Senate Investigators Suspect FBI Documents Were Manipulated By Deputy Director Andrew McCabe…

Journalist Paul Sperry dropped a bombshell tweet yesterday highlighting issues that have been longstanding within a senate investigation:

This is a BIG deal, obviously. However, it is actually an even bigger deal when put into context with prior inquiry by Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley about FBI manipulating FD-302’s, notes taken by FBI agents during interviews.

The current issue seems to align with Senator Chuck Grassley suspecting Andrew McCabe manipulated the FD-302 investigative notes from FBI Special Agent’s Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka, after they interviewed Mike Flynn. There is enough sketchy and contradictory information giving weight to a likelihood that Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe told FBI agents (Strzok and Pientka) to shape their FBI reports of the interview (FD-302’s) to assist a “Flynn lied” narrative.

On May 11th, 2018, Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley dropped a sunlight grenade into the prosecution of Michael Flynn with a jaw-dropping request letter. [Pdf Here]

Within the letter Chairman Grassley outlines a prior briefing from fired FBI Director James Comey to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and contrasts the false presentations of Comey -regarding Michael Flynn- against recently known evidence.

Within the May 11 letter Senator Grassley requested: ♦the transcription of the phone call(s) intercepted by the FBI between Flynn and Russian Ambassador Kislyak; ♦the FD 302’s written by the FBI in their interview with Michael Flynn; and ♦testimony from Special Agent Joe Pientka, the second FBI agent who was partnered with Peter Strzok for the Flynn interview.

The name of the second FBI agent, Joe Pientka, was previously unknown, and it’s likely Chairman Grassley outed the name for a very specific reason. This was a BIG shot across the bow.

“In addition, please make Special Agent Joe Pientka available for a transcribed interview with Committee staff no later than one week following the production of the requested documents”…

Adding to evidence Deputy FBI Director McCabe told FBI agents (Strzok and Pientka) to shape their FBI reports of the interview (FD-302’s) to assist a “Flynn lied” narrative researcher Nick Falco pointed out text messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok:

January 23, 2017, the day before the Flynn interview, Lisa Page says: “I can feel my heart beating harder, I’m so stressed about all the ways THIS has the potential to go fully off the rails.” Weird!

♦Strzok replies: “I know. I just talked with John, we’re getting together as soon as I get in to finish that write up for Andy (MCCABE) this morning.” Strzok agrees with Page about being stressed that “THIS” could go off the rails… (Strzok’s meeting w Flynn the next day)

♦Why would Page & Strzok be stressed about “THIS” potentially going off the rails if everything was by the book?

BECAUSE IT WASN’T!

It was a conspiracy to entrap Gen Mike Flynn. All Strzok needed was an excuse to speak w Flynn. Everything in the 302 was likely fabricated.

February 14th, 2017, there is another note about the FBI reports filed from the interview.

Peter Strzok asks Lisa Page if FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is OK with his report: “Also, is Andy good with F-302?”

Lisa Page replies: “Launch on F 302”.

And we know from their discussions of manipulating FBI reports a year earlier, inside the Hillary Clinton investigation, that Peter Strzok has withheld information, and manipulated information, through use of the 302 reports [LINK]:

On Wednesday June 6th, 2018, Senator Chuck Grassley sent another letter. This time he’s ANGRY about the initial response from the DOJ and FBI [pdf link]:

[…]  “disclosing facts to the Committee could not possibly “interfere” with the case at this late date, assuming those facts are consistent with the representations that prosecutors arranged for Lt. General Flynn to swear to in federal court.”

“If the facts are inconsistent with the plea agreement, that would be an entirely different kettle of fish.” ~ Senator Grassley

There’s the implication.

If the “facts” of the Flynn case don’t match up with the details presented to the court (via “plea agreement”), it’s likely the underlying case evidence is fraudulent. ie. the FD-302’s were falsified.

However, Senator Grassley is not just relying on his research and investigative discoveries about the Flynn case. The Chairman also has prior knowledge of potentially falsified FBI statements to his oversight committee via. the Christopher Steele testimony.

At the beginning of the year Senator Grassley identified likely received false information from the FBI.  He gave a critically important speech about it in January:

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[…] “in the course of our review, Senator Graham and I came across some information that just does not add up. We saw Mr. Steele swearing one thing in a public libel suit against him in London.”

“Then we saw contradictory things in [FBI] documents that I am not going to talk about in an open setting. And from everything we’ve learned so far, we believe these discrepancies are significant.”

“The Special Counsel should be free to complete his work, and to follow the facts wherever they lead. However, that doesn’t mean I can ignore what look like false statements.”…

Then comes the key point:

“we start by assuming that government documents are true until we see evidence to the contrary. If those documents are not true, and there are serious discrepancies … then we have another problem—an arguably more serious one.”

What Senator Grassley is outlining in this speech is the conflicting statements by Chris Steele (under oath), and the information the FBI used to assemble the FISA application using the Steele Dossier. The FBI said they had no idea Steele was shopping his dossier to the media. Hence they felt confident using it in the FISA application.

However, Christopher Steele essentially said: “BULLSHIT”, the FBI (Peter Strzok) knew I was shopping the dossier to media, knew it was unverified raw intelligence, and should never have relied on it.

Under oath (in UK court), Chris Steele made statements so contradictory to the FBI – the interpretation could only be: the FBI lied to the FISA Court, and also lied to Senate Judiciary during oversight review.

In an effort to call the FBI’s bluff and discover the truth Grassley told the FBI if their FD-302 documented version of discussion with Steele was truthful, then PROSECUTE STEELE FOR LYING to the FBI [LINK]:

As the New York Times pointed out in January “Mr. Grassley’s decision to recommend criminal charges appeared likely to be based on reports of Mr. Steele’s meetings with the F.B.I., which were provided to the committee by the Justice Department in recent weeks.”

The “reports of Mr. Steele’s meetings with the F.B.I.” are the FD-302’s the FBI gave Chairman Grassley to back up their version of events.

The FBI is attributing claims to the meetings with Christopher Steele that do not match known evidence about the Steele Dossier and use therein; and do not match the statements by Mr. Steele given under oath.

Senator Grassley suspected, and likely knew, the motive to lie about the Steele Dossier *does not* belong to Christopher Steele. The motive to lie is within the corrupt FBI who were manipulating the validity of the Dossier to gain a FISA warrant.

And almost a year later the DOJ never filed charges against Steele for lying to the FBI because he didn’t. The FBI, through false documents, lied to the FISA Court (dossier) and also lied to Chuck Grassley (falsified FD-302’s).

Knowing the Comey/McCabe FBI has a history of falsifying FD-302 reports to achieve politically motivated investigative purposes, Senator Grassley is now going to highlight how the FBI falsified the Mike Flynn FD-302’s.

This is epic.

There are now three provable citations/examples showing evidence that James Comey’s FBI investigative units falsified FD-302 documents.

♦The first example is Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe and James Comey falsifying/manipulating Clinton investigation email 302’s submitted to congress.

♦The second example is the FBI falsifying/manipulating FD-302’s about contacts and interviews with Christopher Steele. [To create a FISC application and gain the FISA Title-1 surveillance warrant against U.S. person Carter Page]

♦The third example is now the FBI falsifying/manipulating FD-302’s surrounding the interview with Michael Flynn. Those falsified 302 FBI interview notes were then used by Deputy Attorney Sally Yates and head of the DOJ-NSD Mary McCord to inform White House Legal Counsel Don McGahn and frame Michael Flynn.

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528 Responses to Senate Investigators Suspect FBI Documents Were Manipulated By Deputy Director Andrew McCabe…

  1. Avi says:

    and Rosenkapo and his master Müller will redact it.

    Liked by 6 people

    • phoenixRising says:

      No, the altered 302s have been destroyed… which is why the FBI can’t turn them over to Congress.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Perot Conservative says:

        No backup copies? Backup server?

        Same for Awan laptop and server.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Roberto says:

          Actually, they preserved evidence with a cloth and hammer. And abandoning it in apartment you’re moving out of.

          These people are such implacable idiots.

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      • dallasdan says:

        I hope you are mistaken.

        However, PLENTY of time has passed to enable elimination/destruction of evidence that is damning. Even with the presumption that much of it was in an electronic format at some point(s) and presumably captured by the NSA or stored on a server somewhere, It may be a bridge too far to recover it given the power of the deep state operatives.

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        • Bill says:

          The FBI Agents Pientka and Peter Strzok are still alive…….and the agents testified that they did not think Gen. Flynn was lying….
          More critically, the F302 data is in the FISC application..

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          • American says:

            Yes, and the thing about government backup systems designed for confidential material of a secret and top secret nature is that they are redundant. Meaning, there are multiple copies both onsite and offsite kept.

            Understand that data is part of the FBI Investigative Data Warehouse (IDW) system, not some Congressional honeypot for cocktail slurping Democrat politicians looking for a handout run by DNC insourced Pakistani Muslim spies.

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          • ladypenquin says:

            Yes, but the F302 data in the FISC application would be the falsified reports? Grassley et al are wanting to see the originals. Of course, getting direct testimony from the agents would be helpful – if they don’t lie under oath.

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      • bessie2003 says:

        Are 302’s submitted to a Court in order to get warrants? Wouldn’t the court then have a copy?

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      • littleanniesfannie says:

        “No, the altered 302s have been destroyed… which is why the FBI can’t turn them over to Congress.”

        If there is no evidence then there is no plea. Case dismissed.

