Update: Broward County Florida School Shooting – Multiple Victims – Marjory Stoneman Douglas High…

Broward County Florida Sheriff’s Office confirmed they have a suspect in custody in connection to a school shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High in Parkland, a suburb of Fort Lauderdale, that may have injured as many as 20 to 40 people.  Broward County public schools twitter feed here. Broward Sheriff twitter feed here.

The shooter was described as wearing a black hat, a maroon or burgundy colored shirt and black pants.  Gateway Pundit is identifying the shooter as “Nicholas de Jesus Cruz”, possibly a former student, 5′-8″. Miami Herald reports:

  According to law enforcement sources, the shooter, former student Nicolas de Jesus Cruz, is in custody. Helicopter footage shortly before 4 showed police frisking a handcuffed young man outside a squad car. Dressed in a maroon shirt and dark trousers, he was placed in the squad car as TV choppers filmed the scene. He gave no visible sign of being injured, but authorities have said Cruz was transported to Broward Health North.

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

“We were told last year that he wasn’t allowed on campus with a backpack on him,” said math teacher Jim Gard, who said the former student suspected in the shootings had been in his class last year. “There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus.” (more)

Police have notified area hospitals they will receive patients as a result of the shooting. The conditions of the victims were not clear, though Sen. Bill Nelson told FOX News there were “many deaths” at the school.

Parkland is a Fort Lauderdale suburb of 30,000 people just east of the Everglades. The National Council on Home Safety and Security recently placed the city on its list of the 10 safest cities in Florida.  President Donald Trump tweeted his condolences to the victims this afternoon.

 

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1,089 Responses to Update: Broward County Florida School Shooting – Multiple Victims – Marjory Stoneman Douglas High…

  1. zephyrbreeze says:

    Wasn’t anyone monitoring his instagram account after he made threats? Why not?

    New law proposal that schools have to disclose if there are or ever have been threats against students and that school. Ever. Parents should have total information to decide the best interests of their children.

    If we have to disclose dry rot when selling a house, schools should have to disclose any threats, and detail the precautions they’ve taken.

    “not allow him on campus with a backpack?” How about a gun?

    Imbeciles.

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  2. Stormyeyes says:

    He was Antifa

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  3. Blase Bauer says:

    Admin someone please research this But this is really freaky on February 15th 2017 Republicans in Florida proposed legislation SB 908 which would have eliminated gun-free zones including K through 12 schools. My understanding is are friendly Democrat liberals blocked it it died in committee and thanks to them there was no one with a gun today to shoot back f****** bastards

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  4. hellinahandbasket says:

    The Deinstitutionalization of America. The nationwide closing and de-institutionalization of the insane since the late 1950’s, and most drastically throughout the 1970’s until institutions were ALL closed (except for a very, very limited number in comparison to the population), which forced legitimate mentally unstable members of society from these institutions, and placed them into society un-tethered.

    The result of what we see throughout society. Heck, the Lunatic-Left are rioting, mobbing, clamoring on and on about their dysfunctional hatred, complete swaths of society banding together to “grieve” over an election, an entire political base is in distress.

    We have mobs or blacks rioting in malls (this past Christmas TWELVE malls across the nation had upward of ONE THOUSAND black youth storming malls, beating each other, rampaging and terrorizing everyone there – a few of them had to shutdown to control the situation.

    FRONTLINE investigation/documentation 1997:
    “…On any given day in 1994, approximately 763,391 severely mentally ill people are living in the community today who would have been hospitalized 40 years ago. That number is more than the population of Baltimore or San Francisco…”

    This article is TWENTY years ago (article linked below, by FRONTLINE 1997).
    At today’s population rate, we’re potentially looking at TWO MILLION mentally ill on the streets, in our schools, our places of work (in the voting booth…ha), and THEY ARE BREEDING like rabbits!
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/asylums/special/excerpt.html

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    • Jenny R. says:

      A very big part of the problem was just how those institutions were treating the inmates — and that had more to do with the mentally handicapped (which I’m fairly sure this person was not). Part of the problem that our society is having now is due to certain groups taking advantage of legislation that was enacted in order to protect the mentally handicapped from said institutions…which we were just fine with until we got our noses shoved into it (and we deserved it quite richly).
      Now, we did have institutions for the criminally insane — but they usually have to do something in order to be diagnosed as criminally insane, even back then.

      I’m thinking this guy didn’t blip on anybody’s radar except for the school…and they did nothing about it. He should have blipped on the police radar, but if nobody from that school reported any of his behavior to the police and nobody in his family either (or if so, the police swept it under the rug) and nobody from his social media platforms reported anything (and there is some conjecture that some things were out there on some platforms) or that got swept under then yeah, anybody who could have done something about this wasn’t given the head’s up (and if the cops turned a blind eye, then no hope).
      I’m inclined to agree with Wictor: this fellow wanted to be famous, so he did this.

