President Trump Hosts Meeting With Parents, Teachers and Students Affected by School Shootings…

Earlier today President Trump hosted a meeting with teachers, student and parents affected by recent school shootings.  The President began the session by stating his intent to listen to each view and perspective and then move forward.

The stories told by some meeting participants were quite emotional; others were very deliberate and focused on both short-term and longer term issues. Outside the room both sides of the political continuum are very passionate on this issue; and it doesn’t help to have the deafening drumbeat of ideological U.S. media politicizing the discussion whenever possible.

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434 Responses to President Trump Hosts Meeting With Parents, Teachers and Students Affected by School Shootings…

  1. Ziiggii says:

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    • Peter Rabbit says:

      MASA: PD JT the only man to get things done to make a difference and solve the issue. Libs do not want a solution as this would increase Trump majority and reduce Dem power. Make America Safe Again.

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    • The Boss says:

      Money from Hollywood detritus and metrosexual Mike Bloomberg – all of whom hide behind armed personal security agents.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        To make things even worse, nobody talks about how all these concerned millionaire celebrities make their money killing people in their big screen hits with a gun or rap about killing and raping people in their hit songs, yet these celebrities are favorites, idols and/or heroes of all the high school student victims. Go figure.

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      These five leftwing CNN kidz are all from the drama class there in FLA and auditioning for a future in mass propaganda. CommieNewsNetwork ~ gone bananas… ban AR15s. Ban butcher knives. Ban drug overdoses. Ban cellphones in cars. Ban cars. Ban BB guns. Ban hammers.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Apparently the school is in an elite area….there is also a go fund me account….
      On top of that George Clooney gave them 500,000 dollars…

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      • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

        Virtue signaling. Not to be outdone, Oprah and Spielberg also kicked in a half a mil each. No telling how many million$ the SorosGroups have invested.

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      • nuthinmuffin says:

        average annual salary $277,000 in parkland

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      • “apparently the school is in an elite area”…. Get out your Google Earth goggles. Parkland and Coral Springs are surrounded by “walls” of block building apartment complexes that offer lower rental living space for families that could never afford ‘owning’ . The homes inside these apartment blocks are pure country club dream real estate $500k-$2million. Surrounded by apartments occupied by low renters. All in the same school district. The school population is not all “equestrian/ tennis/ country club youth from interior Parkland. Those elite attend many private or chuch schools. Parkland and Coral Springs are beautiful. The bordering apartment/condo surroundings unfortunately are….use your imagination.

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        • churchmouse says:

          A lot of upmarket towns are like that and have been for ages. Poorer sections are on the outskirts or by the railway line.

          That said, the majority of the town folk are upper middle class.

          By the way, how’s Hamtramck these days? /s

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          • Churchmouse: sarcasm , thank you noted. Excellent point on Hamtramck, Michigan. Just the opposite of Parkland, Hamtramck is a small city “ inside” Detroit. 100 years ago it was the largest population center of Polish and Ukrainian outside of Europe. That ethnicity, today, I believe, still exists in a large way co-existant with a massive influx of Michigan’s Muslim invasion. Odd combination, but apparently developing as an attraction to those looking for interesting cultural evenings. Similar to Greektowns, Chinatowns. I haven’t been there in 70 years.

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        • kinthenorthwest says:

          wow this is what people are saying on FB, yahoo and even twitter

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    • frankie says:

      Do yourself a favor and check today’s post on Howtobeyourowndetective.com.

      The author lays out the case against the media like Perry Mason.

      He also wonders if the media hates Kentucky because they handled their school shooting with dignity and more weapons, not agitation.

      At least one Trump opponent in Broward County (the loudmouth sheriff) stands accused of doinking a high school girl and forcing her to get an abortion. That’s below Roy Moore territory.

      The woman who took Cruz in knew he had almost a million dollar trust fund, and it looks like she roostered him to crack up so she could grab his money while he was in jail or the nuthouse. Unbelievable!

      And they won’t call it “toxic femininity!”

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      • Since Cruz isn’t set to inherit until he is 22, if that was Mrs. Snead’s plan (sounds like baloney to me), then she acted prematurely and ruined her chance to get any money. Mr. Cruz will very likely be spending his entire inheritance on lawyers and appeals, trying to avoid the death penalty. (That’s just about what it costs to mount a defense in a capital case.)

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        • Nchadwick says:

          Suggest you look into the story more – Mrs. Snead is not the one that filed probate estate of Nikolas Cruz’s deceased adopted parents. The information is there for the public to find, if one is willing to do the work to find it – we USED to have journalist that reported and investigated…

          I am reserving my views/thoughts on this, until I am done sourcing all the information. But wanted to let you know the error above — Mrs. Snead isn’t the one that has filed in court.

