Mueller’s “Other Criminal Investigation” That Michael Flynn Has Supported…

There are elements who took the redacted portions of the Mueller sentencing memorandum, and the notes of Flynn’s assistance in an unrelated criminal matter, to point out a possibility Flynn’s “other criminal investigation” assistance, might be an investigation headed by U.S. Attorney Huber.

The baseline for that hypothesis would be: (a) Mueller would intentionally point to a criminal investigation adverse to his ideological interests; and (b) that Mueller’s special counsel team might also be willing to take down a team member of the administrative state in some sort blind justice quest.  Nonsense.

That is classic victim projection toward the abuser: if we just make Mueller’s team better sandwiches they will also target “their side“…. Yeah, no; it doesn’t work like that.

The special counsel team, all of them, have one directional focus and it is the same focus as written outlining the only target in their DOJ mandate of targets: President Trump.

So what is the “other criminal investigation” that Flynn is/was helping with.  Easy, the New York Times spelled it out today:

WASHINGTON — Federal prosecutors in Virginia are investigating a secret Turkish lobbying effort that once involved Michael T. Flynn, the former national security adviser, even as Mr. Flynn’s role in the special counsel’s investigation winds down, according to people familiar with the inquiry.

Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, had been handling the case and at some point referred it back to prosecutors in Alexandria, Va., who had originally opened the investigation, the people said. A veteran national security prosecutor is overseeing the case, and a grand jury has been empaneled to hear evidence.

Prosecutors for Mr. Mueller appeared to make reference to the investigation in documents released on Tuesday that enumerated Mr. Flynn’s cooperation in the Russia inquiry. The heavily redacted documents created an air of mystery about Mr. Flynn’s “substantial help” in several unspecified but continuing investigations. Prosecutors cited Mr. Flynn’s assistance as grounds for leniency when a judge sentences him on Dec. 18.

The Turkey case appears to fit as one of those inquiries because Mr. Flynn has direct knowledge of aspects under scrutiny. Prosecutors are examining Mr. Flynn’s former business partners and clients who financed a campaign against Fethullah Gulen, a cleric living in Pennsylvania whom the Turkish government has accused of helping instigate a failed coup. (more)

Nice and tidy.  No risk to the small group.

Always remember, the journalists, editors, narrative engineers and executives within the New York Times, Washington Post, Lawfare and corrupt intelligence apparatus are comrades.  They attend the same parties party together; go to the same concerts together; BBQ with each-other; exchange Christmas/Hanukah gifts with each-other; take vacations together and are part of the exact same ideological community.  All of it.

•Remember Adam Waldman texting SSCI Vice-Chairman Mark Warner about their joint vacation plans?  •Remember FBI Agent Peter Strzok texting with FBI/DOJ lawyer Lisa Page about barbecuing with his good friend FISA Judge Contreras?  •Remember FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and his wife having financial connections to McAulliffe?

This is how they roll; they see nothing wrong with it.  They don’t break the rules, because they make up the rules.  There is no conflict of interest in their mind.  This is just life… ordinary swamp life.  They know what each of them “intends”, so when any one of them intersects with the legal apparatus they know there’s no criminal intention.  They know each-other because they live with each-other, 24/7/365.

It’s a Big Club, and we ain’t in it.

Mueller, the team and not the individual, would never even think to investigate a member of their ideological community…. let alone outline in some document (they know will be well reviewed by the public) that any member of their community is in an adverse legal position.

They simply don’t do that.

If you accept the fundamental nature of the swamp you can avoid a lot of disappointment; and you can entirely dismiss a ton of opinion and analysis that is structured around a well-intentioned framework that inside this community there are honorable or virtuous people.   There ain’t.  Period.

Here’s a pro-tip:  If you want to honestly review DC outcomes… “The only time you ever be guaranteed to be wrong, is when you project good intentions”.

Robert Mueller, the team not the individual, has one central purpose to protect “their  people” and “their institutions“.

♦(1) Create an investigation – Just by creating the investigation it is then used as a shield by any corrupt FBI/DOJ official who would find himself/herself under downstream congressional investigation.  Former officials being deposed/questioned by IG Horowitz or Congress could then say they are unable to answer those questions due to the ongoing special counsel investigation.  In this way Mueller provides cover for officials.

♦(2)  Use the investigation to keep any and all inquiry focused away from the corrupt DOJ and FBI activity that took place in 2015, 2016, 2017.  Keep the media narrative looking somewhere, anywhere, other than directly at the epicenter of the issues. In this way, Mueller provides distraction and talking points against the Trump administration.

