it on one system and type it into the other. In most cases the two systems, high and low, are side-by-side.

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        • donna kovacevic says:

          Was Page not held back in giving a lot of information out by the FBI lawyers? Dan Bongino had much of this story disclosed on his podcast today. He also mentioned the name Carlin that resigned from O administration. So much evil has and is still going on in the dirty, traitorous agencies CIA FBI DOD etc. Fumigated they all need to be to extinction.

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    • Snowball says:

      It appears that a local school buse driver knows more about what’s going on in DC than this site does. Opinions are like ass holes , everyone has one.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        It appears that a local school bus driver knows more about what’s going on in DC than this site does.

        AHA!

        So you’ve FINALLY unveiled THE
        “anonymous source familiar with the matter”
        that has been the origin of ALL the stories for NYT, WaPo and CNN for the past 2 years.

        There hasn’t been this epic a reveal since “Deep Throat” or “Who shot J.R.”

        Many thanks.
        I will finally get a full night’s sleep.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Johnny says:

        Yours is right under your upper lip, you pussy hat wearing snowball. Did you hold Hillarys hand when she got hear ass kicked in the election? Or were you the newest addition to the Bill Clinton knee pad club?

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    • Mark L. says:

      So who here thinks Barr offers a solution?

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  2. Mr. T. says:

    Sundance, you summed it up best, FUBAR!

    Liked by 9 people

  3. DonnyVee says:

    “The whole thing is FUBAR.” I heartily concur. And our country is quickly becoming FUBAR!!

    Liked by 8 people

  4. Ziiggii says:

    🤔, makes ya wonder about Barr’s nomination and the memo that he wrote arguing against his friend Mueller’s obstruction position as SC….

    Liked by 9 people

  5. Clarence Smith says:

    Can i get a Tic Toc anyone???

    Liked by 2 people

  6. Steve in MT says:

    This adds to my theory that while the FBI/DOJ were anti Trump, they were mostly advance the agency. Everyone figured Hillary would win, and the sham investigation would have been evident even to her. With that leverage, they would own the Hildebeest. The backup plan was to weaken or destroy Trump as the insurance policy.
    In either case, Justice would have leverage over whoever took the White House. So when McCabe went to see Priebus and tell him that the FBI knew the stories in the NYT were bogus, that was a subtle hint that Trump could be messed with. Problem is, Trump did not react as expected, which was to quietly agree to whatever DOJ wanted. Then Trump fires Comey on the basis of the Rosenstein memo. That’s when things went to hell.
    Trump was supposed to agree to everything they wanted and he would have been fine. But the arrogance of the DOJ misread what was an implied threat being accepted by Trump. Instead, he blew it up and that’s why they went with Muller.

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  7. David A says:

    ” SR says, ” waiting for more then Trump tweets”

    Yes, and common sense would assert that D.T. is doing more then tweeting complaints. Yet try as I might, I cannot find evidence of whatever plan there may be.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Elaine Keller says:

      I listened to a Cory Lewandowski interview in a podcast a few weeks ago……I think it was Whiskey Politics….. Lewandowski said that PDJT is holding his cards until the 2020 campaign.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Albertus Magnus says:

        Don’t we just know it though. Holding cards until: 1)Comey is gone; 2) Horowitz releases his report; 3) PDJT declassifies the reports; 4) Mid-terms are over; 4) Sessions is gone; 4) Whittaker takes over; 5) Barr is in……

        BS.

        Nothing is going to be done and PDJT is NOT going to do anything UNLESS Mueller goes after him personally or his family. EVERYONE is going to walk.

        It is what it is. TBH, I am not one who cares.

        If PDJT gives us a conservative court, MAGA trade and economics, defunds anti-life causes and defends religious freedoms, I am more than pleased.

        I just wish he would MOVE ON HIMSELF if he isn’t going to do anything in the end about this crap. Only thing worse than a DeepState that operates without fear of retribution is when OUR SIDE promises and threatens to do put an end to it and doesn’t.