      Although on his Instagram account (or the purported one) there’s a poster that keeps posting the same message: “bees knees”…over and over….odd phrase (some younger people use it to mean “business” with allusions to the older meaning now, but it isn’t all that popular I don’t think) might be worth checking out as it’s so out of place appearing.

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  5. tgmccoy says:

    A”Known wolf” did everything but howl at the moon. The Sheep (the school district.)
    did nothing but keep the sheepdogs out…

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    • TreeperInTraining says:

      Its pretty typical of mass shootings these days…whether it involves homeland security or the principal’s office. They all play ostrich while the shooter is openly known and planning.

      Except in vegas…..ahem.

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  6. Pam says:

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  7. gda says:

    The SPLC has blood on its hands (along with Broward Country).

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  8. zephyrbreeze says:

    Those poor kids just sat there, just like they were trained to do – wrongly so.

    People should move, move, more. Movement is life.

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  9. Whitehouse Clown says:

    School officials, law enforcement and mental health officials knew Cruz was dangerous and unstable but did nothing. But none will be held accountable.

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    • booger71 says:

      Law enforcement may not have known if the school never reported he was kicked out of school for threats.

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      • farmhand1927 says:

        What abt his social media? Doesn’t google and facebook and the rest spy on customers and kick conservatives off their accounts when they post something pro conservative? Why aren’t those organizations responsible for allowing someone like this to post photos, etc., unchecked?

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    • rf121 says:

      Well it is a dilema. Do we want to be in a situation like the movie Minority Report where we arrest people ahead of the crime we believe they are going to committ? But there needs to be some response when all the bells and whistles are going off.

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      • Deb says:

        This is where family comes in. It used to be the family would eith r get the person help or do whatever needed to be done for them so they wouldn’t become a threat to society.

        Again, where are the parents?

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        • Mary Wilson says:

          Compliments of the civil rights laws of the 70s, you can’t just put someone in mental health care, either in- or out-patient. They can’t be compelled to take medications, nor can they be compelled to submit to any other sort of treatment. Once he turned 18, there was nothing the parents could do.

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  10. Pam says:

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  11. Harry Lime says:

    I don’t see any point in having a trial. I’m sure he was just shooting at sea lions.

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  12. Pam says:

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  13. Oldskool says:

    Isn’t it amazing how a tragic event occurs around a major news event adverse to the dems? Probably worth investigating the whereabouts of Scott Foval and Robert Creamer leading up to all these events, remember them from the Project Veritas videos?

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  14. Had anyone intervened in this boy’s madness early on would have been deemed a racist.

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  15. SOLUTION for DEBATE:

    Why not put GRANDPARENTS in the CLASSROOM … as well as the LUNCHROOM & HALLWAYS between classes.
    • They’ve got the interest, the experience and the time.
    • They’d volunteer and/or be nominally compensated/fed at breakfast/lunch.
    • They’d witness disruptions & melevolence & bullying that authorities must address.
    • They’d mentor & instill values through day-to-day interactions before things go bad.

    Why the hell not?
    • They’d recognize SJW teaching.
    • They’d identify incompetent teachers.
    • They’d report Principals who fail to maintain discipline and respect.

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  16. Gmandet17 says:

    Always follow the money, guns ain’t cheap. Where are the parents?

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    • booger71 says:

      This city seems to be upper middle class for the most part according to many local newscasters, so money was probably not a factor, but lack of parental monitoring seems to be a common theme throughout all the classes.

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      • flova says:

        Columbine shooters were also upper middle class with guns in their garage and their bedrooms. NEVER do we find out where the eff the parents were while the kids were amassing an arsenal. And this school district’s superintendent if you look him up is all about diversity and not safety!

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    • Someone said news reporting is that “friends” gave him the weapons. It’s up thread (or is it down thread?) – anyway, it’s later in time than your post.

      My suspicion is his “friends” have connections with nefarious instigators.

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  17. Concerned Virginian says:

    Can’t confirm whether or not these drills did happen today, but heard on Hannity’s radio show this afternoon a couple callers from that area in Florida saying there was a fire drill/active shooter drill AT THAT HIGH SCHOOL earlier today.

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    • zephyrbreeze says:

      I heard that someone also pulled the alarm while the shooter was there – possibly the shooter – so as kids streamed out of classrooms, he shot them.

      No one had thought of that possibility before?

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      • booger71 says:

        Take the manual fire alarms out. Let the smoke alarms and sprinkler systems do their job if there is a real fire.

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        • annieoakley says:

          They aren’t manual fire alarms. All of these alarms are electronically tied together and to a fire department. A sprinkler will only sprinkle if the the glass tube in each single sprinkler is broken. Smoke alarms only report to a computer panel, smoke or a problem in the circuit.

