Occam’s Razor: Michael Flynn…

There is a great deal of suspicion and analysis surrounding the latest developments in the Mueller case, or lack thereof, against Michael Flynn.   Consider this a summary addendum to the CTH initial review.  This is the Occam’s Razor that explains some contradictions.

We cannot view these actions through the transactional prism of modern judicial proceedings as they relate to you and me. These are political struggles taking place inside the venue of the legal system. The players use the legal system to game out the optics and narrative of political battles for ideological wins and losses.

After the November 8th, 2016, election everyone within the Obama network who was associated with the surveillance operation against the Trump campaign was at risk. This is the impetus for the “Muh Russia” conspiracy narrative that was used as a mitigating shield. Within a few weeks ODNI James Clapper and CIA Director John Brennan began pushing the Russia election interference narrative in the media.

NSA Director Mike Rogers went to Trump tower on November 18th, 2016, and essentially informed the principals within the campaign they were under some forms of surveillance.

By mid-December the Obama administration was deploying a full-court-press using their media allies to promote the Russia conspiracy.  However, despite their public proclamations Clapper and Brennan were refusing to give any specifics to congress.

The hard narrative was that Russia interfered. That was the specific push from within the Obama intelligence apparatus writ large.  All IC officials, sans Mike Rogers (NSA)  had a self-interest in pushing this narrative; after all, it was the defensive mechanism to justify their illegal spying operation throughout 2016.  This was their insurance policy.

The media was battering the Trump transition team every hour of every day with questions about the Russia Narrative; and fertilizing the seeds of a collusion conspiracy.

On December 29, 2016, the IC produced, and rushed to completion, a ridiculous document to support the false-premise.  This was called the Joint Analysis Report which claimed to outline the details of Russia’s involvement hacking into targeted political data base or computer systems during the election.  We were introduced to “Grizzley Steepe” and a goofy claim of Russian hackers.

On the same day (12/29/16) Obama announced a series of sanctions against Russians who were located in Maryland.  This was Obama’s carefully constructed response to provide additional validity to the Joint Analysis Report.  After fueling the Russia conspiracy for several weeks, Obama knew this action would initiate a response from both Russia and the incoming Trump administration.

On the day the JAR was released and Obama made the announcement, President-elect Donald Trump and some of his key members were in Mar-a-Lago, Florida.  Incoming National Security Adviser Mike Flynn was on vacation in the Dominican Republic. As expected the Obama action spurred calls between Russian emissary Kislyak and Flynn.

The Obama IC were monitoring Kislyak communications and waiting for the contact.  They recorded, and later transcribed the conversation.

The media continued to follow the lead from the Obama White House and Intelligence Apparatus (writ large) and fuel the narrative that any contact with the Russians was proof of collusion of some sort.   In addition the communications team of the White House, DOJ, FBI and aggregate IC began pushing a narrative surrounding the obscure Logan Act.

The ridiculous Logan Act promotion was targeted to infer that any action taken by the Trump campaign prior to taking office was interference with the political Obama Russia action and would be evidence of collusion; that was the plan.  DOJ Deputy AG Sally Yates was in charge of pushing the Logan Act narrative to the media.

The first two weeks of January 2017 was now a merging of two necessary narratives. (1) Russian interference; and (2) the Logan Act; deployed against any entity who would counter the Russia narrative story.   The media were running this dual narrative 24/7 against the incoming Trump officials; demanding repeated answers to questions that were framed around this story-line.

On January 3rd, 2017, the new congressional year began.  SSCI Vice-Chair Dianne Feinstein abdicated her position within the Gang-of-Eight, and turned over the reigns to Senator Mark Warner.  Warner was now the vice-chair of the SSCI; and a Go8 member.

With the Flynn Dec. 29, 2016, transcript in hand the DOJ/FBI began aiding the Logan Act narrative with Obama intelligence officials supporting the Russia Conspiracy claims and decrying anyone who would interfere or counter the official U.S. position.

On January 14th, 2017, the content of the communication between Flynn and Kislyak was leaked to the Washington Post by an unknown entity; likely the leak came from the FBI’s counterintelligence operation and/or the DOJ national security division – the same units previously carrying out the spying operation.

The FBI CoIntel group (Strzok, McCabe etc.), and the DOJ-NSD group (Yates, Carlin, McCord etc.) were the largest stakeholders in the execution of the insurance policy phase because they were the epicenter of spygate.

The leak of the Flynn conversation with Kislyak was critical because the DOJ/FBI were formulating a political case.  This was not about legality per se’, this effort was about establishing the framework for an investigation, based on a false premise, that would protect the DOJ and FBI.  The investigation they needed was the Mueller special counsel to protect them.

The leak led to Vice-President Mike Pence being hammered on January 15th, 2017, during a CBS Face the Nation interview about Trump campaign officials in contact with Russians.  Pence was exceptionally unprepared to answer the questions and allowed the media to blend questions about campaign contacts with necessary transition team contacts.

Sunday January 15th, 2017 – VP-elect Mike Pence appears on Face The Nation. [Transcript Here]

JOHN DICKERSON: But there’s a distinction between that feeling about the press and legitimate inquiry, as you say, that the Senate Intelligence Committee is doing. Just to button up one question, did any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election?

MIKE PENCE: Of course not. And I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy. (link)

*NOTE* Notice the incoming administration was under a false-narrative siege created by the media.  At the time (early Jan, 2017) ‘any contact’ with Russians was evidence of meddling/election-collusion with Russians.  VP-elect Mike Pence poorly answered the question from Dickerson from a very defensive position.

That toxic media environment and Mike Pence speaking poorly during a Face The Nation interview was the issue. Once Vice-President Mike Pence made the statement that Flynn had no contact with anyone from Russia etc. any contradictory statement from Flynn would make Pence appear compromised; so Flynn had to stick to Pence’s false point without clarification.  Flynn was interviewed by the FBI on January 24th, nine days after Pence made his comments.

Tuesday January 24th – Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn was interviewed at the WH by the FBI.

During this ambush interview, disguised as a meeting, FBI Agent Peter Strzok and FBI Agent Joe Pientka were contrasting Vice-President-elect Pence’s statements to CBS against the known action of Mike Flynn.  [Flynn has three options: either (1) Flynn contradicts Pence, or (2) he tells a lie; or (3) Flynn explains Pence misspoke, those were his options.]

How Flynn responded to the line of inquiry and explained/reconciled the difference between Pence’s statement on Jan 15th, and what actually took place, is why the FBI ended up with the conclusion that Flynn wasn’t lying.

I have long believed it is within this dynamic where the FD-302 reports, written by Strzok and Pientka, then became the subject of political manipulation by Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe.

Stay with me and think about this carefully.

The FBI knew the content of the Flynn call with Sergey Kislyak because they were listening in.  The FBI were intercepting those communications.  So when Pence said no-one had any contact on January 15th, the FBI crew IMMEDIATELY knew they had a bombshell issue to exploit.

We see the evidence of the FBI knowing they had an issue to exploit, and being very nervous about doing it, in the messages between Lisa Page and FBI Agent Peter Strzok who would end up doing the questioning of Flynn.

The day before the Flynn interview:

January 23, 2017, the day before the Flynn interview, Lisa Page says: “I can feel my heart beating harder, I’m so stressed about all the ways THIS has the potential to go fully off the rails.” Weird!

♦Strzok replies: “I know. I just talked with John, we’re getting together as soon as I get in to finish that write up for Andy (MCCABE) this morning.” Strzok agrees with Page about being stressed that “THIS” could go off the rails… (Strzok’s meeting w Flynn the next day)

Why would Page & Strzok be stressed about “THIS” potentially going off the rails?  The answer is simple: they knew the content of the phone call between Mike Flynn and Sergey Kislyak because they were listening in, and they were about to exploit the Pence statement to CBS.  That’s why they were so nervous.  They were planning and plotting with Andrew McCabe about how they were going to exploit the phone-tap.

I’m not convinced that Flynn lied.  There’s a good possibility Flynn was honest but his honesty contradicted Pence’s national statement on CBS; and he likely tried to dance through a needle without being overly critical of VP-elect Pence misspeaking.   Remember, the alternative, if Flynn is brutally honest, is for the media to run with a narrative about Vice-President Pence is now a national liar in the media.

That’s why the issue of how the FBI interviewers write the 302 summary of the interview becomes such an important facet.   We see that dynamic again playing out in the messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok with Andrew McCabe providing the guidance.

February 14th, 2017, text messages – here is a note about the FBI reports filed from the Flynn interview.  Peter Strzok asks Lisa Page if FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is OK with his report: “Also, is Andy good with F-302?”

Lisa Page replies: “Launch on F 302”.

That would be Flynn’s 302.  The FBI interpretation of the Flynn interview, is now the way the FBI can control the interview content…. and, specifically because the only recourse Flynn would have to contradict that FBI interpretation would be to compromise the Vice President… Flynn cannot challenge the structure of the narrative within the 302 outline.

See what happened?

Does it all make sense now?

Do you see why there are reports of the second FBI agent, Joe Pientka, saying he didn’t believe Flynn lied to them in the interview.  Likely because Flynn didn’t…. but the McCabe crew jumped on the opportunity to frame a lose/lose.  Either Flynn accepts a version of the 302 report where he lied; or, Flynn has to take the position that Vice President Mike Pence lied to the nation in the CBS Face The Nation interview.

See how that went down?

That’s also the likely reason why FBI Agent Joe Pietka has been kept quiet.

FUBAR !!  All of it.

WATCH – The first three minutes are important :

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Wednesday January 25th –  The Department of Justice, National Security Division, (at this timeframe Mary McCord was head of the DOJ-NSD) – received a detailed readout from the FBI agents who had interviewed Flynn. Yates said she felt “it was important to get this information to the White House as quickly as possible.”

Thursday January 26th – (morning) Yates called McGahn first thing that morning to tell him she had “a very sensitive matter” that had to be discussed face to face. McGahn agreed to meet with Yates later that afternoon.