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      • brh82 says:

        This depth of corruption finally hurts my heart, for all the people who have been harmed by so many ill-willed people who have made tons of money over many years….who knows how many besides Flynn, Gertz, Manafort, and POTUS? And McCabe has the audacity to ask for Immunity! If his pension isn’t entirely stripped and his life ended in prison, it will be a supreme miscarriage of justice.

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    • So when does Mueller step down? And when does Pence make amends with Flynn?

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  2. anthohmy says:

    Where is the “investigative questionnaire”?

    Liked by 4 people

  3. Archie says:

    Why did Flynn plead if things were fabricated? Flynn would have access to the FBI docs as part of discovery I would think.

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    • formerdem says:

      To save his son. I guess, just the way you only need to meet in the same room with Peter Strzok to find yourself accused of treason, so likewise, you only need any fake-o proceeding to be underway against you for Mueller to entitle himself to threatening your family.

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      • dallasdan says:

        I agree that is the most likely explanation for Flynn’s taking the rap. The situation is a testament to the ruthlessness and brutality of the resistance in general and Mueller in particular. Some very harsh justice is required to help mitigate the terrible harm done to Gen. Flynn and his family.

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      • Donna in Oregon says:

        Yes, they use Swamp tactics. Which is why the Swamp is being drained one lying scum at a time. drip…..drip……drip.

        Lesson in patience day # 506.

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    • Paul Gerst says:

      The new judge in the Flynn case ordered Meuller to give Flynn all exculpatory evidence…as best I can tell from the news…crickets. To the extent Meuller and the FBI fabricated evidence, they would not give that to Flynn.

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    • EggsX1 says:

      Its very risky to refute a FD-302 in court. Targets will incur multiple felonies when fighting their veracity because it become a he said/he said and it is two against one.

      If you are ever interviewed by an FBI agent – demand that it be recorded.

      https://grandjurytarget.com/2017/05/18/what-is-an-fbi-302-the-problematic-nature-of-fbi-agents-interview-memos/

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      • cthulhu says:

        FD-302s should be regarded as used toilet paper unless backed-up by full audio and video recording with chain-of-custody…..and, with CGI, that might not be enough.

        Liked by 16 people

        • Dutchman says:

          This case, and being so public, may be the end of 302’s; every defendant is now going to challenge their conviction, based on this. It changes the whole dynamic.

          The rationale given (that it would be impractical to video and save all interviewss, is spurious.

          Notice the IG recorded their interviews.
          Most local police depts. record interviews of suspects.

          And of coarse NSA records,..evrrything.

          The abuse of justice, using 302’s instead of recordings, goes along with many abusive prosecutorial methods, on display by mueller and his team.

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          • Trumpeter says:

            Sadly, the FBI has a long history of making up evidence. In the ’70’s it was blood type extrapolated from hair follicles, then it was a dna lab so unprofessionaly run that cases were overturned.
            And the testimony always helped convict, never exonerated be a defendant.
            Let’s hope this time is different.

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          • Not to mention that prosecutions that were based on 302’s will now have a justifiable cause to appeal their conviction.

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          • Trent Telenko says:

            >>This case, and being so public, may be the end of 302’s; every defendant is now going to challenge their conviction, based on this. It changes the whole dynamic.

            ^^^^^^^^
            lllllllllllllllll

            Absolutely this.

            This is why the wife of the Gay Bar shooter in Florida got off because the jury did not believe the Feds failed to do a video deposition.

            This collapse of Federal law enforcement credibility with the public because of FBI abuses is a huge change in the nature of our Republic that none of the Deep State has a clue about.

            And Pres. Trump is on it like white on rice.

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      • Marygrace Powers says:

        Exactly/ “demand that it be recorded.”

        Intercept article I remembered spells it out/
        Custodial vs. Noncustodial Interrogations.

        HOW THE INTERROGATION OF REALITY WINNER REVEALS THE DECEPTIVE TACTICS OF “EXCEEDINGLY FRIENDLY” FBI AGENTS/

        Peter Maass
        December 28 2017, 5:29 a.m.

        “The interrogations of Winner and Papadopoulos were what the FBI likes to call “noncustodial,” so they were not read their Miranda rights — because, the FBI claims, they were not arrested or detained at the time of the interrogation. (Winner’s lawyers have argued in court filings that she was effectively detained and should have been Mirandized.) By avoiding the obligation to inform suspects of their right to a lawyer and the right to stay silent, the FBI makes it easier to get Americans to say things — whether truths or lies — that will be used against them. The Fifth Amendment protects people from testifying against themselves, of course, and the Sixth Amendment provides the right to legal counsel, but law enforcement authorities get around these constitutional protections by contending that some interrogations are noncustodial. The result is that suspects are enticed into talking before they realize the jeopardy they face and the rights they possess.”

        https://theintercept.com/2017/12/28/how-the-interrogation-of-reality-winner-reveals-the-deceptive-tactics-of-exceedingly-friendly-fbi-agents/

        Five important words to remember if the FBI just
        wants to “talk to you” – I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.

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        • Sylvia Avery says:

          The OLD Sylvia Avery Meets FBI Version of Events:

          “Mrs. Avery, I’m Special Agent Spook with the FBI and this is Special Agent Stork. Ma’am, your neighbor has been arrested in connection with a recent bank robbery and we would like to ask you a few questions about him.”

          “Why of course! Won’t you gentleman please come in! Have a seat, just move that shovel to one side. May I get you a cup of coffee?”

          *****

          The NEW Sylvia Avery Meets FBI Version of Events:

          “Mrs. Avery, I’m Special Agent Spook with the FBI and this is Special Agent Stork. Ma’am, your neighbor has been arrested in connection with a recent bank robber and we would like to ask you…”

          “Lawyer.” Front door slams shut, deadbolt turns. Picks up phone to call lawyer.

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          • Donna in Oregon says:

            Amen Sista! Every grandchild should be trained to use their 5th Amendment right.

            If you want them to be good citizens and witnesses for justice, make sure they understand their right to remain silent and the right to have an attorney present.

            Not the parent. An attorney. If they are witnesses let the lawyer work out their testimony including whether or not the family needs to have protections. Some Cartels will just shoot up your whole neighborhood. Watch the news, that is what they do.

            ALL of these high-level, high-ranking DOJ/FBI people were promoted. They’re all high ranked. That right there says it all. Always protect the family. By now, General Flynn understands exactly why he needed to lawyer up.

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          • AKM says:

            You mean a cup of covfefe

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          • Piggy says:

            ☝💯

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        • Mary grace- excellent, thanks for posting.

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      • Better yet, just repeat the phrase “I do not recall” over and over. I heard that works pretty damn well.

        Wait, there was something else with that information I was told.

        Hmm… dang it.

        Oh yeah! Never mind, you may need to be a krooked klinton or close associate for that to work.

        Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr… Liquid N7 levels of cold anger are sweeping over me.

        Always ready for that there Midnight Ride…

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        • wheatietoo says:

          Cold Anger giving you ‘brain freeze’, THC?

          Tis a hazard that I have experienced as well, when thinking about this mess for too long.

          I recommend watching some puppy videos for a while.
          That will warm up your noggin.

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        • Deplorable_Infidel says:

          “just repeat the phrase “I do not recall” over and over.”

          I heard it enough during the Whitewater hearings chaired by Sen. Alfonse D’Amato (R-NY). At the time I thought to myself, “With memories like that, how did these people ever earn a college degree?”.

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      • owtolunch says:

        The FBI 302″s referenced in the flight 800 investigation and refuted by several hundred witnesses is indicative of this same issue… Also, it has been reported that many persons who were never interviewed by the FBI had 302s written on their supposed testimony regarding the crash of flight 800…. I think that this is nothing new to the FBI ad has been a practice for many, many years.

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      • scott467 says:

        Better yet, just don’t EVER do an interview with the FIB.

        If you KNOW the FIB is institutionally DISHONEST, why would you ever meet with them and give them the opportunity to do what they do best, which is to use their expertise and power to mislead and lie to the American Public (and potential juries) by falsifying interview reports and manufacturing evidence?

        Why would anyone EVER talk to such people?

        If there is a better example of when to exercise your Fifth Amendment right, what would that be?

        Not because you will incriminate YOURSELF, but because it doesn’t MATTER what you say, the FIB will just make stuff up to incriminate you. And the fact that you participated automatically creates a “he said / she said” with two corrupt FIB agents against one American citizen.

        They can’t play that game if you don’t participate.

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      • JoAnn Leichliter says:

        Never, never talk to FBI or any LEO without your attorney present.

        Liked by 6 people

      • FBI investigated DOJ prosecuted cases taken to jury trials have conviction rates 20 pct lower than every other agency which brings cases to the DOJ for prosecution. 54% vs 74% AND the FBI jury trial conviction rates are dropping like a rock… they are down 15% in the last 2 years and will fall precipitously until there are MAJOR level FBI and DOJ officials and HIGHER UPS including COMEY and BRENNAN jailed.
        There are 60-70 year old women who are saying thy have no faith in the FBI… they are the jury pools of fly over country.

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        • Terrible thing is they could have gone hatchet job crazy and restored public rust but not have cured the problem … this seems like it was planned to entrap all of the idiots with the players having committed so many overt acts that there is going to be no possible way to claim plausible deniability.

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        • Trent Telenko says:

          >>FBI investigated DOJ prosecuted cases taken to jury trials have conviction rates 20 pct lower than every other agency which brings cases to the DOJ for prosecution. 54% vs 74% AND the FBI jury trial conviction rates are dropping like a rock

          Source?