        It is time to put up, shut up and/or move on to the next battle.

        Liked by 5 people

        • Coast says:

          I can’t say I disagree.

          Liked by 1 person

        • Trashing our President, are ya? Maybe you didn’t think so, but you did… get a grip, you don’t know the future nor what the MAN that kept krooked killery out of the White House has in store for these sick derp state traitors any more than the rest of us. He told us he would fight to end the corruption, he didn’t say WHEN it would happen, how could he have?

          BTW, President Trump is pretty much damn near alone in “being on our side”, so why not trash the scum surrounding him that are blocking him every chance they get instead? It’s called putting the blame where it belongs.

          Just stop, especially if you’re being truthful about not being one “who cares”, because you’ve gone too far.

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          • albertus magnus says:

            Stop being an idiot. I am not trashing anyone, much less PDJT….who I was supporting back when you had your head up Cruz’s behind.

            I am just saying that IF PDJT isnt going to expose this BS to the sunlight then HE needs to move on as this ongoing situation MAY NOT and is NOT LIKELY to lead to indictments but the constant raising the call to arms only to retreat or withdraw is NOT HELPING HIM.

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      • Armchair Quarterback says:

        Insert big eye roll here 🙄

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    • Phil Free says:

      -Good- plans remain hidden, until it is -time- for them to be revealed.

      Liked by 4 people

  8. tappin52 says:

    There is so much information available, as we have read on these pages of CTH, that it should be possible to break this mess open. I realize that those involved will fight tooth and nail to keep this under wraps, but it is out there. Surely somebody can blow this wide open.

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    • Mr. T. says:

      Tappin52, POTUS is the one holding the hand. He’s got those documents that he had wanted to declassify last year but decided to hold up for now. I believe when the time is right, he’ll play that hand, at least I hope that he does. If he does, a whole lot of swamp creatures are going to be feeling some pain.

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  9. For Eyes says:

    The call to fire Wray calmed down as Sessions left. Obviously that needs renewed attention.

    Liked by 14 people

  10. Mo says:

    Come out it will.

    Liked by 4 people

  11. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    I have read Mr. Carlson’s article twice now, and will probably read it many more times. Having read most of the text messages, and now this, my Cold Anger is approaching absolute zero. Many of her statements/answers astound my little pea brain. Any future articles may just do me in.

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  12. StanH says:

    Wow! There must be a reckoning for these jerks. They jumped into action with such alacrity and ease that would make one think that this kind of overt criminality is common place. We are in heap big trouble if this is the best we can do….just damn.

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  13. Michael Lorenzen says:

    45 caliber slugs for the lot

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  14. Mr Spock says:

    Hey Republicans…..What else still needs to be “leaked” to fully inform WE THE PEOPLE for whom you work? Republicans are so STUPID and way too HONEST.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Janie M. says:

      With a nod and a wink to the demorats, the RINOs are complicit, Mr. Spock.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Mr. T. says:

      Mr. Spock, surely you aren’t that naïve as to believe that all Republicans are way too honest. Stupid? Sure. Honest? Well, I have a hard time believing that Paul Ryan, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and quite a few others are honest. Maybe to their masters they serve, but they sure aren’t looking out for our interests.

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      • litlbit2 says:

        Yep, latest proof McCarthy/Republicans pass wall bill only to have McConnell pour water on it. Everybody still hidden. Now all are bidding behind the DNC with McConnell “will not bring bill POTUS won’t sign. Game plan still good! All still hidden.

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  15. Suzanne says:

    I really hope a new and improved circle in hell is being prepared for all of them

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  16. Moultrie Flag says:

    I’m alternating working and reading the release.

    That is a LOT of info.

    Brennan doing not nice things, and DOJ slamming the door shut on the FBI at every turn.

