What a Mess – The Congressional Hearing With Clinton Foundation Investigators…

Today there was a much hyped congressional hearing, spearheaded by sub-committee chairman Mark Meadows, into issues surrounding the Clinton Foundation and the possibility of IRS tax avoidance schemes. The backstory is of particular importance because the hearing is being framed by the ‘tick-tock-boom club‘ as something it was not.

There is a policy within the IRS that any person can report fraudulent tax filings, or the lack thereof, by any American taxpayer – toward any individual or group that is avoiding the payment of taxes. The IRS has a process to receive “tips” and claims from anyone to their investigative unit.  If the tip ends up in the IRS being able to secure missing tax payments, the tipster can get a percentage reward based on the amount of the taxes the IRS can recover.  The reward percentage is from 10% to 30% of the recovered amount.

Mr. Lawrence W. Doyle and Mr. John Moynihan, are the proprietors of a firm called MDA Analytics.  They are two ‘tipsters’, financial bounty hunters, calling themselves ‘whistle-blowers’, who have researched the Clinton Foundation and informed the IRS that based on their research the foundation owes back taxes.  They duo are hopeful to receive an IRS award based on their estimation of missing tax payments of between $400 million and $2.5 billion. In addition to their patriotic duty, this is the financial motivation behind Mr. Doyle and Mr. Moynihan.

If the IRS were to agree with Mr. Doyle and Mr. Moynihan, the two “financial investigators” would likely gain substantial financial rewards.  As an outcome of their financial motive Mr. Doyle and Mr. Moynihan consider their investigative material to be of proprietary value.  They’ve done all the leg-work and they are hesitant to give the material to any other party that might exploit some of their information for a similar purpose or intent; so they guard their research closely (also didn’t give it to congress).

In 2017 Mr. Monynihan and Mr. Doyle submitted their Clinton Foundation tax research to the IRS in hopes the IRS would agree to millions, perhaps billions, of missing tax payments by the foundation; and by extension they would get paid.  However, in August of 2018 the IRS informed them there was no IRS case.  Mr. Doyle and Mr. Moynihan are appealing that decision by the IRS office.

Understanding that politics is likely part of the issue; and in an effort to give ammunition to their multi-year endeavor; Mr Doyle and Mr. Monynihan gave portions of their documents to journalist John Solomon. Mr. Solomon then began a lengthy process of reconfirming the investigative material given by Doyle and Moynihan.

Part of John Solomon’s research effort involved sharing the material with Representative Mark Meadows who chairs a sub-committee within the oversight committee that might have jurisdiction on tangentially related matters of government corruption.

Against the backdrop of several years of questions and suspicions around the sketchy Clinton finances, representative Mark Meadows recognized the political value of the research in addition to the factual concerns that might possibly be present.

Additionally, in the background of the timing; during the period when the IRS received the material from Monynihan and Doyle; there was presumably an investigation started into the Foundation opened by the Jeff Sessions DOJ through U.S. Attorney John Huber.  So Representative Meadows called a hearing to overlap inquiry about a DOJ investigation into the Foundation with testimony from Mr. Doyle and Mr. Monynihan.

Summary: Two guys did extensive research into the Clinton Foundation and believe they have found tax violations.  If correct the financial bounty hunters would gain millions.  The IRS looked at the material and disagreed. The two guys then turned to John Solomon; who in turn went to Mark Meadows; and against the possibility of an open DOJ investigation of Clinton, Meadows scheduled a hearing.  That hearing is what took place today.

Do not take my word for it.  Watch the last 20 minutes of the hearing for a perfect summary of findings, motives and current, well, rather goofy, status.  This video is prompted to begin at 02:18:40… [Prompted just hit playWATCH ]

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406 Responses to What a Mess – The Congressional Hearing With Clinton Foundation Investigators…

  1. BSR says:

    So…A Democrat swamp member has but one stop to prep for tomorrow. Tick tock boom report. Great observation Sundance.

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    • sundance says:

      Liked by 21 people

      • BSR says:

        This reply made my day. 😂😂

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      • Vor Daj says:

        I think I see a couple of Cheery Bombs in there too.

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      • WSB says:

        These guys are SHARP!!!!

        “We gave our research to prosecutorial agencies, of which you are not.”

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        • WSB says:

          PS Mark Meadows looked completely unprepared for this.

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          • smartyjones1 says:

            Those two Clinton Foundation bounty hunters basically said the committee could not protect their financial interests with the IRS and other avenues they have to pursue. As a result, they would not be turning over their research handed over to the IRS and DOJ earlier. But, there’s much lost in all the anger conveyed in the retelling of the story here.

            According to these guys, the Clinton Foundation is operating as a foreign agent not as a charity. That’s been missed entirely here. A major falling out occurred between the Bill Gates and Bill Clinton over the shoddiness at the Clinton Foundation is another notable aside.

            In addition, they added their personal belief based on interactions with the FBI in Little Rock that there’s an ongoing serious investigation into the Clinton Foundation. The idea a duplicate investigation required out of Salt Lake is a bridge too far. Why would you want to waste resources that way?

            Their research covered about a decade or more back from 2015. They were asked what portion of funds in the Clinton Foundation went to actual charitable services and they estimated only in the ballpark of 40%, an abomination of a charity. They referenced an internal CF employee saying that funds are being abused for personal purposes such as personal flights and vacation. Others have recounted stories of Bill Clinton being “out of control” and no one being able to stop his personal expenditures.

            People are looking at one narrow pathway but at one time there was quite literally four FBI offices looking at the Clinton Foundation and former AG Loretta Lynch shut it all down.

            Ain’t gonna happen this time folks, ain’t gonna happen. The Clinton Foundation is going to be dismantled, shackled and quartered.

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          • Could you imagine that idio……um, gentleman as chief of staff?

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  2. BSR says:

    Carter Solomon Etc have bought into their own hype. Sharpest crease in the slacks no matter where they go. 🙄

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  3. wholland50 says:

    Sundance, why no mention of the work compiled by Judicial Watch? Tom Fitton’s opening statement suggested that they did their own work investing the CF. Am I misunderstanding something?

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  4. WES says:

    Maybe Meadows is just trying to bring to everyone’s attention the fact that Huber has not investigated the Clinton foundation at all.

    Liked by 15 people

    • John Doe says:

      ^^^This^^^ I don’t think this was all bad. Why do I think it? Bomb threats across the country and no one on CNN or MSNBC and few on Fox have even mentioned it. Doom and gloom is very self defeating. Hang in there, everybody. You too, Sundance. We got this.

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      • stephenbaze says:

        Sometimes this is exactly how you get thru the junk and finally get results. I have no problem at all with these guys getting paid by IRS which is actually a very good thing. I also want to see Koskinin and Lerner prosecuted.

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        • Stephen- I was just thinking the same thing. It seemed to me that all the questioners on the Govt. side were resentful of the fact that these guys are actually trying to get PAID for their hard work. What the hell is up with that?

          Also, many thanks as always to our Sundance for his diligence, patriotism and vigilance.

          The Tree House is the only place I can come to where I can be with like minded Patriots who are not afraid to admit they love their Country and support our President Trump.

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          • Kalbo says:

            Agree. Congress gets pad to provide oversight, investigate and get things fixed. Congress gets paid, yet no tangible deliverable.

            Moynihan and Doyle investigate on their dime and hope to get paid for it. If they do get paid, the Treasury has extra dough. 70% to 90% of the haul. Win win.

            Meadows, Norton and the other critter, irritating to listen to their condescending attitude directed at Moyihan and Doyle.

