Sunday Talks: Bret Baier Interviews Saudi Minister Adel al-Jubeir About Death of Jamal Khashoggi…

Saudi Arabia’s Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir speaks exclusively to Fox News’ Bret Baier on the death of Jamal Khashoggi.  al-Jubeir calls it a ‘terrible mistake’ that happened at the Saudi consulate in Turkey and says those responsible will be held accountable.

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One theory is that Jamal Khashoggi held a strong alignment with Brennan-minded U.S. intelligence officials, hence his working relationship with the Washington Post. Khashoggi negotiated with Saudi for a meeting in Turkey because the Pro-Iran sketchy Brennan types have close relationships with corrupt Turkish intelligence officials.  After setting up the meeting at the Saudi consulate in Turkey and coordinating therein; U.S. and Turkish intelligence were closely monitoring the visit anticipating the outcome.

Brennan-aligned Saudi ideologues like ostracized Prince Alweed Talal; who use massive amounts of money to corrupt U.S. politicians and intelligence officials; coordinated an opportunity to strike back at Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman (MbS) through the death of Khashoggi.

This theory would explain the outcome and massive attention therein. See below:

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180 Responses to Sunday Talks: Bret Baier Interviews Saudi Minister Adel al-Jubeir About Death of Jamal Khashoggi…

  1. dustahl says:

    I do not care about Saudi Arabia, I do care about the U.S. border.

    Liked by 18 people

    • Successful Loser says:

      Care about them both, to varying degrees.

      Liked by 4 people

    • weareallandrew says:

      +1. The stunning LACK of reporting on NarcoTerrorist Beheaders operating in Mexico just south of the border, including kidnapping in the US – Phoenix is now called the kidnapping capital of the US by LEOs, is quite instructive. No mystery where the allegiance is at WAPO, to the network of MB and CAIR money that propped up Obama and HRC, not to mention the secret side deal baksheesh ValJar negotiated from the Mad Mullahs.

      What do you call one sect/subset/clique of Islamic cult head-choppers putting out a hit on another sect/gansta spy Islamic cult beheader?

      A good start.

      What should we do about it? Nothing. Sell more arms to both sides and clap loudly.
      Its called RealPolitick.

      Faster, please.

      Liked by 19 people

      • Don Krause says:

        What to do about it? One thing would be not to buy a hairpin on Amazon, the cash now that Bezosuses to keep that dirty rag afloat.

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    • LibertyVibe says:

      Saudi Arabia is experiencing a battle from within. MBS’ Deep State is fighting back. Koshoggi was a consequence of that struggle. Not our PROBLEM! (although MSM is trying to make us think it is.)

      Liked by 23 people

      • Well if the clerics take over SA instead of the Sauds family it will be our problem one way or the other.

        Liked by 11 people

      • Toenail says:

        MSM and a few worthless GOP sellouts like Rand Paul. He is sure that the Prince knew what was going to happen. With friends like him President Trump sure doesn’t need enemies. Whatever Rand Paul knows he cannot know for sure unless he was there. Anyone with a grain of prudence and honesty would keep their mouth shut. One thing that happens when President Trump is at the helm, real enemies of the people are clearly identified.

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        • GB Bari says:

          Very curious how quickly Graham and Paul (and a few other Congress critters) have proclaimed MbS “guilty” before allowing the investigation process to work through.

          This is very hypocritical of Sen. Graham (and Sen. Paul) who came to such a stirring defense of Judge Kavanaugh and decried the Democrats “guilty before proven innocent” attitudes. Either Graham and Paul or someone here via the Deep State have received irrefutable proof that MbS was involved, or they received false, fabricated “evidence” that MbS was involved (highly likely) and are unwittingly making a significant mistake in judgement.

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          • singular says:

            Just the kind of thing Graham likes to do, I will never trust him.

            Liked by 2 people

          • marywilbur says:

            Or they have a visceral dislike of Saudi Arabia so instantly jumped to their biased conclusions.

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          • anthonydog says:

            Was Graham’s “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” moment in the Kavanagh hearings nothing more than electioneering Kabuki.

            Yes, Graham is no different today than we was under McCain …though he does not want to lose the power of the majority he enjoys–particularly as he waits in the wings to lead the Senate Judicial Committee.

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            • GB Bari says:

              Was Graham’s “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” moment in the Kavanagh hearings nothing more than electioneering Kabuki.

              No. Graham really wanted Kavanaugh on the SCOTUS. As did McConnell and most other RINOs. That is one of a very few policy areas where RINOs and Conservatives (and PDJT) actually agree.

              Grahams tirade against the Democrats was genuine and straight from his heart and gut. But that performance was about Brett Kavanaugh and potential future SCOTUS candidates, and not much else.

              However Graham has since made very strong public statements in the media that are unambiguous and in support of PDJT on other policy matters, so IMHO he absolutely has moved to the right a bit since McCains demise.

              His RINO / NeoCon-influenced knee-jerk reactive statement’s about MbS re. Khashoggi were not indicative of that slight rightward move, but let’s see what he says when the facts are finally made known.

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      • Christopher A Wright says:

        Is our prob now. We need to do what MbS asks.

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      • Bird Watcher says:

        One of our enemies kills another of our enemies. At this point, what difference does it make?

