President Trump Tweets About FISA Abuse – AG Jeff Sessions Responds…

Boy howdy, it only takes a tweet from POTUS to get everyone fired up on the AG Sessions battle-front; including AG Sessions himself.  It seems, generally speaking, responses to the tweet vary in direct relationship to the disposition of the reviewer:

My personal view is somewhat different than most.  President Trump is highlighting a genuine frustration, not necessarily with Jeff Sessions per se’, but rather within the institution Jeff Sessions dutifully represents.  This is, after all, what happens when citizen government runs into the bureaucracy of the institutions.

The same issues surfaced in May of 2017 (when Jeff Sessions tendered his resignation), and it’s not as big an issue as people make out. In fact, it’s rather ordinary and expected.  POTUS Trump is a change-agent, a wrench in the machine. AG Sessions is a machine operator; retooling for a change in outcome, yet retaining the machine.

We are seeing nothing more than the typical frustration of a ‘results oriented president’ who, like many of us, has had enough of these seemingly endless investigations and wants the DOJ to get-on-with the indictments, arrests and prosecutions.

The frustrations are real; however, the punditry opinion of those frustrations is mostly ‘fake news’.

There’s a middle ground that seems to be obvious, from the perspective of having watched the entire Horowitz investigation very closely, and I doubt even President Trump -surrounded by the typical concentric circles that create political distance- even realizes it.

The DOJ lawyers, that is to say: ‘the prosecutors President Trump wants to see activated pronto’, are already in place… and they have been for some time.

Due to the sensitivity of politics, elections and recusals, none of which the disruptive change-agent-Trump cares about, there’s almost no communication between the White House and DOJ on these investigative matters.

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Inspector General Horowitz talks and coordinates primarily with AAG Rod Rosenstein… who relays information to AG Jeff Sessions…. who can’t necessarily brief the White House due to POTUS Trump being the actual victim of the criminality.   We’ve talked about this dynamic before.

POTUS Trump is head of the Executive, head of the law enforcement apparatus, and simultaneously the primary victim of the politicization of the apparatus, and likely criminal conduct, which IG Horowitz has been investigating for well over a year.

It’s a weird dynamic, and it’s not like the DOJ can brief the victim (president) on their success at gathering evidence against the criminals (DOJ/FBI small group).

Hence, the frustration surfaces and POTUS tweets.

The conflict is no big deal really.

This is citizen government (common sense) meeting/hating the political swamp.

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1,077 Responses to President Trump Tweets About FISA Abuse – AG Jeff Sessions Responds…

  1. ladypenquin says:

    Larry Schweikart has this to say. Still seems logical.

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    • ForGodandCountry says:

      Those tweets are meant for adults and conservatives, not children and liberal trolls.

      Liked by 5 people

      • ezpz2 says:

        Your holier than thou Orwellian shtick of calling anyone and everyone who holds an opinion different from yours is getting old.

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        • ezpz2 says:

          *correction…calling anyone/ everyone a troll. Left out the word troll.

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          • ForGodandCountry says:

            “anyone and everyone”…not true. go back and look. Only certain posters

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            • Oh, I forgot you’re the all knowing, always right “God&Country.” You use that handle and posts as if to imply we should not question what you say. I believe in God and my Country, but I do it with actions not words. As former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher once said: “Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren’t.”

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        • Lulu says:

          Yes it is pretty and managed to ruin much of this thread. The thread was more like an ugly Breitbart comment section and not CTH.

          A lot of personal attacks.

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          • Mark McQueen says:

            Funny you should mention Breitbart. I don’t hang out there near as much because the trolls moved in in large numbers and ruined the place. Hoping that doesn’t happen here…

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            • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

              It’s very tough right now for a lot of us who have literally lost many smart folks who are now banned. And I still read Breitbart but with less and less patience, and the analysis is nowhere near the Sundance level. All this family can do is share the few good sites with others and pray for our POTUS’s continued safety.

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        • RAC says:

          Totally agree, and the “holier than thou” phrase is exactly what I thought yesterday when reading through this persons comments. Attempts like that to bully and commandeer the thread make me suspicious of the motives, smacks of over compensation.

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          • ForGodandCountry says:

            Hope you are talking about the Sessions bashers, because all we’ve been doing it pointing to Sundance’s posts and pointing out how they are ignoring them altogether.

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    • Mutton says:

      What are the Sessions groupies going to say if PDJT fires Sessions?
      Perhaps something like, “oh the humiliation…it wasn’t 4D chess after all……”

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/today-feels-different-sources-say-potus-trump-fury-ag-sessions-may-lead-firing/

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      • Oldschool says:

        Felt different to me too. Sessions days may be numbered.

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        • Mutton says:

          Oh happy day…. then there’s Rosie to get rid of and we might actually get some prosecutions on the tons of available evidence.

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          • Matt Hay says:

            Why not just purge all of them, and strip the DOJ down to the frame? Keep on firing down the line until you get to the janitor if need be? My fear is that while Sessions wants to keep the machine, even retooling doesn’t fix the issue. Like the FBI, it seems every 10 years or so they have a colossal SNAFU, and every time “safeguards” which don’t work, are put into place. The Church Committee Hearings were not all that long ago. At what point does someone say, “We need to break it into a thousand pieces, and scatter them to the wind” and start over?

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            • ForGodandCountry says:

              A: Because, sadly, you can’t just fire a gov’t employee like the public sector can. It’s not that easy (and a big reason why gov’t is so bloated).

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              • Matt Hay says:

                Don’t “fire” the individual employees, make them “redundant” by eliminating the line item for funding their Department. That allows the avoidance of hearings and appeals at the individual level.

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                • garry dauron says:

                  Matt I think you are right. but Larry Schweikart is also perceptive. Maybe a second special prosecutor is needed. It is not clear to me why Sessions has been reticent to take that path. Larry again is probably more objective of the political realities of blowing everything apart. Good posts.

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            • Deplorable_Infidel says:

              “At what point does someone say, “We need to break it into a thousand pieces, and scatter them to the wind” and start over?”-

              You do not say it, or you wind up like JFK. You just do it. However, sometimes it has to be done with a ball swinging at the end of a crane, rather than a controlled demolition with explosives. For example, it is much easier to blow up the Dept. of Edukayshun, than the Federal Bureau of Incompetence (because of the legitimate on going investigations).

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            • lizzyp says:

              I’ve said before, the whole system only works as long as ‘We the People’ believe it works. Purging the entire DOJ and FBI could destroy what little faith the public has in ‘the system’ and lead to the law and order equivalent to the bank collapse and stock market sell crash that brought about the Great Depression. Chipping away at the rot, one ‘retirement’ or ‘reassignment’ at a time until what is left can be viewed as manageable AND the general public is able to look at the matter as something that was in the past and has been handled seems like a very smart course of action. Purging would cause a MASSIVE uprising on the Left as they shrieked about dictatorships and such. The damage must be shown to them in easily digestible bites, slowly and maybe even in such a way that it just seeps into their collective consciousness. Things just suddenly are fact. For instance, did you ever think Obama Administration FISA abuses would be openly discussed? Not until yesterday.

              Consider- something like 8 of the top DOJ/ FBI officials are no longer in the position they held 2 years ago. They aren’t the ones making decisions anymore and it doesn’t look like a Saturday Night Massacre.

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      • Lulu says:

        I think some may get off the Trump train if that happens.

        It’s kind of weird.

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        • Deb says:

          The only weird thing is why the people who hate Sessions spend all day bringing it up and then insulting the people who don’t.

          I’m on the fence about Sessions, but some people are taking this thing way too personally.