♦(3) Use the investigation to suck-up, absorb, any damaging investigative material that might surface as a result of tangentially related inquiry.  Hide any evidence adverse to their united interests. Example: control the exposure of evidence against classified leak participants like SSCI Director of Security, James Wolfe. In this way Mueller provides cover for the institutions and the administrative state.

In all of these objectives the Mueller special counsel has been stunningly effective.  He is protecting his people; he will never, ever, take action against one of his people.  EVER.

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173 Responses to Mueller’s “Other Criminal Investigation” That Michael Flynn Has Supported…

  1. pyromancer76 says:

    Sundance, unfortunately this clarity appears badly needed. Thanks for articulating it succinctly and with emphasis. Especially: “Nonsense” and “That is classic victim projection toward the abuser…”

    The ideas are so important, the awareness so crucial to all who support our Constitutional Republic and President Trump that I am underlining one section.

    “The baseline for that hypothesis would be: (a) Mueller would intentionally point to a criminal investigation adverse to his ideological interests; and (b) that Mueller’s special counsel team might also be willing to take down a team member of the administrative state in some sort blind justice quest. Nonsense.

    That is classic victim projection toward the abuser: if we just make Mueller’s team better sandwiches they will also target “their side“…. Yeah, no; it doesn’t work like that.”

    Thank you for the decisiveness and honesty.

    Liked by 21 people

    • pyro- EXCELLENT post and I agree with your takeaway from Sundance’s most brilliant essay. I don’t know how I survived (metaphorically) before I discovered the Tree House which has become my daily, go to source of information and commentary.

      Liked by 14 people

      • NUTHA-VYOO says:

        “…has become my daily, go to source of information and commentary.”
        Mine too!
        BTW, do you know who is pictured over McCabes shoulder above?


    • RM says:

      It is my firm belief that the ” deep state ” ( ie.. the embedded careerists) believe that they are unnoticed, can continue to sacrifice the elected officials while they continue their mission forward. I believe that they are wrong….

      Liked by 2 people

    • stephenbaze says:

      All accurate except for this “Robert Mueller, the team not the individual, has one central purpose to protect “their people” and “their institutions“.

      The main purpose was to create the many crimes to undermine Trump and protect Hillary and Obama and later turned into covering up their own crimes including Muellers involvement in Uranium One ! Mueller himself is one of the criminals and few seem to grasp that simple fact. The overall cover up was also for the lead up to the Mueller Russia sham and the undermining of Trump was icing on the cake at a later date ! Which of course is still in motion 24/7/365.

      The depth and numbers of all these crimes is mind boggling. But that is not a valid reason to let any of it slide. We must see prosecutions or USA is no longer a valid and legitimate country !

      Liked by 6 people

    • Sunshine says:

      I totally agree.


  2. milktrader says:

    Swamp Life.

    Ain’t it grand.

    Sadly, this hasn’t even approached a tipping point. It will continue until such time as it can no longer continue. After the last drop of blood has been sapped.

    In the big scheme of things, this is a natural course of events.

    Question your inner response. Do you want justice? Do you want things to just stop (they will not).

    Interesting times. Be present Treepers. Stay strong.

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  3. justlizzyp says:


    Liked by 3 people

    • fleporeblog says:

      I would hope by now that the majority of Americans that are part of the Trump Army would realize this. However, it doesn’t hurt to remind them the way SD did this evening. The only real chance for any type of indictments will have to come from the AG. Whether that is Whitaker or whoever is placed in that position by our President.

      Liked by 10 people

      • need24give says:

        Wouldn’t Whitaker have had to sign off on the Sentencing Memo and the redactions? I still hope in Huber.

        Liked by 2 people

      • justlizzyp says:

        I’ve been needing your optimism lately, flep! I think, though, that there is still a very thick cognitive dissonance wall that will have to be penetrated that starts with getting the media to actually report some of this stuff. If that doesn’t happen, anything an AG does will likely be presented to the unaware as some sort of dictatorial power grab.

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  4. “a secret Turkish lobbying effort that once involved Michael T. Flynn” could be the third investigation as well. Two is obviously “Trump-Russia”. But the “_Criminal Investigation” could be anything. FWIW “The Clinton Foundation” fits in the redaction.

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  5. Von Henry says:

    To be honest, I unfollowed people like Bill Mitchell, I’m getting lied to daily and i don’t need more of that.

    Intentional, or not.

    Mueller and his team have one goal, so once we come to those terms, nothing will be surprising.

    Liked by 9 people

  6. Laurie Churchill says:

    True that.