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      • marywilbur says:

        I absolutely agree. Saudi Arabia has it’s own Deep State that hates MbS.

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      • fabrabbit says:

        Yeah, not our problem. Frankly I think “who the H_ll cares?”

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    • David R. Graham says:

      What’s that saying about someone opening their mouth and removing all doubt . . . ?

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    • Call me cynical, but the Koshoggi thing happens just before the caravan thing, allowing the MSM to focus almost entirely away from the caravan and on Koshoggi, a far left liberal Washington Post reporter who resides in the US, but is a Saudi National. I don’t think the Kennedy assassination got as much continuing coverage in the media as Koshoggi. Meanwhile, the caravan keeps moving Northward.

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      • marywilbur says:

        Are you kidding? The Kennedy assassination was all there was on tv (3 networks in those days) and then on live tv Jack Ruby shot & killed Oswald. It seems like right on the heels of this Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated. Those were scary days for this teenager.

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        • churchmouse says:

          ‘It seems like right on the heels of this Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated.’

          Not to me, and I was alive then, too.

          JFK assassination: 1963

          MLK assassination: 1968

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          • sat0422 says:

            Robert Kennedy was assassinated somewhere in between…….

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            • churchmouse says:

              Nope. He was assassinated in June 1968, two months after MLK was.

              I remember where I was when these three events took place, and I was only a child then.

              1968 was an alarming year on many levels. The riots surrounding the Democratic National Convention in Chicago took place that summer. No wonder Nixon won the election.

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      • fabrabbit says:

        Yeah, the coverage is overboard. MSM didn’t get this exercised when Ambassador Stevens and the three other Americans were killed.

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  2. Sundance, I think your theory is SPOT ON.
    Explains everything.
    Particularly the highly-coordinated Guilty-before-Evidence hit job on MBS, not to mention the unison cry to cancel the Saudi Defense Contracts.

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    • weareallandrew says:

      Concur. The M.E. is circles within circles that makes the US Mafia look like babes in the woods. We typical American laypeople and the Elite who pretend to KnowWhatsBestForUs dont even know what we dont know. Past failures of US intel, especially in the CIA and FBI (see 9/11) dont inspire my confidence we know more at that level, either.

      As to the Left-Progressive-Propaganda Media, controlled by Ben Rhodes network of 27 year old know-nothings…to include NYT, WAPO, CNN, MSNBC, and their echo chambers – Politico, Vox, PuffHo.s…well, google Gel-Mann effect, to be generous.

      TLDR- The Boston Globe (red-headed stepchild of NYT) cant even do the math on fractions for Liawathas DNA test…no surprise given they are communications majors and j-school grads.

      Just dont ask me to pay much attention to their reporting on anything else, except laughing at how they investigate teh lint in their belly buttons, and their faux outrage over their pet doggie, Khashoggi the MB terrorist and OBL buddy, is yet another example for why we Normals Now Ignore The Fake Press.

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      • scott467 says:

        “Past failures of US intel, especially in the CIA and FBI (see 9/11) ”

        ______________

        What if those were not past failures of US intel, but past successes?

        No matter how much we learn about the outright evil and corruption of our own alphabet agencies, the impulse is to always give them the benefit of the doubt, as if they’re just bumbling Clouseau types.

        They have the best equipment, training and access to intelligence information in the world. And yet all their ‘mistakes’ are constantly in one direction… just like Hussein.

        If it was sheer incompetence, they would get something RIGHT every once in a while, just out of luck.

        Just like Hussein, everything they do is to our detriment.

        That’s not coincidence, or incompetence, and never has been.

        It is willful, purposeful, premeditated action.

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    • Tom says:

      This is the most blatant case of cultural projection I have ever seen. Obviously the Saudis considered this guy guilty of treason. They executed his sentence on their own territory. I don’t see what the problem is. News Flash, their system is different than ours. Diversity is good, remember Liberals.

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      • Charlotte Curry says:

        It was definitely a planned coup by Khashoggi and the Muslim Brotherhood mafia to take out MBD.

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        • Or by the Global Deep State to sacrifice K to take out MBS.
          (Post below)

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          That’s an interesting idea – that Khashoggi performed as an “information suicide bomber”. It’s possible, although I still think he was a CHUMP. That fakey-fake “fiance” of his stinks to high heaven. I’m calling him the chump, and I’m calling her the chump-whisperer. I am POSITIVE that she sweet-talked him into taking the risks needed on HIS side by the plotters to construct the scenario.

          There should be a matching chump on the other side that was used to walk the Saudis into the trap, as well as forces that fooled the person, but it could be almost anything and anybody – even just plain bad intelligence on Khashoggi, delivered by devious or deceived forces on OUR SIDE.

          I believe part of the motive is 9/11 cover-up. I think Khashoggi KNEW SOMETHING that not only helped him leverage his way around in the world – it helped get him killed. This obeys the “economy of events” principle – the idea that the people who construct these propaganda events always use the events to accomplish multiple goals, and a very common one is to close out loose ends in addition to the political payload. Obtaining multiple desired outcomes simultaneously allows each competing “reason” to cover up for the others – which is total genius in disinformation.