Thursday January 26th – (afternoonSally Yates traveled to the White House along with a senior member of the DOJ’s National Security Division, “who was overseeing the matter”.  This was Yates’ first meeting with McGahn in his office, which also acts as a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF).

Yates said she began their meeting by laying out the media accounts and media statements made by Vice President Mike Pence and other high-ranking White House officials about General Flynn’s activity “that we knew not to be the truth.

According to Sally Yates testimony, she and ???? reportedly presented all the information to McGahn so the White House could take action that they deemed appropriate.  When asked by McGahn if Flynn should be fired, Yates answered, “that really wasn’t our call.”

Yates also said her decision to notify the White House counsel had been discussed “at great length.”  According to her testimony: “Certainly leading up to our notification on the 26th, it was a topic of a whole lot of discussion in DOJ and with other members of the intel community.”

Friday January 27th – (morning)  White House Counsel Don McGahn called Yates in the morning and asked if she could come back to his office.

Friday January 27th – (late afternoon) According to her testimony, Sally Yates returned to the White House late that afternoon.  One of McGahn’s topics discussed was whether Flynn could be prosecuted for his conduct.

Specifically, according to Yates, one of the questions *McGahn asked Yates: “Why does it matter to DOJ if one White House official lies to another?” She explained that it “was a whole lot more than that,” and reviewed the same issues outlined the prior day.

*If you consider that McGahn was trying to thread the needle between Mike Pence’s poorly worded response to CBS, and Michael Flynn’s questioning that came after Pence’s statement. ie. McGahn could see the no-win situation Flynn was in during that inquisition.

McGahn then expressed his concern that taking any action might interfere with the FBI investigation of Flynn, and Yates said it wouldn’t: “It wouldn’t really be fair of us to tell you this and then expect you to sit on your hands,” Yates claims to have told McGahn.

McGahn asked if he could look at the underlying evidence of Flynn’s conduct, and she said they would work with the FBI over the weekend and “get back with him on Monday morning.”

Friday January 27th, 2017 – (evening) In what appears to be only a few hours later, President Trump is having dinner with FBI Director James Comey where President Trump asked if he was under investigation.

Now, accepting the politicization of the entire Russian Conspiracy Narrative that was leading the headlines for the two months prior to this dinner; and knowing moments earlier your Chief White House counsel informs you that two political operatives (Yates and ????) from the DOJ were providing classified intelligence reports about General Flynn; and knowing the prior months (Nov/Dec/Jan) were fraught with leaks from intelligence reports identical to those discussed;  wouldn’t you perhaps think that any action you take could be utilized to add fuel to this Russian narrative?  And/Or be used by these same leak facilitators to make something seem like something it is not?

Think about it.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller, in later effort to help the scheme team cover-up the entire surveillance operation, charged Flynn (full pdf) with falsely telling FBI agents that he did not ask the ambassador “to refrain from escalating the situation” in response to the sanctions.

According to the plea, while being questioned by FBI agents on January 24, 2017, Flynn also lied when he claimed he could not recall a subsequent conversation with Kislyak, in which the ambassador told Flynn that the Putin regime had “chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of [Flynn’s] request.”

Furthermore, a week before the sanctions were imposed, Flynn had also spoken to Kislyak, asking the ambassador to delay or defeat a vote on a pending United Nations resolution.

The criminal complaint charges Flynn lied to the FBI by denying both that he’d made this request and that he’d spoken afterward with Kislyak about Russia’s response to it.

There was nothing wrong with the incoming national-security adviser’s having meetings with foreign counterparts or discussing such matters as the sanctions in those meetings.

However, lying to the FBI -or McCabe structuring the FBI position of the 302’s to give the appearance of Flynn lying- is the process crime that led to Flynn’s admissions.

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651 Responses to Occam’s Razor: Michael Flynn…

  1. Whitehouse Clown says:

    Occam’s Razor: Brennan is the nexus.

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    • Drogers says:

      Within the context of the IC I’d agree wholeheartedly.

      What drove all these players and their despicable acts against our country; I’d argue either their Democratic/Progressive dogma OR their hate for PDJT.

      I’m not sure I’ll ever have a satisfactory answer to the why of that.

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      • Old Lady says:

        Satan

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        • YvonneMarie says:

          All over the place.

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        • G. Alistar says:

          Perhaps the sinful nature or “old man” referred to by St Paul? Our foe is three fold: 1) powers and principalities (fallen angels led by Satan), 2) inside all of us, the sinful nature (we all sin, me, you the entire world) and finally, 3) the cosmos (the world) things and temptations of life which are designed by Satan to get our eyes off the Lord, Jesus. Children of God have three powerful allies: 1. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit a relationship made possible by faith alone, in Christ alone. 2. The Word of God, his revealed truth which provides salvation and purpose (i.e., to grow in grace and knowledge of the Lord, Jesus Christ.). 3. The gift of the church universal, (bride of Christ who provide with others, encouragement and hope). Sadly, this message is foolishness to those who are without Christ, without hope and without eternal life. But to those who believe, it’s the power of God. Point is, Satan is probably a busy fellow…..many sins and wickedness ascribed to him are simply human sinfulness or the world system apart from God.

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        • southernsue says:

          BINGO!

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      • starfcker says:

        Drivers, it’s real simple. Their ideology is devoid of ethics. The ends justify the means, because they are morally superior. They stand for right. They do the right things, say the right things, think the right thoughts. Everyone else is a simple racist rube worthy of only contempt. It’s revenge of the nerds. Not an alpha amongst them. And they are die-hard, because like Sundance always says, the only way they can keep believing that they are on the right track is to ignore lots and lots of things that are quite obvious.

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        • starfcker says:

          Drogers, not drivers. Autocorrect is killing me

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        • G. Alistar says:

          I also think many are devoid of logic or rational thinking. Low info voters. Believing the lies..

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          • Deplorable_Infidel says:

            John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

            2Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
            4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

            Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
            3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

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          • chipin8511 says:

            They indoctrinate our children in Socialism and hate to keep them stupid as possible easy to brainwash all part of the plan to put the middle-class on Plantations.

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        • rayvandune says:

          They also convince themselves that it is their duty to weild power over the little people, because the power to control others, AND BE FEARED FOR IT, is erotically stimulating to them. And essentially 100% of them are Democrats, because the key self-selector for membership in the Democratic Party is that same lust for power. That is why the Dems have excellent party discipline – they are addicted to power and they understand it is achievable through strong conformity.

          There has been skepticism expressed about whether Strzok and Page were actually lovers, but that is quite beside the point: they were teammates in erotically-charged high adventure. If they indeed had actual sexual intercourse, it was more in celebration of their much bigger “erotic conquest”, the destruction of a President, AND NULLIFYING THE VOTES OF MILLIONS OF OTHERS!

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      • pete says:

        those at the top are dyed in the wool globalists ,the foot soldiers at the lower level are mere hangers ons, the march to destroy the USA had progressed nicely under BHO and would be completed with 8 years of HRC. we the people ruined that and they are going to make us pay, every day the invasion continues, every day they erode our rights, notice the dem push to disarm us, crash the markets. If we keep resisting other countries are going to do the same, somehow we ve managed to muck up their plan, a world of serfs ruled by our betters. paris Sweden brexit all bumps in the road. what comes next

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        • David M Zuniga says:

          What comes next depends on whether there is a repentant remnant in America, or only a cynical one. TACTICAL CIVICS™ is predicated on God’s mercy and the rational, deliberate, repentant, long-term, full-spectrum action of a faithful remnant. I suppose we shall see; some days, we lament the paucity of serious-minded citizens amidst so many armchair whiners and debaters. Venues like this one (operating at a level far above the social media norm) are rare.

          Our belief remains: we are living in the most blessed, exciting era in human history. Most Americans have no inkling that American communism is over a century old, and that the Internet has only accelerated the collapse of communism, worldwide. Our republic is no exception.

          If you would like to graduate from jabber to duty, we’d love to have you be the founder of your county chapter of TACTICAL CIVICS™. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7oAfB3uNMQ

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      • Liam Song says:

        Sundance, really clear.
        Drogers; Brennan, Comey, Yates et al were driven to find some linkage, (knowing full well that without inventing it none existed), between the Trump team and Russia. Why? Because they were at that point trying desperately to justify all the previous time spent unmasking, setting up campaign insiders, and all to spy upon and develop leverage over Americans who were running against them in a national election.

        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/john-solomon-bombshell-at-least-6-deep-state-operatives-attempted-to-infiltrate-trump-camp-during-2016-election/

        They spied but still lost the election they were somehow convinced they would win (can you say anticipated election rigging?). The newly elected president could suddenly find out what they had been doing. They scrambled to legitimize the spy-craft, while keeping it up in the hopes of finding or creating some “collusion,” and when that too failed they trotted out the special council.

        What is really important to remember here is that they knew right from the start that there was no collusion with Russia on the part of the Trump team.

        https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/419901-fbi-email-chain-may-provide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

        They themselves however, had been very busy colluding with foreigners. The Uranium One deal, itself put together to ensure the Iranian nuclear deal would go through, this was all the very criminal collusion that they were trying to ensure nobody like Trump or anyone else found out about.

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        • Your Tour Guide says:

          Remember Hillary’s statements about Russia?

          Those better with the time line could fill this in
          ( if incorrect).

          If memory on this is correct, Hillary made some “out
          of the blue” statements about Russia during the
          primary. Hillary, being basically lazy, probably was
          uttering words devised by Podesta or Sid the squid.

          By uttering the words “Russia” Hillary was also
          saying “Make it so”. Hillary threw the lie out. Hillary
          gave them permission to come up with evidence to
          support the lie. That’s all that was needed. Then
          she stepped back. So that it couldn’t be linked to
          her. The next step ( prior to the Flynn frame up)
          was to have someone look for something, anything,
          that would support the initial lie.

