More Communication Between Chris Steele and Bruce Ohr is “Leaked”?….

There’s something about the construct of these releases that just doesn’t pass the proverbial sniff test.  John Solomon –SEE HERE–  Sara Carter –SEE HERE– and Byron York –SEE HERE– each writing articles from what appears to be the same sourcing and reference framework; however, each being very opaque in describing their sourcing and context.

The transparent lack of providing the sourcing context (who is providing the information/documents and why are they providing it), for their seemingly coordinated articles has the historic hallmark of controlled narrative distribution.  I’ll come back to that….  for now, let’s look at the Solomon release where he provides the documents to support his authorship.  Go read it HERE.

The key takeaway within the 2017 communication between Bruce Ohr and Chris Steele, seemingly glossed over amid the granular presentation, is that Christopher Steele viewed Special Counsel Robert Mueller as part of the “small group team.”   The fact that Steele viewed Mueller as an extension of the Strzok, Comey, Page and McCabe objective is a rather big deal, yet generally not given much attention.

You can call it a soft-coup, or you can call it politicization of the DOJ and FBI, but the end result is the same – the intentional effort to manipulate, influence, and ultimately subvert an election for the presidency of the United States.  ~SD

Here are the documents as provided to, and released by, John Solomon:

Again, the key takeaway here is that Christopher Steele viewed Robert Mueller and the team as allies in an ideological quest…. and throughout 2017 DOJ Bruce Ohr did nothing to dissuade Steele from holding that opinion.  Ergo, Robert Mueller is part of the Deep State coup attempt.

Overlay on this timeline the internal interviews (within the DOJ/FBI) with Bruce Ohr who was participating in the communication as outlined in the FD-302 release:

Senator Chuck Grassley letter to Rod Rosenstein (Page 5, footnote #5) outlines the FBI interviews of twice demoted DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr:

Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 11/22/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 12/05/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 12/12/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/27/16 (interview date 12/20/16);
Ohr FD-302 01/27/17 (interview date 01/27/17);
Ohr FD-302 01/31/17 (interview date 01/23/17);
Ohr FD-302 01/27/17 (interview date 01/25/17);
Ohr FD-302 02/08/17 (interview date 02/06/17);
Ohr FD-302 02/15/17 (interview date 02/14/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/10/17 (interview date 05/08/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/12/17 (interview date 05/12/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/16/17 (interview date 05/15/17).

Also worth overlaying is the communication between lobbyist Adam Waldman as Waldman was working as a go-between for contact between Chris Steele and Vice-Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee Senator Mark Warner:


That’s the raw data.  CTH is trying to avoid selling a specific narrative, because it appears John Solomon, Sara Carter and Byron York are doing exactly that.  Something isn’t OK here… my spidey senses are setting off alarm bells.

Who is giving these documents to John Solomon?   Why are they giving these documents to John Solomon?  What is the purpose of giving these documents to John Solomon?

EXAMPLE:  […]  The exchange – one of several in which Steele proposed a return to the Russia probe – has captured the attention of investigators in Congress and the Department of Justice (DOJ). Some of them told me they are stunned that a top Rosenstein aide would even consider restoring Steele to the case, and with good reason.  […] in a private letter to Congress, shown to me, Rosenstein declared he was unaware of Ohr’s activities with Steele. Ohr was “not assigned to the Russia investigation and he was not in the chain of command,” Rosenstein wrote. “Any involvement Mr. Ohr had in this matter was without my knowledge.”

There is a motive to leaking this information to John Solomon.

Who are the “investigators” within congress AND the DOJ that are so willing to give documents to Solomon to support his reporting?

My own cynical review takes me back to the recent release of the FISA application and the mysterious unredacted date (3/17/17) that allowed us to connect-the-dots and see how the Senate Intelligence Committee had the original, full and unredacted FISA application… which was transparently leaked by James Wolfe…. and yet no-one caught it or reported on it… and the media were/are hiding their knowledge therein…. and Wolfe was never charged by the DOJ with leaking it.

Essentially, what the sum total of all of this tells me is: the battle of White Hats -vs- Black Hats, inside the institutions of the DOJ/FBI, continues.

There is a specific intent on covering-up the severity of the corruption within the DOJ and FBI; and there is some entity…. some small and obscure -yet motivated- entity… within the institution; that is trying to head-off the cover-up.

This is all happening while congress is out-of-session for August.  So, who is the controlling entity here delivering these leaks?

Are they leaks?… or are they “controlled releases”?

Why only Solomon, Carter and York?

