August 16th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #574

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1,415 Responses to August 16th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #574

  1. phoenixRising says:

    Sundance RT’d

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  2. phoenixRising says:

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  3. Troublemaker10 says:

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  4. phoenixRising says:

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  5. rumpole2 says:

    Manafort Verdict Watch

    4 questions the jury just asked

    1. They asked if Judge T.S. Ellis could “redefine” for them “reasonable doubt.”
    2. They also asked two questions related to Manafort’s tax filing and foreign bank account disclosure charges. The first question was whether a person is required to file a foreign banking disclosure if he or she owns less than 50% of a company and does not have signature authority over the account but does have the authority to disburse the accounts’ funds.
    3. The second tax-related question was about the definition of a “shelf” company.
    4. Their last question was if the court could match exhibit numbers to indictments.

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    • phoenixRising says:

      Thanks rumpole2… do you have any thoughts on these questions?

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      • rumpole2 says:

        Judges generally tell Jurors to “use their common sense” since Judges do not want to risk an answer that might sway the jury.

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        • phoenixRising says:

          really wondering what you think of the jury’s questions wrt how they might be leaning…

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          • phoenixRising says:

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          • rumpole2 says:

            I have not really followed the financial details, but the Jury obviously are trying.. as they should.

            Questions about “reasonable doubt” suggests to me that at least one Juror is raising that as an issue. It is a hard concept to apply in many cases. A scientist might well say NOTHING is certain… but Jurors do have to apply some sort of definition and make sense of it.

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          • LBB says:

            Before the jury note news, I saw WaPo wrote an article against “The Biased Judge in the Manafort case” I didn’t need to read it, but considering their closeness to all in the “know” I was wondering if they heard it wasn’t going well, or just trying to get ahead if any failure occurred.

            They had another headline thanking Manafort for showing U.S. they need to crackdown on dark money

            Most people think the media unfair to anything PDJT related, so I just say let them write .

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    • rumpole2 says:

      Earlier today, the jury sent a note to the court and asked four questions. They also indicated they will be deliberating tomorrow.

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    • rumpole2 says:

      How the judge responded to the jury’s questions

      Judge T.S. Ellis told the courtroom Thursday he would instruct the jury to rely on their “collective recollection” regarding their questions on “shelf” companies and foreign banking filing requirements. He would give them no further answers on those points.

      Regarding their question about “reasonable doubt” — the legal threshold for acquitting a defendant — he said that the prosecutors had to prove their case not “beyond possible doubt,” but beyond “doubt based on reason.”

      The jury had also asked if the court could match exhibit numbers to indictments. Ellis said the court could not amend the exhibit list.

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      • phoenixRising says:

        Thank you for this update.

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      • Dutchman says:

        It is up to the ‘side’ presenting the evidence, to present it in an organised fashion. Haven’t followed trial close enough to know, but suspect defence didn’t present much documentary evidence. So, this is in prosecutors.

        Could be they just dumped a lot of paper on jury, with little organisation, on purpose. “Gee, with this much paper, there MUST be SIMETHING to the charges.”

        Or, given the performance of prosecutors, could be get another example of their amateur performance.

        If you believe you have a STRONG case, you want the evidence organised, cross referenced, etc. You want it EASY for the jury to sift through, to SEE that the defendant is guilty.

        It’s like SALESMANSHIP. You want it EASY for thecustomer to buy, NOT hard.

        This is another indication to the jury, that prosecutors case is weak.

        If I was in jury, I’d be thinking “If you wanted me to convict, you should have organised the evidence better. Not MY fault, that your an idiot. YOU guys have the “burden of proof”.

        So,…hopeful.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        Basically, the mess of information the jury has is due to the prosecution and Ellis’ not going to organize and clarify for them

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      • Dutchman says:

        It was on the PROSECUTION, as part of presenting their case, to explain “shelf companies”, so that the jury can understand it. THEY have the burden of proof, to make their case.
        And the PROSECUTION did a piss-poor job. Very amatuerish.