          When I learned that Khashoggi was close to UBL in the time frame that I believe Beelzebubba and his globo-socialist backers were setting up 9/11, it all clicked. This would be why Brennan and the Hillary-beholden media have so much investment as well. I suspect that everybody is calling in the chips on each other to create a bail on 9/11 justice. Like Hillary said – they ALL hang by nooses if they don’t get out of it, so people are taking risks to stop VSGPOTUS.

          This Khashoggi thing is going to backfire BIG-TIME on the plotters if a critical mass of facts emerge.

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          • marywilbur says:

            FACTS are missing.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              Gotta be patient. If people know where to look, they’ll find the holes in the plot that the globalist-Democrat-media script-writers prepared for us. At the rate it’s falling apart already, I’m expecting it to get worse.

              It’s like Parkland. I was pretty certain there was a LITERAL stand-down, based on the timing of events in the initial reporting. Sure, people yelled “conspiracy theory” at me, but I stuck with it, and eventually the facts came out. People need to know where to look. Once they do, they will find the proof.

              Things started looking sketchy with this thing almost immediately. Just look how the fast-out narrative (the way these creeps always set things up) starts falling apart right on time. The sketchy “fiance” who turns out to be awkwardly fresh, unknown to the ex, allegedly holding the impossible iPhone, and hardcore MB. LOL! REALLY. Or the “journalist” himself, who turns out to be almost anything BUT a journalist for his whole life until his weird WaPoCia gig. The recordings that can’t actually BE the face-palm “parallel construction” of an Apple Watch that they claimed. It’s all so BAD. But they’re desperate, so it makes sense.

              Be patient. LOTS of room for this to fall even further.

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              • anthonydog says:

                Agree. Thought the same because Khashoggi goes back to 911 with his close associates OBL, Bandar Bush, bin Talal, and John Brennan.

                We know John Brennan processed the 911 terrorists visas though KSA over the objections of others at his station. Iran was complicit as they were not stamping the 911 terrorists passports as they went through Iran in order to keep those terrorists passports clean.

                Bin Talal, the Whabbist and OPEC don has been Obama’s patron since his Occidental days….somewhere Al Monsour, aka Don Warden –Black Panther fits into the scheme. Al Monsours family tells his last whereabouts were suddenly into the Ukraine. Keep in mind that Pacepa recently told that he believes “Obama is Kremlin Intel.”

                Saudi Ambassador Bandar Bush was in touch with the 911 terrorists through his chauffeur and his wife as emails and money transfers proved. Bandar Bush then became head of Saudi Intel…

                Obama is deep in this treasonous mess ….His Dunham family CIA connections married into the Saudi royal family, his longtime associations to Al Monsour and bin Talal since the 80’s, …his mysterious trip to Pakistan in the 80’s …and his deep connections to the ugly evil Islamo-Communist daddy-war-bucks John Brennan ..all reek to high hell..

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  Thanks for that. Wow. The pieces on this sucker are starting to fly together and line up like MAGNETS.

                  I’ve got it down to TWO people. If Brennan had TWO operatives – one the sketchy girlfriend, and one key player in Saudi intelligence who either killed Khashoggi or manipulated the guy who did – with the key point being to MAKE SURE KHASHOGGI DIES – then it’s almost a sure thing. It all depends on the cover up. As long as the Prince is a chump like Nixon and covers up instead of coming clean, the plot works.

                  I’m thinking Brennan is back to using contractors like he did on his APPROACH to the White House with Obama (the old Montgomery days). He would have all the resources of the CIA without a trail.

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              • judyw says:

                Could this man be Khashoggi? It appears to be him, in a video posted to Twitter on October 12, 2018 by The Hill. He enters the frame at 8 seconds and appears to be rushing, perhaps trying to catch up with the convoy. His beard appears dyed.

                This post in the link below is a chronological review of some of the direct evidence
                and documented timelines in this case.
                Jamal Khashoggi Is Very Much Alive and Well and In A Video By The Hill
                https://www.dannielleblumenthal.com/2018/10/jamal-khashoggi-is-very-much-alive-and.html

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  I tend to think that the Saudis would never admit to killing this guy if they had any idea that he was alive. However, the Prince and people in Riyadh likely have a lot of separation from the embassy, so a highly complex sting is POSSIBLE, theoretically. However, I’m thinking that’s a lot less likely than the guy dying. This guy had to know a lot of stuff that would be bad for Brennan. Economy of Events principle says they would close him out, so that’s where my money is.

                  I’m now operating on the principle that Brennan and Comey are still effectively running LARGE amounts of CIA and FBI resources. The Obama REGIME is fighting to hang on. Obama’s globe-trotting out-of-office diplomacy has MEANING.

                  Keeping a witness/plot-danger alive (because that is what “live” Khashoggi would be if he was allegedly dead) just makes no sense for people as evil as these guys really are. They need him dead, so he’s dead, IMO.

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          • judyw says:

            Wolfmoon1776, Evidence exists that the fakey-fake “fiance” was photoshopped into this photo used by CNN and WaPo
            https://i0.wp.com/herald.report/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screenshot_20181017-174341_Twitter.jpg?resize=469%2C1024&ssl=1
            The fabrication of the photo is clearly an attempt to try to prove what is really a nonexistent intimate relationship between Khashoggi and Hatice. The main propaganda tool is Hatice. The MSM is using her to attack the Saudis. If the world stops believing she is his fiancé the world will have a very different opinion regarding the Khashoggi case.

