Sunday Talks – Explosive Interview With Devin Nunes…

Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Devin Nunes appears on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo to discuss the origin of the counterintelligence operation, that began in July 2016, against the Trump campaign.

Last week the FBI released the original “electronic communication” (EC) documents that underpinned the origin of the FBI counterintelligence operation.  The first half of this interview contains some stunning information: the raw intelligence product within the EC did not come through official intelligence channels.

Meaning, the origin of the 2016 counterintelligence operation, which was specifically started by CIA Director John Brennan sharing his ‘raw intelligence product’ with the FBI, was not an official product of the U.S. intelligence community. Brennan was NOT using official partnerships with intelligence agencies of our Five-Eyes partner nations; and he did not provide raw intelligence -as an outcome of those relationships- to the FBI.

The questions, many of which are rhetorical against the backdrop of political motives, become: if the EC is not based on official intelligence from U.S. intelligence apparatus or any of the ‘five-eyes’ partners, then what is the origin, source and purpose therein, of the unofficial raw intelligence? Who created it? And why?

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As we begin to ponder the ramifications and answers to the questions in the first half of this interview, we must remember that CIA Director John Brennan gave congressional testimony last year where he explained how he delivered the raw intelligence product itself.  We spotted this issue, and Brennan’s obfuscation therein, a year ago, when Brennan first gave his testimony.

On May 23rd, 2017, Former CIA Director John Brennan gave very specific testimony to congress where he noted he provided the raw intelligence to FBI Director Comey – FULLSTOP.

Listen carefully to the opening statement from former CIA Director John Brennan May 23rd, 2017, during his testimony to congress.  Pay very close attention to the segment at 13:35 of this video of Brennan’s testimony:

Brennan: [13:35]  “Third, through the so-called Gang-of-Eight process we kept congress apprised of these issues as we identified them.”

“Again, in consultation with the White House, I PERSONALLY briefed the full details of our understanding of Russian attempts to interfere in the election to congressional leadership; specifically: Senators Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein and Richard Burr; and to representatives Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Devin Nunes and Adam Schiff between 11th August and 6th September [2016], I provided the same briefing to each of the gang of eight members.”

“Given the highly sensitive nature of what was an active counter-intelligence case [that means the FBI], involving an ongoing Russian effort, to interfere in our presidential election, the full details of what we knew at the time were shared only with those members of congress; each of whom was accompanied by one senior staff member.”…

In the last paragraph of the testimony above, remember Brennan is describing the creation of the Clinton-Steele dossier and how it was used to generate a fraudulent October 21st, 2016 FISA Title-1 Surveillance Warrant against U.S. Person Carter Page.  In hindsight, and against the known facts from research, we can clearly identify the need for the FISA warrant.  The FBI and larger team of co-conspirators needed to have a retroactive legal basis for the political surveillance that was happening long before the warrant was issued.

That unlawful foundational FBI surveillance, which happened prior to October 2016, included the use of unauthorized FISA-702 queries of the NSA and FBI database for political opposition research by contractors.  Again, much like the unofficial origin of the raw intelligence that began the July 2016 counterintelligence op, the FISA(702) abuse was simply more ‘unofficial’ use of the intelligence apparatus.

It was the FBI (Comey) and ODNI (Clapper) generating the intel reports, including the Presidents’ Daily Briefing (PDB).

The CIA provided raw intel, to start the operation, and the FBI and DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) generated the raw monitoring intelligence from the characters identified by the CIA, FBI, DOJ-NSD and approved by FBI FISA warrant submissions.

The FBI were running the counter-intelligence operation and generating the actual reports that were eventually shared with the White House, Susan Rice and the Dept of Justice.  Those reports, or interpretations of the report content, were leaked to the media by political operatives in the IC (and specifically FBI) throughout the deployment of the “insurance policy”.

During the time James Comey’s FBI was generating the intelligence reports, Comey admitted he intentionally never informed congressional oversight: “because of the sensitivity of the matter“.

John Brennan was smartly (and intentionally) positioning himself out of the picture from the perspective of the illegal acts within the entire process.  ODNI James Clapper while rubbing his face and scratching his head had taken the same route earlier.  That would leave James Comey, Andrew McCabe and the small group within the DOJ-NSD and FBI.  The CIA and DNI wanted all fingerprints to be from DOJ and FBI.

In his May 2017 testimony, Director Brennan goes on to say the main substance of those Gang of Eight briefings (2016) was the same as the main judgements of the January 2017 classified and unclassified intelligence assessments published by the CIA, FBI, DNI and NSA (intelligence community).

That January reference was the infamous 17 agencies report, from CIA (Brennan), DNI (Clapper), FBI (Comey) and NSA (Rogers), all who had confidence -except Rogers-  according to the report, that Russia was attempting to interfere in the 2016 election. The intelligence report was finished January 4, 2017, the day before the White House meeting with Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc. and documented by Susan Rice.

Now, a critic might think that Brennan is informing congress on one thing (Russian investigation), and Comey due to his March 20th admissions (Trump investigation), is NOT INFORMING congress on another.  However, that angle is rebuked by Brennan’s own testimony that his specific intelligence product (CIA) was given to the FBI who were exclusively in charge of the “counter-intelligence investigation“.

What’s happening here in May 2017 is actually John Brennan creating his defense, and positioning James Comey as the primary person who is to blame for any outcome therein.  In May 2017, deploying the “insurance policy” was still plausible – but it was becoming less likely to succeed.  Reader Dan encapsulated what Brennan was trying to do nicely in this paragraph: [Note, this is from Brennan’s perspective as he attempts to exit liability]

[…] Brennan gave Comey the investigative product -which had nothing to do with the Trump team-  and Comey used it to carry out Obama, Hillary, and Susan Rice’s dirty work for them. Of course Brennan was in on the whole thing and is now saving his own skin by saying ” I briefed ya’ll on everything I had with regards to Russia, anything additional that arose please talk to my buddy Comey”.

CIA Director John Brennan was making James Comey own the “Counter-Intelligence ‘Muh Russia’” claims about the Trump campaign. As a consequence, Brennan was trying to make Comey the fall-guy for a Robert Mueller investigative outcome in case everything fell apart and their deployment of the “insurance policy” failed.

Brennan knows there’s no ‘there’ there.

The entire construct of the “Russian Investigation” was the political use of manufactured intelligence, used to create an investigation in order to weaken, perhaps eliminate, President-Elect Trump or President Trump.  This was their “insurance policy”.

However, there simply was no ‘there’ there because there’s no substantive evidence to support a “Trump Campaign Collusion Narrative”.  Eventually, all avenues to prove the existence of something, that doesn’t exist, hit a dead end.

Knowing this was a likely outcome, in May 2017 John Brennan realized that someone has focused attention on Comey’s March 20th admission to congress that the FBI intentionally kept congress in the dark during the construct of the counter-intel narrative.

Congress was kept in the dark during this phase because the narrative can only thrive with innuendo, rumor, gossip etc.   The appearance of the investigation itself was the political need; the substance was non-existent and immaterial to the creation of the narrative.

If Comey notified congress, via the Gang of Eight oversight, the counter-intel narrative would have been harder to manufacture as details would have to be consistent.  That’s the benefit to keeping any oversight away while creating the politically useful narrative.

In May 2017, CIA Director John Brennan, facing the looming reality the underlying Russian ‘collusion evidence’ being non-existent, was trying to give the appearance that he briefed congress on larger Russian election interference issues.  However , the trouble for Brennan is his own admission that these issues were the underlying principle for the FBI counter-intelligence investigation.  Brennan specifically says he gave his intelligence product to the FBI.

Brennan was attempting to create plausible deniability for his role in a constructing a political narrative; a false narrative.

Again, May 23rd, 2017, WATCH THE RETREAT:

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It’s not accidental this Brennan retreat is being facilitated by a member of congress John Brennan admits to briefing last year.  Gang-of-Eight member, Adam Schiff.

BACKSTORY

Now keep in mind, with this interview by Chairman Devin Nunes highlighting there was no official intelligence apparatus used in the creation of the “raw intelligence” passed on by CIA Director John Brennan; and understanding the HPSCI is directing investigative inquiry toward the State Department; and knowing that President Trump has just nominated his own head of the CIA to become Secretary of State; …is it a surprise to see the political leadership of the Democrat Party attempting to block Pompeo?

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781 Responses to Sunday Talks – Explosive Interview With Devin Nunes…

  1. MaineCoon says:

    They will finally tune in when trials begin, jail time begins. There’s an upside to their ignorance- fewer riots.

    Liked by 5 people

  2. ablefox says:

    Well

    Liked by 1 person

  3. SamlAdams says:

    This is unraveling in a hurry…

    Liked by 2 people

  4. Peoria Jones says:

    Well then, it will be all the more delicious to watch them in moonbat shock when they realize they’ve been duped by the media and their demigods again…just like when PTrump won.

    By the way, interesting handle. Are we related?

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  5. theresanne says:

    Genesis 6:5 “And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
    Looks like the Democrats have a history dating back to Noah’s time. I hope the flood comes soon and wipes them all out.

    Liked by 14 people

    • Newt Love says:

      But why would God cause another flood because of the depraved and deceitful behavior of the 20 people at the top of the Obama / Trump FBI and the top 45 people in the Obama / Trump DoJ.

      Better that we Deplorables keep up the pressure for US Law to be applied equally to that “Gang of 65” and when almost all of them are in prison for several lifetimes, and each of them owing 4 or 5 figures in fines, then the 2nd Biblical flood can be averted.

      Punish the 65, and don’t punish the billions of people that had nothing to do with the diseased FBI / DoJ.

