August 11th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #569

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  1. citizen817 says:

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    • Howie says:

      The Saturday Night Fever Special Counsel. Stayin’ Alive, Stayin’ Alive. Anything to stay alive. Disco Bob. He will subpoena just to keep stayin’ alive to harass President Trump, with the GOP leadership doin’ the DC Dither in the background.

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    • Bud Klatsch says:

      Well, whoever the hell will be asking Ohr questions from the joint committee had better get a primer from SD! Most of these POl’s have no clue and do little research.

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  2. citizen817 says:

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    • NewOrleans says:

      I was beginning to worry that these overpaid pampered princesses might display some semblance of intelligence and begin to act like civilized professionals.

      Thank goodness that didn’t happen and their ridiculousness will get put on display for yet another season. Keep kneeling themselves into obscurity. Weeeeeeeee!

      President Trump wins again!

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      • bandfreak22 says:

        It’s pretty bad when they can stand for other countrys’ flags but not their own. What a bunch of p*ssies.

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        • NewOrleans says:

          They aren’t smart enough to understand their hypocrisy. Two of the main dumb-dumbs used to play for the New Orleans Saints. Not once did either of these two buffoons EVER stand/kneel/protest or speak out against the massive crimes committed BY their ‘community’ against their own community or others. Not once. NOLA was the Murder Capital of the US for years and they kept their mouths shut. It’s all crocodile tears now.

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      • LandoftheFreeHomeoftheBrave says:

        No need to worry, New Orleans… you just had to wait a bit for more stupid to rise to the top.

        I feel about this issue like I do about citizens who continually badmouth our country… if you don’t like it, please feel free to leave!

        And if football players can’t respect our flag and all it stands for — and respectfully stand — then please feel free to not play ball — at all!

        What really gets me is biting the hand that feeds you… in this case, the hand is America.

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        • covfefe_USA says:

          Well, they do need a means to pay for their gold chain necklaces, their slutty women (who expect plenty of blow, Dom Perignon and 5 inch heels), and their Louis Vittons.

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      • Bendix says:

        What they are really protesting at this point, is the owners being able to tell the employees what they can and cannot do.
        Remember, the former president, Barack Obama, lied and told everyone that Kaepernick character had “the right” to pull his little stunt.
        These imbeciles are convinced that they are now standing up for their special, race-based, rights.

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      • Janie M. says:

        THIS says it all, NewOrleans:

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    • bandfreak22 says:

      I think what needs to happen is the military needs to pull out of the NFL. No fly byes, no Anthem, no colors, no American flags on anything. AND…we should rename the conferences. Take the word American and National out. They can call themselves whatever they like and are free to be the ungrateful thugs they are, but they cannot use the word American on anything related to the NFL.

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      • lotbusyexec says:

        I like that idea — they are ALL blessed to be in this great country in addition to making that kind of salary. I now just turn the dial and don’t watch.

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        • Chillin says:

          I always thought that if they really think America is so bad and so unfair to blacks, they owe it to their fellow blacks to go to the border- or other countries- and warn them to not go to America. If they could convince the immigrants that it wasn’t worth it! In reality, maybe the nfl players would get a clue!!

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      • farmhand1927 says:

        Excellent idea, Bandfreak22.

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      • DHarvey says:

        The worst part is it turns out the NFL charges our Great Military about $5 million/year for allowing the military to participate in pre-game activities. When I heard that a cuople of years ago I came damn close to going cold turkey on the NFL. The kneeling BS sealed the deal for me..my Sundays became ‘NFL free’ all last season-! 🙂

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        • Sugarhillhardrock says:

          You and me both, Harvey. I said good bye to the Patriots and the Packers, and haven’t looked back.

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        • Bendix says:

          I personally, although I do not watch football, would rather not see these military displays associated with sporting events. Nothing at all against our military. I’m fine with having them perform the anthem or God Bless America, because it’s an honor and our celebrities can’t seem to not make the song about them.
          But the planes flying over, etc., I feel like we are being manipulated to associate a dumb old football game with patriotism, for commercial purposes.
          Many Americans would just as soon leave the military out of sports.
          When that veteran finally blew the whistle on old Lyin’ Brian, it was because Brian was introduced and allowed to soak up adulation from the crowd, along with the veteran, at a sporting event.

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          • Amy2 says:

            When the country was more united and was at war with foreign governments, this was away to remind all Americans that we are “one nation” (and would prevail) and also to remember those who were fighting overseas.

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      • Martin says:

        I’d go even further. If alleged offended plaintiffs can sue a team over its logo, the NFL shouldn’t be permitted to use the Red, White and Blue in theirs, since their policies permit pain, suffering and humiliation in the actions they allow by employees, for veterans and active military. If that isn’t a large enough class of plaintiffs, I don’t know what is.

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      • oldschool says:

        I love the idea of removing all things military, including ALL tax dollars, write offs, deductions, grants, loans, tax exempt designations etc. As far as anything else, let capitalism and the free market decide. Don’t want the heavy hand of government interfering.

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        • Ms B says:

          Yes, old school. Hit ‘em in their pockets. They will be on their knees begging, instead of protesting.

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          • Your tour guide says:

            Threaten to cancel all the federal tax exemptions on the
            municipal bonds for the stadiums. But, only if the players
            continue to take a knee. The owners would have rifles
            trained on the players if they decided to kneel then.

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      • Madhatton says:

        Absolutely . Let the kids play in the time out zone without adult taxpayers providing The Flag for their obscene actions

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      • H.R. says:

        Bandfreak: “No fly byes, no Anthem, no colors, no American flags on anything.”

        No fans, no attendance, no advertisers, no salary.

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    • oldschool says:

      Unless POTUS is using this as a distraction,which he may be, move on and let the people handle it. There is a “bullying” or “childishness” to it at this point. Given The Donald’s combative history with the NFL, may not be the best place to spend so much energy while being POTUS. Some neighbors ( voted for Trump) expressed these views last night . Said he is allowing his personal vendetta show. It can legitimately be seen that way. I feel like I’m watching a bad rerun and would like him to shift gears. How about throwing a few punches at ANTIFA? They are doing a lot more than taking a knee. Jmp (just my priority)

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      • Convert says:

        I agree. He’s made his point. There’s a bunch of other people deserve roasting! Don’t elevate these spoiled, dumb, bigoted crybaby athletes! They love it. Nothing hurts worse than being ignored and irrelevant when you are an egomaniac like many of these showboaters are.

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      • Amy2 says:

        You forget PDT is the man who built a hill on his property so he could fly the flag meeting city ordinances. He is the KING of doubling down. I loved his offer to take a look at people the kneelers considered had been treated unfairly and consider them for a pardon. Not much response to them on that; which shows me they just want to whine.

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      • NC PATRIOT says:

        I don’t think it takes a lot of “energy” for POTUS to tweet a few characters from time to time. He also tweets to set the agenda for MSM (Ie to divert their attention from bashing him on tariffs, for example.)

        He is not acting out of personal vendetta—-as leader of this great land he is trying to re-kindle pride and patriotism in our flag and military.

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    • Brant says:

      NFL players could protest by not playing. That would show the man (most of the viewers anyway). Oh, I got something $$$$$$$$ stuck in my eye.

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  3. citizen817 says:

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  5. citizen817 says:

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  6. citizen817 says:

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    • joeknuckles says:

      Now if only black leaders would come out and implore all blacks to always comply with lawful orders from law enforcement officers, we could also solve a large part of the problem of blacks getting killed by the police.

      I’ve made it a point to teach my son how to act around cops because I know that a scared cop would shoot him just as dead as they would anybody of a darker skin tone if they thought they were in danger. Why the hell everybody of all races doesn’t do the same is beyond me.

      Yes, it really is that simple. At least it should be.

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      • joeknuckles says:

        I’m thinking some PSAs like this one by Chris Rock (except make them serious and clean) might help. How to bahave around police should be as much common sense as “don’t drink and drive” or “don’t text and drive” , etc..