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    • Howie says:

      #3 A company that manufactures shelves.
      #4 Your guess is as good as mine
      #1 if you have to ask you have it
      #2 I don’t know either

      We haz a confused jury.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Those are actually good answers, especially #1.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Just occured to me; the juries EARLIER request for a bigger room; could be to try to let out and organise all the evidence.
          Think about when yourdoing your taxes, or something; you need a LOT of SPACE, to try to sort out all the piles!

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      • KBR says:

        Excellent answers.

        At least one juror has reasonable doubt, and at least one other says the other’s doubt is not reasonable, IMO. The doubter should stick to his guns.

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  6. Kent says:

    Uranium One/Manafort…..

    “Last Friday, any pretense of even-handedness in that investigation completely evaporated. Mueller offered immunity to Democrat operative Tony Podesta, whose brother John was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, in exchange for testimony against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Both Manafort and Podesta were operating as unregistered lobbyists on behalf of the Ukrainian government, yet Podesta remains free and now immune, while Manafort is facing life in prison.
    How egregious is the double standard? The Obama administration’s transfer of control of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia’s state-controlled nuclear-energy conglomerate, Rosatom — even when it knew Rosatom’s American subsidiary, Tenam USA, had committed felony extortion, fraud, and money-laundering offenses — remains off limits to scrutiny.
    The FBI had an informant who warned them about Tenam’s felonious efforts — in 2010, when it would have killed the deal. Yet the agency postponed prosecution until four years later. In 2015 Vadim Mikerin, the Russian official in charge of Tenam USA, was allowed to plead guilty to one count of money-laundering conspiracy — instead of being prosecuted under section 1956 of the penal codem which would have subjected him to decades in prison.
    It gets worse. Canadian company Uranium One, which would ultimately gain control of the uranium, contributed more than $145 million to the Clinton Foundation, and company chairman Ian Telfer donated $2.35 million on his own. Bill Clinton received a $500,000 speaking fee from Renaissance Capital, a Kremlin-linked bank that was promoting Uranium One stock.
    So why doesn’t something that reeks of quid pro quo merit an investigation? Because it would require some of the principal players involved in the current investigation to investigate … themselves.
    During the uranium transfer, Robert Mueller headed the FBI. The investigation was supervised by disgraced former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, and ended with the plea bargain when James Comey was FBI director. It was centered in Tenam’s home base of Maryland, whose U.S. attorney was Rod Rosenstein. And Mikerin’s plea bargain was cosigned by the DOJ’s Fraud Section, then run by attorney Andrew Weissman, one of Mueller’s current investigators.
    With the possible exception of Weissman, whose dubious track record of high-profile convictions includes a unanimous reversal by the Supreme Court, every one of these government officials has been presented to the public as a “paragon of integrity.”….”

    https://patriotpost.us/articles/57263-slouching-towards-a-police-state

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  7. phoenixRising says:

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  8. Troublemaker10 says:

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  9. Bubby says:

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-uncovers-six-more-clinton-emails-containing-classified-material-on-her-unsecure-non-state-gov-email-system/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=press%20release

    There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary used on unsecure server to place classified material on it knowing it would be hacked in exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation. It will never be proven but it’s a logical explanation. My guess there is some correlation of the classified material and the donations but how that would be determined is beyond me. What she did was intentional no matter what Comey reported to Congress. Unfortunately she walks or more accurately shuffles off free.

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    • patrickhenrycensored says:

      Fundraising through espionage by proxy……………………….intently creative.

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    • Kent says:

      “There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary used on unsecure server to place classified material on it knowing it would be hacked in exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation.”

      I also believe that is precisely what happened.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Nahh, ridiculous, nothing to see here.
        If you believe that, you would believe that “fast and furious” was intended to ramp up fun violence on our Southern border, IN ORDER to justify severe gun restrictions,…

        Or that the IRS DELIBERATELY targeted conservative groups,…

        Or that the embassy attack WASN’T caused by an I -net video that no one saw, …..

        Or that you CAN’T keep your insurance and Doctor,…

        Or, well,…you get the idea.