          The question would be who gave permission for
          everyone to begin spying in hopes of evidence being
          manufactured? Who gave calls to Dickerson, et al
          to begin asking leading questions to support the
          “Russia” narrative? How Dickerson threw that out
          reeks of Candy Crowley, Stephanopolous and their
          “out of the blue” support for the dems.

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          • Liam Song says:

            From memory, during the campaign there was a general democratic guffaw at Trump’s musings that he saw no reason not to have a decent relationship with Putin and with Russia. The sh*t hit the fan however, when the DNC and Podesta emails were released.

            I recall CNN pressing Donna Brazile at the Dem primary to comment on these just released and very revealing DNC email, (hard to imagine that sort of journalism now). The press was at that very brief moment in time questioning her about the actual content. Her deflection was to avoid questions about what the various authors of the email had actually been writing, and instead declare that she wasn’t going to talk about material that had been STOLEN; it mattered not what the email actually said, because they were obtained illegally, don’t ya know. Nobody at that point knew about Seth Rich or for that matter how Bernie had been railroaded by collusion between HRC and the DNC and Seth Rich’s outrage, so this tactic basically worked. Even Podesta’s leaked email reference to finding the culprit and making somebody pay, (obviously before they decided to pin it on Moscow) was washed away in the river of self-righteous hubris these criminals are so adept at turning on.

            We now know how obvious a fit this wholesale fiction was to processes already underway to establish Trump/Russian collusion. They could just fold in this new and outrageous story about Russian hacking of the DNC, the delivery of these email to Wikileaks and all in order to support Trump. ERGO: The Russians prefer Donald over Hillary so he’s the one that everyone should suspect, not her. And here we are. Somehow no official agency has yet ever examined the DNC servers to determine if any of this Russian hacking narrative is even remotely real.

            It’s not. Just trying to remember all the lies is a full time job.

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    • dallasdan says:

      It sure looks that way.

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  2. Publius2016 says:

    Remember the Electoral College was still at play…Gen. Flynn was placed in a Catch 22 by Obama Administration and VP Pence made a play…45 was ahead of the Coup not because of Rogers but because he already knew he was under surveillance…most likely since 2011.

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    • Sentient says:

      BJ Hunnicutt from MASH was trying to convince electors to go rogue.

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        • Matthew LeBlanc says:

          Holy Hell I will never understand how he can cause such insanity in seemingly normal people. It is like a super power to go along with his ability to predict the future. Amazing man PDJT is.

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          • cozette says:

            Because Trump is good and he is confronting EVIL. The reactions to Trump remind me of the reactions of suave vampires when suddenly confronted by a crucifix. The suave mask drops and the deminic being hisses and cringes uncontrollably. Many good Americans are just brainwashed by professionals to believe their hatred of Trump is virtuous. This people are not lost imho, just deceived. But others are showing public signs of demonic possession. Imho they, like President Trump and his team, understand that whats going on isn’t just the usual political dance. We are in an all out, very real, Lord of the Rings, global war between the forces of God and Evil whether the Hobbitts in the Shires realize it or not.

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    • chipin8511 says:

      https://chaletbooks.com/chaletreports/?p=1600&fbclid=IwAR1FAjTo9iLprTJTGauzoIuThkIhkquMJ2aqFh1uR05qn20chk8U4q2VwKI this lays out the Trump spying must read very detailed why who and how. In the beginning, Flynn was part of the spy team against trump.

      MUST READ best explanation I have ever seen.

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      • chipin8511 says:

        CIA Crimes • Deep State Today
        EXCLUSIVE: Michael Flynn Was a Keystone in the CIA/Five-Eyes Plot to Frame Donald Trump
        7 September 2018by David Reznor

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        • chipin8511 says:

          Chalet Reports has concluded that Michael Flynn, currently under charges by Special Counsel Robert Mueller for purportedly “lying to the FBI,” was a keystone in a well-laid plan by the CIA, along with others in the US and Five Eyes “intelligence community,” to frame Donald Trump for “Russian collusion” before the presidential election, and to use the maliciously false Russian “connections” to defeat him, if possible, or to overthrow him in the then-unlikely event that he was elected President of the United States.

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          • Larry says:

            VP PENCE’s “poorly worded response to CBS”

            How does ANYONE know his words were poorly chosen?

            Maybe, just maybe, they were INTENTIONAL?

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            • Judith says:

              Whenever Republicans do something to sabotage MAGA, it really should come as no surprise. This is the UNiparty and this is what they do. This has been going on for DECADES.

              UNiparty’s actions are actually the opposite of incompetence. Their goal is to destroy our country and, by extension, the presidency of Donald John Trump. This is on the face of it a very deliberate and methodical act of sedition against our Constitutional Republic.

              Talk about armchair quarterbacking and hindsight being 20/20? Remember how, right from the get-go, the Enemedia howled and tore into anyone and everyone connected to President Trump, unmercifully. Except for Mike Pence. In the middle of that maelstrom he was completely untouched by the vitriol. And those kid gloves spoke volumes to me in *real* time.

              But what do I know? I’m just a troll ..or something.

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              • Renee H says:

                I observed that, too, Judith, and I’m not forgetting it. That particular silence spoke volumes to me also. And it continues…

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      • Chip- thanks for posting! The Chalet report article is (frighteningly) convincing. Now I don’t know what to believe. Is Flynn a white hat or a black hat? Things have gotten to the point that I no longer trust ANYONE who works for The Government. ANY branch or department, federal,state or local. They are all out to get us.

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      • cozette says:

        Anyone who believes that Flynn wanted to undermine Trump or that Flynn would ever work with the CIA know nothing about his 30 years of service. The man hated the CIA and intended to dismantle it, seriously restructure the NSA and basically have intelligence return to being a function of the military. In other words, stop having intel be political. Return it to being used to keep America safe. Return it to be under the Constitution. That is why they took Flynn out. He knows where the bodies are buried. Hes the most brilliant spook in the world and he intended, with POTUS, to end their evil. To suggest otherwise is worse than accusing Trump of being a traitor. Now if you want to question the role Pence played in all of this and speculate about his connections and motivations then I’m all in. I will NEVER trust Pence, ever, until his role in removing Flynn is explained by POTUS.

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      • GB Bari says:

        Ashton Gray – a supposed Deep State “expose” author touted heavily by the Chalet Books website and by David Reznor (the author of the linked article) – also claims that Dan Bongino and Jon Solomon are liars about George Papadopoulos’ innocence.

        I’m not sure if this website is on the up and up – may well be Deep State disinformation disguised as anti-Deep State research. certainly some of the central tenets of their assertions about Flynn, Papadopolous and others run completely counter to what has been presented here on CTH and elsewhere.

        Read with caution. Lots on innuendo made in the linked article but few hard pieces of truly hard corroborating evidence to back up the implications.

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  3. The Boss says:

    Well done recap. Apparently someone didn’t spend the day mourning.

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    • nimrodman says:

      We each mourn in our own way, Boss, we each mourn in our own way

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    • rashomon says:

      Pence, Pence, Pence. Russia, Russia, Russia. Pence, Pence, Pence. WTF!?!

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      • spoogels says:

        I think Pence was naive He obviously didnt know. Anyway he should have said “I dont know” or “to the best of my knowledge I’m not sure’

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        • Yep. Hindsight and all. I’m not a big fan of VP Pence, but I think he was just trying to answer in the usual politician way.

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        • cozette says:

          Pence was NOT naive. That is wishful thinking. Hes been in politics since the Reagan era and had his own radio show for years. Hes known as a seasoned, smooth, media savvy political operative. So why did this VERY experienced man, go on a prime time show, at the height of Russia hysteria, and give such a jaw droppingly dumb response that put every single member of Trumps team and Trump himself in the cross hairs? Pence gave the answer that orced Flynn out just as the CIA, Neocon/Bush/Clinton cabal wanted. Hmmm. And who has always been close to the Bush cabal? Mike Pence. Mission accomplished. Flynn out. There was no way at that point that Trump could pick Flynn over Pence and the cabal knew it.

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          • Judith says:

            I agree cozette. The interesting part is, the way the question was worded, Pence’s answer was technically *correct.* There was a qualifier at the end of the reporter’s question that referred to a *particular* subset of Russians, those with ulterior motives. So Pence’s answer was: No, Flynn was not in contact with *those* particular Russians. Apparently this contact was also after the election had concluded, and so it was technically during the transition, and not the “campaign.”

            So why the ensuing Brouhaha and then the SILENCE from Pence?

            Pence’s failure to point out these obvious distinctions in his answer, in my mind, indicates his complicency in the plot to remove Flynn.

            Pence doth *NOT* protest too much!

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  4. Bogeyfree says:

    With the Bongino podcast today covering the Flynn topic and now the Sundance post which double downs on the Flynn BS, I wonder if these two guys are talking to each other as IMO it makes for a strong and unified narrative that reaches and hopefully resonates with millions of readers.

    I’d really like to see these two guys double down on the massive spying/unmasking crimes coupled with the Selling out of America, beyond Uranium 1 narrative.

    IMO these two topics are going to be PT’s counter punch because when you show this evidence to the American people, the whole Russian Collusion BS will become so obvious as their fake coverup mechanisms in order to get Trump and keep him from exposing these much, much bigger crimes.

    By the way Mattis back on Oct 22 put in a new judge for military tribunals at Gitmo, Col. Douglas K. Watkins.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “By the way Mattis back on Oct 22 put in a new judge for military tribunals”

      Does anyone have a snail mail address on hand for him?

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    • davidb says:

      Mattis is political….a democrat too. There is no military tribunals for citizens at gitmo. the prison population at gitmo averages now around 40…..none are US citizens.

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      • Newton Love says:

        > “… There [are}] no military tribunals for citizens at gitmo. …”

        Watch this YouTube of (R) Senator Graham questioning Judge (now Justice) Kavanaugh. Start at 26:03. Senator Graham astutely slides into some interesting legal theories about using Military Tribunals to prosecute Civilians.