            The evidence against Hatice claims of being Khashoggi’s fiancée are abundant. First Khashoggi’s son Abdullah was with his father for two weeks before he disappeared, and he never mentioned her even as a friend. Additionally, there are no photos of a celebration of their engagement. Furthermore, we could not find any pictures of her showing an engagement ring on her finger prior to his disappearance. Lastly, we couldn’t find any photos of them together alone in the same picture.

            After conducting a thorough analysis of the conversations between Khashoggi and Hatice on Twitter, our team found that Hatice had mentioned Khashoggi 10 times. Khashoggi only replied once! Furthermore, in her tweet, she says she was going to celebrate his 60th birthday on the 13th of October when in his passport it states that he was born in January, 1958
            Read More: https://herald.report/how-to-kill-a-fake-fiancee-the-khashoggi-case/

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              There is definitely a lot of sketchiness there. All manner of things are possible. But in ALL of the potential and very likely theories, she is deceiving US and she undoubtedly deceived HIM.

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              • anthonydog says:

                Wolfmoon1776, Al-Jubeir is far more. In 1987, Al-Jubeir began his service as Special Assistant to then Ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan.

                Al-Jubeir took over as Saudi Ambassador to the US when Bandar moved on. That puts Al-Jubeir squarely in the anti-American Whabbist camp of Khashoggi, OBL, Bandar, bin Talal, Al Monsour and Brennan. Interestingly Al Jubeir worked with Jimmy Carter to turn over the Panama Canal.

                Nothing Al Jubeir says should be trusted. Nothing.

                I would assume Jubeir stands against MBS and his less radical views. Al Jubeir is likely part of Brennan’s Operation. Assume they fear the unraveling of 911, the Vegas shooting, and the many schemes put in play by the Clinton’s, Bushes, Obama et all.

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              • Judy Whelan says:

                I agree, deception is everywhere and it is so overwhelming to untangle….appreciate your thoughts Wolfmoon1776….

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      • sat0422 says:

        How did Kash-hogg get to Turkey? If he went of his own free will, then he is just a tourist or a participant and knew who he was going to visit. Not our problem.

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    • David R. Graham says:

      Concur. Sundance’s theory also explains why reports (I know fake news, but truth can be teased from any of them) have Mr. K entering the consulate cheerfully, expecting to return to his girl with a divorce degree. He was ambushed and the “fight” would have been between Turkish IC, possibly with Agency help, and Saudi staff.

      But Mr. K was on the Turkey/Iran/Agency/Alwaleed side. So this would be a double-blind old IC trick: kill one of your own and to make yourself look good and your enemy look bad by pinning then deed on your enemy. Am I tracking this accurately? Hasn’t someone already suggested that POTUS Trump done it, one way or another?

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    • Fools Gold says:

      Agree, it’s sorta like Hillary hollering Trump collusion that she planted…

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  3. Publius2016 says:

    Same MO as Las Vegas…Deep State plant for maximum damage…difference is no one cares about Saudi WaPo “Journalist” who’s gunning running spy…will Bin Talal face justice???

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  4. Publius2016 says:

    How many in Saudi Turkish Consulate actually support Crown Prince and reforms??? Mostly hard core believers who work for Bin Talal and Four Seasons…

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    • singingsoul says:

      If Brennan was involved in all of this he should be held accountable. The woman ( do not remember her name) who is now the head of the CIA where is she and hopefully the people work for her not Brennan?
      I also hope she is clean and has the best interest of the US..?

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      • Q&A says:

        Gina Haspel. CIA Director. Hand picked by Pompeo to succeed him.

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        • Electra says:

          Gina Haspel. CIA station chief in London during the same period that the Five Eyes were running spies against the Trump campaign. She has also been frequently described as an acolyte or protege of John Brennan.

          Mike Pompeo is not infallible, and the swamp runs deep.

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          • Heika says:

            Correct Electra. Good to remind all on this. Dirty dirt, swampy mud – all of them, protecting their inner sanctum. Just think Wray, think Sessions, and there you have all that one needs to know about ‘the beltway’. An endless conveyer belt that runs down into that putrid swamp (Washington DC) and out again into the world – assuring a constantly infected system.

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  5. I care about bin Laden’s best friend just as much as the Deep State cares about Kate Steinle. Exactly as much.

    And this still stinks like he was sent in there on a suicide mission to try to wreck the alliance, cancel the arms deal, hurt Israel, help Iran. blame Trump, help Erdogan’s Muslim Brotherhood Caliphate dream, etc,, etc. etc.

    True believers volunteer for such missions all the time and he was one all his crooked life.

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  6. rumpole2 says:

    Palace intrigue in Saudi Arabia is as it is.

    Nowhere near as bad or complicated as the nonsense still going on in Washington deep state.

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  7. Red Tsunami! says:

    Bozo and HRC were aligned with the Alaweed faction in SA, they were ruling SA from 1990’s at least untill early 2017 it would make sense that Brennen would be involved in the creation of the current false flag. Jihad Khashoggi must have used WaPo as a cover for his treasonous activities.