        Actually, occurred to me early on, and many others I’m sure, that Hillofbeans was selling classified info to highest bidder, and I was sceptical. Selling INFLUENCE, yes, and THAT’S why using private server,…now I’m not so sure. We are “Conspiracy theory, after C.T. shown to be true,..after awhile feel like I wouldn’t put anything past these vermin.

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    • wtd says:

      another Hillary quote which didn’t age well…..

      video snippet from an ABC News Hidden Camera Investigation of a Peter F. Paul sponsored & star studded fundraising event held August 12th, 2000 in which Hillary herself states:

      “…as much as I’ve been investigated, you know, why would I ever want to use email? Can you imagine? (cackle)”

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      • JX says:

        Comey is a LIAR. Of course she had intent, she registered clintonemail.com in the weeks prior to swearing in. She never had any intent to use official systems.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      I have been thinking the same thing. Hard to imagine, but it does make sense.

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    • snarkybeach says:

      there are rumors that some the classified info had no business being in her possession, let alone on her server…

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  10. PVCDroid says:

    I would like to see an epiphany, a wake up call in the media that the intelligence and state department actors that propagated this hoax truly did a bad thing and should be punished. This is wishful thinking but when we are six months down the road with indictments/convictions and see more evidence that cannot be disputed, there should be an accounting for the press and their collusion with these criminals.

    Something needs to come to a head. The American public don’t want to listen to lies from the news. They can see it and the ratings are showing their disdain for the press. I heard someone yesterday say that the Deep State is threatening these journalists to tow the line or else. I don’t believe it and from Chris Hayes to Brian Ross to Jim Rutenberg, the outright lies and push to manipulate Americans should have repercussions. They shouldn’t be allowed to work in the news after this. There has to be some balance in this equation especially those that were communicating directly with the intelligence community. Many of them were likely paid by Fusion GPS or Soros to promote the narrative. Those are the ones we have to stop.

    Seems to me there should be some ethical courses for journalists or a certification program where a board could take complaints and admonish those that violate ethical guidelines.

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    • KBR says:

      Seems to me that an “international press” is NOT “US press,” because it is both run and stock-owned by many foreign persons to whom the US Constitution cannot apply.

      Those to whom the US Constitution cannot apply receive no freedoms thereby.

      Constitutional “Freedom of Press” is NOT for foreign nationals nor for their media business enterprises.

      Might as well call Pravda US Press as to call MSM US press.

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  11. phoenixRising says:

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  12. treehouseron says:

    Harris Faulkner…. DEFINITELY a 36% ‘er.

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  13. Publius2016 says:

    can you imagine putting your life on hold for 8 months and NOTHING!

    thanks for nothing Mr. Turtle!

    WITHDRAWALS SENT TO THE SENATE:

    Andrew M. Gellert, of New Jersey, to be Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the United States of America to the Republic of Chile, which was sent to the Senate on January 8, 2018.

    Susan A. Thornton, of Maine, a Career Member of the Senior Foreign Service, Class of Minister-Counselor, to be an Assistant Secretary of State (East Asian and Pacific Affairs), vice Daniel R. Russel, which was sent to the Senate on January 8, 2018.

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  14. phoenixRising says:

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  15. phoenixRising says:

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    • Troublemaker10 says:

      One of the replys to TLR2’s tweet:

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      • KBR says:

        Freedom of Press is not Freedom of Propaganda.

        Someone should tweet that #FreePropaganda is not guaranteed in US Constitution.

        Then everytime you see #FreePress respond “you mean #FreePropagandist.”

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    • Troublemaker10 says:

      One of the replys to TLR2’s tweet:

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  16. Troublemaker10 says:

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  17. singingsoul says:

    Our Justice system is beyond abomination the way justice is dissed out . One set for democrats and another for republicans and Trump supporters.
    This needs to be coerced and Mueller needs to stand trail what he has done. He single handed besmeared the trust in American justice. Come was bad but Mueller is 100 % worse.