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          • Understood. frankie said “The woman who took him in…” so I thought he meant the Sneads. Roxanne Deschamps is a family friend who was only a temporary caregiver, not a guardian. She won’t have sufficient standing with the court, especially since the Broward Co. public defenders have asked to make Cruz pay for his own defense:
            http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/inheritance-florida-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz-limbo-article-1.3832558

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            • Nchadwick says:

              See my reply to Ziiggii for link /info probate

              I’m looking for the links to info surrounding Deschamps – I will find and link up here… but you can see that the next day after the shooting the probate was filed (accounts that after the mother died they were not able to find the her will) — also that day is the day that the shooters brother, Zachery was put under psych. hold — 1 week before his 18th birthday.

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          • Ziiggii says:

            How about sharing what you’ve seen here this is a site full of crowdsourced citizen journalism.

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            • Nchadwick says:

              It is not that I’m being evasive – i just don’t want to spread disinformation unless i feel that I’ve done the proper research and verifiable.. As far as the correction on who is filing the probate case — or attempted to

              In Re: Estate of: Cruz, Lynda
              Broward County Case Number: PRC180000799
              State Reporting Number: 062018CP000799A001CE
              Court Type: Probate Case Type: Petition For Administration
              Incident Date: N/A Filing Date: 02/15/2018 Court Location: Central Courthouse Case Status: Pending – PR Magistrate Id / Name: N/A Judge ID / Name: 61J Greene, Charles M

              02/15/2018 Petition for Administration (Intestate)
              02/15/2018 Oath of Personal Rep and Designation of Resident Agent
              Designates: Audra Simovitch, Esq.
              Party: Representative Deschamps, Rocxanne

              Related Case
              PRC050004332 Family Member (Decedent Cruz, Roger P)

              DOB: 06/14/1937
              DOD: 08/11/2004

              https://www.browardclerk.org/Web2/CaseSearch/

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              • Nchadwick says:

                As I posted this – Nikolas Cruz’s case has been updated regarding this above matter

                Use the above link — and search under his name –
                Under Events /Documents
                Able to access the court’s order regarding the probate
                02/20/2018 File Defense Motion For Indigency

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          • frankie says:

            The time line is this:
            Deschamps took kids in 11/17
            Later she kicked out Nikolas but kept Zachary
            Nikolas moves in with Sneads, who are innocent of the scam
            2/14 shooting
            Right afterward Deschamps commits Zachary and her lawyer files to grab the money.

            Nchadwick, and others in this string, you are critical readers, worthy of fellowship in teh Treehouse Nation.

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        • nuthinmuffin says:

          they’ll bleed him

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    • Atlanta? The town hall thing is being held in Sunrise, Fl where the NHL Florida Panthers play.

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  2. Ziiggii says:

    the MSM is also trying to use this photo to jab at POTUS for actually having a few notes written down…

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  3. Ziiggii says:

    oh and there was another arrest today in my area. That’s 2 since last week

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  4. texastrumper says:

    If this country would get back to God, the evil that exists would begin to fade real quick. I fear we are way past that point as a country so I will just lead my life believing in that highest power and attempt to lead by example.

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    • bill riser says:

      Yes, imagine what the public schools would be like today if just pray was the start of each school day!

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    • bill riser says:

      Yes, imagine what the public schools would be like today if just pray was the start of each school day!

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    • bill riser says:

      Yes, imagine what the public schools would be like today if just pray was the start of each school day!

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    • scott467 says:

      “If this country would get back to God, the evil that exists would begin to fade real quick. I fear we are way past that point as a country so I will just lead my life believing in that highest power and attempt to lead by example.”

      ________________

      I agree very much, except the part that we are way past the point of no return.

      All it takes is a leader to decide to do it.

      That’s how they did it in ancient times. A righteous leader turning back to God, and the people with him, tearing down all the groves and altars, and idols, and false prophets, destroying them, as recorded in the Scriptures.

      We could do it again today, and have the exact same result.

      Even the people of Nineveh were spared when they heeded the preaching of Jonah, and the king covered himself in sackcloth and sat in ashes. (cf. Jonah 3:4-10)

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    • bobsunshine says:

      I read that there were never any mass “shootings in Catholic schools”. Why is that? Could it be faith, family values, respect, discipline, parental involvement separates public and private schools?

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      • jahealy says:

        My 12-year-old niece attends a Catholic school in Florida. As it turns out, kids actually CAN be simultaneously adolescent, respectful, well-mannered, and good students. Who knew? There’s nothing like teachers and parents who don’t take their eye off the ball to create productive, law-abiding, responsible, sane kids.

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  5. Sandra-VA says:

    This was a very powerful meeting, showing once again that President Trump is the right man for this time. When did we ever see such a thing as this?

    Something will be done, and it won’t involve taking our guns away. A lot of good ideas were shared, but it seems the move is towards making sure that schools are safe and that children who are experiencing “issues” will not be allowed to fall into the black abyss. Common sense will prevail.

    I am encouraged!

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    • MM says:

      Common sense solutions will prevail.

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    • cdnintx says:

      I agree. I think this was a great move by the President. He had to do something to flip what the MSM narrative is running with. I have no doubt the President will do whatever he can to ensure the Schools are as safe as he can make them and get students to talk about mental health, bullying and safety.