Sorry, but I have more questions than answers and my own intellectual trust meter is pegged in the red; as CTH anticipates a likelihood this is the traditional chaff and countermeasures approach to the Deep Swamp cover-up.

If there wasn’t a cover-up in the works, there would be no need to hide the James Wolfe leak of the highly classified FISA application…. and he would be under indictment for it.


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744 Responses to More Communication Between Chris Steele and Bruce Ohr is “Leaked”?….

  1. KBR says:

    Keeping all the connections straight in re: Adam Waldman…

    Here I found an interesting article that links up the following persons.

    I presume we can add Bruce and Nellie Ohr and Mark Warner to the list of “turncoats.”



  2. Skippy says:

    What about Justice Department official Bruce Ohr’s role?
    The Nunes memo argues that information from former Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr should have been disclosed to the FISA court, including Steele’s comments to Ohr about Trump and that Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS. The Schiff memo argues that Ohr’s role was mischaracterized in the Nunes memo and his interactions with Steele were overstated.
    Nunes memo: “Before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he maintained contact with DOJ via then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOJ official who worked closely with Deputy Attorneys General Yates and later Rosenstein. Shortly after the election, the FBI began interviewing Ohr, documenting his communications with Steele. For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to Ohr his feelings against then-candidate Trump when Steele said he ‘was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not, being president.’ This clear evidence of Steele’s bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files — but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications. During this same time period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump. Ohr later provided the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC.”

    Schiff memo: “The Majority’s reference to Bruce Ohr is misleading. The Majority mischaracterizes Bruce Ohr’s role, overstates the significance of his interactions with Steele, and misleads about the timeframe of Ohr’s communication with the FBI. In late November 2016, Ohr informed the FBI of his prior professional relationship with Steele and information that Steele shared with him (including Steele’s concern about Trump being compromised by Russia). He also described his wife’s contract work with Fusion GPS, the firm that hired Steele separately. This occurred weeks after the election and more than a month after the Court approved the initial FlSA application. The Majority describes Bruce Ohr as a senior DOJ official who ‘worked closely with the Deputy Attorney General, Yates and later Rosenstein,’ in order to imply that Ohr was somehow involved in the FlSA process, but there is no indication this is the case.”

    PS. Please see Sundance above!


    • covfefe999 says:

      In late November 2016, Ohr informed the FBI of his prior professional relationship with Steele and information that Steele shared with him (including Steele’s concern about Trump being compromised by Russia). He also described his wife’s contract work with Fusion GPS, the firm that hired Steele separately.

      Ol’ Nellie started working for Fusion GPS in like May. So Bruce waited til late November to let the FBI know? Total CYA move, nobody is stupid enough to think it’s anything else. Trump won the election and Bruce and Nellie and the rest of the traitors were in a panic because they knew they were going to be found out.

      And during all of 2017 Christopher Steele was in a panic because he didn’t know what was going to happen to him and all of that info about him was coming out.

      I want justice, I want people to end up in prison, but this slow torture is kind of fun to watch.

      Liked by 1 person

  3. CopperTop says:

    Lindsay Graham front and center. I know Sara Carter has a good past reporter rapport with him/staff. I’m going to say with LG getting quoted by Trump in tweets. That his staff is source of what’s being put out by York, Carter, Solomon…

    I have lost track what team he is on…so to SD worry…

    I defer…to those here who know where SD leans on Lindsay Graham being near anything we see in the press?


  4. Doppler says:

    After rereading these three articles and the actual documents John Solomon disclosed, and the many invaluable comments and links here (what a treasure), I’ve noticed some other things:

    Each journalist got different parts of the Ohr documents:

    – Solomon got Ohr-Steele dialogue about getting Steele back into the FBI’s get-Trump game.
    – Carter got to see various things, including Ohr’s handwritten notes of meetings in November 2016 with Page, Strzok and Pientka, getting an update on the status of the investigation (unauthorized according to Rosenstein’s understanding of chain of command).
    – York got Ohr-Steele dialogue concerning Deripaska’s interfaces with DOJ and USG – describing detailed dialogue likely in the same form as Solomon got, but from different dates.

    Three fundamental questions are: what role was Deripaska playing? What role was Steele playing? What role was Ohr playing? A fourth is why do these three have a working relationship, who told them to collaborate?