    Liked by 1 person

  7. Sentient says:

    Brilliant write-up, Sundance. I always thought Brennan was the devil. Looks like Mueller is the devil. They’re all demons.

    Liked by 11 people

    • Von Henry says:

      Mueller was always who he was.

      Liked by 5 people

      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        I have this sitting in a folder about him (before I got the hang of documenting everything with links):
        – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

        I wrote a piece today titled: “Robert Mueller’s Financial Ties To Russia And Other High Crimes”, at this link:
        with supporting links documenting the numerous crimes, for those of you that might feel so inclined.

        Mueller’s Russian Financial Interests With Links to George Soros
        Ahh, The Complicated and Shady World Of Hedge Funds…

        There are multiple open source articles available that prove Robert Mueller’s possibly criminal financial ties to Russia that supports the numerous “Conflict Of Interest” claims on top of the ones of Political Bias made obvious by the Clinton Crony Special Council Team he assembled.
        – – – – – – – – –

        JasonF says:
        April 26, 2018 at 8:08 am

        In the above comments, people have cited the article “Robert Mueller: Unmasked“, by Congressman Louie Gohmert. The article includes a section that partially explains what Mueller did, when he was the FBI Director, to make the FBI systemically more corrupt and incompetent. That section is especially important; it is excerpted below.

        Liked by 3 people

    • Grant says:

      If they believe they’re going to Hell… they wouldn’t care.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Eric C. says:

      Most importantly, given this, how can we make change? Or is the Republic lost?

      Liked by 5 people

      • AmericaFirst says:

        If SD’s assessment is correct – and I fear that it is – then yes, this nation is lost as a Constitutional Republic. When we have thrown out Blind Justice under the law for anarchy, which is what “social” justice (an oxymoron if ever there was one) is turning out to be.

        On this very forum I have read links to articles which stated that if the unlawful ever get over 5% then it is out of the control of law enforcement, it is simply too much. For our population to remain civilized requires a mostly law-abiding citizenry.


    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      ROSEY and Mulehead,
      The agents for execution of the insurance policy mission. Boy it’s crystal clear now who wears the black hats one rung down from the ring leaders.
      I guess we will just have to wait the two of them out, so that we can eventually discover whether any justice will be afforded to the 63 million of us who voted for this President.

      I think President Trump has already concluded there will be justice, his recent tweets about Schiff, Hillary, and Obama’s justice department are pregnant with knowing derision.

      As some one identified on another thread, the smart play is to avoid going first, so we will have to wait it out.

      I can wait.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Leaving says:

        After learning about how Trump operates, I’ve come to believe what you are saying: first one to flinch loses.

        Which makes me wonder if the anti-Trump forces can win by not making their move? IS there a statute of limitations on this stuff? Posters here have suggested it but I haven’t read any convincing.

        Liked by 1 person

        • G. Combs says:

          ” IS there a statute of limitations on this stuff?”

          The clock on the STATUTE of LIMITATIONS STOPS with an indictment.

          […]The phrase “statute of limitations” refers to the time period within which formal criminal charges must be brought after a crime has been committed…. Therefore, in most instances, prosecutions are barred if the defendant can show that there was no indictment or other formal charge filed within the time period dictated by the statute of limitations….

          The statute of limitations runs until an indictment or information is found and returned to the court […]

          Second, since October of last year a YUGE number of SEALED indictments have been laid before the courts.
          How many are normal? 1,077 per 2009 report

          July Update to #SealedIndictments 4,985 new 45,468 entered 10/30/17 thru 7/31/18 Avg: 5,052 per month Check out @lonegreyhat for stats on how many have been unsealed. Back-up files:</a. What's normal? 1,077 per 2009 report: ….

          (I am afraid that some of this has been ‘removed’ by google such as the PDF: “sealed-cases_2009 study. pdf” )


    • Brian Baker says:

      They’re not satan, but they run in the same circles as he does.

      Liked by 3 people

  8. Newton Love says:

    Mueller understands loyalty, but unfortunately for us, it is not loyalty to America, but to his co-conspirators.

    Liked by 12 people

  9. Palmettoman says:

    Criminals are gonna criminal…

    Liked by 6 people

  10. Diana Allocco says:

    I thought Eeyore mode was against protocol.


    • jeans2nd says:

      Eeyore mode? Or truth mode?
      Seems more like truth mode to me. Sometimes the truth hurts. But the truth is always best, is it not?

      Liked by 5 people

    • sundance says:

      We must first identify, and accept, the enemy.