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      • nbkilgore says:

        Relax, God made a promise not to destroy the world by flood ever again, behold the rainbow you see is my promise to my people that I will not destroy it with flood ever again! Yes, theresanne’s remark is part biblical and stark sarcasm, he just left out the rest of Genesis 6:5 and beyond about the meaning of the rainbow!

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        • Too Real says:

          Trump appears to have accurately identified a key issue with the “Pakistani mystery man” that comes straight from court documents.

          Lawyers for Pakistani-born Imran Awan currently have a copy of the contents of a laptop with the username RepDWS
          Wasserman Schultz wanted to block prosecutors from seeing what was on it
          Imran’s lawyers have attempted to set up a situation where it is up to Imran whether prosecutors can see the laptop, claiming “attorney client privilege”
          Other analysts say the laptop should be fair game for review

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          • WSB says:

            If it is a Government-bought laptop…government emails…government information.

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          • PS says:

            I don’t think attorney client privilege means what Awan thinks it means in this context. It is not a get out of jail free card. The statement was in a notebook, not the laptop. The laptop was recovered from a drop-off point, not from a law office like Cohen. The FBI has the laptop, and defense has been arguing if it is admissible evidence against them.

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            • MAJA says:

              Is this the one found hidden in a cranny in the rayburn building that Dec then threatened the capitol police with “consequences” if they didn’t give it back to her? The threat to the police is on video.

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      • Margaret Walker says:

        The next time God destroys the world, not earth, but the governments of men and those not listening to God, it won’t be by flood. But Armagedon is the next prophesy.

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    • Deb says:

      If you are serious, you should know God promised he would never send a great flood the earth again. That’s what the rainbow signifies.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Wade Coody says:

      Thus, Brennan is the penultimate button pusher. BHO is at the top of the pyramid.
      Brennan MUST be indicted to get to the next level.

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      • Steven says:

        And Lynch (Holder, too), and Kerry (we can’t ignore Killary) and who’s else in the IC? Once we link them together, Obama cannot escape the connection.

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        • drdeb says:

          And Iranian born Valerie Jarrett. She was WTP’s unelected President for the 8 years of the “Obama” presidency. She was not elected yet she ran our country. She is a Communist. If anyone needs the death sentence, she is the one! She is Evil to the CORE!

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    • solomonpal says:

      As in a red wave. I like it. The dims have been around that long and longer even.

      Liked by 2 people

      • hoghead says:

        I don’t think the demoncrap party goes back that far, it just seems like it. One thing’s for sure, the antediluvian corruptnics would find they have a lot in common with the d’s.

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  6. thedoc00 says:

    My take on this is that Brennan and Clapper, using DNC leaning contractors were pulling together raw intel data to feed the FBI and DoJ conspirators. In the mean time, DNC contractors were privy to raw INTEL data from Trump and RNC communications intercepts for campaign support purposes. Rogers is able to halt the contractors gathering data and eventually alerts Trump. In the meanwhile, the FBI and DoJ conspirators are the actual direct hand on executors of the conspiracy with Clapper, Brennan, a few trusted INTEL operators and DNC contractors providing the raw data from somewhere.

    Of interest is that Clapper and Brennan may have actually been telling the “Truth” about the data they gave congress. The republicans did not see anything indicating Trump was under attack, while neverTrumpers and democrats leaked any stuff damaging to Trump. That makes the FBI and DoJ leadership omissions, lying, obfuscation, contradictory testimony, leaking, FISA work and lack of reporting all that much more damning to just the FBI and DoJ.

    For Nunes to make the claims he has made, means the FISA documents he saw really are do do, which also explains why Schiff has been so silent and CNN employees Clapper & Brennan act so smug. This also leads one to consider, how rigorous were the Judges approving the FISA’s, if they were not in on it and implies the FBI may have been blindly trusted (another reason for the INTEL community to stay clear as a jaundiced source).

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  7. fred5678 says:

    We need a damn MOVIE to ‘splain the high treason to Joe and Joanna Q Public — as “All the President’s Men” did for a minor burglary and the more significant subsequent coverup.

    This is so complicated and unbelievable that the mere overview of the full story, in spite of the MSM news near-blackout of the truth, is incomprehensible to them.

    Or maybe a year-long mini-series with some hot stars that will draw the Democrat/Hollywood demo to watch and FINALLY see, absorb, and BELIEVE the outright sedition and treachery of this cabal.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      I like the year-long mini-series with British, Russian and Australians offices for those who really the long version to understand all.

      Jail is the short version all will understand.

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      • Looking forward to a 24×7 webcam in every one of their cells.

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      • Fools Gold says:

        We’re watching a movie now and it’s live, real and realtime. It’s also a very long movie and it just getting started. The white hats have been incredible so far in my opinion. We also have Sundance laying out the complexities of the case and evidence beautifully. Thx Sundance!

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      • nbkilgore says:

        There is a need for a yellow pill in addition to the blue pill and red pill, but this extra red double pill will be hard for many to swallow without taking the yellow pill first. Heck, many have not fully adapted to the red pill yet, that extra red pill is going to very hard to swallow for many! I refer to the to extra red pill to mean international involvement of other allied countries who aided our US alphabet soup Inc. Nunes barely touched on the 5 five eyes and you could see the angst in his eyes and demeanor today with Maria on Fox news. He’s trying to start laying out how enormous this monster really is, but Nunes deserves a lot of credit for having the courage and his level best to trying to educate everyone about the facts of the matter (the red pilling in progress). Sundance has been doing his best in leading the treepers through the FBI and DOJ portion, but folks its way bigger than that! Educate yourselves by researching, let your fingers start doing the walking and guide them to the 5 eyes and the 7 dwarfs (CIA prism)!

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      • jeff montanye says:

        i would think the announcement of pleas and the trials, if they come, would be covered fairly extensively by even the tv networks.

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    • Conservativeinny says:

      Too many will think it was made up.

      Liked by 2 people

    • littleanniesfannie says:

      I’m not sure the lefties/Socialists/Commies are capable of following this. We’ve been brought along on this and sometimes it is almost more than we can absorb. The other group will start as the blind who cannot see, the deaf who cannot hear and the dumb who cannot…. let’s just leave them at dumb, okay??

      Liked by 2 people

    • farmhand1927 says:

      Dinesh d’Souza, are you interested in putting this into a movie, mini series, etc?

      Liked by 6 people

    • Snow White says:

      I liked the movie Fred. I wish there was a sequel to it.

      Liked by 2 people

    • yamabudo says:

      I need it myself, in spite of faithful studying here…so so complex

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    • Nikita's_UN_Shoe says:

      I would like to see Clint Eastwood write, produce, and direct a movie from all of the data gleaned from SD articles on this apparent coup. He could call it The Empty Chair Gets Indicted.

      Liked by 2 people

    • joeknuckles says:

      That would be “Six Ways to Sunday”, coming to a theater near you in 2020.

      Liked by 4 people

  8. Proud American from Texas says:

    Mueller and Rosey need to be targets of an investigation related to this mess. Then, they can be removed via recusal.
    Or, Rosey can be impeached by Congress for signing onto FISA applications without official evidence/intelligence. Next person up can nuke Mueller.
    Is there anyone honest that is next in line? How sad that we don’t know for sure!

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    • Newt Love says:

      Here is the rant I posted to AG Sessions today, on the DoJ home page “Contact Us” form:
      AG Sessions,
      You must be proud of yourself.

      Comey oversaw the forming of an FBI/DoJ conspiracy to commit treason by undermining and obstructing the duly elected 45th President.

      Under your watch, you endorsed D-AG Rosenstein, as he enacted the “Insurance Policy” [the plot that Page and Strzok proposed in McCabe’s office] by appointing Mueller. Regardless of the original lies written by Rosenstein, Mueller’s real target has always been to “GET Trump” on anything that he can.

      You must be bursting with pride over how your US Attorney SDNY took a US Election charge that Senator Sanders settled for $14M, and used the same charge to “no knock” warrant invade the home, offices, and hotel room of the lawyer for The Trump Organization.

      AG Sessions, you have no honor, if you can’t see the hypocrisy that is evident to all Americans. There is a reason that Mueller is very down in the polls. If a poll were conducted on your performance in office, it would also be bad.

      I realize that you have a sweetness for D-AG Rosenstein, but I would have hoped that your love of the Canon of Law was stronger.

      Rod Rosensein was a part of the FISA Court violations. He signed for the DoJ on the last extension application to the FISA Court, to keep the illegal search and seizure of all phone calls and emails to or from all Trump Associates, which were funneled to the Obama Admin and everyone involved in the Conspiracy.

      I have to doubt you, when you endorse the sedition and treason of Rod Rosenstein, a co-conspirator of Comey, McCabe, and all the rest of the people that he is protecting from prosecution.

      Your actions have led me to completely doubt you, and your integrity.

      How could you, the former Senator from Alabama, be reduced to carrying water for Obama’s Shadow Cabinet? How can you be helping Rosenstein and Mueller frame President Trump on false charges?

      How can you aid and abet Rosenstein protecting his co-conspirators in sedition?

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      • ablefox says:

        Simple….5D Chess.

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        • jeff montanye says:

          you can’t overestimate social mood. the raid on his lawyer probably helped trump all in all as it seems so wrong. mueller is losing every day in nearly every way. adam schiff has gone quiet after being so up and everywhere.

          trump’s timing seems exquisite. the wait for the doj ig report and then the huber indictments and pleas, not to say testimony at any trials: excruciating and attention riveting. he is a showman, after all.

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      • Well, I like…… But good luck getting a reply on that….. 🙂

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      • ezpz2 says:

        👍🏻👏👍🏻 Beautiful Newt Love. Beautiful!