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          • formerdem says:

            I think Sundance has set out the correct line and we should reinforce it. The point is, Trump does NOT know much more than we do, if anything, about what Sessions is doing, and so he is responding to surface stuff. Almost anybody is likely to have better information than Trump, since no one can tell Trump what DoJ is doing without becoming a witness in a collusion investigation. Sundance, who has good sources, is trying to explain all this. We should HELP.

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          • Mutton says:

            Try and understand that UniParty sleeper Sessions has obstructed PDJT’s legal and political defences from day 1 by omission and commission . Have you no understanding of the prosecutions on existing evidence (IG report not needed) that should be running as we speak but aren’t because Sessions and friend Rosie won’t indict their elite class political buddies and associates?

            Why do you think PDJT just called Sessions “Disgraceful”?
            Why?

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        • starfcker says:

          Lulu, if somebody jumps off the Trump train because he fires a lacky that didn’t do his job, does it matter? I voted for Trump. I didn’t vote for Sessions. It’s the same way I felt when he fired Steve Bannon. This isn’t about politics. This isn’t about egos. There’s a job to do. I see no evidence that this job is getting done. Could I be wrong? Sure. I hope I am. But there are people that know a lot more than me that seem to share the same views I do. Devin Nunes would be a good example. President Trump didn’t say he was disappointed in Jeff Session’s performance. He said it was disgraceful. That doesn’t sound like any kind of chess game to me. That pretty much sounds like a last warning, either start doing your job, or I’ll find somebody who will

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      • boogywstew says:

        If President Trump fires Jeff Sessions than it will be too bad, too sad. The President will fire him when he no longer wants him and I’m fine with that. I trust the President more than you do, obviously.

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      • AH_C says:

        Lessee. The tweet could be a signal to wield the Hammer, after all tomorrow is 1st of March.

        Also significant today, is Trump’s meetings with the crown prince of both Saudia Arabia and UAE appears to be kicking off a new phase of the Gulf Cooperation initiative. Prior to meeting Trump the crown prince of SA fired a bunch of military leaders.

        March is definitely roaring in like a lion.

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      • RAC says:

        That’s the beauty of not having an edit function 😉

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    • Willie Elbel says:

      Who says indictments without conviction are meaningless?
      Not so. The Donks in the DOJ crank out indictments by the dozen to influence the electorate. Convictions are secondary such as with Walsh and GHW Bush.
      Sessions failing to crank out any indictments until after the election proves they really are the Stupid party.
      Besides, i think sending non violent criminals to jail for more than a month is an expensive waste of taxpayer dollars. Who cares about convictions? sounds so medieval.
      Crank out those indictments soon and match the Donks in the DOJ.

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      • boogywstew says:

        So, Bernie Madoff getting a month would have been OK? You must be the Darling of Wall Street.

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        • Willie Elbel says:

          As a matter of fact i do agree. Confiscate anything he has left and give him a bus ticket to LA. If he turns violent, only then does he go back to jail.
          If that does not work, then brand his forehead with a big A

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          • anthony earl says:

            so if bill,hillary, and chelsea were taken to the cleaners and left penniless and she served no jail time or a just a little, thats ok?
            a min of 10 years in jail is what i would hope for them and all others involved with them.

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      • G. Combs says:

        “…Sessions failing to crank out any indictments until after the election proves they really are the Stupid party….”

        failing to crank out any indictments⁉️

        In the month of November alone over FOUR THOUSAND SEALED INDICTMENTS are cranked out and in the next THREE MONTHS just under TEN THOUSAND MORE SEALED INDICTMENTS are made. Typically there are 1000 to 1100 per YEAR!

        Nov 26, 2017 — From October 30 through November 22, 2017, there are 4,289 sealed indictments filed in all 94 federal District Court Districts in the United States. — link
        ( ~1100 is the national average.)

        A January 1 2018 count from the autists on the chans with PACER accounts is claiming there are now around 9,400 sealed indictments in all federal court districts combined filed since October 2017.
        The Epoch Times Justice Department May Have Something Big in the Works: Over 9,000 Sealed Indictments

        And by January 28, 2018 there were 13,605 sealed indictments. link “..That’s quite a lot along the border and DC area….”

        There are major cases ongoing and UraniumOne indictments being unsealed. link

        Larry Schweikart has Posts that there are probably FIVE investigations on plus the sex fund scandal:
        1. AG Sessions announced that he was reopening the Hilderbeast e-mail investigation.

        2. 1/12/2018 the DOJ unsealed a Uranium One indictment. Also the DOJ stated AG Sessions is NOT recused from Uranium One.

        3. Sessions announced he was opening an investigation of Hezbollah/Iran and that is really bad news for Obummer. SEE Politico — The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook

        4 – Mulehead–The fact is, except for two minor “process” indictments, he hasn’t done anything even remotely pointing toward Trump. But he HAS gone after a Podesta…
        note that the “process” indictment and Flynn’s plea deal, are both so incredibly tainted the plea & charges will probably be thrown out. And if Muley was involved in Uranium One he has his OWN TAIL in a trap.
        5 – the Awans are closely tied to the emails, Hezbollah, and possibly even the U1 deal. Q-Anon suggests MS13 has ties to Pakistani ISI (Inter Intelligence Service, the Pakistani CIA) and there are ties between the Awans and MS13. It also stands to reason that the Awans were Pakistani ISI agents.

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        • Willie Elbel says:

          The key in your lengthy list is “sealed indictments” meaning they are ashamed of the content and hence meaningless. Mueller’s indictments are not sealed’

          The goal is to duplicate Mueller’s strategy of affecting the electorate with open indictments not sending some one to jail or preventing convictions because of public knowledge of the indictments

          And you mention the Awans who were inexplicably allowed to leave the country in many cases.

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          • Phil Garber says:

            The goal is not to match Mueller’s strategy, it is to trump it. If you open indictments prematurely, the two sets merely cancel each other out and the other side is warned.

            Far better to wait until you have enough cooperating witnesses and testimony to bring in substantive indictments (not just process ones) as well as a second wave of indictments reaching to the next level and then open them all at once.

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        • I keep hearing these numbers;13,000 sealed indictments, 4,000 sealed indictments! Everybody gets all excited and think these apply to draining the D.C. swamp. Seriously? Some of those are for example, illegally importing Elephant tusks from Africa. Geez, smh

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        • lizzyp says:

          I remembered another ‘matter’ that the DOJ said they were going to look into earlier and now I’ve forgotten again. For some reason it popped into my head and I realized they’d really snuck it in. Maybe Planned Parenthood?

          There are also 27 leake investigations and the FISA abuse investigation.

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      • ladypenquin says:

        Indictments without meat get dismissed on the first day in court. Indictments too soon and now well laid out, backed up six ways to Sunday, get President Trump impeached for using his office to go after “political enemies” – that’s how the MSM would portray and the Swamp would sell it.

        I’m desperate for something to happen too. We all are. But we can only play the hand we’ve been dealt. The breadcrumbs have been dropping since last December, compliments of the OIG himself. Someone earlier decried that his report was already past due – no, it isn’t. The full report was always down for mid-March.

        I don’t have any answers, just the same concerns everyone has, but President Trump’s tweet did refocus the news’ cycle again, having had the Parkland shooting/guns take it out of the mainstream. We have Great Expectations of President Trump, he will do what he can do, and he has chosen worthy people to aid him in his quest to right the country. This didn’t happen in a day, a month or year. It’s been decades in the making. Right now we’re in a short window for getting some of the more egregious issues addressed.

        It’s helpful to remind ourselves, Thank God (or whatever spiritual connection one has) that Donald Trump won against all odds, and Hillary Clinton is not president.