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        • millwright says:

          A friendly attitude/smile and polite greeting goes a long way with many officers . In a traffic stop quickly acknowledge you see the officer with 4-ways and proceed slowly to a clear ( preferably lighted ) area to stop. Turn off your car place the keys on the dash away from easy reach ( if you have tinted windows make sure at least one on each side is down ) . When asked for documents tell the contact officer where they are and move s.l.o.w.l.y. to obtain and present them . Sound silly ? Any sillier than being shot by a scared cop over a traffic ticket ? Remember you don’t know what information he’s acting upon . You/your vehicle may conform to a hot BOLO involving a shooting ..

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        • Rhoda R says:

          I think that should be run as a PSA as it is with the naughty words bleeped. An idea goes further with humor than stern admonishments. Just look at how the President uses humor.

          Liked by 4 people

        • wtd says:

          In response to JoeKnuckles posting of Chris Rock’s public service announcement
          My Encounter with Officer Dreamy

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          • PatriotKate says:

            The question is did she get a ticket? If she was that gushing, I bet not.

            And, believe it or not, one of the best ways to avoid a ticket is to be a concealed carry holder. First, the officers know you have a clean record. Secondly, there’s apparently a lot more paperwork they have to do so they are less likely to give you a ticket.

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            • H.R. says:

              It’s the law in our state (federal law?) that if pulled over or approached by an Officer or engaged for questioning, if you are carrying, you must immediately inform them that you’re are licensed and carrying.

              Our instructor, during the legal portion of CCW training, advised us to immediately tell an Officer in a traffic stop that you are licensed to carry whether or not you are carrying at that time. The officers usually have already run your plate before approaching your car, so your Carry License will already be known to them and they will assume you are carrying.

              It’s not illegal to not mention your Carry License if you are not carrying, but officers will appreciate it if you clear that up at the start. If you’re not carrying, they are going to ask anyhow because they know you are licensed and they don’t know if you are carrying. If you are carrying, don’t inform the officer, and they have to ask, you’re in deep doo-doo.

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              • Sugarhillhardrock says:

                My instructors at Sig Sauer academy recommended you hand the officer your licence and CC permit simultaneously.

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              • Amy2 says:

                Yup. That’s the very FIRST thing you tell them, even if you have to interrupt the “Do you know why I pulled you over?” question!

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          • Jenny R. says:

            She’s telling the truth — only a fool of a woman (or a real entitled, nasty bint) gives the cute, nice cop a hard time.
            They’re asking for your ID, and all you’re thinking is “dang, that is one fine looking man and so nice too”…so you don’t complain about handing over your ID (unless you’re a stupid harpy).
            When I got pulled over in my youth, the hot cop not only got 100% compliance, but my friends in the car asked him if he was going off duty soon….and would he like to meet us at the club we were going to (ok, that was a bit embarrassing, but I bet he preferred that over some mouthy, aggressive jackwagon).

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      • millwright says:

        One ‘upside’ of body cams is documenting how extremely patient most officers are in dealing with distraught and unco-operative subjects regardless of race or gender . But when the subject ( oft-times with a skin full of drugs or loaded with adrenaline ) responds aggressively – with or without a visible weapon – I feel officers are forced by current political mandates into responding with lethal force instead of having the option of the baton to enforce compliance .

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        • joeknuckles says:

          LEOs are trained to respond in a certain way in response to the actions of the public. Nobody is traibing the public how to act in the correct manner so as to keep everybody safer. In fact, those most likely to encounter law enforcement are being told the exact wrong way to act. This is really a no-brainer to me.

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          • Sentient says:

            ^this. It’s like the Trayvon Martin shooting. Most young people didn’t get the valuable lesson. Was it…
            A) White people always get away with shooting black people
            B) The 911 operator told Zimmerman to stop and he didn’t.
            C) Trayvon got shot for wearing a hoodie.
            D) Trayvon was innocent because he had Skittles.
            E) No matter how much some guy is bugging you by following you, you can’t sneak around, jump him and start punching his head into the sidewalk. Not only is that felony assault, but he might be packing heat and you might be killed.

            Hint: it’s E.

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            • Nathan says:

              Simple battery a misdemeanor. Zimmerman is scum and proved to before and after the TM shooting. That said TM should kept going.

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              • Jenny R. says:

                That whole incident was a case, as my dearly departed mother said, of “two shiploads full of stupid running into each other in the night”.
                I still feel rather bad for both parties because I don’t necessarily consider them to be evil, just stupid, fatally stupid…and nobody ever took either of them aside when they were younger and taught them any differently.

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      • treehouseron says:

        When they pull me over, I hang my arms out the window and turn on the interior light. As soon as they see you doing that basically you never get a ticket.

        It’s a cultural thing, I’m going to say it and I don’t care what people think, but lots of black kids (and some white ones too) don’t speak when spoken to, don’t look at you in the eyes, they mumble and avoid conversation… this is the kind of stuff that makes people think somebody’s up to something.

        It’s not so much ‘muh racism’ that’s causing the problems between cops and young black americans it’s more a cultural issue. The kids are probably no more likely to break the law than white kids but they have a certain culture where they don’t speak up or address people the way white culture is used to and it causes confrontations.

        Cops and the communities need to start talking REAL and honest about things like that or the problem is never going to go away.

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        • dekester says:

          You are correct THR, I once pulled over a vehicle driving the wrong way on a one way street, and the two occupants acted as you describe.
          Avoiding eye contact an the like. As a result I took just a little longer with my cursory visual of the vehicles interior. In the consol between the the two front seats, where the handle for an E brake may be located. It was a handle alright, the handle of a loaded sawed off shotgun.
          Located in the back of the vehicle was a box of cash, cash obtained from a series of robberies.
          For the record.The two occupants were W/M drug addicts.

          God bless PDJT.

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        • Jim in TN says:

          Crime stats don’t lie. Certain people are more likely to break the law than other people. Who is more likely, teens in hot rods or moms in SUVs? Both groups will have speeders and DUIs. You may even find bank robbers in both groups. And most people won’t be criminals at all. But a police officer profiling moms in SUVs is probably hoping to find something other than crime.

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      • Bendix says:

        White parents teach their sons and daughters too, how to behave during a traffic stop.
        In fact, in Albany, New York, the police chief was giving talks on this, with the full approval of the loudest of the loudmouth activists.
        Joeknuckles, I know that many if not most black parents pass this along to their kids too, the ones we see are the cases where they didn’t, or the kids weren’t listening.

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        • Jenny R. says:

          Oh, there are plenty of white parents that don’t teach their kids how to behave around the cops. I was riding in a car with a guy once, going to lunch during our break, and he pulled right out in front of a squad car. He pulled us over, and he starts getting up in the cop’s grill, arguing, calling the cop a pig, telling him he worked for us. Started yelling at me because I did the Chris Rock thing “shut up! just take the ticket and shut up, you did make him lock up his brakes”.
          He was a white, upper middle class, suburban college grad…and a Republican (the country club type).
          Stupid arrogance and lacking in common sense is an equal opportunity employer.
          He was po’d with me, told me that was the last time he’d offer a ride to my hillbilly arse…I was just fine with that; thank you, don’t need to do me any more favors.
          Six months later his younger brother got into trouble with a public intox and same thing: got rude and mouthy with the cops.

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  7. citizen817 says:

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  8. rumpole2 says:

    US Silicon Valley continue to Collude to meddle in US elections…

    h3h3Productions on YT…
    5,947,904 subscribers

    H3H3 and Gavin McInnes Censored
    The Thinkery
    Published on Aug 10, 2018

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    • cthulhu says:

      Welcome to the club. It will only continue until smashed in the mouth.

      Liked by 14 people

    • Molly says:

      This is a good Sargon’s video … straight to the point.

      All this happening is unreal. That’s a lot of subs on a channel to shut it down. Seems to be getting worse and I really feel for these people who are getting censored after working hard to promote themselves. I don’t think you get 6 million subscribers by only having good content, you have to work at it. Just looked at PJW and he only has 1.3m subs, and he’s one of the best!