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          • booger71 says:

            Well from all reports, the shooter pulled a fire alarm…all I am saying is take away that possibility, and my smoke alarms are tied to my security system, and if they go off, my security company is notified of a fire, and they call me if they go off. If I don’t answer they notify the fire department, and yes sprinkler systems are engaged by heat that break the glass cylinders.

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            • joshua says:

              sorry, but kids pull the fire alarms constantly as pranks….especially when they are changing classes and are gone away before the alarm starts up and they cannot be caught. you have no idea how difficult it is to manage the kids and visitors coming in and out, as well as vendors, postal and delivery workers, security delivery, and various folks from organizations not connected with the school districts. teachers are not constituted normally to be gun carriers, nor to use one in defense or to shoot some kid that is attacking a class. the school resourse officers, the campus cops, are armed and trained to diffuse conflicts, not to just shoot intruders….that RARELY happens. all this crap, especially by Hannity, is insane to arm everyone and militarize the hall ways. we have backpack searches on student entry, id picture badges, class roster and attendance, clear hallways during class time with hall passes and monitors to know who is in the hallways, and yet kids still figure out how to find an open door to go and come or let their friends in outside of the security portals. the public has NO IDEA how a school actually operates, and the issues faced every day there. simple crap like banning guns or arming teachers or bringing in retired LED or military folks is STUPID and would never work.

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    • booger71 says:

      Multiple news site have said there was some sort of drill earlier in the day.

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      • bofh says:

        Is my memory faulty, or do there seem to be a number of instances where some outrage like this follows very shortly after a “training drill”? I dunno – maybe I’m making it up?

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  18. jmuniz1 says:

    The Broward assistant police chief is a member of Cair so is the MAyor of Broward county.

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  19. youme says:

    When is an expulsion an expulsion?

    Broward County school expulsion policy:

    The expulsion shall commence with the date of the School Board’s final order or, in
    the case of a student with a disability, the date established by the IEP/504 Team.
    However, the term of exclusion from the regular school shall not exceed one
    calendar year from the date of the offense. Additionally, the expulsion shall be held
    in abeyance and the student shall be given the opportunity to participate in an
    established Expulsion Abeyance Program.
    If a student enrolls in an Expulsion Abeyance Program or in a program designated
    by the Superintendent and successfully completes the program, the expulsion shall
    not be documented on the student’s official transcript. The District student services
    substance abuse/expulsion case manager will facilitate the student’s re-entry into
    the regular school program, except where indicated otherwise in this policy. In the
    case of a student with a disability, return to a school placement may require action
    by the IEP/504 Team.

    http://www.broward.k12.fl.us/sbbcpolicies/docs/Policy%205.8%20Code%20of%20Student%20Conduct.pdf

    Expulsion Abeyance Program???

    Disability IEP/504 Team??? ( Cruz most likely raised on Adderral and SSRIs )

    It’s like the much hyped “students must pass an exit test to graduate. However, when you see the numerous waivers, there is no requirement to pass an exit test

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  20. Tejas Rob says:

    I went to high school in the ’70’s, when guns were much easier to get, I live in a rural type area so everyone had guns growing up, you’d see them in gun racks in pick-up trucks at my high school. But we had no school shootings in those days, anywhere.

    Why now? What has changed since those days? Find those answers and you find the problem.

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    • woohoowee says:

      Back then all the guys had pocket knives and guns in the rack, and nobody got stabbed or shot. Ever. The few who just wouldn’t act right were expelled in a timely manner and they could not come back.

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    • Rex70 says:

      Differences: A detachment from reality caused by “mood stabilizing” medication, by regular exposure to graphically violent video games, movies, t.v. shows, internet videos, and by parents who don’t demand their child evolve from throwing violent tantrums when facing difficulties in life.

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      • Esperanza says:

        I disagree about video games. They have the opposite effect in my opinion. They are much more moral than Hollywood movies. There are ALWAYS consequences for bad actions and rewards for good. You never lose sight of the fact it’s graphics. You choose your own path and are responsible. Movies ladle out just one, often perverted viewpoint, the director’s and Hollywierd ‘s. They actually teach a lot of good things like self reliance and work ethic. You EARN rewards by “working”.

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    • NebraskaFilly says:

      Parents are no longer allowed to discipline their children or they will be arrested and charged with child abuse; for that matter, most parents in their 30’s and 40’s don’t believe in discipline anyway. “Everyone gets a trophy mentality” is what caused this, as well as no consequences for their behavior. Again, all a part of the communist playbook.

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    • KimmyK says:

      Year’s ago, even if parents weren’t “religious” they still taught their kids MORALS and VALUES.
      Then you have all the graphic and violent video games (and movies) influencing young minds.
      Next, add the liberal SJW agenda being force fed in schools.
      Add a few other things I forgot…
      Which brings us to the mess we are at today.