            Thought Meadows was a good guy. I knew Norton isn’t.

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          • cozette says:

            Reddit the _Donald is a very uplifting and fun filled site that I go to when I need a lift in spirits.

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      • madeline says:

        Me thinks Meadows will not be the CoS.

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    • PS says:

      But if that’s true, then what is the purpose of Hanniyu and the Q group building Huber and Horowitz into something they are not?

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      • WES says:

        PS: probably to divert positive energy for change into a negative dead end to be wasted!

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      • It’s called “data harvesting”

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      • CM-TX says:

        Supposedly, Huber was appointed by Sessions so to quiet demands for another special council.
        But Rosenstein took personal credit for Huber during his hearing. He said it while also agreeing w/ Jordan, he was “The Boss”.

        So it would seem any words or actions by “AG” Sessions, were really under Rosenstein’s directive. And given RR’s agenda- Huber was likely just a stall tactic.

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        • cozette says:

          Whoever told you that was incorrect. Sessions secretly appointed Huber last year to combine Horowitz’s investigative staff of 470 which is 20x what Mueller has with a 50 state prosecutorial staff. Turley called this move strategically brilliant. Naturally they wanted to keep the existence of this team under wraps so their targets would continue to feel secure. When the duplicitous Congress started clamoring for another 2nd Counsel, Mueller 2.1, Sessions reluctantly revealed Hubers name and that hed ben appointed 6 months prior.

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      • To detract us from the issues……Nothing less. This is what the Q movement is all about. To placate us…….TRUST JEFF SESSIONS…..trust the plan.

        People who still follow Q are a special kind of stupid.

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        • cozette says:

          Ive noticed that shills consistentky use ad hominem attacks and make sweeping generalizations. The intent seems to be to trigger negative emotions, shame and divide. May God bless all shills and fill their hearts with His love so that they can join with us while we MAGA.

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          • Alligator Gar says:

            Actually, SD posted an article he wrote some time ago requesting the Q crap be cut out. Sorry you missed it.

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            • Fake News says:

              Alligator
              I didn’t realize cozette was one of the Q crowd. I will not waste any time as it’s pointless. Am just stunned they keep moving the goal posts Everytime these predictions never come true. There come a time when they need to put it away.

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      • cozette says:

        Because Horowitz and Huber are working with Trump. Research and logic confirm this and m explain why. Two people are strangers. The other two have countless confirmed ties to our president. The choice is simple.

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    • WES says:

      We now also know the IRS isn’t interested in investigating the Clinton foundation. So if the DoJ and IRS aren’t interested then nobody is investigating the Clinton foundation. That implies President Trump doesn’t control either agency.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Yes, because there is a slug of Obama/Rat termites still in both agencies. People think along the lines of a new administration coming in and agencies like the DoJ and IRS deflating as the old Administration leaves. Don’t work like that as a professional POTUS kbnows one of his primary jobs is to get loyalists into appointed positions so that they can effect career hirings and promotions. When the Administration leaves office the appointees leave but their handiwork lives on.

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        • formerdem says:

          except the appointees do not leave, they burrow in at a high level, and furthermore, while they ARE in, they get their own people into civil service anyway. Is Life. Nothing to grieve over, is rules of the game. And we are not losing.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            The appointees are in just for the duration of that Administration but they do get to infect/corrode the agency by influencing the promotions of the SES and higher level GS career pukes. They are slavishly loyal to the Frankensteins who created them.
            The POTUS cannot directly have a hand in the hiring or promotions of full time, career Federal Civil Service employees so he gets his appointees to do it for him.

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            • tappin52 says:

              So how is it that Obama was able to put so many like minded individuals in so many positions and President Trump can not?

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              • swampratterrier says:

                Trump’s had a bit less than 2 years now compared to Hobama’s 8.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                Once you get full timers in place in the agencies it’s next to impossible to get them ousted. I saw people who couldn’t perform their jobs but due to the arcane and tortuous Civil Service laws they were locked in place and just allowed to exist on the fringes.
                Obama wasn’t facing the opposition that Trump is, Obama had the active assistance of the professional insiders and certain groups who saw his election as the political First Coming. There were also a lot of prog-ish folks getting ready to retire, a lot of mugwumps who hated Bush II and Obama had a professional crew that went to work salting the mine.
                Trump’s an outsider and you’ve seen how even the Republicans have resisted his plans and it’s hard enough getting stuff done in DC but when your own party fights you…

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            • formerdem says:

              the appointees burrow into the SES. u are right they should not but they do they do

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              • czarowniczy says:

                That’s their job. As for SES I’ve always been in favor of an open season, either sex and no bag limit on them. Problem is recycling the corpses, they’re non-edible and no good for anything else.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            As with the last Administration the stench lives on long after the turd’s been flushed.

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      • cozette says:

        President Trump said repeatedly durin the midterm rallies that he DOES control the FBI and DOJ now. Why not believe him? Additionally, you were misinformed by whoever told you that the CF was not being investigated. That started last year. You should hear nothing further until indictments are unsealed which means the investigation is done and the DOJ believes they’re ready to get convictions.

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    • stephenbaze says:

      Good point, Huber is being exposed now for his worthless efforts or lack of effort. Its coming people . Be patient and yes there is some hype , but there is always hype in everything.

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      • visage13 says:

        What is coming? It has been 2 years of tick tock, Horwitz & Huber and what has happened? Exactly, nothing. Smoke & mirrors. And people being taken down who are/were associated with Pres Trump by any means necessary.

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        • Crabby says:

          2 years, pfft. You are not taking into consideration the entrenchment, numbers and power of the bad people. You don’t fight that was quickly, or on any time table. POTUS waits until the field is aligned and take advantage of timing – real timing, not the OMG do it now timing. Complicated business – 2 years is the beginning not the end.

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          • visage13 says:

            Yes, I have been hearing about “timing” for two years eventually, time’s up. Honestly, I think it is all one huge distraction so Pres Trump can get the real work done i.e the wall, NK, bringing jobs back, negotiating trade deals etc. It is all just a shiny object for the media to focus on while he is getting the real work done & I am perfectly fine with that. I am just over the “it’s happening” because NO it isn’t, “trust the plan” because there is NO plan. Huber is working on it really? He didn’t even show up it is laughable. No high profile Democrat is going to jail or Gitmo or anywhere else.

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            • redridge45 says:

              President Trump doesn’t seem like a guy that is going to build out and staff the Guantanamo Bay facility for no reason…

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            • cozette says:

              Do you seriously believe Trump is so stupid that he would go to war with global evil without a plan? Do you think Trumps military and intel guys especially are so inept that they wouldnt have a plan to win this war with global evil? Seriously? If you do think hes that dumb then that explains why youre anxious and upset. As for me, I know enough about Trump to know that he always has a plan. Hes a tactical genius. And yes, I’m going to trust his battle plan, the plan, and his team. Why on earth wouldn’t I? If only more people trusted Trumps plan we’d have fewer people worrying themselves sick over things they can’t control. As for me, I’m praying and enjoying this unique moment in history.

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              • visage13 says:

                My comment had zero do do with President Trump re-read it. It was about the people who cry wolf with the tick tock, trust the plan, Huber and BTW Sessions are building cases. Look how that turned out. I believe it is all a distraction so our President can do all the other stuff I listed.

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              • hippielouie says:

                thank u!!!