    I haven’t finished it all yet, but a picture is being painted. Maybe the FBI is not at least /completely/ evil. Sounds like the politicized DOJ spoke loudly and clear throughout the process….

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  17. Zippy says:

    “Leaked Transcripts from Lisa Page Provide Some Stunning Revelations…”

    Which, just like the great Huber “investigation” which was going to result in “something,” but instead resulted in the status quo nothing… will result in nothing. The system is FAR too corrupt to expect it to correct itself nor will mostly clueless voters demand it be fixed. Frankly, piling on more details does nothing more that prove the truth of that.

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  18. Trump2020 says:

    It sure is FUBAR! That’s why it will be the Military Tribunals to the rescue. These people will all be going down, I have no doubt about it! There is a plan in place, and Trump is giving these people all just enough rope to hang themselves. Do kid yourself, all their misdeeds are being followed and documented! Sure this is just my view of it, but I feel quite confident about it!

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    • Jackson says:

      Military Tribunals for US civilians are not Constitutional, as Abraham Lincoln found out. The only exception are foreign spies. Military courts are mostly for other military.

      Military Tribunals for known, self-confessed Al Qaeda terrorists have yet to be started at GITMO, after holding some of the detainees for 15 years.

      The only people talking up Military Tribunals for the Deep State Coup plotters are the Q-tards. I hope you aren’t getting sucked into that nonsense. Trust Sessions! Trust the Plan. Ha ha ha.

      The Q-tards will still be telling us Q is real and we need to “Trust the Plan” as Donald Trump is impeached and Don Jr. is indicted!

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      • Trump2020 says:

        You really need to read the executive order that just took effect on 1/1/2019. This executive order was even talked about during the Kavanaugh hearings. It’s now in effect and by all means will be used. I cannot help it you keep the wool pulled over your eyes. This is a new day. Wake up!

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    • Mr. T. says:

      Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? lol

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  19. Freedom says:

    Although this information will likely never see the light of day given the current shutdown/border security imbroglio, hopefully POTUS’ attorneys are keeping track. Will need to fight the Dems attempt to impeach.

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  20. Bendix says:

    I love it that so many Americans are going to know this now, than knew it before.

    I hate it that people like Lisa Page, public employee, think that their own puny little opinions on political matters are of consequence.

    Liked by 8 people

  21. woohoowee says:

    Howie was right: Nuke ’em all. Find an honest lawyer working for .Gov in Podunk, Somewhere USA, and have them indict everyone; starting with DiFi’s Chinese spy.

    Liked by 5 people

  22. Jack Dempsey says:

    May I point out that
    newly-discussed FBI agt Jonathan Moffa rhymes with Jimmy Hoffa,
    which could make this the best, most obvious (and most Seussian) disguise for the “dead” mobster in the world.
    Plus Mr. M/Hoffa would make a great FBI agent, given all the previous training.

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  23. loisplane says:

    The people around PDJT who recommended appointment of Dabney Friedrich and Barr are the insidious moles.

    Liked by 2 people

  24. emet says:

    I know this is old fashioned, but covering up felonies is in fact a felony under 18 USC 4 (misprision of a felony).

    Liked by 4 people

  25. Moultrie Flag says:

    She kind of paints a shield for the FBI. They got crushed and shut out by the DOJ.

    At least that is my take so far.

    Liked by 1 person

  26. Dad says:

    what are the chances they were under surveillance?
    I am hoping I know

    Liked by 1 person

  27. Gadsden says:

    I’m still 100% MAGA, but POTUS made a massive tactical error by not hiring the correct people at DOJ. I’m really shocked that he didn’t see that vioer’s nest for what it was.

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  28. Mike S says:

    “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer” comes to mind but this is ridiculous. I pray for the day cold justice is served to these rat ba*tards.

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  29. Clarioncaller says:

    Bowditch was the incompetent idiot who allowed the media to ‘bull rush’ through the apartment of the terror couple in San Bernardino while it was still a “crime scene”. I don’t think that was an accident.

