Act II – The Dance of The Dragon Continues….

China controls the DPRK, that’s the baseline reality.  The question debated over the past several years, has been to what extent?  Having witnessed the Singapore Summit, perhaps we now have additional understanding of the scale and scope.

Kim Jong-un “is” the Panda Mask.

If you accept the cunning nature of the Beijing Dragon, and the false geopolitical face of the Panda mask as historically presented by the control elements now represented by Chairman Xi Jinping, a striking probability looms.  Not only does China influence North Korea, but China actually controls every element of the North Korean government that surrounds Chairman Kim Jong-un.

The problem for Chairman Xi is what happens when all of the political forces align to place Chairman Kim Jong-un in a position of opening the door for the U.S. and President Trump and the West (writ large) to enter North Korea under the auspices of a CVID nuclear agreement.

In essence, President Trump may now enter into a land where the officials report exclusively to Chairman Xi, and no-one knew.  This presents a possibility the larger global community might soon discover the true nature of the Beijing/Pyongyang connection.

Consider that Chairman Kim was/is likely put into power not as a linear out-coming of his familial relationship, but more as a strategy of ongoing Chinese duplicity. Kim Jong-un was seen as easier to control.  Consider the possibility that all of the DPRK officials who carry out the objectives of the ruling North Korean government are factually operating according to the dictates of the hidden Chinese authority.

Within this dynamic Chairman Kim received the scorn of the international community; but was -in reality- merely a figurehead, a false panda face – hiding the true authority behind all of the DPRK policy, and a designed strategy constructed by China.

Consider that by confronting the economic interests of China, President Trump fractured the decades-long ruse, and is now positioned to expose the nature of the Chinese ruling authority within North Korea.   This becomes a stunning paradigm shift; a reality that few could possibly fathom, unless you consider the cunning of Beijing.

Under this scenario, it is adverse to the interest of China for a united, open and democratic Korean peninsula where the North and South are together again.  It would be particularly adverse to Xi’s interests if the U.S., Japan and a united Korea formed any substantive  international alliance.

The best play for China would be to control the outcomes of any unification and position China as the control agent for any united Korea.  This would be critically important if, as I am now increasingly confident, North Korea was/is actually a proxy province of China and has been for decades under the complete -albeit hidden- rule of the Chinese authority.

Under this scenario, Chairman Xi has to play a very careful game of geopolitical cunning; and if at any moment he sees Chairman Kim accepting the rescue of President Trump, Xi will likely move to eliminate Kim and defend his interests quickly.

Imagine the internal stress upon the young Kim Jong-un who has been forced to ride this dragon for almost a decade, and knows his government is not actually his government but rather a governing body with all officials reporting to Beijing.

Imagine you are the next-door-neighbor to an abused child who lives inside the palace of the abuser.  The abuse has been psychological and manipulative upon this child for decades. How do you rescue him?  Additionally, how do you rescue him when the ultimate abuser is the king of all communities, governments, political and legal systems in/around the palace?… and only you know the nature of the dynamic….

What if….

Kim has not been victimized by the Panda mask, but rather Kim IS THE Panda mask.

Start there, and proceed with the geopolitical rescue efforts accordingly.

This presented scenario, while challenging the customary perspective, reconciles all of the conflicting aspects to the North Korean regime with the latest known empirical evidence.





Now, WATCH AGAIN, without the volume:


PS. Notice how normally POTUS Trump has been effusive of praise upon Xi Jinping. However, after the one-on-one with Chairman Kim, that praise was considerably less….

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532 Responses to Act II – The Dance of The Dragon Continues….

  1. Phil Free says:

    This would also help explain one of the photos you posted, Sundance —
    the one from Feb. 2013, labeled kimfail …

    Is this Kim’s family, relatives? The two women in front look flat-out terrified. *Terrified!*
    Even his sister (I think that’s his sister, right? to his left, wearing white) looks quite unhappy.
    The guy-in-uniform must be a Controller/Handler.

    I would love to know the story behind this photo..

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  2. keeler says:

    Worth recalling the history of North Korea.

    It was under Soviet, not PRC, control that the DPRK formed. The Soviets withdrew their ground forces in 1948 but Kim ll-sung answered to Stalin. Prior to the beginning of the Korean Civil War, there was tension between Stalin and Kim about starting the conflict, though Stalin ultimately gave his approval with the understanding no Soviet ground troops would become involved and Mao would send PRC troops in if necessary under the cover of Soviet air support.

    Chinese troops entered North Korean territory on October 19, 1950 and began attacking UN forces on the 25th. On December 17, 1950 the PRC denied Kim ll-sung authority to command the Korean People’s Army.

    Thus we see a shift of North Korea from the Soviet bloc to direct PRC military control by 1951. It is logical to assume Mao never gave up that control and that the Kim dynasty has served at Beijing’s indulgence ever since.

    Furthermore, it is notable that North Korea’s missile and nuclear programs began in the mid-1990s, a time when the PRC began the process of reclaiming historically Chinese territory (Macau, Hong Kong) and renewed making noise about Taiwan. Considered in this context, one could interpret the North Korean arms programs as an extension of the PRC’s strategic planning in the Western Pacific

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    • Fools Gold says:

      Yes and this was the Chinese response to the sale of 120 US made F16’s to Taiwan by whom?

      Liked by 1 person

    • Oren V says:

      China gives away nothing. THey took NK after the Korean war.

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    • scott467 says:

      “Thus we see a shift of North Korea from the Soviet bloc to direct PRC military control by 1951. It is logical to assume Mao never gave up that control and that the Kim dynasty has served at Beijing’s indulgence ever since.”


      Which means in the photo showing Eric Schmidt (Google) and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (Clinton Clan member) in North Korea, they were not there as agents of/to North Korea, but instruments of China.

      And who knows how many other tech industry leaders are committing treason against America on behalf of China.

      Q says Eric Schmidt isn’t sleeping well.

      So sad.

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  3. Richard Whitney says:

    China has done its best to offend every neighbor. It is claiming small islands to offend Japan, Korea, the Philippines and Viet Nam. Tibet? The Uighurs? Distrust the Han. Russia smiles in photo ops, but they have disliked and distrusted China forever. Cambodia, Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, all are welcoming to the United States who they see as a counter to their oversized aggressive neighbor.
    I am not sure that NK has becoming an adversary to China, but now NK can join the rest of Asia.