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          • Kenji says:

            Two years on, and a House Full of vicious Dem obstructionists and my question is … WHO … carries on after Trump is gone? What American with an R behind their name is willing to take the heat to restore faith in our institutions? To chase the vermin out of our government? Economic cycles suggest an economic downturn about 2020 … and Trump will struggle to eek out a victory. So who’s next, if Trump doesn’t clean up the filthy pig sty the government has become?

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        • madeline says:

          Jeff Sessions is really looking incredibly incompetent at this point. He was so played.

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      • Farmkid says:

        Huber was exposed when we learned he had not interviewed Orr.
        (expletive deleted)

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      • cozette says:

        Huh? You’ve concluded that Trumps pick who is a total stranger to you is worthless because he follows the law and refuses to talk about an ongoing investigation? He’s worthless because hed prefer locking the bastards up rather than risking everything to entertain you with udates? Seriously?

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    • daizeez says:

      Exactly right. They knew yesterday Huber was not appearing, so why the name tag on the table with HUBER’s name on it next to Tom Fitton’s. This was all to prove a point and little else.

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    • WSB says:

      Could be. Because I could not understand Meadows’ questioning, and the two witnesses completely knew their scope of work.

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    • cozette says:

      It is the policy ofvthe DOJ to refuse comment around ongoing investigations because every time you talk you risk tipping off your targets so how on earth would Meadows know ANYTHING about the investigation other than it exists and is still ongoing. How can anyone figure out that it’s still ongoing? Because Huber is still keeping his mouth shut. Thank God.

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      • Alligator Gar says:

        I will not listen to this garbage that Huber is working for the people in this. Why? Because Huber “lost” the info twice and only requested it a third time because the CF issues came out in public. But, yeah, keep slurping on the Huber is working for the President Koolade.

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  5. albertus magnus says:

    Sundance does an excellent job again, as usual.

    Sure hope PDJT and the MAGA forces can get control of the political situation and make changes as whatever is or isnt being done isnt working.

    At least not working for the good guys, that is.

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    • Julian says:

      Meadows probably cranky Trump passed over him for Chief of Staff in favour of Jared.

      That kind of nepotism would make me cranky as well if I were Meadows.

      No doubt Jared told Trump Meadows would be ‘trouble’.

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      • trialbytruth says:

        If Trump wants Jared to be his COS so be it. I doubt anyone would defend him or understand him as well.

        Nepotism give me a damn break Nepotism is when you hire family who are.unqualified to work never expecting them to do there job. I would hire my son to work for.me.in a heart beat he is the only man I know that would.work as hard as me to solve a problem…. Unfortunate I can’t afford.him.

        The COS job is the Presidents to pick NO ONE gets a voice in his selection. He can hire Baron if he wants and my guess is he would be a better.pick then any.of the Presidential handwringers that have been populating this.blog lately.

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      • Buck says:

        CNN has reported Chris Christie has challenged Jared to a duel (with pistols) on the WH lawn for the CoS gig. Alex Jones to officiate!

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  6. Sherri Young says:

    The hearing devolved into a circus and Mark Meadows did it by getting cranky. Very disappointing.

    All the same, I have watched/listened to Charles Ortel and Jason Goodman’s presentations since they began. I believe Charles Ortel. He and these two gentlemen agree that the Clinton Foundation was formed to fund the Clinton presidential library in Little Rock. Period. Instead, it has turned into a global slush fund. Apparently some of the donors, including sovereign nations claim that the Clinton Foundation has reported much smaller donations on the IRS 990’s than what is factual. The Clintons apparently have abused foundation funds for private travel (and whatever else they may desire).

    This is not a nothing burger. Too bad that the hearing went completely off the rails.

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    • Sherri- agree about Meadows getting cranky. Not his usual self at all.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      Meadows looked silly while trying to discredit the whistle blowers.
      I think he’s really just another swamp critter, just like his good friend on his right.

      And to make it worse, Meadows had some woman with him that couldn’t stop laughing and giggling. I’m thinking that the Freedom Caucus are a bunch of really good actors.
      They’re just playing their part.
      What a joke!

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      • Farmkid says:

        Mopar you are dead on, the optics on her were embarrassing and demeaned the inquiry.
        There is something to be said for decorum.

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      • Marc says:

        There’s a reason some of us dubbed them the “Freedumb Caucus”. All principles, no action, especially early in the Trump presidency when he was trying to get vital legislature to his desk to be signed. I have a feeling it will be the Freedom Caucus that slyly opposes POTUS on infrastructure next year. Just wait for their staid, magnanimous speeches on the House floor telling us how building up infrastructure is a misuse of taxpayer dollars.

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  7. Where was Charles Ortel?

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  8. Justin Green says:

    Well, in theory, they should prevail. The legal violations and tax ramifications aren’t controversial at all.
    But the IRS is still Democrat. So they will toss the appeal in the same trash can the initial filing went into.

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  9. Merkin Muffy says:

    The Department Of Justice works exclusively for the Democratic Party and God help the rest of us.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Sherri Young says:

      …at least the National Security Division of the DOJ.

      Liked by 1 person

    • czarowniczy says:

      Back early in the Administration I said that DoJ would be a major problem for Trump as Obama not only knew the importance of stuffing Rat ctronies in every nook and cranny of it but making sure that the career positions were stocked with Rat loyalists. He had 8 years to work at it and he was very successful, his legacy will be there long after Trump’s gone even if Trump survives 2020.

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      • ArkansasLiving says:

        Yeah he had 8 years without anyone looking into the cabinet stuffing. Most regular people were too busy trying to survive his terrible economy, which more than likely was his goal. Keep everyone occupied while he stuffed the cabinets and agencies with corrupt counterparts.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          I remember in our agency when Bush II won and they kept Clinton’s official portrait up long enough into Bush’s term to where we filed a complaint.
          The ‘loyalists’ that were hired under Clinton led to the DC office, after giving our agency numerous chances to pull its head out, pulling a multi-billion dollar contract and giving it to a private agency.

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      • swampratterrier says:

        Rat poison……….

        Bet those greedy Rats will eat the poison Obama was spreading everywhere…….

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Just noted this AM that the Administration’s lost the court battle when it tried to block an Obama mandate forgiving (i.e. making us pay for) $150–million in student loans that he was to ‘forgive’. Buying the next generation of prog slugs.

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    • Farmkid says:

      So does this mean I still have to pay my taxes?

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  10. givingconniptions says:

    The empty chairs tell a better story without even speaking a word.

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    • As I was watching the testimony, all I could think is “the Republicans have no idea how to put on a show.” Empty room says it all.

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    • louloulaw2017 says:

      While watching this testimony, which was fascinating in its detail, it struck me that the Republicans don’t have any idea of how to put on a show to make political points.

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    • madeline says:

      This should indicate to POTUS that he should redact and release– as clearly Huber and Horowitz are not investigating. It would be interesting to know how long these guy took to do their investigation against the Horowitz time frame.

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      • lemmus1 says:

        …Meadows pointed out that the testimony given indicates the existence of a current on-going investigation into the Clinton Foundation by the DoJ/FBI …and that would explain why Huber didn’t show since he could not comment on an ongoing investigation

        …it was clumsily done and buried in all the other verbiage but it’s there if you listen

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        • smartyjones1 says:

          As stated above:

          Overlooked among other items as the two bounty hunters stated their belief the FBI in Little Rock is investigating the Clinton Foundation. One made the point they were given major league thanks from the FBI in Little Rock.

          Guess we’re all supposed to be cranky for Christmas. Not me. I’m looking forward to an ass-kicking being delivered to Mueller and his Russia Collusion Hoax team by Judge Emmet Sullivan in the Michael Flynn case.

          I’ve been waiting a long time for this and justice may be at hand.