      Liked by 19 people

    • steph_gray says:

      IMHO, an eeyore statement about this would be seizing upon the simple fact sundance states (that Mueller’s actions prove he is a villain – I completely agree), and then expanding it into some version of Mueller’s being invincible, with no way to fight him now or ever, so we are all doomed and might as well give up and cut our throats.

      Actually pretty much every eeyore statement devolves to “We’re Doomed.” I have many times thought of looking into purchasing the doman — could make some money maybe…

      Liked by 1 person

    • MakeAmericaGreat says:

      Eeyore — we’re doomed in everything, we’re going to lose, there’s no hope to defeat the Deep State (unspecific, ignores counterexamples, just overall negatively fatalistic).

      Truth — After watching things play out for two years, I don’t believe in Stealth Jeff. Nor do I believe that Mueller will prosecute any black hats (specific, evidence-based, not ‘generally’ negative but negative about one particular thing).

      Being honest helps people defeat Eeeyore-ism. If all is doom, then there is no reason for anyone to do anything. But if you can point out specific instances of wasted time (One-Letter worship, Stealth Jeff, Mueller is a good guy), then the people who might otherwise waste time on them can instead use their energies to win the larger fight.

      Waiting and hoping on Mueller is a proven losing strategy. Don’t shoot the messenger for pointing that out.

      As most recall, Sundance took time to weigh all the evidence before coming to this conclusion. Like most of us, he wanted to believe otherwise.

      But this is reality. And if for some reason it changes, and Mueller actually goes after a black hat, we’ll all be thrilled. But expecting it to change is living in a dream world. And telling people they believe in a dream world is a good way to help them succeed back in reality, where the fight is taking place.


      • Sedanka says:

        I agree with you, but feel more cynical about being able to pull people away from that dream world.

        Telling people that they believe in a dream world, rather than waking them up, makes many of them retreat to the company of others who believe in the dream world.

        Every time Sundance presses his points about Q, Sessions, the lack of “white hats” and so on, more longtime posters disappear to websites where they can discuss Q theories and the secret 4D chess of Sessions without their dream worlds being disturbed.

        Nevertheless, I’m glad that Sundance is cultivating a readership that prefers facts to fantasies. Even when the facts are unpleasant, like what Trump (and his supporters, us) are facing.

        Liked by 1 person

        • MakeAmericaGreat says:

          You make a good point. It’s easy to turn away rather than face what things are.

          It’s also easy to get overly down about things. But, the path to success begins with taking things as they are rather than as we may want them to be.


      • ladypenquin says:

        I get what SD and everyone else is saying. It’s been clear for a long time that the Swamp was deeper and wider than initially thought.

        But… having truths pointed out doesn’t give me (and perhaps others) the “What do we do about it?” “What happens now?” That’s where the discouragement comes in.

        In medicine, we look to solve problems. We get the diagnosis, and then devise a treatment plan, revising as needed, to remedy the disease/illness. Since we’ve been stripped of our original belief system regarding the success of POTUS, Sessions et al against the Deep State and draining the Swamp – I’m looking for the way out of the maze.

        If we’re still on the journey, and assuming Treepers are, where is the map? I’m not intending to be Eeyore, but it’s fair to ask honest questions once data is presented…

        Liked by 1 person

        • MakeAmericaGreat says:

          It’s a good point. I think, as Sundance says, the first step is realizing what the situation is in reality. Only then can a plan moving forward be made.

          None of this is fun to deal with, because we all want justice and want to succeed. I think it just takes time to let it all sink in, even though it’s kind of unpleasant on the front end, before the solutions come.

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  11. mj_inOC says:

    Not to worry, Fellow Treepers,

    Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
    ~ Romans 12:19 KJV

    … In due time; He is never in a hurry.
    Remember what we are celebrating this time of year. America is richly blessed.
    God plus one is a majority.

    Liked by 11 people

  12. BebeTarget says:

    You are absolutely correct, Sundance. And your analysis shows us the depth and breadth of what would have to be done to break up this cabal. I believe POTUS knows how to do it . . . and he will. He is a warrior who wins and that is why they hate him so . . . . they huddle together pretending they are on the winning side all the while shaking in their designer boots because they know the day they have been dreading is approaching fast.because They have never seen anyone like him, and he is all ours!

    Liked by 7 people

  13. sDee says:

    A wise corporate executive would tell us that it that once we knew one rat, the rest were was easy to spot – they laugh at the same jokes.

    Liked by 3 people

  14. Ivehadit says:

    So how do we protect America and it’s citizens from this?
    Don’t answer that.