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    • kallibella says:

      And again, we are witnessing a President who will take another issue out of the hands of the Left/Dems and make it his own and produce the results necessary. The Dems will hate him all the more, because as it is and as of now, we have a president who is delivering on jobs, the economy, solutions in health insurance via short-term policies, is pushing for immigration reform whereby up to 1.8M worthy DACA individuals can be considered for legal status. And now he is wiling to take the lead on school safety. Many consider these issues to be the “issues” the Dems demagogue only for political gains.
      It’s only been a year and a month into his first term!

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      • nimrodman says:

        “we are witnessing a President who will take another issue out of the hands of the Left/Dems”

        Critically accurate point, kallibella. PresTrump seizes the issue and defuses the false-narratives cudgel the Left would otherwise construct and promote to bludgeon him and conservatives over the head.

        And that’s without even going further-on to the “results” you mention.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Sadly he has to lead where it should be congress doing the bi-partisan law making on an issue that should have no party boundaries.
      Republicans are afraid to govern, because they might not e re-elected.
      Democrats will not legislate, because they need an issue.
      Both won’t legislate because the special interest money is too good.
      Media never addresses the issues because they need the commercials.

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    • tuskyou says:

      I’m encouraged as well. POTUS promised to be the President of ALL Americans–even the ones who didn’t vote for him or didn’t vote at all. He’s demonstrating his willingness to listen to everyone. Doesn’t mean everyone will get what they want but they’ll have input. No more alienating people, no more sowing division and pitting Americans against each other.

      One of my friends is chanting “slippery slope”. I get where he’s coming from but this time is different. First, Trump knows the slippery slope and he’ll avoid it. Second, listening is listening! Seems pretty basic but my friend is reading too much into it. President Trump will sit patiently and listen respectfully. He’s not going to implement every suggestion. Just because you listen to someone suggest using toothpaste on your fries instead of ketchup doesn’t mean you’re going to do it!!

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  6. lastinillinois says:

    Chicago Public High schools have 2 armed officers at each school – with marked CPD vehicle parked out front – all day every school day.

    When was the last time we heard of a shooting inside -or anywhere on the grounds of – a Chicago high school?

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  7. Nick says:

    Long time lurker here first post. Have to ask why we are not allowed to comment on the bump stock ban article? I lost a good bit of faith in this site due to that.

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  8. bullnuke says:

    Until both sides agree there is evil in this world then a true bipartisan solution will never happen.

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  9. Rondo says:

    “Just last week, Congress was calling on Tide to change the design of the Pods so teenagers would stop eating them. This week, teenagers should determine gun policy.”

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      They’re so smart now maybe we should let them vote. Drop the age to 12 and let them run for the Board of Education. Then they can reconfigure the school year to 3 months of study and 9 months of vacation. Chocolate chip cookies for breakfast and cake & ice cream for school lunch. Schools can pay them an allowance just for showing up for class. No suspensions for bad behavior of course and no failing grades. Weekly class trips to Chuck E Cheese and oh, um free Obamaphones & WiFi for anyone over the age of 6.

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    • JL says:

      Leftist conclusion: Tide pods make you smart.

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    • kittytrump84 says:

      Coddling children is yet one more facet of the current culture. I can’t tell you how many parents I have met who are ruled by 4 and 5 year old children. People actually allow there children to decide where the family will go and what they will do.

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  10. kallibella says:

    Predictably, the Left/Dems have again hijacked a tragedy and they have taken over the grief and horrible experience these kids/people have suffered and turned it into a political campaign for gun control. I cringe when I see these kids, who are still wet behind their ears, shouting that we must pass gun control legislation now.

    Not wanting to sound insensitive, and keeping in mind that many of these kids are really suffering the horrific event and that they won’t see some of their friends ever again, I venture to say that if we were to quiz them on relevant things about American history and the reasons for the 2nd amendment, we will not hear any coherency in their answers. So sad that we have willingly surrendered our kids into the hands of a system that would eventually strip them and all of us of our God-given rights.

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  11. Lumina says:

    This was amazing to watch. The students are so wise and well versed…so many possible solutions .How are they going to critique POTUS for listening to all sides and taking action to help?

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    • thedoc00 says:

      In the middle of the President Trump’s session, CNN ran a commercial for their Town Hall tonight. The listed the participants and had President Trump’s photo to the right of the list with RED Bold letters, NOT ATEENDING.

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    • sunnydaze says:

      IKR? It was fantastic.

      Feel like a lot of the comments on this thread are from people who haven’t watched it.

      Seriously people, give it a watch and discuss what’s happened there.

      I was genuinely surprised at how interesting it was.

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  12. dbobway says:

    The father whose daughter was murdered at Douglas High School.
    This isn’t about gun laws now, that’s for another time,it’s about safety.
    I almost lost one of my daughters from a bad fall as a senior in College.
    It was the worst day in my life, I still can’t imagine the day that father had.

    If we are going to have gun free zones? You have to Back it up with security.
    Period!