    Only Steele had a formal role in the FBI’s official investigation of Trump, and he was fired, disavowed, disqualified early on by some in the FBI DOJ concerned with how his involvement looked, after it became clear Steele had leaked to the press and lied about it. But whoever fired Steele didn’t control Ohr’s interactions with Steele at all, which continued on multiple topics, and were outside normal channels. Having unofficial channels open from DOJ out to Steele and Deripaska, concerning official investigations and other actions ongoing within the Department outside of Ohr’s responsibilities seems to lay bare a channel of political or corrupt influence seeking to steer DOJ actions and investigations where no such influence is proper or ordinarily permitted.

    So Sundance’s questions about what does this coordinated, multi-pronged leak signify – who’s leaking and why – is a great question. Three fires lit in three different rooms at the same time seem designed to burn down the whole house.


    • CopperTop says:

      The nugget from Steele that sticks with me is he asks Ohr to put him touch with you has been “briefed..” Explosive choice of words.Especially since this is well after inauguration.

      “Briefed” is a very specific operational context to word it like that. This can only be said by Steele if he is ‘live’ operationally – OR-

      Take his request to Ohr to the 1000th foot level…. if Ohr puts him (Steele) in touch with someone who is ‘briefed’ he is sharing with Steele exactly who has been a part of classified briefings …which makes Ohr in this situation as a turncoat being ‘run’ by a the foreign agent— Steele


  5. Tiana says:

    Don’t know if somebody already asked these questions… unfortunately I don’t have time to read all 720 comments…

    How do we know these leaked, so-called documents are real and not made up by somebody?… Couldn’t these messages be made up to lead us down a wrong path?…

    My impression is that somebody wants the Russia narrative to keep going… with new info… Steele several time states that supposedly he wants to be re-instated to assist… that he has more info… that he wants the truth to come to light… THEIR TRUTH…

    just my thoughts…


    • Tiana says:

      And all of the reporters are conservatives… articles that might be read by the new POTUS supporters…. not the hard core supporters but people that may just have discovered that the MSM and democrats lie… people that are not sure yet on POTUS and the republican party…

      I think, it is made up documents… that are leaked to conservative news sites to make possible new 2018 republican party voters, that are still not sure what to do… doubt POTUS and stick with the evil they know… the democratic party…

      as I said… just my opinion…


    • CopperTop says:

      I have answered your question indirectly.

      We know from the Glenn Simpson testimony there are questions coming from redacted name individuals that specifically get at


      Simpson and Steele and Bruce Ohr communicated.

      UNTIL Steele was outed as a FBI informant by actual documentation leaked last week…the connection was mere conjecture…

      It’s OVER…all the reporting will now be outing the entire operation…regardless of what the FISA says…

      Sandra VA mentioned a great point that the FISA IG report will be out soonish…

      Remember Ptrump says his campaign was spied on. That’s all we need to know. There was a spy operation and it’s taken this long to get it out.

      The 3 reporters are certain of the documents because they have confirmation from court records they also would have been showed that have not been released yet and they are most likely sourced outside of the US where things are not sealed but you would have to know to go look for them. The good GCHQ is probably helping fix the tarnish that Steele placed on the organization through all this.


    • CopperTop says:

      Tiana…Doppler also has a very well done summary…

      12:14 pm
      A question I have pondered is, “who’s in charge?” Who imagined, then recruited, guided, and held accountable, the implementers of this gigantic crime against nature? And what do the Ohr – Steele texts tell us on this topic?

      In December 2015, John Podesta was being advised by Brett Budowsky, “best strategy is to slaughter Donald for his bromance with Putin.”

      The alleged voice of Sy Hersh in a phonerant released last August, claiming inside sources at the FBI, is that it was “f******John Brennan” who set the whole operation up.

      Of course, Hillary wanted for herself the prize of power, knew she and everyone with her “will hang if that SOB wins?” She had the balls and the rage and the corruption to play that title role, seems too stupid to have put together anything so complex and subtle.

      We have Soros checking in with DWS to make sure Lynch wouldn’t let the email investigation “go too far,” which suggests a strong interest in the outcome, but not hands-on control. He’s more a corrupting source of funding, able to spend freely to achieve his policy objectives, i.e., dictate policy to the Democratic establishment, but his realm is making money off of that influence, the short-selling leveraged hedge fund way.

      Obama, the great listener, who could make a speech, always struck me as incompetent, when it comes to running things, dependent on others over which he lacked the vision and insight to exercise effective control. He just wanted his party to retain control, even if that meant he had to help Hillary.