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    • yy4u says:

      True, but with this proviso. One system of Justice for “Protected” Democrats (i.e. Democrats in political office) and another for everyone else. I think the same was true of Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany and is true in China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam and all other parties ruled by Leftist Totalitarians. And YES the Nazis were Leftists — National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party (NSDAP). Socialist and Workers are not terms generally applied to capitalist democrats (small D).

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  18. phoenixRising says:

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  19. rumpole2 says:

    Ezra Levant: Thank you to The Rebel’s ONE MILLION subscribers!
    Rebel Media
    Published on Aug 16, 2018

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  20. phoenixRising says:

    President Donald J. Trump Announces Seventeenth Wave of United States Attorney Nominees and Twelfth Wave of United States Marshal Nominees

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-announces-seventeenth-wave-united-states-attorney-nominees-twelfth-wave-united-states-marshal-nominees/

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  21. Zippy says:

    EXCLUSIVE: New Texts Reveal Steele Anxious Over Comey Testimony, Hopes “Firewalls Will Hold”
    15 Aug 2018

    https://saraacarter.com/exclusive-steele-anxious-over-comey-testimony-hopes-firewalls-will-hold/

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  22. Howie says:

    How long does it take to hang a jury….I mean for a jury to be hung….I mean for a mistrial?

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  23. phoenixRising says:

    Mueller “the Fixer” caught again – a THREAD

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    • CopperTop says:

      Prediction. When the unredacted Steele Memo from Dec 2016 is released you’ll see Papa’s name in the document. This Dec memo was in reference to an earlier memo about a person who was directing DJT trip to Russia in a generic way (does not reference the years dates etc)…That memo has an unnamed source D guiding PDJT actions. This memo seeks to serve to explain what agenda was being discussed with Cohen in prague

      You can know all of Papa’s pleading to get P Trump to Russia are represented in the first memo and easily see that this Paragraph can be made to look like Source D is Papa.

      I do not believe Source D has been 100% identified.

      The reasons for Fusion GPS redactions is that it most likely is referring to SDNY investigators who GPS considered ‘clients’ on other matters and thus retained privilege to redact them.

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  24. rumpole2 says:

    Social media purge continues, as platforms operate as publishers
    The Duran
    Published on Aug 16, 2018

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    • Shadrach says:

      Platforms. Or we’ll have government intruding into this too. Which is all fine and dandy while PDJT is the president…..but can you imagine what hrc would have done with government control over social media?

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Well they are acting like publishers. Maybe someone who was injured or killed by a terrorist who visited extreme islamic sites should begin a BIG suit against Facebook since they didn’t censor THOSE sites.

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  25. Troublemaker10 says:

    ‘Blue Lives Matter’ Rejects Partnership with New York Jets Over Anthem Protests
    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/08/16/blue-lives-matter-rejects-partnership-with-new-york-jets-over-anthem-protests/

    Excerpt:

    “Although I’d love to work with an NFL team right now I feel it is not the right time,” the pro-police group’s founder Joe Imperatrice replied. “All over the United States players feel entitled to disrespect our first responders, our military members both past and present and our flag. These players make more money in a season than some people make in a lifetime and their ‘Issues’ are made up, exaggerated, and more times than not false.

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  26. rumpole2 says:

    EXCLUSIVE: Senator Rand Paul Thinks Julian Assange Should Be Granted Immunity for Testimony
    by Cassandra Fairbanks August 15, 2018

    Senator Rand Paul believes that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange should be given immunity in exchange for him testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/exclusive-senator-rand-paul-thinks-julian-assange-should-be-granted-immunity-for-testimony/

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  27. maggie0987 says:

    On a more cheery not, this item was in our local paper today – I thought it was really cute that she named her Grand Champion steer prize winner after DJT –
    https://www.wltribune.com/community/sixty-years-celebrated-at-4-h-show-and-sale/

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  28. thinkthinkthink says:

    Who would have thunk it?

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  29. rumpole2 says:

    Trump revokes Stormy Daniels’ Stripper License….

    Said to be considering other Bimbos licenses.

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  30. thomaspain1961 says:

    I am convinced obama has ordered these social media conservative purges. Not only are these platforms taking out conservatives, but also islam critics.