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    • Amy2 says:

      Threats and the cost of defending himself perhaps! The judge in his case has told the Mueller to provide all exculpatory evidence (still waiting..?). I’m sure falsified 302’s would fall under that, but the FBI of course doesn’t want us to know they’re falsified, so no need to provide them!!

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    • Uncle Max says:

      A: They were squeezing him and his son, and running them out of money. B: Flynn knew the score, was a willing target and allowed the conspiracy to take actual actions to entrap him.

      They actually took actions… all the way to just short of a sentencing hearing before the judge was recused and all the oh shits started.
      My guess is B. The only way to make something like this stick is to remove all doubt that the conspiracy to frame someone wasn’t just a plan… they actually went pretty far with it. I hope he was in on it all, b/c that means the Trump folks were 2 steps ahead, the whole time. Talk about a sting…. for the ages. To go along with the most dangerous coup attempt we’ve ever had.

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    • WonkoTheSane says:

      I think it was Wictor posited that Flynn’s guilty plea was a 3D chess move. He left the administration, but left some of the best spooks in the world in place to help ferret out the rats.

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    • Mueller made Flynn sign an agreement in his plea deal to not seek anything by discovery didn’t he? I believe that is what I read and then the judge Contreras gets recused and judge Sullivan gets appointed. Flynn never went to trial so discovery wasn’t made.

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      Because since the interview wasn’t recorded it’s his word against the FBI’s 302’s which are compiled AFTER the interview, often days afterwards. (Or composed). That is the big BIG problem with those things, if the interviewer is a Black Hat you’re screwed. ALL interview should be recorded, and if the recordings go away, no case. Period.

      Plus perhaps Flynn was given access to a fabricated set of docs. If the conspirators have already committed crimes, what’s one more.

      Lastly, Herr Mueller is already known to have withheld exculpatory evidence before. perhaps ‘for reasons of national security’. He might have played that card too.

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    • sterling1776 says:

      I think Sundance wrote something about this. IIRC, Flynn was left with two horrible choices and between incriminating himself or visually, the administration, he chose himself.

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    • Ellie says:

      This is why his sentencing hearing was delayed & the judge was recused (did not recuse himself). It’s my understanding that the former judge on Flynn’s case (Sullivan) was good friends with Strzok, who was trying to set up dinner parties so the judge could talk to FBI agents (under the guise of a coincidental personal party) about the FISA warrant.

      Apparently Mueller has a history of withholding exculpatory evidence from the accused.

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    • Karl Kastner says:

      I think Flynn pleaded intentionally to lock all the co-conspirators down. Neither of them can claim an honest mistake respectively after taking his case all the way through to conviction. Mueller sensed the trap(maybe when Contreras was removed/recused?) and deferred Flynn’s sentencing to avoid stepping in it himself.

      They aren’t the only ones who know how to conspire. And apparently not the best either.

      Flynn’s plea was scripted w Sessions and/or Horowitz 8 months ago I’ll wager.

      Statement by Lt. General Michael T. Flynn (Ret.) 12-01-2017

      After over 33 years of military service to our country, including nearly five years in combat away from my family, and then my decision to continue to serve the United States, it has been extraordinarily painful to endure these many months of false accusations of “treason” and other outrageous acts. Such false accusations are contrary to everything I have ever done and stood for. But I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel’s Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions.

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      • Esperanza says:

        Interesting. Never said he did it, just said he did in court. Then says he was working for his country. After recalling his service. Where he must have done many brave and difficult things. If I were there the conspirators, that would have scared the pants off me.

        Interesting they put in patsies so they could use them as a tunnel in, never thinking that a tunnel IN can also be used as a BACK to them.

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      • CharterOakie says:

        I remember reading that. Thanks for reposting it, KK.

        I agree that Flynn’s intent is as you describe; it’s the most plausible explanation given everything else that has come to light.

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        • Karl Kastner says:

          Q also alluded to Flynn taking a non-fatal “rubber bullet”. That supported the theory further, depending on much credence you assign to Q. I’m no expert, but I’ve seen much of his foreshadowing come to pass.

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    • MSO says:

      Extortion; it’s very plain and simple. Our prosecutors use the unlimited power and resources of the government against those it sees as its targets. Prosecutors are encouraged to overcharge their targets and threaten them with severe penalties unless they plead to a lessor charge.

      In Flynn’s case, Mueller ran Flynn out of money (lawyer fees) and then threatened to do the same to his son. Understand that Mueller is going to get Trump and Flynn and his family are seen as collateral damage and Mueller will destroy them in his attempt to get Trump.

      Mueller, and prosecutors in general, believes these actions to be honorable and necessary in the pursuit of justice.

      Plea bargains are a real problem; somewhere near 90% of all criminal cases are resolved through plea bargains; our justice system couldn’t function in our overly law infested legal system if every prosecutor had to take every charge to a jury trial for resolution. Without the necessity of a trial, prosecutors just extort guilty pleas and rack the scores for their successful prosecutions. It’s become not only second nature, but the standard operating procedure.

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      • they are not going to get trump… If you think he doesn’t know exactly what is happening and what EVERYONE has done you are severely underestimating DJT.
        They are just playing the moves on the chessboard… pawns rooks knights bishops… they all have their places and all have their days.

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    • oncefiredbrass says:

      Not to mention MuleHead was Bankrupting him!

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    • Flynn chose the least worst option available to him at the time.

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    • Really Preposterous says:

      Remember also that Flyn was strongly disliked by the Obama admin peeps and was viewed as highly insubordinate when he was fired from team Obama. It would be a very short and risk-free step to presume that he would have been high on the target list of a hubris and felony-stuffed group like the resistors.

      Taking him down would have been seen as making sure that he didn’t get to speak his heresy in public after he had been rejected by Team O and the two-fer of damaging Trump would have made him a top of list priority.

      The attack on him was gratuitous… almost a canary in the coal mine. It also was diagnostic of every single lever that had to pull… compromised NSA intercepts, CIA/DNI corruption, FBI ‘contractors’ (e.g. Fusion GPS) combing through intercepts and seeking unmasking for politically useful tidbits, the Special Action squad at the Hoover building going the final mile with the investigations and indictments.

      Perfect if nobody ever caught on. But Hillary didn’t win. People have caught on. Hillary had in essence an amnesty offer from Trump to walk away from the email crimes after the election… I wonder if that is still in place after all she has set up and pushed forward? She can now go from elder statesperson to dishwasher in orange jumpsuit for trying too hard and being a vindictive, power-crazed sociopathic, narcissist. Gotta love closure.

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    • beach lover says:

      One reason the trial has been postponed.. they don’t want to turn over the evidence. I bet they never planned to get Flynn prosecuted just to make a public statement to try to prove collusion in any way conceivable. Plus they had it out for Flynn from his past dealings with O.

      I think many are starting to see the Mueller MO now. He is ruthless when getting those he has under his thumb to admit to lesser charges. Im sure they told him this would be his only out, or the hell and fury of the US Government would rain down on him and his family if he didn’t go along. They are doing the same thing to Manafort. The big difference is Manafort has money, and probably better attorneys advising him.. and the advantage of watching what happened to others.

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      • littleanniesfannie says:

        “Sadly, the FBI has a long history of making up evidence. In the ’70’s it was blood type extrapolated from hair follicles, then it was a dna lab so unprofessionaly run that cases were overturned.
        And the testimony always helped convict, never exonerated be a defendant.
        Let’s hope this time is different.”

        This reminds me of the Duke LAX case. Same kind of hubris. Sadly, Nifong got off with a weekend in his own jail. Hopefully that will no happen here but who knows. What Nifong did was a symptom of what is going on here.

        “Extortion; it’s very plain and simple. Our prosecutors use the unlimited power and resources of the government against those it sees as its targets. Prosecutors are encouraged to overcharge their targets and threaten them with severe penalties unless they plead to a lessor charge.”

        Part of the problem here is that Mueller has unlimited resources. Rosenstein put no limits on anything—scope of authority, balance on the investigative team, financing, time, etc. So, in effect, Flynn and his family were paying for their own prosecution. Poetic justice would be for Flynn to sue for illegal prosecution and the court award damages to be paid from the bank accounts of the Sham Counsel and his assistants.

        “Remember also that Flyn was strongly disliked by the Obama admin peeps and was viewed as highly insubordinate when he was fired from team Obama. It would be a very short and risk-free step to presume that he would have been high on the target list of a hubris and felony-stuffed group like the resistors.

        Taking him down would have been seen as making sure that he didn’t get to speak his heresy in public after he had been rejected by Team O and the two-fer of damaging Trump would have made him a top of list priority.”

        Now we get to the crux of the deal. Obama likes to talk about how vindictive PDJT is whenever something negative is said or written. Once again a total deflection from what HE is doing himself!! Obama has always been ultra sensitive to questions about any policy or statement. His precious ego (likely egged on by his oft-inspired, never proud wife) would not allow him to turn the other cheek, rather it kicked him into Godfather mode. The far, far lefties would do anything to support their liberal leanings (the Tower of Pisa is perfectly vertical compared to these diversity, inclusion, Robin Hood types)!!!

        Bottom line—lock em all up. Gitmo is fine. Pad HilLIARy’s cell so her many falls will not result in (further) damage to her brain. Use the CF money and the money for the ObamA library (shrine) to provide reparations for those wronged by the evils of the 44 admin!