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    • quintrillion says:

      This could be part of the what the leftist Antifa fears and what got Gavin McInnes banned by the soyboy internet control freaks McInnes is part of the ProudBoys so is Rufio Panman (the ProudBoy that knocked an Antifa on his butt viral video) and Will Johnson reported from last Portland Prayer Rally..

      https://beta.real.video/5820799360001
      Alex interview with Will Johnson and Rufio Panman. This is good. 48 minutes total

      http://proudboysusa.com/aboutus/

      There is also a ProudBoys’Girls but when I clicked on the link to see it – it says account suspended

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    • Bendix says:

      Alex is officially a nonperson now?
      And they try to liken President Trump to the Nazis?

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  9. dallasdan says:

    Sen Grassley has scheduled the SCOTUS confirmation hearings for Judge Brett Kavanaugh. Onward!

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/grassley-announces-senate-confirmation-hearings-on-kavanaugh-september-4-7/

    FTA:

    “Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) announced on Friday that his Senate Judiciary Committee will hold hearings on Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination for the U.S. Supreme Court on September 4 through 7, giving the Senate time to confirm him before the Supreme Court begins its annual term on October 1.

    Democrats are expressing outrage at the schedule, saying that they have not had enough time or material to vet President Trump’s nominee, but those objections fall apart on the facts.

    Grassley has presided over the most thorough vetting of any Supreme Court justice in U.S. history, and he says it is now time for his committee to prepare for public hearings.”

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    • Sedanka says:

      We should probably expect Kavanagh to be narrowly confirmed.

      Do you think this will depress Democrat turnout for the midterms or will it energize them?

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      • dallasdan says:

        Agree on the narrow, near party-line confirmation.

        Good question about the potential impact on the elections. I am uncertain. I presently think developments in the Mueller charade will be more of an influence on voter turnout than the confirmation of Kavanaugh.

        I am confident that the political combat associated with the SCOTUS confirmation, the Mueller travesty, and the midterm elections will be unprecedented in its acrimony.

        I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that political outcomes in the next few months will heavily influence the foreseeable future of the nation.

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        • 🍺Gunny says:

          I would suppose the President has a highly qualified back up in the event Kavanaugh does not get approved.

          In that light the “back up” should be approved with ease due to the acrimony that the failure to approve Kavanaugh would cause.

          No worries.

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          • PaulM says:

            I was thinking that the “backup” would actually be the more preferable candidate (to conservatives).
            The logic being: “Here’s an acceptable candidate, approve him before midterms or take the risk of losing midterms and then I will withdraw this candidate and you’ll be forced to take the other one that you’ll like a lot less”.

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      • olderwiser21 says:

        I don’t believe the Demonrats have much to offer their constituents regardless. Higher taxes? More illegal immigrants? Socialism for all? The dissolution of ICE? Yeah, that sounds really good to most Americans. Kav’s confirmation is probably irrelevant to the crazies. They will obstruct no matter what, or hopefully, wise up and walk away. I doubt it will have much impact overall. Just my opinion.

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        • Earl & Pearl Tourist says:

          Hopefully his confirmation will put RBG over the edge and he will get another SC slot to cement his legacy of MAGA.
          She should step down anyway due to her blatant bias against the current administration.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Yes, more of the same crappy ideas that don’t work, and that VSG is making irrelevant, ..but we are AGAINST TRUMP!

          Sounds like a great campaign theme to me!,…/s

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        • GB Bari says:

          They have extreme, irrational, unbridled hate for Trump and all things Republican. That comes from fear. Fear is a great motivator. Does not matter that theirs is completely unfounded and equally as irrational as the hate.

          But IMO there will be enough of them who will privately recognize the benefits of Trump policies that have brought more jobs, better pay, and a brighter outlook. That will offset their fears enough that they may decide to not expend any energy to vote for a hate-spewing Democrat.

          Think about how far outside the American mainstream one must be to actually NOT benefit from MAGA policies. Are 51% or more in that category?

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Bla bla bla bla, how nice…where are the rest of the President’s executive appointees??Until that point the swamp is still considered in control and delayed coup continues to march. It takes weeks for anything to crawl through the liberal dominated district courts to the supreme court, while legacy swamp actions are near instantaneous.

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  10. citizen817 says:

    Publicity stunt or whatever, I don’t see how this could possibly benefit the DNC, as Assange already stated the emails didn’t come from a hack.

    DNC serves WikiLeaks with lawsuit via Twitter

    The DNC filed a lawsuit in April against the Trump campaign, Russian government and WikiLeaks, alleging a massive conspiracy to tilt the 2016 election in Donald Trump’s favor. 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dnc-serves-wikileaks-with-lawsuit-via-twitter/

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    • Chris Four says:

      I wonder if this meets WikiLeak submission guideline?

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    • dallasdan says:

      Watch-out, DNC, Discovery cuts both ways.

      As badly as the Mueller charade is going, and the strong possibility that all credibility of the travesty will be shredded in the near-term, I am very surprised the DNC is going forward with it.

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    • Dutchman says:

      They saw how well it worked out for mueller, dyeing Russian companies that “would never contest in American court”, so decided they would try it.

      What a bunch of tools,…

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    • Chris Four says:

      This might be the why

      “Thanks to journalist Emma Best, you can now rifle through 11,000 direct, private messages sent to and from Wikileaks’ Twitter account.

      “More obviously, the messages show a strong Republican favoritism. Previous reports had already revealed portions of the Wikileaks’ Twitter chats. They included messages allegedly sent by Assange himself, one saying, “it would be much better for the GOP to win.” He later described Hillary Clinton as “a bright, well-connected, sadistic sociopath.”

      “Wikileaks’ antipathy toward Clinton stretched back to at least 2015, and the organization didn’t have much love for President Obama. “Obama is just a centralizer. He’s bad because representionally he does not look or act like that which he represents. Hillary has similar representation confusion, but she will actively lead the machine to a dark place,” read one message dated November 19 2015. On the same day, Wikileaks wrote that “Hillary has so muc hslime [sic] on her shirt it is now hard to make dirt stick.”

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2018/07/30/11000-wikileaks-twitter-messages-released-to-the-public/#6dad9e2430a0

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    • Kintbury says:

      Discovery is going to be a bitch for Democrats. They never learn.

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  11. Eric says:

    Plane stolen and shot down over Tacoma was a Q400. Yet more confirmation of “Q”.

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  12. Marygrace Powers says:

    Special Report:
    Nellie Ohr: Woman in the Middle/
    by DIANA WEST

    Is It A Surprise To Find A Stalin Apologist At The Center Of The Steele Dossier Scandal?

    February 22, 2018

    “Nellie Ohr is the “dossier” spying scandal’s woman in the middle.

    To one side of Ohr, there is the Fusion GPS team, including fellow contractor Christopher Steele. To the other, there is husband Bruce Ohr, who, until his “dossier”-related demotion, was No. 4 man at the Department of Justice, and a key contact there for Steele.”

    Notably, the “dossier” men in her life have tried to shield Nellie Ohr from public scrutiny, even at professional risk. Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson and even Christopher Steele may have all tried to keep Nellie Ohr “under cover.”

    Steele, put forth as the “dossier” author ever since its January 2017 publication in BuzzFeed, does not appear to have let on to his many media and political contacts that he had “dossier”-assistance from at least two fellow Fusion GPS Russian experts, Nellie Ohr and Edward Baumgartner. Baumgartner, interestingly, was a Russian history major at Vassar in the 1990s when Nellie Ohr taught Russian history there.

    Thus, Nellie Ohr’s exact activities inside one of the great Russian-American disinformation campaigns of all time remain opaque. What most observers don’t realize, though, is that we already have a window onto her thinking through her strongly-etched, ideological view of Soviet history.

    Nellie Ohr has a paper trail.

    This paper trail is comprised of a Stanford Ph.D. thesis and a series of academic book reviews, all published between 1990 and 2004 when Nellie Ohr, Harvard Class of 1983, was probably between the ages of 29 and 43. I mention her seasoned age because in the course of my own detailed analysis of Ohr and her writings here, here and here, I discovered something shocking that cannot be put down to or dismissed today as youthful inexperience: Nellie Ohr follows in the academic tradition of 1970s and 1980s “revisionism.”