        Thank you.

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      • blind no longer says:

        You go Newt!!! Wrote one myself last week, but not as eloquent as yours. AG Sessions needs to be encouraged to do the right thing by all of us now.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Conservativeinny says:

        You should read Mickey Wasp’s post on the open Pres thread that explains how long each action takes and just how much of a corrupt DoJ AG Sessions is dealing with.

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      • Nice shot.

        AMERICA 1st & Forever

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      • davidb says:

        @ Newt…..when I first started reading CTH you were sitting on the fence with Sessions. Now you send him a letter that will be a ticket for a no knock visit to your house. Im impressed. I would like to give you a thumbs up, Trump style.

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        • Newt Love says:

          > “@ Newt…..when I first started reading CTH you were sitting on the fence with Sessions. Now you send him a letter that will be a ticket for a no knock visit to your house. Im impressed. I would like to give you a thumbs up, Trump style.”

          Thank you, and I accept it with enthusiasm!

          I still reserve the right to modify my beliefs based on the evolving world, and newly revealed facts!

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  9. Jane Smith says:

    So, if referrals for criminal prosecution are sent to the DOJ for this cast of bad actors and Sessions continues to do nothing, what good is it? We’ll never see justice.

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    • LULU says:

      There is a prosecutor – Huber – already working in concert with IG Horowitz.

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      • Guy Bee says:

        Blaming Sessions is such a bad rap. If Sessions had jumped into the middle of this with guns blazing day one – how much of what we know today would have been buried. It took time and patience to build this case and uncover all of the shennagians that have been going on. Sessions and Trump have been working together to give Horowitz time to unearth the skullduggary that has been at the heart of this caper. Give Sessions the benefit of the doubt.

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      • Newt Love says:

        > “There is a prosecutor – Huber – already working in concert with IG Horowitz.”

        Okay, on the plus side of the ledger, AG Sessions has a credit.

        On the minus side is that the US Attorney SDNY took an FEC charge that Bernie Sanders had settled for $14M, and used it to get a “no knock” warrant for Cohen’s home, offices, and hotel room.

        So Bernie Sanders pays a fine, but the full Gestapo power of the FBI and DoJ were used to intimidate Trump’s lawyer?

        Will AG Sessions tell Huber to just file a report and let the criminal Donkeys from the Obama Administration get off with only a black mark on their record?
        I’m sure Eric Holder will put that along side his Contempt of Congress citation, in which nothing happened.

        I’m sorry Treepers, but go ahead and label me one of your miscreants. I think the fix is already in, and anyone who challenges the DeepState will be shown the “dossier” that the DeepState has on the one who raises a complaint.
        Get an indictment, and Obama’s shadow government will ruin your life, and your family’s life.

        I am ready to scream for hours in anger at the criminal behavior in the top ranks of the FBI, DoJ, NSA, IRS, State Dept, et cetera.

        I won’t let myself go anywhere near DC. I would be too tempted to carry and use a baseball bat.

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    • DrNo76 says:

      I am reminded of this from Macbeth that reflects even now what might have happened had the woman won after all her misdeeds moral and criminal lying within her estate as SOS and within the CF: “What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our power to account.”

      This power needs be called to account.

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  10. ristvan says:

    Stepping out of lurking lawyer role to make a hopefully substantive if somewhat long comment this fine Sunday evening. I have been thinking about Nunes remarks and then researching. Everything below is a google fu away ‘verifiable’ from the likes of NYT, BBC, Hill, Politico.
    My basic question starts from Nunes observation that there is no Russia collusion, (indirectly confirmed by Muellers failure to report any after more than a year of heavy duty investigation). So, how does this nothingburger idea endure even up to a DNC Friday conspiracy lawsuit? AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

    Parsing Nunes to Bartiromo in brief, no 5eyes formal intelligence in EC. State department irregularities (Blumenthal, Shearer Clinton operatives) feeding State feeding FBI. Looks bad. Nunes is playing his straight arrow cards, as he should since he is a straight arrow.

    But now ask the Crooked Arrow question, so why does the Russian Collusion fake news persist? A: it had to be carefully constructed PR. Now, does HRC have that degree of intelligence? Highly doubtful. Does BHO? Maybe, but why destroy your legacy for HRC?? So who has both motive and incentive (and likely also ability) to carefully construct a lie based on a semblance of reality? Yup, the Clinton Foundation. What follows is a breadcrumbs trail through many google fu’d media reports.

    The Russia collusion story per NYT and BBC started when then Aus ambassador to UK Alexander Downer reported to US State on a London ‘wine bar’ conversation he had with minor Trump campaign volunteer George Papadapolous concerning Russian access to Clinton emails reported to P. by shady Maltse (with definite Russian connections) Maltese Prof. Milfsud, then at a shortly thereafter defunk London thinktank. Note convenient lack of subsequent traceability.
    Second, Papadapolous is ‘convicted’ by Mueller of lying about Milfsud. BUT what if Milfsud/Downer was the actual lier? Then P. was setup framed on purpose to further the narrative..
    Third, how the heck did a 30 year old energy consultant arrange to meet with Australia’s UK ambassador at a London bar??? Answer, it was per many press reports set up by Downer, not P.! WTF??
    Fourth, before Downer was Australia’s UK ambassador, he was the AUS Foreign Minister. AND, in that capacity, he arranged for Australia to give $25 million to the Clinton Foundation in 2006. A well known, long time CF ‘friend’. The London ‘favor’ is a small ‘Godfather’ return.

    So, as some have observed, all roads lead eventually to the Pay-for-Play Clinton Foundation.
    The ‘insurance policy’ may have been hatched inside DoJ/FBI. But its antecedents were carefully designed by the Clinton Foundation to continue its extraordinarily profitable pay to play with HRC as President. The Lynch/Comey/Clapper saps were just pawns.
    We Deplorables managed to stop that thanks grace to God. Now stuff hits the fan.

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    • Former lurker says:

      Excellent posts. I disagree with the last sentence, however.

      Stuff isn’t going to hit the fan. Instead, now they all hang from nooses because nobody fixed this s**t.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Aren’t we expected to think the bar meeting was blind luck?

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      • iRock says:

        Ha! No way Clinton Foundation hack and erstwhile Australian diplomat just happens to run into Papadapolous to chat him up about Clinton email woes.

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        • Robert Smith says:

          Doesn’t he also have a spooky background?

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        • Your Tour Guide says:

          Isn’t Downer “interesting?” . As in cross dressing, ( maybe for starters)
          interesting. Maybe Papadapolous and him were meeting up for something
          else. Maybe that was the pretext towards Papadapolous. The intent for
          the meeting was the five eyes frame up. Maybe the start up of it was a
          honey trap.
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          • Your Tour Guide says:

            I know. Replying to myself. Look up pictures of Papadopolous
            online. He’s married. To an Italian bombshell, utterly out of his
            league. The interesting thing in all the snuggly pictures?

            Tell me if the babe doesn’t look photoshopped into the pictures.
            Rather poorly, IMO.

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    • margarite1 says:

      That’s interesting. So the CF donor paid but he needed her to be POTUS so he could play. This is an understandable theory. And basically it always comes down to money, doesn’t it, and Hillary was reliable at getting her friends on the American gravy train.

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    • Just prove it in a court of law………….

      AMERICA 1st – Forever

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    • gda says:

      Maybe the puppet-master is that good friend of the Clinton Foundation – George Soros.

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      • Johnnydub says:

        As Q has said many times, the paymasters were Saudi Arabia.

        Hence the recent clear out sponsored by MBS (and I assume at the urging of Trump).

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      • Rhoda R says:

        I’d believe that Soros was the puppet master before I’d believe that some anonymous clerk in the CF was pulling the strings or even a former Finance Minister from Australia.

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    • Mickey Wasp says:

      Brennan CIA coup operations from the beginning. FBI sniffed out some overseas stuff that Brennan had going on and decided they would send agents to investigate and build upon their end. Brennan got pizzed with the ‘super-spy’ agents from the FBI stepping out on his turf, b/c, as what happened – they (FBI) left a trail.

      So, Brennan re-grouped and first step in congressional hearing said he did what FBI director was suppose to do. Then Brennan left a few crumbs for the FBI to follow that would implicate themselves in the coup. It worked, only FBI agents and their lawyer buds in DOJ have been implicated so far.

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    • George Hicks says:

      Ristvan, I enjoy your out-of-lurking posts. Please share your comments/research at any time.
      Thank you.

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      • ristvan says:

        Whenever I have something of objective substance to contribute. Just like on many separate climate change blogs. Now, when I might have something of substance to contribute depends soley on me. Am real big on substance over blog opinion. I have lots of opinions, none relevant to public discourse.

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    • Hillard says:

      I have done this same “deep dive” of available information online. Somewhere in the Cody Shears, Sid Blumenthal, Clinton world is documents pertaining to all of the underpinnings of the Downer plot. As devious as that world is, those Clinton operatives would be saving cya material. Who and how dirty a person would need to be to find and expose the original planning documents would rip the lid off the whole deal. Aside from obvious State Dept, CIA and WH people, this planned was hatched outside of government.

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    • 196ski says:

      Excellent post ristvan, also really enjoyed your book. A big thank you.

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      • ladypenquin says:

        What book?