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  4. daughnworks247 says:

    Okay Sundance, we’re game. We’re following along.
    PDJT uses 9 levels of hell (Mnuchin/Ross/USS Carter parked off the beach/UN Sanctions/59 missiles into Syria over chocolate cake) to put pressure on China (from Pakistan to Venezuela) and PDJT claims he will stop American trade war if PDJT gets help from Xi on DPRK.
    Xi says okay, fine.
    Big state visit in China.
    Xi and PDJT dance for months. Xi needs help on XTE, and PDJT wants hostages.
    Xi agrees to Singapore but can’t resist double dealing, last minute Kim visit to China, and violations of UN sanctions off-loading fuel to DPRK.
    We assume Xi knew about Pompeo visit to Kim in April – maybe from the 3 Generals who are no more
    PDJT is mad because of language – cancels Summit.
    Kim and General dispatched to mend fences, Summit is back on again.
    Kim fires generals. .
    Meanwhile, Pompeo and PDJT are talking to Kim and #2 General Chol (?spelling).
    At what Xi thinks is the end, DPRK giving up nuclear weapons, just at the moment Xi believes he has ensured continuation of liberal trade policy with the USA….
    ….PDJT surprises, wants more.
    And now….
    PDJT is flipping Chairman Kim.
    Freeing Kim and opening North Korea to a bunch of capitalists.
    And trade with USA is still not settled.
    Xi must be terrified. He’s been snookered.
    PDJT is the American Lion who never relents.
    And that Lion is coming back to Xi, knocking on Beijing’s door, today, tomorrow, next week, wanting more concessions on trade. We will get many more concessions too, because 70 billion “it’s not enough”.
    The country of DPRK just became a bargaining chip, moved from “firmly” Chinese to
    “leaning” USA. PDJT was playing a game of Go Fish with Xi and just took his cards.
    It is glorious to watch.
    President Trump is teaching us all how to be winners again.

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    • Child of Morning says:

      But if one of the prizes for winning is North Korea, maybe it would be better to pass on winning.


      • keeler says:

        The Trump administration does not see North Korea as a prize.

        The Trump administration sees North Korea as geo-political leverage for the PRC.

        Winning does not require obtaining North Korea. Winning requires neutralizing North Korea’s value to the PRC: at minimum by removing the immediate threat of its weapons programs and ideally by forcing the PRC to take public ownership of its relationship with North Korea.

        A neutralized North Korea weapons program can always be reactivated should another Clinton-Bush-Obama type be inflicted upon the United States. However, should the PRC be forced to admit it controls North Korea, the window of what it can force North Korea to do to intimidate the West becomes narrowed.

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        • Aparition42 says:

          Precisely. President Trump has offered to help defend North Korea as part of a denuclearization agreement. Defend against whom exactly? Japan and South Korea are already part of the alliance. If North Korea throws in with us and officially ends open hostilities with SoKo, who’s the most threatening Big Bad in the region?

          The “prize” is breaking the sabre that China always rattles when things aren’t going their way. President Trump is going to walk into Xi’s house, give his prized attack dog a biscuit, put a leash on him, and walk him right out the door while Xi stands there with his mouth agape.

          Later, the President will return to have a nice long chat with Xi about those unfair trade practices.

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          • motreehouse says:

            President Trump is going to walk into Xi’s house, give his prized attack dog a biscuit, put a leash on him, and walk him right out the door while Xi stands there with his mouth agape.

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          • sturmudgeon says:

            do not fall into the trap of being TOO Cocky! China has been in this world much longer than the USA!


            • Aparition42 says:

              Not True. The current government of China started in 1949. The communists deliberately set out to destroy most of the ancient culture and history of China that predates 1949. The current constitution of China was just ratified in 1982. Contrary to the rest of the world’s vanities, the United States is actually one of the oldest countries in the world if you measure from the establishment of the current system of government. Even the older unbroken lines of monarchy in Europe have more recently been subjugated by the formation of the EU.

              Regardless, I don’t think President Trump is being too cocky. Nor am I unrealistic in my expectations for the future. However, for the sake of my own sanity and quality of life, I have decided to choose optimism. It’s my contrarian way of rebelling against the opposition’s constant barrage of pessimism and panic. The want us afraid. They want us demoralized. They want us so paranoid of repeating the pasts’ pattern of repeated self-sabotage that we become over cautious and overly self-critical to the point of nipping at each other’s heals and self-fulfilling all their prophecies about our movement’s inevitable collapse.

              In short, they want you as depressed, miserable, and scared as they are. The best way to combat the enemy’s fear mongering is with hopeful optimism. A little cockiness doesn’t hurt either.


      • Basil says:

        Ah, but if you think like a Real Estate Tycoon — North Korea is a prize called “blank slate.” It has no hotels, resorts, malls, luxury homes, infrastructure, few cities, etc. and it has Koreans by the millions.

        Liked by 8 people

        • daughnworks247 says:

          The opportunity t develop a country from scratch is too good to pass up.
          PLUS, PDJT still gets the trade concessions.
          To have capitalists on their border is NOT what the PRC wanted….
          at all.
          Just when China was expanding, into the China Sea and Belt-Road, here’s the Americans, moving in next door!!!!!!!!!!!

          Liked by 9 people

        • Sunshine says:

          But it will have hotels, resorts, golf courses, and whatever. Remember Trump spoke of the beautiful beaches in North Korea.


      • suejeanne1 says:

        IMHO PDJT sees North Korea as people who need to be free in their own country, not controlled by anyone. As Melania said, he has a big heart, he wants to help – she wanted people to see who her husband really is, so kind (I thought it was wonderful when they were both in Texas after Hurricane Harvey, handing out supplies to people and he was getting loving feedback from people, including one dear lady who said she prayed for him every time she sees him on the tv)

        I think first of all he looks at relationships and if the relationship is good, good things will come of it – he wants everything to be gorgeous, beautiful, strong – the beautiful feeling of pride in one’s work, one’s part in making something really great –

        IMHO, I don’t think he sees North Korea as a prize except in helping North Korea to be unshackled from China and this in turn will have a positive effect for the entire region, beyond having to worry about nuclear attacks.