      These texts tell me it was an intelligence operation. First, Steele’s name is redacted throughout, although Bruce calls him Chris and that is not redacted? Why? Perhaps he self-identifies as “Agent 007?” or some such, reflecting his ongoing work for MI6? Or more likely, the names are as reflected in Bruce’s contact list, and the name Bruce gave him is not “Chris Steele” but says something about Steele that someone doesn’t want revealed yet. Steele refers to his “wife and partners,” who have bought into his return to helping Ohr and the FBI’s, but as if separate from “my colleagues” whose permission he also has, or assurance that they would not stand in the way. Colleagues would indicate British Intelligence, as if Brennan sought help in UK, which cooperated, its head resigning with lame excuse just after Trump won. Steele refers to “perishable operational opportunities,” (what could those be? does the timing of the Skripal poisonings coincide?)

      So I think at some point, this project was envisioned and directed by some combination of Brennan, Podesta, Hillary. I suspect that McCabe, Strzok, the Ohrs, were CIA assets planted at DOJ, working their way around e.g., Comey, Yates, Lynch, Rosenstein, who were too “establishment bureaucrat” or “political animal” to be in the inner circle.

      I agree with much of the speculation here about Assange and his significance in everything. He blew the whistle on Podesta’s and Clinton’s corruption, found himself confronted with a false story of “what really happened” endorsed by “the 17 US intelligence agencies” uniting behind the Russia collusion narrative, then blew the whistle on the CIA’s Vault 7, the very tools needed to create the “evidence” needed to “prove” the false intelligence agency claims. Note that Joshua Adam Schulte is under indictment in SDNY for disclosing Vault 7 to Assange, AND for maintaining child pornography on his server. He recently wrote a lengthy hand-written letter to his judge asserting he can prove his innocence on all fronts (handwritten pleadings I guess don’t make it onto PACER). Whoever disclosed Vault 7 to Wikileaks could’ve been motivated to strike a blow against CIA’s ability to hack people and blame others.

      As to the leaking of these texts at this time to these journos, I agree it smacks of the same timed disclosure of the Strzok-Page texts, which seemed triggered by the Flynn guilty plea, and coincided with Contreras’s unexplained recusal, Judge Sullivan’s replacement and sua sponte order to Mueller to disclose all Brady materials to Flynn, likely a trap for DOJ/FBI people knowingly concealing matters such as altered 302s. And coming shortly after Q anon first appeared. And of a piece with the disclosure of the Warner – Waldman texts. Warner, too, may be a CIA asset, replacing Feinstein as Vice Chair of SSCI, just as Trump took office, Feinstein’s top aide left to raise a new $50M to pay for the continuation of Fusion’s work to destroy Trump, then brazenly working through Deripaska’s lawyer trying to set up a private meeting with Steele.

      How to reconcile Steele’s texts with Ohr and Warner’s texts with Waldman as a go-between to Steele? Why would Steele be so coy with Warner, while so pushy with Ohr? Can’t figure that one out, unless Warner was not CIA, just a pol, and therefore not to be trusted by real spooks.

      Great article, Sundance, and great discussion, Treepers. Almost all the news on this topic fit to print.

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  6. covfefe999 says:

    Maybe Steele leaked them because he’s fearing that his US comrades (Ohr, Warner, Schiff, etc) are throwing him under the bus and he wants to make sure everyone knows he wasn’t operating in a vacuum.


  7. xcontra says:

    The timing of the re-engagement hurry up messages in late June is about the time Peter Strzok was getting canned by Mueller. So Strzok was the agent of re-engagement, right, Mr. Sundance?


  8. Republicanvet91 says:

    Perhaps others have noted, but just what jumps out as I read the communictions:

    The very chummy chats between the two suggest they had been communicating for some months prior to the dates on these communications.
    Most of these seem to be from Steele. Why leak only one side of the conversation? A warning to Bruce? Others? Why would they not have both sides? Or why do parts seem to be missing? It seems whatever Bruce was saying would be rather interesting.
    Given the dates on these, and just guessing, but many of these communications would have been after Ohr was interviewed multiple times by the FBI, and after he was demoted twice. Or am I missing something?

    Hmmm. The Senate Intel Committee leaking like a sieve? Common knowledge.
    Whatsapp call? So, I wonder if the news reports on this from several months ago was a heads-up to certain people that the app may not be as secure in hiding communications as they thought.
    Anything “we” could do from this end? Who else was Steele working with in London?

    Whether Steele thought Mueller was a part of the team or not, he clearly understood whatever he (Steele) was providing was making it’s way to Mueller.

    As for the white hat vs black hat battle, who leaked this and why, is it possible the black hats have leaked this to make Ohr be the sole fall guy?


  9. jameswlee2014 says:

    I would not be a bit surprised if a member of or the leader of the White Hats recently retired as NSA Director.


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