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          • swampratterrier says:

            The Clintons did not make too many “friends” who are still living in Arkansas I guess.

            Sure there’s plenty there who’d love to get them off the world stage.

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  11. jeans2nd says:

    If all this “research” is correct, why has it taken so long to find anything wrong at the Clinton Fdn? Charles Ortel has been publicly doing research into the Clinton Fdn for years.

    How much of these two “investigator’s” material came from Charles Ortel, who has been reporting on the Clinton Fdn on youtube every week, and recently twice weekly?
    smh

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  12. zooamerica says:

    So these false whistleblowers aren’t really whistlblowers, they’re simply looking to cash in. Losers.

    They also serve to muddy the waters and make true whistleblowers look bad.

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    • lemmus1 says:

      …whistleblowers are by definition “insiders” blowing a whistle on those they work with/for

      …these two are professional financial bounty hunters who earn their money from a very lucrative IRS program that rewards substantially, anyone who reports a tax fraud/cheats to them …there is nothing wrong with what they do and they are evidently very good at it

      …remember that Al Capone was brought down by these same type of investigators, going after his tax cheating when the FBI couldn’t nail him for anything else

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      • JustaVerb says:

        Which begs the question how many other tax bounty hunters had/have their eyes on the CF prize.

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      • The obvious next step here is to haul the relevant IRS employees in front of the same committee and ask why they decided the financial bounty hunters have no case. If reputable accountants back up the financial bounty hunters’ case, then the only reason the financial bounty hunters have no case is because some IRS *sses trying to ingratiate themselves to the deep state say they have no case. I would like to know that.

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        • JustaVerb says:

          The IRS whistle-blower grunts are probably incentivized to pull in cash. They are conditioned to be sharks, always closing. Just like state government child support collectors. It took me 18 months once to get my local child support office to attend to an administrative matter that did not involve collection because everyone there was keyed in on their monthly collection numbers. So politically declining legitimate CF scrutiny would definitely make some waves.

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          • Alligator Gar says:

            The Feds force state IV-D agencies to collect a certain percentage of child support owed in their states. The agencies are largely funded by the feds through grants.

            It all goes into the fact that many parents to whom support is owed are on some form of welfare. The parent ordered to pay child support should be supporting the kids, not the taxpayer. The IV-D agencies are mandated to get that money back.

            Now you know why the IV-D agencies are so focused on enforcement.

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      • swampratterrier says:

        The tax law requires income tax be paid on all earnings from illegal activities such as bootlegging, kidnapping ransoms, bank robbery proceeds, pay for murder, bribes etc.

        Darn. Caught all the Democrats with that!!!!!!!

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  13. wholland50 says:

    Sara Carter is not so pessimistic. She confirms that there is an active investigation of CF underway.
    twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1073368764979269632

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    • sundance says:

      Rather than repeat her opinion of the hearing, why not just watch it.

      What came out from the hearing is not what Sara Carter is shaping or saying.

      Why? You decide.

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      • Niagara Frontier says:

        I watched 90% of the hearing live and walked away with a giant headache. Trying every which way to find a sunny side to this, is it likely that Huber (and whoever might be working on this for the DOJ in Arkansas) don’t need the work product of Messrs. Doyle and Moynihan to come to the same conclusion?

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        • Marc says:

          Occam’s Razor is useful here. If you have to contort logic to make it seem reasonable, it’s almost certainly untrue. Most likely, Huber is even less useful than Horowitz because he has prosecutorial power, but is unwilling to use it on this matter. Trump has only a handful of allies in DC and those in power at the DoJ aren’t among them.

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          • Niagara Frontier says:

            That’s true although I’m not sure it’s contorting logic to think Huber may not need nor want these materials. Perhaps he’s making a case based on his own work product in his way. It also eliminates the complications of remunerating these two men.

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            • Marc says:

              Why not reward these men if they’re the ones putting in the time, effort, and money to do the investigating? The reward is rightfully theirs if they can prove tax fraud by the CF.

              I’d like to think folks are working quietly behind the scenes to obtain some form of justice but that hasn’t been true so far. Sessions, Wray, Rosenstein, Mueller, etc. have done nothing to help POTUS in the muh Russia plot against him. They’ve only hurt him. Why would Huber be any different?

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              • Niagara Frontier says:

                I don’t know if Huber is any different or not. I was putting forth one simple explanation of why Huber might not want their work product, i.e. he doesn’t need it because he already has what he needs. Incorporating another investigator’s material into your own investigative work product, one that you are presenting as an indictment, could be risky and certainly would eat up more time.

                The remuneration was a smaller piece and I regret bringing it up. As far as I’m concerned, these two men could get the entire amount of back taxes owed just as long as the Clinton Foundation and its operations are exposed to the world in open court.

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      • need24give says:

        I watched it live, don’t know what Sara had to say. The first half was a waste, the second half, if one can see past the kabuki theatre, had some eye opening drops. Sue me, I’m a dreamer. ;~)

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      • daizeez says:

        Agree, don’t trust opinionated recaps from anyone. Find the videos and suffer thru it like some of us do. It’s worthwhile if for no other reason than to understand how all media spins. All of it.

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      • lemmus1 says:

        …with great respect Sundance, I got virtually the same out of it that Carter is saying …she puts more weight behind it than I would because its a second hand confirmation and a weak one at that, not a direct one …but the FBI almost never gives a direct confirmation …in fact, my first thought on hearing the guy say the FBI Agent told him it was an ongoing investigation …was that someone was going to be looking for another job

        …the only real point of disagreement with Carter is that she characterized a phone call as a meeting implying more than was really warranted

        …”Why? You Decide.” …no idea …waiting to be taken to the woodshed

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      • smartyjones1 says:

        Watched part but you and I differed on Twatter. I’ll not restate it again.

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  14. wholland50 says:

    Sara Carter is not so pessimistic. She confirms that there is an active investigation of CF underway.
    twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1073368764979269632

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    • Truenative says:

      Right…. And Hubers crew only got serious on Nov 30th? Interesting timing
      Inspector Clouseau

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      • AH_C, Boofer says:

        Only because Meadows is asking him about it. Otherwise, Huber’s really not interested in the tax evasion aspect of CF, bit other more serious crimes, like pay for play, trafficking etc.

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        • Marc says:

          With all due respect, that’s wishful thinking. Tax evasion at the level of multi billions of dollars is very serious, more so than pay-to-play. Huber is a dud.

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          • daizeez says:

            To be fair, how many prosecutors have the guts to go after people like the Clintons. We all know what they are capable of and thanks to Obama they have dirt on everyone. The only one so far has been our President. God bless him.

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          • lemmus1 says:

            …have to disagree there …the public “expects” tax evasion and it would likely not harm the Clintons directly …pay-to-play, if proven, is much, much more serious and could/would lead to an actual jail cell and loss of any assets involved …it would destroy them

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            • swampratterrier says:

              Tax avoidance is legal.
              Tax evasion is not.

              A properly run charity or foundation is tax avoidance.

              But an incorrectly run foundation used as the founders’ personal piggy bank is tax evasion and is illegal

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          • AH_C, Boofer says:

            Tax evasion is IRS jurisdiction. Huber is looking to nab coup ringleaders. Two different pools in the swamp.

            The pay to play was much larger. Two billion was just Billary’s cut. Oboobie got theirs, Soros/Buffet got his and on and on, all at taxpayers expense.

            Not one iota of value added product or service, just corruption by skimming thick slices of fat off the treasury with some charges on the debt card to boot. That is trillions more than the measly 2 billion and treasonous to boot.