        I think China has been using North Korea like Siberia – who knows who else may be imprisoned in North Korea – perhaps house church Christians from China, maybe surviving protestors from Tiannenman?

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    • Cetera says:

      Yes, this, exactly.


    • Charlotte says:

      Q !CbboFOtcZs ID: c65afd No.1714572 📁
      Jun 12 2018 12:02:24 (EST)
      Would you believe Hussein (Obama) tried to call Kim prior to the Summit?
      He did not have his updated phone number.
      (3) NK Generals [released] closed the pathway for bad actors.

      Liked by 8 people

    • Fools Gold says:

      Yes, but did anyone not capture Kim’s face when he couldn’t help but look inside the limo of the most powerful man on earth? As Trump put it to us, “we’ll see what happens”…

      Liked by 3 people

  5. sDee says:

    “if at any moment he sees Chairman Kim accepting the rescue of President Trump, Xi will likely move to eliminate Kim and defend his interests quickly.”

    That’s likely what we saw flash across Kim’s face.

    Liked by 3 people

    • IamAnAmerican says:

      When our POTUS showed Beast to Kim, I think he must have promised him that he will get a limo or a diff version of Beast without any SS security features plus the Blackwater security guys.

      Liked by 2 people

  6. Paul B. says:

    Kim’s insecurity in that video cannot be denied. The question when there is no democratic structure in place, is who controls the military. Because that is what the coercive power devolves to. If China can pull strings with the top brass, then Kim is caught in a massive squeeze play, and has every right to feel insecure. It’s ironic how, when you achieve your position by unrighteous means, the higher you go the LESS secure you become.

    Kim has a massive balancing act to perform now. I would say that his best bet is to go all-in and take cover under the patronage of the U.S. But even that won’t help him once civil reforms start to take place in NK. Once the people are unleashed, Kim’s crimes against humanity start to come out into the open, and his reign is over. It’s hard to see a way forward for Kim, although he might be able to drag things out for a decade or two.

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  7. Child of Morning says:

    I was a bit skeptical of Sundance’ earlier speculation of how tightly Beijing held the reins on Pyonyang and Kim. The latest posting, a bit “riingy” , is nonetheless seductive.

    Its not maximum pressure, its a rescue mission. Nuke inspectors will enter NK – several thousand of them – fully armed – with Bradleys – posted within a few miles of the China border? The mission: to wrest from Beijing the prison colony of North Korea for the West.

    OK, pretty thin.

    Butt if it turns out to be true or even nearly true, and PT pulls it off….I’ll dye my hair yellow.

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  8. Pam says:

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  9. zooamerica says:

    I Love Mike Pompeo!

    Liked by 6 people

  10. pixie says:

    Little Kim looks terrified, absolutely terrified. Like a fish out of water.

    Liked by 3 people

    • fleporeblog says:

      Kim Jong-un is a Big Kid that never wanted any of this!

      Liked by 3 people

      • fleporeblog says:

        Our President is protecting Kim! This is his way of telling China 🇨🇳 I know everything.

        Liked by 14 people

        • fleporeblog says:

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          • Carrie2 says:

            Fle, even to the point that a democrat as well as a republican in Congress actually had to laud Trump accomplishing what other previous presidents did not. Our President treated Kim as a man, a leader, and someone who wants to be respected and run a great country. Yet, Kim knows if he does not move to do what needs to be done, then all Hell will break loose. I do appreciate that Trump allowed no reporters except Korean reporters but the fake news people just keep talking like they knew what was discussed, etc. They will never grow up and be real America’s 4th Estate.

            Liked by 3 people

        • vfm#7634 says:

          There may be something to this. Kim’s father had been asking for direct talks with the U.S. president for years, but Bush and Obama kept nixing the idea.

          Liked by 6 people

  11. Kevin H says:

    And what if the CIA has been Kim Jong Un’s handlers?

    Qanon has been dropping some pretty amazing information. Unique photos impossible to reconstruct telling a tale of a military intelligence operation plying NK away from our own deep state.

    Whatever drama you see unfolding publicly is a movie, providing necessary optics for NK to finally be freed of its chains.

    Liked by 14 people

  12. CopperTop says:

    All the ‘aghast legitimization mongers’ who think the propaganda from Kim state media is meaningful to Trump are not paying attention.

    Liked by 4 people

  13. KBR says:

    China also seems to be interested in helping Iran to avoid the consequences of sanctions, as Iran said they might be able to utilize another currency to continue trading.


  14. zooamerica says:

    President Trump was like a father to Kim Jong-un.

    Liked by 13 people

  15. G. Combs says:

    I find Kim’s sister, Kim Yo Jong, ‘interesting’ I wonder if she is his ‘minder’ from China.

    An old tradition was to take a child from the lord of a vassal state as hostage and raise him as a page in your castle. Perhaps Kim’s sister was raised in China and that is where her loyalty lies.

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  16. Sharpshorts says:

    While we are speculating on China’s control over Kim’s NK, I think it would be interesting to discuss whether there could possibly be an actual rift between the power brokers within China itself ie: do alternating and separate Panda/Dragon forces actually exist and are they currently fighting each other for control?
    Perhaps there is no longer a unified China totalitarian regime using two masks…Perhaps there is a widening internal divide between the China Pandas vs. the China Dragons.

    I’m probably way off on this speculation but it could possibly explain a lot of the “why did China allow XYZ to happen” questions.

    [Complicated business, folks…complicated business]

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    • Aparition42 says:

      I don’t care how unified an organization looks from the outside, no sizeable entity is without it’s internal rifts and power struggles. The more absolute the rule, and the smaller the ration of leaders to led is, the more intense these internal struggles will be. When the difference between revered party member and glorified vassal can be a single promotion, there’s a lot of temptation to watch the guy ahead of you trip down the stairs.