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  13. nor'easter says:

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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  14. colddeadhandsyoudirtyape says:

    There was one Parkland student who repeated Chris Cuomo’s ‘s lie about buying a AR-15 in 5 minutes w/o an ID. Story of his lie here: https://www.dailywire.com/news/27394/fake-news-cnns-chris-cuomo-pushes-false-story-ben-shapiro

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  15. linda4298 says:

    When did Obama ever do anything like Potus did, listen to both sides.

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  16. Why we continue to allow the Marxists completely control the entire public education system is beyond me. To use the proglodyte’s own system of determining institutionalized discrimination, if ~50% of the population are conservative, why are there virtually no conservatives in education? We need some affirmative action on this front. We can’t win this fight while we let the proglodytes poison our children’s minds while we go about our daily business.

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  17. Pam says:

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  18. covfefe999 says:

    I haven’t seen the paid activist kids. Did they skip? Hollywood beckons?

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  19. Pam says:

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  20. Left_at_Dunkirk says:

    Tallahassee Treeper here. My step-son attends local high school and our school system encouraged the kids to attend the rally in Tally (excused from class and buses provided). He won’t post his many videos of the event our of fear, but suffice to say there were LBGT flags, chants of “F” Rick Scott, and plenty of other progressive niceties. Basically, our local politicians helped to bring an AstroTurf crowd out for a Democrat Party anti-gun rally. The silver lining is that my boy wasn’t the only one there who recognized the set up, as many of his friends attended to confirm their own view of the what emotional thinking does to people. Really sad that the democrats can always manage to use the most emotionally upset folks to try and further their agenda.

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    • sunnydaze says:

      ….” sad the democrats can always manage to use the most emotionally upset folks to try and further their agenda….”

      They cannot use calm, thinking people with their heads screwed on straight. That’s the good news.

      Glad your son and others who disagree went to that thing. It helps them know what they’re up against.

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  21. nimrodman says:

    Coming up on Fox News after station break they’ll look at where that call to the FBI went.
    “To a small call center in West Virginia”.

    “Why are we doing things that way? We’ll speak to (—- Hosco, FBI guy … etc)

    It’s :32 past the hour as I post this.

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  22. Pam says:

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  23. Michael says:

    I’d say that went very well. Trump supports allowing teachers if they choose to carry firearms. That is a huge win and really the only way to limit the carnage in “active shooter” situations. There is no way to stop murder. That’s been going on since Cain killed Abel. Evil exists and isn’t going away. Trump understands this and realizes there need to be solutions to limit the damage. Letting teachers with proper training carry firearms is a brilliant idea.

    Raising the age for purchasing firearms rubs me the wrong way, though. I’ve always thought it ridiculous that one can purchase a long gun at 18 but a handgun only when they’ve turned 21. If a person is old enough to vote or enlist in the military then he should be old enough to exercise all the other rights of adulthood. Besides, this wouldn’t help much anyway. Adam Lanza was gifted his firearms from his mother after all.

    Very happy to hear that the President isn’t embracing bad ideas like “assault weapons bans” (which even the generally anti-gun DOJ admitted did nothing to reduce shootings during the 10 years it was in existence on the federal level).

    I am concerned about the forthcoming bump stock regulation. I hope it’s narrowly tailored to only affect bump stocks and not aftermarket triggers or lightweight bolt carriers or any of the other products hobbyists purchase to make their weapons run more efficiently.

    I’m also extremely pleased to hear the President recommend reopening the mental asylums that were closed 30+ years ago because leftists successfully challenged commitments in the courts. We have thousands of genuinely crazy people running around in the free world that decades ago would have been institutionalized. This policy of coddling crazy people instead of forcing them into treatment is itself crazy. That has to change.

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  24. ForGodandCountry says:

    Matthew 18:6

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  25. TreeperInTraining says:

    Interesting addition to this conversation.

    Broward schools will now have ARMED guards.

    The world has gone mad.

    (Me thinks trump has something to do with this)

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  26. Ziiggii says:

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  27. WFO says:

    This article ties covert operations against Trump by the British (Fusion GPS/ Dossier and Wiring Trump Tower by British Intelligence) to the rash of school shootings across the country (and more) that goes by the code name Gladio C.

    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=94576

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  28. Truthfilter says:

    At Thibodaux High School (Louisiana), one 17 year old arrested yesterday and another one arrested today for allegedly creating a “kill list.”

    Parents are up in arms because the school didn’t inform them of these threats. I am just happy the school district and LEO are taking it seriously. Not sure it would be beneficial to announce or inform parents of threats as they happen. People are just really nervous right now.

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  29. Realist says:

    The supremely POLITICAL and ILLOGICAL and IRRATIONAL LEFTURD ‘Blame the INANIMATE object’ protests continue apace, blithely IGNORANT of the fact that KNIVES are used in THOUSANDS more killings each year than Guns are and that CARS kill THOUSANDS more too. Oh and you are not allowed to mention CHICAGO either where there are THOUSANDS of gun deaths every year and where some of the STRICTEST GUN CONTROL LAWS in the country are in place because – well because that is MAINLY Blacks killing Blacks with handguns and the LEFTURDS will do anything to protect Blacks from any criticism whatsoever because they are one of their HOLY COWS along with Muslims, Feminazis and Baby Butchers.

