Things, that make other things, make sense…

In hindsight it is quite clear the professional political class had two approaches toward candidate Donald Trump:

♦ Approach #1 was to eliminate him: see spygate, surveillance, FBI, DOJ and CIA operations to destroy the threat etc.; the Special Counsel Mueller investigation is an ongoing continuance of that primary approach.

♦ Approach #2 was an effort involving the republican side of the deep state apparatus, who could be deployed as a controlling influence, on the inside.  [These would be the same people who earlier constructed the failed 2016 campaign ‘splitter strategy’ to help nominate Jeb Bush.]  Ongoing decepticon turnover, in opposition to the Trump policy implementation, seemingly reflects the consequences of the secondary approach.

While in charge of the transition team, Vice-President-elect Pence relied heavily on former Bush Secretary of State Condi Rice for cabinet and administration recommendations:


Condi Rice recommended: Rex Tillerson, HR McMaster, Nikki Haley and James Mattis.

FLASHBACK – In the months prior to the September 11th, 2001 attack, Condi Rice was the National Security Adviser to President Bush:

On July 10, 2001, two months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, then-CIA Director George J. Tenet met with his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black, at CIA headquarters to review the latest on Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda terrorist organization. Black laid out the case, consisting of communications intercepts and other top-secret intelligence showing the increasing likelihood that al-Qaeda would soon attack the United States. It was a mass of fragments and dots that nonetheless made a compelling case, so compelling to Tenet that he decided he and Black should go to the White House immediately.

Tenet called Condoleezza Rice, then national security adviser, from the car and said he needed to see her right away. There was no practical way she could refuse such a request from the CIA director.

For months, Tenet had been pressing Rice to set a clear counterterrorism policy, including specific presidential orders called “findings” that would give the CIA stronger authority to conduct covert action against bin Laden. Perhaps a dramatic appearance — Black called it an “out of cycle” session, beyond Tenet’s regular weekly meeting with Rice — would get her attention.  (read more)

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249 Responses to Things, that make other things, make sense…

  1. Jimmy Jack says:

    Like I’ve said here numerous times before I don’t trust Pence. I instinctively never trusted Pence despite his reputation as a religious evangelical family man.

    I believe Pence is Uniparty GOPe acting as controlled opposition, poised to take over for his handlers as soon as they can get rid of Trump.

    And I continue to believe Pence is wearing a wire (digital obviously) on Trump.

    I’m sure this becoming more clear is greatly disappointing to many good people here, especially evangelicals who trusted Pence.

    Liked by 2 people

    • NJ Transplant says:

      I’m with you, Jimmy.

      Liked by 1 person

    • CharlyG says:

      I wouldn’t think a wire would get through the elctronic surveillance at the WH…

      Liked by 1 person

    • MGBSE says:

      Did Pence recommend Sessions?


      • Dena says:

        I bet Session came out early for Trump just in case he won, so he could control all the corruption done at the DOJ, FBI, CIA and everywhere else…he was part of the insurance plan. Sessions hired Rosenstein and Wray. Crooks I say, all crooks!


    • cattastrophe says:

      I’ve see no actions or reports about Pence that would make me think he’s some kind of Machiavellian character just waiting for a chance to undo President Trump. He’s done an admirable job as VP. The only way we’ll know if he’s the traitor you describe is if it happens as you’ve suggested, other negative actions come to light or he retires and shows what you consider to be his true colors afterwards, as so many have done. Until then I see no reason to disparage him with unfounded imaginative opinions.

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      • G. Combs says:

        …General Flynn….

        The hearty greeting Pence gave Hillary & Obama’s at the Bush funeral…

        President and the First lady DID NOT great or shake hands with the Pences at the funeral

        From Singingsoul:
        “…Pence also took out Flynn’s son from the transition team.
        Pence lead the transittion team that gave us some of the mistake hirings.

        Pence lead the voter fraud group. [that PDJThad to kill}
        Pence lead the Obamacare repeal.
        Pence was supposed to be the bridge between senate and WH and even had his office there.
        Has anyone observed in photos how Pence positioned himself and how he stands to pop out…?
        I do not trust him he is swamp and it was Chris Christi who brought Trump to Pence.
        Pence was a Cruz supporter guess who else was..?

        Liked by 1 person

        • OmegaManBlue says:

          Flynn’s son was lose cannon. Honestly at the time I wanted him to shut his mouth. Removing him was the right choice.


  2. SilenceTheSheep says:

    I follow the logic of the post…but I’m not following how the linked article shows anything related to Trump….it simply shows that Rice was presented w/intel suggesting we should move on Bin Laden prior to the Sep 11 attacks…that’s not some deep state conspiracy…anybody that has been around intel understands how spotty it can be and that misinformation campaigns taint the water

    Liked by 2 people

    • WSB says:

      See my posts below.