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        • ristvan says:

          LP, there are actually three ebooks, all available Amazon Kindle, iBooks, Knobo, and such. The first was titled Gia’s Limits, published early 2012. NeoMalthusian, but with lots of details. Second ebook was The Arts of Truth, mainly proving MSM is hosed. Lots of other messages. Plus penultimate chapter is a ‘climate change’ illustration of all above. So, places me as a confirmed climate skeptic. Third ebook 2014 (publisher also placed iBooks, Kindle, and others) delt with climate change and energy policy. Foreword from Dr. Judith Curry herself. My third ebook is the first you should get and read. Is really cheap on Amazon Kindle just now.
          And, boy am I reluctant to becoming more internet exposed. So please buy and read at least one of my ebooks.

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          • 196ski says:

            Read them all, you’re one of my climate heroes. Executive reasoning skills, well thought out, clear enough even for the undereducated (environmental engineer) and easy to read and grasp. Well done!
            Sorry, didn’t mean to stalk, I recognized the handle from WUWT and wanted to give a well deserved compliment.

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    • jimsung says:

      Thank you for your post.

      IMHO, I don’t think you’re seeing the things which happened before that meeting.

      -Surveillance probably began at least by 2015 (perhaps from January 2009). Obama hated Trump for several reasons, especially because of the birth certificate issue. It was personal.

      -This particular operation probably happened no later than Jan-Apr 2016.
      –This was when the NSA database searching was cut off.
      –It’s when Clinton/DNC/Obama began funneling money through their law firm to Fusion GPS.

      -Shortly afterwards, the FBI begins the process of clearing Hildabeast (May 2016).
      –Fusion GPS hires Ohr’s wife. She gets her ham radio license.
      –It’s when Simpson’s wife was going to the White House.

      -The Trump Jr setup was in June 2016.
      –Fusion GPS is associated with the Russian lawyer.

      There was much, much more which took place before the London/Papa setup.

      This was all a planned operation from day one. Some people new of the operation and others were unwittingly sucked in (Strzok/Page).

      I think the Obama admin planned this op with the help of ValJar, Brennan, State Dept and DoJ players. (Don’t be surprised if Carter Page and others were planted in the campaign just as Trump Jr was setup. The FBI was always going to begin the op in July 2016 whether they knew it or not.)

      Two other things.

      (1) It didn’t matter which Republican won, there was going to be some sort of op against that individual because the leftwingers have gone nuts (and didn’t want to be prosecuted for their crimes).

      (2) No one writes about this. How does the prosecutions begin? Andrew McCarthy wrote an article stating Mueller does things backwards. Prosecutors don’t have people plea to the lesser offenses upfront in exchange for cooperation. What I would do, if I were going to start the avalanche, is have some of the cooperating witnesses plead guilty to SEDITION upfront (Strzok/Page/Baker/Ohr x2) (in exchange for no jail time). This allows others (Clinton/Brennan/Rice) to be successfully charged with that crime. It would give Sessions cover with the media. At any rate, the prosecution should BEGIN with guilty pleas.

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    • Dixie says:

      Okay…Clinton Foundation, but who? Who on the Clinton Foundation Board of Directors is smart enough to come up with this convoluted corrupt plan on behalf of the hillybillies? Perhaps Frank Giustra who has a specialty of creative deal making?

      https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/board-directors

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    • blind no longer says:

      Great post Ristvan. I guess the Clinton Foundation really does hold the keys to the kingdom.

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    • Carrie says:

      Excellent post ristvan- always nice to have a sound legal opinion on things on this site. 2 things: 1) Wasn’t Alexander Downer also before on the advisory board of Hakluyt (now Holdingham Group) in London. This is a firm mostly comprised of former MI6 and they were also hired by Hillary clinton to provide further opposition research. I believe Julian Assange has stated some of this information in combination with Zero Hedge which had a detailed article on Hakluyt. So Downer could easily say that his information was through backchannels at MI6 or GCHQ, which would explain PT’s still frosty relationship with Teresa May.
      2) (totally different topic, but since you are the legal eagle here) Did we ever find out the name of the Magistrate (instead of Judge Berman who was recused) that signed the no-knock search and seizure warrant for Cohen’s office – who also signed with Rosenstein ? I’m curious as to how they knew this individual would definitely sign that controversial warrant.

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    • nbkilgore says:

      Ristvan, What’s the family line of the Clintons, the accumulated money through CF, what are foundations or institutions like McCains intended for, what are the regulations covering them. Now what happens when 3 or more wealthy individuals decide to act on their life long dreams when simply using your wealth to influence certain governments isn’t enough anymore? We all know money means power, but what happens when three power brokers from different countries decide to merge together? Everything that is coming to surface has been in progress for the last 30 years, Obama just put on steroids! We have a billionare POTUS who watch these evil bastards working like ants everyday, each day he learned more and more until he could see their evil intentions and finally threw his hat in the ring. Remember he’s a builder and financial minded person that knows how to play hard ball when needed to merge companies together or dismantle them. So far he has kicked one of those legs out from under the three legged stool (SA Billion dollar Prince) that was used by power brokers. I wonder why Obama and Hildabeast were making all those over seas trips, hmmm…that sounds like another money spigget sqeeking off again! Cheers!

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    • WSB says:

      Remember, Papadopoulos was a Clinton State Department recipient of a slot at the 2011 UNESCO Forum.

      http://www.pacificpundit.com/2017/11/01/hillary-clinton-picked-george-papadopoulos-to-represent-us-at-2011-unesco-in-paris/

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  11. Zippy says:

    “Brennan was NOT using official partnerships with intelligence agencies of our Five-Eyes partner nations; and he did not provide raw intelligence -as an outcome of those relationships- to the FBI.”

    WHAT makes you so damned sure? THAT would be a route that they most certainly would NOT want to go down because it would only add ANOTHER layer to the chain of lawlessness and a HUGE one at that. I’ve posted UK news reports about how it was revealed that the US surveilled UK citizens FOR the UK, something that even Nunes has stated is NOT legal.

    Oversight of intel agencies by Congress is -IMAGINARY- as candid quotes from a former head of the oversight committee has shown. They hide ANYTHING they want to and Five Eyes being used against a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE sure as HELL would be one of them. And the resignation of the head of the GCHQ “for personal reasons” three days after Trump was nominated was just a coincidence…

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    • Zippy says:

      “three days after Trump was sworn in”

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    • Zippy says:

      ““Brennan was NOT using official partnerships with intelligence agencies of our Five-Eyes partner nations”

      That’s the part of the quote I have issue with. How would you or anyone other than a very small number of people in the CIA and GCHQ know? Think they’d EVER tell Congress?

      “and he did not provide raw intelligence -as an outcome of those relationships- to the FBI.”

      OF COURSE he wouldn’t have even if he had it as the acquisition of that intel ALONE is illegal LET ALONE the USE of it.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Didn’t GCHQ also sidestep the NSA to impart their contribution of “intelligence”? So unofficial channels were being used. They were banking on the multiple layers of secrecy cloaking this long enough for Trump to be gone already. I think whether it is legal for the 5-eyes to be surveilling each other’s population is besides the point. Because this is very deep in the weeds that it has rarely if ever been mentioned.

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      • Zippy says:

        I have no doubt whatsoever that unofficial channels were used since the activity was HELLA illegal! Also, note the NSA’s Judith Emmel claim below. No wonder they bypassed the NSA.

        ‘Concrete evidence of collusion between Trump team and Russia’ handed to official investigation – New evidence comes as sources reveal British spy agency GCHQ played pivotal role in uncovering interactions between US President and Russian operatives

        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-russia-investigation-now-has-specific-concrete-and-corroborative-evidence-of-collusion-a7683386.html

        Excerpt:

        Spy agencies, including GCHQ, were not deliberately targeting members of the Trump team but rather recorded communications through “incidental collection,” CNN reports.

        ——–

        This article and many others came from the Snowden revelations on ECHELON:

        Is ‘The Five Eyes Alliance’ Conspiring to Spy on You?
        The dire threat of surveillance agencies working together to keep an eye on one another’s citizens

        https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/is-the-five-eyes-alliance-conspiring-to-spy-on-you/277190/

        By May last year 300 analysts from GCHQ, and 250 from the NSA, had been assigned to sift through the flood of data. The Americans were given guidelines for its use, but were told in legal briefings by GCHQ lawyers: “We have a light oversight regime compared with the US”. When it came to judging the necessity and proportionality of what they were allowed to look for, would-be American users were told it was “your call”.

        Say you’re the NSA. By law, there are certain sorts of spying you’re not lawfully allowed to do on Americans. (And agency rules constraining you too.) But wait. Allied countries have different laws and surveillance rules. If there are times when America’s spy agency has an easier time spying on Brits, and times when Britain’s spying agency has an easier time spying on Americans, it’s easy to see where the incentives lead. Put bluntly, intelligence agencies have an incentive to make themselves complicit in foreign governments spying on their own citizens.

        NSA spokeswoman Judith Emmel rejected any suggestion the U.S. agency used the British to do things the NSA cannot do legally. Under U.S. law, the NSA must get authorization from a secret federal court to collect information either in bulk or on specific people. “Any allegation that NSA relies on its foreign partners to circumvent U.S. law is absolutely false. NSA does not ask its foreign partners to undertake any intelligence activity that the U.S. government would be legally prohibited from undertaking itself,” Emmel said.

        What about when foreign partners aren’t “asked,” per se, to collect information the NSA isn’t allowed to gather… but just happen to have it because, you know, they collect basically everything? (“incidental collection” as mentioned above – Zippy)

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        • Zippy says:

          And THIS is the REAL scandal, NOT the investigation based on what OBVIOUSLY turned out to be GARBAGE intel or we would have seen some results by now, but in HOW that intel reached the US in the first place. So, they’re stuck with a unjustified investigation started via hugely illegal underground/back door actions taken to mount an attack against a candidate for the presidency of the US of A!