      No matter how carefully communists craft their system, they always die because there is a deadly poison to it inherent to the human condition. Jealousy. The PRC thought they could invite in a few sucker capitalists, steal their tech, and boot them out while maintaining total control, but no communist system can survive existing in close proximity to capitalist success. The prols see the lavish lifestyles of the capitalists and rather than becoming outraged at the “unfairness inherent to the system”, they grow jealous and want some for themselves. The human spirits of ambition and competition are innate. They cannot be suppressed forever without constant direct oppression. China is far to large and diverse to effectively suppress the burgeoning desires of the Chinese citizens to improve their own lives AND maintain the economic and financial ties to western businesses they need to carry out their expansionist plans.

      So personally I believe that yes, there are growing rifts, but I don’t think they’re yet clear cut between “panda” and “dragon” as SD calls them, but the more the, let’s call them “leaning panda” operators deal with successful capitalists, the more they will grow to resent the “leaning dragon” operators that must police their own agents for signs of becoming infected by capitalist thought. If all remains perfectly peaceful (long shot), this could develop into a sort of two-party system, but I think the dragons are still too powerful and numerous for the pandas to feel comfortable sticking their necks out so far as to actually challenge for control. More likely, they are simply vying for more opportunities to act as double-double agents enjoying the lavish lifestyles then can get while pretending to only be pretending to enjoy them rather than risk being sent to reeducation for getting a little too cozy with the enemy.

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  17. EbonyRaptor says:

    If NoKo has been and still is controlled by China, then everything NoKo has done has either been on China’s orders or with their approval – including development of nuclear weapons. The fact that China already has the nuclear weapons capabilities means if they wanted NoKo to have nukes they could have just given them some. This whole threat of NoKo gaining nukes has been kabuki theater. China has used the fake threat as a wild card to further their geopolitical aspirations. KJU is a mere pawn in the game between China and the U.S. Ultimately this brings in a few more issues than only the disposition of NoKo. There is also Taiwan and the South China Sea that will probably play a role in the battle between China and the U.S. And the linchpin in it all is the trade issue.

    A very complicated business.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I hope Trump is having some fun dealing with these world issues.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Dutchman says:

      Does give China a chance to advance THEIR nuke, rocket and satelite technology, and testing, under the guise that its nork.

      And, keeping the fall out in nork, at least till ‘accident’.

      Did we ‘help’ Kim, by collapsing that mountain? Was he complicit?

      Yes, complicated business,…

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      • Aparition42 says:

        Any one of a dozen phenomenal movie plots could be crafted from the possibilities here. I really hope I live long enough to see the truth declassified.

        I know a lot of people harbor not necessarily undeserved ill will towards Kim Jong Un, but in the spirit of unfettered optimism, I’m hoping for the heroic tale of a puppet/figurehead acting as a double agent against his own handlers for the sake of his people.

        The brainwashing of the North Korean people under Kim Il Sung was so completely enshrined in his cult of personality, and so thoroughly cemented by Kim Jong Il, that the military party leaders of the DPRK had no choice but to select a Kim as the prominent visible leader of their country. Generation of conditioning the people to believe that the Kims were perfect, infallible, nearly divine men, they couldn’t possibly say that their child and grandchild weren’t deserving because that would imply the previous Kims had failed as fathers.

        So the party was stuck. Only a Kim can lead North Korea, so they chose what they hoped would be the most pliant and controllable child of Kim Jong Il. At first he was frightened and played his part. Even going so far as to gain weight and cut his hair in order to look more like his revered grandfather, but at the age of 28, faced with the reality of his miserable existence as a prisoner in his own castle, young Kim is desperate for a way out, a way to escape to the outside world, to the land of endless parties, video games, music, (not to mention clean running water and sit-down toilets), and most of all, his beloved basketball. His one escapist solace during his youth abroad.

        But as he grows older he begins to realize his own power over his people. He sees that the puppet masters need him more than they originally let on. He begins to assert himself, but he’s still surrounded by the threat of assassination and involuntary “martyrdom”, so he reaches out to the one person just weird and contrarian enough to accept an invitation from the evil ruler of the dark kingdom, Dennis Rodman.

        At first it’s just about shooting some hoops and hearing stories from one of his childhood heroes, but on the court Kim confides in Rodman that all is not what it seems. Rodman tries to bring Kim’s story to the outside world, but no one will listen. Well, ALMOST no one. One day the Rod Man returns to North Korea and tells Kim of a great man with the power to help. A brazenly lavish real estate tycoon with a plan so brilliant no one else in the entire world could ever even think of it, and a plan is hatched for the puppet king to cut his own strings, but watch his puppet masters fall.

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        • jrapdx says:

          That’s a great story, really good material for a movie, novel, etc. It makes intuitive sense, but we just don’t know if it aligns with the facts, or perhaps how well it aligns with the facts.
          We should keep a good thought that the tale turns out to be accurate.

          However the odds are high that the real story is more complicated and a lot less clear cut. But I can see plenty of room for all kinds of intrigue at the edges of the action. Now give it a cast of hundreds, it begins to resemble what real life is like.


    • SpanglishKC says:

      Hmm… Why was DPRK in such a rush to dismantle some of their nukes already… Xi hiding something???


  18. covfefe999 says:

    It’s my theory that KJU has been a slave of sorts to the military leaders who worked for his father and continued on after the father’s death. And KJU was too afraid to stop them because they could have easily killed him. China wouldn’t have offered much protection, and South Korea couldn’t. But we can. Is KJU coming to DC? Maybe he’s defecting. Maybe he just wants to lead a normal life instead of being everyone’s pawn.

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  19. Dutchman says:

    So, DR knew, 5 years ago, that Kim was hostage,…and, long acquaintance with DJT. WHEN did dr tell DJT? During campaign? Before?
    Would be interesting to know DR’s trips to visit Kim, who handlers probably got used to seeing, maybe complacent.

    Maybe DR should get the medal, from Clandestine Services. The one they give to civilians. Coarse, nobody would know,…

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  20. Just a thought says:

    IMHO America has to re-evaluate all of its alliances. You want a “pivot to Asia”, this is a pivot to Asia. I think China is also re-evaluating and is not necessarily going to become a great adversary. There is still business to be done and money to be made for China.

    I hope that part of the new Trump doctrine will be that allies have to earn their friendship with the U.S. I am from a 5-eyes country. I have seen the anti-American propaganda first hand for 50 years. The lack of gratitude really galls me. We take on board gladly: every new invention; every new SJW idea; every new piece of pop-culture palp that you make; we take it all.