    Like me, most readers unencumbered by a Ph.D. will not immediately understand the term’s profound significance. Here is a beam of illumination from one of the movement’s progenitors, Sheila Fitzpatrick, who, in a 2007 overview of this “revisionist” school, explains its origins thus: “Quite a few of the 1970s revisionists were Marxists… who hoped to find that at least part of the promise of socialist revolution had been realized or could be recovered.” She further notes that the “political agenda” of the so-called New Left “undoubtedly influenced many American revisionists.”

    These campus Marxists — sorry, “revisionists” — would soon dominate history departments of American universities, where, naturally, they taught various aspects of the “revisionist” line: that the original “Soviet experiment” remains viable; that Stalin’s crimes and his responsibility for them have been exaggerated (especially by that awful anti-communist historian Robert Conquest); that maybe they were even worth it all in the end. “Revisionists” were known for rejecting the “totalitarian model” of Soviet Russia as a politicized figment of Cold Warrior imaginations; however, when the Soviet Union fell apart and changed form in 1991, the “revisionists” seemed to have, too.

    In the introduction to her 418-page paper, Ohr sets forth her main arguments, citing many of “revisionism’s” leading figures — J. Arch Getty, Roberta Manning, Gabor Rittersporn, Sheila Fitzpatrick.

    Speaking “revisionist” lingo, Nellie Ohr turns the millions killed by Stalin into “excesses,” which, in Ohr’s words, “sometimes represented desperate measures taken by a government that had little real control over the country.” (Poor Stalin.) She depicts purges as representing “to some degree a center-periphery conflict in which the ‘state-building’ central government tried to bring headstrong local satraps under control.”

    https://spectator.org/nellie-ohr-woman-in-the-middle/

    Nellie and Bruce Ohr Harvard Class of 1983 25th Reunion, June 2008 in Cambridge, MA.
    Finally I find another photo of Nellie Ohr from 10 years ago/ spying is a rough life apparently.

    http://slides.sitewelder.com/users/PaulaLerner2584/docs/harvard25threunion/content/080607_W0714_042_large.html

    Excellent drill down on Nellie Ohr by Diane West. Not surprised that Nellie
    Ohr refers to millions killed by Stalin as “excesses.” Her upcoming interview
    outta be something. As flep referred to her earlier, “Nellie Ohr is a dead woman walking.”

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    • olderwiser21 says:

      Why do all these socialist women look like fugly men? It is astounding!

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    • Rhoda R says:

      What I’d like to know is does she have clearance? And how, being married to an out and out communist sympathizer, did Ohr get any kind of clearance as well?

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      • cthulhu says:

        You’ll have to ask the Chinese, who exfiltrated all the SF-86 information from the OPM.

        The SF-86 is a 127 page form (yes, really — https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86-non508.pdf ) to get a security clearance. You have to disclose a bunch of personal information, where you’ve lived, a bunch of family information, a bunch of foreign information, a bunch of identifying information, and other information at great detail. If you want to know all about someone to know they are trustworthy, it’s a great place to start. If you know of someone who is trusted and want to turn them, it’s an even better place to start. And the incompetent OPM let the Chinese nab the entire database.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Is it possible; old Soviet Union was working long term plan, to infiltrate education, media, entertainment, and government, in order to ‘conquer from within’.

      Then, U.S. ‘won’ the cold war, and the Soviet Union collapsed. But, these “true believers” were still in place, and decided to ‘carry on’.
      Is THIS what we are dealing with?

      No WONDER they hate Russia, and Putin.

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      • 🍺Gunny says:

        Actually it’s more the British than the Russians. The British have hated the Russians for a very long time and blame them for losing most of their empire.

        The British have had spies in America for decades

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        • cthulhu says:

          There are numerous signs that more Five-Eyes developments are coming down the pike. People think The Mess might spill over onto Clinton/Obama. People think The Mess might spill over to Brennan/Clapper. Both may be true, but The Mess is also likely to spill over onto Five-Eyes.

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      • Kaco says:

        Well, there’s that Yuri Bezmenov who said so.

        Sometimes I can’t believe we’re dealing with socialists (communists) now. What happened to America?

        I took the kids to see Death of a Nation today.

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      • Dutch

        see Wickipedia Anotoliy Golitsyn .
        He was a Russian KGB defector ,who ,in the 80s outlined the Russian Communist long term plan to conquer the US .,He accurately predicted what Gorbachav would do ,the fall of Eastern European Communism ,the Wall, and the infiltration of Western Govts.
        Of 140 predictions he gave 136 of those have come thru .
        Other studies have shown. that the secret services of Eastern European govts helped with the ending of the Communists govts..
        The US govt shunned him because it was more politically expedient to believe that our actions caused the fall of the Soviet Empire.

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      • mariposa232 says:

        That is exactly what we are dealing with. Unfortunately , it wasn’t only an American infiltration , it was global, It was centered in the most trusted institutions , like the churches, the Jesuit order etc., they had to attack the philosophical underpinnings of the society, From there it would flow out to the influential members of the society which would be in the media , in politics and higher education.

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    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      Studied the Soviets and Russia for three years in college, including a graduate level course I was able to qualify for. There were not a lot of apologists, but there were a few.
      “Excesses” doesn’t cover it when your Premiere kills 30 million of his own countrymen. Mao did the same thing.
      Marxism only ends one way. Anyone who apologizes for it is a sociopath.
      Can’t wait to watch this witch testify.

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    • amwick says:

      Imperator Rex linked the study of the “dossier” in a tweet. This is a huge, a complex analysis of all the players… It would take hours to actually digest, I doubt I could, but it is interesting if you like details. It uses all kinds of fancy data processing, image recognition and stuff like that for the study. I kinda got about half way… I was gobsmacked. Once again it is YUGE.

      https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/

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      • PS says:

        ^^^^ READ THIS

        5 minutes of reading, and you find a complex network of ex-gov officials, reporters, spouses becoming intelligence gathering experts and consultants. Implying, this “dossier” creation business is routine.

        And, there are many of them in this network still active in Trump’s DOJ.

        Lesson 1: anything on the Internet is there forever

        Lesson 2: there are some scary powerful tools out there in the Intelligence world. It’s obvious that if they are used for evil, they can quickly cause great harm.

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        • amwick says:

          I have to admit those research tools were over my head, I tried to follow.. Rex sent this to SD,,, I am sure he was more or less familiar with the characters, if not the exact tool that assembled the information.. fascinating, and amazing..

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      • covfefe_USA says:

        Yes – this is very long, but amazingly documented.

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    • StanH says:

      As others have said “Tail-gunner Joe,” had it exactly right. He was the first example of the press, Hollywood teaming up with politicians in the USA to take out anyone that was getting close to the truth. The Ivy League had already been infiltrated by communist sympathizers and outright Marxist. Let us not forget Walter Duranty’s (Moscow Bureau Chief of The New York Times for fourteen years (1922–1936) …glowing reviews of the Bolshevik Revolution and the creation of the Soviet Union and subsequent purges aka “excesses.” This is the kind of thing that has been allowed to infest our politics, entertainment and MSM for far to long. President Trump is the perfect antidote to this Marxist cabal and is pounding away day to day on the foundations of this incestuous swamp corruption.

      MAGA! …by exposing the Marxist cabal.

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      • smartyjones1 says:

        McCarthy had a lot correct but not all. He undercut the efforts by losing sight of accuracy.

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        • Your tour guide says:

          There’s a big simplification to much of what has occurred.

          Two concepts:
          “We don’t mention it, therefore it doesn’t exist”

          ” If you DO mention it, you are an intolerant crank,
          and only crazy people listen to you”.

          This covers the media, academia, and, even religion.

          After the early 70s, evil didn’t exist. The communist menace
          didn’t exist. Satan didn’t exist.

          McCarthy was the one cited as being ultimate evil. Many
          movies were made about Communist witchhunts.
          Woody Allen’s “The Front”, anyone?