    Liked by 2 people

  15. Mike says:

    This is why there’s a 2nd Amendment…

    Liked by 2 people

  16. Free Speech says:

    “Oh, I don’t think President Trump has any leverage on Mueller. They probably flipped Flynn and will impeach him anyday now. Ho hum.”,0,600,600


  17. Raymond says:

    Sundance, question, what do you make of the meeting with Mueller and the President just prior to his SC appointment? How does that fit in and what was the purpose ?

    Liked by 1 person

  18. Hello, Mr. Whitaker? AAG Whitaker, are you there? Your President, our Country and Lady Justice needs you know. Are you there? Hello?

    Liked by 4 people

  19. Curt says:

    Sundance states: “The baseline for that hypothesis would be: (a) Mueller would intentionally point to a criminal investigation adverse to his ideological interests; and (b) that Mueller’s special counsel team might also be willing to take down a team member of the administrative state in some sort blind justice quest. Nonsense.” Total nonsense. The variable here is that none of us really know what Huber is up to. Everyone assumes that he is investigating the deep state and their criminal activities. Again, no one knows for sure. After all, he was a Sessions appointee. What if Huber is actually cooperating with the Mueller investigation? Is that far fetched? Maybe not. We’ve seen the dumbed down white washed report from the OIG, Micheal Horowitz. Anything is possible in this scenario.

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  20. recoverydotgod says:

    “In all of these objectives the Mueller special counsel has been stunningly effective. He is protecting his people; he will never, ever, take action against one of his people. EVER.”

    I agree.

    …Which is why I wrote my congresswoman tonight with the link to Jeff Sessions saying he was investigating the leak of Gen. Flynn phone call to Kislyak…asking…If Mueller can recommend a sentence for Gen. Flynn, he can find the leaker…please make that happen.

    Liked by 2 people

  21. chojun says:

    Makes sense that Mueller would leverage Flynn to break up a lobbying/political consultant network that is arrayed against pro-Iranian/pro-Turkish-regime interests. It seems as though this incidental investigation won’t ultimately be a danger to Flynn but instead be his get-out-of-jail-free card.

    I sure hope that Flynn can get to freely talking on Twitter again soon like George Papadopoulos has.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Tl Howard says:

      I guess it’s asking too much for Matt Whitaker to go after the Podestas in a tit for tat? What the hell IS Whitaker doing? Anyone with educated guesses?

      Liked by 1 person

    • singingsoul says:

      I am disappointed in Flynn to allow himself to be used by a criminal cabal.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Ronnie says:

        singingsoul, those are my feelings as well. If what is reported in the NYT article is accurate about Flynn/Turkey, I’m really disappointed. I think this activity is beneath him.
        Many ex military are now seeking fortunes thru lobbying, dealing.
        Makes me appreciate warriors like Gen. Schwarzkopf who retired with honor and didn’t sell out. It’s a whole new world, I guess……..

        Liked by 1 person

    • WSB says:

      Here ya go, in caes you didn’t see my post upthread. Mueller, for whatever it is worth, is turning up the heat.


  22. Skippy says:

    Grand jury to hear evidence on Flynn’s lobbying work for Turkey: report
    BY JOHN BOWDEN – 12/05/18 08:46 PM EST

    Liked by 1 person

  23. CNN_sucks says:

    Very sad analysis, SD.


  24. I have to agree with Sundance ,about some “ SECRET lobbying for Turkey “? oMG ! Really ? Stop the presses ! How can there be SECRET lobbying ? – “former business partners” – who were they? ; certainly no Dem . Names for sure . Some BS case about who cares and some other poor schmucks, likely friends of Flynn, being pulled into mess . BTW I am having same feeling/ vibes about Huber and OIG report zzzzzz

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  25. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    “inside this community there are honorable or virtuous people. There ain’t. Period.”
    “This is how they roll; they see nothing wrong with it.”

    That is not the first time in history a large group of people, along with their “spiritual leaders” were entirely devoid of honor or principals.

    Matthew 27:15 Now at that feast the governor was wont to release unto the people a prisoner, whom they would.
    16 And they had then a notable prisoner, called Barabbas.
    17 Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ?

    18 For he knew that for envy they had delivered him.
    19 When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.
    20 But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus.

    21 The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.
    22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
    23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.

    24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
    25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.


  26. AJ says:

    The one good thing about this whole insider structure is that they only seem to attack other insiders and not so much the common folk. Trump is an insider now and he gets attacked because he threatened the status quo. But they haven’t attacked sundance, for instance. He is not a threat.


    • annieoakley says:

      Not so far.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “they only seem to attack other insiders and not so much the common folk.”

      Dr. Jerome Corsi was never a part of the campaign or administration. George Papadopolos was a low level volunteer that just happened to have some “qualities” that the “deep state” could exploit – which is why they used him for a setup/frame job.