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  30. WSB says:

    I just read a and posted the link to the Epoch Times piece on the open thread. Found this interesting as well:

    “According to Page’s testimony, she first learned of plans to obtain a FISA warrant on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page approximately a month before the FISA was granted on Oct. 21, 2016.

    Page disclosed that Deputy Assistant Attorney General Stu Evans was the person within the DOJ who was in charge of the entire FISA process, but notably, the FBI chose not to tell Evans that they had opened a counterintelligence investigation:

    “We were so concerned about the fact that we were opening this investigation and we were so concerned about leaks that we were literally individually making decisions about who to tell and who not to tell, because we were trying to keep it so closely held.”

    According to Page, the only DOJ official they told was George Toscas, the Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the National Security Division. Without forewarning to the FBI, Toscas informed Evans in August 2016—possibly earlier—of the FBI’s newly opened investigation.

    The text in question was from Aug. 10, 2016, and was paraphrased by one of the congressional representatives:

    “I remember what it was, Toscas already told Stu Evans everything. Sally called to set up a meeting.”

    As per Sundance many moons ago:


    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/28/the-mistresses-of-mirrored-halls-looking-at-the-corrupt-doj-side-of-operation-trump/comment-page-1/

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Page disclosed that Deputy Assistant Attorney General Stu Evans was the person within the DOJ who was in charge of the entire FISA process, but notably, the FBI chose not to tell Evans that they had opened a counterintelligence investigation:

      As interesting as it has been to learn about the abuses with NSA database:
      allowing access to query, 85% of which were not related to national security or intelligence
      It only makes sense they treated FISA similarly:
      like their own personal “glass against the door”

      Am I understanding this correctly?
      While Stu knew the FBI was seeking a FISA (on Carter Page) they didn’t want to tell him they had opened a counterintelligence investigation on him?

      I’m finding it very hard to imagine a scenario when a Title 1 FISA and a counterintelligence investigation DON’T GO HAND IN HAND due to all the predicates required by the FBI DIOG
      and FISA T 1 requirements, specifically the target must be
      1) acting as an agent of a foreign country
      AND
      2) committing or about to commit a federal crime

      Or has it become routine for FBI to just get FISA on anybody they want?

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  31. CM-TX says:

    | Page testified that she joined the team of special counsel Robert Mueller around —May 18, *2016*—and that FBI Agent Peter Strzok was considered for inclusion shortly thereafter.”… |
    *2016*: Year said in error, or a hell of an admission??

    (Confirms she was there to ‘bridge the gap & transition’ from ‘collusion investigation’ to SC investigation, utilizing prior knowledge & evidence collected.)

    | –noted that initially, Strzok was not “brought over as the senior executive to run the investigation. Another individual [John Brown] was, and that was not successful. It was not a good match with Mr. Mueller. …” |

    | Page agreed to work for a 45-day trial period, ….. Page left of her own volition [her children] and before Inspector General Michael Horowitz notified [Mueller & McCabe] of the texts… |

    | Prior to her work for [McCabe], Page worked within the DOJ—where Bruce Ohr was her direct supervisor for five to six years. Page also met Nellie Ohr [once]. |

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    • sundance says:

      “2016” is a mistake. It should be 2017. Lisa Page joined the Mueller team May 18th, 2017.

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      • Clarence Smith says:

        Are we sure they weren’t working on it that early………jus sayin!

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      • CM-TX says:

        Thanks for correction.

        Something you might recall better …

        In the initial batch of Page/Strzok texts– There was some discussion about a new position/opportunity being offered to Page, which involved looking into lots of “white-collar crimes.” Strzok also mentions a “$700k” salary, suggesting she take it.

        (IIRC, Texts were dated Aug 2015-Dec 2016) fairly sure their conversation preceded any supposed organic need for a Special Council in the Spring of 2017, which Page was an original member of.

        So was the opportunity discussed, possibly pertaining to a very pre-planned Special Counsel?