    Then our media make us complain about you.

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  21. Carrie2 says:

    All Asians have a different way of thinking from the rest of us. Difficult to read their minds or desires. In some ways Kim was dropped into this position after brainwashing by father and grandfather, who were super cruel stupids. What he has done is what he was taught and perhaps now he can see how he can be the leader and a decent one in spite of China. Trump obviously in their closed door talks gave Kim ways and means to make his country great and a part of the world and not a killing/starving country. Kim is still young and getting good and direct information from a much revered and older leader may make him think and rethink what he and his country could be on their own and not owned or pushed. In other words, he may want to learn to be wanted and seen in the world but also seeing his country rising above rapes, murders, dislikes, hatefulness, and slowly but surely awakening to a real future that is of benefit to NK as well as to the rest of the world when he is accepted. According what we have been hearing from Trump, complete removal of nuclear concerns/missiles and using the land and the people realistically could be the game changer for NK. Trump has said if no cooperation and oversight from us, then back to Square l!

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  22. Mike says:

    Interesting perspective Sundance, and other treepers.

    Either way, one thing I know now is President Trump is a LOT SMARTER than a lot of people gave/give him credit for, including me.

    God bless and guide you President Trump!

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  23. alligatriot says:

    Very interesting theories, Sundance! The last couple of days have left me feeling giddy. The anticipation, the concern, the hope, watching the whole thing unfold, the possibilities for the future …
    And now, we must face the dreaded monster: Reality.

    Trying to keep pace with world events is a challenge. Just attempting to keep up with our Boss who moves at Trump-speed is nigh unto impossible. Therefore, I had to force myself to slow down and digest what your are suggesting here.

    All things are possible.

    Two thoughts kept creeping into the rusty cogs of my brain and refused to be resolved into the various narratives I tried to conjure.

    1. Kim Jong-un has been on a trajectory for at least a dozen years (if not his entire life) to be the ruler of North Korea. From his personal experience, advice from those around him and directions from China, he governs as those before him have done. His motivation is likely high. (Do or die?)

    2. China plans far into the future. They consider all known variables. Is it likely they had considered the dissolution of their proxy state at some distant point in the past? My personal opinion is, I don’t think so. Who could have predicted a Trump?? Perhaps they are scrambling a bit trying to figure out how to handle this little wrinkle in the Plan.

    My giddiness is still affecting my logic so I like the idea of parent-Trump “rescuing” child-Kim and his entire “family” of North Koreans from the clutches of the evil Red Dragon.

    For now, sleep, perchance to dream.
    In the morning, lots of strong coffee and eagerness to devour the Treehouse News Of The Day!

    Interesting times, these.

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  24. trumpsbamagirl says:

    Dennis Rodman said that Kim gave him a message to take to Obama. Rodman said that Obama “wouldn’t give him the time of day.”

    What if…. Kim sent an SOS through Rodman to Obama…. and when Obama ignored him, Rodman told Trump?

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  25. Dutchman says:

    Jat; YES, reevaluate ALL our alliances, and our relationships with them: trade, defence, geopolitics, everything.

    Interesting Putin is saying he wants a sit down with DJT.

    Probably first words “Well played, with China!” As posted above, China and Russia compete as much as they co-operate. I’m sure one alpha dog (Putin) recognises another alpha dog (DJT).

    USUALLY, 2 alphas DON’T fight, too much mutual respect. “Your one, I’m one, and we’re surrounded by all these betas!

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  26. Pam says:

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  27. JAS says:

    The China/North Korea relationship is complicated. It goes back to the Chinese civil war when Mao took power. The North Koreans which were already communists and under the Soviet umbrella right after WWII (exactly like Berlin the Korean peninsula was split down the middle) helped Mao win the civil war with supplies and manpower.

    By that time both China and North Korea were having a falling out of sorts with The Soviet Union.

    When the U.S./ Korean war came to be the Chinese responded in kind…

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    • JAS says:

      “With the end of the war with Japan, the Chinese Civil War resumed in earnest between the Communists and Nationalists. While the Communists were struggling for supremacy in Manchuria, they were supported by the North Korean government with matériel and manpower.[88] According to Chinese sources, the North Koreans donated 2,000 railway cars worth of supplies while thousands of Koreans served in the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) during the war.[89] North Korea also provided the Chinese Communists in Manchuria with a safe refuge for non-combatants and communications with the rest of China.[88]

      The North Korean contributions to the Chinese Communist victory were not forgotten after the creation of the People’s Republic of China in 1949. As a token of gratitude, between 50,000 and 70,000 Korean veterans that served in the PLA were sent back along with their weapons, and they later played a significant role in the initial invasion of South Korea.[88] China promised to support the North Koreans in the event of a war against South Korea.[9”

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    • WSB says:

      Thank you for the consolidated history lesson. A bit complicated, but I see no white hats here.


  28. zooamerica says:

    Another Huge Win.

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  29. Peoria Jones says:

    This is quite mind-blowing. I sometimes wonder if we should be discussing such things amongst ourselves openly – but if there is truth this theory, China already knows the jig is up. That’s the scary part.

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  30. Larry Carlisle says:

    Hopefully KJU will not take an extended vacation…

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  31. AmericaFirst says:

    I think this goes right along with what SD is positing here:
    China’s navy is on track to be double the size of the United States’ by 2030, which puts U.S. interests at risk in the Asia Pacific and around the world, a U.S. military expert testified at a recent congressional hearing.

    “The future size of the [People’s Liberation Army] Navy will be about 550 warships and submarines by 2030. That is twice the size of today’s U.S. Navy,” said Retired U.S. Navy Capt. James Fanell at a House Intelligence Committee hearing on Thursday.

    “As such, it’s clear the U.S. Navy is at great risk. We simply are not adequately sized or outfitted to meet our national security commitments in the Indo-Asia Pacific, let alone around the globe,” said Fanell, former director of intelligence and information operations for the U.S. Navy’s Pacific Fleet.


  32. trapper says:

    I agree that Nork has never been anything other than a puppet with China’s hand up its backside operating it. And the charade worked for decades. But China is now faced with a US president who isn’t having it anymore, a president who told the puppet that if it threatened the US again he would incinerate it, and (wink) by the way, the hand inside along with it. So now what? If we incinerate Nork there will be millions of Nork refugees pouring across the border to China. Yikes!