        (Sorry, probably wasted my effort on a dead thread by now, but it seemed worth saying.)

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        • farrier105 says:

          An indictment is probable cause. Once the Grand Jury has ruled that an investigation should proceed, the warrants are issued for arrest, or search, or both. An indictment is permission to proceed. What gets tossed by a criminal court is not the indictment, but whatever evidence is submitted at trial in the investigation that follows the indictment. So, no, you do not necessarily have all the evidence you need to prevail in court once you get an indictment. The indictment IS the probable cause to BEGIN to amass that evidence and proceed to regular criminal court, which is PUBLIC court, not secret proceeding.

          So, out of all the sealed indictments that have been mentioned, ONE was about Uranium One. Well, that’s something, but we still don’t know what kind of cases the thousands of others represent. That is why they are SEALED. They could be about anything.

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          • Willie Elbel says:

            Setting an indictment as sealed is like classifying government documents to cover up failure and incompetence.
            DOJ probably have an application that generates indictments by the thousand to justify another promotion.

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          • ladypenquin says:

            Sorry. I used terms speaking to the general situation. The point was simply that for a case to go to trial, the prosecutor had to have adequate evidence – confidence – that they had a strong case. Right about not needing all the evidence of course, but was simply trying to make a general point, Should have said, “have all ducks in a row.” 🙂

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            • farrier105 says:

              What’s important is to understand how the DOJ/FBI operate. The FBI does not like to do what Comey did with Hillary which was make the decision to not prosecute. They would rather a USA or AUSA make that decision and issue a Letter of Declination. They prefer working through Grand Juries and getting indictments that grease the wheels for warrants, etc. When they step out of that profile, something isn’t right.

              Indictments can be had with hearsay along with other evidence that brings about an indictment. Indictments ARE the probable cause, which is the main reason FBI loves to work through Grand Juries. You get the indictment, you are on your way.

              You make your bones with “stats.” Your indictments, arrests, search warrants, convictions, informations (which are outside the Grand Jury and require Arraignments) all add up to your next promotion and that gold star from a certified Deep State alcolyte.

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          • Willie Elbel says:

            “you do not necessarily have all the evidence you need to prevail in court”

            Yeah, just like they did with Bundy withholding exculpatory evidence for their enemies like Bundy and hiding condemning evidence for their political cronies Hillary and Comey

            They have the morals of a rattlesnake.

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    • davidb says:

      I have a problem with Horowitz having to directly report to Rosenstein, who has criminal history with Comey, Mccabe and Mueller.

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    • hippielouie says:

      good read imo-

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  2. Fred Henry Myers says:

    When lawyers protect elite criminals they talk process, when lawyers protect the constitution they talk prosecution, and none of the prosecutorial discussion is illegal, or unconstitutional. Not about the criminal, the investigation, or any discussion with the victim. The news is constantly full of the stories of all three. When lawyers mention process, they are about to screw you royally.

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  3. Victoria says:

    For a slightly different perspective see Don Surber: How Trump got the media to talk about Obama’s abuse of FISA.

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    • lizzyp says:

      I’ve been looking at it this way too- in order for any of this to take hold in the consciousness of the Country as a whole, it will have to be introduced bit by bit, fact by fact so that the underlying pieces become established. Judge Collyers’ Memorandum of Opinion from last year, for example. Nunes’ memo highlighting that the warrant was not requested under Title 7 was never challenged, so it becomes a fact in evidence without having to work to overcome any confirmation bias of cognitive dissonance.

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      • Oldschool says:

        All the public needs to see is the charge, prosecution and conviction. They won’t give a darn about the details and if they do, it is all there for them to read. This theory about the need to spoon feed the people a digestible nugget at a time so they can digest it in small bites is insanity.

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        • dallasdan says:

          I respectfully suggest that you are mistaken if you believe there will be many meaningful convictions. The practice of defensive jury selection will surely succeed in placing one or more leftists on every jury to successfully scuttle many guilty verdicts. A significant number of “not guilty” results will both diminish the credibility of the crimes and evidence in the eyes of the general public and provide support to the opposition.

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          • Lopeover says:

            Yes. Senator Menendez trial was a joke. Democrat-Communist Judge & on the jury. Ended in a mistrial.

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          • Phil Garber says:

            Most convictions at least at the lower level will be by plea with cooperating witnesses. (Likely has already occurred in some cases.) And then you leverage their testimony upward.

            The highest level indictees may go to trial, but ideally by then there would be a critical mass of testimony and evidence which will be hard to overcome with any jury. And if even one of the higher levels rolls over (Yates, Rice or Powers) then you have a home run.

            Bear in mind that none of this will be resolved legally before the midterms; but in terms of political effect you ideally have a big (but not final) reveal by May and then a drip, drip, drip through November.

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        • farrier105 says:

          The liberal media don’t feed the sheep in small bites. They shriek with their hair on fire and say nothing when the story vanishes days later like ether.

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  4. freddy says:

    Mueller assembles a pack of hyenas. The dirtiest most biased political hacks on earth. He has no mandate and is using the dirtiest tactics known and Trump must fear sending the AG after provable crimes currently exposed….Whom should he fear…Shifty or the RINOS.. Why must we live in fear. Trump goes down if he does not fight all this so nothing to lose makes for a dangerous man that others should fear.. Trump is the verb not the object……..

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  5. katshomenow says:

    The wheels of Justice turn exceedingly slow but grind exceedingly well. (or something like that)!

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    • Keebler AC says:

      T45 lost Hope Hicks today. It’s going on too long and the hyenas have been allowed to feast for too long. To suggest that T45’s strategy of not depending on one single node, that of an Obama OIG, for justice, is not honorable is ludicrous. Had he not spouted the political virtue signalling drivel at a time when Trump’s admin is losing a valued staff informs me of what T45 is up against. Maga is on the line. Sorry but I’ve had it with people in his admin and GOP constantly disrespecting and not working with him. I will call it if I see it, comments be damned!

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      • Oldschool says:

        Exactly keebler. Sessions statement was out of line and imo revealing. He should have snapped to attention and gone to work after POTUS gave him orders, not issue a rebuttal. But again, sessions was the guy who decided to recuse without giving POTUS the respect of meeting with him first. Snake

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        • Lulu says:

          Sessions acts like someone who doesn’t think he answers to the President so who does he work for?

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        • boogywstew says:

          Sessions reply was polite, succinct and affirmative like a good soldier to a commanding officer.

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          • Willie Elbel says:

            Why can’t Sessions be more like Holder in following orders from his POTUS?
            There is not a single instance of Holder saying anything like what Sessions says all the time. Holder even accepted a contempt citation without changing his allegiance to Obama’s agenda.
            Maybe it’s time to switch sides to the strong horse and abandon the wussies.

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        • Keebler AC says:

          No matter how illustrious his career as a Senator, at the end of the day he is first and foremost in the Trump administration holding the same political tendencies as say a Priebus. There can be no denying this vein of truth. How does one consult several other politocrats about recusing and not once discuss this crucial matter with the number one key individual, the President? As a group, politicians are beholden to themselves, and while it can be argued that AG is independent, brainwashed into thinking so by Democrats and the media, it is still highly unfortunate that this lack of communication continues to this day where the President is obviously being blocked out of investigations into the FBI wrongdoing. Hillary, Obama and Holder along with the Democrats are literally laughing at the clown show Trump is being dragged through. Mueller keeps humming along.

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  6. Willie Elbel says:

    Who says indictments without conviction are meaningless?
    Not so. The Donks in the DOJ crank out indictments by the dozen to influence the electorate. Convictions are secondary such as with Walsh and GHW Bush.
    Sessions failing to crank out any indictments until after the election proves they really are the Stupid party.