        Add to this, the idea of the SC being geared towards targeting PDJT & anyone associated with.

        Anyhow, just a potential theory.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      If this is Agent John Brown I could see how he might not be a “good match for Mueller”, Weissmann, Rhee and the rest of the merry men.

      Doesn’t seem like there’s a Strzok level of Swamp Stink on him.

      https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-brown-fbi-20180520-story.html

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  32. CNN_sucks says:

    Maybe because of shutdown all these criminals like Comey, RR, Stork and McCabe will not be able to collect their salary and pensions for good.

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  33. alliwantissometruth says:

    Well, when the closed club insiders are the ONLY ones doing the “work”, and when President Trump continues choosing from a list of insiders, we’ll keep going round and round

    I’m so sick of this insider BS. There’s over 350 million Americans. How about forgetting about the Washington insider rat list and picking some brilliant minds and tough patriot outsiders for positions inside the swamp?

    How about installing some fumigators instead of stench makers?

    Trump has to know this. Why is this BS still being allowed?

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  34. Mike says:

    Lisa Page says she had no knowledge of the Intelligence IG alerting Strzok of the third party (China) access to HRC’s email. Page, below

    “To the extent that a foreign government or even a criminal outlet had had access to Secretary Clinton’s private email server, that would have been something we cared very much about. And it’s my understanding that there was no evidence that would have supported that kind of conclusion.”

    So she is saying if this is true it would have been a big deal.

    Strzok testified to rep Gohmert he didn’t remember what the IC IG told him. Gohmert said the ICIG said no one from FBI ever followed up with the IG. Comey testified he didn’t remember, but then testified he saw no evidence of this intrusion. (Hey Jim, if you don’t look you’re not going to find any evidence.)

    If Page is telling the truth, she did not know. But clearly Strzok and Comey knew.

    THE IC IG HAD TO HAVE MADE A REPORT DOCUMENTING THIS INTRUSION. The IT investigator who found the breach would have documented his evidence. Gohmert named the IG and FBI agents involved.

    How hard can it be to contact the ICIG and find out what evidence he had of the intrusion, and what evidence he passed on to Strzok.

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  35. starfcker says:

    “DAG Rod Rosenstein was hired by President Trump at the direction of, and request of, AG Jeff Sessions. Rosenstein then recommended that President Trump hire FBI Director Chris Wray (a transparently useful idiot)….. Director Wray then hired David Bowditch as his deputy AND re-hired Dana Boente as FBI chief-legal-counsel.” All of this makes sense. Here’s the part I can’t reconcile. My opinion has always been that Sessions was a timid man who elevated himself into a position way beyond his competence and his level of courage. Stated the way you do above, he looks more to be another cog in the machine, with a specific role to play, at the direction of somebody else. Who might that be? Was he that compromised from the start?

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  36. sundance says:

    I don’t like this “leaking” stuff.

    I didn’t like it when Democrats were doing it to their allies in the media; I didn’t like it when the IC was doing it for political purposes; and I don’t like it when Republicans do it for the same reason. That process is prone to ulterior motives and manipulation. I just don’t like it.

    Enough with the leaking. Someone, please take some responsibility. Release the transcripts. Release the raw data. Stop with the filters and let the American people see the truth.

    I’ll share the information, and consider the background etc.; however, we deserve the unfiltered raw information so we can make up our own minds. Leaks only prolong corruption.

    That’s my take.

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      Wise.

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    • Monticello says:

      Agree 100%

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    • Ziiggii says:

      Hear him hear him!

      I’m confident that what Jeff has is the un-redacted transcript(s). What we will eventually get will not be un-redacted and will have to take Jeff’s word on what is behind the black marks.

      Don’t get me wrong I’m not mad at Jeff that he got a scoop, but I sure as hell question the who and why in this leak. More ppl need to be skeptical as to motives when these things leak like mana from heaven.