    • gymcy81 says:

      …and that some intel, state, doj folks (Brennan etal) can have a hidden agenda such that they may ‘smartly’ bait, or mislead a move by some other pawn or bishop, etc. …

      [sadly, it’s enough that gets russia, china, bin laden, Iran etc. to grin with the potential of shrewd, exploitive opportunities)

      A lot of people have the instincts to detect the indicators. The wise ones, do not tell you they do (until the facts have been assembled enough to capture the pawn, or bishop etc.).

      A lot of other people have the instincts to hide the indicators. The wise ones, do not tell you….

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  3. Bendix says:

    I’m still trying to figure out how the strange case of Anthony Weiner fits in with all this.
    Anthony gets contacted by a fifteen year old girl, who then claims to be disgusted by the perviness of the known perv she contacted.
    The young teen allegedly writes a very politicized letter to James Comey, of all people, which Buzzfeed somehow obtains.
    The girl’s father allows the girl to show her face in the MSM (for money) but won’t allow her name to be used.
    Somehow young people who know this girl don’t start talking about her on social media.
    The same girl is allegedly involved with another underage sex case, this one statutory rape, with an ugly old guy who is a teacher but not a teacher at her school.
    The girl seems to have a father who is quite outspoken, but no mother.
    There are still unanswered questions about Anthony Weiner’s laptop.
    Anthony was threatened with federal charges of a sentence of ten years, to get him to accept a guilty plea involving jail time, for a case that normally would not involve a prison sentence.

    Somebody wanted Anthony incommunicado, and that laptop, we know it did not get wiped with a cloth or smashed with a hammer, so what about it?


  4. We have often wondered who was advising them on these picks. Condi Rice? Now it makes perfect sense. Should Trump and Pence be catching on by now?

    Liked by 2 people

  5. Jimmy Jack says:

    Does anyone else remember recently when Pence was asked about running as VP again and hesitated? In that hesitation Trump answered yes for him. I’ll look for the link but at the time I thought it was very telling. IMO Pence basically gave himself away and Trump let us know he was onto Pence.

    Liked by 3 people

    • AH_C, Boofer says:

      It was one of the final rallies prior to election, where Trump said of course we’ll run as a team again in 2020. My impression of the unspoken was like yours, that Pence wasn’t running again – either because he’s controlled opposition and Trump was on to him, or that he’s a cuck, more at home with the GOPe. Either way, I’d like to see him gone, unless Trump wants to keep him. I’d rather see Pence bow out and Flynn run with Trump on the 2020 ticket.

      Liked by 2 people

    • cattastrophe says:

      Could be telling maybe not. Just because Pence has done an admirable job as VP doesn’t mean he accepts all of Trump’s ideas although we have no way of know that either. Only President Trump and Pence know what their relationship is like. The rest of us are just guessing.

      Liked by 2 people

  6. Jimmy Jack says:

    One more thing – I was so happy to see this here finally I got ahead of myself.

    On the issue of declassification. If Trump would declassify more on FISAGate I think we’ll find that Pence is part of the spy apparatus on Trump. I stand behind him needing to declassify ASAP and to declassify as much as possible. I think his life is at risk and this could save him.

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  7. WSB says:

    This was in Nikki Haley’s Twitter feed:

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  8. WSB says:

    J.Cofer Black – GHW Bush CIA Operative, Director, CTC, 1999-2002, and thensome:

    “Private sector work (2005 – present)[edit]
    From 2005 to 2008 Black was Vice Chairman of Blackwater USA (later renamed Blackwater Worldwide, then Xe, and finally Academi), a US-based private security firm which is “the biggest of the State Department’s three private security contractors”.[24] Black resigned in 2008 reportedly after learning of illegal payments to Iraqi officials.[25]

    Black is also Chairman of Total Intelligence Solutions (Total Intel), a private intelligence gathering group. This company was created in February 2007 by the Prince Group, the holding company that owns Blackwater. Total Intel was formed by the merger of The Black Group LLC (also led by Black), Terrorism Research Center, Inc., and Technical Defense.[26]

    In March 2006 Black allegedly suggested at an international conference in Amman, Jordan, that Blackwater USA was ready to move towards providing security professionals up to brigade size for humanitarian efforts and low intensity conflicts. Black denies the allegation. Critics have suggested this may be going too far in putting political decisions in the hands of privately owned corporations.[27] The company denies this was ever said.[28]

    In January 2016 Black became an independent director of publicly traded biotechnology company Northwest Biotherapeutics (NWBO) to investigate the market manipulation of the company’s stock by the hedge fund “wolfpack”. The wolfpack and others use naked shorting of stock to drive promising young biotechs toward bankruptcy or to the point where they need to raise capital at extremely low valuations from the wolfpack themselves.[29]