    When China, which is now a developed country, takes a hard look at Nork it sees what it has created: a wasteland of ignorant, starving, disease- and parasite-ridden people whom China views as racially inferior in a puppet country that has suddenly outlived its usefulness. China could pull a Britain and admit a bunch of third worlders as Chinese citizens, but they saw how THAT turned out for the Brits. Again, millions of Norks pouring across the border to China. Double Yikes!

    The only other alternative is to just walk away, let them starve to death, a Korean Holodomor. That’s probably China’s preference, given the Chicom history of eliminating unwanted populations tens of millions at a time. But the world is watching now. They could never get away with it now.

    So. Brilliant. Some unnamed Very Stable Genius approaches Xi with a deal that DOES let them walk away. For free. And it’s this: China lets the West develop North Korea, at the West’s expense, in the process the West takes care of the humanitarian problem China created, again at the West’s expense, and China gets to just walk away. The Chinese don’t like the Koreans anyway. For China it’s “good riddance,” problem solved. China’s starving red-headed bastard is successfully placed for adoption. And everyone involved, literally EVERYONE involved, walks away a hero.

    Buy the way, look at that picture of Kim and Xi. They hate each other. And the video with Trump, with the sound off Kim looks terrified.

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    • WSB says:

      I just saw a tape on Fox with PT asking the photographers to make everyone look great and thin…the camera pans to Kim, and he looks like he is about to throw up.

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    • zorrorides says:

      Yes Trapper, the Chinese racial revulsion toward the Koreans (always have been a separate people) does make China’s position more difficult.

      Oh man oh man! I think Trump is going to flip NoKo, out of China’s hand into the west! And Trump is going to do it fast!


  33. WSB says:

    OMG! Sorry to be half off topic but James Woolsey was just on with Laura Ingraham.

    Speaking about President Trump, Jim admits that his wife’s prognostication was that Trump (1) would win and (2) act as President he is…and Jim just gave her the accolades!!!!!!

    Hilarious, and accurate!!!!!

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  34. Apfelcobbler says:

    Fascinating implications!

    In a related development, last nite Tucker said something to the effect that the elites who were recently happy to pile onto the progressives’ “RussiaRussiaRussia” chorus were also busy making money from China. He didn’t get into it, but he obviously was implying these were deep pockets players who’ve been doing the “internationalist” dance for decades, and are only too happy to have Russia in the public’s beebonnet, rather than China.
    (Meanwhile China is busily buying up power companies on every continent.) Trump’s bold move yesterday was a vital and necessary long term countermove forward for the US. It moves us OUT of the sinking trade trap. He is taking the bull by the horns while Congress is still trying to lock in some remaining benefits from the old arrangements.

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  35. Nightstand says:

    Trump is indeed our modern day Cyrus. The hand of the Almighty is on him. Let all of us be thankful.

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  36. repsort says:

    complicated business, folks…. 🙂

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  37. SSI01 says:

    If NORK loosens its orbit around its Chinese Communist sun, it means the Chinese will have lost control of one of their thumbs they’ve tried to periodically put in America’s eye. That’s going to happen in particular if subsequent developments result in the possibility of Kim making a lot of money from graft flowing from industrial and tourist spending in North Korea, with open borders and a revitalized economy driven by market forces rather than state planning. A dose of Vietnamese communism/capitalism mix would do his country very well – and line his pockets nicely. Losing Kim as a front to set against the Americans means the Chinese will increasingly have to perform those functions themselves. Which, in turn, may lead to more unmasking of who’s doing what behind those enigmatic smiles they show the world so frequently.

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  38. talker2u says:

    “China actually controls every element of the North Korean government that surrounds Chairman Kim Jong-un”

    I’ve been going with this forever. How could it be otherwise?

    What does Xi need Kim for now? Does he get offed by one of his generals? Does Xi remove him in a China-backed coup? Does Kim DEFECT?!


  39. rayvandune says:

    Kim may want something very personal from Trump. A trip to America, and major medical care, with an American surgeon holding the knife, instead of a Chinese!

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  40. Phil aka Felipe says:

    Here’s something I’ve been thinking about China and how Trump is strategically positioning ‘things’ to contain them.

    Reference Sundance’s previous piece,

    ‘White House Created Production Video to Assist Singapore Summit Talks With North Korea….’. featuring this video:

    Now consider this. Trump has developed close personal ties to Asian powers like Shinzo Abe of Japan. President Moon of South Korea, and now possibly Kim Jung Un of North Korea. Add to these the 1 billion plus people of India represented by Prime Minister Modi of India.

    Just this past weekend, Trump publicly stated at the G7 conference that Putin’s Russia should be added to their ‘Club’.

    During Putin and Trump’s upcoming meeting, I can envision Trump playing a similar video for Putin as shown to KJU.

    They share some popcorn and coke together as they are watching the video.

    Trump talks about what a fantastic future of peace and prosperity for Putin and his people too if he will join together to form an unbeatable alliance to keep the Chinese Dragon in check with the U.S., Russia, South Korea, Japan, India, and possibly North Korea all coordinating together economically, diplomatically and militarily to keep the peace in that part of the world.

    In effect, China would be completely surrounded.

    They assuredly recognize this and will do what is necessary to prevent it.

    However, President Trump may be able to do it and then say “Checkmate” whenever Xi displays the Red Dragon.

    Yeah, I know it’s laughable. But, how many other things has Trump done already that hasn’t been done before?

    After all, he DOES have a ‘Magic Wand’, right Hussein?

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    • Charlotte says:


      Would you believe Hussein tried to call Kim prior to the Summit?
      He did not have his updated phone number.
      (3) NK Generals [released] closed the pathway for bad actors.


  41. TheWanderingStar says:

    After reading Sundance’s article and as many comments as possible, I’m left with the idea that China has firm control of NK – entrenched might be a better term – in every way possible.

    Clearly NK is behind the times, heavily in debt and in desperate need of infrastructure, manufacturing and the ability to harness their own resources. If I’m China I would be looking at the willingness of the West and their allies to take on the task of “Making NK Great”.