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    • For Eyes says:

      “Leaks only prolong corruption.”

      Leaks ARE corruption.

      At the least unethical.

      At the most illegal, when it is classified information.

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    • Lactantius says:

      My comment just below overlapped yours above, which I had not seen.

      What I wrote about the ethics of “leaking” still stands. The lesser of two evils has a long and studied history with St. Augustine giving it the most attention, but St. Thomas Aquinas updating it in the awakening from the “Dark Ages.” Emmanuel Kant wrote the seminal work, Grounding of the Metaphysics of Morals in the 1780’s period of the Enlightenment. Kant determined that the fundamental principles of morality are standard behavior for rational thinkers and that the “rightness” of an action is determined by the principle the “actor” chooses to act upon.

      If “leaking” serves the great good of revealing the truth which is being hidden to protect wrongdoing, the principle of truth outweighs the principle of “privacy.” This is not pretzel bending rationalization.

      That process [leaking] is prone to ulterior motives and manipulation. I just don’t like it.

      Enough with the leaking. Someone, please take some responsibility. Release the transcripts. Release the raw data. Stop with the filters and let the American people see the truth.

      This plea for honesty and integrity is counter-reactionary to the very nature of politics. The lesser of two evils standard is not the same as the “ends justify the means” standard. Niccolò Machiavelli’s “handbook” for the prince was never used. But it is an important work on how to be a tyrant or dictator and use various means to achieve a goal or end. It was written for ruling through power. Democracy and republics require an entirely different standard. Popularly elected representatives going into a hearing on a committee with the plan to leak in order to protect the guilty is quite different from being on the committee in the search of the truth and leaking the truth which is being locked away to protect the guilty. In one sense, not to leak, or blow the whistle is to aid and abet wrong-doing.

      The political swamp is a nasty place full of fools who rush in and profit from misdeeds and malfeasance.

      “If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.” – James Madison.

      I agree that some “higher power” should release what the committees have bottled up. The President does not have the right of access and the courts don’t have the power to act. So it is up to Congress itself. Who will do it?

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  37. Lactantius says:

    A member of a Congressional committee can not be punished for leaking. There is no “law” against “leaking,” – only a House or Senate rule. The member could be expelled from the House if 2/3rds of 435 members vote for expulsion. The House can also “Censure” and “Reprimand” by a majority vote. Because every Congressperson in the House “leaks” for his or her advantage, “leaking” has never been the cause of expulsion, censure or reprimand.

    We all know that Schiff, Warner and Boxer leak as a matter of strategy and then open-faced deny it. Ethics is concerned with probity; probity being moral principles, honesty and dignity. Situational Ethics is a farce by which liberals can justify whatever they wish.

    Suppose a (now) minority party on a committee has had his fill of the games DemonizingRats play and decides that “turnabout is fair play.” In Ethics, the rule of “the lessor of two evils” is rather straight forward. St. Thomas Aquinas acknowledged that the moral “rightness” or “wrongness” of an action depends on (1.) “yielding optimal consequences” and, more importantly, (2.) “on the quality of one’s intention.”

    So, if otherwise “transparent” material is being hidden in order to protect the nefarious acts of a person, Ethics backs the concept of the “greater good.”

    Now that the DemonizingRats have got the leadership control of “investigations” it would seem that they might be just as devious in pursuing the truth as they were when they were engaged in attempting to keep the truth from emerging when they were the minority.

    The “problems” the DemonizingRats have now is that “two can play the game by their rules” and since the “truth” is the greater good when it comes to politically motivated cover-up, the door is wide open for Republican leaking.

    Bring it on.

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    • GB Bari says:

      The problem with leaking of otherwise “bottled up” information is that the particular choice of leaked material along with the timing of the leak may be serving a more nefarious purpose than the wrongdoing that the leaked information itself exposes.

      We who are outside of this entire process are still quite unequipped (informationally) to determine if the leak meets your and St. Thomas Aquinas’ definitions of “greater good.”