        Kavanaugh knows his law, and the laws relating to the people that collaborate with the enemies of the US Government. Under those bodies of law, US Citizens have been put to death for their activities!

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      • cripto says:

        No he isn’t and your risible attempt to smear him is , well FUBAR.
        Have a nice day.

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      • chipin8511 says:

        Yet

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  5. joebkonobi says:

    Thanks SD. Best short, concise analysis of how the coverup went down. If FBI manipulated the Flynn 302, you would think their would be a requirement that once FBI documented the interview, Flynn would be allowed to read and sign that it was a true and accurate representation of what he said. What is really FUBAR about this is that all the evidence is out there for any serious investigation to discover, yet everything is hidden (redacted) under the auspices of interfering with the Special Counsel’s investigation, Mueller, among many others, like Obama, is a crook and a traitor. Sessions recusal putting Rosenstein in charge was a coup within a coup. It has always been ironic to me that a special counsel was appointed to coverup crimes which, probably more than any time in our history warranted a special counsel/prosecutor. I pray daily that all of the treasonous ba*tards are exposed and prosecuted, indicted and pay the price equivalent to their crimes. If justice is not served here we are a lawless, corrupt society and may never recover. My only consolation to this point is Obama looks like sh*t, and even though he has no conscious, he is scared sh*tless.

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  6. delmarvajim says:

    If you read the question that the interviewer asked VP Pence, *did any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election?*, Pence’s answer was truthful. The ambassador probably didn’t have a hand in any meddling. IMO neither Pence nor General Flynn lied.

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    • Tom H says:

      He never should have answered the question in the form asked. It was completely vague and open-ended…basically meaningless. In a courtroom, no lawyer would ever let his client answer a question like that. He could have thrown it back at him and made him look silly…What Russians are you referring to? Putin? The unidentified alleged hackers? During what time frame? How would I know what Russians were trying to meddle in the election? He could have easily avoided the question and made the questioner look like an idiot. Grossly unprepared.

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      • Zorro says:

        Exactly, pin down the context and specifics and then ask the interviewer where he got his facts, then, as you said, avoid and make the questioner look like an idiot.

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      • WSB says:

        That interview of VP-elect Pence was shocking.

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        • cripto says:

          How was it shocking. I guess you have never been lied to by people you trust. How the dickens was he supposed to respond? Give me a break, that at least you understand how Flynn screwed things up royally.

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          • Liam Song says:

            Cripto, I think you might need to re-read Sundance’s description of how the FBI/DOJ used Flynn’s comments – where they themselves initially did not think that Flynn had lied, to then turn it against the rather broad denial that Pence made in that interview.

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          • WSB says:

            This was a direct gotcha question that Pence should have been able to just give a wishy washy answer to. He IS a politician after all.

            Flynn was expecting two FBI employees to stop by his his office to assist in coordinating with the transition team moving into the White House.

            Two very different things.

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        • Your Tour Guide says:

          Agreed. But it takes until now to figure out why.
          Dickerson was one of the “chosen” to take part
          in the take down. Was he aware of WHY he was
          asking the question? Was he just reading questions
          off a sheet, or was that one particular question
          highlighted for emphasis? Did they throw him a
          “good dog” bone afterwards? Dickerson bought
          any shiny new wheels, new digs, summer place
          this past year? Did Podesta give him a “heads up”
          before the Pence interview?

          Megan was THE ONE who was supposed to do
          the take down. She had already been promised
          BIG THINGS for doing so. That grin she was
          sporting among everybody the day before wasn’t
          a grin of someone that was going to ask “gotcha”
          questions and help Hillary.

          That’s the grin of someone who knows that they
          are going to be rewarded BIG TIME. When you
          get the chance of being rewarded BIG TIME, you
          keep your mouth shut so you won’t blow it. And
          go around grinning like a loon. Even though Megan
          ended up not being THE ONE, she still got a 40
          million dollar contract out of trying, remember?

          She was suddenly toxic to Fox, but Murdoch
          no doubt pulled some strings. Daddy had promised
          Megan something shiny, and he wasn’t going to
          go back on his word.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Was the interviewer FED the question, as part of the set up?

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      • spoogels says:

        Was that guy PRIMED by the FBI to ask that question?

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        • Newton Love says:

          “Was that guy [the interviewer] PRIMED by the FBI to ask that question?”

          Is water wet? Is the Sun hot? Are the North and South poles cold? Is Robert Mueller a traitor?

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          • Your Tour Guide says:

            Dutchman, Newton, Spoogels:
            See my post above. Think we’re all on same page.
            In retrospect, this reeks of “done deal”. Was the
            Pence interview scheduled wayyyy in advance?
            Or did Dickerson received marching orders to
            get the “new guy” in? With the intent being to
            ask those crucial “Russia” questions? The ones
            that gave credibility to Hillary’s initial lie?

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    • G. Combs says:

      “…The ambassador probably didn’t have a hand in any meddling….”

      Actually he did. He showed up in Sessions office and no one knew why. (It was part of the reason given for the demand Sessions recuse.)

      I also imagine the ambassador had ties to Natalia Veselnitskaya…

      “A Russian deputy attorney general, who is thought to have directed Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya in her efforts abroad on behalf of Russia’s government, reportedly died Wednesday night in a helicopter crash.”
      https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/409961-russian-deputy-ag-linked-to-lawyer-in-trump-tower-meeting

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      • WSB says:

        Kissoff was in on all of it, IMHO. Just his choice of seats with the Democrats at POTUS’ first address to Congress said everything.

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      • davidb says:

        In the future, I bet we will find out sessions was in the thick of this, and anyone he appointed for investigating, has to be suspect.

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        • cozette says:

          Sessions is the one who quietly presided over the purging of the top ranks of the FBI and DOJ. Sessions is the one who secretly appointed Huber, with powers far greater than a SC like Mueller, to coordinate with IG Horowitz in the investigation and prosecution of the Swamp. BTW it is illegal as well as stupid to discuss on going investigations or let the public know who has been indicted until the indictments are unsealed. Sessions reopened investigations into U1, the Clinton Foundation and Hezbollahs Iinfiltration last year. Yes, he WAS in the thick of things, working quietly under the radar. God bless him. Now its Whitakers turn at bat. I see Whitaker as playing a similar role to Scaramucci ie what the corporate world calls a hit man or hatchet man. Temporary and deadly. I suspect hes a shiny object to distract the media from the real threats while Sessions lulled the media for over a year into thinking there were no threats. Moves and counter moves. It will be fun to watch what happens next. Bottom line, Im betting on Team Trump while keeping them in my prayers.

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    • mikeyboo says:

      “did any adviser or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election?
      MIKE PENCE: Of course not. And I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy. (link)”
      That’s my take on the question to Pence, and his answer, as well. I don’t agree that Pence answered poorly at all. and I disagree that Flynn was trying to protect poor old “dumb” Pence.
      We have reason to believe that Flynn was worried financially and that he had info about the Erdogan’s bete noir i.e. Gullen. Only recently, the US has begun talking about deporting Gullen when we have protected him for months-possibly years. That info may be the way Flynn “bought” his way out of Mueller’s web.

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    • Amy2 says:

      KEY: “The incoming administration was under a false-narrative siege created by the media. At the time (early Jan, 2017) ‘any contact’ with Russians was evidence of meddling/election-collusion with Russians.” We need to remember this.

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    • 🍺Gunny66 says:

      Then why did Pence have Gen Flynn fired for lying to him?

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    • It’s also very clear the media was playing their part in the coup. The Fake News media is the enemy of the American people.

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  7. KnowSERENoFear says:

    Someone said it very well today on the Politics thread (paraphrasing):

    When people fear their government – tyranny follows.
    When a government fears the people – freedom flows.

    IMHO the deep state – the elite – the entitled, simply can not accept that We the People, in accordance with the US Constitution, have all the power and our government’s main role is to protect the People’s Natural Rights. One of many avenues to wrest power from We the People is to persuade us to fear them – hence they daringly display two legal systems.

    One system for them and another for us. They have bloated our government with unelected policy makers. They have corrupted our voting system. They have replaced our Justice system with a legal system. They write laws we can not understand. They spend our money in secrecy and complexity. The Branches are collaborative rather than separate. These glaring hypocrisies and blantant snubbing of the Constitution conveniently amplify our helplessness – our fealty – our fear -our submission to them.

    However, IMHO, they miscalculate: unlike the unarmed French protesters, Americans, when pushed far enough, will take to the streets with more than reflective safety vests. Then, like the British in 1783, they will fear We the People…and freedom will return.

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    • G. Combs says:

      “However, IMHO, they miscalculate…”

      Yes they do. That is because their only contact is with the gelded city dwellers and they have no contact with those living in ‘flyover country’

      Also remember Peter Strzok’s nasty text:
      “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support.”

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    • Dar Adal says:

      “When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
      — Thomas Jefferson

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    • David M Zuniga says:

      No, not ‘take to the streets’ like lawless French Jacobins. We are returning to our lawful place, collectively ABOVE the U.S. Constitution, only to enforce its every jot and tittle, and forcing our SERVANTS to finally begin obeying the U.S. Constitution to which they take an oath to obey. This new way of life, developed over 40,000 hours of R&D by 39 volunteers (veterans of all four major service branches, the U.S. Secret Service, small businessmen, authors, teachers, missionaries, engineers and software programmers) is called TACTICAL CIVICS™, with 79 county chapters launched so far.

      It is a full-spectrum solution to the deep, systemic organized crime that infests American government. The first action step is finalizing ratification of the original First Right in the Bill of Rights, which needs 27 more ‘yes’ votes. The original proposed First Amendment will become the 28th, limiting congressional districts to 50,000 people. This was the only subject on which George Washington felt strongly enough about to stand and address the plenary session of the Philadelphia Convention in 1787.

      Our First Right (ourfirstright.org) will open up a seat in the U.S. House and in the U.S. Electoral College to residents of the 31,000 American small towns that have had no representation for a century. It will make the U.S. House reflect the actual, ‘red map’ conservatism of the American people, which has been stilted to the far more effective urban machines for four generations.