          Has there ever been any movies made since the 40-50s
          about communism, and what it caused? How much satire
          by all the clever people ridiculed the anti communist
          movies of the 40s-50s? Weren’t all unapproved thoughts
          labeled as “McCarthyism?

          Over the years yours truly has been Lutheran, Methodist,
          agnostic, Presbyterian, and Methodist again. The agnostic
          bit didn’t work. Too much evidence to the contrary. Ready to
          pack it in with the Methodists altogether. As long as you
          back the right SJW nonsense, and hear a little bit or religion
          lite, you’re all right. If not, you’re intolerant. You’re not evil,
          it doesn’t exist. Nor does satan. Haven’t heard his name
          mentioned in any sermons in decades.

          Haven’t heard any behaviors, intolerances, deeds called
          satanic in church for over 40 years. The only mention of
          satan is when by rote bible passages are read, and then,
          it’s glossed over. Satan is mentioned, in a manner like
          “Yeah, it’s in the Bible, so we’ll say it, but that’s it”.

          You can’t have true good unless you have something to
          compare it against. That’s why it was so important to have
          any mention of the Ten commandments made to seem like
          old school intolerance. McCarthyism.

          Evil doesn’t exist, unless it’s on their terms. Satan doesn’t
          exist. Unless his name’s McCarthy. The Ten Commandments
          don’t exist, because they outline what evil is. We can’t have
          that, because only THEY are allowed to outline what is and
          what isn’t evil. They can also use this line of thought to
          infer God doesn’t exist. Because he is the final arbitrator of
          what evil is or isn’t. Can’t be allowed, because it isn’t on their
          terms.

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  13. Garrison Hall says:

    The Cheryl Atkinson article referenced by Sundance last night is one of the best analyses of the complex plot to destroy the Trump presidency. Reading her article, keeping up with Sundance’s contributions here, and putting two and two together sure makes it seem like there was quite a lot more going on that is being discussed or admitted to. The connections are just too plainly evident. Thanks to Sundance figuring stuff out a couple of years or more ago, we knew all about the splitter strategy, the GOPe, the UniParty, and now the Deep State. And now the pieces are all fitting together. I would have never imagined that a conspiracy to subvert my own government would be possible. I no longer believe that at all now. Our country is in peril.

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    • Buck says:

      Then add in China’s full spectrum penetration into our Government, Politicans, Corporations, Military Industrial Complex, Hollywood, University’s and their research programs, etc and it gets even worse.
      But please stay focused and blame everything on Russia, pay no attention to us ChiComs.

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    • highdezertgator says:

      Spiritual Man (values) is a danger to the survival of the “controllers”. Control of education such as the Harvard of the Ohr’s!
      “By denying that values are real or that sentiments can be reasonable, subjectivism saps moral motivation and robs people of the ability to respond emotionally to experiences of real goodness and real beauty in literature and in the world.”
      “In surrendering rational reflection on their own motivations, the controllers will no longer be recognizably human, the controlled will be robot-like, and the Abolition of Man will have been completed.” CS Lewis Abolition of Man

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  14. Chris Four says:

    We have had repeated threats by Turkey against our airbase at Incirlik that we should have decreased our exposure by now. There other safer forward airbases. Relocate to Cypress which is about 15 minutes by air from Incirlik

    ‘Turkish Lawyers Want To Raid Incirlik Air Base, Arrest US Troops For Terrorist Ties,

    “A group of pro-government lawyers in Turkey have filed charges against several U.S. officers associated with Incirlik Air Base, seeking their arrest for alleged ties to terrorist groups.”

    Leave Turkey now.

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/08/08/turkish-lawyers-seek-arrest-us-service-members-incirlik-air-base.html

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    • Earl & Pearl Tourist says:

      That raid would get some very unpleasant responses, all very loud with lots of flash.

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      • Chris Four says:

        They have successfully locked down the base before. Planes grounded.

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      • piper567 says:

        Earl & Pearl, I was just thinking the exact same thing.
        oh, nos!

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        • Jedi9 says:

          I am wondering if the Nuclear war heads have been removed from the base? That in of itself would be the first priority in addressing with any renewed threats from Turkey and especially with a power hungry sociopath such as Erdogan! I am not even sure why we have a base in Turkey to begin with, if only for the sole reason of strategic location, but it is probably time to reconsider closing it down and removing all threats to our military servicemen and women.

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          • roger duroid says:

            Remember in 2002 when Turkey wanted 2 BILLION or so to let us invade Iraq from the North via Turkey? And they were in NATO at that time, too, as I recall.

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            • Jedi9 says:

              Yes I do remember that! Its absurd to think about how they use extortion in order to get money that probably lines the pockets of Erdogan himself. He is using the same strategy to blackmail the EU for membership by agreeing to keep refugees or house them from entering Europe!

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      • thedoc00 says:

        The Turkish Army could over run the base at their leisure before anything could respond. The Turkish Defense Forces, by treaty, have primary responsibility for base security and their very few US Ground forces present.

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        • thedoc00 says:

          Its the response that has them deterred so far.

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        • Garrison Hall says:

          A Turkish military attack, occupation, or even arrest of American personnel would be an act of war. It would also be a direct violation of Turkey’s NATO membership obligations and would oblige our NATO members to defend our interests—none of which would be at all good for Turkey. Even worse for Turkey the phrase “full weight of the US military” is often used in diplomatic discussions but with president Trump as CNC it actually means something. Turkey has a 1990’s military, pretty much what Sadaam had. A single marine division went through his entire army like a hot knife through butter. My guess is that our assets are as safe at Incirlik as they would be in Tulsa.

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          • thedoc00 says:

            No argument there but people need to understand that Turkey could over run that base if they felt the need to do so and that there was noting to loose.

            Plus you grossly under estimate the capabilities of the Turkish Military and their will to resist any invader that far surpasses that of the disintegrating Iraqi Military.

            By the way much of the US Army is 1990’s as well.

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    • jrapdx says:

      Given PT’s responses to Turkey not releasing the pastor they have jailed there, I can only imagine how PT would respond to a stunt like Turks trying to arrest airmen at Incirlik. Probably would be a stronger action than increasing tariffs, might involve more potent options, maybe a few spare Tomahawks…

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    • Fake Nametag says:

      It’s not easy to put US forces on Cyprus. Would probably require the UK to renegotiate the Treaty of Guarantee. Secondly, the Russian intel threat is high there; Cyprus has close ties with Russia and has had a Communist party president win election as recently as 2008.

      That said, it would be wonderful to see the Turks howl in protest as they lost the US presence while Cyprus gained it.

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      • soozword says:

        Given how Italy is waking up to the globalist invasion force, how about moving the base there (or at least the nukes)?

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        • We already have significant military presence in Northern Italy (east of Venice is an Airforce base there is also an army base not far from there in Vicenza). Link below shows all U.S. base locations in Italy.
          BUT, Turkey is more proximate to Iraq and Iran, as would be Cyprus if legal issues can be resolved. I suspect that some of the work that POTUS has embarked on to reset the alliances in the Middle East, notably via success with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, is part of giving us better options besides reliance on Turkey.
          We spent over a month in Turkey in mid eighties. It is a fantastic place of great and ancient culture (many of the NT significant churches were there), but at the time was far less developed and particularly in the interior, people could be more easily swayed by Islamist fundamental clerics, sadly.
          https://militarybases.com/overseas/italy/

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  15. andyocoregon says:

    Twitter suspends another conservative group. Proud Boys suspended one day ahead of Unite The Right Rally in D.C. Coincidence? I think not.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/proud-boys-gavin-mcinnes-twitter-suspension-today-unite-the-right-2018-08-10/

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  16. keebler AC says:

    A more optimistic note today to share.

    We know that ELF electronic weapons do exist with the exception that they have not been approved nor authorized for use by the military but we don’t know that Lockheed Martin and Raytheon has not sold these into the black market to the top .0001% Illuminatini, Lucifarians or Democrat globalists whom we know are not above illegal means to achieve control and wealth.

    What can we do to protect ourselves?