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        • jeans2nd says:

          Ah, Zippy. You are not telling us anything we do not already know. Relax a bit.
          Have you read the all the links included in the post above? Highly recommended so to do, avoids looking foolish.
          Just between you and me, some of us actually worked at those places to which you referred and know exactly what is going on. Unlike the Comeys, et al, we honor our pledge to protect classified info and shut up.

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          • Zippy says:

            I went off when I read the quote I originally had differences with and didn’t read further. Now, I have. Glad to see that we’re all on the same page and hope that a significant percentage of the inattentive, propagandized, short attention span citizenry comes to know this, too. It’s YUGE! If people aren’t doing perp walks into bubba prison in a reasonable amount of time, at least it will make a GREAT book. Dan Bongino is working on one.

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            • jeans2nd says:

              Zip, it is called Battered Conservative Syndrom. We all have it. Search for the explication here on CTH. Rage emerges at times, we just talk each other down. Your turn will come 😉

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        • ablefox says:

          They can not prosecute this in the court system. CIPA will be invoked. It won’t work.

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      • Tripp says:

        Robert Hannigan,GCHQ, personally briefed Brennan at Langley in Spring of 2016.

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        • Zippy says:

          Ah, thanks for that. It feels so great to use leftist sources to BONE THEM:

          Int’l Spy Agencies First to Spot ‘Suspicious Interactions’ Between Russia, Trump Team

          https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/04/13/intl-spy-agencies-first-spot-suspicious-interactions-between-russia-trump-team

          Excerpts on the perps:

          According to one source, Robert Hannigan, who at the time was director of GCHQ, “passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at ‘director level.’ After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.”

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          • ablefox says:

            They have a desk right in Maryland and pass the dope back an forth. Right in HQ. The Brits have total access to the NSA data an do whatever the Spooks want to spy on us an launder it right down the line. EZ to figure. The Limeys are screwing us over.

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    • ecmarsh says:

      Is this part of Rudie’s negations, no Five-Eyes?
      Other than Canada all of the English speaking (cousins) countries radio broadcasts sound just like NPR.
      I call BS on no Five-Eyes.

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  12. positron1352 says:

    The Admin. can’t have this rolled out at once. If they did mass indictments, we would lose the mid -terms for sure. The public is pretty clueless and has to be fed the truth slowly. It’s amazing to me how much they can’t handle. This group in the Treehouse is savvy and intelligent. You have a lot of knowledge and experience in tandem with common sense. Sadly, the average person doesn’t have all of that. They have their backyard barbecues, school involvement and other daily, local things going on . They can’t possibly ingest the massiveness of the corruption and treason at one time. As much as it pains me, too, I understand that they have to draw out those around Hillary and Obama and then, I hope to God, they go after those two.

    Q may or may not be the real deal but he has been saying for quite some time….military tribunals.

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    • Earl & Pearl Tourist says:

      “The public is pretty clueless and has to be fed the truth slowly. It’s amazing to me how much they can’t handle.”
      I have tried red-pilling some acquaintenances, and their resposnse is “I don’t see a red pill, what are you talking about?” They can’t accept what they don’t/can’t/won’t comprehend.

      When this does start to roll out, the leftist riots will start in the liberal cities, with the starting gun trigger most likely pulled by BHO and/or HRC. Maybe even Bernie will activate his army.
      Martial law comes to mind….

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      • Deb says:

        All we have to do is point out some simple, common sense ways that the media and Dems are full of s***. Things that smell so badly of BS, even the average person can smell it. Once we point out the media are full of it, it’s hard for them to convince enough people to go along with their schemes.

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    • Running Fast says:

      Agreed… it is too easy and nice to keep watching movies, tv and cable news. Thinking? Yeah right!

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    • ablefox says:

      It iz de only way. The courts can not deal with this…..CIPA….

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    • kevlarskave says:

      I usually am not clueless on topics that interest me, but the further down the rabbit hole this goes, the more clueless I feel. Like a snowflake. I do appreciate the analysis on this site and accompanying “facts” where possible. It is too insane to comprehend, much less see how the public will ever be satisfied that justice is served (unless HRC is on 24 hr. live-feed video in her max security cell).

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  13. Holly Huston says:

    Thank you so much for your investigative work, I would have never know how deep this rabbit hole goes without reading your columns everyday. All I can say is WOW your good at putting together all the pieces!!

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  14. JX says:

    CIA Dir Brennan is connected to the passport break-in and the Benghazi video. The CIA ran/runs Business International Corporation, for whom Obama worked (1983-4).

    So, the CIA is connected to creating Obama, attempting to install Clinton, and framing Trump. Oh and Clinton “Friend of Bill” George Bush was head of the CIA. The CIA that ran drugs into Mena, Arkansas.

    So many coincidences.

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  15. Chip Doctor says:

    IMO, I think that very little will actually happen to these traitors. I think the raid on Cohen was deep state’s Hail Mary. While maybe not illegal, they have embarrassing info on Trump. They likely have criminal activity by Cohen. They will put enormous pressure on him. Trump holds two important cards. One is a pardon, but the political fallout would be horrific. The other card is Rudy. Although he has been gone for many years, Rudy has connections to SDNY and the contents on Weiner’s laptop. A deal will be made. The investigations stop, Mueller is allowed to save face, the top levels of the deep state are neutered but left to walk. They will throw us some red meat with a Comey, McCabe or some other FBI file clerk and that will be that. Rush is right. Hillary and Obama will never be prosecuted.

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  16. Wow! Seymour Hersh has said the Trump/Russia hoax was a “Brennan Operation”. This has me re-thinking the level of the conspiracy. Its not as vast as we think. Here goes my alleged theory:

    CONSPIRATORS
    Brennan- HRC lackey who wanted to keep his job.
    Clapper- See above
    HRC- The Witch herself
    Uma Abedin- Consort and aspiring witch
    Blumenthal- liason between HRC and Fusion GPS
    Jonathon Winer- liason between Fusion GPS and Steele
    Chris Steele- laundrymat for dossier to give it legitimacy
    McCabe- point man at the FBI
    The FBI small group- See Sundance’s work
    George Pappandopolous- A Clinton or Brennan mole
    Carter Page- An FBI asset

    DUPES
    McCain/Harry Reid- unwitting dupes who hated Trump
    Comey- hard to believe, but I believe he was another unwitting dupe who was manipulated by McCabe and the small group. The fall guy.
    Rod Rosenstein- See Comey. Got his name on FISA warrants.
    The Obama WH- Again, I can not believe I am typing this, but Obama may have been lied to about the intelligence. Certainly he knew about the spying and authorized it, but I do not believe he knew the underlying intelligence was fake. He was given a BS report by the IC and probably told worse in private. Obama, Biden, Rice, Lynch, Yates, Powers were likely bamboozled by the FBI and IC. No effin way Obama destroys his legacy with liberals, the Dems, or MSM by getting in this scheme. Rather sinister that Brennan would setup the first black President. But that old commie is a POS.

    Guys, we have to face the reality that a conspiracy has to be rather small to work. This one is unraveling fast. But lets not sound like ignorant tin foil hat wearing dorks who think everyone was involved and everyone is going to prison. Comments like that are a full on retarded. Yes we all hate Barry and HRC, but stick with what can be proven. Nunes is a rock star and a patriot. He threw Pappandpolous in there for a reason.

    Right now we are looking at a poker game of raises and re-raises by the players as Mueller deals the cards. There is a need to protect some of these institutions and not burn them down. Trump, Mueller, Sessions, Rosey, and Wray and Nunes all know that. There must be a level of justice but we may not know the full scope. Some guilty are going to walk. I think Mueller would be willing to serve up everyone but HRC to POTUS45. I think Obama was conned and in the dark. But maybe Mueller throws in a few WH heads without painting them in the broader conspiracy. I would be willing to let HRC skate if they got everyone else on my list and let us know 90% of what went down. It will destroy a large portion of the Dems and cement Trumps place in history and thats good enough for me.

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    • Glad you’re not in charge then. 😄

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    • MS Idaho says:

      I have a question. if it has been revealed to Nunes, one of the congress representatives ‘briefed’, – and, if you were one of the others, like McConnel or Ryan, why would you not be shouting to everyone that you had been duped into being an anti trumper? why would you not get on the wagon / witch hunt for those who lied to you. Of course, I know the answer – but what would you do if you found out someone you trusted lied to you?

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    • Exfiltration of Wealth says:

      I disagree, Freddy. We can’t surmise the lengths Obama et. al. would go to keep their crimes revealed until we know to what extent those crimes are horrific.
      I think they ARE horrific, and he would go to any and all lengths to keep them from being discovered.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      Too many other crimes against this country and citizens were committed under and by O and his administration for me to think he was’t involved in the biggest crime of all. Nope. Zebra doesn’t change his stripes.

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    • icehole3 says:

      What about the pedo stuff,Trump has all that stuff and seems to want to expose it.

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    • Betty says:

      In that case we should soon be hearing heart felt apologies from the Dupes and Fall Guys.
      As regards Lisa Page and Peter Strozk, when I read “The entire construct of the “Russian Investigation” was the political use of manufactured intelligence, used to create an investigation in order to weaken, perhaps eliminate, President-Elect Trump or President Trump. This was their “insurance policy”.

      And then read Strozk and Page emails “I want to believe the path u threw out 4 consideration in Andy’s office-that there’s no way he gets elected-but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk.It’s like an insurance policy in unlikely event u die be4 you’re 40”

      I can’t help but think that there is more to their reluctance to accept Donald Trump as president. After all if they were just Hillary supporters then wouldn’t that sentence read: “… there’s no way he gets elected – but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk, we need to research how we can best meet the needs of our new president.