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    • andyocoregon says:

      Now we have psychotropic drugs and extremely violent video games to affect young people. We didn’t have those influences in the 50’s and 60’s. And we didn’t have frequent school shootings.

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    • Tejas Rob says:

      >Differences: A detachment from reality caused by “mood stabilizing” medication, by regular exposure to graphically violent video games, movies, t.v. shows, internet videos, and by parents who don’t demand their child evolve from throwing violent tantrums when facing difficulties in life.Parents are no longer allowed to discipline their children or they will be arrested and charged with child abuse; for that matter, most parents in their 30’s and 40’s don’t believe in discipline anyway.Year’s ago, even if parents were’nt “religious” they still taught their kids MORALS and VALUES.<
      We are quickly becoming a godless society. Liberalism requires the denial of god and any christian teachings. When we let them remove prayers from school, we started the downward trend.

      All these things have led to the society we have today. It is not the one thing. It is the dismal tide.

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    • Zennalou says:

      Same here! Gun racks in the pick-up, guns at home. I think every boy most likely had a pocket knife in his pocket at school. Never one injury.

      —–What has changed since those days?—-I’ve asked that all afternoon, and many other times over the years.

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  21. You going to hear a lot of blame the gun, that’s the easy way out.
    It’s a lot more than that. You wouldn’t have these tragedies if our society still celebrated and encouraged nuclear families. Instead, you have progressives deliberately destroying those bonds. Homosexual marriage has made a mockery of marriage and reduced it to stupidity.
    From any lawyer in town you can get a divorce for 200 dollars. The government has aided in devolving mothers and fathers into meaningless roles. Thanks to government largess, having to work it out has lost its potential. People can get divorced over transitory feelings; they’re bored with their same partner day after day, and want to change their sexual appetite. The woman doesn’t feel the need to cherish when a father’s hard work can be replaced by a government check.
    In contemporary marriage, men have lost being respected and their responsibility has devolved into supporting purrs from pussyhats.
    Life is meaningless. Why do you think there’s such a high kill rate in the ghettos, kids know they could have been flushed away, for no other reason then things weren’t right that day.
    Life is cheap.

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  22. Katherine McCoun says:

    1) Horrific tragedy. As a parent, I can not imagine going through this. So much sadness and grief in me for the parents, siblings and friends of those lost, much less those injured.

    2) We need people control, not gun control.

    3) Until schools have armed guards and allow teachers to arm themselves the students are sitting ducks for crazies and evil ones.

    4) True story from Today: We (son and I) were in the heart of downtown Nashville for a musical performance and then we went to the War Memorial Museum. While driving through downtown, for the first time he noticed many buildings had “no gun” signs and he asked why they had them. I replied that these business &/or building owners did not want criminals bringing guns in to rob or hurt people. He then looked like just *had* to be joking, realized I was actually trying to explain their reasoning and then shook his head incredulously saying as only an 11 yr can, Ummm, that is pretty stupid! If someone is Already a Bad Guy they Don’t Care about a dumb ol’ sign! Robbing and murdering are Already breaking the law! Mom, that is sooo stupid. Are you Really serious? ….Yes, son, I am. I know…and I just had to shake my head that an 11 yr old can see the emperor is wearing no clothes.

    Then I came home and read this sickening, gut wrenching news. I would have posted this story anyway but I am almost stupefied at the idiocy of those in control of our schools and the parents who send their children to these schools that they do not demand change by demanding that the schools protect their children!

    It is obvious to my 11 yr old, and, I am sure, many other common sense, grounded 11 yr olds that signs on a door mean Nothing to a killer or other criminal. Why do parents allow their children to be sitting ducks and why do our educators not insist on having the ability to protect them!?!

    Please, PLEASE stop letting our nation’s precious children be sitting ducks to killers – whether deranged or just evil. Guard them as one would gold. They are even more valuable! I am sickened that our “leaders”, our educators and our fellow parents do not change the safety of our schools. It is stupefying that they let this happen in school after school and yet do not put armed guards at Every entrance and/or allow teachers to arm themselves to protect themselves and our National treasure, our Nations future – our children!

    Many will beg for More Laws to prevent this. There were numerous laws already in place that, had they been obeyed, would have prevented this crime. But laws on the books are not obeyed by criminals. It is up to us to bring common sense to the narrative.

    Tears for the parents for all involved in this tragedy.

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    • jbrickley says:

      Guns are rampant in the Philippines but all the schools public and private have armed guards as do the hotels and even the shopping malls where you have to go through a metal detector to enter. They have both a male and female guard at every mall entrance. You step through a metal detector, they wand you and search your bag, backpack, etc. This and the country is fundamentally poor. Even the far our rural elementary schools have armed guards. There are real Communist Gorilla’s, Islamic Terrorists and Separatists, Gangs, etc. It is fairly common for these groups to kidnap for profit.