    Look at proper faraday cage examples which theoretically includes anything that will diminish the severity of the radio or microwave beams

    1. Aluminum or other metals but be sure to ground it or place a ground layer between you and the metal

    2. Metal meshes with small apertures for sleeping arrangements such as metal mesh enclosures or military style silver laced sleeping bags used for combat soldiers because especially the military knows and understands the threat of DEW attacks

    3. Infuse your living quarters with negative ions which act almost like aluminum to bounce or dissipate the radio waves or microwave. The earth has an outer layer called the ionosphere which protects the earth’s atmosphere from outr space radiation. Neg ions are created by plants, sun ☀️ (hi Sundance!) and water falls. So open your windows or get neg ionizers. Many targeted individuals choose to live outside for safety believe it or not because of this. Safer than enclosed non-faraday rooms.

    https://radiojove.gsfc.nasa.gov/education/educ/radio/tran-rec/exerc/iono.htm

    4. Discharging the electronic attacks by grounding to earth.

    5. Buy sophisticated RF analyzers which are extremely expensive to detect direction of incoming and wave frequency. President Trump and his experts should arm themselves with these and measure to detect where the emissions are originating from! It’s said Lockheed Martin has 47 locations as well as private security firms in LA.

    No measure is a panacea but each trick helps.

    Incidently, Weinstein used Black Cube from the UK to spy on his female targets. Black Cube seems nefarious to me if they did this for Weinstein and I don’t doubt for a moment that proponents in the UK much like the Steeles dossier intensely dislike Americans and Canadians for leaving the homeland.

    Please share widely to assist your fellow patriots and conservatives caught in th net. If they go, we may be next in line. The only hope we have is their limited equipment and staffing resources!

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    • joeknuckles says:

      Are you saying a tin foil hat won’t work?

      Liked by 6 people

    • cthulhu says:

      Cellphones have been moving to non-replaceable batteries so that they cannot be fully turned-off. In the meantime, various flavors of Android allow full-time internet access to the GPS, audio, and video of each cellphone regardless of “owner”-accessible settings. Wrapping cellphones in tinfoil while not in use isn’t crazy.

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      • PaulM says:

        I had the same problem with a “smart” TV that I bought for my security cameras. Even though I had disabled wifi in settings, it kept trying to access my routers. I finally unpluged it and it kept trying for more than a week until the battery ran down.

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      ELF isn’t RF… not by a long shot…

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      • keebler AC says:

        Dew have been developed which run the gamut from low to high frequencies. This is why it’s formidable to escape from. Cannot hide behind a rock. Low frequency is the one that can get through any crevice not shielded.

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    • Paintingjan says:

      Will you stop with this nonsense!!!!! You REALLY have crossed into the realm of full blown paranoia. You know, the kind that is fodder for left wing news to report, criticize, laugh at!

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      • keebler AC says:

        You’re more frightened of the left wing media making fun of you with alinsky tactics to keep you ignorant.

        You do know that lamestream media itself is mind control, RIGHT? Why would I be afraid of them laughing at me? I’m so worried especially about Jim Acosta and pussy hatters making fun of me, lol.

        You haven’t read the full post that refers to combat troops sleeping with silver faraday blankets. That surely is something to laugh at. Who are you anyways?

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        • You know what. I understand Paintingjan’s comment…I think on the same line. However, you make very valid points with your reply. To be honest, many things that I used to think were conspiracy theories have proven to be true over time.

          Why should we be worried about what people think that where pink putty hats and scream at the sky?

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  17. theresanne says:

    According to Jay Sekulow and Rudy Guliani the Mueller team already indicated they will accept Comey’s version over President Trump’s, thereby setting up a perjury charge should President Trump agree to be interviewed by SC. Mueller team is investigator/prosecutor/judge/jury all in one.

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  18. Dutchman says:

    Prediction; A year from now, muleteam will be crying like babies, 2 years from now, won’t have a pot to p*ss in, unless it’s in a jail cell.

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    • citizen817 says:

      Tom Fitton: Mueller Operation Built on ‘Sand and Corruption’
      (6:12)

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    • paulraven1 says:

      Another prediction: Mueller will charge President Trump with perjury or obstruction (or recommend or refer criminal charges) before midterms.

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      • The Boss says:

        Remember: “Stay tuned!”

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      • StanH says:

        I agree. They will try something, that’s the point. The good news, President Trump knows this as well and will stick that charge/indictment where the sun doesn’t shine.

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        • pochas94 says:

          Boy, will that get out the voters!!

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        • AustinPrisoner says:

          To his credit, POTUS is really a stubborn SOB when he wants and needs to be and the Mueller hacks underestimated this personality trait. They went too far for too long and POTUS will not be un-triggered. Now we have a credibility death match and Trump has more stamina -plus the military and actual militias on his side, plus most of productive people who keep this country afloat.

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          • Bendix says:

            He’s fighting not just for himself, but for all of us, and for our country.
            He didn’t make his great Swamp speech for nothing.
            Remember, the FBI carelessly allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place. That even had a major impact on New Yorker Donald J. Trump.
            Nobody within the FBI was sanctioned in any way for that horrible dereliction of duty.

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  19. rumpole2 says:

    BTW
    The “Hannity show” is a LOT better with him not there.

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  20. Giant Ground Sloth says:

    Does anyone know roughly what percentage of the F-35’s components are American-made? Someone pointed out earlier that a major section of the fuselage of all F-35s are manufactured in Turkey. I’m surprised that the President hasn’t criticized Lockheed Martin (and others) for outsourcing so much of the F-35’s production to foreign aerospace companies.

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    • Chris Four says:

      “In total for Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney, F-35 Production Industrial Participation opportunities for Turkish companies are expected to reach more than $12 billion.

      Alp Aviation has been supporting the program since 2004 and currently manufactures F-35 production airframe structure and assemblies, production landing gear components and over 100 F135 production engine parts to include titanium integrated blade rotorS”

      https://www.f35.com/global/participation/turkey-industrial-participation

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  21. wendy forward says:

    I believe it, especially with Jay Sekulow.

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  22. andyocoregon says:

    Holy Smokes! That airplane stolen in Seattle and crashed in Tacoma was a Horizon Air Q400 turboprop. No other passengers onboard. Very low populated island it crashed on.

    https://katu.com/news/local/stolen-plane-forces-ground-stop-at-seatac-airport

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    • piper567 says:

      andy, this link is pretty clueless, as the man reporting is on the mainland, and gives the impression all of these folks are on Ketron.
      Nobody but the few people on Ketron know what’s going on.
      There is no airstrip there, so all the responders must arrive by either boats or seaplanes…takes a while.
      I do worry ab the fire for the same reason…no services on Ketron.

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      • andyocoregon says:

        To the contrary, considering this incident just happened a few hours ago and the plane crashed on a remote island with few inhabitants, I’d say KATU did a pretty good job reporting the facts as they currently know them. And the story is complete with videos and witness statements already.

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        • piper567 says:

          andy, the Island is not at all remote…but it is sparsely populated. its only ab a mile from shore.
          All I was commenting on was the impression was given that “all these people” were ON the Island, and that’s impossible, as it must be accessed by seaplane or boat.
          Its only ab 3 miles from where I live, and I too talked with folks who saw the Jet crash. I am happy that Anyone was reporting on it!

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  23. rumpole2 says:

    Watching Genda free TV (Steve Lookner) live reports on the crashed plane.

    Not a terrorist..
    A guy who can operate a plane to take off, do barrel rolls, operate communication equipment…. but does not know how to land a plane. I seem to remember a similar “skill set” on another occasion.

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  24. Troublemaker10 says:

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    • Howie says:

      Amazing what you will catch if you drag a trillion dollars through the Swamp.

      Liked by 10 people

      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        “Bimbos, Sluts, Trailer Trash, Rednecks Sh*t Kickers.”
        — Hillary Clinton referring to Bill Clinton’s girl friends and other residents of Arkansas

        “These women are all trash. Nobody’s going to believe them.”
        — Hillary Clinton referring to the long list of women who claimed they have had “personal relationships” with then Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton

        “If you want to remain on this detail, get your f*cking ass over here and grab those bags.”
        — Hillary Clinton to her Secret Service agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident

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      • Is there even a vaccine for that?