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    • brh82 says:

      Flynn ran out of money to fight. His house was gone and everything of value!

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  4. bocephusrex says:

    How are these THINGS sleeping at night? No SERIOUSLY?

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  5. formerdem says:

    Thank you, Sundance, and it shows your long-ago guess was right.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      This whole run out the clock witch hunt needs to stop.
      Mueller and his friends are wasting millions of taxdollars on NOTHING!
      Looks like an audit may be in order. Muller needs to go to jail.
      http://thehill.com/homenews/house/387163-freedom-caucus-chairman-wants-financial-audit-of-mueller-investigation

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      • Paul Gerst says:

        I think we are past “jail” as the solution. The Rubicon has been crossed.

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        • Newt Love says:

          Robert Caesar Mueller must die (politically). He needs to be in a rocking chair on a porch somewhere.

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          • Cetera says:

            No, there are too many that must be executed for treason. It may result in a war, true.

            However, failure to execute these traitors will collapse the United States. It is a guaranteed certainty. No federal agency of any kind will ever be trusted for anything, at any time, for any reason, by such a large portion of the populace that might-makes-right tribalism will be all that is left.

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          • Deplorable_Infidel says:

            “He needs to be in a rocking chair on a porch somewhere.”

            I would rather have him in a wheelchair, like Tio Salamanca in the “Breaking Bad” TV series (episode “Face Off”, S4E13)

            Having failed to blow up Gus Fring’s car, Walt has to come up with a new plan. Unable to find Saul Goodman, he turns to a surprising source to help him out. Jesse meanwhile is taken in for questioning by the police who want to know how and why he told doctors that Brock was poisoned with ricin. Still under DEA protection in his home, Hank learns that former Cartel member Hector Salamanca is at the DEA office but will only speak to Hank. When Hank goes to the office, Salamanca has little of use to say.

            https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1683088/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_i10

            Jesse is brought to the FBI for questioning on his knowledge of ricin. In a last effort to kill Gus, Walt must ask for help from an old enemy.

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      • dallasdan says:

        Mueller will be the one who decides when he stops. He has the Congress, resistance movement, and the DOJ protecting him. He is biding his time to publish an absurdly false and damning report that implicates the President in all manners of obstruction of justice.

        I expect it will happen during the series of IG reports to be released so he may provide the foundation for Dem talking points during the midterm elections and impeachment should the Dems win the House. The chaos created by his fiction will be epic and dangerously injurious to the country.

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        • oncefiredbrass says:

          Public Opinion will stop him and its already starting to nose dive against him

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        • At the point in time the IG determines the entire team is full of HUGE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST including the pack mule the jig will be up… the next SC will, of course, pursue the actual Russian colluders… the HRC campaign and the DNC.

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        • beach lover says:

          I don’t know. Im starting to see cracks in the connection from the FBI to the SC appointment. If the IG can damage the reason for the Mueller investigation, by showing how they PLANNED the impetus for the FISA warrants.. HOW can they continue? Especially when the scope has not been released to Congress for it? They (RR) knows its only a matter of time.. and boy are they trying to run out the clock.

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  6. RWS says:

    Is the penalty for treason hanging? Don’t think Home Depot has enough rope to give restitution for the citizens of this country.

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  7. Andy says:

    The reason why Rosenstein and Wray are so uncooperative with Congress is not because they are trying to protect bureaucratic crooks; they will eventually weed those folks out. They are worried that if the DOJ/FBI are so thoroughly destroyed in public and gain a reputation as corrupt bureaucracies, that thousand upon thousand of guilty verdicts on some really bad people will be contested. That’s what’s at stake; thats what Hitlery, Comey, McCabe, Lynch and so many more have brought us. The job will get done, but it will take time and it will be done in the shadows.

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    • J_wizzles says:

      I think it’s more than that. The FBI and DOJ have been afforded alevel of Independence in exchange for the acceptance of congressional oversight. They have now fully rejected that oversight. They know if they come clean, there will be hell to pay, and they will lose that independence.

      For someone like RR who has spent his entire career in the DOJ and FBI, that is unfathomable.

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    • Evelyn says:

      As exasperated as many of us understandably are, I think you’ve hit on a major point. None of us has the whole picture.

      As an aside, Mark Taylor did say that when they start to take these people down they were going to have to do it carefully so as not to take down whole parts of government. As bad as all of this is, it goes deeper and wider (worldwide) than many of us suspect. We need to ensure that the surgery doesn’t kill the patient (the republic).

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      • CountryDoc says:

        Yes, but but this stuff is so bad, but republic will need visible/tangible evidence that the current government can truly realign this nation with a trustworthy justice system. If it does not, we will never be able to be united in faith under our constitution.

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        • Esperanza says:

          The FBI is tainted beyond repair in my opinion. Plus there have been many other cases. DOJ also. AGs should not be meeting suspect’s husbands in secret. Especially to discuss grandkids.

          On the other hand, the military have upped in my estimation.

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    • repsort says:

      and they should be contested.. this is one corrupt POS LE agency. Burn it to the ground.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “corrupt bureaucracies, that thousand upon thousand of guilty verdicts on some really bad people will be contested. ”

      That is because they are corrupt. The FBI has been using NSA material unconstitutionally to find ways to get warrants from judges to seize evidence and prosecute.

      According CIA whistle blower Kevin Shipp, Robert Mueller testified under oath before congress that he could not give an estimate of how many times FBI agents did things without warrants because it was in the THOUSANDS. I don’t recall where in the video that is covered. You will not be bored waiting for it, however. I can guarantee that much.

      https://www.speakupsaveamerica.com/blog/cia-whistleblower-speaks-every-american-should-listen

      Former CIA Officer Exposes the Deep State
      ​ and Shadow Government

      When I sat down to watch this 3-part video, I expected to feel like I usually do–outraged, and full of righteous indignation. But outrage–I now understand–is what you feel before you really know how bad things are, inside our government.

      “When the power of secrecy is possessed outside of constitutional constraints,” Kevin tells us, “corruption and failure are inevitable” and “government will go bad, every time.” Watch all three parts. He’s right.

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “he could not give an estimate of how many times FBI agents did things without warrants ”

        Should be “could not give an accurate NUMBER of how many times FBI agents did things without warrants”

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        • KBR says:

          An accurate number should not be necessary.
          One time of committing such an atrocity is enough, “thousands” admitted is enough.

          Looking for “an accurate number” is a squirrel chase.

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      • cthulhu says:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction

        Get something from mass surveillance, launder it through cutouts, come back and “stumble upon” the laundered version, then use it to prosecute…..should be criminal, with maybe 20-30 years. IRL, SOP.

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      • Conservativeinny says:

        Those made a chill go down my spine. What he is saying as well as what he cannot or will it shows it is exponentially worse than I had ever considered

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      • Doppler says:

        Think of it in terms of management of scarce resources. You’ve got a hundred cases to investigate, lots of leg work required on each, and too few men to handle the load. Solution – do illegal searches thru NSA data, weed out the non cases and the weak cases, focus your investigators on those cases where you already know they’re guilty. Then take pains to hide the illegal surveillance so the evidence your investigators find is “admissible.”

        Unchecked power always gets abused.

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    • J Gottfred says:

      “They are worried that if the DOJ/FBI are so thoroughly destroyed in public and gain a reputation as corrupt bureaucracies, that thousand upon thousand of guilty verdicts on some really bad people will be contested.”

      As well they should be contested. Bring it on!

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      • cthulhu says:

        There are alternatives. If a nuclear “training accident” were to occur over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center , citizens of the United States might get an unanticipated surge of freedom.

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        • Ellie says:

          U.S. Attorney appointed by Sessions to work alongside IG Horowitz is from Utah… connecting the dots. It seems to me that this is so much bigger than any of us (except Sundance of course) could imagine.

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          • Been preaching this since he was appointed.. any illicit computer spying was PHYSICALLY DONE in HUBER’s jurisdiction from a proxy machine… And Utah has conservative juries and grand juries plus they will not likely have much sympathy for SWAMP CRITTERS.

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      • dallasdan says:

        The quote clearly implies to me that the DOJ/FBI “problem” is too big to fix, which is analogous to the claim that some businesses are too big to fail. I reject both propositions.

        Sure, the clean-up could be lengthy, messy, and expensive, but the alternative of doing little or nothing to substantively correct the wrongs is antithetical to the principles upon which our country was founded.

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        • KBR says:

          Right now, all of doj and fbi are guilty until proven innocent, at least in the eyes of the public. And it is the fault of their own leaders in the departments concerned, and the fault of CONgress “overseers” and pseudo-lawmakers.

          After arrests of the worst traitors and actors is done, maybe the US government should:

          Immediately open a new department with strict and easily verifiable Constitutional rules, with strong and quick punishments for rule breakers, and somewhat gradually but within a certain date within the next 2 years, shut this one down COMPLETELY, as redundant and outdated (all records kept and protected.)

          Why does FBI need to do what “16” other agencies also do, BTW? And each one of the “17” hires multiple “outside contractors” and “think tanks” too. Why hire “think tanks”, can they not think? How many unnecessary people have access to SECRET nat sec information? How many foreigners do? WHY is this NOT REDUNDANT, dangerous and wasteful?

          Any Congressional Intel Committee Member under prescription for psyche drugs, opiates, or alzheimer drugs should be required to step down from committee, and their constituents immediately notified. (If pain meds are Rx’d for a brief period the member must be off those meds before they can rejoin Committee, and submit to more frequent drug tests to ensure they did not get addicted.)