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      • AM says:

        Sounds…great? Not an argument for gun control by the way, just a depressing state of affairs.

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        • Kaco says:

          Indeed, it is. Our society is so sick, we will never get back to the days when we had an open and free society like when I was in school in the 70’s and 80’s. Even my kid tonight said he wishes he was born in my generation when life was much different before shooters and jihadis.

          BTW, I just heard a testimony on Laura Ingraham’s show that the security guard was the first one shot at the school. My husband had just remarked earlier how security guards are not the answer either, the staff needs to be armed or trained as the shooter goes for the security guard first. What a world we’re living in.

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  23. Proud American from Texas says:

    We didn’t even consider this kind of crap where I grew up. We had strict discipline in school and no BS type teachers. Was a small school and small town where I grew up. A couple of malcontents in the town, but everybody knew who they were.
    On Sundays, town was super quiet because most everybody was in church. People may not have voted for whomever was President, but it was truly country first. And our country was America!

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    • JoD says:

      Back in the “old days”, the big scandal at my school was a boy who was suspended for a few weeks because he brought a can of beer to school.
      Different world.

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      • booger71 says:

        Crap..in my senior year many of us had beer in our coolers that we would go out and drink a couple of beers and smoke some cigs for lunch.

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        • Tejas Rob says:

          My high school had a smoking area for students.

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          • booger71 says:

            They got rid of ours right before I entered 9th grade, but the teachers all knew we went out to our cars to smoke and a few probably knew we had a couple of beers too, and I imagine we sometimes smelled like a brewery even after drowning ourselves in English Leather before we came back in. It was a simpler time

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            • Kaco says:

              My high school did not have a smoking area for students but I know the JVS did, they also had a pop machine which the high school didn’t either.

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          • Ackman420 says:

            Mine too.
            True story: The last day of my senior year I blew up my locker and 3 others with an M1000. I went and hid in autoshop (which aren’t around anymore either). At graduation that night, the principle ask d me if I knew anything about the explosion. Being a troublemaker, he had me pegged as the culprit. I denied it.
            Nobody was hurt. No cops. No FBI. No terrorism. No problem.

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    • Kaco says:

      Even the “hoods” would take their fights off the school grounds after school. Everyone was civilized. Any disruption of sorts, they got the “board” (paddle), if not detention or such.

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  24. jbrickley says:

    I know of a private school in a deep blue state that implemented the following. This is common sense. But it works because the school is so small. They evaluated the schools perimeter defenses and how best to provide the best protection.

    1. They installed exterior cameras and cameras in the hallways and in the classrooms.
    2. They replaced exterior doors to be reinforced steel with heavy duty strike plates and locks, no one will breach these doors easily.
    3. Once school is in session, these doors are locked and you must ring the buzzer and talk into the camera, intercom. You are not allowed in unless you have official business with the school or are a parent. People know each other around here.
    4. The main entrance leads to the school office and a second set of doors leading to the classrooms is locked with the same steel reinforced doors. These require proximity badge access to open only for staff all visitors must be escorted.
    5. All exterior doors are locked during school hours. But only one way, if there was a fire they can be opened from inside. When the doors are opened an alarm trips and the office is alerted and they can see whats happening on the cameras. Staff can badge swipe to override the alarm and re-enter the building.
    6. All teachers have cell phones with access to building cameras via a teacher app and they have a built-in alert system on the App but also via an in class intercom. This allows them to see the hallway in real time and to communicate with other staff in a crisis. The hall cameras are intentionally hidden from view it’s not easy to spot the cameras unless you know what to look for.
    7. The classroom doors are reinforced steel with resistant glass and in a lockdown scenario are auto-locked but only from outside. The closets in each classroom are located to hide the children and provide cover, it is not visible from the classroom door. Each closet has a Mossberg tactical locked in a rack that includes a trigger lock yet is designed to be grabbed quickly and keep it safe otherwise. Teachers are all NRA trained in use of the firearm and required to qualify annually as well as practice frequently. No permit required. They all get together and go to the range. A few women with permits gently encouraged the others and they actually have a blast. Once they are comfortable it’s fun to practice.
    8. Lockdown drills are run for students and faculty four times a year.
    9. Half the staff have concealed carry and several are the church ushers who guard the church during services. Half of them are former law enforcement or retired military. These all practice bi-weekly or more often at a range. Heck, they get a discount at the range as a result.
    10. There is tactical response training for the faculty quarterly. Self-defense, what to do, how to react, etc. In the event of a lockdown the police are notified, staff can provide detailed information to the officers and can watch the perpetrator real time. If they have to engage they will do so but they will avoid it unless absolutely necessary.
    11. If that’s not enough the pastor’s got a 150 pound Eastern European German Sheppard who sleeps in his office. The dog is an actual retired police dog.