    Also if US and Turkish intelligence (the good kind) were monitoring the meeting, PDJT must know the truth of what happened during the visit.

    SD, thanks for bring to light the connections.

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    • sat0422 says:

      Sometimes, I believe that Trump gets bad info. Just like him coming to MS to ask us to vote for Hyde-Smith….A anti-gun Democrat who voted for Hillary and he is led to believe that she is OK by the scum Governor Bryant and Company.

      The politics of MS have a sorted history and the other Republican run foul with the former governor Barbour. Since that time, he has been blackballed by the establishment Republicans in MS.

      The night Trump spoke, he never even acknowledged that there are two Republicans and one or two Democrats running for the seat. I believe if the had the whole story, he would have at least mentioned McDaniel. Good ‘ole boys like Bryant and Company have let their pride and revenge influence their politics.

      I am a 100% supporter of President Donald J. Trump and I can tell when he is speaking if he knows his material, especially when he is speaking in my home state. I’m sorry he went on stage for Hyde-Smith and pray that we don’t give this seat up to the Democrats. Gov. Bryant made a grave mistake in appointing he to the interim D.C. Senate seat.

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  8. rumpole2 says:

    I found this Saudi guy far more believable that Blasey Ford.. just sayin’

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  9. YvonneMarie says:

    That picture says it.
    Those two had a lot of cultural & political influence in Michigan due to greedy politicians & lazy local voters.
    Coming to a state in the rest of the USA if folks do not wake up.

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  10. rumpole2 says:

    At most.. tell the Saudis to “knock it off” and then move on.
    Enough already.

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  11. stablesort says:

    Get over yourself oh ye somber Bret, Arabia did not harm us. Now if you think there are some slight incompatibilities between Islamic culture and ours. you’re correct but late to the game.

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  12. GSR says:

    A foreigner, killed by foreigners and Neocons want to go to war.

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  13. I see Brennan’s fingerprints all over this… CIA…and rotten Turkey government who I do not trust at all.
    Interesting that it’s Brett Baier and not Chrissy Wallace…much better choice.
    Very disappointed in Rand Paul.
    Agree with Saudi it is none of our business who is the head of their country. That’s what surprises me about Rand Paul. I thought he was smarter than this.

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  14. James Street says:

    Thank you SA for offing the terrorist Khashoggi who was in the employ of the deep state.

    Liked by 12 people

  15. Jase says:

    They have acknowledged a crime took place and have vowed to bring the perpetrators to justice. Perfectly reasonable response and behaviour which should be accepted by all.
    As for Brennan/Rhodes/Jarret-Erdogan-Alwaleed? This confederacy of dunces would do a lot better if they stopped buying plans from the Acme Fiendish Plot Company.
    It’s a miracle the CIA survived Brennan’s stint in charge.

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  16. Rose says:

    Not surprised, it’s clear the media had an inside edge reporting facts before they happened, I would not be the least bit surprised that corrupt CIA agents were involved in trying to set up the Saudis using our corrupt media of course.

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  17. QCM says:

    Help me understand. Why do we care about a Saudi journalist killed at the Saudi Embassy in Turkey. He had a US green card, but still, so what!?!

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      Correction: He wasn’t a “journalist”. He wrote a few op-eds for WaPo but he was a political leader within the Muslim Brotherhood… friends with Bin Laden.

      And seriously, I agree, why is everyone giving a damn about a Saudi national killed in a consulate by his own people on Turkish soil?

      None of our business.

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      • lumoc1 says:

        “why is everyone giving a damn about a Saudi national killed in a consulate by his own people on Turkish soil?”
        Mainly because the media, which President Trump reminds at every rally that it is FAKE NEWS tells people what to believe, and then people opposed to MAGA are dying to find ANY reason to hate the USA. If with above group you include also natural imbeciles, that should cover the majority of people caring about Khashoggi’s demise. 😉

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      • rayvandune says:

        When you are desperately eager to smash Trump, everything looks like a club.

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      • anthonydog says:

        Perhaps Khashoggi was CIA under Brennan.

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  18. To sum things up …
    There’s ZERO possibility of an investigation we could trust in.
    • Don’t trust Ertogan’s Turkey with their incarcerations of Christians.
    • Don’t trust the American Media with their Kavanaugh Kangaroo Court.
    • Don’t trust the FBI or DOJ with their attempted Coup.
    • Don’t trust the American Deep State or the Mideast Muslim Brotherhood.
    • Don’t trust the Saudi Terrorist Financiers that MBS has been taking down.

    To boil it down …
    There’s ZERO reason to spend an American dime or risk an American life on a dead Saudi Exile.
    If WaPo’s Bezos wants to spend his money or risk his people on it, have at it.

    #IdontCARE 😆

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  19. Joyce says:

    The question is still why so much concern about this Saudi citizen but none for our own citizens? Oh yes, I remember – anything to undermine our president and his agenda. More collateral damage that mean nothing to the dims.

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    • scott467 says:

      “More collateral damage that mean nothing to the dims.”

      _____________________

      If I understand events of the past week correctly, it appears that the dims, by consensus, prefer to be called non-player characters.