          It is clearly past time that CONgress crooks have oversight on their actions too. They clearly cannot be allowed to continue to oversee themselves, and the citizens are not allowed to do it. Citizens are not privy to their secret deals, their “in club” rules, their paying-lobby pals. We cannot even talk to the “leaders” if we are not intheir constituent districts. It is a FARCE. And a deliberate one.

          How many of these elected offficials are pre-screened for abilities and IQ, (can they all even write a coherent paragraph?) checked for drugs in their systems (preferably on a routine and random basis), vetted, and criminal-background checked before being allowed to run, and again before being allowed to be sworn in? How many can/have read and understood the Constitution to which they swear oaths, and have passed a test to prove it?

          And if they proclaim to have NO faith yet place their hand on a Bible to swear an oath, they should be eliminated at once, for they clearly lie on their way into office. To swear on a Koran is to swear that they WILL lie.

          Putting national security intel in the hands of known crooks and IQ- idiots, or into the hands of addicts or Alzheimer patients, is ridiculous on its face.

          I did like and note that the arrest of the Senate Intel Gang 8 Security Chief was NOT taken by FBI, but by US Marshals. I hope this is only the beginning.

          Bet FBI took note too.

          Too bad we don’t have access to sombody’s emails and texts so we can read about the FBI’s angst and anger over that move.

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    • Joe S says:

      Right!

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    • formerdem says:

      Man I hope that is the right answer. Wray looks nice and I don’t like being mad at all this large number of people. Some of them must be OK.

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    • Amy2 says:

      Wray could have been a real hero here and come in guns a blazin’. THAT would have regained the public’s faith in the F.B.I. Sadly, he is only picking up the mantle and moving forward. A sad day for the institution he seems to care for.

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    • rayvandune says:

      Our rights under the Constitution are not constrained by shadows! Out, damned spot! We have only one chance to cut off the head of this traitorous snake we have discovered among us, and it must be done, and SEEN to be done, swiftly and with righteous wrath!

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    • Sara Carter and I believe DiGenova both predicted indictments are coming soon. I believe Strzok, Comey and Lynch were named in the predictions. Please be true.

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    • trapper says:

      Exactly. Just look at the ones we have seen named in the Strzok/Page emails who participated in this instance of falsification, or who were apparently aware of it. Who are “Jim, Trisha, Dave and Mike”? Add Strzok, McCabe, and Comey. Just with these, how many cases did they each participate in over the course of their careers? When did they first go bad?

      Just one bad cop on the south side of Chicago took decades to fix all the bad cases, and they’re still paying off wrongly convicted guys. But this? This depth and breadth of wrongdoing? It’s mind boggling.

      Sort of gives an idea what the recent pardons might be about? Setting the tone? A president who will not hesitate to grant pardons or commutations where he believes it is just.

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      • beach lover says:

        I thought the same thing as I read the Strzok texts. He mentions them throughout. So, they had to be “in the know”. It will be interesting to see how the IG handles these people.

        Im sorry.. if this IG report doesn’t refer more than a couple people for charges, I am convinced it will never get to the top ones we are hoping for. Namely, Yates, Brennan, Clapper etc.

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    • I doubt that’s really it, personally. I think they are more likely worried that some of the innocents they railroaded will visit them for some well-deserved retribution.

      Yep. Meuller is one special kind of scumbag that is bound to have all kinds of vicious enemies he created all of his own doing.

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    • Newt Love says:

      > ” … They are worried that if the DOJ/FBI are so thoroughly destroyed in public and gain a reputation as corrupt bureaucracies, that thousand upon thousand of guilty verdicts on some really bad people will be contested. …”

      Too late! The FBI “Brand” is rated lower than toilet paper user to clean up projectile diarrhea. The FBI “Brand” is less popular than STDs.

      The FBI is the least trusted agency in America. They are complete Pariahs.

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      • brh82 says:

        I submit that at least half the population , all Libs, of course, do not believe the Justice Department is dirty. Most still cling to the original talking points heard on CNN, that trump will be gone as soon as Mueller gets done, and everything will back to the way it was before Trump entered the race for President. Honestly, you will get that confirmed if you start reading the Twitter and Facebook comments. They don’t ever consider “what if….”. Trump is as good as gone and it’s a DONE deal!

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    • Lulu says:

      If there are questions of legitimacy regarding incarcerated people than they should be let out. That is the consequence as a society that we will have to pay due to our failure as citizens to hold our government accountable.

      We are the checks and balance for the government and we haven’t done our job hence why DC is so powerful and the deep state exists.

      The FBI itself should be raised.

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      • KBR says:

        We are NOT ALLOWED to be “checks and balance!”

        How many general regular citizens do you know that are “allowed access” to any information with which we can “check” to see if our senator is a crook, or if our Congressman is an alcoholic or drug addict?

        And if we find proof on internet, can we go to the Hill and yank them outta their seats? Who would be arrested in such a righteous event, the Senator or the citizen?

        It is a FARCE.

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    • Angel Martin says:

      I think you might be right that RR and Wray fear releasing all the bad stuff at once will reach a critical mass and there is an institutional termination/restructuring, and not just weeding out “rotten apples”.

      Also, I keep reminding myself that there is more than one explanation for a set of facts.

      For example, when we found out that only 3 members turned up for the Priestap interview, it looked like the DC Swamp Uniparty at its worst.

      But it turned out that, for whatever reason, they were limited to only 2 majority, one minority member. Given that, it is actually the case that the Repub leadership sent their two most aggressive anti-Swamp guys to roast Priestap for 7 hours – and the picture looks totally different.

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  8. jmclever says:

    this just makes me sick to my stomach. Just when you think the depth of depravity could not get any deeper

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  9. I hope the only reason Rosenstein is denying Grassley’s requests is that there is an active investigation into falsifying 302s/FISA applications.

    But I’m not holding my breath.

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    • Newt Love says:

      > “… the only reason Rosenstein is denying Grassley’s requests is that there is an active …”

      The principal reason that D-AG Rod Rosenstain is denying Grassley’s requests, is that Rosenstain is on George Soros’ payroll, and taking beau-coups of bucks under the table, which is illegal, but that is what “off-shore” bank accounts are for, yes?

      Besides that, Rosenstain’s wife, who worked for the Clintons, and the Clinton Foundation, told little Roddy that if he wanted any nookie ever again, he would do EVERYTHING he could to frame PDJT and to exonerate HRC. He’s done the last one to a “:T.”. He’s now a whole “Camera” Hogg into helping Robber MuleEar to frame PDJT for anything and everything!

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      • I really hope that Rosenstein didn’t flip early ~ if he didn’t the he was set up for this from DAY one…

        Personally I believe that both Rosenstein and Mueller are in on the take down…
        Mueller, if not helping Trump, UNLESS his goal were to start a CIVIL WAR, why would anyone pick the team he chose unless you were isolating the guilty while an investigation were being run? Also getting some who were no longer in the government and thus not under IG control back under govt employ and thus subject to IG oversight, …

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    • Donna in Oregon says:

      That paperwork is not rocket science, should have already bagged and tagged it.

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  10. fred5678 says:

    “This is epic.” I agree. Sundance’s research and mastery of this intricate web IS epic.

    Now I want to see epic perp walks.

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  11. Morpheus says:

    One thing to point out, the Carter Page thing that everyone has been going on is quite odd.
    He wasn’t put under FISA under Oct 2016 AFTER he left the Trump Campaign.

    Going purely on FISA Intel, the Page Warrants would have nothing to do with Trump or the Campaign.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      a FISA warrant allows them to go back in time.

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    • Paul Gerst says:

      I think the Page warrant was cover for the prior FISA abuse that Rogers stopped. I think initially it was intended as a “cover” story when it was discovered during the first year of Hilary’s presidency — gave legitimacy to why Obama spied. The she lost…

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      • Doppler says:

        Good thought, Paul. Page was already their asset. They’d been caught by Rogers abusing query. They needed to be able to access all the Trump peoples’ comms to prove thei cases they thought had to be there, so send in Page, have him contact everyone in the campaign they needed to surveill and the warrant then allows surveillance back in time to all his contacts, and all theirs too. They just don’t seem to have found crimes. And Hillary lost. Then they actually thought they could get away with framing Trump.

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        • beach lover says:

          So is your theory that Page was knowingly inserted into the Trump administration for this purpose? Im still not getting how this was set up and by whom?

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      • Morpheus says:

        My understanding is that by statute FISA could only be retroactive for 72hours, but the Bush administration tinkered with it so much in the name of protecting us, it wouldn’t surprise me if they can go back 72 weeks.

        What is frustrating to me is that people like Nunes and even Trump are happy to leave these tools in place and for us to trust that they will always remain pure of heart and not abuse them like they say their political enemies have.

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        • beach lover says:

          Reminds me of what Congressman Stallwell said to Tucker the other night….. “we only spy on the bad guys”. Who gets to decide? Whomever is in power? Seems like it.

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  12. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    “However, Christopher Steele essentially said: “BULLSHIT”, the FBI (Peter Strzok) knew I was shopping the dossier to media, knew it was unverified raw intelligence, and should never have relied on it.”

    So obviously Mr. Steele is no dummy, because he refused to meet Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) secretly. He wanted it above board to the whole committee so as not to wind up being a patsy, because he knew what what going on with these elected officials breaking the law.