      The second step is the proposed ‘Bring Congress Home Act’, removing Congress from DC forever, and bringing legislative procedures and committee chicanery into the light of day and the 21st century. Also limiting congressional terms, cutting congressmen’s pay by 50% (since their districts will be 1/14 the present size, on average), and limiting their staff to two (six for senators).

      We The People have always had these prerogatives as creators of our highest law. Yet never ONCE in our history have we undertaken to actually *enforce* the stipulations of our highest law, against the creatures of that law. Now, we will.

      Sure beats armchair quarterbacking every corrupt scheme emanating from the most corrupt, ruthless, powerful city-state on earth, only after the fact and with no solutions, only more pointless debates.

      We’re only looking for the one person in every 200 Americans who both understands the opportunity that God is giving us among all the peoples of the world, and who intends to DO something, rather than just jabber.

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  8. TonyClarke says:

    Firing squad for all of them.

    Even to a political novice (like me), when Obama sent the Russian diplomats packing, it was obvious it was all part of a desperate, fake scheme.

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  9. recoverydotgod says:

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  10. CNN_sucks says:

    So the media is in cahoot to entrap and criminalize Trump administration and anyone who works for him. We spent 48 million and still counting. Mueller and his handlers should go straight to jail and reimburse the american people.

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    • cripto says:

      Mueller’s marauders are at the ‘end of their day’. It will be over soon. Every other stuff they found in their investigation is going to other jurisdictions.

      Mueller found no ‘collusion’ no ‘obstruction’ by the President.
      That is all.

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  11. Jenevive says:

    I have to ask about Admiral Rogers , everyone says he is the hero
    in all this telling President Trump what he knew..but since then what
    has he done? he has not come out publicly with what he knows.
    I remember him in the hearing with James Comey sitting there
    next to him basically saying nothing..they all know he found out
    and they know he likely told the President so it not like that is
    secret..but since he left why has he not said anything publically about
    what he found out, what they did etc.

    IF they were fooling around in the NSA data base and he was head
    of NSA then he likely figured he would get the blame so that is why
    he likely told the President..he probably wanted no part of the coup
    but he hasn;t come forward and talked about it either so he is
    letting this all happen.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Maybe, just maybe he is spilling his guts to Huber.

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    • Franklin says:

      He may have inadvertently rather than overtly confirmed the suspicions Trump and or his advisors had about government spying. Trump may also have been “chumming the water” in the hope of catching a fish. Lo and behold who did they catch – Admiral Rogers.

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      • 4gypsybreeze says:

        Are you talking about what happened when Obama Administration found out that the probability was high that Admiral Rogers told President Elect Trump (then) what was going on with the 702’s and the wiretapping, etc.?

        Also, I do believe that perhaps you may have your information/people mixed up.

        Please refer to the January 2018 article written by Sundance -Operation Condor. You can access that article and many others by typing in Admiral Rogers in the search box.

        Any time I need a refresher-or even a did I miss something moment I find the search box quite helpful.

        I found myself relying on the search box and the red links in the articles kept me busy for months after I found this site.

        Glad to have hopefully been of assistance! Happy reading!

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    • Stick says:

      Completely agree. Never understand everyone calling Rogers a hero. He could blow the lid on all of this. He is only slightly less guilty than the rest. Sat on his but through 2 years of oboma lawlessness and said nothing. He’s a coward

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      • WSB says:

        You should review Sundance’s archives on Admiral Rogers. Just type his name in the search box…upper right. You can then read about the history of this part of events.

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        • steph_gray says:

          Is it my imagination, or has this month since elections featured many new accusations here against people we are fairly sure are not Deep State of being Deep State? Now it’s Admiral Rogers.

          It’s almost as if the Deep State wants everyone at CTH to think they are – ubiquitous.

          Just a thought. 🤔

          I will revisit it when posters start in on Barron’s nefarious D.S. dealings.

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          • WSB says:

            Yes, Barron will be the accused of the FIFA scam!

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          • 4gypsybreeze says:

            Steph….I am giving them the benefit of doubt in this instance and referring them to the information and the search box. Perhaps they don’t know. And this could be a way to educate them on something they perhaps were unaware of—the search box.

            I have been here almost a year. For months I was reading everything that Sundance had written, clicked on all the red links and read and read and READ!

            That is the only way that I found out so much that most people are STILL unaware of.

            I supplemented Sundance articles by listening to Dan Bongino podcast on my IPAD while doing chores, cooking, etc. And where did I originally learn about Conservative Treehouse? From Bongino podcast

            We need to remind people….or inform new people of…….

            THE SEARCH BOX!.

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            • 4gypsybreeze says:

              I can only believe that the reason that Sundance–by the way Thanks Sundance–writes is to inform people of what is going on. We have to remember….a LOT of people STILL do not know even half of what has happened/happening!

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              • Gypsy- and most of them will NEVER know. Just imagine if you never found the Tree House.

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              • GB Bari says:

                Yes. AND, we have a LOT of commenters here in CTH that by all appearances** do not read Sundance’s articles thoroughly nor do they click on the hyperlinks that Sundance provides in most of his articles that refer back to previous articles on the same (or directly related) topic for background info.

                **The proof is that these commenters ask questions that were answered in the article or the linked background information.

                Also many Treepers are rightfully aware that a LOT of trolls – either malicious Democrats, anti-Trumpers, and/or Deep State – have appeared in CTH over the past year to plant seeds of doubt and confuse the previously well-established storyline that Sundance has worked hard to develop from the facts as they became public.

                Commenters who explain their differing opinions are not necessarily trolls but there are certain patterns of posting that give away those with malicious intent.

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        • 4gypsybreeze says:

          My goodness WSB! I believe we were typing the same response at the same time!

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      • 4gypsybreeze says:

        Sundance has written many articles regarding Admiral Rogers. I suggest the SEARCH box here on the Treehouse website. Just type in Admiral Rogers. I recommend the article from January 2018 – Operation Condor. Very well written and extensive information.

        Perhaps after reading that and the other articles that Sundance has written will help you understand!

        The Search box is a most wonderful tool that is our library of research here.

        Hope that helps! And yes, Admiral Rogers IS a hero!

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  12. FUBAR indeed SD.

    The Occam’s razor that patriots should care about is that Flynn was able to deescalate the tensions with the Russians which the inept Obama administration had caused. BHO’s foreign policy was beyond disastrous, indeed snakebit from:
    Syria red-line
    Failed pivot to Asia
    Failed reset with Russia (and the goofy button)
    Failure to effectively deal with Russian aggression in Ukraine
    Failed (and corrupt) interference with Israeli elections, failed Libya aggression
    Failed MidEast negotiations
    Disastrous (and corrupt) Iran deal
    Ridiculous apology tour
    Cultivation of the thug Erdogan
    Inability to understand EU issues or monetary aspects relating to Great Recession
    Failed ability to contain North Korea
    Sucking up to communist regime Cuba but inability to counter the thug leaders of Venezuela
    Failed immigration policy
    Acceptance of misguided Paris climate accords
    Failure to contain Chinese aggression in trade, IP and with second/third world states seduced by Chinese one-belt/one-road

    Without the complicity of the leftist media, leaking Deep State intelligence community, DOJ and FBI, and of course the utterly corrupt Spygate machinations none of this would have happened.

    Surely people of good faith and patriotism would understand and give a pass to Pence mis-speaking–but then again, without the treachery of the press interviewing him, there would be no there there.

    While I still think Flynn’s work with Turkey is questionable and created real problems for the Trump administration, the rest of this story is ludicrous.

    And Flynn’s supposed transgressions re. Russia had NO impact for the well being of the USA. Unlike the treasonous leakers of the Swamp and Press.

    Another deposit in the “Cold Anger” account.

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      Nice summary, but when you only “indict” an “the inept Obama administration,” you fail to notice that mostly it was purposefulness — evil intentions — that caused.this disastrous America foreign policy.

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      • Dutchman says:

        My thinking, too.
        “Once,…is happenstance, twice,.coincidence.

        THIRD time its ‘enemy action’.

        And you’ve got a long list, that doesn’t even include giving hezbola a free pass in South America, by shutting down the investigation into their cocain operation.

        He, BHO, WAS a manchurian Candidate,,and the only truth he spoke, was when he said he wanted to fundamentally transform America.

        Typical projection, to try to make VSG
        LOOK like a manchurian Candidate, with this muh Russia pap.

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      • Oh I don’t recall labelling BHO inept above–while I think he is far less able than many, I also believe he is a dyed in the wool leftist pursuing wrong ideas that lead to evil.
        For sure he appears to embrace evil, though I don’t presume to judge his soul, only his actions. I’m open to listening to elaborate conspiracy theories, but wait for facts to emerge to be convinced of them.
        That said, BHO’s deeds are indeed quite bad.

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      • Your Tour Guide says:

        Ineptness occurs once. Twice if everybody
        is truly clueless. Continual ineptness is
        invariably corruption. Almost without exception.

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  13. WES says:

    Yes an excellent post by Sundance! Sadly only a few hundred people will likely ever see or read this post. Obviously Sundance didn’t waste his time today mourning a dead rino! Thanks Sundance! We treepers however need to do our best to link this post far and wide!

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    • lemmus1 says:

      …iirc the daily count now exceeds 100,000 readers according to Ad Rem …see today’s guidelines post

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “the daily count now exceeds 100,000 readers”

        In the upper right margin you will find this:
        – – – – – – – – – –
        Click to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email.

        Join 128,928 other followers
        – – – – – – – – – – – –
        That is how many e-mail notices are sent out to alert readers of new posts on CTH – not the page count number of the people actually reading the pages.

        There are many people who regularly visit, but do not sign up for notifications to keep their email down to a minimum for various reasons.

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    • Zorro says:

      I don’t know how many will read SD’s post but what an honor to be one.

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    • steph_gray says:

      “A few 100 people”??