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    • Tom! says:

      I’m convinced that it is a repeat of the IRS attacking the tea party. Both parties had much to lose if the tea party movement succeeded to its full potential. Same here with these purges. Seems like after Zucks meeting with congress things have ramped up quite a bit. Don’t expect help but from a very small group of republicans who have no real power without numbers.

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    • kea says:

      I’m also reading that paypal and I think its mastercard who are blocking people as well?!?!?!

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  31. CopperTop says:

    If Brennan’s free speech has been infringed. Than I demand my free speech right to his same (former) clearance so i can review the Page FISC application.
    s/c

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  32. jeans2nd says:

    Sen Richard Burr just came out and defended Pres Trump against John Brennan and Brennan’s “Russian collusion” attacks on Pres Trump. Via Lou Dobbs show.

    Is the world ending and I missed it?

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  33. kea says:

    And you wonder WHY she lost….

    Hillary Clinton Backs 11-Year-Old for Kneeling During Pledge of Allegiance
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/15/hillary-clinton-backs-11-year-old-kneeling-pledge/

    Yeah I’m sure the parents helped to shape this 11 YO SJW

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  34. kea says:

    Just when you think they can’t go lower or more stupid…..I give you…

    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who Compares the National Anthem to a Slave Song

    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/08/15/kareem-abdul-jabbar-compares-national-anthem-to-slave-song/

    The reason just made me laugh I’m sorry…

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  35. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  36. kea says:

    Majority of Foreign Refugees Can’t Speak English After Five Years Living in U.S.

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/16/majority-of-foreign-refugees-cant-speak-english-after-five-years-living-in-u-s/

    This has to change. I really get upset when they have spanish signs everywhere…

    Someone said its about diversity not assimilation. I agree. Also import the 3rd world and what do you get the third world.

    Also on BB… DHS Drafting Plan to Exclude Migrants Who Need Welfare

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/15/dhs-drafting-plan-exclude-welfare-reliant-migrants/

    Yes because you try doing that to another country… on wait I forgot about the EU….
    Yes bring on the merit based system!!!!

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  37. kea says:

    Funny the media is now ‘worried’ at the cost of a Military parade…. yet look what Poland did. 🙂

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  38. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  39. phoenixRising says:

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  42. phoenixRising says:

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  43. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  44. kea says:

    I hope they can save themselves. I know a handful went to China. I ‘think’ I read that some were asking Russia for help.

    But I guess that’s ok. But this, this will not do….

    German Court Ruled Deported Bin-Laden Henchman Should be Returned to Europe

    https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/16/german-court-ruled-deported-bin-laden-henchman-should-be-returned-to-europe/

    Oh Germany, Germany, Germany, Germany. Sigh. And when I ask family how its going I am told ‘everything is ok…’

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  45. rumpole2 says:

    NEWSFLASH

    I have tracked down evidence of Trump using the “N Word”

    “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said

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    • kea says:

      LOL Oh NO…. !!!!! 😉 Oh look another N word.

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    • KBR says:

      This is not a good thing to redistribute.

      I know because I once had to spend time in a class on parasites explaining to a roomfull of “minority” students that a “chigger” (redbug) had nothing to do with race and in fact did not discriminate in the biting of people.

      Any word that sounds like the N word is a trigger.

      (And BTW just in case… “trigger” has nothing to do with race, either. )

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  46. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  47. thinkthinkthink says:

    I’m sure this has been around a while, but for anyone wanting a nice MEME for the twit wars, there is this one. Referee:

    We have an ad hominem attack
    Personal foul, attacked the
    opponent instead of his argument

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    • thinkthinkthink says:

      In response to reply to this.

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      • Shadrach says:

        What is really weird about him is that all his tweets are like this. No “hey look at this cute puppy” or “isn’t my grandson smart” or “this is an awesome outfield play”

        I think he’d be the last person on the planet I’d invite over for dinner. Unrelenting negativity.

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  48. phoenixRising says:

    THREAD — click on tweet

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