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  15. For Eyes says:

    After two years, there is virtually no progress in prosecuting clearly documented crimes by Dems. Meanwhile, the risk of impeachment has grown considerably.

    Not only is the Swamp not being drained, the Swamp is winning. It is marching ahead with total disregard of the law, and could care less about sunlight or leverage. The “soft” coup is actually pretty firm.

    That is a painful thing to say.

    Something serious has to happen soon to break down the box (as in boxed in). It may be too late already.

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  16. Bethany Beach says:

    If this issue proceeds to anything of consequence I will be genuinely and pleasantly surprised. All the IRS and any other aligned federal agent or agency must do is stall until January and this whole thing comes to a screeching halt. Losing the House was devastating, in this and many other similar law breaking activities. We may call ourselves a great nation, but it is impossible to break laws by design and with impunity and be great. We are adrift. The stench of us overwhelming.

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  17. John Doe says:

    Charles P. Rettig (born November 18, 1956) is a tax controversy specialist[3][4] and Commissioner of Internal Revenue. On September 12, 2018, the United States Senate confirmed Rettig’s nomination to be IRS commissioner for the term expiring November 12, 2022. Rettig was sworn in on October 1, 2018.

    What does anybody know about him? He’s from California, which never bodes well. (Apologies to Trump supporters who live there.)

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  18. mj_inOC says:

    Wow!
    President Trump was correct stating he needs Mark Meadows to stay just where he is on Capitol Hill! He will flush out this criminal Clinton Foundation and their $400 million [at least, to over $2 Billion] of ill-gotten cash, pay-to-play, quid pro quo.

    Thank you, sundance, and Congressman Meadows.
    Prayers all around…

    ´God permits what He hates, to accomplish that which He loves,´ [from Joni’s daily devotional on Wednesday].

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  19. Unsk says:

    I agree this hearing was not a nothing burger. At least this hearing showed how the Clintons were violating the law.
    But the question still comes down to among others what is AG Whitaker doing? Who is making these decisions at the IRS and DOJ? Why is Whitaker allowing Leftist subordinates to run the show? Whitaker has been a huge disappointment so far. He has done nothing to rein in the abuses and has allowed Leftist political considerations to rule the day instead applying the Law fairly.
    The Dems will surely run out the clock on this House investigation of the Clinton Foundation. Will the Senate pick up the baton and run with it? Or will the Senate GOP let the issue die?

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    • WES says:

      Unsk: When I was kid Grandma gave me the job of burying the dog’s dead ground hogs! I quickly learned you needed to bury the dead ground hogs at least 12 inches deep or the dog would sniff it out and dig it up! The IRS and the DoJ are trying to bury the Clinton foundation but Meadows keep digging it up!

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “bury the dead ground hogs at least 12 inches deep or the dog would sniff it out and dig it up!”

        Some concrete blocks and boards (or an old piece of chain link fence) also helps.

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        • WES says:

          Deploreable: Hey it wasn’t a total waste of effort on my part! The deeper and bigger I dug the hole the more worms I found! More worms meant more Brook trout! You see there was a method to Grandma’s madness!

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          • WES says:

            And speaking of ground hogs these days you don’t see them anymore because of the presence of coyotes everywhere!

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            • ArkansasLiving says:

              The Good folks are trying to weed out the corruption in the agencies. The only way to do that is to see whom inside them is obstructing the investigations. If IRS in Atlanta was not following up on the evidentiary documentation they received from these financial investigators that would suggest they are corrupt. There is almost a 100% guarantee that whistle blowers do exist… and the proof/ documents are already available. My guess is some of the biggest donors have turned on the foundation…. after receiving quid quo pro in the past. Some key points are…. it is possible the LV issue while MBS was in Vegas is part of it. Hillary does not like MBS… and he holds the keys to part of their past corruption. He would have access to documents showing if they were selling access to the govt’ via the foundation.l Maybe HRC is tied into that because she thinks the Saudi’s have turned on her. Now note where SC is trying to go…. and how the Democrats in committees are trying to belittle the Saudis every chance they get. This is all interconnected…. HRC and Kerry in India Scheming and planning is connected… it is not all just by chance.

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          • Deplorable_Infidel says:

            “More worms meant more Brook trout!”

            Yes, worms are good! I get 12″-36″ rainbow trout and salmon out behind the house here, but only in spring and autumn.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “Why is Whitaker allowing Leftist subordinates to run the show?”

      Just sit back and “trust the plan” -/s

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    • Vor Daj says:

      ” Why is Whitaker allowing Leftist subordinates to run the show? “

      I guess he wants to Be Like Jeff.

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    • daizeez says:

      Whitaker has been in charge for what, a month? And he knows he will only be at that position for another month or so. We already knew the Clintons were violating the law. The Dems don’t have to run out the clock. The House Republicans already did.

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  20. Vor Daj says:

    What a Mess – The Congressional Hearing With Clinton Foundation Investigators…”

    I think William Shakespeare had something to say about these Congressional Hearings.

    To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
    Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
    To the last syllable of recorded time;
    And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
    The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!

    Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
    And then is heard no more. It is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.

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  21. daizeez says:

    I really don’t care how ugly the hearing looked but we did learn a few things. There is an investigation. Meadows invites them all and waits until the last 2 weeks of having the majority. Then knowing the content ahead of time, he acts all pissed off. I don’t know what Meadows’ game is but I’m glad our President isn’t picking him as CoS.

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  22. Franklin says:

    The House and Senate should not be used for criminal investigation. They are misinterpreting the Constitution. The purpose of Congressional hearings is to gather information on proposed legislation.

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    • trapper says:

      YES!!!! Thank you!

      Meanwhile, the agencies who are suppose to be doing criminal investigations, DOJ and FBI, seem to be too busy conducting political inquisitions into PEOPLE instead of crimes. FUBAR. All of it.

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    • Ralph Drury says:

      Thank you for the most coherent comment I have seen posted anywhere. (Not including my own, of course. )

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    • AH_C, Boofer says:

      Exactly. Anything else is posturing, especially in the age of video.

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    • daizeez says:

      Yep. They don’t care about legislation anymore. They are financially motivated to get on committees.

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    • NO, they are subverting the constitution on behalf of their international bankster “masters”. Meadows has exposed himself.

      I stop by here every day, and in the comments stillread all about the “democrat” this and that, the “dems” did this, the “dems” are evil… etc… ad nauseam.

      UNIPARTY.

      For those of you who want to sell President Trump short, go ahead. Your opinion of his performance up to this point will have no bearing on the end results, and you’ll all slap yourselves on the back for having voted for him someday. But you will know where you stood in December of 2018 too… yep. 😀

      But, hey… you could at least thank him for putting an end to any hopes of a krooked killery PRESIDENCY! Where would be now?

      UNIPARTY.

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      • ArkansasLiving says:

        Let me know when you decide to add something worthwhile.

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        • Oh sure… I’ll send you a PM when I get on the bash Trump wagon, or the “it’s the dems, it’s the dems” repetitive scat.

          That appears to be what’s entertaining the “crowd” these days.

          Be sure to come back with more of your half-witted commentary, you’re a gas!

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          • ArkansasLiving says:

            If you want to join the gossip pages go to the conspiracy tabloid websites…. your commentary Sucks.

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            • And there you go again, more negative bullsh!t from a guy who has nothing better to do than blather about his perceived negative aspects of the day.

              I follow President Trump, you should try it. It’s quite a bit more informative than any other source pertaining to what he is doing.