      It’s far better than that. Read today’s repost of the guidelines and you will find the actual number. ☺️

      Of course I agree on the “spreading the news” part. Sundance has done yeoman work as usual!

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  14. skifflegirl says:

    I’m not convinced Pence misspoke. At that time, the buzz in DC was that Trump, once inaugurated, would not be President for long. In January 2017, political operatives in the swamp were convinced that President-elect Trump would resign in disgrace and VP Pence would ascend to the presidency. I remember reports at that time from many different sources discussing this, not just the controlled corporate media. Infowars and Roger Stone were speaking to Congress people, CIA agents and military intel in DC who all said the same thing. Trump would be forced out and that this got in to Mike Pence’s head. Reportedly spent several weeks thinking he would be President. Remember the Access Hollywood tape? Mike Pence nearly bailed then, until alpha male Candidate Trump challenged his campaign staff and told them he wanted any doubters to get the hell out, right then and there. Unfortunately, I have little confidence in the intestinal fortitude of our Vice President.

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    • Co says:

      Skifflegirl: I always wondered who brought VP Pence to President Trump at the beginning to consider for VP slot . Maybe this is an easy answer and I missed it. VP Pence never gets attacked …ever.

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  15. cjzak says:

    Seems the left is trying to sell the game that because Mueller recommended leniency for Flynn and is wrapping up the investigation, that the Mueller is going to drop a bomb on PT, otherwise he would keep the investigation on going. The leftist media is licking their chops in anticipation of this being true and the ‘I’ word is looming large for January. Been reading this on other sites an Hannity just played a montage of the lefty news orgs. vomiting this new talking point ad nauseum. CNN of course was right on top of this today. Should be very interesting watching what comes out from Mueller. I know GP is not popular here, but they put out an article about this today. Garbage.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/get-ready-for-mueller-to-drop-a-bomb-soon-the-mueller-team-would-not-have-stopped-unless-they-thought-they-had-trump/

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    • WES says:

      Cjzak: thanks for the link! Yes I agree that things are likely to get much worse for Trump once the House changes hands. The deep state likely feel the need to double down now and make one last big push to get rid of President Trump. It would a!most seem like it is now or never for the deep state. No doubt they have been quietly setting the stage to finally take down President Trump. So far I have not seen any effort by Trump to prepare the American people that this is coming.

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      • steph_gray says:

        I guess it depends on how you define “worse.” It will certainly sound worse with both the House and the Yellowstream screeching and shrieking at a volume they have not yet reached,

        But the House has no power without the Senate, who will stop them, and the Yellowstream is bleeding viewers every few seconds.

        I don’t see any beef on their side.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Not SURE the Senate will ‘stop’ them.
          I’ve personally been convinced, from the outset, that McConnell/Ryan have been in this, up to their eyeballs.

          The lack of support or defence of POTUS, the “Mueller should be allowed to continue, honorable man’ b.s.

          I think they said give our members (Republicans in H and S) a politically acceptable excuse, and enough R’s will vote for impeachment, in the House, and conviction in the Senate, early on.

          So, wouldn’t count on the Senate to block actions against DJT in the house.

          For instance, IF POTUS had fired Mueller, that would have done it.

          Especially with the ‘old’ Senate. ALL dems vote to convict, and Corker, Flake, Collins, Merkowski, and probably several others.

          That we have a ‘new’ Senate, isn’t what reassures me, so much as that the political calculas has changed.

          And, VSG didn’t fall into the trap of firing Mueller, or Rosie or Sessions (until he got the signal from McConnell and Graham that it would fly), and then only Sessions.

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      • msAnnThrope says:

        My opinion. We the people.let President Trump down on 11 6 2018. We don’t deserve this man. Especially egregious is West Virginia who gladly took the new jobs POTUS brought to the state but then voted in the man who voted against Trump every time Schumer told him to.

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        • Red says:

          Yep, I feel exactly the same way, we let him down big time! I’m still livid at those who he brought jobs back to that voted Dimm….They knifed him in the back! I will not get over this!

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          • Remington..... says:

            Red, that one hurt…defies logic. ‘ Just finished watching that movie Tombstone for billionth time. At the end when Wyatt sorts out the remaining cowboys I could not :help thinking we should do the same in DC…..A reckoning….a lost art.

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        • Sugarhillhardrock says:

          My wife and I delivered 7 voters for Trump’s man in our town in the 1st 5 minutes the polls were open.

          We talked among friends to promote the needed majority. We spent money to support candidates.

          I can’t influence West Virginia, but I’m really sick of being blamed for not doing enough for Our side.

          I’ll bet almost all Treepers are most definitely not the problem. We are the problem solving tax payers that Washington hates because we are a threat to their disorder.

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        • Gayle says:

          Have pointd out MANY and NUMEROUS times right here that COAL COUNTRY did NOT let the POTUS down in WVA Coal Country counties voted STRAIGHT UP for Morrisey … it was the counties in the NORTH part of WVA who are in the DemonCrats pockets….especially behoven to the FEDS for jobs in FED Buildings put there by Robert C KKK Byrd …
          I wish to God people would STOP painting the whole state of WVA like you all have repeatedly did here since 11/6 … Again COAL COUNTRY did exactly what the POTUS asked and if some would take the TIME to LOOK and READ the election results posted at the WVA State Board of Elections it would be EASY to see why BOUGHT and PAID for MANCHIN won ….. he won by FEDERAL CONtRACTS in the State of WVA …. as SunDance would say RESEARCH before you shoot your mouth off with the WRONG shit …. it was ONE Senator who we came close by 3 points to beating .. a Senator who usually carried by 80% of the vote ….. Coal Country is STILL with POTUS but The WHOLE STATE OF WVA is not beholden to coal … again RESEARCH and Google as much as I hate is your friend
          Being from WVA I’m sick of this forum painting WVA and WVA Trump supporters as “letting him down” … we did not … we did EXACTLY as he asked. WVA is like any other state, Manchin is a LONG LEGACY politician in the state and he was an excellent Governor….regardless of whether you like him or not. He has also voted for a lot of Trump policy.

          Time to turn off the WVA hate … it’s sickening

          How many of you all made phone calls into the State of WVA to advocate for Morrisey? I did .. Its the easiest thing a person can do … the buck stops with the voters It is easy to cry Oh the bad people of WVA when many sat behind their basement keyboards all day versus getting to rallies, getting on their feet and hitting the pavement and working to make a change

          Just a viewpoint from the State of Wva

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        • Gayle says:

          Again .. you are welcome to go to the State of WVA Election report and look at the county map of the results. Coal Country went overwhelmingly for Morrisey … GAS Country went overwhelmingly for Manchin …. Gas and Coal are actually competing here in my state and some education on the state would be helpful to all of you all who think WVA is simply Coal …. it’s not Southern Counties who are coal country went overwhelmingly for Morrisey just as Trump asked … Northern Counties are tied to Washington with many Federal buildings, jobs, contracts and natural gas. Research before you paint the whole state as dumb asses

          I have repeatedly posted for the community to actually research the WVA results but again many choose to repeat a talking point that seems like liberalease to me versus looking at the election maps results at the State Board and seeing that Coal Country has NEVER let Trump down

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      • Amy2 says:

        All the more reason for him to hold back on un-redacting. It’s killing me, but he needs to hold it until he has the largest segment of the American people’s attention.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Which will be when the house has hearings to Impeach,….IF they do.

          And, while its very hard to try to think like dems, I THINK the leadership understand going for the big I, would be a big mistake. I THINK the leadership would rather hector the administration, for next two years with hearings, lawsuits, and obstruction every chance they get, …create plenty of material for their allies in msm, but NOT start Impeachment.

          Thing is, VSG’s ‘redline’, layed out in NY POST interview, didn’t say Impeachment. It said if they refuse to work with POTUS for the American people, (infrastructure, etc.) and instead have endless hearings and resistance, THEN he will hit them harder than anyones ever been hit.

          I would assume that means,unredacted releases of everything.

          But, we are all just speculating,…

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    • WSB says:

      Best to read the thread that Jack Posobiec is reporting.

      Unlike the thought yesterday that the redactions were old cases, Jack points to different ones that Mueller is pursuing against PDJT. They all seem hyped and are attempting to tie the Saudis and others to a grand scheme for PT to take over the US.

      Best to click on the tweet and read down the thread, so you can see where all of this is going.

      OANN is reporting this tonight.

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      • steph_gray says:

        Dan Bongino had what I think is a far better take than Posobeic on the redactions.

        Dan thinks the Mulehead team used them to cover up exculpatory evidence in Flynn’s favor because that evidence would make them look bad.

        And we know there was such evidence because the judge ordered Mueller to produce it – right?

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      • Liam Song says:

        Pos is a pos.

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      • cozette says:

        Just an FYI, Posobiec is a well know disinformation shill who uses his MAGA reputation to mislead Trump supporters and sow division among Trumps base. He is not part of Trumps circle but rather associated with paytriots like Cernovich who are cashing in on MAGA. Posobiec is also notorious for using unnamed sources. Since he is not part of Trumps circle why would anyone trust Jacks sources any more than they’d trust unnamed CNN sources? As Trump has warned us MANY times, do NOT believe unnamed sources. That being said, while I tune into Posobiec to monitor what the disinfo shills are pushing, I monitor Sarah Carter and John Solomon because their sources appear to be using them to signal whats going on behind the scenes. Bottom line, OANN is damaging its reputation by being associated with a scammer like Posobiec.

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        • WSB says:

          Didn’t realize. I have seen many interviews on OANN with Posobiec, and his guests are all named individuals, so I assumed he was on the up and up on this report.

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        • GB Bari says:

          We should never discount or underestimate the ability of the Deep State to stealthily maneuver artfully-disguised disinformation into the path of a respected independent (non-aligned with Deep State) journalist.

          Posobiec may have clean intentions but in some of his reporting may well be an unwilling and unaware tool of the DS.

          Just saying this is a possibility when he (or anyone like him) seems to shift his narrative.