      Michael R. Caputo was only with the campaign for a short time in the communication section (~4-8 weeks, if memory serves correctly) and resigned right after Corey Lewandowski was fired. As far as I know, Roger Stone was not around very long and had left before the first primary in NH. I don’t know if Mr. Stone was “officially” ever part of the campaign.

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    • James Carpenter says:

      No person whose toil might expose criminal deeds on the scale contemplated here should consider themselves safe.
      Safe from rogue investigation/indictment
      Safe from “accident”
      Safe from “heart attack”
      Safe from “robbery gone wrong”

      Liked by 1 person

    • WSB says:

      You have no idea.


    • aumechanic says:

      Your kidding, they’ve been extorting businesses and citizens for decades.


  27. alliwantissometruth says:

    Power corrupts

    Those with their hands on the puppet strings of power do not accept honorable people of integrity, which is why we have the political class and the media class we see today

    It’s also why political and media power is consolidated in very few tight knit locations

    It’s the club, and before entering, one needs to prove they’d sell out their own mother for wealth, power and/or ideology

    The corrupt and criminal behemoth that now rules the roost can only be defeated by an informed, united and free people, which they’re working feverishly to cut down to size with unlimited immigration, illegal immigration, refugee scams and the brainwashing of our youth

    This could very well be our last stand. We either open the doors of truth and the people respond, or we sink by the weight of our own foolishness

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  28. Gman says:

    This seems very simple to me, if I understand it clearly. Team Mueller has had problems with the Flynn prosecution from the beginning. How they got their evidence, etc. They postponed his sentencing at least three times. They need this to go away, but they can’t walk away from it without exposing themselves. So, they get Flynn to agree to a deal, they have something on him, Turkey, but they agree to no jail to settle the entire affair. Flynn is military, a team player, he and his family agree to go along in order to save what assets they have left, and his future earning ability. Others may not have taken this route, Roger Stone, Corsi, Papadopolous may be better off making a scene, but not Flynn. Wouldn’t surprise me if Mueller made a few phone calls to help out Flynn with future opportunities just to make this go away. Just my opinion.

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  29. Elwood says:

    “…several unspecified but continuing investigations.”

    Plural. He is helping Huber.

    Mueller was turned. He has been working for the good guys since the day he was appointed.


    • Elwood says:

      This doesn’t mean Mueller IS a good guy. He is just working for them.


    • Tl Howard says:

      And you have evidence of this, I gather? LOL.

      Liked by 2 people

      • singingsoul says:

        Reality as I comprehend what SD wrote is Mueller is not working for the good guys.
        Mueller is the cleaner for the big club.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Elwood says:

        My “evidence” is the same evidence promoted by our gracious host. It is naught but a reasoned consideration of the available information.

        What SPECIFICALLY has Mueller done that has caused real damage to Trump?


        • jeans2nd says:

          After the latest Russia-Ukraine incident, where the Ukrainian sailors were taken into Russian custody, Pres Trump cancelled the meeting with Putin. No other U.S. President would have had to do this. Every other U.S. President has been free to negotiate with the Russians. Pres Trump’s hands are tied, due to the Mueller damage done to Pres Trump.

          Mueller announced the latest Cohen indictments as Pres Trump was leaving for the G20 in Argentina, a blatant slap in Pres Trump’s face to embarrass Pres Trump on the world stage. That is not only REAL damage to Pres Trump, it is also real damage to the U.S.

          Shall I continue?

          Liked by 2 people

          • Elwood says:

            Nope. Not real damage. Real damage has to be something that lasts more than one 24-hour news cycle.

            Real damage causes erosion of the base.


    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “Mueller was turned. He has been working for the good guys since the day he was appointed”

      Dan Bongino did a great podcast about 6-9 months ago that showed Mr. Mueller was black as a chimney sweep covered in coal dust. I don’t remember the title or exact date of the podcast.

      But I do have this, which has received the endorsement of Judicial Watch (by sending out a link to it about a week after it came out):

      Robert Mueller’s Beltway Cover-Up
      By Lee Smith March 13, 2018

      By using the justice system as a political weapon, Mueller and his supporters in both parties are confirming what many Americans already believe: We are not all equal under one law.

      “….Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed him nearly a year ago to lead an investigation without parameters. That’s because Mueller’s job is to obscure the abuses of the US surveillance apparatus that occurred under the Obama administration.

      The fact that someone at the level of former FBI director was called in to sweep up the mess left by bad actors in the bureau and Central Intelligence Agency and other parts of the intelligence bureaucracy suggests that the problems are even worse than previously thought. And that means the constituency for Mueller’s political intervention is enormous….”