    They didn’t even need to spend much money, the church members kicked in and helped with various expertise and skills. Much of the work was done by church members themselves.

    Granted this is a lot harder to do with a sprawling enormous campus for 3,000. But how any school or church for that matter not take the threat seriously and have some sort of plan and beefed up security is beyond me.

    All this from a Godly peach loving church who is not foolish. The Devil roams about like a roaring lion seeking whom to devour. Predators are real. Monsters are real. These teachers are all prepared and determined to fight back to protect these kids. No way is an event like this going to occur on these grounds to our children or our parishioners during worship or any church activity.

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    • jbrickley says:

      Ha, “peach loving” as much as we like our fruit, it was supposed to peace loving.

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    • jbrickley says:

      Evaluate and move doesn’t apply in this particular small school. The best choice is to shelter in place and defend.

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    • Blacksmith8 says:

      They put their treasure where their hearts are: Those children come first, then the school, then the church and the rest of the neighborhood.

      I wish the school where my children was similar. And kowing the parents of the children, it’s not a money problem.

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    • AM says:

      So…in other words, to protect the children from the crazies, we put the children and teachers in prison. Heaven help us.

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      • AM says:

        PS – Just so this isn’t misunderstod, it was an initial reaction to imagining this environment. I’m glad the children are protected and armed teachers are good. But it’s still sad in a way.

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        • Kaco says:

          I’m with you again, I can’t stand this prison school system. I don’t know what the answer is as we didn’t have this problem when I was in school. But it’s very depressing we have to live under such surveillance and lock down because of how sick our society is. “Part and parcel”

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      • Esperanza says:

        This is logical. There will always be walls. Because the borders are wide open, we need gated communities. In towns you need reinforced doors. Because crazy people are out and unsupervised you need prison schools. Are they telling us this young person was capable of regulating his own life?

        Society is putting its walls in totally the wrong place. More and more the sheep are open bar, but the jackals roam free. Control the jackals and let the sheep roam free.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      Very impressive. I am going to forward this to my pastor. We are a large church with a lot of uniformed and under cover LE. We have many kids. I think he will very much appreciate reading this. Thank yu for taking the time to write it.

      I’ll leave the peach in since we’re in GA!

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    • piper567 says:

      wow j, that’s an impressive plan.
      very nice.

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  25. So, I’m guessing we have a mentally ill patient who was taken advantage of by ANTIFA? If true, why are the ANTIFA workshops being held in church community centers not being shutdown? They were teaching Molotov cocktail making last summer at one church and openly bragged about it on the Internet!

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  26. Blaze says:

    Student on Tucker….”we automatically went and hid” then she said they hid under desks and said this is how she was trained. Seriously train your kids never to shelter and MOVE as far as possible from the situation.

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    • zephyrbreeze says:

      Move and evaluated, move, and evaluate, move, move, move. Those poor kids were trained to be sitting ducks. One teacher proudly said she hid 19 students in a closet. Idiot.

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    • James W Crawford says:

      Watching how the kids were evacuated suggests that just running puts you at risk of being shot by the police. Many people fleeing the shooting at Clackamas Town Center were confronted at gun point by police. Police even blocked some exits. Although the mall was literally across the parking lot from the Clackamas County Sheriffs office, they took time to bring in their mobile command post before entering the mall.

      Fortunately; the perp suicided after being confronted by a citizen with a Concealed Weapons Permit.

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  27. nigella says:

    Do we really know anything about this monster? Gateway pundit has been called out as lying.. What’s the real story?

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  28. It’s a shame what happened. Did the school have an officer on site? Scarry the shooter picked a school and felt safe going there to kill what appeared to be sitting ducks.

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  29. Didn’t WE ALL “speculate” Late last week to be on the “lookout” for, (I don’t want to say this)..
    Another Mass Shooting, or False Flag?
    Notice how ALL other Important News has stopped on a dime?

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  30. jbrickley says:

    We will learn more if the media doesn’t sweep it under the rug in a firearm control fury. Ok, the warning signs. Behavior and psyche issues. Threats made in school and Lord knows how many internal transgressions before they expelled him. They were already not going to allow him in with a backpack before they expelled him. That implies a fear of concealed weapons. Why not report him to the police, file a restraining order? That should hopefully trigger a police inquiry into his firearm permits. If things worked properly, the police should have revoked his permits and showed up on his doorstep to confiscate his firearms. What about social media? Clearly the school looks at that right? He was posting some seriously troubling things online. If not, then why didn’t someone notice the signs? What about his parents? He’s got a closet full of multiple rifles, shotgun, handguns, knives. Oh, boys will be boys! I know it’s Florida but come on!