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    • Oldschool says:

      Absolutely agree willie. Also take issue with larry’s statement that if he went after cankles trump would have been impeached. Is that an impeachable offense?

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      • Willie Elbel says:

        It is Sessions who is obstructing justice by saying things like “it will be done” so how can firing Sessions be called obstruction of justice if Sessions instead focuses on more Civil forfeiture ( I think forfeiture before conviction is government stealing) and Colorado marijuana laws- absolutely lowest on my priority list. I am beginning to regard Sessions the way i regard Hillary.

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      • Willie Elbel says:

        Who worries about impeachment? With Trump it would be the greatest entertainment. Then he could really lambaste Sessions with relish.
        If the Donks take the House, then Trump should fire Sessions if he has not already done so by then.
        Dealing with the lying Donks in the House would be even more misery than it is now so that impeachment would be welcome reality TV.

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      • ladypenquin says:

        Yes, it’s an easy home run for the Democrats. If the president had gone after Hillary out of the gate, they would have accused him of using/abusing his office to go after his political enemies. That becomes an impeachable offense in the Swamp. Impeachment can be done simply for not liking him, and the charges are just a charade. “High crimes and misdemeanors” not being clearly defined. Now getting the votes for the win is something else. Andrew Jackson missed being “impeached” by one vote. But the damage was done. So, too, would be the case for this president.

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        • Willie Elbel says:

          Do you mean A Jackson missed impeachment by one vote in the House? Sounds like the way they recently did business with repealing Obamacare: find out which rep can take the heat of voting against impeachment. or repeal of ACA

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    • boogywstew says:

      What elections are you talking about?

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  7. NoJuan Importante says:

    Hmmm, Crown Prince is visiting next month…Is the Crown Prince bringing important intel from the alternate monitoring source?? Velly intellesting.. .https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-28/saudi-crown-prince-mohammad-bin-salman-will-visit-washington-next-month

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  8. ilovevictoriasbows says:

    What happens when/if Democrats take over in November? Schiff takes over. Media camps outside P̶̷r̶̷i̶̷e̶̷s̶̷t̶̷a̶̷p̶̷, O̶̷h̶̷r̶̷’̶̷s̶̷, S̶̷t̶̷r̶̷z̶̷o̶̷k̶̷, B̶̷a̶̷k̶̷e̶̷r̶̷, P̶̷a̶̷g̶̷e̶̷ Nunez, Goodlatte, Sessions house 24/7. Better make a move, soon.

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  9. Lulu says:

    They have been dirty a lot longer than that. Hoover was horrible and don’t forget Ruby Ridge.

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  10. Is it me or has this particular thread brought out cannibalism tendencies in the commentators? It is kind of discouraging to see tree huggers disparaging each other. Disagreeing is one thing, lively debate is another but going after a fellow Treeper’s throat is crossing the line.

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    • ezpz2 says:

      Agee, H&HC. See my comment above. Or below maybe.

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      • Oldschool says:

        Saw your comment and agreed with it ez. There are a few here that take it way beyond respectful and accepting differences of opinion. The sessions topic is always hot because of the power of that position and the secrecy with which they hide behind. It affects us all, especially POTUS.

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    • Jedi9 says:

      That is what you get when a feeding frenzy has been enacted with such sensational speculation all in one tweet meant to stir the hornets nest! Ambiguity is mans greatest distraction of controlling time. Just as this thread blows up with hundreds of responses just think of the element of time it takes to read through them all! By then the target has moved to a different location and those venting will forget what it was even about. Another day in Washington is all she said. Past tense!

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      • Oldschool says:

        On most topics i would agree jedi, but not sessions. It has been a constant heated argument here for months, albeit with ebbs and flows, but this won’t go away until something drastically changes.

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        • Jedi9 says:

          Anything subject related regarding Sessions and following speculation of his motives is akin to a bunch of rabid animals shredding at a carcass for more meat. Am I sceptical? Sure! I am staying away from such judgement though regardless of what others may think. It is purely speculative at this point and we need to wait for empirical evidence with reason and logic to define what is really the truth. Staying above the noise is a healthier option at this point. Live your life but remember to be respectful to others, to do so invites the same returns unto you!

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    • Mark McQueen says:

      I’m new here but it’s not hard to pick out the antagonists.

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    • Benson II says:

      It’s called open discussion of issues from different view points and if anyone should be doing it, it’s the people who want president Trump to succeed. This is not a leftist college venue where every comment must be in direct alignment with a certain view. If someone only uses personal attacks they should be called on it but if they are expressing a different viewpoint that’s what discourse is about.

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  11. Rjones says:

    We’ve been patient long enough. Congress investigated the FISA matter and found crimes were committed. It’s time to prosecute. DOJ lawyers need to squeeze the same way Mueller is and then we won’t need to worry about jury verdicts. It’s our government. We elected Trump. It’s time to remove Sessions and get on with it. If the Dems want to try impeachment, let them proceed. We need to put up a fight and live or die on the outcome. The current approach of lumbering along at snails pace is BS.

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  12. Paul Beach says:

    I came here expecting Sundance to opine that Trump knows that the IG and Sessions are about to lay down the hammer, and that this was all staged to provide further separation between Trump and IG/Sessions for when the Big Ugly hits the fan. A bit disappointed to read otherwise.

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  13. RedBallExpress says:

    If President Trump tweeted “Sessions is a crook and has to go and he is my biggest mistake ever” many would say Trump meant the opposite.

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  14. Bigdog35 says:

    18 U.S. Code § 2385 – Advocating overthrow of Government

    Has anyone considered how the numerous current and former government officials responses, ( that are due this Friday to the HPSCI), relate to section 2385- USC18?

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  15. JohnBadger says:

    Sessions insists he is all about “honor and integrity”. Well Jeff when the President of the United States (your boss in case you haven’t figured that out yet) repeatedly suggests he is disappointed in you or worse publicly calls you “DISGRACEFUL” the honorable thing to do is RESIGN. Please do so NOW!

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  16. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    Great pic of Rosey and Sessions up on GP right now. If Rosey isn’t a good guy we are very very F’d. The pic shows them hugging a small intimate table for dinner and drinks. Either they are super close or someone is about to walk out of the bathroom like in the Godfather scene. No way Sessions is saving the Republic and Rosey is plotting a coup at same time they are out to dinner when a MOAB tweet was dropped hours earlier.

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  17. tunis says:

    I can’t speak for others, but as a Trump voter I am really pissed at the double standards.

    Compare the alacrity with which Rosenstein appointed Mueller as a special counsel to target Trump as soon as Comey was fired. Comey said he leaked through his professor buddy a memo he wrote claiming Trump asked him to go soft on Flynn.Something as flimsy as Comey’s memo gets a special counsel.

    OTOH, here we have so much evidence that Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Evelyn Farkas, Susan Rice, Samantha Power, and others weaponized the FBI, DOJ, CIA, DNI to derail Trump’s campaign and when so many of us voted for him, the attempted a COUP. And what happens here supposedly an IG investigation who has no prosecutorial authority. If ever there is a need for a special counsel it is to investigate the attempted coup on a legitimately elected POTUS.

    The fact that neither Sessions nor Rosenstein has appointed a special counsel or convened a grand jury yet, shows their goal is to block, obfuscate and run the clock so all the coup plotters can skate while Mueller attempts to frame Trump. The coup is continuing!!

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    • ladypenquin says:

      We don’t know that they haven’t convened a grand jury. Those are not publicized, and there are likely several going on at any one time across the nation.