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      • Elwood says:

        I agree with you. Both Mueller and Rosenstein have done some bad things. They no doubt should be considered as black hats, but they are now working for the good guys (both of them).


    • Sherri Young says:

      I am an optimistic person, but not that optimistic.

      The arrogance that seems to swaddle swamp creatures such as Mueller is too warm and cozy to allow him to turn. IMO

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    • Zorro says:

      Are you saying that Mueller is in violation of his SC charter as defined by RR?


  30. dustahl says:

    Been out today, great read , all true, Sundance, People need to keep being reminded, and thus focused. Not off chasing, non issues that arise each day.

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  31. Brian Baker says:

    All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others.


  32. notunderwhelmed says:

    God bless Tom Fitton. He has done more to expose the swamp then anyone in any branch of government. We know what the abuse is — the two-tiered judicial system. The swamp is arrogant . They flip us off and continue their incestuous business as usual operations. They have the power — we don’t. Now we have even lost our ability to vote many of them out. It is totally illegal and totally rigged. Venezuela, USA.

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  33. John Hopkins says:

    The Alexandria case is not the one Flynn is helping with. Huber investagstion and Flynn is the star witness and think Hillary.


  34. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    Who knows what to believe anymore. Flynn the man we believed would help PDJT defeat Radical Islam has his hand in Erdegon’s pocket. RNC is hacked prior to midterms by foreign actors and their we find out Crowdstrike happens to be their security firm as well. PDJT
    will release the docs but then nevermind they are so damaging our minds will melt if he let’s us see them. White hat black hat Mexican hat dance who the F knows anymore.


  35. zooamerica says:

    The New York Times (owned by Carlos Slim) the Washington Post (owned by Jeff Bezos) and the rest of the old media are dying a slow death. They’re to the point of having to make up fake news just to make money. To the politicians and the people that surround them in the Swamp, a day will soon come when they are all removed from their taxpayer funded checks.

    Why people bet against Trump, I have no idea. He’s been kicking the Swamp’s Ass since DAY 1 of his Presidency. The efficiency of DJT’s administration is astonishing. The list of President Trump’s accomplishments is too long to mention. Winamins are President Trump’s fuel that fires his Presidential engine that is running full steam ahead and can NOT be stopped. They can’t stop President Donald John Trump and his fellow deplorable voters.

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  36. Margaret Berger says:

    I have said it before and I will say it again. These are cornered rats. They are fighting to the death. I just wish we could get one to turn on them. But first we have to have one law enforcement officer who is as outraged by their lawlessness as were are to use that weapon. Who dropped the ball on that page woman?


  37. Risin'Tide says:

    It would seem that a counter-witch hunt is in order with another SP (say Rudy G.) based on the several IG investigations. It should be broad enough to encapsulate the entire swamp so that you can pick off key individuals from DOJ, FBI, Mueller group, Clinton Foundation, Obama et al, House, Senate, media, K street (Podestas). Bring some charges and then have a legitimate cause to un-redact and you might see a few of these shenaniganists back off. Just throw a lot of flaming cocktails into the swamp and let them roar about it all so the public forgets about Mueller and the House loses steam on impeachment. Counter-punch hard with the same tactics while walking softly and carrying a BIGLY stick. For good measure, investigate Soros and watch them really howl. Cast a wide net and just smile, PDJT…


  38. Uncompliant says:

    As always, Sundance, thank you for your good work. I’ll restate slightly —
    “[Opinions and analysis will be flawed and false if they are] … structured around a well-intentioned framework that inside this community there are honorable or virtuous people. There ain’t. Period. … The only time you are ever guaranteed to be wrong, is when you project good intentions”.

    Thank you for articulating this because, here, precisely, is one of the larger points of skepticism with the qAnon phenomenon — so much of it is aimed at convincing us — reinforcing/confirming our biases — that there are “honorable or virtuous people” in the swamp who are going to “save” us or “save the Republic” or “help” POTUS do those things or something something and something else.


  39. Sunshine says:

    Domestically, it appears that Trump has no leverage and no allies. Admiral Rogers denied tipping off Trump at their Trump Tower meeting, which is consistent with the floundering we have seen from the White House regarding how to deal with this entire travesty.


  40. Ellen Lopez says:

    Like so many have suggested as an alternative interpretation, for which I pray: Mueller is a grey hat who is acting to protect himself and – thank God – the effect is for the good of the country.