              UNIPARTY isn’t “gossip” nor “conspiracy” genius, it’s fact. You must be new here. Spread your hate & Eeyore crap elsewhere & if you don’t like my comments don’t read them.

              Meh.

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  23. RJones says:

    My God. What an absolute joke. That guy was a candidate to be Trump’s COS? What idiot made that recommendation? This clown made us all look like fools, by association.

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  24. Uncle Max says:

    I’m stunned by your skepticism Sd. Well, not stunned really, .. ( insert Hank Kimball joke here )..
    I watched the show today live on the YouTube. I don’t understand Meadows losing his mind and getting angry EXCEPT that, everyone in that room know the committee changes hands to Donk control in 8 weeks and NOTHING that was presented today would lead to anything.

    The Donks are in complete cover-up mode. At least the two gentlemen were savy enough to withhold their work. If Meadows wants it, he can get it from the IRS or the FBI and he knows it…. and it really doesn’t matter because of the Donks taking control.

    The takeaway for me is: There are still ample protectors within the Government for the Clintons that are and have been, covering up for them and their foundation. At the IRS they are pretending not to be interested in blatant fraud. At the FBI, same. IG? He’s busy and evidently has decided better to get along than be ” the guy” that bucked the system and tried to ruin everybody’s lives in DC who have been complicit in covering for the Clintons’ for over 10 years.

    Why the side-eye SD? This “may” lead to something. The hearing was a joke. Even Fitton didn’t come off as well as I thought he would.. Maybe this was a way to get some sunlight onto this stuff. Maybe something will come of it, but probably nothing will. Bill and Hillary are untouchable because so many people are actively involved in protecting them. If the knives start to fall, … IDK… it would be a bloodbath in DC.

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  25. trapper says:

    We need to get our terms straight. Tax AVOIDANCE is legal. It is arranging your affairs in a lawful way to minimize the amount of tax you are required to pay. Taking a valid deduction is tax avoidance. Claiming your minor children as dependents is tax avoidance. Buying nontaxable bonds to not pay tax on their interest payments is tax avoidance. Tax EVASION is the crime. Tax evasion is doing something improper and not paying tax you are legally required to pay. Claiming phony deductions, or not reporting all you income, is tax evasion.

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  26. Kalbo says:

    SD has a good descriptor for these hearings, goofy.

    Have to agree with Moynihan and Doyle. I wouldn’t be excited to share professional research with Congress.

    Congress has an obvious political agenda. Congress leaks information like a sieve.

    Congressional investigations are IMHO, a joke. A criminal referral by Congress is, well not intimidating for schmucks like Clinton Crime Family / Foundation. Nothing indication the DOJ or FBI cares about Congressional criminal referrals.

    Sadly, Congressional committees can bully the hell out of and intimidate normal folks, including Moyinhan and Doyle.

    Not impressed with Meadows, Norton or any of these folks. NONE of them care about Justice.

    My faith remains steadfastly with President Trump.

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  27. AH_C, Boofer says:

    Meh. It’s Meadows’ show. He’s always struck me as a little off with regards to conservativism. Definitely on our team, no diubt, but there’s that bluedog-ness about him that I wouldn’t want in a party leader.

    Huber was right not to show up side by side with the bounty hunters. Save it for another time.

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    • Kalbo says:

      Nothing wrong with the “bounty hunters”. I absolutely appreciate their efforts. Wish them great success.

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      • AH_C, Boofer says:

        Oh, I’m not knocking it. Hopefully they inspire others to drop a dime on their local tax cheats and get paid for it.

        Bounty hunters has been given short shrift in favor of ever larger law enforcement and the related tax burden on us. At least bounty hunters are constitutionally enumerated along with marshals unlike most ABCs.

        Think about it, back in the day, a cowboy would earn a buck a day riding herd, but nabbing a wanted man could net you 200, 300 or even a cool thou. Let that sink in, a year’s pay on average for one wanted man.

        Instead, sheeple would rather have professional unionized sheepdogs watching over them. And when sheepdogs get bored, they bully the sheep. And the taxman, that we fought a rebellion to get rid of a 1/2% tax, is back and sucking 10, 20, 30% and more from us.

        Our government has run amuck across all sectors and I would rather wait until a large majority of Americans are mad enough to really do something about it than to drop the hammer too soon and only settle for cosmetic changes.

        MAGA

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      • madeline says:

        Agree Kalbo, it would seem they and Fitton are the only ones doing something.

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      There are no teams. Just the illusion of such.

      And then there is VSGPOTUS.

      He just makes all of DC look bad.

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  28. Martin says:

    If there is profit to be made from wrongdoing, a way will be found, regardless of ideology.

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  29. Nessie509 says:

    Well. One sure thing is Democrats will have just as much difficulty presenting public hearings next year, as Republicans had today. Public hearings are just staged events design to highlight issues.
    Congress cannot indict anyone. Cannot solve any crimes. Still, some voters think Congress can change minds. Trouble is, only hardened partisans tune in to watch. Minds don’t change. Full Stop!
    The current DOJ doesn’t prosecute Democrats. So, Huber hasn’t even touched the Clinton Foundation Scandal.
    This is one more hearing in the continuing saga of hopeless hype that the Clintons will get locked up. Sorry. No orange jumpsuits for the Clintons for now.

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  30. Dutchman says:

    Not impressed with Meadows, at all, nor his ‘good friend’, seated to his right.

    How stupid do you have to be to understand these guys turn the documents over to agencies, in order to collect rewards.

    IF Congress had the authority to collect fines, and share a percentage, than these guys might give Congress the documents. Otherwise, pound sand, Meadows.

    I doubt VERY seriously, DJT would want this idiot as his C o S.

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  31. czarowniczy says:

    Might this have been a neatly orchestrated Deep State cleansing of the Clinton Foundation and its crew? “Oh look, people, Congress including a squad of deer red Republicans found no dirt after digging waaaaay into the Foundation’s doings and records.”

    Any further attempts to impugn the Foundation would be met by Rats as an attempt by disgruntled reactionaries to waste time and money revisiting an issue already dealt with by their own Party.

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    • Kalbo says:

      CFF gets away again. IRS dismissed Moynihan and Doyle work. Huber and FBI can reference IRS dismissal.

      The IRS letter allowing folks to refile with new information is simply “boiler plate” crap they put in every letter. Meaningless.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      I don’t trust any of them, it seems to be all uniparty all the time.
      Republican main street partnership, The Tuesday Group, The House Freedom Caucus, and all the rest appear to be dems in disguise.

      There’s an awful lot of people protecting the Clinton crime family.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        If you are a career Republican politician and you see a potential blue wave on the horizon are you going to let the wave drown you or surf it?
        Most of these pols haven’t stolen enough to live the life they want to and have limited skill sets. Even those who have skills have a helluva time getting used to working for a living. For them cowardice is the better part of valor.

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  32. AccountabilityPlease says:

    If the two financial investigators gave the info to John Solomon, who independently evaluated it and contacted Mark Meadows, how does the committee not have the documents?

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  33. stablesort says:

    Did Meadows actually think he had a chance as White House Chief of Staff? There he sits, staring at the empty seat across from him with Huber’s name on it and talking to a couple private investigators who tell him that they don’t think much of what he does.

    Jeff Sessions’ boy, Huber, apparently agrees with the MDA investigators; I wonder if Huber even called to say he wouldn’t make it to this important meeting. Well, in eighteen days, Meadows’ committee won’t have much use for him either.

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    • AH_C, Boofer says:

      It was announced yesterday that he wouldn’t show.