      Or NPCs, for short.

      They really seem to like it…

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  20. Piggy says:

    What’s the US interest in a dead pseudo-journalist? Why are US Politicians (Graham, Corker) asking for action against another country for a dead pseudo-journalist while saying nothing about the dozens of dead journalists in Mexico? Was the dead pseudo-journalist a US asset? Why are they wasting everyone’s time with this and it has nothing to do with the US? Why do they think regular Americans care about this?

    The Arab Middle East is one giant suck hole. Most of the Arab “leaders” pay to influence our politicians, but we are the ones who really pay.

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  21. trapper says:

    So, anti-MbS/ pro-Talal operatives lured their pal and fellow traveler Khashoggi into their pro-Talal controlled embassy in Turkey, where they murdered him, in order to blame it on MbS so as to damage the US/Saudi relationship, and to break up the US/MbS/Saudi relationship that is providing intelligence to the US unconnected to the 5EYES and CIA/Brennan conspirators? On cue, out come Brennan on CNN and Graham everywhere to spew their outrage and anger and blame MbS. Do I get this about right?

    I hate to say it, but it sure sounds like a Brennan operation, doesn’t it?

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  22. feralcatsblog says:

    On July 4, 1821, Secretary of State John Quincy Adams delivered an historic address on U.S. foreign policy. An excerpt follows –

    Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will recommend the general cause, by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

    She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself, beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force. The frontlet upon her brows would no longer beam with the ineffable splendor of freedom and independence; but in its stead would soon be substituted an imperial diadem, flashing in false and tarnished lustre the murky radiance of dominion and power. She might become the dictatress of the world: she would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit.\

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  23. kiskiminetas says:

    The interest in this is for the public at large to be interested in it as well. It was nothing more than a false flag, globalist, deep state hit piece which they implemented to weaken and hamstring Trump, no more-no less. There is nothing to see here but the same old dog and pony show that the MSM has been playing non-stop since his election. Never forget that the media was/is in on the take down of Trump, Us and our MAGA agenda. It is true what many people in the know say, that being these people are stupid.

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  24. rsmith1776 says:

    Sundance:

    “One theory is that Jamal Khashoggi held a strong alignment with Brennan-minded U.S. intelligence officials, hence his working relationship with the Washington Post.”

    Well, every death is regrettable, we’ll missed the dearly departed at some point to be thought about but, for now, LET’S MOVE ON.

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  25. mostlyogauge says:

    I haven’t read any of the lame stream media stories on this whole Khashoggi “thing”. I haven’t even read all the posts here at CTH. Has anyone, anywhere, offered any definitive proof that this Muslim Brother dude (I do know THAT much ..) is in fact dead? Any one seen Khashoggi’s body or parts thereof?

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  26. What are the chances that this was a Deep State Con just like their Papadopoulos set-up?
    • We have reports that the “fiancée” was unknown to Khashoggi’s family.
    • So who’s to say that she wasn’t a Deep State operative?
    • Who’s to say she didn’t tell Khashoggi that she had a Consulate contact with “dirt on MBS”?

    Deep State then tips the Consulate off that K was coming in to set MBS up for a coup, knowing the Saudis would immediately nab this “journalist” or worse. Narrative all pre-packaged with paste-it variations depending on outcome.

    K walks in, asking for the info that would “take MBS out”.
    • Saudi Spec Ops Team enters to apprehend him.
    • K puts up a fight.
    • Team takes him out.

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    • David R. Graham says:

      Maybe, I follow the drift of your argument. Q: then what would be the purpose of the planted news that he was going into the consulate, cheerfully, leaving his girl outside, to get cert of divorce? Also, how does this construction mesh with the “Deep State sacrificed K” you commented higher up this chain. Not doubting either, sure you have good reasons, just seeking clarity.

      I was thinking K was sacrificed by international deep state to Turkish IC (reinforced by Agency, etc.), but it is possible he was sacrificed directly to Saudi IC. But then why would he enter the consulate, and why the story that he did so cheerfully? Maybe the girl was in on the set-up, to have K ambushed? I should have thought at his age and experience level he would have smelled a set-up, especially on the girl if she was helping it.

      I guess I am wondering, who, exactly, executed the ambush? The ambush part seems beyond question now.

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    • anthonydog says:

      You need IslamoCommue Brennan in the mix.

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  27. Patriots Be Warned:
    Hillary2020

    This is rough comments… more to follow soon.
    Big Picture Strategy:
    1) I mentioned that Hillary withdrawing her Security Clearance instead of having it revoked was a serious “tell” of her future intentions to run for president again. I actually said this about 18 months ago.
    Hillary, Soros and their many cohorts they have devised a very sophisticated Strategic Plan to take down Trump and gain NWO Communist-like Power.
    Hillary is 80% likely to run for president in 2020 if Dems win House or Senate.
    If Dems lose both Houses of Congress Hillary may have NO option but to run for president with nothing to lose. She and her cohorts will use any means necessary to take control. She is under pressure from 100’s if not thousands of conspirators in corruption. There is a digital thread proof of all.
    If Hillary enters the race, the investigations will be ground to a halt. If she wins, it is over. She will claim protections as a Candidate for president and invoke Constitutional Immunity and a Political Prisoner Victim-hood just as she did as being a woman / misogyny. There will be little way to pursue prosecutions just by her becoming a candidate for president. She will most certainly win the primary as the Democrat candidate. The recent trial balloons stating “She is Running” “She is Not Running” are warning shots to other candidates and big donors.