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  30. GSR says:

    I’ve got an idea…..before doing anything else, how about we lock school doors to anyone outside. Nah, too simple.

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      Not that simple. As a former student, apparently this kid knew the routine and waited until classes ended and the first ones out a certain exit door allowed him to slip right in.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      I was quite shocked at how “open” schools are in this country. I thought back to my childhood in the UK and don’t remember going to a single school that did not have a high fence/wall and lockable gates at every entrance.

      Seeing the building where the shooter did his damage in FL, it had ZERO protection from anyone outside. Absurd.

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      • treehouseron says:

        I went to high school in the early 90’s, all the buildings were completely accessible at all times to anybody. This was before Columbine though.

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      • tonyE says:

        Yep, until the 7th grade I went to a Catholic School back in the old country ( Private Catholic Schools then and there were expensive and La Creme de la Creme). No one could walk just in from the street, perhaps it was to prevent Protestants from tempting us kids, but it worked.

        When we moved to the US, I was shocked how open the campuses are here.

        But that was a different time. We didn’t go shooting each other and the Democrats were no fascist yet.

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        • lokiscout says:

          Your last comment is absolutely golden. We don’t have any Zell Miller’s, JFK’s or Harry Truman’s in the Democratic Party anymore. Don’t know what they would be but they certainly would not belong to today’s Democrats. Don’t always agree with the policies they had but they all loved their country and put country ahead of party.

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  31. Ziiggii says:

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    • treehouseron says:

      This guy REALLY has his stuff together. Someone earlier was ridiculing his comments about Diversity and Unity, but if you listen to what he was saying, he was saying that focusing on diversity alienates kids, focusing on Unity causes people to not strive for excellence (because we’re all mediocre in it together)…. he was making the point that the way you save these kids from turning into monsters is teaching all the kids to relate to each other, and not care about diversity or unity, focus on accepting people and not focus on a diversity quota or a ‘all for one’ attitude, focus on individuals so this kid would have gotten the message that he’s unique and has unique problems, but everyone does and that’s no reason to kill your fellow students.

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  33. covfefe999 says:

    The father at 21:44 makes some superb points! There is so much security in so many places, airports, government buildings .. but not in schools! Fix the school security NOW. Deal with guns later. He said if he had known this was going to happen then HE would have been at the school every day!

    This solution is so insanely simple it’s painful to think about. We need armed guards or armed teachers and staff NOW.

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  34. Ziiggii says:

    people need to listen to this kid….

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  35. Pam says:

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  37. thedoc00 says:

    Noticed folks talking about arming school teachers. I know and have known 100’s of teachers. Not a one would answer the question with an immediate YES, to the question, “could you shoot a teen-ager with a gun without any hesitation?” or “could you pull the trigger if the attacker is standing in a crowd?” 99% of them do NOT like guns. Plus, not sure many parents would be very comfortable having an armed teacher vs a properly trained, experience and motivated person holding the weapons.
    I was in the military, ask any military guy or police officer, who will tell you that there is allot physical (shooting practice and tactics) and mental training required to answer yes to those questions. Hire dedicated security or stationing police is still better and safer solution.
    Armed teachers, in my opinion is a knee jerk reaction by people who do not understand what they are demanding.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      How about those teachers and staff who are already gun owners, already comfy with guns, be allowed to bring their guns to school. If we want to give them some kind of certification that’s fine. We need guards at schools. As the father says in the meeting, we have armed guards at airports, at government buildings, concerts, etc. Why not schools??

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      • covfefe999 says:

        thedoc00, I want to add that I agree with your comment. I know that not every person is cut out to use a firearm for protection. When I decided to buy mine, at the same time I had to decide to USE it if ever necessary. I had to make up my mind before the purchase that if someone broke into my home that I will pull that trigger with zero hesitation. I cannot hesitate and I must be accurate. It took me a while to make it to that point.

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        • Sylvia Avery says:

          Yes, absolutely. Really, I am not sure there is anything worse than a firearm in the hands of someone who has not already searched their soul and decided, in advance, that if they have to pull a weapon on someone they must be prepared to use it and to shoot to kill.

          If they can’t come to terms with that they have no business with a firearm, in my opinion. And there is nothing wrong with someone who can’t make that decision or won’t or who recognizes their limitations. That’s okay, they just should not be in a position then of ever having to defend someone from lethal force.

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      • Dekester says:

        Great suggestion.

        Maybe have a couple of from each teachers certified and trained by the local PD.

        Offer say a 10% Specialist pay to qualified teachers.

        My guess is there would be a waiting list to get the positions.

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      Agreed on the 99%. Mandatory teacher weapons training is NOT an option. However, allowing concealed carry holders who are teachers to be armed at school is not a bad idea.