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  18. fobdangerclose says:

    DOJ is a scum scrum squirming !

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  19. fobdangerclose says:

    How about all the conservative blogs put out a call for a huge $ reward for evidence on the crimes and put the money where the leak is to Wikileaks and the group makes it where Wikileaks hands the reward over.!

    The evidence is released by all the blogs at the same time as Wikileaks does the document dump!

    We need to be inivative and take action!

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  20. wwguy says:

    As a lurker here for about a month or so, there are 2 observations I find “interesting”:
    1. A lot of new names have recently begun to post and the quality seems to have gone down and the despair level seems up. Is there a way to show post count or the date a poster signed up on this board to help one “quantify” a poster? It took me a month to get the hang of SD’s strategy.
    2. I have been watching cnn and msnbc to see what they are reporting about the FISA stuff and it was crickets until the POTUS tweeted about the AG. This seems to be a good thing in that they are picking on DT for picking on Sessions.

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    • Bree says:

      I agree on the new names and concerned people all the time. Still see some great folks holding it down.

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    • Summer says:

      Your name is new to me. Should I be worried? I propose leaving moderation to the moderators. They are doing a pretty good job.

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      • Well said Summer. Sundance and team allow dissenting opinions because it invites more comments, some of which credible information is gleaned. It’s almost as if some of these know-it-all posters are some kind of cult.

        “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson

        “I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered at the White House – with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson DINED ALONE.” – John F. Kennedy

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  21. Giant Ground Sloth says:

    I know President Trump likes to confuse his enemies, but often in the process he ends up confusing many of his supporters as well. Maybe he genuinely despises Sessions; maybe he doesn’t and this is all part of a bigger plan. I don’t think any of us really know.

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  22. LM says:

    I was thrilled when Present Trump nominated Jeff Sessions as his AG.

    I was not thrilled when Sessions recused himself, when Mueller was appointed to hound all things Trump, and when no one was appointed to hound all things Clinton (and Obama). I am eagerly aeaiting the IG report and the ensuing, earth shaking, prosecutions.

    What is going on behind the scenes, I don’t know. However, the “optics” as of right now are legitimizing the fraudulent Russian theme and we are entering the 2018 election cycle.

    For the record, I think Sessions is a good, honorable man. However, I am not sure that his priority is not his own honor. (by which I mean he is focused on assuring all of his old swamp acquaintances that he is devoted to the law and unbiased in his comittment to it) rather than the good of the country and, in consideration of that, the absolute necessity of safeguarding the presidency of Donald J. Trump.

    I am not an attorney. The duplicity of the law, the gamemanship of what passes as justice in our country wherein the wealthy and priviliged are granted reprieves for which the less fortunate would be jailed…this stuff is disgusting to me and I would feel dirtied by practicing it.

    So while I decoutly would like to see the rule of law practiced, I would even more like to see true justice occur as a result of that.

    The clean up of our justice system should apply to much more than sending Hillary and Obama to jail—but that is a good start.

    Time will tell if Jeff Sessions is man enough, and truly honorable enough, to do this.

    In the meantime, let us not devour one another—or even him—but come together for the greater good of the MAGA agenda. The elections are almost here. We need each one of us on board the Trump train and working together.

    I have said before and it is worth repeating…focus on this like your lives and those of your loved ones depend on this, because IMO, they do.

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    • LM says:

      Apologies for typos.

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    • Sessions’ early recusal did one important thing; brought Mueller and Rosey up from the depths to expose themselves as frauds, liars and traitors. Now, they will be right out in the open when U1 catches up to them. Whether or not he did this on purpose, who knows? Could be 600kD chess move….

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      • boogywstew says:

        Word is that Dolly Parton knows some Chest 44DD moves so that it will make a newborn baby cry.

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      • LM says:

        https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-special-counsel-robert-mueller-twitter/2018/02/28/id/846071/

        Thank uou. That is an encouraging thought.

        Reading the above article helped prompt my post.

        I still check Newsmax because it is an easier-to-take window on the MSM than reading or watching it first hand and I want to be fully informed—even as to the plots of the enemy.

        The Special Counsel seems like a really unnecessary thorn in the side of the President, and it also seems unjust that Hillary and Obama are, to date, likewise untouched.

        I don’t play, or understand, chess.
        My heart is not in it.

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        • Good read. Thank you for passing that on.

          Notice how they are, again, calling this possible ‘obstruction of justice’? Funny how they keep pushing that exact wording, a repetitive drum-beat of trigger words or phrases. They do this in hope that most low-mid info voters actually believe it is obstruction.

          For this trick to work, they had to start early on. Education system. Eventually all will be forced to learn how our nations laws are written and why they are written in certain ways. Most left-leaning adults will have to read the Constitution and Bill of Rights for the first time to understand that all along, there was no such thing as obstruction of justice.
          Theres no there there.

          Not knocking Newsmax, I read them at least once a week. My point being… Of course Mueller will ‘look into’ ‘possible obstruction of justice’ thats par for the course for Deepstate operatives. They all synchronize with the narrative like a rowing team. A spectacle to behold.

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          • LM says:

            Before Trump, for most of the pasr 40 years, we had mostly left leaning adults reading and interpreting the law…and that was our justice.

            God help us if he does not prevail.

            And thank you for your provacative and encouraging thoughts. I agree with you that there is no there there and no obstruction.
            ❤️

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  23. I am with Sundance on this. Our AG is competent, God fearing, patient and methodical. If the Deepstate is holding something over him, he would rather shine sunlight upon the truth than sit in the dark. Worry not about him, but for his family. Pray for their safety.

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    • Mutton says:

      “God fearing, patient and methodical”….. speechless here.
      He could instruct the DoJ to indict and prosecute elite FBI and DoJ today on the available evidence, the IG report is not required.
      Strangely, Sessions does, by coincidence, just what the UniParty would prefer.
      It’s just coincidence don’t you worry your empty head.

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      • boogywstew says:

        Someone needs a hug! Come on … give us a hug!

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        • Mutton says:

          I feel your pain…….. and embarrassment.
          Your meme that Sessions is a goodie guy who supports President Trump through thick and thin is now evidence free.

          “DISGRACEFUL”
          Getting it yet? I fear not………

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      • farrier105 says:

        According to Chris Farrell of Judicial Watch, the DOJ IG has not been helpful in his investigation of FISA/NSA abuses in El Paso.

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  24. fobdangerclose says:

    Grump

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  25. jeans2nd says:

    All this is noise. NOISE.
    No one – NO ONE – is paying attention to the sure-fire way to prosecutions.

    What the IG is investigating is deviation and disregard for DOJ standards and procedures.
    Both the IG and the SC are required by law to report law violations to the AG.
    The Attorney General prosecutes.

    Leaking is a crime, especially leaks from SIGINT and grand jury investigations.
    Today we hear of four SIGINT leaks from world leaders, regarding discussions involving Jared Kushner.
    Today we hear of more leaks coming from the Mueller investigation, possibly involving the Mueller grand jury.

    The IG started investigating Jan 2017.
    —>>>But, “it would not be the IG carrying out the counterintelligence operation to identify leakers. ” https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/09/the-new-fbi-agency-everyone-forgot-did-adam-schiff-just-get-caught-in-an-elaborate-counterintelligence-sting/

    The IG found leaks, but investigation and prosecution of leaks are the provence of the Attorney General.