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    • daizeez says:

      The DOJ prevented Huber from testifying. They knew he wasn’t coming Wednesday. Since the two men that testified said Huber’s office requested info 3 times I am pretty certain they will say he could not comment on an ongoing investigation, They don’t even like to say that, because they are then confirming there IS an investigation, so they prefer not to show up at all.

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  34. ezpz2 says:

    Thank you, Sundance, for explaining this. I heard bits and pieces of this high drama while driving, and was totally confused.
    Couldn’t differentiate the good guys (such that they are) from the bad guys.

    Hearing Meadows shout at the ‘whistleblowers’ completely threw me, since I thought they would all be the so called ‘good guys’

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  35. xcontra says:

    Sean “Tick Tock” Hannity can jump in the lak. I am sick of his tick tock gimmick: overused and pointless.

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    • daizeez says:

      I don’t like Hannity but President Trump does and he apparently lets information out occasionally to his favorites at FOX

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    • Tazio Nuvolari says:

      Hannity is the prime time equivalent of Q. Controlled opposition to keep us thinking something is going to happen all the while they are in the process of removing our President.

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      • Jake says:

        You should call P Trump and tell him how dumb he is for liking Hannity. You go gurl.

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        • Tazio Nuvolari says:

          President Trump said he likes Chuck Schumer too. POTUS knows how to handle swamp snakes and also that you have to sidle up to them sometimes. You keep right on lapping up Hannity’s “tick tock” though.

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        • Shhhhhhhhhhh… Jake, don’t disturb them. Eeyores are busy eeyoring and concerning.

          They don’t like to be disturbed.

          FFS what a thread. What in the world is going on here… yep, rhetorical!

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          • ArkansasLiving says:

            Uniparty…..FFS what a libtard.

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            • You are SO special! Not in the good kind of way, but oh well.

              Yes, UniParty. Had you been here for more than a few days, you would recognize the term having seen SD write about it quite often. And it’s been UniParty for 105 years. Any researcher knows this… hmm.

              Ignorance is easily corrected, but hateful… not so much.

              Have a nice day!

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  36. ezpz2 says:

    Thank you, Sundance, for explaining this. I heard bits and pieces of this high drama while driving, and was totally confused.
    Couldn’t differentiate the good guys (such that they are) from the bad guys.

    Hearing Meadows shout at the ‘whistleblowers’ completely threw me, since I thought they would all be the so called ‘good guys’.
    😯

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  37. teeheeman says:

    Arggggg Can you say “Cluster Fark?”

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  38. evergreen says:

    Cool. Meadows gets introduced to his own irrelevance. These guys were cool customers. Fitton was having a ball, too.

    If Meadows wants the info, it’s within his oversight charter to get it by doing his job. Badgering these guys was poor form. Also, it demonstrates that smart money does not trust congressional “integrity” anymore–if it ever did.

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    • AH_C, Boofer says:

      That’s the lingering sense I have of him, that he has his own ideas and a plan, if only we’d follow him. Problem is we didn’t elect him, we elected Trump.

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    • WSB says:

      These guys are quite the cool customers.

      What was not said in that clip is the Charles Ortel research that seems to be clear on one item. The Clinton Foundation was given a 501C3 by Lois Lerner.

      The designation was supposedly only given for one presidential library with donations only coming from WITHIN Arkansas.

      Think about that.

      Lois Lerner allowed this 501C3 to metastasize into an international BLOB. EVERY donation outside of that original designation is illegal. The Clintons never amended their 501C3. And Lois allowed that to occur.

      These two men, considering the billions surrounding the CF and CGI, would be entitled to millions.

      All should go back to pay our debts off, but I do not begrudge these two investigators anything.

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      • The WHOLE effing world knows all about klinton kash… but doing something about it doesn’t fit the UNIPARTY plan, nor the individual plans of its players. Something about wanting to stay alive, be extremely wealthy… etc. comes to mind.

        Scum. The lot of them.

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        • WSB says:

          THC… I truly believe we will be witnessing a LE awakening. Maybe the military tribunals…maybe something else.

          Prayers for all of us to be heard.

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          • YES WSB… we will. Maybe both and or combinations of many things. I voted for President Trump because I’ve studied him, and he is actually the VSG we all occasionally have pointed out.

            Then there is the Pendulum. It ALWAYS swings back, and Mother Nature is fond of making corrections herself… so… my glass if half full and I am obviously not quite “fitting in” here anymore with all the new names.

            So be it. I will not be bombarded with snark, hateful comments and a total lack of common sense. So, I’ll just take another little break and read yours and few others comments for a while! 😉

            You rawk!

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            • WSB says:

              I thank you for the good words and much appreciate your position. The rather odd shift in commenters lately is disconcerting.

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              • G. Combs says:

                The rather odd shift in commenters lately is disconcerting.

                Yes it is.

                None of us has a monopoly on truth/facts. That is why I almost always try to back up my observations with URLs. However that does not keep some from only expressing OPINION and never back those opinions up.

                It leads to a whole heck of a lot of Disinfo littering the place of late since often those opinions are planted by the Fake News and their acolates.

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  39. Tazio Nuvolari says:

    So, a nothingburger. I’m sick and tired of nothingburgers. Can’t we get a T-bone just once?

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  40. NOTHING Will happen folks..
    We have to realize the..
    there are 2 sets of rules..
    One for US..
    One for them..
    We are NOT in that Big Club..

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    • Let me revise this, I **HOPE** that something happens, though I’ve got my doubts..

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    • trialbytruth says:

      Here’s what is missing from your surrender

      We are.moving threw a process of awakening.

      We start with a verily universal position that all politicians are self.serving and elitist

      We move.to most politicians are self dealing

      Then most politicians are crooks

      Now we as a nation are.generally aware.most politicians are better ng protected in their criminal.endeavors by state actors.

      We as a nation are now seeing this play out recklessly by those who believe.they are untouchable.

      The next thing we as a nation will see is a depth of shared evil and depravity that we did not think possible.

      That is the step that must happen to get the endless number of bureacratic go alongers that just didnt want to spoil their gig to reevaluate their defense. We all expected to see all the uncorrupted souls of the bueracacies to be coming forward by now, that is not happening. Like the German soldiers who did the biddings of their commanders there original defense was going to be they were ordered to do so. As the depth of the depravity and treason comes.out the useful idiots will be looking for new ways to exit the steaming pile of excrement.

      The cold anger of the long Informed will.pale.with the uglyness of the masses hatred as truth continues to be revealed. There will be no place.to hide the purge will.be unprecedented and fully supported by the masses.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Yes, that is why I think President Trump’s Human Trafficking E.O. is so key along with the Military Tribunals EO. (In my opinion)

        Never forget Weiner’s laptop.
        Erik Prince broadcast what NYPD found on the Weiner Laptop in 2016.
        http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/

        AG Lynch stepped in and threatened the NYPD.

        Mueller Snags Blackwater Founder Erik Prince’s Phones, Computer
        ….
        Meanwhile DURING TRANSITION President-Elect names Rudy Guliani, beloved of the NYPD, Cyber Czar.

        The leftys make fun of his computer chops and then forget him as he goes silent for months.

        Flynn accolate Cohen-Watnick is fired and then becomes national security adviser to AG Sessions.
        >>>>>

        Let’s see what happens this spring.

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        • trialbytruth says:

          Yep in the spring we get new starts. I really don’t expect anything that needs public involvement will happen during the holidays.

          It may come earlier then the spring. There are millions more coach potatoes in Jan ,Feb,Mar then any other times.