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    • Michelle says:

      Personally I feel that if I were a teacher, I would absolutely want a gun. I would take the time to be comfortable with one and learn how to use it. And I used to be hugely, and I mean hugely, anti gun, to the point where I would have divorced my husband if he ever got one.

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    • rf121 says:

      I remember an LA police shoot where the officers fired something like a 100 rounds at a vehicle and like 10 hit. I served over a decade on active duty and fired a total of four rounds at a range in Basic for my entire career. So the training and experience issue is all over the place.

      Besides teachers there are lots of other staff at schools. For me the immediate fix is to let those that want to be armed be and do additional training. Both at the range and with local LEO’s to walkthrough scenarios at their specific school.

      Ultimately this is an issue of money. Do we want to pay to have an armed security force at every school in the country? Who will pay for that as funding for each District is all over the map. What about a rural school versus an urban school?

      I visit 100’s of schools every year for work and they come in all shapes, sizes, and with unique security differences. The phyco’s are out there and the next shooting could be tomorrow. Lose the gun free zone and get some good guys with guns on campus now.

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      • pyromancer76 says:

        Good guys — and gals — with guns on campus now. Mothers/women know how to protect and defend just like fathers/men do. Whoever has the training and willingness. Annie Oakley, remember, and many, many more.

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    • tonyE says:

      Hmm… I suppose the PE class might be the safest class in school soon, huh?

      Let’s see.. Physics, Chemistry, PE, Shop… the safest classes with an armed teacher.

      “Hey mister, you mess with my class and you’re gonna experience Newton’s laws on the ballistic path of a lead bullet!”

      The most dangerous? Drama, Art, Political Science….

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    • Michael says:

      School Marshal is a real thing and has been for several years in Texas. Just knowing they are there is going to stop this murder. Cowards look for soft targets.

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    • WFO says:

      The schools in our town have armed teachers and staff – nobody knows exactly who, just that they are there, and they are trained and have a License To Carry.

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    • G. Combs says:

      My Ex is now a physics teacher in high school. He was also an Army basic training officer as a 2nd Lt and left the Army as a Colonel. I think he and those like him could easily be Armed teachers.

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  38. beigun says:

    I’ve spent 28 years overseas after college, 2/3 military and 1/3 corporate, so most of my adult life. Of course, I travelled back to the States from Asia on a monthly basis for the last 15 years of the expat life, but I did not realize how much America had changed, the country that I was serving overseas for such a long time. I believe Americans do not understand how much the nation has changed within only two generations. Great change, when implemented slowly over a long period of time, may go unnoticed until terrible consequences erupt later–then everyone wonders what happened?

    Upon my return to America (San Francisco, from which I moved from after 2 years due to the homeless, filth and crime) three years ago the first thing that hit me was how the MSM became a tool instead of journalism. I still can not find out where the Cruz boy was born, and where his original parents were born?? Basic stuff, journalists! But what really got me was the violence in society, especially movies and games (and music). My generation experienced the first ratings in movies as “Straw Dogs” brought blood and gore to the screen. Before that it was ketchup on the shower floor for Hitchcock’s “Psycho.” All the violence that our society once forbid to show kids, has become a big factor in the overall violence we have today in America.

    So, thank you Harvey Weinstein and Quinten Tarantino! We need a special Oscar for the “detrimental affect on society” category.

    Another thing that I’ve noticed is the general disappearance of God until tragedy, like disasters or mass killings. “Is God Dead” was the question of the “Boomers” and there are consequences for not teaching children that “Thou Shalt Not Kill” in school.

    The Ten Commandments were removed from elementary schools about the same time “R” ratings were developed. Think about that. Progressive intentions had terrible consequences and that may likely explain why the situation has become an epidemic that needs a national response.

    So, thank you progressive mass media for killing God and basic Judeo-Christion values, or even respect for God in American politics as displayed in the State of the Union.

    Fixing the mass killing problem is far greater than gun regulations. BTW, I’m for a 5 year path to auto weapon at age 25, after NRA training with local police…this increases the numbers of law abiding citizens. What really isrequired is a rethink on how we educate our youth. Returning Civics/Constitution to schools, along with a bit of “Thou Shalt Not Kill” Commandments is sorely needed. Return American schools to the basic curriculum of the early 1960s.

    Last, the youth of America are woefully unprepared for the world. Look at the embarrassing NBC goof at the Korean Olympic opening ceremony, insulting the whole country due to ignorance.

    I believe POTUS has a plan to bring America back to number one in global competition, and eduction of the youth is critical to MAGA!

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I still can not find out where the Cruz boy was born, and where his original parents were born

      I know! Still a mystery I guess. All we know is that the mother adopted him the day he was born (if that report is true) and adopted his half brother a couple of years later. Seems like a very interesting detail and possibly relevant. Did they travel out of the country to do this adoption? Was Nikolas’ birth mother a drug addict perhaps? Or someone with psychiatric problems?

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    • lokiscout says:

      beigun, excellent post! Well written and cogent. Thank you.

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  39. Ausonius says:

    Anybody recall “Project Exile” from the Billy Jeff Clinton days?