    AG Jeff hinted at leak investigations last May, as AG Jeff said 25 May 2017 “we will make every effort to put an end to it. We have already initiated appropriate steps to address these rampant leaks that undermine our national security.” https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-leaks-following-manchester-terror-attack

    The FBI/DOJ leak task force was announced July-Aug 2017, and leaked to CBS News 26 Jul 2017, prior to the announcement. How appropo.
    “The Department of Justice will announce an investigation into government leaks over the next week, an official familiar with the matter told CBS News’ Paula Reid.
    The investigations have “been in the works for some time,” according to the official. ” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/department-of-justice-to-announce-leaks-investigation/

    We have all these Congressional investigations. But Congress cannot prosecute.
    The IG has been investigating for over a year. The IG cannot prosecute.
    Mueller has been at this for nearly a year. There is no collusion, nor conspiracy, nor obstruction. Mueller has nothing. Nor will he. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

    So what do we have, that is prosecutable?
    What is the one thing that no one is discussing? What is the one item Devin Nunes demanded from the DOJ, that was never given to Devin Nunes? Every Congressional committee is investigating the same three things, not including the “others” category, only two of which are being investigated.

    Three things every Congressional committe is investigating –
    -Russian meddling in the 2016 election
    – Ties between Trump associates and Russian officials
    —>>> Who is leaking classified information
    – Other inquiries
    http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-russia-investigation-explainer/

    The New FBI Agency Everyone Forgot
    “a counterintelligence sting operation has been going on within the IC community.”
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/09/the-new-fbi-agency-everyone-forgot-did-adam-schiff-just-get-caught-in-an-elaborate-counterintelligence-sting/
    Counterintelligence. Peter Strzok. Lisa Page.

    “two FBI agents were closely monitoring leaks in the news media” http://thehill.com/homenews/house/368003-fbi-agents-text-messages-spur-congressional-probe-into-possible-news-leaks
    Those two agents are current chair-holder-downers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. Caught.

    “According to the prior letter, Nunes indicates the FBI was currently collecting information on Weissmann; which incidentally informs us that Weissmann is already under FBI investigation.”
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/09/report-chairman-devin-nunes-has-received-fbi-and-doj-fisa-application-and-steele-dossier-documents/
    That would be Mueller lackey, Andrew Weismann, who is currently under FBI investigation.

    “I understand that your office is researching records related to the details of an April 2017 meeting between DOJ Attorney Andrew Weissman (now the senior attorney for Special Counsel Robert Mueller) and the media, which will also be provided to this Committee by close of business on Thursday, January 11, 2018,” Chairman Devin Nunes wrote
    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/368003-fbi-agents-text-messages-spur-congressional-probe-into-possible-news-leaks

    Devin Nunes never received those details about Weismann, and nary a word has been heard from Devin Nunes after speaking with Rod Rosenstein and Christopher Wray in January. Why?

    Sometimes we miss what is directly in front of our face.
    Perhaps this is to what President Trump is attempting to call our attention.
    AG Jeff will never even hint at anything that deviates from DOJ standards and practices.
    The question is, what is AG Jeff actually prosecuting?

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    • r2 says:

      that is THE question! i don’t think gump intends to prosecute anybody….

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    • Willie Elbel says:

      Any of the familiar names like Comey or Hillary , if indicted, the best we can expect is a Menendez style result so why waste time baying for indictments?

      Just accept that all we are going to get is Hillary not in the WH and Lordy-Lordy Comey out of office.

      Capitulate to Sessions foot dragging because Trump cannot fire him

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  26. The Jimmy Jackz says:

    It’s hard for us NYers. We want everything done yesterday.

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  27. It’s a toss-up between Jeff Sessions and Sheriff Israel. I wouldn’t count on either having my back.

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  28. Monadnock says:

    Just an observation –

    Sitting in the lobby / breakfast area this morning at an Portland, Oregon Hampton Inn – CNN droning onward in the background. Everybody – and I mean EVERYBODY – seemed to be choosing to sit as far from that flat screen as possible. People eating, reading, chatting – nobody, and I mean NOBODY, was watching the Fake News.

    Be strong and courageous – PDJT is in office because he’s God’s man for the job that needs doing (if your belief in God has a biblical basis). And that job isn’t done yet.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      I heard recently that CNN actually pays places like airports to tune their televisions to the CiaNN.

      1Timothy 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
      2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
      3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
      4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
      5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
      6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

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  29. fobdangerclose says:

    Lost

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  30. MikeN says:

    Perhaps you have this backwards. Maybe Trump knows what Horowitz and Sessions are doing, and sent out the tweet to protect Horowitz now that more people know he is looking into things. With his tweet, Horowitz looks useless for Trump and not a danger for liberals.

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    • farrier105 says:

      Not a danger to liberals until they come in here and find out that, not only is Horowitz a BIG PROBLEM to them, but so are covert “white hats” Mueller and Rosenstein, along with bulldog prosecutor Sessions, who puts Weissman to shame.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “With his tweet, Horowitz looks useless for Trump and not a danger for liberals” –

      Think about it. That is a most excellent strategy to dissuade your average low-info liberal from caring, they will carry on like it is “business as usual” and everything entering the swamp rots (aka – the swamp covers for and takes care of it’s own).

      When the ax falls and the hammer drops, it will be be double shock and awe time. I can practically guarantee that the screams in the future will include public calls for “jury nullification” (by refusing to cast a guilty vote despite overwhelming evidence) from societies’ peons to the MSM corporate giants. Let them. Then we can attack the corporate giants because they will have given us enough evidence to remove the “1st amendment shield that they hide behind. .

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  31. Bingo.

    President Trump’s question may not imply what many people infer.

    “Why not use Justice Department lawyers?” The answer may be because they are Deep State.

    “DISGRACEFUL” may very well refer to that state of affairs.

    We live in interesting times…

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  32. AKM says:

    From my perspective (on the other side of the Atlantic from most of you), it seems clear Sessions and IG are moving things along, otherwise there would have been no revelations of malfeasance at the FBI / DoJ, and no changes in senior FBI management. If I know that, surely PDJT knows it, maybe via receiving updates in his PDB’s. PDJT’s tweets therefore look like a troll exercise. His comments re Sessions do 3 things: a) Fisa, Sessions and the IG are in the news again, even the left-wing media; b) Sessions et al are on notice to make sure they follow through on the timetable of IG report appearing in March; and c) that said, lots of people are distracted from the coming inevitable revelations.

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    • boogywstew says:

      This thread tonight was sort of rowdy but I believe most of us will reconcile. “Cold hearted orb that rules the night, removes the colours from our sight. Red is grey and yellow white, but we decide which is right … and which is an illusion.”

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      • Ad rem says:

        For the record….you’re a class act boogywstew.

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      • dallasdan says:

        MBs > RSs

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        • boogywstew says:

          Moody Blues > Rolling Stones ? “To Our Children’s, Children’s Children” and “A Question of Balance” are my two favorite Moody albums and my two favorite concept albums. To me, they’re like “Revolver” and “Rubber Soul” … back to back albums that could have been double albums. Great music … I’m a British Invasion fan.

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          • jokin says:

            LZ must be a strong influence too? (W/ a side dish of Ian Stewart?)

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            • boogywstew says:

              The Led Zeppelin song “Boogy With Stu” from ‘Physical Graffiti” was dedicated to Ian Stewart. My name is Stewart and when I first understood the email concept with usernames I thought it would fit me as I also am a LZ, Ian Stewart and boogy music fan. My favorites are the Beatles, Doors, Fleetwood Mac, The Who, Rogers and Hammerstein, Jimi Hendrix, Buddy Rich … I’m eclectic

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      • ladypenquin says:

        Moody Blues. “Nights in White Satin” – first album I ever owned. Still have it. 🙂

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        • boogywstew says:

          I hate to recommend anything to send folks to PBS, but they’re running a special with the Moody Blues doing “Nights in White Satin”, the whole album in running order, in concert. They also do some other songs. In April 2018 the Moody Blues will FINALLY be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!!!