      Or something like that, for sure not enter into a treasonous plot to overthrow or severely curtail the effectiveness of our newly elected president.

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    • Akh says:

      Hmm tbat was a well thought out attempt to let Clinton skate again.

      How about, no? She goes down hard. She faces justice for every single crime she ever committed.

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    • Deb says:

      It doesn’t have to be a huge conspiracy. A small group can get a huge group of people to believe a lie and fabricate evidence. All they need is a large group of useful idiots who aren’t bright enough to question them, or people so wrapped up in their ideology they will believe whatever their tribe wants them to believe. The media/Democrat base fit this bill, and so they are easily manipulated.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        To extend your comment. People do not even have to be “useful idiots” when using the disconnected siloes of the US government behemoth to gather your data and actually execute some of your requests if the proper paper work is done and nothing looks amiss. A few people can actually exploit each and every part of the US government, throw in a couple of key cooperative bad actors like Brennan and Clapper, the potential becomes frightening.

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    • ablefox says:

      Carter Page is a ‘volunteer’ target. Knowingly. Nail that skunk to de wall.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      You think that Buraq was “conned and in the dark” about all this corruption?
      That must a time joke, I’ll laugh when I get time.
      Now, back to reality.

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    • Freddie we have similar thoughts. I believe Muller is trying to get everyone he can as close to Trump as he can so he has “chips” to play. Ie Cohen, Don Jr., Kushner, Hannity, Flynn and to a lesser extent Maniford.

      Hence, Rudy entering the picture. However, Trump has the ultimate weapon, the presidential pardon. And he showed that card last week with the well deserved pardon of Scooter Libby. Given their crooked shenanigans, I am surprised Obama didn’t pardon all these crooks, theives, traitors and Liers, including himself, before he left office

      Trump can’t let Hillary off. There are way too many crimes. Many of which have not come to light. Sex trafficking (Haiti), extensive pedophelia (Podesta, Obama and Hillary herself) – way too much evidence coming to light, pay to play and murder(Seth Rich the most recent) we can get into Maggie Sunshine(wendie) later, And way to many people are aware of her many crimes and way too many ancillary participants. Podesta, Huma, Mook, Lynch, McCabe, Bloomenthay, Kerry……. these people will not go down without going after her.

      So the best Muller can hope for is massive indictments on the supporting cast and a negotiated presidential pardon for Hillary and Obama!

      This will send a Hugh message to these traitorous power brokers! They have abused the American people, the soon to be great again American economy and committed unbelievable horrors and evil all in the name of power! They MUST GO DOWN NOW, God will get them later!

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      • WSB says:

        Obama did not pardon anyone in this mess…BECAUSE Hillary was guaranteed to win.

        The one question is…what was the plan to guarantee that Hillary was supposed win? I expect that the Department of Homeland Security will be making an announcement at some point.

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    • blind no longer says:

      Sorry Freddy can’t bite that apple. Simple explanation is She wasn’t supposed to lose. They never thought she could lose. It was already rigged for her…what could possibily go wrong??

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    • Craig D says:

      Reply to Freddy Bridgewater – I think you are on to something. Brennan and Clapper wanted Hillary because they wanted to continue in their roles as intelligence leaders or contractors making lots of money. Obama didn’t need this mess, and probably thought that if Brennan and Clapper could pull this off, it would only benefit him (Obama). McCabe needed Hillary to help him (McCabe) continue in some important role. Comey, probably easily persuaded to “go along with anything”.

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  17. ablefox says:

    If not the military what? Does anyone still think the DOJ and Courts can deal with this?

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    • mikey says:

      I’m with you on this….

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    • Oldschool says:

      Nope. They CANNOT AND WILL NOT.

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      • jello333 says:

        A lot of relatively new people around here don’t know you very well. I have to keep telling them that when the time comes for the many indictments and perp-walks, Howie will be THRILLED to admit he had been overly pessimistic. (And by the way, love the video. Everything those guys do is amazing… they’re brilliant.)

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        • ablefox says:

          We are veterans Jell. Can you believe it? The similarity to GZ schemes. Amazing. Just on a grand scale.

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        • ablefox says:

          I think that in the future there will be a one world government due to the technology. Just not now. Now is not the time. 100 years 200, maybe. When we solve the earth problems and maybe move off world. The one world citizens of the world now are just too lame. Social Justice is a terminal disease. Identity Politics….malignant. Islam….repugnant. We a long way down the wrong road. Eventually we will reject this stuff. After a lot of strife.

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          • jello333 says:

            Yeah, maybe in a hundred years or so intelligent beings from another planet will finally come here. They’ll be like, “We would have come sooner, but you guys were still in your infancy… toddler-stage at best. So we waited until we thought you MIGHT finally have things figured out. So here we are… let’s talk.”

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          • 🍺Gunny66 says:

            🤙

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          • WSB says:

            Howie, I was intrigued by Macron’s interview with the insufferable Chris Wallace this morning.

            It was an important interview. For the one disgusting question that Chris asked Macron… whether PT would finish his term, Macron responded with a dignity and surprise that this question would even be asked. And then he apoke avput service to his people.

            I sense that PT is persuading the leaders of Planet Earth to follow a benevolent chief of the tribe type of attitude. In service to your country. Maybe some of them might catch on.

            I return to that great scene in the original movie version of ‘Superman’ with Christopher Reeves. When Marlon Brando and all of the separate leaders come together to solve the galaxy’s problem…they are leaders of representative governments.

            Let’s keep praying and soldiering on.

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    • woohoowee says:

      Howie – What is the legal threshold for these crimes to be before a military tribunal? I think if the crimes meet that threshold then military tribunal it is.

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  18. mikey says:

    The Gang of Eight, less Nunes, as well as Brennan and Clapper need to be facing firing squads via Military Tribunals. The 5 Eyes needs to be disbanded. The fully compromised FBI, DOJ and the SES need to be dismantled. The Judiciary is severely compromised. Congress is severely compromised. CoC is more powerful than Congress. This country needs a reset as everything is completely out of whack.

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  19. Oldschool says:

    Totally played out on “explosive” interviews, tick tock talking heads, outraged congress critters and endless theories, now provided in code.

    Bring on justice, blow it up.

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  20. 4harrisonblog says:

    Executive Oder Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption Issued on: December 21, 2017
    (B) to be a current or former government official, or a person acting for or on behalf of such an official, who is responsible for or complicit in, or has directly or indirectly engaged in:

    (1) corruption, including the misappropriation of state assets, the expropriation of private assets for personal gain, corruption related to government contracts or the extraction of natural resources, or bribery; or

    (2) the transfer or the facilitation of the transfer of the proceeds of corruption;

    (C) to be or have been a leader or official of:

    (1) an entity, including any government entity, that has engaged in, or whose members have engaged in, any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section relating to the leader’s or official’s tenure; or

    (2) an entity whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order as a result of activities related to the leader’s or official’s tenure; or

    (D) to have attempted to engage in any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

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  21. Obs says:

    The reality is a little different….
    We can’t even get a simple open and shut leak / lying charges run against Comey or McCabe who have already confessed and you’re talking about convoluted accusations against Brennan et al.

    Please…..

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  22. quintrillion says:

    understatement of the last 10 years: “We found there is NO Intelligence”……. LOL
    (But they have found criminals and mental illness of the DNC/Uniparty/Media/FBI/DOJ/State/CIA)

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  23. Paco Loco says:

    Obama is guilty. He and Valjar specifically delegated his Whitehouse national security team (Rice, Powers, Rhodes et al) to spy on Trump using the unmasking and FISA survelliance. Via CIA Brennan, they set up the Trump Kompromat first by gathering some low level intel via GCHQ, feeding made up intel to FusionGPS to create the fake Pee Pee dossier, and then set up Papadopoulos with the Aussie meeting about Russian spy’s which was later used to get a FISA warrant.

    It’s pretty clear now that Obama and his entire national security team were used to smear Trumps presidential campaign and then after Clinton lost, created the Big Lie that the Russians helped Trump steal the election. No way should Obama, his henchmen or Clinton be allowed to get away with this sedition.

    Because the US judicial system has been so corrupted, I like the idea of Military Justice being used to try these traitors. After all, Trump is the Commander in Chief and could issue an order tomorrow to arrest the bunch of traitors and throw them into Ft. Leavenworth.

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  24. scott467 says:

    “John Brennan was smartly (and intentionally) positioning himself out of the picture from the perspective of the illegal acts within the entire process. ODNI James Clapper while rubbing his face and scratching his head had taken the same route earlier. That would leave James Comey, Andrew McCabe and the small group within the DOJ-NSD and FBI. The CIA and DNI wanted all fingerprints to be from DOJ and FBI.”

    __________________

    I don’t know why it was ‘smart’.

    If I rob a bank with five other people, and when the cops show up, I point at the other four guys and say ‘they did it’, that doesn’t do anything at all for me, unless I live in fantasy land.

    It doesn’t change the facts, it doesn’t change my participation in the crime, it doesn’t excuse me from the consequences of the crime, it doesn’t accomplish ANYTHING.

    The other four guys aren’t just going to let me skate, and the cops aren’t going to let me walk either.

    It’s just stupid.

    All of it’s stupid.

    These childish games played by grown adults is asinine. Every time you report on it, it’s beyond asinine that they would even think ‘positioning’ oneself ‘out of the picture’ fits with any sort of reality this side of dreamland.

    What planet are these people on?

    The world doesn’t work that way, unless there is something SERIOUSLY messed up inside D.C. By serious I mean something like a rip in the fabric of the TIME – SPACE continuum.