      And that, I believe, is about what Sundance is expressing his exasperation.

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      • Lactantius says:

        Whistleblowing and leaking always taint the source and result in the source having to convince the “jury” that it was a matter of the greater good. Ethics is not a science. Life is full of contradictions and philosophy is nothing more than a reasoned process for unwrapping the contradictions.

        Those of us who are asked to examine contradictions have ethical benchmarks with help order the examination process.is “Quod Erat Demonstrandum.” There is no proof. Eventually, some sort of jury has to weigh the reasoning and make a ruling.

        There is no definition of the greater good other than by weighing the lessor of two evils. The dispute is not within the good, but in judging the evils. When one of the “evils” is the decision to tell the truth, reasonable people typically prefer it. Sophie’s choice and the lady or the tiger are literary expositions concerning the unreasonable example of losing no matter what choice is made.

        Perhaps you and others could inform me of the compelling difference between leaking to establish the truth and whistleblowing.

        Leaking exacerbates me, as well. But once done, should we reject what we have learned?

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        • GB Bari says:

          I’m not 100% certain, but I believe that “whistleblowing” cannot be done anonymously.
          That’s why there are laws about it in most organizations – to protect the whistleblower (whose identity is known) from retribution by the entity (usually the whistleblower’s employer) about whom the derogatory info was revealed.

          OTOH, Leaking is almost always done anonymously and almost always leaves too many unanswered questions.

          You ask “But once done, should we reject what we have learned?”.
          If the leak includes verifiable sources of the information revealed, of course we canot reject it out of hand, but how do we know if it is complete – that the whole story is presented or if it has been selective and important information left out (kind of like the Carter Page FISA app that was given to the FISC…). Information that was *omitted* from the leak could potentially change the entire context and meaning of what *was*revealed.

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          • Lactantius says:

            I misused a term. I was using “whistleblower” as a generic “tattle tale.” The government does not have a generic anonymous whistleblower status to my knowledge.

            We can’t know if leaked information is complete or unbiased in its content. Nor can it be “cross examined” as it is anonymous. But like all raw data, it is potentially foundational.

            In reading what Sundance has gleaned, second hand, from The Epoch Times reporting, it would appear that a good detective can build on leaked information. I guess your trepidation goes to whether a clever lawyer can challenge it successfully in a courtroom.

            Ethics is a guidance system that is meant to help ethical people proceed. If, as in Sundance’s analysis, the leaked data is logical then he has not been “unethical” to proceed with it. In building a case, logical conclusions are oftentimes the best you have. I suppose a nitpicker might insist that The Epoch Times has made this stuff up in order to create a stir. That would then fall upon Sundance to support or refute. I imagine Sundance, like all good investigators, is “sitting on” information he can not verify and prefers to hold until he can verify it. He did say, quite clearly, that he would rather have the original documents than the information filtered by another entity. The ethics employed by Sundance is not in question.

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  38. “This whole thing is FUBAR.”, over a picture of a smiling, confident Obama/Soetoro.

    That juxtaposition is the most fitting item.

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  39. JAS says:

    The biggest government conspiracy since the founding of our country. “Come out it will”. In small pieces but SD will put it all together in due time. And I’ll buy the book in a New York minute (pun intended)!

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  40. Chuck Stephens says:

    Good, leak it all. Whatever works, leak it, hand over documents to sympathetic journalists, go deep and fight back…

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  41. dave says:

    time to start handing out pitchforks. if you want to see any justice done here. otherwise, it’s
    all a show for the masses who will switch to another channel.
    don’t expect to see a yellow vest movement here like what going on in the eu.
    thanks to the dept of education, the people do not know what they losing.

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    • G. Combs says:

      I am already collecting metal pitchforks.
      2 – three tine forks
      1- four tine fork
      3 – five tine manure forks

      All with new handles and nicely sharpened.