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      • BobInFL says:

        Love the “late lament” reference boogywstew!

        From my perspective, it is getting late in the game here both from a PR and a mid-term perspective. Since the beginning of Sundance’s postings of info about FISA abuse, sedition/treason etc. I have been patient with how this was being rolled out and encouraged that justice will be done. However everday that passes since the first of the year brings just a little more trepidation on my part. MrsInFL keeps saying “you have been saying something big is going to happen for months”……I can’t argue with her.

        There appears to be plenty of evidence to charge some low level FBI/DOJ staffers right now (heck, could have started last year) and if our AG would do just that, get the prosecurorial ball rolling with a grand jury, that would make us all feel better that things were moving in the right direction.

        Seems that members of congress have done their job exposing this crap and they have taken a lot of heat (especially Nunes) in doing this. Seeing Nunes, Jordan, Gaetz, DeSantis, Meadows all recently voicing frustration over how slow this is going, and calling on our AG to get moving (and again VSGPDJT doing the same yesterday) leads me to believe that there is a real frustration on the part of people who know the evidence is there and the lack of action being taken. It could all be kibuki to soften up the battlefield for a big moab, and I really pray that it is, but now we are in March 2018. It really takes a year to investigate criminal leaks? I am having a hard time buying that. Hearing that they are just starting the FISA investigation isn’t giving me warm and fuzzies either.

        Meadows was on Dobbs the other night and you could tell he was frustrated, Lou was frustrated too. After that segment Greg Jarret was on and he outlined 6 laws that he identified that were broken (just on the FISA abuse) that all involed could be charged with – and I got the impression he meant charged right now.

        I have been patient with our AG and fully supportive of him throughout his tenure. But as each day passes, with no concrete wins (indictments and perp walks), I move a little bit further towards the “Sleepy Sessions” side of the equation. I’m not there yet but that is the direction I am heading in unfortunately.

        The month of March will be very telling for me and how I feel about our AG. If the IG report is postponed or lacking in testosterone, those will really take the wind out of the sails.

        Justice must be served. It is a major piece to Making America Great Again. Please Mr. Sessions let it be done!

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  33. Mutton says:

    We live in…. obfuscating, language and meaning distorting, reconstructive, political marketing…. times, eh matey.
    You know what I mean.

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  34. Beverly says:

    Sessions is responsible for the DOJ’s impotence. He is the CAPTAIN OF HIS SHIP, and the law must be enforced! Too many CRIMINALS are getting away with TREASON.

    The President is right: it is DISGRACEFUL!

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  35. Andy says:

    Hannity was on fire tonight. Covered the Trump Session feud, Collyer’s reply to Goodlatte and Nunes, and the call for a Special Counsel by several Congressmen.

    I think he is wrong on the Collyer issue. Goodlatte requested the originals of the FISA applications from the court to compare them with the copies retained by the DOJ, which a few members of Congress have already seen. Goodlatte wants to verify that the DOJ copies seen by Congress have not been altered. All Collyer had to do was to give Goodlatte her copies of the applications. Instead, she stonewalled him with a phony separation of powers claim.. She suggested that Goodlatte should get the applications from the DOJ. Get real, lady, you know Goodlatte is requesting them from you because he doesn’t fully trust the DOJ copies. This judge needs to be told that if she doesn’t get those copies to Goodlatte ASAP, there will be a full Congressional investigation of her court. OMG the excuses these deep state creatures come up with to avoid accountability.

    On the Trump Sessions feud, I’m shocked by Sessions’ insolence toward the President. Clearly Trump was requesting a full investigation of the entire FISA matter, to include not just members of the DOJ and FBI but also the broader conspiracy and participants like Fusion, Simpson, Hillary, Steele, the DNC, etc. Sessions’ response of, “We have initiated the appropriate process that will ensure complaints against this Department will be fully and fairly acted upon if necessary,” amounts to insubordination and involves a level of arrogance from an AG toward his boss that’s hard to comprehend. Trump obviously was not speaking to “complaints against this Department.” He was addressing the broader investigation. Sessions should be fired immediately, and a new AG appointed, one who is not recused and is fully engaged in doing the job of AG. Sessions was a mistake from the swamp.

    Several Congressmen are now calling for a special counsel. The DOJ cannot investigate itself on a matter of this magnitude. This is a principle that’s widely acknowledged at all levels of law enforcement. How can a DOJ prosecutor investigate his boss, Rod Rosenstein? Impossible. FISAgate falls clearly within the special counsel statute. It’s times to get a new AG, a new Asst. AG, and a new special counsel.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “All Collyer had to do was to give Goodlatte her copies of the applications. Instead, she stonewalled him with a phony separation of powers claim.”

      You know things are really bad when private citizens that are “in the know” that despise “special counsels” and have perennially been against them are now calling for one in this case. Our lawmakers that are doing the same are the few and far between that have not been tainted by “the swamp”.

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  36. Rynn69 says:

    I do not know what to think. But I do know this – from all the Treepers comments and people I have talked to in the swing states – the American public is very aware of what is going on, their is a certain amount of anxiety/frustration/impatience with it all, and 100% of the people I have asked (a very unscientific poll I admit) state they expect to see wrongdoers brought to justice up to and including prison. This I do know.

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    • Rynn69 says:

      Sorry “there (sic) is a certain amount of anxiety”…I am a little tired…

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    • kallibella says:

      I, too, think that there are lots of people paying more attention than we think about this issue of the FBI/DOJ, and I agree that what Americans expect is to see justice done. One of the main issues that then-candidate Trump ran on was the issue of the swamp and Crooked Hillary’s illegal treatment of classified information through her private server. He is still hearing the chant of “lock her up,” as recent as his speech to CPAC last week. The issue has not gone away, and I think he is very aware of that!

      That is why I think that what is going on publicly between POTUS Trump and AG Sessions is way TOO obvious. I don’t know what they have strategized and I am not politically savvy enough to figure it out. But I don’t think that POTUS Trump would be that obvious about his relationship with his AG and the latter’s performance. There is something going on, and I don’t think it is about letting guilty people go free.

      I remember that in many of his rallies, candidate Trump criticized the military strategy Ozero44 largely used vis-a-vis ISIS. Ozero44 told the enemy when the place would be bombed and therefore ISIS moved to another location avoiding their demise.

      Therefore, I don’t believe for a minute that POTUS Trump is showing his cards! And reading so many of Sundance’s articles and analyses of the situation, I think that my belief is more confirmed than not.

      I also think that POTUS Trump knew there was corruption in the DOJ/FBI and elsewhere, but I don’t think he really knew the extent of it/how wide spread this cancer is and how many are corrupt. It will take.

      If there is one thing I’ve come to expect from POTUS Trump is that he is well in control and knows what is going on and I trust his instincts because he knows stuff we don’t know.

      So, I will continue to support him by voting for him again in 2020 and by supporting candidates that will support his agenda.

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “If there is one thing I’ve come to expect from POTUS Trump is that he is well in control and knows what is going on and I trust his instincts because he knows stuff we don’t know”

        Dear kallibella,

        I concur. I think there are going to be many surprised people on both sides, when all is said and done. That being said, I don’t tweet and will not open an account to keep up with our President. Any important tweets I will find out about, I don’t need to know the minute they are sent.

        I did not have a cell phone until the campaign, at which time I had to get a smart phone to do volunteer work in the primaries.Since using it for texting, I have encountered a number of instances in which misunderstandings have taken place, despite trying to text clearly and concisely without abbreviations, etc.