    It put felons with guns, or anyone who was not supposed to have a gun, on a fast track to Federal court, and if convicted, into a Federal prison for 5 to 10 years! A test program in Richmond Virginia reduced homicides by over 20% per year.

    Until…the Congressional Black Caucus started screaming, because most of the people being caught were… 😉

    See:

    https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/meet-project-exile-the-proven-effective-anti-gun-crime-proposal-that-liberals-hate/

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  40. Ziiggii says:

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    • covfefe999 says:

      She has armed guards at her workplace. Put armed guards in school. Period.

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    • Troublemaker10 says:

      This is why Trump was elected. People have stopped listening to politicians who “politicize” and use political ‘talking point’ useless attack speech. They are disgusted and tone deaf to it. Trump hears the people and speaks back with real heart and mind….connects and communicates as one human being to another. It isn’t always eloquent…..but it is always authentic.

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      • G. Combs says:

        I really do not care if our VSG-PDJT is eloquent or not. Actually I am glad he is not because I am very very sick of the silver tongued ANTI-American politicians.

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    • Lucille says:

      “Stop putting the gun lobby ahead of our safety.”

      That is just downright disgusting, Mrs. Kelly. How about not placing your leftist politics ahead of the United States Constitution and our God-given right to the protection of ourselves, our families, our businesses and our communities.

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  41. John Doe says:

    I hope people actually watch this ‘listening session’. It was incredible. There were so many many reasons I voted for POTUS Trump. Since his election, he has completely taken me by surprise with his actions. He is even more perfect than my wildest dreams. Be thankful you are living in this era. This man will be the greatest American President. Ever.

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    • ForGodandCountry says:

      Can anyone else see the amazing changes taking place WITHIN Donald Trump before/after he became POTUS? “Better and better” is an understatement.

      I know it sounds cliche, but….this is not the same man who ran for this office. He is being transformed before our eyes.

      It is astonishing to watch. The complete opposite of Zero, who got worse and worse.

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      • NC PATRIOT says:

        I could see him change as the campaign went on. He began to realize it was not about him—-it was about US and the COUNTRY. and it became more evident as he went on. Then there were the preachers who prayed over him publicly. Now he never gives a speech without mentioning GOD.

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  42. Mlw says:

    What this kid did was atrocious, there is no sugar coating it..but my question is how many of these kids treated this kid like he was beneath them? Was he picked on, bullied, laughed at, denigrated? The answer to that question in my mind is a resounding YES! It is not the responsibility of the government to raise your children it was the responsibility of his parents, guardians, whomever was an adult in his life. I have 3 children and I’m telling you I taught my kids in kindergarten that you treat everyone with dignity and respect..PERIOD! Again what this kid did is beyond the pale but I can almost guarantee he was tortured throughout his school career until it became too much for him and he adopted a persona that helped him get through life. Not everyone is strong willed and can ignore being beaten down by possibly everyone around him. It’s strange I’m certain that I am even remotely defending this kid, not his actions, for those were horrifying…but his attorney was correct when she said he is a broken boy!! Where were the teachers when this kid needed defending back in grade school? It’s this crap that enrages me, I don’t believe in bullying as a term nor a defense but I’d bet you dollars to donuts this boy was decimated and everyone turned their heads, how do you FIX THAT?

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    • Risa says:

      This school draws from a very affluent, very Dem area. Trust me, there is nothing more capable of cruelty than a Leftist with money. Especially the spoiled kids.

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    • Lucille says:

      With sincere respect, Mlw, there is no evidence Cruz was bullied in grammar school, though it could be true, of course. There is much evidence, however, of his mental illness. That’s where our emphasis should be–on mental health issues at whatever age they manifest. Bullying would not be the precipitating cause in turning a child into a seriously disturbed criminal, though it might be a tipping point for an already ill child. As other students have indicated, Cruz tortured animals and assaulted people and his fellow students tried to avoid his wrath. So, IMO, bullying played little or no role in Cruz becoming a mass murderer.

      A number of years ago the “rights of the mentally ill” to remain mentally ill took precedence over mandatory institutionalization for those with serious problems like this boy. Once an ill person is beyond a certain age in most states, he can simply refuse to be examined, helped, institutionalized, or controlled by family. Even prior to that age, the parents may have their hands tied with no legal recourse. Thus the 30+ calls to police by Cruz’s mother and then nothing being done for the boy other than some totally inadequate “counseling.”

      Before Leftist “rights” groups took over the mental health sector, California had one of the finest hospital systems in the world for the mentally ill and developmentally disabled. Governor Reagan unwittingly played right into the Left’s hands as he closed a number of hospitals in favor of locally-based out-patient facilities (a fine idea but there was a totally inadequate number of such facilities). Patients were then put out onto the streets, creating many of the problems we still face today.

      For all the talk from government and groups like the ACLU about wishing to help those with mental problems, real actions have generally been a farce, helping a minuscule amount of the needy populace. Let us hope and pray that President Trump will find a way to correct all that.