    I will defend the 2nd amendment but when you dress up like ANTIFA and pose with your firearms in a threatening manner online, that’s gotta raise a red flag which should lead to other red flags, etc. You make threats to anyone you shouldn’t be carrying.

    I will make an educated guess, he was upset with some girl who still attended the school. It is Valentines day after all. Or maybe he just wanted a bloody valentine massacre.

    So anyone could just walk up to one of many external entrances on this campus and waltz right into the building? It was near dismissal so maybe he tailgated a doorway. How can you operate a school without some kind of security in place?

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  31. covfefe999 says:

    Sorry if I’m repeating myself, I don’t know if I screwed up when posting this or went into the spam bin. Is it possible this it the guy’s mother? Look at the caption of the photo. She was from Parkland. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/lynda-cruz-obituary?pid=187176765&view=guestbook

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  32. MaineCoon says:

    Everyone knows that Broward County is:

    1. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s county

    2. County in which the dead prosecutor’s body washed up on the beach last summer

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article166516317.html

    This just came to my mind. What’s going on down there…

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  33. James W Crawford says:

    We can thank Treyvon Martin.

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  34. covfefe999 says:

    Oh. My post with the obituary went to the spam bin, I thought I had found the obituary of his mom, she died on Nov 1 2017. Then I read a news story that indeed that’s her and his father is dead too. He’s only 19 and lost both of his parents. Not excusing his actions but dang that’s traumatic to lose your parents.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Mother was Lynda. Father was Roger. I don’t feel like I’m doxing as they are both deceased.

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        • d2i says:

          So dad died. Mom dies last year. Kid is expelled from school last year. Where was his extended family? He’s adopted. And what about his little brother? My god man, that younger brother’s head must be spinning.

          Not to make excuses, but losing both parents then being kicked out of school in a short period of time is a lot of trauma to deal with if you’re a kid who’s emotionally unstable. Hell, emotionally stable people have great difficulty with so much loss.

          Do they go out and shoot up a school full of kids? Gosh no. Fragile youth do some crazy chit though, especially when lacking familial support and an inability and/or maturity to process emotions. I wonder what his mom and dad died from.

          A guest on Hannity tonight said his Instagram account had pic’s of dead animals on it? Anybody out there verify this?

          Such a loss. Such a tragedy. Utterly senseless…

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  35. Blacksmith8 says:

    I heard hannity while driving, he just will not talk about gun control, he says it’s not about that at all, it’s about keeping our children safe.

    You want safe sean? Do you? Learn to use a gun, teach others, and stop with the namby pamby wait for the state to do something. That’s dhim/lib/prog thinking.

    You want safe? Make it safe. You do it.

    Be bold and great and powerful forces will come to your aid.

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  36. Johnny says:

    Funny how these conglomerates like Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, Instagram, and the list goes.
    My point is they can make a profile of every user on their company sites, so they can bombard you with advertisements from every web site you visit. They steal every piece of information about your lives and can predict what you will do day to day. This son of bi%ch posted threats on his site, but did you see his web site account being forwarded to the police? Just google your email address and you will be shocked how much information these companies have that never dreamed would be out in the public, your families names addresses, phone numbers, any post they have made and so on.
    The problem is our government has not done one thing about any of this because they also use all that info to spy on everyone of us.
    Will all this available, this was not reported, and it did not stop this ANTIFA attack from happening.

    I make a pledge here today. As a MAN, I will not turn my back anymore when a communist liberal is talking about how the government needs to do more to stop this from happening. I swear I will stop in my tracks and get in the face of these communist and tell them to cease with their spewing of propaganda.
    I ask all MEN of this country to stand up and start taking back control of this country. Please do not allow the propaganda spewers to go unchecked. Let’s get in their faces and tell them it stops now.
    Stand with me and let us start screaming and demanding just like the illegals do. Let us scream to them in government and say stop the spying on all the citizens of America. We the people need to take control of this debacle or our United States of America will fall.

    FACT.
    Now it is up to 17 people killed.
    Some of these CHILDREN died because our government COMMANDS that our children hide and wait for the government to come rescue them.
    Children were texting their families and saying they could here the shots coming closer, but our GOVERNMENT COMMANDS that you can not come to the aid of your scared and crying child.
    They herded these children into a kill box, and FORCED them to wait for the killing to reach them.

    I want every adult at a school armed and ready for anything like this. Heaven forbid if this happens again, I pray to see broken windows and broken doors were our children and grand children have ability to decide to flee from the sound of the gunfire not have to wait to be a victim, because a communist liberal in Government DEMANDS that they shelter.

    The INSANITY must be stopped. It is our job to protect our children. DEMAND that the government get OUT of our lives.

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    • scott467 says:

      I agree with most of what you said. I don’t think every adult at a school will ever be armed and prepared for something like this, but our schools shouldn’t have to be fortresses or the equivalent of maximum security prisons in the first place.