          In my dream the reveal takes place in winter and the public demand for resolution begins in the warm weather when public gathering is easier.

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  41. kltk1 says:

    Gee, kinda makes the case for not hyping, or should I say over-hyping only to have it turn up nothing substantive. Where have we seen this before?

    DC exists to protect DC. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    • Franklin says:

      Bounty Hunter – damn straight!
      The United States has a False Claims Act which allows a private person rather than the government, to file a lawsuit on behalf of the United States. This is how a lot of the Welfare and Medicare fraud is uncovered. These cases are legally know as ‘Qui Tam’ and are often sealed

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      • Pale rider says:

        That’s the difference in all the other dog and pony shows. And,,,, Congress knows it. I love that part “we gave it to departments that can prosecute.” Not you.

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  42. candyman says:

    These guys know what they have, now that they played well on stage they will be a vocal pain in the ass and get more face time. I don’t sense they are going away.The tobacco guys did the same thing.

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  43. spoogels says:

    HUGE! Clinton Foundation Witnesses Say Huber Team LOST THEIR Evidence — Had to Send It THREE TIMES — Only Interested Cuz of Today’s Hearing (VIDEO)

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/huge-clinton-foundation-witnesses-say-huber-team-lost-their-evidence-had-to-send-it-three-times-only-interested-cuz-of-todays-hearing-video/

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    • disgustedwithjulison says:

      This might be the biggest revelation of the day today….the Huber team intentionally losing evidence….and then not showing up for the hearing where they would be asked how in the hell they lost evidence.

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  44. MAJA says:

    After all these years of shirking their responsibility, passing the buck, posturing for the public while making secret deals with their buddies across the aisle, not passing a budget in almost a decade, allowing the great pretender to do the legislative job with EOs, meadows acts angry and shocked that the committee members are considered not worthy of having their evidence.

    These house and Senate yahoos have rendered themselves impotent by not performing their constitutional duty, accepting the repudiation of congress’ oversight authority by the agencies (with impunity) and allowing all that lying under oath without consequences. Its just PDJT and the Deplorables fighting the fight.

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  45. mtk says:

    What is noted…
    Where is the army of lawyers behind Mr. Doyle and Mr. Monynihan?

    Second, is there a connection between the raid on whistleblower Cohen and MDA Analytics?

    Third, how much you want to bet the reason the documents that this Oversight Committee wants turned over to them are not being turned over is because they contain some of those bleach bit communitications of HRC.

    Fourth, if this video does not convience that the whole weight of the US Federal Govt is aligned to bury the evidence then what will.

    Fifth, if these guys are in it for a payday, nothing would be easier to make them go away faster than cutting them a check and the government seal the settlement.

    Sixth, the disconnect between this Oversight Committee’s stated ability to refer ‘matters’ and actually command a referral is laughable at best when the game being played of having absolutely no desire to do so. All they had to do is acknowlege the claim and motion a hearing on the evidence they supplied to IRS, OIG and FBI.

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    • mtk says:

      On observation number 6… Would not that be like Congressional Oversight actually doing its job for a change.

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    • jackphatz says:

      I think Meadows handled this as well as possible considering there was nothing material to review. However he was given information he should not refuse to at least look at, we will know this too. I don’t blame these guys for not handing over the thumb drive either. No one can come away from this video feeling good about Congress’s desire to get to the truth.

      I find it troubling that Huber’s party apparently received this info two other times. It’s even more telling that they did not respond until these two guys were to testify to Congress. And WHO contacted them to come to DC?

      I hope Moynihan and Doyle hit the talk shows now. Dobb’s, that means you!!

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    • Gosh, President Trump should just TELL US ALL what’s going on behind the “real” scenes in HIS world… then we could all feel great knowing what’s in store!!!

      Surely the deep state scum and krooked killery wouldn’t catch wind of it…

      Just major /s

      Sue me. The negatives here are beginning to outweigh the common sense that once prevailed in these threads.

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      • Alligator Gar says:

        Negative is not the opposite of common sense. Anyone can see that is a false equivalency.

        Given the lack of prosecutorial action on McCabe et al., who we know were referred for prosecution long ago, one would not be irrational to be a bit negative. Mulehead has done how many prosecutions and our side can’t even handle one against a known bad actor?

        Unfounded optimism is irrational in the face of current facts.

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        • No one needs “Q” or any other entity to read President Trump’s Executive Orders, and the man surrounded himself with Military Personnel for a reason. He’s been mulling over what he would do if he were ever President for decades and he actually is a genius strategist.

          And now he is President. Bigly.

          When focused on negativity, one rarely sees the pieces of the greater picture coming together. I’ll be glad for you that are attacking me now, when you are finally getting to see the action(s) that we all long for go down. And they will go down.

          I trust Trump, which apparently makes me a “PITA jerk”, right? lmao

          😀

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  46. chojun says:

    Okay here’s my final take on this. A lot of you know that I have a neighbor who works for Huber and has given me some anecdotes/insight into what’s going on (but ultimately not a whole lot and no specifics).

    I think this hearing was a last-ditch, ultimately failed, attempt at getting some sunlight on the Clinton Foundation investigation. Huber was called to testify but ultimately did not do so because of DOJ policy of not commenting on ongoing investigations. Okay – so that’s no surprise that he didn’t show up. The IRS guy not showing up due to a family thing is weird but whatever. Go figure.

    Considering Meadows’ line of questioning of the whistleblowers, it’s clear to me that Meadows had hoped to line the four of them up together and be able to cross-question them and ask Huber/IRS guy why nothing appears to be coming out of Huber’s investigation, especially given that the bounty hunters have repeatedly given inculpatory information to the prosecutor running the primary investigation but ultimately nothing comes of it. Of course, the DOJ was never going to make Huber available to answer THAT question. Period.

    Interestingly today, we found out that the Clinton Foundation may be in violation of FARA laws. This means that they’ve been involved in foreign lobbying – which rightly by Sundance has been noted that this very fact means that the Clinton Foundation investigation may have been scooped up in Mueller’s “Election interference” investigation.

    If this is true, then Justice in this matter is dead. D-E-A-D. Mueller is going to perma-investigate everything surrounding all of this kind of stuff until Donald Trump is out of office (either removed or term expired).

    The very first discussion I had with my neighbor, he slipped that Huber is “working with Mueller”. He quickly corrected himself and has since denied that when I asked again. Read into that what you will.

    But more ominously, this week out of the blue he sent me a link to an article about how Q is a bonkers, insane theory. I’ve never brought up Q with him or anything. He has since refused to answer any texts I’ve sent.

    If we are going to see justice in this matter – in SpyGate, Clinton Foundation, anything – then we have to get pissed off. We have to face the fact that there may be no Q “plan” (if you believed in that or not in the first place). The truth will set us free. Take Q’s advice and search for the truth and objective reality.

    There are very few options left. Trump must declassify EVERYTHING and fire Rosenstein and Mueller. Impeachment be damned.

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  47. chojun says:

    Hey Ad Rem, I think my comment is in the bin – thanks!

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  48. There seems to be a lot of underwhelming conclusions to all these things we’ve been avidly following for months.

    Time to turn off the lights and lock the door? Media Bias Factcheck’s gonna be tipping the CTH into the pseudo-conspiracy site category soon.

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  49. And Q? Everyday that becomes a bigger joke, doesn’t it?

    When’s Sessions and Huber and that new, big, beefcake acting Attorney General gonna pull off their Napoleon Dynamite get ups and save us from everything?

    Apparently R. Rosenstein is rockin’ it with POTUS these days.

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