    In February 2017, Burisma Group announced the addition of Black to the company’s board of directors.[30]

    **************** SEE THIS ***************

    Mitt Romney presidential campaign[edit]
    On April 26, 2007, Black was chosen by Mitt Romney, a Republican candidate in the 2008 United States presidential election, to head his counter-terrorism policy advisory group.[31]

    In October 2011, Black was chosen by Romney to serve as “Special Adviser” on all foreign policy issues.[32]”

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  9. WSB says:

    BINGO! Burisma Holdings

    “A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia’s content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (December 2015) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)

    Burisma Holdings

    Type – Private
    Industry Oil and gas
    Founded 2002
    Founder Mykola Zlochevsky
    Headquarters Limassol, Cyprus
    Key people
    Alan Apter (Non-executive chairman), Aleksander Kwaśniewski (Independent director), Hunter Biden (Independent director)
    Burisma Group is an energy exploration and production company operating in the Ukrainian oil and gas market since 2002. The head office is in Limassol, Cyprus.[1]

    Burisma Group was founded in 2002 by Ukrainian businessman Mykola Zlochevsky and Nikolay Lysin [uk]. Now it is owned by Mykola Zlochevskyi [uk].

    Burisma Ukraine[edit]
    Burisma Group is the leading private natural gas producer operating in Ukraine. Offering a wide range of services, company is the first and only fully integrated gas operator in Ukraine engaged in the exploration, production, processing, transportation, and final sale of hydrocarbons. The company holds 35 licenses for hydrocarbon production in all main oil and gas basins of Ukraine, including Dnieper-Donets and Carpathian. The fields are connected to nearby gas pipelines. 87% of EBITDA is generated in the Dnieper-Donets basin. 91% of Burisma Groups’ production volume comes from the Dnieper-Donets basin, which contains 82% of the natural gas reserves in Ukraine. The company has a 30% share among independent domestic oil and gas producers.

    EXPLORATION The Group uses 40,000 channels and 30 seismic vibrators for geological research.

    PRODUCTION Burisma Group operates the largest drilling fleet in the country, including 20 machines of various modifications and capacities. The SK 3000 drilling rig with a lifting capacity of 680 metric tons is among them.

    SERVICE Burisma Group performs well repair works, provides services of hydraulic fracturing (fracturing). Burisma Group operates the largest hydraulic fracturing fleet in the country consisting of 15 pumps with a total capacity of 35,000 horsepower.

    ************* SEE THIS **********************

    Board of directors[edit]

    Aleksander Kwaśniewski, former President of the Republic of Poland, was appointed to the board in January 2014.[2]. A number of non-Ukrainian directors were appointed in 2014, including Aleksander Kwaśniewski, former President of the Republic of Poland, appointed in January 2014.[2]

    On 18 April 2014, Burisma Holdings announced Hunter Biden’s appointment to the board. On their website, Biden wrote that he believed Burisma was important to the economy of Ukraine and that he would be “consulting the company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities”.[3] He became an acting member of the board of directors on 12 May 2014.[4] In February 2016, Joseph Cofer Black, the Director of the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center (CTC) (1999-2002) in the George W. Bush administration and Ambassador at Large for counter-terrorism (2002-2004) joined Burisma’s Board of Directors.[5]”

    Things, that make other things, make sense.

    George Papadopoulos has a story to tell.

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  10. yonason says:

    Condoleezza Rice

    She’s not cheap, but she is easy.

    Liked by 1 person

  11. docpounder says:

    “Paranoia strikes deep,into your life it will creep, it starts when your always afraid,step outta line, the man come and take you away.” Relax, PDJT is finding out who is on OUR side, and purging the people who are not. He is the first person to run into this constant assault coming from all sides and I think he’s doing a damn good job! Keep the faith.

    Liked by 1 person

    • WSB says:

      I agree. The swamp, IMHO, has not yet been able to slither around long enough before someone is walking out the door or being fired.

      Meantime, PT is picking all the intelligence from each swamp vermin.


  12. smaricic says:

    The Flashback section proposes that George Tenet was trying to get his fears about bin Laden through to George W. Bush, but that Condi Rice blocked his message. I have no idea if this is true, but these questions come to mind: Doesn’t the intelligence community brief the President almost every day? Couldn’t Tenet insert his fears into one or more such briefings?

    Liked by 2 people

    • WSB says:

      This WaPo article seems to be trying to rewrite history or pass blame on Condoliza Rice.

      One can never be sure why the WaPo Club is presenting anything unless you follow the paper daily.


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