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  13. SharkDiver says:

    Wonder if McCabe’s wife will file for divorce once Flynn ends up owning the McCabe’s house and bank accounts?

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  14. kevlarskave says:

    It will take a logistical miracle to unravel and prosecute the Gordian knot of depravity that has gone unchecked for a very long time. So going slow makes sense in order to take down the biggest scum bags and set an example for the next generation of power-hungry, evil vermin.

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  15. wheatietoo says:

    “Knowing the Comey/McCabe FBI has a history of falsifying FD-302 reports to achieve politically motivated investigative purposes, Senator Grassley is now going to highlight how the FBI falsified the Mike Flynn FD-302’s.
    This is epic.”
    ~ Sundance
    ______

    Yes. It is.

    This also has the potential to cause widespread repercussions in other cases, too.
    Cases that have nothing to do with this.

    Once it is revealed that the FBI engaged in falsifying evidence…then defense attorneys in other cases could conceivably file for convictions to be overturned.

    This could be why this has been proceeding so slowly.
    But it has to be done.
    This has to be drug out in the open and the weasels exposed, or we don’t have Law and Order in this country.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “the potential to cause widespread repercussions in other cases, too.”

      Yes, please see my comment above, we must have been typing at the same time.

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/08/senate-investigators-suspect-fbi-documents-were-manipulated-by-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe/comment-page-1/#comment-5483704

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    • MM says:

      I’ve been called up for Jury duty and I’ve been having anxiety attacks over going because I no longer have faith in the system.
      7 years ago I sat on a grand jury and believed in the prosecutors and the evidence they would present but I now question everything…

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      • wheatietoo says:

        It is also scary these days being on a jury…especially if it’s a trial of gang members.

        You have every right to voice concerns about your safety, though.

        I think we’re at the point where jury members should be protected behind one-way glass, or something…to hide their identities from the gangsters, thugs and goons.

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      • Yep, I hear you. Read Sidney Powell’s “Licensed to Lie”. Great background for what we are witnessing now.

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      • jrapdx says:

        To my mind that’s the perfect resume for someone serving on a jury. Being skeptical is healthy and positive in that role. Attorneys on both sides are giving jurors a sales pitch, no better than the proverbial used car salesman, to be taken with liberal quantities of salt. It’s similar to MSM political propaganda, it’s our job to make up our own minds based on facts of the matter.

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “I’ve been called up for Jury duty ”

        Please check out the material at the Fully Informed Jury Association.

        http://fija.org/

        IJA works to:
        • Inform potential jurors of their traditional, legal authority to refuse to enforce unjust laws
        • Inform potential jurors that they cannot be required to check their consciences at the courthouse door
        • Inform potential jurors that they cannot be punished for their verdicts
        • Inform everyone that juror veto—jury nullification—is a peaceful way to protect human rights against corrupt politicians and government tyranny

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      • nimrodman says:

        MM said: “I’ve been called up for Jury duty and I’ve been having anxiety attacks … no longer have faith in the system … 7 years ago … believed in the prosecutors and the evidence … but I now question everything…”

        Just recite that when you’re questioned, they usually ask each juror about their fitness to serve.

        Mention you’ve been following the high-profile case of a corrupt FBI and DOJ conspiring to spy on President Trump’s campaign via the NSA database, yada yada.

        Good chance you’ll be dismissed. Unless you want to be there.

        I usually got dismissed after replying “scientist” when asked my profession.

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        • H.R. says:

          Engineer works too, nimrodman 😜

          I’m fairly severely hearing impaired. I was called for jury duty and was in the jury pool. To accommodate my hearing loss during jury selection, I was given headphones. But headphones just amplify all frequencies and not the frequencies that I need for proper hearing.

          Anyhow, the headphones I was given only picked up the defense/defendant confidential conversations. They were tied into the wrong feed! I was quickly dismissed and I’ve never been called for jury duty since then. I guess I’m permanently on my County’s “Do Not Call” list for jury duty.

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      • CirclinTheDrain says:

        Just remember 2 words: jury nullification.

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    • SteveT says:

      If the FBI is shown to have been falsifying evidence (302’s etc) as I believe to be the case, it doesn’t necessarily mean all FBI evidence is false. So far any false evidence seems to have its roots in a particular political viewpoint, so perhaps it would be incumbent on would-be criminals seeking freedom to show a political nature to their case?
      This could prevent wholesale chaos with the emptying of prisons etc.
      Just a thought.

      SteveT

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Steve T: So far the corruption only seems to involve a particular political view point – but that may very well be because that is only what is being surfaced at this time. If Mueller’s or Weissman’s past behaviors are anything to go by, it could well be the problem is more prevalent that even we know at this website.

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  16. kiskiminetas says:

    The fact of the matter is the FBI docs were manipulated Andy for political purposes. This was supposed to be part of taking Trump down. These corrupt people doing the bidding of one the most corrupt administrations’ in American history chose the worst time ever to do it. We live in an age where everything is basically under surveillance. Did they think no one would find out what they were doing because if so this whole scam reeks with overconfidence, carelessness and just plain Jacque Cousteau idiocy.

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  17. sahm2016 says:

    Is this the reason why Flynn ‘s sentencing keeps getting postponed? Is there some legal reason (caused by the falsified documents) for Mueller to keep dragging it out?

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    • trapper says:

      It would appear that at this point the Flynn case is so fouled up there is no fixing it. Any lawyer who knows about falsified documents used as the basis of it but then proceeds with it anyway would have a serious ethical problem, so I suspect he’s just avoiding having to do the inevitable and dismiss it. Never underestimate the appeal of avoidance. the days just slip by.

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    • I think it’s becoming clearer and clearer that every prosecution from the SC/Mueller is fruit from the poisoned tree. All a defense atty has to prove is the conflict of interest of the entire panel of the SC. What a waste of time and money.

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  18. MM says:

    The criminality of Comey, McCabe, Strzok and Lisa Page is beyond disgusting…..
    They need to pay dearly for their crimes….

    Liked by 6 people

  19. repsort says:

    How many Flynns are in prison right now? Hundreds? Thousands?

    Liked by 9 people

    • MM says:

      Too many………….
      Regardless of the number……

      Liked by 4 people

      • bessie2003 says:

        Interesting because President Trump mentioned he has a team looking at over 3,000 cases where pardon or commutation might be appropriate;

        and his recent twitter about innocent people who have been hurt over the past 2 years,

        then his comments today to the NFL kneelers, if they know people that have valid reasons for the President’s team to review cases to let him know,

        sounds like our VSG-PDJT sees around corners, already put a team in place, to deal with the repercussions disclosures will cause if it becomes known that the FBI gets artistic with their 302’s;

        can’t tell if he sees around corners, or really is a time traveler!

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    • I remember a case some years ago where an investigator or FBI agent was found to be corrupt and it called into question hundreds of convictions. I believe Mueller was connected either as FBI Director or prosecutor. Been a long time but I believe judge ordered a review of all related cases and convictions during the time period.

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  20. RedBallExpress says:

    “They do what they want and they make the rules as they go.”

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  21. HickTick says:

    I hope Huber indites McCabe for pay to play from Hillary on the 750K he took . . That was as blatant obvious as you will see , but they have done it in our faces for so long and laughed if anyone called them on it .

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  22. gamecock123 says:

    Wow. McCabe. Wonder how many cases he altered in the past, hundreds? thousands? All of them need to be looked into. An avalanche of sketchy case is going to smack DOJ up side their head.

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  23. Echo says:

    The list of available charges with which to prosecute McCabe is going to need an index soon.
    What’s the bet that he gets done for the J walking choices.

    I predict DoJ prosecuting its own will be a smooth seamless joke. The same people who weren’t directly involved but undoubtedly knew about Comey, McCabe et al and said nothing will be doing the prosecuting. Pleeease…..

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  24. Joe says:

    The 302 process is DESIGNED to allow the FBI to frame a suspect.

    No recording?

    You have to be kidding me.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Has to be a top 5 Reform recommendation from this fiasco.

      Tape recordings. No manipulated 302s.

      Liked by 1 person

    • EV22 says:

      ^^^^This^^^^

      There’s no excuse for the 302 but no recording. None.

      I’m sure if Flynn had been told, “Your answers are going to be recorded, Sir,” I’m sure he would have said, “I think we’ll wait for my attorney to arrive.”

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      • Trent Telenko says:

        >>There’s no excuse for the 302 but no recording. None.

        This is why the wife of the Florida Gay Bar shooting — Pulse? — was acquitted by the jury.

        The Florida jury didn’t credit the FBI 302 forms regards the wife’s statements to them without video to back them up.

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    • SteveT says:

      While I admire most of what you guys do the other side of the Atlantic, you do seem to have a fetish for fraudulent-ready processes.
      Apart from the ones discussed here I am incredulous about your voting processes. No ID needed, no backup for electronic recounts etc etc.

      SteveT

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      • brh82 says:

        Hey, no back-up for recounts, no ID is NOTHING. How about when the President got on TV to encourage illegals to vote and “You won’t be deported or charged in anyway. Just go vote!”

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      • Joe says:

        It, like the 302 process is DESIGNED for voter fraud via illegals voting. It is how the Democratic Party stole CA and will continue to steal elections. Banana Republic behavior.

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  25. Mia C says:

    Anyone have a Cliff Notes version of all this? I’m lost.