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  43. sunnydaze says:

    Trump’s Listening Session and MOST of the participants in it give me a LOT of hope that a solution *can* and *will* be found.

    Now I’m gonna try to watch the CNN show.

    I suspect it will be completely empty of any REAL solutions.

    Let’s see how long I can stand it.

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  44. covfefe999 says:

    I am not offended at all by armed guards in schools or practicing for the worst. I’m sure some of you reading this evening remember what it was like to be under threat of nuclear war. I didn’t have to go through drills but I’ll never forget the fallout shelter signs. It’s the reality of the world, there are some people who want to kill. This is not a new concept and we shouldn’t be offended by doing what is necessary to be prepared.

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  45. sunnydaze says:

    Armed security is needed, IMO.

    Just knowing they are there will stop a lot of this madness.

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  46. Kathleen Rady says:

    Where is the “listening session” for the hundreds of thousands of young people in our inner cities who are gunned down ever day, week, month, year in this country?? Inner cities with the strictest gun laws in the country. Why is it that they use incidents where the victims are majority white to drum up the politicized emotion. It is disgustingly apparent their goals but most people will miss it. It is disgustingly racist to care this much for only white kids that get killed by guns. Google pictures of the children who are gunned down in Chicago-because the MSM remain mum about these precious victims.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Rahm Emanuel is more concerned about providing shelter for illegals. He couldn’t care less about the 50+ people, mostly black, who were shot and killed so far this year.

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    • HMelville says:

      There were a few speakers talking about schools in areas like this. There were a few articulate African Americans discussing their kids or student’s experiences in violent areas although this not a racial issue as most or all of the mass killers were white.

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      • Lumina says:

        That was what was so inspiring about this listening session, it included others, not just the recent issue. The father that lost his son coming home from an afterschool activity was a real heart tug. The violence was senseless and a child with dreams killed. It also listened to all views….

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    • The African American young woman who spoke was one of the best students who spoke. She lives and goes to school where there is violence all around her. She said they have to have their bags checked before they can get into school and at first everyone said they didn’t like it, but now they realized it makes them safe.

      Also, the AA man talking about his son being shot on the way home, was also very good. Well, the AA have the experience to know what works. They definitely should be involved. Also, AA are not going to give up their guns. These people have regular experience with violence; they speak from a more knowledgeable base than the kids who just now have experienced this for the first time. Also, I noticed that the AA are focused on protection and safety, while whites are focused on mental health, therapy, etc. Interesting…

      It’s really nice that abc carried this and the conversation after was pretty good…

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  47. HMelville says:

    I already watched this on You Tube and I hoped and thought that CTH would include it on their site as they usually include the most relevant videos. Sundance’s opening remarks about the video were spot on as usual.

    I still believe that this time is different for some inexplicable reason. Maybe it’s because it’s not that long after the Vegas massacre. There have been many massacred kids in the past and only talk usually followed. Reasonable and sensible changes can be made to optimally protect school children (like other gov’t facilities) while still preserving the 2nd Amendment that allows Americans to defend themselves.

    Even though Trump’s Presidency has enraged the left, I think a slight majority of Americans believe that Trump is the only POTUS that can deal with the most complex and divisive issues in America like the immigration mess and this compelling school massacre situation. The Dems believe it as well and are in panic mode. Expect the racist slurs and lies about an unhinged Trump to intensify once again.

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    • sunnydaze says:

      It’s different this time because we have a President Trump who has decided to fully wrap his hands around it.

      And he just brought a whole lot of like-minded serious people on board today with that Listening Session.

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      • HMelville says:

        There is that! It is certainly a major reason but as deaths pile up and massacres add up, a saturation point is usually reached.

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  48. the phoenix says:

    Ollie Matthews, who has a YouTube channel called The Narcissistic Resistance, has done a brilliant video on this topic called “Parkland Proves We Need F.B.I. Control, Not Gun Control.”

    The reason why I’m not posting a direct link is because there is at least one swear word in the video. That said, Ollie Matthews is a Trump supporter, and if you can get past a little bit of rough language, I think his video is well worth watching. His channel is in my opinion well worth Googling.

    While Ollie’s channel was started to deal with narcissism in interpersonal relationships, he also deals with societal narcissism.

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  49. Have Gun Will Travel says:

    We are seeing a President demonstrate real leadership. He has taken charge of the issue and is proposing the type of measures that will actually have an effect on reducing school shootings. I believe he is doing this because it’s the right thing to do, but he is also simultaneously tugging on the “rug” of gun control that the left/dems stand upon to divide the populace, incite their base, and use as a bludgeon in the mid-term elections.

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  50. theresanne says:

    The biggest promoter of gun violence is Hollywood. Watch any episode of The Blacklist and you’ll think guns are cool. You’ll also find out the politically correct view of social justice issues from global warming to wage inequality. They should sit down and shut up when it comes to gun violence in the schools. They are a large part of the problem.

    You have to hand it to President Trump. He brings people together and listens to them. I believe he will take this issue to heart and work on real solutions.

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