      They weren’t when I was a kid, so what has changed since then that has led to this situation?

      Figure that out, and undo it.

      It starts with hunting down political-correctness wherever you find it, and destroying it with extreme prejudice.

      Until that happens, most people will remain afraid to speak honestly about anything. And without honest (non politically correct) examination of how we got here, of what has gone so horribly wrong and why, nothing will ever change.

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      • Kaco says:

        It would be nice to bring back the Hays code and apply it to all entertainment.

        http://www.artsreformation.com/a001/hays-code.html

        “If motion pictures present stories that will affect lives for the better, they can become the most powerful force for the improvement of mankind

        They recognize their responsibility to the public because of this trust and because entertainment and art are important influences in the life of a nation.”

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        • Deb says:

          I wrote a term paper on the Hays Code in college. I was a film buff back then. The code was created at the behest of Catholic groups and other Christians who were concerned about the effect movies would have on morality. It was rolled back and replaced by the ratings system in the 1960’s. Since then the standards for said ratings continue to decline.

          The problem is, media is everywhere. The internet makes it impossible to police all of it. What we need to do is start raising decent human beings again, so they can handle life without lashing out at others.

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          • Kaco says:

            Yeah, and it seems people are very harsh nowadays, especially online.

            Anyway, it is more difficult when one is fighting against the wind, at least we had for the most part a decent society except for some fringe groups but the media was decent and Little House on the Prairie was on TV and not the trash today. But we must prepare the child for the path and not the path for the child. However, society stinks today, when they show Miley Cyrus on TV twerking among other things, you know it’s getting really bad.

            It doesn’t seem our overlords want to promote a healthy minded society as the globalists want to morally bankrupt western civilization.

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          • Esperanza says:

            It looks made the films better. They still told difficult stories, but had to make them subtle.

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  37. Pam says:

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  38. Watching this,, Has ANYONE seen parent interviews yet??????
    I haven’t, just talking heads, and a couple kids whom seem all to CALM…
    the one on Tucker looked like she was READING a script! seriously!

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  40. Pam says:

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  41. Boots says:

    Never hear a libtard Dem or RINO crud EVER speaking the truth:

    School shootings do not happen because AR15’s exist. Or Glocks exist. Or because guns exist period.

    School shootings are the result of loss of morality and spirituality in the United States, and an increasingly Godless society where the communists have infiltrated govt with the goal for govt to replace God. They’ve succeeded tremendously.

    Schools are vile pits of hell teaching Godless humanism. Democrats like Mad Maxine Waters, Dimwit Pelosi, Gropin’ Al Franken, Barack The Muslim King, et al have indoctrinated vulnerable, unstable kids into the “me first, eff everyone else” mindset. School and the medial say if it feels good do it. What used to be wrong is now right.

    Violent vid games and violent TV teaches kids that gun violence is okay. None of these kids has ever seen in person what a bullet does to the human body. They think shooting someone in the leg or arm is sorta like sorta like getting hit with a big pellet. They don’t know that lifelong paralysis or partial loss of use of that leg or arm is the likely effect, not to mention amputation.

    Gun violence and school shootings are the outward fruit of a sick, poisoned heart; which is what the communists have had in mind all along. Their message resonates with the natural inclinations of the unsaved. “The heart is deceitful above all else, and desperately wicked; who can understand it? I, The LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.”
    ~Jer 17:9-10~

    America is now getting “according to her ways” the bad results of spiritual apostasy.

    It will not get better. It may level off but won’t get better. The Book says so. And the Book ain’t never wrong.

    Now more than ever, each individual needs to cling to the Rock of their salvation and abide in the shadow of His wings.

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  42. Pam says:

    Tonight’s press briefing now underway!

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  44. John Adams says:

    I have no words that could possibly comfort these families. Like most of you I have strong feelings about todays mass murder of innocents, but I’m sure there will be other opportunities to express them.

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  45. joeknuckles says:

    I see upthread references to him being adopted and his parents being deceased. If he was a truobled kid who was in the foster care system, he would have almost certainly been on behavior modifying drugs at some point. Especially if he had ever been in a group home. I’ve seen what they do to “manage” kids in group homes. It’ll be interesting to get more background on him.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I saw the mother’s obituary (link above) and she’s holding baby Nikolas. So they adopted him when he was just a little baby. Mother just died in Nov 2017. Father a couple of years ago. So i don’t think he was in foster homes. I’m wondering if he was mentally ill, like Adam Lanza. Or like you suggest taking prescription drugs. It’s just tragic all around.

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  47. Leigh Banks says:

    At my daughter’s school we have an armed police officer and each teacher has a “kit” in class. I don’t know what all this kit contains but one thing is a strobe light to blind anyone walking in the door.

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