          Sundance has cautioned us in his recent article about the motives behind mysterious or unexplained releases or leaking of evidence in the DOJ/FBI scandals.

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  16. Why did President-Elect Trump and his top people accept the Democrat (Insane Left of Obama/Soetoro) narrative? Why didn’t they calmly tell everybody Pence was replying in the negatvie about talking to Russians “who meddled”, and the ones Flynn talked with were not meddlers but appointed representatives of their country, which the Presidential administration of course must talk with?

    Why didn’t President Trump defend Flynn, since it would have been so easy to make the above simple points?

    And for God’s sake, why would Flynn plead guilty?

    These are of course rhetorical questions, however sane, even mundane. The answer is, Trump listened to his advisors, who have screwed him, and America, at every point.

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    • WES says:

      Harry: I suspect that the already in place White House counsel likely played a big role during this early period of transition. They would have either been trying to play it very defensively or could have even been part of the insurance plan!

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  17. sDee says:

    It sure sounded to me like Lindsey Graham knew that the setup hinged upon the misrepresented content of recordings between Flynn and Kislyak, and that they had been leaked to the media with the knowledge of someone of high enough authority to “unmask” them.

    The smug grin on his face tells me that the person who requested the unmasking prior to leaking, and the person approving were known.

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  18. Doppler says:

    Question: what was General Flynn’s role / proximity to the CFIUS process approving Uranium One? His bios suggest a gap in the crucial time period, arriving at DIA immediately after. DoD would have a seat at CFIUS and DOI presumably would’ve been consulted on selling Uranium to Russia. Is it possible his newly disclosed cooperation had to do with U1?

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    • steph_gray says:

      Listen to Dan B’s podcast today if you want to know about Flynn and Uranium One.

      In a nutshell, Flynn knew what the Obammunist regime did , and they knew he knew, and they were determined to stop him at any cost.

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  19. And the porn star gets over 3/4 of a million $ from a Go Fund Me campaign while Gen. Mike Flynn loses everything. Our world is truly upside down right now.

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    • lemmus1 says:

      …the porn star gets nothing because Avenatti spent it …and both now owe Trump a court-ordered 350k in legal fees for the malicious lawsuit against him

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  20. Me says:

    Flynn made the call to Kislyak knowing that it would be listened in on.

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      Great article with fine detail, Sundance. Thanks for keeping us sane and on point in this insane, catch-22, swampy world. My head hurts and even a glass of wine doesn’t help, but thanks anyway!

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    • G. Combs says:

      I thought it was Kislyak who called General Flynn while he was on holiday out of the country.

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      • Jenevive says:

        IF Kislyak was the big Russian spy then why did the Dems
        invite him to the POTUS first State of the Union speech and have
        him sit with them?? Why were they associating, talking to a
        known Russian spy?

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        • Your Tour Guide says:

          Because they were introducing him to John Q Public.
          Before the call was made between him and Flynn.

          Much more damning if
          1. Dickerson asks Pence “the question”
          2. Flynn gets interviewed, after the call.
          3. The call is between Flynn and Kislyak.

          John Q Public ( the few that were paying attention)

          “Who was that Russian guy that Flynn called up?
          Oh, yeah. That guy that was sitting with the dems
          during the State of the Union Speech. And right
          after Obama kicked all of his fellow Russians out
          of D.C. Wow. This really looks bad”.

          See how this works?

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  21. Palmettoman says:

    Burns me up that if Trump hadn’t won, we would never have found out about any of this. Trump would have burned at the stake to the point that no-one outside the “group” would ever attempt running for POTUS again. They would have a lock on it for good.

    Every one of them should be tried for treason and shipped to Gitmo as domestic enemy combatants.

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  22. Franklin says:

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  23. Fred Ohr says:

    Conspiracy to commit sedition. Dozens need to be prosecuted including Ash Carter, SecDef and boss of James Baker head of the Office of Net Assessment, a Pentagon spook group that recruited Halper and Mifsud to entrap Trump campaign officials. If a Cabinet level member of the administration is involved, so is the former President in my humble opinion. I hope Bill Priestap rated out these people before he “retired”.

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    • Judith says:

      All these people know how wickedly smart our POTUS is. They know how much power he wields. They see the massive attendance at his rallies.
      They read all his tweets.

      For all these people to come after POTUS with both barrels blazing, right out the gate, they HAVE to know they are in SERIOUS trouble. Hanging by nooses trouble. These people are desperate and I
      think POTUS has them surrounded.

      Otherwise, it would be suicide for all these people to poke a sleeping bear like that. They *must* know they’re goners if they don’t strike preemptively and win.

      This is why I don’t trust any of them. Papa Bush’s New World Order has been germinating for years and 2021 was to be the Grand Opening.

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  24. Jeff says:

    I stand in awe, mouth agape. Who else – WHO ELSE – on the interwebs does analysis like this?
    Who else CAN execute a breakdown like this?
    Words fail me. I am not worthy.

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  25. Paco Loco says:

    We need an Eliot Ness lawman to bring down this web of conspirators.

    Liked by 2 people

  26. SpotTheSpook says:

    There’s so much common sense and clarity in all of Sundance’s articles and this one is certainly no exception. That leads me to assume that *most* people would be able to absorb the basic story and feel like we do about it regardless of party. But then again, I’ve spent much of my life overestimating overall common sense of the country. Praying for this audience to grow exponentially in the days to come.

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  27. deqwik2 says:

    Right after the above video ends, Sally Yates goes on to testify about not having the 302 with her when she went to the WH. She didn’t want to wait on them according to her. She only took her notes about a detailed report that the FBI had given her but did not take the actual report.

    Start at 10:00 mark

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    • TestName7 says:

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/05/occams-razor-michael-flynn/comment-page-1/#comment-6415358

      … No interest in checking visitor logs.

      taking her quotes as fact per SD.
      First guess is dipping finger in the waters.

      Dates missing:
      These dates are missing above:

      021317: Flynn resigned: per ddg
      021317-021417: priebus McCabe “discussions” supposedly. ( director blue )
      When exactly during the day?
      021417: page Strzok texts – launch 302 (I’m guessing after phone calls)
      030217: Sessions recusé: (per director blue months ago – I’ll never forget 302 – change this and you will accomplish >= half of what you seek)
      050817: Yates Testimony: per ddg.
      050917: Comey fired: per ddg. (= Yates testimony + <1 day)

      I did watch this:

      Good on Mr. Graham. 8:30 klobeshyur(sp?) and feinstein

      Ms. Yates "so that they could take action"
      (3 times repeated … more? Or less?)
      What action could she possibly mean?

      It obviously can't take long to doctor pencil and paper, but if you want to pull wool it seems obligatory to check what the eyes have seen. Then maybe wait; idk. Why not. What's the rush? What's the rush when the full faith and power is behind you.

      You do know this could all be happenstance and conspiracy thinking right?
      You would have to be naive to take the web as fact atm.

      Since it's all fun and games now (????), I will remind who it is neither fun nor a game to.

      I never have worn a uniform but I don't think for troops it's the flag; I think it's that the brothers will move heaven and earth to bring you back if you fall. Ashes of our fathers. An ash is especially important when you stare it in the face.

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      • TestName7 says:

        I mean …

        “so they could take appropriate action”

        Why would they want Flynn fired? Why would they not want to leave him as a punching bag in the admin after the leaks etc?

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        • deqwik2 says:

          To get Trump, they had to move Flynn out of the way for one.
          They didn’t like Flynn for two. Remember Flynn was Obama’s DNI & Obama fired him. Obama warned Trump not to hire him.

          If they let Flynn stick around, he may have figured out what they were up to. They were in shock that Trump won & was in CYA mode. Remember this was just days after Trump took office & the plan was to get Trump out of office as fast as possible. They needed to work their plan & Flynn was in the way.

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          • TestName7 says:

            Yes, interesting.

            Any detail on how he was in the way? Don’t share if it is unsalvatory. I am aware of the flurry-off-resignations procedure but it doesn’t quite fit imo.

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  28. Speculation: Ambassador Kislyak COLLUDED with the outgoing Obama Administration to set President-elect Trump up for impeachment … noting Obama’s 2012 hot-mic whispered collusion with Russian President Medvedev revealing his willingness to sell America out to Russia:

    https://therightscoop.com/obama-to-medvedev-ill-have-more-flexibility-to-solve-missile-defense-after-my-election/

    “FOX NEWS – Obama, during a sit-down with Medvedev in Seoul, urged Moscow to give him “space” until after November. The conversation was relayed by a TV pool producer who listened to the recording from a Russian journalist.

    “This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility,” Obama told Medvedev.

    Obama appeared to be asking Medvedev to relay this point to Vladimir Putin, who recently won election to return to the Russian presidency.

    “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense … this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space,” Obama said.

    Medvedev told the president he understood the “message about space. Space for you …”

    After Obama noted he’d have more flexibility in the future, Medvedev told him: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”

    RightScoop Summary:
    Sounds like Obama is selling out the American people, making secret deals with the Russians to dismantle our missile defense and make America weaker.”

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    • Rex70 says:

      I absolutely believe this, BKR. The Ruskie were already bought-and-paid-for by the Clintons/0 regime, so any of the Russian interaction with Trump’s transition team was part of The Insurance Policy. For sure and very obvious, and why Mueller/Rosenstein are indicting all of these Russia nobodies who will never be brought to American justice. The Russians are, without a doubt, part of the Clinton/0 Regime dog and pony show being produced by the sham Mueller crew.

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  29. Joey Buttafucho says:

    Some thing, some someone, some incident is gonna cause a thread to get pulled and the whole thing will unravel.
    It could be a big thing or a nobody or an accident but that is often how the universe finds balance.

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  30. spoogels says:

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  31. Trump Train says:

    yet they are all still breathing.

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  32. MAGADJT says:

    This entire thing is so stupid. Pence was asked if any member of the Trump CAMPAIGN had contact. Flynn spoke with the Ambassador in December. The election was over. There was no campaign; there was only an ongoing Presidential Transition.