    Building and investing in NK without China taking any risk, yet still in firm control of Beijing. So the West rejuvenates NK and bears the expense but China retains control of the country and reaps the benefits of a modernized NK without putting out a lot of capital.

    Longer term and in parallel, one might foresee that SK (Seoul, what a prize!) would be targeted for similar control (and may already be targeted) and that once NK is nearing modernization an influx of NK influence bolstered by all Korean peoples desire to reunite might provide the impetus for a unified Korean province of China.

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    • Oren V says:

      China needs the USA. They don’t need NK. They like owning NK, but they don’t need it. Aggressively going after NK exposes their intentions. China could have helped NK, but China is only in it for China. Everyone sees this, and nobody likes it. Nobody trusts China.

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    • jrapdx says:

      Thing is, if other countries invest in NK, NO WAY will China be allowed to continue to control NK. Trump isn’t going to all this trouble and expense just so China has a better puppet. The object has to be to wrest NK from China’s clutches else it’s merely a fool’s errand.

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  42. Greg says:

    I have the feeling that Kim really wanted to ask for political asylum and fly home with DJT.

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  43. A2 says:

    On 18 May, Kim3 led the first enlarged 7th WPK Central Military commission to support the 3rd Plenum of the 7th WPK Central Committee. Read the link for what was discussed.

    The 7th WPK Central Committee meeting was when the reorganization of some top personnel took place as we have seen the 3 big replacements. Before this meeting Kim3 directed all party personnel to study ‘confederation’ (North/South) AND in particular, China’s one country, two system’s formula, the one Deng Xiaoping used to guide the takeover of HK and Macau with Taiwan as the ultimate goal. Kim3 did his own ‘southern tour’ in China following Deng’s footsteps to look at the first SEZ Shenzhen on the border with HK. A small fishing village turned into a massive modern city in a very short time.

    China (and its puppet Russia) have clearly stated its objectives for NK to pursue with the US and SK. The Russian FM Lavrov has just recently stated that the US is following their blueprint. “Freeze for Freeze” denuclearisation, Sanctions lifted (UN and US) and US military withdrawal (most important goal) from SK. Neville Chamberlain Moon of the liberal left along with their juche anti-American left was a willing tool to push for unification.What ‘unification’ means as well as ‘denuclearisation” are different things depending on what side you are looking from. To be blunt, North takes all the dosh (and eventually political control) and the south pays and loses its freedom.

    Kim3, is the tool to get this done. After all, when 90% of your income comes from China and that spigot gets turned down to a trickle because of sanctions, something must be done. China (and Russia) signed on to UN sanctions because, well, China has all its dragon claws in many a foreign pot. They also knew all the ratlines and maneuvers to evade sanctions as long as Kim3 plays his role. Just one example is that Kim leased out North Korean waters to Chinese fishing companies, getting FX for NK and China getting its seafood “legitimately” (not imports which were sanctioned),

    So this is the China plan and they are already positioning themselves to rush in and help NK modernize if or when sanctions are lifted. De-nuking was never the issue just the cover. Getting the US out of the peninsula the geopolitical goal (both China and Russia have publicly state so).

    The plan also neuters willing fool Moon’s reunification at any cost. That may change. The President announcing that the US may suspend military exercises and eventually remove US troops has awakened the sleeping conservatives who are pro-American and fear a communist NK. They are now furiously defending their position as they now realize that a permanent Moonie liberal left government may not be a foregone conclusion. Moon’s sky high approval ratings may take a hit, and it seems young people are very skeptical of NK and its motives (or as budding taxpayers having their hard earned cash going north when they cannot afford to buy a flat).

    I am suggesting these fluid dynamics because all players need to be watched as the US gets its swagger back. I reckon six months is just about right.

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    • China (and its puppet Russia) ….Sorry A2, you have no clue what you are talking about. Russia may play the game with China, but they are no puppet to China, in fact, I can say for certain that Russia is waiting for a partner to help secure itself from a future Chinese attempted takeover of Russian natural resources in the Siberian region….Russia is very concerned about China and would love nothing more than them taking a big hit from the US and other regional players. China is Russia’s biggest threats, if not, the biggest threat it faces.

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      • A2 says:

        Sorry 1footballguru, if the shoe fits as they say. I have posted several times on the relationship in particular the Siberian situation (Siberian officials are furious at Putin ignoring their complaints about Chinese farmers and investments). I guess you missed the State visit and the interviews Putin made after receiving the first ever Friendship Medal, or the nuclear deals made and sales of military hardware. Or their record of falling in behind China’s policies from the recent SCO, BRI, A11B, BRICS or recent national security, cyber and other agreements.

        I agree China may be Russia’s biggest threat if there is no pushback, but not over the past few years has that been apparent. Putin needs China (and Yuan) and China needs Putin, on regional strategy. As Chairman Xi said recently, “China and Russia stand shoulder to shoulder and back to back”.

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        • MVW says:

          Neither of these two countries is monolithic. Deals and strategies shift with the sand dunes. I can safely say that, but can’t even begin to know how it all shakes out, so will let you guys argue it out.

          Once the 2018 midterms is over and Sessions’ DOJ is cleaned out, maybe we will be able to see how Trump deals with Russia (for those that think Sessions is doing no damage, it has effected Trump’s foreign policy for +2 years).

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        • You said Russia is China’s puppet, that is a false statement. I said Russia is playing the game, that is a true statement. Such a good game they have Xi saying they stand shoulder to shoulder, back to back. Don’t think for a second that Russia would not stab Xi in the back at the first chance they get. Who knows, maybe the N. Korean situation is the perfect time, hence Trumps extended hand before the G7 and Summit meetings with Kim. Russian textbooks are full of teachings about how bad China is for the Russian government and people. Yes I know all about the 1 million plus Chinese who have slowly worked their way into the Siberian region and the locals who are upset at Putin for not doing more to stop it.

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    • L. E. Joiner says:

      Very interesting discussion. Especially A2’s reference to Kim3 and ‘confederation’. I think unification of N and S Korea is definitely in the cards, and the questions of economic model and alliance are very important. A Chinese citizen told me that China really likes having a ‘buffer’ (his term) between them and the American allies. An officially ‘non-aligned’ or ‘neutral’ Korea might fill that bill, while still participating in the robust economy of the Pacific Rim. President Trump’s offer to stop joint US/SK military games is a step in that direction.