    Hillary’s entire upper echelon is lawyers. They use Lawfare as a weapon, Local, State, National and International is coming. This is a well thought out strategic plan to create Fear, Anxiety, Create American and International Outrage and involve the UN and ICC if possible.

    2) The #InvasionForce coming toward our southern border is a major part of this plan.
    The #NWO multipronged #StrategicAttack on #USA to provoke International Incident & involve #UN & #ICC.
    Tump and DOJ must Arrest Conspirator Leaders who Organized & Paid for #AlienInvasion, not just put #USArmy on border.
    Any violent incidents that take place on the US border will be used against Trump and USA internationally.

    3) Etc… more to come.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/invasion-caravan-swells-to-over-7200-mexico-police-stand-down-as-illegal-migrants-march-to-us/ @gatewaypundit

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  28. litlbit2 says:

    Do not watch. Cut the cable. However, BB is such a swamp joke, give Tucker Carlson a wack at it!

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  29. Motzilla says:

    If Jamal Khashoggi [et al.] was so concerned that something dire may happen to him by going to a Saudi Embassy that he freely elected to go to the Saudi Embassy in Turkey rather than anywhere else in the world – then why did he go in there alone? Also, he lived in America, so why not go to the embassy in America? Seems like that might have been at least somewhat safer given ramifications and repercussions if such a thing happened within the USA.

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  30. All Too Much says:

    What does the Orb say?

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  31. WSB says:

    If President Trump posted that photograph on December 11, 2015, then our very stable genius knows a LOT!

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  32. NC Patriot says:

    I think it was an attempted coup on the young prince by CIA/ Muslem Brotherhood group. I think POTUS is aware of these facts. I don’t think he will trash the arms deal or the monarchy. He is treading with caution, as he values the role SA is assuming regarding Iran in the ME. Turkey is NOT our friend, neither is the MSM. Please tamp down the neocon Senators, POTUS.

    He is allowing the facts to come out. Anything with Brennan’s fingerprints on it is suspect.

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  33. quintrillion says:

    I, for one would like to demand that the Muslim Brotherhood be designated as a Terrorist Organization by the USA and run them out of America finally and completely.

    I would like President Trump to explain at a rally the meaning of stealth jihad and Khashoggi’s connection to Bin Laden.

    Also to explain that there probably remains in SA a faction, the opposition to reform, in SA by those that are Wahhabists and still want to practice violent jihad.

    I would imagine the SA resistors are the same or worse than the “Resist mob” of NPC’s in America.

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  34. Bing says:

    I would like to throw out Pakistan as being involved in some way with this. At a minimum the audio and visual evidence could have came from the Pakistan Consul. The Pakistan consul is across the street from the Saudi consul. It looks more like an alley than a one way street. Buildings are very close to each other. A google street view shows multiple cameras at both consuls and along the street.

    I would not be suprised that Pakistan at least had some involvement in the recordings. Pakistan also has poor relations with the USA. Pakistan has good relations with Turkey. Who knows what Pakistan interactions/relationships with Khashoogi or certain members of the Saudi Royal Family are or was.

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  35. millwright says:

    Kudos for an insightful piece, Sundance !! Even nearly fifty years’ back when I resided there, the internal politics of the KSA were byzantine, to say the least . And there were multple internal factions ( mostly religious ) aspiring to political power . To me, at least, nothing has changed . Abdul Bin Aziz was working create better education for the coming generations which had its opposition from the Islamic fundamentalists . They wanted to maintain the stone-age culture where they profited just as existed in Iran . Now we’re seeing a much younger and more vigorous ruler upsetting the applecarts of the fundamentalists – and probably some domestic and foreign aphabet agencies carts as well !

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  36. Right to reply says:

    Smells like the Arab Springs! Global intelligence agencies trying to undo Trump’s power

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  37. Nessie509 says:

    I think President Trump’s is handling this adroitly. He wants to wait fot the results of the investigation. Then, if unfavorable to Saudi Arabia, he will ask Congress to come up with course of action.
    Since Congress won’t be able to agree, USA maintains status quo.

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  38. California Joe says:

    Exactly! Blown way beyond proportion especially when you consider that in Mexico one journalist a month is murdered totalling 60 over the past five years or so. Did you see even one article in the Washington Post about any of them?

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  39. Bull Durham says:

    The blood of the victim is splattered on the US. Distance from MBS is imperative.
    If someone believes this is Brennan’s rogue work, they grant him powers beyond credulity.

    The stench of MBS imprisoning, torturing some and killing one of them a few months ago was indication of his pathology. Yemen is the other. He’s a war criminal, plain and simple.

    The Kingdom has huge problems beyond the price of oil, volume of production and the war of radical Islam it finances. MBS is completely replaceable.

    The US should stand far from him, let his father remove him and then the US can reengage with SA.