    Therefore, Pence didn’t lie. Had the campaign been in contact, it would have necessarily had to occur prior to election day. Am I missing something?

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  33. jus wundrin says:

    Very well put together. Good job SD.

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  34. Canadatrump says:

    I believe in God and Justice. Never falter treepers, truth and faith will bring the lords will upon these fallen. As painful as it may be, and hopeless at times, people like PDJT and Sundance are slowly eroding their guise. In the end I would take 300 treepers and their conviction over 10000 brainwashed lefties in the last fight if need be, everytime.

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  35. sticknca says:

    Awesome summary. I see Yates as playing a much larger role than I originally thought. Her confidence in telling her story and never once ever looking at a single note leads me to believe that she is the sole composer.

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    • starfcker says:

      Good catch, Sticknca. I was thinking the same thing

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    • TestName7 says:

      She did though. I double checked from the video in a reply above.

      I did notice her look down, trained, manifold times. But she did have. Apage there. With highlights. Lucky for her?

      We must be careful with these things not everything is as it seems.

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      • Your Tour Guide says:

        Wikipedia “Sally Yates”
        bottom of page: “After the justice department”

        See where Sally went to work. Same place
        as Christopher Wray. See why YTG keeps
        bring them up?

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  36. dave casper says:

    AT least half our country doesn’t care about facts, truth , proof, they just don’t.

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    • mikgen says:

      So many questions I wished had been asked of Ms Yates, but this one is uppermost in my mind. When she said (roughly) “I wanted to make it clear that we did not acuse VP Pence of knowingly telling untruths (ca 4:30 min), why did no one ask her how she knew? Had she been privy to the conversations between the VP and the National Security Advisor? And even if Gen Flynn had tried to protect VP Pence during his FBI interview how did Ms Yates know that to be true.
      Fishy! Very fishy!

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    • beachbum31 says:

      and many of those same people don’t care to vote

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  37. Nigella says:

    Well done, thorough and scary… Is this America?

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  38. maiingankwe says:

    Trump wins the presidency, the hag loses. All of the players in the DOJ, FBI, CIA etc are scared to death they will get caught for any multiple illegal actions they partook.

    So to save their own sorry a__’s, they destroy Flynn financially along with his reputation. It’s not just him though.

    You’ve got to be plain evil to not only do what they did, but to be so willing to destroy people’s lives in order to save their own is beyond cowardly, sick, evil, reprehensible and so many other descriptive words we’ve all have thought or said outloud.

    All I can say is I hope and pray they will pay for their crimes and receive sentences appropriate to them. We all know that if they are allowed to get away with this, it will happen again. Who knows, maybe the next time they will actually win.

    I really wish I knew what the white hats have been doing and if they have been working all of this time to take them all down. It’s the ‘not knowing’ that is driving me nuts. I know it takes time to build iron clad cases and two years is nothing when it comes to all of the paperwork, interviews and so forth. I know I would rather wait so all of their “I’s” are dotted and “T’s” are crossed to prevent any of their lawyers finding a loophole or a get out of jail free card. I’m willing to wait for that, but if I could find out if they really are going after the black hats, I could wait easily and without all of this frustration. It’s the not knowing if it will be ignored and they will be able to walk, or if they are working on taking them all down.

    I also understand that if I was to learn, than the evil ones would know as well, and that surely wouldn’t help now would it? I wish I was psychic.

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  39. Doug says:

    I put this condensed timeline together to better help me grasp the sequence of events. I still don’t understand why page/stroke are talking about 302’s in February. sally yates was being briefed IMMEDIATELY after the Flynn interview.

    ;On December 29, 2016, the IC produced, and rushed to completion, a ridiculous document to support the false-premise. As expected the Obama action spurred calls between Russian emissary Kislyak and Flynn. The Obama IC were monitoring Kislyak communications and waiting for the contact. They recorded, and later transcribed the conversation.

    ;On January 14th, 2017, the content of the communication between Flynn and Kislyak was leaked to the Washington Post by an unknown entity; likely the leak came from the FBI’s counterintelligence operation and/or the DOJ national security division

    •Sunday January 15th, 2017 – VP-elect Mike Pence appears on Face The Nation.

    •Tuesday January 24th – Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn was interviewed at the WH by the FBI.

    •Wednesday January 25th – The Department of Justice, National Security Division, (at this timeframe Mary McCord was head of the DOJ-NSD) – received a detailed readout from the FBI agents who had interviewed Flynn. Yates said she felt “it was important to get this information to the White House as quickly as possible.”

    •Thursday January 26th – (morning) Yates called McGahn first thing that morning to tell him she had “a very sensitive matter” that had to be discussed face to face. McGahn agreed to meet with Yates later that afternoon.

    •Thursday January 26th – (afternoon) Sally Yates traveled to the White House along with a senior member of the DOJ’s National Security Division, “who was overseeing the matter”. This was Yates’ first meeting with McGahn in his office, which also acts as a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF).

    ♦February 14th, 2017, text messages – here is a note about the FBI reports filed from the Flynn interview. Peter Strzok asks Lisa Page if FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is OK with his report: “Also, is Andy good with F-302?”

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  40. Genie says:

    The timeline should include the January 5, 2017 curious meeting between Obama, Rice, Comey, Yates and Biden concerning the investigation into Russian election interference.

    On inaguration day, January 20, Rice wrote an odd email to herself: “President Obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled by the Intelligence and law enforcement communities ‘by the book.’ The president stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book.”

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    • Anonymous says:

      If Obama were a real leader (and serious about “by the book”), he would have asked for a briefing and probed on key areas of concern (in terms of if things were by the book). Just having a meeting, not getting into the details, and saying “do it all by the book and I don’t want to direct anything” is weasely. Implies he wanted plausible deniability. Wink, wink.

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  41. dallasdan says:

    SD and others have collected and both objectively and thoroughly researched the evidence of sedition by the deep state cabal and, in the aggregate, it is mountainous, actionable against specific individuals and institutions, and damning. Moreover, the organizational infrastructure supporting the co-conspirators has been proven to be systemically and criminally corrupt. It is profoundly disturbing that the President has publicly stated the fundamental details of the lawlessness might best be withheld from the American people. Unfortunately, justice on an appropriately large scale is a diminishing reality compared with the hopeful anticipation we have embraced for many months.

    Clearly, the depth, breadth, power, and toxicity of the swamp has been revealed, and the shot-calling monsters dwelling therein have a legion of servile followers who are committed by the seriousness of their own criminality to continue to the end their mission to defame, depose (if possible), and obstruct the President. Their successes embolden them.

    The governmental “system” has failed, miserably, because it is both broken and corrupt. The President and a handful of his trusted associates are the only barriers protecting the nation from the immeasurably harmful forces attacking it.

    I believe the President’s election was a miracle of divine intervention. I believe the Creator will enable our good nation to overcome the evil that attacks it from without and within, but not without suffering pain of unknown severity and duration. I can’t ignore His giving mankind the free will that enables wars and holocausts. My faith is in His mercy for those who love Him.

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    • TestName7 says:

      No he didn’t say that.

      You read to much into things yet ignore a tweet here and there when it suits you.

      He said:

      “It’s very, very bad”

      You can read it any way u like but that’s what he said.

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  42. leftnomore says:

    Of all the nerve of McCabe…a filthy criminal…to bust a patriot like Flynn for making a false statement.

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  43. beachbum31 says:

    This is REAL journalism. This is so damning to Pence IF there is justice for the slime Yates and Co.
    The byproduct is VPs extreme weaselry will follow him forever.

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  44. Wesley Baggett says:

    When is something going to be done about it?

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  45. Pyrthroes says:

    Channeling Gibbon, this reprise comprises the opening coda of DC’s “Decline and Fall”. Not that the American Experiment has failed –Trump’s eight years staves that off– but that radical decentralization of Federal Agencies comprising Rats’ administrative/regulatory Fourth Branch, their intrinsically felonious, seditious Deep State, will be defanged not in theory but in practice.

    Precisely on schedule, 72 years after WW II ushered in Big Gummint collectivist/Statism on heels of early 1900s’ infantile tax-and-spend “progressivism”, mass-movements’ tides have turned to trickles. “First comes winter, then comes spring”… dependent on fading media, having terminally debilitated Gen X and Millennial cohorts over half a century, Rats’ Clinton-Gangrenous axis with its insufferable PCBS cant will face the fact that Yellow Jacket hives are not confined to the EU.

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  46. william elbel says:

    Will Flynn finally be able to publicly speak after the sentencing about what he knows and the circumstances of his setup or did he agree to be quiet to minimize the sentence?

    I know what i myself in the same fix would do if it is the latter.

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  47. k4jjj says:

    There is no penalty or punishment in this life that can equal the eternal damnation the Almighty promises against these wicked liars. These scoundrels may retire comfortably but they WILL die, leave all their earthly comforts behind and face the Judgment from which there is no appeal or alternative leniency.

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  48. notunderwhelmed says:

    This country is ruled by an entrenched oligarchy. They spit on the Constitution and the rule of law. Tax payer money is their slush fund — often “hush” fund. With vote harvesting, CIA controlled media, and the two-tiered justice system– America is evolving into China. Thank God Madam Clinton was thwarted, but observe the absolute hell this administration experiences at the talons of our enemies.

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  49. hellinahandbasket says:

    Messages read verbatim by actors
    FBI Lovebirds : The Text Messages of Lisa Page & Peter Strzok

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  50. 6x47 says:

    I keep waiting for something to happen but all the action is on the Mueller Probe side. Zero/zilch/nada on the Spygate front. Or the FISA abuse front. Or the Uranium One front. Or anywhere else. Now there’s another QAnon acolyte on Twitter calling himself “Clandestine Rosenstein” – all about how Flynn and Mueller tricked everyone and ate rolling up the Clinton Foundation etc. More wishful thinking IMHO.

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