        I have since refused to text about anything involving more complex human interactions. As far as our President’s tweets, here is a fine example from earlier in this thread. It was about his AG and the DOJ. At the end of the tweet, POTUS has “DISGRACEFUL” at the end on it’s own line.

        So, the question was brought up, is the “DISGRACEFUL” referring to Mr. Sessions, Mr. Rosenstein, or the DOJ? Thus the interpretations swirl endlessly about.

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        • kallibella says:

          I agree about social media communications. They are frequently misunderstood and appear to cause lots of problem for so many people.

          POTUS is not new to Twiter and has been tweeting for years, so I am sure he knows how a tweet can be misunderstood. I think that he may use that social media limitation to his advantage. He may want some people to see the obvious while meaning something else. He is very street smart, I think.

          He knows what he meant, and I am sure he knew the MSM would be talking about it. Perhaps he meant it that way?! He keeps the MSM off their narrative and injects issues he most likely would like people to think about.
          In his tweet there are very obvious matters he is calling attention to:
          “Massive FISA abuse”
          “Report on Comey, etc.”
          “Obama guy”
          So, I don’t know what he meant by “DISGRACEFUL” but these issues are again introduced into the public arena.

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  37. TMR777 says:

    “Robert Mueller reportedly examining Trump’s turbulent dynamic with Jeff Sessions”. This article (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/robert-mueller-reportedly-examining-trumps-turbulent-dynamic-with-jeff-sessions/article/2650353) in the Washing Times leads me to believe that Sessions has the backing of Mueller in almost daring Trump to fire him. I find Sessions to be quite impudent and arrogant. He’s done NOTHING, in any way, to help Trump since the election. In fact, IMO, he’s done more to work AGAINST Trump’s agenda, most glaringly the recusal about which he has zero regrets. I believe Sessions, Mueller, Rosenstein, McCabe, Comey, et al. are all part of the same swamp and must be defeated!

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    • Andy says:

      Isn’t that something? What does that have to do with collusion with the Russian government? We have an AG who has recused himself from doing the job, an Asst AG who signed a false application for a FISA warrant, “supervising” an out-of-control special counsel who fails to abide by his mandate. And the three of them seem to be functioning as a shadow government hellbent on undermining the President. They have the government tied in knots. Watching this crew, you’d never know we won the election.

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    • jokin says:

      Two words to describe Sessions may be @ the heart of his behavior when the indictments of the DOJ Swamp Criminals finally begin to be handed down:

      “Plausible Reliability” [TM]

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    • Willie Elbel says:

      Firing Sessions because his delay and obfuscation IS obstruction of justice will be used as evidence of Trump Obstructing Justice. Orwell has arrived in full!

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  38. Pat Frederick says:

    Pot stirred Mr. President. well done!

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  39. ladypenquin says:

    Schweikart had several more tweets for his thread on Trump/Sessions. Worth reading.

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  40. Jane Smith says:

    Jeff Sessions more and more appears to be a Swamp Creature to me.
    What has he done for the past year?
    As soon as he recused himself from “All things Russia”, Trump should have fired him.
    The “Russia Collusion” narrative has helped to maintain a giant divide in this country. It has also hampered the Trump Administration from getting more accomplished.
    Mueller’s witch hunt has been an absolute disgrace from the very beginning. Without evidence of a crime to begin with, a special council should never have been convened.
    For the health of the country, Mueller’s witch hunt needs to end. Sessions cannot do this. Trump should replace him with someone who can.

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  41. wyntre says:

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    • Willie Elbel says:

      Sessions IS giving Trump the finger, unlike Holder who followed Obama’s orders to the letter, even when cited for contempt.

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    • georgiafl says:

      How completely silly.

      The three men were obviously celebrating and congratulating themselves on the new conservative lawyers they have hired and the way the investigations of all the Ø and HRC corruption within the DOJ and IG are going!

      Some people can only see and paint things with a one color palette.

      Reminds me of….

      Granpa Dropped His Glasses

      By Leroy F. Jackson

      Granpa dropped his glasses once
      In a pot of dye,
      And when he put them on again
      He saw a purple sky.
      Purple fires were rising up
      From a purple hill,
      Men were grinding purple cider
      at a purple mill.
      Purple Adeline was playing
      With a purple doll;
      Little purple dragon flies
      Were crawling up the wall.
      And at the supper-table
      He got crazy as a loon
      From eating purple apple dumplings
      With a purple spoon.

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  42. f.fernandez says:

    Raise your hand if you actually think the I.G. hasn’t ALREADY been looking into the FISA abuses? Where do you think Nunes is getting all his information?

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  43. interkludge says:

    Donald Trump’s tweets are tactical politics. It’s a strange tweet, so why did he make it?

    At face value, it’s tremendously unprofessional and insulting to both his Attorney General and his Inspector General. And to call them out publicly! If Trump really had these concerns he would have expressed them privately and in person. To take this tweet at face value makes no sense, so with all respect to Sundance, I reject the face value hypothesis.

    This tweet sounds like something that a frustrated MAGA supporter might say. We spend our days on sites like this thrashing through the weeds, but most of Trump’s supporters go to work, come home, have dinner and spend time with their families. They don’t jump on the computer and spend hours trying to piece together clues and scraps. These are the Trump supporters who are expressing exactly the sorts of frustration that Trump just summarized in his tweet.

    Trump just tweeted what they have been thinking.

    Because of this tweet, Jeff Sessions was given a legitimate opportunity to confirm to the public that the Justice Department is taking action — that this has moved past the stage of Congressmen posturing at each other with memos. That’s what his frustrated supporters needed to hear and I think that that is what Trump wanted them hear directly from the Attorney General — Jeff Sessions confirming to the public that there is a Justice Department investigation of the FISA abuse scandal.

    The only way Jeff Sessions could have properly told that to the public was as a public response to a public challenge by his superior. And that’s what happened.

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  44. Realist says:

    The swamp is deep and the swamp is wide and Sessions is its GUARDIAN

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  45. yy4u says:

    I generally do not object to POTUS’s tweets, however, I don’t think it is wise to take on Jeff Sessions. UNLESS, of course, it is all smoke and mirrors and he is trying to give Sessions cover while Sessions works quietly behind the scenes amassing evidence which he’s more likely to get so long as a) the media is distracted pounding on Trump and b) the targets of Sessions investigation think he’s NOT doing what the president wants. Who knows?

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  46. Guy says:

    Uhh, you are wrong Sundance. Just because POTUS is the victim of the crime does NOT prevent him from exercising his Powers of Office. The President has a Fiduciary Duty to enforce the Laws of the US, regardless of any crimes committed against him.

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  47. Phil Garber says:

    “Though the mills of God grind slowly, they grace no exceedingly small.”

    Here’s hoping that the disrupt doesn’t disrupt his own due vindication out of impatience.

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  48. Trump sends out a tweet saying that Jeff Sessions is not doing his job. Jeff Sessions, AKA “The Silent executioner”, holds a press conference stating that all DOJ investigations will be conducted according to the rule of law. Then Sessions goes out to dinner with two of his executive assistants.
    Classic case of the good cop versus the bad cop. Anybody see the big sting picture. Don’t miss the forest for the trees.

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  49. Laura Wesselmann says:

    While I agree with Sundance’ take on Trump’s frustration, I do believe Sessions is dragging his feet. Sessions appears far more interested in his legacy than the well-being of the United States.

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  50. John Q Public says:

    “who can’t necessarily brief the White House due to POTUS Trump being the actual victim of the criminality”

    There’s the problem. The whole construct is stupid. Constitution government is looking foolish and ineffective.

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