      I didn’t know about the Chinese in Siberia. /LEJ


      • A2 says:

        The problem has been ongoing for years.

        “In the past, whenever the central Russian authorities wanted to unite the residents of Siberia and the Russian Far East around Moscow, all they had to do was begin to talk about the threat from China, whose massive population was just waiting to overwhelm the region and would do so except for the power of the Russian state”.

        But now, according to numerous reports, residents of the Trans-Baikal region and other parts of Russia east of the Urals no longer accept that argument. Instead, they believe that the penetration of their lands by the Chinese is the result of the close cooperation between officials and businessmen in Moscow and their Chinese counterparts.”

        “The Russian residents around Lake Baikal are especially angry that Moscow is restricting where they can live and what economic activities they can engage in but is allowing Chinese workers and businessmen to live where they are prevented from living and work in businesses Russians are now being excluded from.”

        Irkutsk activist Grigory Krasovsky says that it is clear to people in his region that Moscow and China are working together, promoting the influx of Chinese and Chinese business for the benefit of people at the center and completely ignoring the concerns and objections of the residents of the Trans-Baikal.

        “Putin’s policy of ‘a friendly attitude toward China’ is absolutely unacceptable and harmful for the entire population of Siberia,” the Irkutsk resident says. “People are horrified by this policy. Since 1999,” he says, he has “been involved in the struggle against the theft of land” and its natural resources by illegal loggers and especially Chinese companies.

        To the extent that others share his attitude, that Moscow is implicated in the Chinese expansion in the region, the Russian government will have a hard time using the threat of Chinese expansion to generate support for itself. Indeed, its use of this ideological meme is likely to have just the opposite effect and play into regionalist objections to the center.”

        Therefore it is some Russians, not just my speculation that Putin is seen as a puppet of China.

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        • L. E. Joiner says:

          That ‘some Russians’ directly affected by Chinese activity in remote areas see Putin that way does not mean that others do, nor that he is in fact a puppet. He may just be indifferent to what those Siberian locals see as a problem, given distractions like Ukraine, Syria, etc.

          FWIW, I don’t have a sense that Putin will want to get involved in US-NK-China developments, either. Russia has pretty much ceded the Korea question to the Chinese at this point. /LEJ


          • A2 says:

            OK. That’s your opinion. Yet if you change that opinion or logic and insert POTUS, ‘indifferent’ to the concerns of his citizens, because he has distractions, what does that say to you?


  44. dbethd says:

    “Imagine the internal stress upon the young Kim Jong-un who has been forced to ride this dragon for almost a decade, and knows his government is not actually his government but rather a governing body with all officials reporting to Beijing.”

    And he can’t trust anyone around him, and his one true friend, with no ties to China, is in the form of Dennis Rodman.


  45. Ellie says:

    My 16 year old son was cracking up last night while we were watching the above video live. He noticed how KJU couldn’t sit straight was leaning off to one side, almost like he was in pain. In true 16 year old boy logic he suspected that KJU had a week full of “stomach issues” from the anxiety he felt about this meeting. Since my son corrupted my mind, all I can see when I watch the video without volume is that KJU looks like he’s in a world of butt hurt and thinking “oh please, someone get my hemorrhoid cream!”


  46. 6079 Smith W says:

    China’s red mandarins are too smart capitalists to not realize that globalism as a world-system has failed. Their removal of missiles from South China Sea shortly before Trump-Kim summit likely signals their tacit approval and acquiescence to Trump Doctrine.

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  47. Theo West says:

    When it comes to North Korea, I’m probably the least informed person in the room. I was born after the Korean War, so North Korea has always been there as this dark terrible place of awful suffering, led by an awful dictator, and now the awful dictator’s awful son. And threatening to bomb us. That’s all I knew.

    Until the summit. And what I saw a really surprised me. First of all, in Kim, I saw not this terrible bloody dictator, but a surprisingly young and vulnerable looking man, almost a boy. Looking at Trump with an expression bordering almost on hero worship. I actually had to blink several times to make sure that’s what I was seeing. And in Trump, I saw a taller, older man, looking down on Kim with benevolence and love, in a way I can only describe as fatherly.

    And I realized – and Trump is, after all, an excellent father – that he is taking Kim under his wing in order to teach him how to be a good man, and a great leader, of a soon-to-be be free nation. I saw in Trump, and in Kim’s expression, the father that Kim always yearned for, but never had in his own father, and Kim eating it up with fear, trepidation, yearning, and great excitement. Call me crazy, but that’s what I saw, to my great surprise. Time will tell if it is true. But I cannot get it out of my head, er, heart. Truly remarkable and unprecedented if true. And fascinating.

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  48. fred5678 says:

    People need air, water, food, and energy — in that order. USA has an abundance of everything and can be self-sufficient. China and its huge population, on the other hand …

    POTUS Trump is using our secure geographical/natural resources position advantage and huge technical, (rebuilding) industrial, (rebuilding) military, and (growing) economic advantage to best effect in all his moves — with Kim vs. China, against Trudeau and EU, etc.

    We are watching a major epoch in history. Take notes for your grandchildren. You can tell them you voted for him, supported him, and even prayed for him — and The Republic.

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  49. Ackman420 says:

    If SD is right about this, and I think he is, there will be a huge amount of vulnerability to criticism from the international community. If it’s revealed that China is behind the prison camps and belligerent positioning which led to sanctions and starvation, there is a massive loss of face for China and Xi. PDJT will no doubt leverage this extraordinarily. More winning for the world.

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    • giveadamn says:

      Xi versus Trump–who’s ulterior plan wins? U.S. Presidents are limited to 8 years, while Xi just became leader for life. No wonder Trump wants things to progress quickly…


  50. carla says:

    Trump keeps mentioning Otto. We recently began bringing some of our citizens home from China who are showing the same neurological symptoms that our citizens in Cuba suffered. Otto also was tortured in the same way. (I bet Kim has already admitted to Trump that China did it) China is goosing Trump and he’s telling them that he’s coming and he’s bringing help with him.

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