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  25. JX says:

    The May 17, 2017 order authorized a special counsel to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

    1. any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump
    2. any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation

    The August 2, 2017 memo states allegations that Paul Manafort:

    • Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials
    • Commited a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government

    were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment (May 17, 2017).

    Therefor investigation of Manafort could not have arisen from the Special Counsel investigation (2) but from Comey’s investigation of “coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump” (1).

    Yet Manafort is charged with crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government, not from any crime of colluding with Russian government officials. Why would Comey be investigating payments to Manafort from the Ukrainian government? What do those payments have to do with the 2016 election?

    Perhaps Comey was not investigating these payments and Rosenstein is being deceptive.

    July 26, 2017 Manafort’s home is raided. Documents he was to present to Congress that day were seized. Given the DOJ’s ongoing campaign of concealment and obfuscation the question needs to be asked: was the true purpose of the raid to seize those documents? To conceal them from Congress?

    Was the August 2 memo cover for the raid? Is the prosecution of Manafort simply theater to “justify” the August 2 memo? To continue the campaign of innuendo against Trump, by any means necessary?

    Payments from the Ukrainian government have nothing to do with the 2016 election, nor do they require a Special Counsel to investigate. The Special Counsel is enriching himself.

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    • JX says:

      How could Mueller, on July 26, have known Ukrainian payments to Manafort were within scope?

      Either he didn’t know or, Comey was investigating those payments.

      How could those payments be construed as “coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump”?

      What other communications exist between Rosenstein and Muller?

      Rosenstein’s two memos conflict with each other.

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      • Good questions JX, that prompted some thoughts that might be pertinent:
        1) Rosenstein knew about Manafort’s tax issues, as he had investigated and declined prosecution some years earlier. If Rosenstein is nefarious, then he knew there were other charges that could be brought if need be, for cover. He undoubtedly would have shared this info with Mueller and his team (and perhaps some of the Mueller team worked for Rosey earlier? will investigate that…)
        2) At point of the raid on Manafort, I think Mueller’s team was looking to produce any potential culprits to justify his existence. Ukraine/Russia, remember to low info media and Dems, these are conflated as “where there is smoke there is fire”.

        Just thinkin’

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        • JX says:

          Mueller was appointed May 17 and by July 8 had hired 15 lawyers*. Seven weeks, 15 hires.

          Two and half weeks later, July 26, that team had advanced to the point of raiding Manafort.

          Ten weeks between appointment and raid. During those ten weeks he assembled a team, and the team conducted an investigation that advanced to the point of raiding Manafort.

          Or did they have a head start?

          Which goes to your points that Rosenstein knew about Manafort’s tax issues, gave that info to Mueller, and used that issue as a pretense to generate smoke.

          * https://www.npr.org/2017/07/08/535813901/special-counsel-mueller-lets-his-actions-do-the-talking-15-hires-more-to-come

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          • JX says:

            Why would Mueller, prior to July 26, have been investigating Ukrainian payments to Manafort? If he wasn’t, then the only alternate explanation for the raid is that it was due to investigation of “coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump” – for which there has never been any evidence.

            Why was only Manafort raided? Why not Lewandowski? Bannon? Bossie? Conway? etc etc

            Rosenstein’s memos and Mueller’s actions don’t add up.

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          • JX says:

            One other point…

            Why does the August 2 memo introduce allegations that Manafort “committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government”?

            Why did Rosenstein introduce these allegations unless they were the reason for the raid?

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  26. Troublemaker10 says:

    What’s new? Pretty much your flavor every week isn’t it?

    And, does anyone even read editorials anymore?

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  27. Troublemaker10 says:

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  28. Troublemaker10 says:

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  29. Troublemaker10 says:

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    • Chris Four says:

      The trade war is a cover for the real flash points with China.

      South China Sea the area lies between Vietnam and the Philippines and ove the past five years Chinahas been very busy. “the size and scale of China’s land-reclamation has intensified, with satellite evidence of military build-up and threats uttered to the rest of the world”

      East China Sea is a disputed region situated in the middle of China, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, believed to hold valuable natural resources.

      Korean Peninsula what occurs here is important to China’s future

      Taiwan Beijing sees the island as part of China, and is prepared to reunify the two nations by force if necessary, even though the island has its own self-ruling democratic government, and views itself as a sovereign nation.

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      • DanO64 says:

        I don’t hate to say this but if Clark and Subic Bay were still under U.S. control, we wouldn’t have this problem.

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        • daughnworks247 says:

          Pounding the table in agreement with Dan064.

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        • 🍺Gunny66 says:

          And I’d still be visiting the Subic Bay Marine Staff NCO club…(was the best in the world)

          And still have my girlfriends……sniff…..sniff….

          After the volcano destroyed almost everyone with the dust fall out….the Philippine government raised the price of the US keeping the bases….

          The US refused…….was a big mistake……..FedEx took over the airbase in Subic..

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        • Robert Smith says:

          Well the Phillipines should try to get some agreement with the US to protect their interests.

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      • Jedi9 says:

        “even though the island has its own self-ruling democratic government, and views itself as a sovereign nation.”

        But they never declared in a official capacity Independence!

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      • tomf says:

        Zero hedge gets no credit?

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    • paulraven1 says:

      I think he means conceding victory to Trump.

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    • Tesla
      Does that mean they are no longer brother and sister???

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    • StanH says:

      Yuk!

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      Comments on that are a hoot, too…

      Don’t know if they had any kids, but consanguineal procreation (inbreeding) often causes horrific birth defects, due to mitochondrial myopathies…

      And that’s just part of their problems. What in the world is wrong with Minnesota? What’s in those 10,000 lakes? Or are the skeeters carrying something?

      It used to be a conservative area… suspect Øbozo has something to do with this…

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      • Your tour guide says:

        Maybe this sounds out there….

        But I noticed which areas were gifted the most with
        the largest #s of Somalians. The winners? Maine and
        Minnesota. Now. Think like someone that has a thing
        against whites. What group would they probably think
        is the “whitest” of them all?

        I’m guessing that they think ” Scandinavian descent”.
        And, guess what? Minnesota and Maine both have a
        very large percentage of their population derived from
        scandinavian descent. If this makes sense, then the
        complete over run of Sweden ties into this same type
        of evil logic.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        Obama purposefully seeded “refugees” into politically opportune areas.

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  30. Dora says:

    Conservative Confusion About Who and What We’re Fighting

    An Ohio reminder: The worst Republican is better than the best Democrat.

    https://spectator.org/conservative-confusion-about-who-and-what-were-fighting/

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  31. Back home in Trump country Virginia about an hour outside Charlottesville. One year anniversary of Charlottesville disaster. People around here are on edge because we know everyone to protest this weekend ON BOTH SIDES aren’t from around here. Hope and pray the city isn’t another victim of Obama’s race war riots like Baltimore and Ferguson.

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  32. Tesla Coiled says:

    “Foster, of Dalton, is running against Republican incumbent Tom Graves of Ranger for the 14th Congressional District seat.”

    “The Composite State Board of Medical Examiners suspended Foster’s medical license indefinitely in October 2002, citing concerns that he was ‘unable to practice medicine with reasonable skill and safety to patients due to a psychiatric disorder.'”

    Crazy people lit on tequila can be a hoot… Film at 11.

    http://www.dailycitizen.news/news/local_news/i-hate-this-county-i-prayed-to-god-that-he/article_8c54d317-6930-55d9-b3e9-2e1458aa1bfa.html

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  33. duchess01 says:

    America’s Most Wanted, Profiles in Treason: John Brennan – This ‘Stooge For Jihad’ Should Be Facing The Gallows For Subverting President Trump In Deep State Plot To Overthrow America

    August 11, 2018

    https://www.sgtreport.com/2018/08/americas-most-wanted-profiles-in-treason-john-brennan-this-stooge-for-jihad-should-be-facing-the-gallows-for-subverting-president-trump-in-deep-state-plot-to-overthrow-america/

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  34. Dora says:

    So, this is the story the other side is pushing. A lot at stake indeed!