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  26. Cathy M. says:

    “Reports are now circling that not only did corrupt former FBI Head McCabe alter the 302 regarding the interview with General Flynn that later was used to get Flynn fired and indicted by the corrupt Mueller team, McCabe and his corrupt gang also destroyed the supporting documentation for the 302.”

    I hope that last part is not true.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/evidence-of-general-flynn-lying-to-investigators-was-reportedly-destroyed-by-andrew-mccabe/

    From Feb 2018
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/report-andrew-mccabe-altered-peter-strzoks-302-notes-general-flynn-interview-destroyed-evidence/

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Robert Barnes
      Robert Barnes@Barnes_Law

      “Is it a coincidence that two of the few prosecutors ever caught creating fake “composite” memorandums of interview —
      Sally Yates’ team in Atlanta & Andrew Weissmann in Enron — are the two prosecutors most intimately involved in bookmarking the case against @GenFlynn? “

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    • Trent Telenko says:

      >>McCabe and his corrupt gang also destroyed the supporting documentation for the 302.”

      The destruction of evidence by law enforcement before trial automatically voids a conviction.

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  27. SouthCentralPA says:

    Sen Grassley has been said to be loathe to subpoena FBI agents, bcs he’s so proud of the whistleblower protection legislation that he wrote. Maybe this will get him off dead center on subpoenaing FBI agents, so we can all get answers. “Is this the 302 you wrote … ?”

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  28. Perot Conservative says:

    Sara Carter reported on McCabe asking FBI agents to change 302s this January.

    Real Clear Politics

    Title: Sara Carter: IG Report & FISA Abuse Memo Shocked FBI Director Wray “To His Core”

    “SARA CARTER: Correct. 1.2 million pages. But there are indicators right now that McCabe may have asked FBI agents to actually change their 302s. Those are interviews with witnesses. So basically, every time an FBI agent interviews a witness they have to go back and file that report.”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/30/sara_carter_ig_report_fisa_abuse_memo_shocked_fbi_director_wray_to_his_core.html

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      PS Last I’ve heard it is 1.5 million. I have heard both 1.5M pages, and 1.5M documents.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Btw, Sarah Carter, to me at least, seemed to come out of nowhere. How does she cultivate sources?

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      • Sylvia Avery says:

        Actually, she has been around quite awhile. I think she did a lot of reporting in danger zones in foreign countries. I first became aware of her some years back on The Blaze before Glenn Beck lost his, ah, way. She did some nice reporting. I can’t remember who she worked for before that.

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  29. American Male says:

    Loveturds Strzok & Page:

    “First we F*** Flynn, then we F*** Trump”

    Altering someone’s 302 and forcing them to plead is “‘F***ing’ them” plain and simple, anyone/everyone involved in this scheme to frame President Donald J. Trump and his appointees must swing from a lamppost

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  30. rd says:

    Question?

    Is the FBI FD-302 documents system a computer program with revision history and revision tracking? Back in the 1930’s, there were probably carbon paper copies filed in the central files at HQ? I remember the international company my Father worked for did that in the 1960’s. (3 part Speed-o-grams?) Did they update the existing system to use computers along the way?

    I am asking because I thought I heard (on?) that the computer logs for those particular FD-302 were corrupted or otherwise not traceable back to when they should have been originated in January 2017?

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    • rd says:

      Sounds like Cathy M. at 11:59 Above has some links that answer my questions. They did something very similar in the Enron case, overseen by our pal Mr. Weissman.

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  31. AZ18 says:

    Clarification please! Joe Pientka is the agent who also was part of the Flynn interview. I understand that as is thought to believe Flynn did not lie. My question is, who is John that Storz is referring to 1/23. “I know. I’m getting together with John as soon as I finished writing this up for Andy….

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  32. MM says:

    John Carlin maybe?
    So many names to keep track of…………..

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  33. JR says:

    Reading the Manafort indictment today, it dawned on me that there is no way the FBI was not aware of his financial crimes before he joined the Trump campaign. I now believe the FBI inserted him into the campaign as a confidential human source in exchange for an eventual plea to reduced sentences or limiting asset forfeiture. Page, Halper, and Manafort all fit the CHS mold. I’ll bet Strzok was running all three. All signed on thinking they would be rewarded when Hillary was elected. Oops. Does anyone believe that a man who was laundering 30+ million dollars, had scores of offshore businesses and bank accounts, and had not worked on a campaign since Bob Dole would suddenly decide to make a career change that would put him in the national spotlight? Please.

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    • MM says:

      Tony and John Podesta were thick as thieves with Manafort in this where are the Podestas indictments?

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    • JX says:

      They were previously investigated and no charges were brought. Manafort cooperated with that investigation.

      Mueller’s charges against Manafort serve another purpose.

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    • owtolunch says:

      Manafort had been investigated years ago and was never prosecuted… Mueller just reached back into the files and revived an old closed investigation and decided to use the information to get Manafort.

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    • Of course they did, and despite their bovine scat claims of “protecting Trump etc…” they never told him a thing about Manafort, obvious reasons would have to be ignored with the infamous “willing suspension of disbelief”.

      Right, krooked killery? Right…

      Anyone wonder why our VSG PT keeps mentioning over and over just how VERY krooked killery the- oops, never mind… – is?

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    • glissmeister says:

      My thought exactly. And the campaign spit him out like a rotten seed.

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      • glissmeister says:

        Per JR above: “Does anyone believe that a man who was laundering 30+ million dollars, had scores of offshore businesses and bank accounts, and had not worked on a campaign since Bob Dole would suddenly decide to make a career change that would put him in the national spotlight? Please.”

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    • beach lover says:

      So you are thinking the “raid” on his house and family was staged?

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  34. Robert Smith says:

    Yeah, it’s a good one. As these stories develop these cumulative topic updates help keep everything straight.

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  35. History Teaches says:

    Talk about ‘fruit of the poisoned tree!’ The whole stinkin’ orchard was infected by those criminals. Everything those weasels touched was manipulated to align with their political objectives. Banana republic garbage posing as ‘conscience.’ Any means and method to preserve the putrid swamp.

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    • These rotten apples have been cultivated for 10.5 decades to do as they please, as long as it is for the globalist bankster cartel seeking one world EVERYTHING… as long as everything is totalitarian feudalism based on draconian control of literally everything.

      I don’t mean to be so vague… just sayin’.

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  36. Archie says:

    Five or more shoes are still waiting to be dropped. The CIA, NSA, State Dept, private contractors and whatever the name is for the five intelligence agencies (US, UK, NZ…). Whoops, I almost forgot the Obama Admin writ large, the Hillary campaign, and the DNC. The FBI and DOJ may result in 30 indictments alone, if the game isn’t rigged.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      This new Wolfe indictment, by itself, could snare a half dozen or more people by itself.

      Is this TDS meets the moral-less society, with a shovel full of SJW?

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      • Dr.Jay says:

        And noticed this little tidbit?
        Seems a new protocol was used and is in place, using a temp measure instead of tape: signed investigative questionnaires. The suspect has to sign the answers to each question on that form, that should prevent tampering with 302s a bit.

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        • Rhoda R says:

          Seems that simply videoing the interview with an analog clock visible in the background would be less complicated.

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  37. In the text he mentions “John”. John Brennan?

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  38. Perot Conservative says:

    Sessions set up the sting that got Wolfe, 4 media, and probably many more.

    Liked by 3 people

  39. George says:

    A couple of months ago I read an article about a FBI agent saying that people are less willing to talk to the FBI now. So of course it is harder for them “to keep us safe”.
    Cry me a river Mr. FBI man!!!

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  40. George says:

    Maybe we should thank Hillary. If it had not been for her email stupidity, then the Trump affair might have remained a CIA op. They would have had their Dyn Corp boys handle it and they might have got away with it.

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    • I agree. We should show our appreciation by getting her a nice soft cashmere wrap for her new hemp necklace so that it doesn’t irritate her delicate snakeskin neck. Plus it would show how compassionate we all are.

      Yup. Would hate that for her…

      Liked by 2 people

      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        What about Sally Yates neck? Let’s not play favorites, here. We should not discriminate – we don’t want those nasty hemp rope burns on her neck, either. Pictures of that would just inflame those little snowflakes even more in their anti-torture crusades.

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  41. GTOGUY says:

    I found it very interesting that when Comey was interviewed on TV he was asked why recordings of interviews are not made. He just said, we don’t do it that way. No real explanation as to why not. I was a Sheriff’s Sergeant for 27 years in CA and we always recorded our interviews with witnesses, victims and suspects (targets) during investigations. Especially in high profile cases. This “rule” of theirs is just ridiculous.

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  42. GTOGUY says:

    Congressman Nunez: “Mr Rosenstein, we would like the documents regarding Gen Flynn’s interview with the FBI On January 24th.

    Rod Rosenstein: “Somethin happend to ’em man.”

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    • Dutchman says:

      Uhh,…Dog ate em,….flew out window of the car,…was on freeway, couldnt stop,….um,..we can’t FIND em, lost,..

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      I’m so glad all the crooks in this story (Sztork, Page, McCabe, Yates, Lynch etc.etc.) are lawyers. They tend to be very bad at that IT ‘stuff’.

      All the original evidence is prepared on computers, transmitted and stored in several places and put into various databases. Cross-referenced and indexed. All logged with timestamps and userID. And all those actions also leaves traces at several lower levels, so not just at the generally known and visible ones. And their are audit trails against tampering, all fully automated. And these also leave additional traces.
      And backups, local, onsite and off-site. And copies made, electronic, on paper and in court filings. And there are notes, drafts, and documents with change history logs.
      And people who talk too much, then and now. And communicate via their smartphones by voice or texting and various email systems.