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  42. Bryan Alexander says:

    Here is a suggestion: Appoint Clarence Thomas as Attorney General. Tell him he has carte blanche to clean out the entire DOJ of the rot and filth.

    He can go ahead and appoint Thomas replacement.

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  43. woohoowee says:

    SC Mueller is illegal as started and a hoax can’t be classified. Nuke ’em all.

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  44. D says:

    And Trump hires BoB Muellers good ol buddy William Barr. Im sorry but this makes POTUS look stupid. Unless there is a “Plan”.

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    • CrewDog says:

      Hey “D” & Gang,

      Could the “PLAN” be to nominate Barr, leak info that will insure he WON’T get The Votes in the Senate and thus re-setting the Time Clock of the Interim AG that most here, Hope-n-Pray, is actually doing SOMETHING to insure the survival of The Republic!!?/

      GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC!!

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      • D says:

        That would be better than giving the DOJ to Barr. Barr is just another police state, let me spy on you to keep you safe, tyrant. Either potus is really misinformed or he just does not give a sh*t about cleaning up the DOJ.

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  45. jeans2nd says:

    Have not seen this asked yet, apologies if missed.
    Why are we believing these “leaks” are authentic?
    Merely b/c Epoch Times has been accurate before? What better way to take down Epoch Times than to “leak” an altered transcript? Why not leak to Catherin Herridge? Catherine Herridge is trusted as well, by all sides, and more widely read/listened.

    Call me a tin-foil hat wearer, it is ok.
    I wear rubber soled shoes.

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    • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

      Ha! Rubber soles….luv it

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    • sundance says:

      @jeans, you ask valid questions. I agree 100%. We don’t know the motives and intents at work behind the scenes here. Your questioning is prudent and wise.

      The FBI clearly refused to release the transcripts. The process of review for release appears to have been avoided by the leaker. Those who accept these leaks are putting targets on their back and not doing anyone a favor by not insisting that the raw material should accompany their reporting.

      You are not wearing tin-foil that any reasonable person would not also be wearing.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Thank you for asking the question. I had the same thought but failed to post it, thinking instead that others wiser than me had acepted the validity and scrutiny of both Carlson and the Epoch Times.

      If Carlson and the Epoch Times editorial staff do not know the identity of the leaker then the editor has potentially setup the publication as a tool of the leaker.

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    • jeans- thanks for your excellent post and Sundance’s response. It does put things in perspective.

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  46. It just boggles the brain to think that scumbag Sessions bought an additional 2 years of cover up for the deep state. Bastard should be hung for treason.

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    • D says:

      Sneaky little traitor. I wonder how much he got for his role. 10mil? 100mil?

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    • RJones says:

      I think Sessions should come out of his hole and publicly address what is known about all this. His reputation is clearly still in question and, after two years, it’s time to start leveling with people what the hell is going on and why we shouldn’t raze both DOJ and FBI.

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    • NC Patriot says:

      I think Sessions is an honest man who was totally overwhelmed by the LEVEL OF ROT—–and chose to focus on more manageable things like pedos and MS13 prosecutions and immigration that he knew POTUS also wanted..

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  47. pnj01 says:

    If Bowdich was serious about wanting more time, he could have proposed that he be given two more weeks. IOW, to Monday January 7. He didn’t. He complained about inadequate time but then gave himself unlimited time. That is stonewalling not a legitimate time complaint.

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  48. lotbusyexec says:

    I’ve had a few jobs in my day BUT NEVER did I “pose” for a photo such as Ms. Page has. Are these people Government royalty? Outlandish that a government employee has a headshot such as this. Part of the problem…

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  49. D says:

    Its 2019 and Obama still runs the DOJ, and is about to pass it off to the Bushes. Maybe by 2023 Trump will finally do his job and take over the DOJ.

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  50. dustahl says:

    Lisa Page is a skilled liar, rather obvious. DoJ and FBI hide behind each other and point fingers, seeking to create cover.

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