    It costs us nothing to see MBS ousted. A few weeks ago everyone thought his absence for a week or so meant he was deposed. Eventually, he will be. He has too many enemies within his family and the government. He is a mistake his father made.

    We lose only by associating with this sociopath. Pretending MBS is important to US is ludicrous.

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    • Burnt Toast says:

      Ever heard of Journ0list?

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    • graphiclucidity says:

      The blood of the victim is splattered on the US. Distance from Putin is imperative.
      If someone believes this is the UK’s rogue work, they grant them powers beyond credulity.

      The stench of Putin imprisoning, torturing some and killing one of them a few months ago was indication of his pathology. Syria is the other. He’s a war criminal, plain and simple.

      The Russians have huge problems beyond the price of oil, Ukraine/Crimea and the wars and nuclear program of radical Iran it finances. Putin is completely replaceable.

      The US should stand far from him, let his people remove him and then the US can reengage with Russia.

      It costs us nothing to see Putin ousted. A few years ago everyone knew his returning to be Prime Minister for a few years or so meant he was really in charge. He always will be. He has too few enemies within his party and the government. He is a mistake the KGB made.

      We lose only by associating with this sociopath. Pretending Putin is important to US is ludicrous.

      ——————————————

      You sound like Hillary Clinton circa 2012 now.
      In propaganda, turnabout is always fair play.

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  40. Electra says:

    Yikes. If this theory is correct, the Brennan faction of the CIA is still in place and is still trying to undermine President Trump’s foreign policy. I wonder if Brennan’s acolyte, former London section chief and current CIA director, Gina Haspel, is turning a blind eye to bad-actors in the CIA.

    I just don’t trust that woman. IMO, she blew any credibility she had, with her letters to Rand Paul, where she claimed that the CIA had absolutely nothing to do with spying on the Trump campaign. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/exclusive-gina-haspel-refused-to-answer-senator-rand-pauls-questions-about-cia-involvement-in-steele-dossier/ This assertion seems more and more dubious as time goes on. At best, her response to Sen. Paul was full of weasel words.

    I have a really bad feeling about this…

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  41. trapper says:

    Staring at the negative space, listening to the bell that doesn’t ring, the question that coalesces out of the ether is this: is there a clandestine intelligence group, with elements drawn from multiple government intelligence communities, but itself operating independently with no accountability to any established governments, whose participants are ideologically like-minded and pursuing a globalist, anti-nationalist, internationalist agenda? A real life SPECTRE, working with globalist elements scattered across the globe, with tentacles in multiple countries’ ICs, and using those IC’s resources to advance the cause of a future one-world government?

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  42. wyntre says:

    Question on protocol:

    I thought it was customary for Saudi Officials to have beards but Al-jubeir is always clean-shaven. Is it a matter of royal family, only? .

    Anyone know? Just curious.

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  43. youme says:

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    • GB Bari says:

      Ho, boy. THAT needs to be re-Tweeted all over the MSM reporters’ accounts and linked from every comments section under every MSM website that exists.

      Talk about MAJOR HYPOCRISY. Using Obozo’s quotes (about how we should deal with SA) against the MSM nails the MSM’s hypocrisy dead center.

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  44. Pyrthroes says:

    “Can’t anybody here play this game?” (Casey Stengal, as chronicled by Jimmy Breslin, 1962).
    Time to kick over the checkerboard.

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  45. youme says:

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  46. f.fernandez says:

    I knew something was up when immediately the narrative included A. It was Saudis B. Zero evidence but the press knew all the details before ANY intelligence agency C. They already attributed it to Prince MBS.

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  47. MVW says:

    Operation ‘Take Down America’ is in full swing. Anyone think all of this mess is happenstance & coincidence is being a ‘baby.’ The only **type** of group that I know of tasked to take down governments is the CIA. For my part I put this in their camp or a rogue branch. Further my money is on the Bush/Clinton branch.

    I can only wait and see if Trump is ready and fully supported by those with skills needed to counter this modern spy warfare.

    God protect us.

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  48. Julia Adams says:

    Yes, of course, Brett Baier will get to the bottom of the murder because he is such the consummate professional journalist. Always count on the never Trumper Baier.

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  49. cripto says:

    RUMINT a.k.a rumour circulating.
    “Reports from Saudi Arabia – King Salman ousted his son Muhammad bin Salman from the post of heir to the throne and appointed his brother Prince Khaled Mina in his place – no official announcement yet”.

    Prince Khaled Mina is a full brother to MBS and was KSA’s ambassador to the US until he was recalled home when this mare’s nest started.

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  50. I’m going to throw this out there. Let’s revisit former Obama Sec. of State John Kerry secretly meeting with Iranian Officials telling them to hang on for awhile that the Iran-Nuke-Deal will be reinstated and that Pres.Trump would be taken out of Office. Enter—>TRAITOR former Obama CIA Dir. John O. Brennan who before becoming director converted to Islam, more than likely the Wahhabi type, while working in Saudi Arabia as an Operator. Now we have the OBVIOUS Globalist Funded advancing South American Migrant Army to the U.S. just ahead or the Mid-Term Elections. ~Coincidence, I think NOT.~
    “There are Trillions at stake.”
    *Ain’t that right George Soros & Thomas J. Donohue Sr.*

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