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    • scott467 says:

      edit / correction: the example was supposed to be five guys rob a bank, four others and me.

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    • ablefox says:

      Getting to the point.

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    • woohoowee says:

      They are thugs who don’t care how absurd their propositions are. Bold, in-your-face thugs.

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    • WSB says:

      Scott, for common sense, God-loving people like most of this country, we simply cannot see the train of thought.

      However, if you believe in necessary firewalls, sub-tribal allegiance, and a system rigged in your favor that suddenly collapses…you do whatever you can for survival mode.

      It is clear to me that everyone, from Evelyn Farkas – the original CYA princess – to John Brennan, who Devin Nunes just verbally indicted this morning, has pannicked each within their own capacity for stress.

      Depending on the level of IQ and survival skills, we will see the perpetrators respond as cornered animals. Some jackals, some rats. Sad.

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  25. scott467 says:

    “CIA Director John Brennan was making James Comey own the “Counter-Intelligence ‘Muh Russia’” claims about the Trump campaign. As a consequence, Brennan was trying to make Comey the fall-guy for a Robert Mueller investigative outcome in case everything fell apart and their deployment of the “insurance policy” failed.”

    _______________________

    Right. Except that only works if:

    A) Comey is the most magnanimous patsy in the history of the world, and decides to take the fall for Brennan (why would Comey do that???)

    and

    B) there is no other evidence of Brennan’s participation in the conspiracy… not counting the MOUNTAIN of evidence erupting all around these clowns

    These people are STUPID.

    Or insane.

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    • Brennan’s problem is they have considerable evidence of Brennan and murder! Suspious deaths, Andrew Breitbart and his corner, Michael Hastings, Anthony Scalia, Lt Quarles Harris Jr.and multiple lesser known individuals. He better be negotiating! Selected people have squealed! Get ready Johnny boy, you too will meet the justice you deserve!

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  26. I have a couple questions that maybe you Treepers can help me with. First, I keep hearing that Fusion GPS was paid $1 million or $10-12 million for the dossier. Yet Steele was apparently paid $168,000 (plus maybe $50k from FBI). Where’s the $?

    Second, how come no FISA warrant for Papadopolous, and no indictment for Carter Page? The EC disclosure from Nunes sheds no light on this.

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  27. scott467 says:

    “Brennan was attempting to create plausible deniability for his role in a constructing a political narrative; a false narrative.”

    ________________________

    Yes, and it’s juvenile.

    It’s the kind of thing a 12-year old does.

    Not a grown man who heads one of the most important departments in the federal government of the United States of America.

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  28. I would personally like to thank all of you commenting today for NOT saying “Have patience grasshopper.” I’m to the point now where I want to see some convictions for SOMETHING. I believe there’s enough compelling evidence out there to cause some of these perps to plead guilty in exchange for leniency in sentencing. Get a half dozen or so guilty pleas on the books and perhaps the narrative will change and perhaps the media will give it some attention. Fire up the MAGA base. The DOJ can always go back later for additional charges (RICO or whatever). It might even influence some whistleblowers to come forward. We can hope and pray and predict until the cows come home, but remember somebody’s got to milk them when they get in the barn.

    AMERICA 1st – Forever

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    • ablefox says:

      Unfortunately what you will see is ongoing investigations until the end of time.

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      • Betty says:

        ONLY IF WE ALLOW IT –

        Here are addresses and phone numbers we need to call and call and demand actions, on the level of open to the public grand jury hearing. They all seem to live in a bubble so we need to burst that bubble, I wonder if the DOJ has ever had their switch board crashed the way we were sometimes able to do to congress?

        “Messages to the Department of Justice, including the Attorney General, may be submitted via this form.” https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice.

        Phone calls to the DOJ comment line 202-353-1555

        Letters to the DOJ may be sent to the
        U.S. Department of Justice
        950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
        Washington, DC 20530-0001

        Letters and phone calls to House members (all up for reelection in 2018) and Senators (especially those up for reelection in 2018 should also be made demanding Jeff Sessions resign.

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    • ablefox says:

      Is ‘classified’ evidence allowed to be presented to a Federal GJ?

      Liked by 1 person

    • kevlarskave says:

      The squeeze to get them to roll will have to be so extreme that Arkancide will play second fiddle. That aint’ easy. Must be orchestrated for maximum effect and prosecution.

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  29. superfly007 says:

    I believe McConnell and Ryan was in on the Pee Dossier from the beginning.

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  30. jeans2nd says:

    Fantastic write-up. Talent possessed by few. Thank you, appreciated more than you know.

    One prob (oh, here we go…)

    From para 19 (including indented paras) “the infamous 17 agencies report, from CIA (Brennan), DNI (Clapper), FBI (Comey) and NSA (Rogers), all who had confidence -except Rogers- according to the report, that Russia was attempting to interfere in the 2016 election”

    Actually, all four had high confidence of Russian interference. Rogers had medium confidence in the Clinton aspect. (was what prompted a closer scrutiny of Rogers)

    ICA 2017-01D 6 January 2017 pg. 7, first bullet point
    “We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.”

    Apologies. must weed something, no flowers yet…

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  31. Somebody says:

    Brennan made a surprise trip to Russia on March 14, 2016. According to Moscow Times he met with the FSS which was formerly the KGB. It was sparsely reported at the time but has recently been picked up again by a few blogs in light of everything that is coming out.

    There was a lot of stuff happening with Syria at the time, but Brennan had no meetings with anyone that would indicate he was there about Syria.

    I think that trip is a piece of the puzzle. I think Brennan was one of the main plotters. Interestingly, a week after Brennan left John Kerry arrived in Moscow.

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    • Paco Loco says:

      CIA Director Brennan most likely was the brains behind the entire Kompromat. Brennan gathered some intel from GCHQ and created a story line that he handed to FusionGPS to create the PP dossier to make it salacious and dirty. Brennan gave the finished docier to Comey at the FBI, who took the dossier: legitimized it, paid for it and leaked it to the press. Meanwhile Obama was taking unmasked intel and handing it to Clinton. This was a Soviet style disinformation/smear campaign conducted by the Whitehouse, CIA and FBI during Trumps Presidential campaign and later his Presidency. Pure and evil treachery to steal a US presidential election.

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      • Paco, you nailed it. Brennan after all was the Brains behind Obamas election! Covering ALL Obamas records and contacts. Sealing Obamas passport! And he used it as leverage to secure his position as head of the CIA! Question, why did Saudi’s Prince Alwaleed pay for Obamas Harvard education. How many “ Christians” did Alwaleed pay for? We were set up people! From the beginning! Where did the cash to Iran really end up? How much did Obama and Jarrett skin off the top. Where did the money come from and where is an audit and investigation?

        While we’re at it, where are the investigations into the surprising deaths connected to mr. Brennan?

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  32. limelite001 says:

    How did Sessions not squash the Special Counsel request at the time, seeing as he was privy to Comey’s memo’s, which showed no reason for the SC in the first place? Sessions could have requested the memo’s be released publicly after Comey’s firing. The Dem’s used the memo’s as propaganda for months to build their Russia-Trump narrative, saying the memo’s proved there was collusion. Sessions could’ve stopped this madness before it started.

    Now that the Dem’s lies have been exposed, they’ve switched tactics to sue Trump, Russia and Wikileaks for ‘collusion’.

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  33. fleporeblog says:

    They are petrified of Mike Pompeo becoming Secretary of State! They know that he would know where to look to find everything. TREX didn’t have the will to do so or the instructional knowledge. Mike Pompeo does and will uncover everything. They can play the charades all they want but Mike Pompeo will become the Secretary of State no matter what happens tomorrow in the committee vote. If he is voted down, Crying 😭 Chuck will have a decision. He can cause the need of 60 votes to have Pompeo confirmed.

    If he does that, Mitch McConnell will have to use the nuclear option. Mike Pompeo has been to North Korea to meet with Kim Jong-un on behalf of our President. Nothing leaked out about it. However, we can see from Kim’s actions that whatever was discussed is moving along as planned. That is a credit to our President and Mike Pompeo!

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  34. Question…What is the exact date from media, or other persons, that Russia involvement in the elections was mentioned?

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  35. scott467 says:

    “…is it a surprise to see the political leadership of the Democrat Party attempting to block Pompeo?”

    ________________________

    Why does it matter what the Demonrats do?

    Don’t the Republicans have a majority in both integrity-evacuated whited sepulchers of Congress?

    If Pompeo isn’t confirmed, it won’t be on the Demonrats, it will just expose the corrupt RINOs once again.

    And why does Pompeo need to be confirmed again? He has already passed their bogus political mud-wrestling Olympics when he was confirmed as head of the CIA

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  36. Richard Whitney says:

    EO 13825

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    • Hillard says:

      If I am reading that OE correctly, it would appear among other things to remove some defenses of potential criminal acts committed by members of the military under direct order by those of higher authority. I didn’t look far enough to see when the last revisions to the UCMJ were made to those items deleted by EO13825. Did I miss something?

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  37. TPW says:

    Oh I think once you wake some up to the truth they will care. But yes, there is that 30% who are the lefts base that are just plain- all- out- idiots. Back in the day they would have never survived past the age of 20.

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  38. NJF says:

    Inferring thread.

    Click on the tweet embedded in this one.

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  39. limelite001 says:

    This is how it happened:

    Valerie/Obama: Hillary called. Now that Trump is the nominee, we need dirt on him. There is NO WAY he can be president. We have used the last 8 years to destroy America and he cannot be allowed to undo all our work.
    Brenner/Clapper: Let’s use his pro-Russia stance to spy on him and destroy him before the election.