  41. This makes me so sad and frustrated!!! How on earth do we little people even begin to clear out the swamp when half of America wants the swamp dwellers to stay right where they are? What catalyst is necessary/should I be watching for, to take definitive action against these corrupt people and reclaim our nation?


  42. Judith says:

    Ain’t it the truth about projecting our “good “intentions? We simply are caught offguard when people don’t think the way we do. People never fail to blindside me with the depth of their character flaws. But here’s the rub: Most of us never think of ourselves as truly bad, and neither do most bad guys. We all mean well.

    Humanity finds all manner of convoluted explanations to excuse ourselves from culpability. Yet most of us are guilty of the very sins we constantly project onto others.

    Maybe that’s why The Lord’s Prayer asks Him to forgive us our trespasses “as we forgive those..”
    If we don’t find a way to absolve each other of sin, we can never pull ourselves out of that Devil’s dance.

    Sometimes I wonder if we were made flesh expressly to demonstrate or manifest the fruit of our own natures. Then we spend the better part of a lifetime shadow boxing with ourselves.

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  43. Amy2 says:

    “The only time you ever be guaranteed to be wrong, is when you project good intentions”. Thanks for wrapping that up nicely. I have seen that play out many times. I will use it as a reminder. It will save me a lot of stomach acid!

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  44. chojun says:

    …and while we’re on the topic of General Flynn, has anyone else noticed how many Q followers that Flynn is in turn following?

    I’ve been observing his twitter activity for a while now – almost 8-10 months. He hasn’t said a word since Dec 2nd, 2017, but the subtle activity on his account tells an interesting story.

    For someone who has “flipped” and is “cooperating with Mueller against Trump”, he sure does follow and continue to follow everyday MAGA Trump supporters. Interestingly, an account called “Clandestine Rosenstein” (who advocates for the idea that Mueller/Rosenstein are grey hats who have been leveraged or otherwise struck a deal with Trump to assist in taking down the deep state. Noteworthy is the fact that this Clandestine Rosenstein account has been suspended about 2-3 times but Flynn has re-followed the account every time – most recently today after the account posted the following thread:

    Of course I will say that a follow isn’t necessarily an endorsement of any person (for example I follow a lot of people on Twitter who I think are complete morons).


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  45. ForGodandCountry says:

    “It’s a Big Club, and we ain’t in it.”

    Thank you, Lord, for that great favor and mercy! They are the doomed and the walking dead.


  46. pnj01 says:

    There IS a way to control Mueller The Person and The Team. It is called supervision.

    Mueller works for Whitaker. Whitaker can put a team of attorneys (not IG types but second-guessing prosecutors) on Mueller’s every current matter and make determinations on what he, Whitaker, wants him, Mueller,to be doing with all the very expensive billable hours Mueller is cranking out to such poor results (14 days for Papa and now 0 days for Flynn with no hint of Collusion found).


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  47. Impossible says:

    So I’ll toss this out with with full acceptance of criticism to my theorem: some of you know that I toil in the deepest depths of liberal academe… but still fight, day-by-day to convert, one-by-one, the deceived…

    Conservative Treehouse is the most politically astute source on the internet (thanks Sundance!) with the most informed (and decorum abiding) commenters as well (thanks posters)…

    My sense is that the, currently, the end DOES justify the means (sadly) because we have been forced to scum ourselves with the tactics of our enemies, so here’s my strategy —

    1. There is an entrenched corruption that we must be overcome to save our nation.
    2. You will never convince a disillusioned and covetous person (liberals) to choose the “truthful and rational path” (i.e., I can’t waste time on why our current President of these United States, is not the best thing that has occurred in 14 years…)
    3. Due to voter fraud we must not win 51% but, more likely, 62/63% of the vote…
    4. So, the solution is this: convince them that each entrenched politician is screwing them royally (it’s not that hard) and we can rebuild with neophytes (left or right). That’s my current strategy….
    5. They fall for it every time….
    6. We need to replace everyone in the system to save the system…

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  48. distracted2 says:

    The AP is reporting that the DOJ and Mueller are investigating illegal lobbying by the Podesta Group and that there has been a flurry of activity by the DOJ within the last few weeks.

    This would fall in line with the information Flynn would have supplied about lobbying efforts by Turkey.

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  49. paulmafinga says:

    Flynn was offered $15m to arrange for the fellow to be black bagged and flown to Turkey. Presumably the DNC countered @ $45m.


  50. CNY3 says:

    To Sundance: What is your secret to remaining calm in the face of the immense hubris displayed by corrupt Mueller et al? Do you see a positive outcome to all of this or only business as usual/DC corruption continuing? Thank you very much.


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