      Good luck on hiding that evidence guys & galls, all it takes is say a few NSA guys, helped with outside IT forensics people. To ensure white-hats best not get those from US but hire them from some boring puritan small country in, say, Europe (Swiss, Danes, Dutch, Austrians, Swedes, Finns whatever).

      So if you tamper not just with the documents but also with the audit trail we can still determine that you did so. So many ways to verify, so much what needs to align exactly. I’m pretty sure I could tell pretty quickly what was doctored and what was not. Usually we can also give you the time and who did it. And we may be able to restore the original…

      “Hey what do we find here? Seems like someone deleted some text X at time T, oh I see is was done by user ID U who did that and by the way here’s the original text….”

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      • Dr.Jay says:

        So no worries if you can’t find them or lost it. Let us help you with that.
        Could take hours, days or even weeks, but we will get back your stuff 🙂

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  43. LibertyONE says:

    Strozk & Page got ONE thing correct…..”this( “investigation”) potentially will go off the rails”. Not only has your corrupt criminal train has gone OFF THE RAILS, we now hopefully are awaiting the body count of people who will go to prison.

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  44. American Male says:

    Sundance says:

    “Within the May 11 letter Senator Grassley requested: ♦the transcription of the phone call(s) intercepted by the FBI between Flynn and Russian Ambassador Kislyak; ♦the FD 302’s written by the FBI in their interview with Michael Flynn; and ♦testimony from Special Agent Joe Pientka, the second FBI agent who was partnered with Peter Strzok for the Flynn interview.”

    Screw the transcription of the Flynn-Kislyak phone call if I was Grassley I would want my own copy of the tape, the actual conversation THEN I would compare IT to the transcription. Why? Too many times going over court transcriptions I’ve found errors and omissions even from the best transcribers and with the Comey/McCabe FBI (Feeble Biased Incompetents) I expect they’ve “F-ed” with the transcriptions to make them read they way they want them to in order to support their charges against Gen. Flynn..

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  45. Karl Kastner says:

    Man, I love it when a conspiracy plan falls apart.

    Liked by 3 people

  46. Sharon K. Hollenbeck says:

    All these players need to be punished by the full letter of the law. No plea deals or immunity.

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  47. Dutchman says:

    NOW, I understand Rosies refusal to turn over documents because to do so would reveal ‘sources and methods’;

    Yes, it would reveal Fbi/Doj regularly:
    Doctor 302’s
    Conduct electronic survellence without warrant, until after the fact.
    Conduct politically motivated investigations/
    Whitewash investigations for political
    reasons, epstien n Clintons.
    Entrap innocent
    Engage in prosecutorial misconduct on massive scale.

    And yes, revealing this information could put lives in danger: if exposed, American people could KILL us.

    So yes, Rosies not lieing!

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  48. Dutchman says:

    There is absolutely NO reason to drop one, let alone 30 indictments the day after the IG report.

    The IG report, legally has NOTHING to do with the criminal investigations, other than providing LOTS of evidence, all totalky admisable.

    If you go back and look at Watergate prosecutions, other than the burglars, i dont believe ANY of the others were charged on the same day.

    Each case is seperate, and indictment comes when prosecutors decide.

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  49. When your baseless load of histrionic bullsh!t is somehow proven to be correct you can come back and lambaste me, but for now?

    With ALL due respect, solid links to actual evidence or STFU. 😉

    One does telegraph their physical position to enemy combatants in #WAR. Geez.

    Please just delete my comment Ad Rem, with a warning if you must… rather than breaking out the ban hammer. I’ve had all I can stands of the bashing of Sessions.

    lol

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  50. Blade says:

    Derp, Derpity, Derp Derp Derp.

    I’ll tell you what though. On one hand in some derp comments you keep throwing up the strawman of 562D chess which no-one is actually arguing BTW ( and which is actually a passive-aggressive knock on Sundance who correctly used the 3-D chess graphic early in the campaign to highlight Trump’s outside-the-box thinking over the 16 dwarfs ), yet on the other hand there is no 562D chess and it all gets simply scapegoated to an incompetent Jeff Sessions holding back the genius of Team Trump from its destined glory.

    Well here is your problem. If the Flynn debacle is *not* an elaborate 562D sting, then we are left with no alternative than to blame Trump and Pence, because Jeff Sessions was still a Senator awaiting his first confirmation hearing ( intentionally so that he remained seated for votes in Congress ). Yep. Either we have a super sting, or somehow Trump got caught flatfooted and was thoroughly bamboozled by the low-IQ Team Hillary sycophants McCabe, Yates, Strzok and Lisa Page. That would mean due to Pence’s idiotic Enemedia interview and subsequent embarrassment President-Elect Trump threw him under the bus to be crucified and bankrupted by the deep state, and even stands by to this very moment as the evil, which Sessions had no part of, still unfolds.

    Sessions is protecting the Criminals through inaction.

    Sessions is protecting the government through recusal. He took the Team Trump politics right out of the picture when he stepped aside and froze out any chance for Watergate 2.0 since Trump could no longer influence the already ongoing investigations. But this leads to any even stickier problem for the anti-Sessions jihadists to ponder …

    What if Trump defied all logic and history and *did* attempt to get Sessions to unrecuse and take over the investigations ( Mueller’s questions seem to poke int his direction ). Now don’t duck this question: What should Sessions do then? Should he lie under oath and deny the President did this? What’s your answer now? It’s time to be honest since up to now all y’all have been ducking this. The reason Sessions would and did recuse is to protect the government, the President included, from a crystal clear appearance of impropriety, a text book conflict of interest. It would be a shame if despite doing so, and removing all opportunity for Trump to influence the investigations that he did so anyway, wouldn’t you agree?

    Russia Russia Russia is a hoax. All Trump had to do was ride it out without obstructing and generating an actual crime ( that is why Mueller and the deep state are so desperate, no original crimes existed, they are trying to force one ). And still we have all the Team Derp members leapfrogging each other in more and more insane anti-Sessions comments, competing for some kind of world cup of kookiness, and get this – literally trying to fulfill what Team Mueller is trying to force ( a Trump obstruction to hand to Congress ). Now I ask again, whose side are these Team Derp commenters playing for? Really?

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “The reason Sessions would and did recuse is to protect the government, the President included, from a crystal clear appearance of impropriety, a text book conflict of interest.”

      It was stated here months ago that AG Sessions has to be in place for all the dung hitting the big fan that he will not be recused from, say if about 1/3rd of the Senators and congresscritters are under indictment. How is PDJT suppose to appoint and get another AG confirmed by the Senate?


      German aviation laboratory, 1935

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      • Blade says:

        Since we are speculating with little evidence except those events we witness, I stick as close to Occam’s razor as possible. It seems to me that Sessions was face with a binary judgment call, to recuse or not recuse. With the stakes so high, and with an actual Watergate 1.0 in our recent past it seems logical to err on the side of caution and go with the ethical choice recommended by OPR. Recusal takes Team Trump out of the DoJ investigation and takes that dangerous Enemedia attack out of the headlines ( which would go on for another year ceaselessly 24/7/365 ).

        Now with Rosenstein it gets trickier since we have no real information except that Sessions fired him and Trump kept him. I can easily make the case that the Special Counsel appointment and lateral move of the already existing investigations under that one roof makes ethical sense ( and it herds most of the perps into one place ). Or maybe he is a scoundrel trying to kill the king, but in that case it means Trump was somehow duped yet again. But guess what, it actually makes no real difference which is true.

        These two actions, Sessions and Rosenstein actually takes politics and any chance for Watergate 2.0 right off the table ( as another Treeper said, it indemnifies Trump by restricting Mueller to searching for crimes that already exist, that means none since it is a hoax ). Therefore Trump had no possibility of impeachment and was never in danger since Russia Russia Russia was a hoax from the beginning as long as he didn’t commit a process crime after that date. Obstruction of Justice, tampering and coverup was completely impossible unless Trump tried really really hard to accomplish such a mistake. To do so would mean he has completely idiotic White House counsel too stupid to warn against tampering with DoJ, or, he would simply ignore them out of ego and hubris.

        Therefore, Trump’s ( and yes, our ) only exposure is for an own-goal error of epic proportions. That is what the actions of Sessions and Rosenstein effected. Everyone freaking out over the ongoing but petering-out Russia nonsense are truly insane. They are gaslighting themselves based on Trump tweets that are cat-herding laser-pointer messages meant for the public at large and especially the Enemedia. Trump is controlling the message and bloodying up the Mueller special counsel office in ways that Reagan and Bush43 completely failed to do. In fact he has so bloodied them up that it should surprise no-one if Mueller closes up shop soon after writing a muh Russia “meh” report that both clears him and also smacks him a little on the fingers at the same time ( that is, unless we have to deal with an own-goal that ironically is exactly what the handwringers here are rooting for! ).

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    • Now if Trump has everything as has been stated by the creator of NSA thin thread… he stated he taught THE WHITEHOUSE how to harvest the NSA database in FEBRUARY of 2017 For data sets back to 2004 which that had never been analyzed.
      TRUMP HAS EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE SAID OR COMMUNICATED SINCE 2004. ALL OF THEM MUELLER HILLARY O all of them. He knows pence was attempting to run him off the ticket with Paul Ryan… He has the goods on them all.

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