    A few months later…..

    Brenner/Clapper: President Obama, we need some cover for our spying on Trump, seeing as Mike Rogers has just stopped us using the NSA databank to spy on Trump. We’ve identified a few people in Trump’s campaign who we can go after via the FISC. We’ve also used our deep-state people in IC to produce a fake ‘dossier’ so we can go to FISC and use one of our judges to ‘justify’ the surveillance.
    Obama: Make sure this doesn’t come back to bite me.Keep the people in the know to a minimum. And for God’s sake, make the Hillary email disaster go away. And use her State Department ties to smear Trump.
    Comey: No problem boss.
    Lynch: I’ve got a meeting with Bill today. I’ll let him know the plan. Also ask him to get Hilary to start chirping about Trump and Russia ties so we can start building the narrative.

    Trump wins.

    Obama: Oh crap. Did we hide the trail of our surveillance?
    Brenner/Clapper: Not very well. I’ll let our Media arm know to keep reporting on the Trump-Russia angel. We’ll keep punching him, undermining him via the media and our #NeverTrump plants in the WH.
    Lynch: Mike Rogers went to see Trump today. He’s moving his entire transition team out of Trump Tower so we can’t spy on him there anymore. Let’s fire Rogers. He’s told Trump about our plot to bring him down.
    Valerie/Obama: If we fire Rogers he’ll sing like a canary. Ignore him. I’ll remove some Russian agents from US soil so that the media keeps on about the Russian threat. Brenner/Clapper – you need to work on Comey. Coach him to set Trump up so we can get a special counsel appointed to hamper Trump’s nonsense MAGA agenda. Get dodgy Mueller to be SC and cover our tracks. He also needs to divert attention away from Hillary’s mafia ways. She’s got dirt on all of us and she’s that batsh!t crazy to bring us all down.

    Nunes: Hold my beer!

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  40. Karl Kastner says:

    Watch Brennan’s hands fidget as he carefully considers how to distance himself from the anticipated fraud exposure.

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  41. inquisitorLost says:

    And this one comes out right on cue:
    https://apnews.com/b9657a2a41184b72b05bd1dae6667d4e/Russian-lawyer-questions-why-Mueller-hasn't-contacted-her
    Didn’t see that one coming, did you?.

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    • The Boss says:

      I’m not too keen on the Senate Intelligence Committee staffers meeting this bird in Berlin. No telling who else they may have met. As we know, this committee is largely cut off from anything to do with investigations given their proclivity to be sneaky (right Warner?), not to mention the Committee’s rather dubious composition and leadership.

      However, if Mueller sees no use for this wench, that is to his credit. She’s a can of worms. That I can tell you.

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    • Firefly says:

      Veselnitskaya alleged in her interview with the AP in downtown Moscow that if Mueller’s team never questions her, it would mean that it “is not working to discover the truth.”
      http://www.whig.com/article/20180422/AP/304229906?template=art_print#

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    • noswamp says:

      Glad we have SD to figure out what this means. Cause I haven’t got a clue as of now at least.

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      • This lawyer was one of the tools that the deep state used to try to penetrate the Trump campaign, and make it look like collusion.

        She and her entire crew were the handiwork of Fusion GPS and their co-plotters, along with the cooperation of Loretta Lynch and Preet Bharara, who fast-tracked her into the country to do so.

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  42. trapper says:

    “In May 2017, CIA Director John Brennan, facing the looming reality the underlying Russian ‘collusion evidence’ being non-existent, was trying to give the appearance that he briefed congress on larger Russian election interference issues. However , the trouble for Brennan is his own admission that these issues were the underlying principle for the FBI counter-intelligence investigation. Brennan specifically says he gave his intelligence product to the FBI.”

    And that is the question, isn’t it? What exactly did Brennan tell the Gang of Eight between August 11 and September 6, 2016?

    Try this: Begin with the premise that the Russians are NOT good actors. They do NOT have the interests of America at heart. Russia will do anything to hobble America so that Russia can pursue her own interests with the least amount of American interference. They don’t want a deal or a reset. They want a free hand.

    So of course they interfered in our election. They spread damaging stories about both candidates, and if they didn’t have any real dirt they just made stuff up. They sprinkled salt in EVERYONE’S pudding so that after the election regardless of who won there would be enough smear ammunition available to their opposition so as to hobble the newly elected president and prevent him or her from interfering with Russia’s ambitions, both economic and territorial. Russian interference was nondenominational.

    That is what Brennan briefed G8 on, so it necessarily included Trump stuff. But that is not the impression we are left with. So, yeah, the Obama crew only heard the Trump stuff, and used it as the basis to try to legitimize their already ongoing domestic spying on the Trump campaign. And now, the only part the Democrats want us to see is the Trump part, not the Hillary part. And the only part some Republicans want to see is the dirt in the emails, Carlos Danger, and pedo island.

    There are several stories that played out, and continue to play out, simultaneously. We should try not to mix them up even thought they overlap..

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  43. 4harrisonblog says:

    It seems everyone has had contacts with some Russians but President Trump. PDJT the most investigated President in the history of the United States and nothing found. Every president from now forward should have a SC appointed to look for crimes on his part for their entire term in office. After all it is only fair.

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  44. Derek Hagen says:

    Two comments, each from a different movie:
    1 – “Let’s take off and nuke ’em all from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”
    2 – “They’re like cockroaches, if you kill one you have to kill them all. Otherwise, what’s the point?”

    No need to get violent. Throwing them in the slammer would do nicely.

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  45. Joe says:

    There is nothing new under the sun.

    History teaches us that the human condition cannot tolerate the FBI/CIA during peace.

    Ever hear of the Praetorian Guard?

    I would 100% support a million man march that literally surrounds the FBI/CIA headquarters and forces their demise.

    If not, think the end of the Roman Republic. It will be our destiny.

    Both the FBI/CIA are much more of a threat to American freedom than Putin.

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  46. Margaret Berger says:

    H&HC, Hell’s bells as my father would say. I would be encouraged by a perp walk or two! How about some charges and an arrest. I would love to see some poo thrown at the fan. Way past time.

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  47. Firefly says:

    In the video John Brennan states he now works in the Kissinger Center for a Global Affairs. Wow, what a coincidence it is that Brennan works with Kissinger who was involved in the watergate scandal. Nixon took the bait and covered up/obstructed the burglary. PTrump didn’t take the bait to be tricked into obstructing.

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    • Nixon didn’t take “any bait”. From the very beginning Haldeman knew what leeway he had as far as infiltrating the Democrats in 1972 went. The problem is, they never thought anyone would get caught, and when Watergate happened Nixon from on down did everything they could to get it white-washed. Had Nixon come out from the outset and admitted what had happened, he would have completed his term. The cover-up was worse than the crime.

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  48. David R. Graham says:

    Sundance, as I read this, you side-step your own question: who produced the unofficial “information” Brennan — and no doubt The Fraud/Jarrett who occupied the White House — gave Comey essentially to do whatever to get rid of PJT? Am I right? Did you?

    Here are two guesses, really facets of just one: The Muslim Brotherhood and said Fraud/Jarrett occupying the White House, relying on the likes of Soros’ ubiquitous Media Matters, produced that unofficial “information.”

    I think this entire business is a narrative screen for hiding the fact and extent to which The Fraud and minions turned over the USG to the Moslem Brotherhood.

    And if MBS really is turning out Salafi Jihad (includes Moslem Brotherhood) from its homeland, the mulish mullahs of Iran, Salafi Jihad’s allies, have further and essentially unbearable financial obligations for their allies of convenience.

    Anyhow, the “man behind the curtain” in USA at this juncture of our history is the Moslem Brotherhood and about that fact becoming self-evident D.C. and other loci of the D-R UniParty seethe in well-deserved anxiety.

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    • AH_C says:

      Michelle Bachmann tried to warn us way back then in the run up to 2012, but was excoriated by none other than McVain leading the charge of the deep state.

      They made her look kooky over Gardasil. But as we’re finding out, even Big Pharma was co-opted by the Clintonistas.

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      • David R. Graham says:

        Even Tulsi Gabbard and another D (I forget whom) warned that USG was supporting ISIL in the ME. UniParty shut her down after she went to Syria to make the point — arguably “out of her lane” but bearing and true and important message nonetheless. She was referring to HRC/Power/Rice/The Fraud/Brennan/Stevens moving Gaddafi weapons to AQ and Moslem Brotherhood (both Salafi) “moderate Muslim allies” in Syria. Sundance has posted regarding McVain supporting that lunacy in situ, with pictures and names.

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  49. ablefox says:

    Is Trump going to ‘bypass’ all this horse manure? Maybe he does not even care a whit what happens to all the crooked scumbags. He may just leave them in his wake in the end. This is getting wild.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Our VSG President Trump seems to target powerful outcomes, empower leaders capable of delivering them in “unpredictable” ways, and facilitate with personal contributions (Public Tweets, Presidential Orders and Private Negotiations).

      Seems like he set the Deep State Takedown in motion a year ago, famously uses Tweets to reinforce the independence/objectivity of the Wheels of Justice, and has “Moved On” to deliver on other Massive Challenges!

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  50. Running Fast says:

    Posted today on Q anon

    “Apr 22 2018 13:58:19
    Q
    !xowAT4Z3VQ
    1145824
    Not ‘official’ product – 5 Eyes.
    Listen carefully.
    No evidence to support POTUS targeting.
    None.
    Do you understand the gravity of what’s unfolding?
    EVIL & CORRUPTION.
    She had to win at all costs.
    You know why.
    How do people support/vote 4 these people?
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5774707105001/?#sp=show-clips
    Q”

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