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  35. Chris Four says:

    From Erdogan NYTimes op-ed
    “In recent weeks, the United States has taken a series of steps to escalate tensions with Turkey, citing the arrest by the Turkish police of an American citizen, Andrew Brunson, on charges of aiding a terrorist organization. Instead of respecting the judicial process, as I urged President Trump to do in our many meetings and conversations, the United States issued blatant threats against a friendly nation and proceeded to impose sanctions on several members of my cabinet. This decision was unacceptable, irrational and ultimately detrimental to our longstanding friendship.
    To convey that Turkey does not respond to threats, we retaliated by sanctioning multiple American officials. Moving forward, we will abide by the same principle: Attempting to force my government to intervene in the judicial process is not in line with our Constitution or our shared democratic values.”

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  36. Dora says:

    What a wonderful man! He brings some hope to Italy!

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  37. amwick says:

    This was another item raised in the twitterverse, it is something that I am really ticked off about in general..
    Basically, one person wrote a note to Kamala Harris,, suggesting that she was not a natural born citizen because, although born in the US, neither of her parents were citizens at the time. The actual meaning of the phrase natural born has been argued and debated… but in general, I don’t think presidential eligibility requirements have been nailed down. It seems to be an issue that is pushed aside. I am personally in favor of the most restrictive requirements, but I understand the scope of the debate. I just wish it were finally dealt with. The single most important job in our country should not have this kind of vague and hand waiving type of rule. That is no rule at all.

    Here is the letter, you can read it if interested… it goes back to Dec of 2017. I guess there just is not enough interest in this to actually do anything.. https://www.thepostemail.com/2017/12/04/california-constituent-sen-kamala-harris-not-natural-born-citizen/

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      Natural born citizen means BOTH parents are citizens of the country in question, and the person in question (child of those parents) was born on the soil/territory of the country in question.

      Goes back to British law… A few people here have covered this at length.

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      • amwick says:

        Oh I agree with that 100%, but the truth is other people don’t and there is this debate. Kamala Harris is not a natural born citizen(IMO), she is more of an anchor baby.. but when will we have some official clarification?

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  38. PaulM says:

    I just read that a “unauthorized person” took a Alaska Airlines plane from Seattle and it was engaged by a couple of F-15’s and then crashed. Not much info at the site.
    Anyone got better data?

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  39. teeheeman says:

    Just hit the CTH TIP JAR again – great, great stuff being reported and the pressure needs to continue right into November!!

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  40. Dora says:

    Hang Him High!

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  41. paulraven1 says:

    Gavin MacInnes and his entire Proud Boy members of men and women have been permanently banned from twitter. The Left’s corporate censorship marches on.

    This is in advance of the false-flag “Unite the Right” event, which the Left is desperate to tie to all conservatives and to Trump (despite Proud Boys denouncing it and having nothing to do with it). Remember the last rally and how quickly certain GOPers tore into Trump (Scott, Rubio, Romney)? It was a set-up and they had their scripts ready. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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  42. Dora says:

    The Democratic National Committee Just Walked Back Its Rejection of Fossil Fuels

    Well, that was short-lived.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/the-democratic-national-committee-is-walking-back-its-rejection-of-fossil-fuels

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  43. youme says:

    Mueller is just like Erdogan but where Erdogan has locked up half of Turkey, Mueller will end up subpoenaing half of America

    Mueller now subpoena’s a prostitute known as the “Manhattan Madam”

    WASHINGTON (AP) — An associate of former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone was held in contempt of court Friday in a fresh attempt to challenge Robert Mueller’s appointment as the special counsel investigating Trump campaign contacts with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign.

    The move also spotlighted a growing focus by Mueller on Stone. Another of Stone’s associates, a New Yorker known as the “Manhattan Madam” because she once operated an upscale escort service, was expected to make her first appearance before a grand jury in the case.

    https://apnews.com/e6f2b7b7c6014f0e97d35005f8c6018c

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  44. Henry says:

    What did the Soviets due to their friends and families during the 1950s? They read them out to the KGB for any reason whatsoever. No questions. No answers. People just got taken off to the gulags.

    The brown shirts are going to come for you. They will still attack Trump but I think we’re all going to find that people that we work with and for, who know what our political leanings are will put pressure on the employer and us out of work. Is she is the next logical step in this campaign of fear, Misinformation and disinformation.

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  45. oldschool says:

    So few know of the very long list of POTUS’ accomplishments. Heck, even we can’t keep track of them. Communication has been one of Trump’s biggest challenges since he won the election. Like it or not, his voters are not showing up in the numbers we need to give him majorities. Not talking waves, talking actual numbers in the last 2 years since the general election. He HAS TO motivate his voters and those who walked away or sat out the general election. We want those voters who would not pull a lever for HRC, but thought Trump was a joke. Show them he’s not.

    I was very impressed by TRex first speech. His “walk around the globe” captured my full attention immediately. Such a comprehensive and informative format. I truly believe the msm has done a job in marginalizing and categorizing PDJT as nothing more than a realty TV, fake POTUS. I also believe that to many voters, too many of his tweets support that narrative. I know almost everyone here cheers every tweet, but millions of Trump voters do not and we need those voters to show up.

    I would love to see Trump spend a bit of his time and communication with the citizenry in a serious and “presidential” manner. As it’s often pointed out here ” he can walk and chew gum at the same time”. Perhaps a series of ovals and do a “walk around the cabinet”. Take each cabinet member and their agencies and highlight, in bullet points what has been done. Where applicable, have real people who have felt the positive outcomes of Trump policies. So many here have expressed the need to spoon feed the masses in itty bitty bits of 64d chess before the sting can be launched. Imo, that is insulting, but the public has been starved of real and factual policy information and the midterms are approaching. Msm isn’t going to feed the masses anything but garbage. Mr. President, open your cabinet to the public. Feed them factual information.

    Either that or nuke’em😉

    Rainy Saturday morning thoughts.

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    • Tom! says:

      So true, oldschool.

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    • Somebody says:

      I think your idea has merit, but would the MSM cover such an address? If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it. Also, could the D’s make hay about such an address as being campaign material, not allowed from the oval office, blah, blah. A policy address is allowed on a specific topic.

      Any and all of these issues are for Bill Shine to work out, he is now communications director. How about a more subtle approach? The MSM is inherently lazy, they ran pre-packaged stories and video provided by the WH all through O and even some during W. So how about the communications office get a film crew together and prepare some highlights and real people impacted stories. Don’t necessarily focus on POTUS, at least not initially, since he’s a lightening rod for most of the MSM. Focus instead on a particular program or policy and its impact. Try a few of those, provide them and see if the media runs any. Start softening around the edges and then go bolder.

      As to POTUS’s tweets, many of the voters you mention have no access to his tweets and only hear about them via MSM. My mother is a classic example. She watches FNC 24/7, still loves the Bush family to pieces, but Reagan more. Yes, she thinks POTUS is crass, etc., however she is fully aware of how successful he’s been. Maybe not fully aware, but she knows the economy is doing well, taxes are down, things are more peaceful overseas.

      So the message is getting out. People see changes all around them. I don’t know how you counter the MSM narrative, you can’t force people to unplug nor can you force positive MSM coverage. There are ways around MSM, but those methods don’t reach the people you are speaking of. Maybe more low tech like mailers? A mid-term report from the office of POTUS? IDK, I’m spitballing.

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      • No need to fuss about how our Lion and his administration isn’t getting this done. This is happening every single week. And it is no small effort to provide this. Just because it’s not on the DNC controlled slave media outlets does not mean the material has not been created and made available. It simply means that the Trumpians have not managed to get it in front of the eyes of the Eyeores.

        https://www.youtube.com/user/whitehouse

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  47. Islamic Narcissism
    Hajji taking selfie in his pressed thwab.
    His wife showing off 1000 thread count burka.

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