Puzzle Pieces – Former Asst. Sec of State Robert Charles Discusses the ‘FISA Review Court’ – May Explain Judge Ruben Contreras Recusal…

Former Assistant Secretary of State, Robert Charles, discusses the procedures and processes for gaining a FISA ‘Title-1’ surveillance warrant.   Within the discussion Mr. Charles outlines the FISA review court and a likely path the Carter Page application could have taken after an initial denial.

Additionally, Mr. Charles discusses the downstream ramifications when the U.S. Department of Justice secures a warrant by providing false and/or misleading information to the FISA court: “fruit of the poisonous tree”.


The explanation by the former ASoS might very well explain why Robert Mueller asked for a delay in the ongoing Mike Flynn sentencing; and simultaneously explain why Judge Ruben Contreras was recused from the case.

Against a newly discovered likelihood the Robert Mueller investigation began under false pretenses; and against the backdrop that FBI surveillance and wiretaps were obtained through materially (intentionally) false representations to the FISA court; and against the backdrop the original Flynn plea judge (Contreras) was also the approving FISA judge; and that judge ‘was summarily recused’ from the case; and against increasing evidence that Mike Flynn was set up by a terminal animus, and politically-motivated investigative rogue unit, operating within the FBI; and against surfacing IG Horowitz evidence that FBI investigators manipulated (lied on) their FD-302 interrogation documents; and understanding those falsified 302’s were used in the Mueller/Flynn charging document…

…Special Counsel Robert Mueller asked for postponement of sentencing:

(pdf link)

Both parties did not ‘request‘ a postponement; both parties ‘agreed‘ to a postponement. The motive for the request (Mueller) is entirely divergent from, yet complimentary to, the motive to agree to the request (Flynn).

This is all beginning to go backwards.

It is also not coincidental that Brandon L Van Grack is the signatory to the delay request by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s request to the new Judge, Emmet G Sullivan.

If, as has been reported, Inspector General Michael Horowitz now has evidence the FBI manipulated their FD-302 (interrogation and questioning) documents, as also admitted by FBI agent Peter Strzok in related matters regarding Clinton…

…. and those manipulated or falsified FBI 302’s (containing FBI investigative notes of Michael Flynn’s questioning during the January 2017 interview) were used in the actual Flynn charging documents, then Robert Mueller has a big problem.


Secondly, the underlying surveillance application evidence presented to the FISA court (June ’16 – denied, perhaps Ruben Contreras), and later resubmitted to a FISA review court (Oct ’16 – approved), became the basis for wiretap surveillance on Trump campaign officials.

The downstream consequence was the FBI interrogation of Michael Flynn.

As a direct result we end up at the December 1st 2017 plea hearing, again back to Judge Contreras although this time in his role as a U.S. District Court, only now the plea is based on evidence that was an outcome of materially misrepresented claims to Contreras (June ’16) when he was within his capacity as a FISC judge and initially denied the DOJ FISA “Title-1” application.

Due to the classification of FISC roles and responsibilities, Contreras would be incapable of discussing his concerns, or asking FISA related questions in open court, during his role as U.S. District Judge.

Hence, Contreras ‘was recused‘ from the Flynn case as an outcome of that initial FISA  hearing and his later notification to the FISA court of his concerns about the pleading he just judged with Michael Flynn.

With the IG exposing falsified and manipulative investigative practices by the FBI, Mueller would have no alternative but to throw the brakes on. This whole thing is turning into a sh*t-show of epic proportions. EARLIER WE DISCUSSED

Additionally, the Robert Mueller prosecuting lawyer, the Special Counsel attorney that signed General Flynn’s Statement of Offense filed in U.S, District Court 12/01/2017, was “Brandon L Van Grack”. [See page #5]

When Trump transition team lawyer Kory Langhofer (Trump for America transition organization) contacted the special counsel’s office about the illegal and unethical way they retrieved transition team emails from the GSA. Who was he put in contact with?


It was Brandon L Van Grack who was in communication w/ the Trump for America transition organization; and, according to the documents on this topic (attached), misrepresented (ie. lied about) the Special Counsel access to the GSA emails on 12/12/2017. (Pdf Link)

What reason would Van Grack have for taking the call from the transition attorney in the first place?… and then, what reason would he have for lying about the information that was requested?

It is my belief, based on mounting evidence, a specific cast of characters -within the Mueller “Russia Election Interference” probe- were placed there, specifically by former FBI chief legal counsel James Baker, to protect the people behind the FBI’s 2016/2017 counterintelligence operation against Trump.

I suspected, and ongoing evidence has confirmed, the same FBI and DOJ “small group”, the team who worked diligently to ensure Hillary Clinton was never found culpable in the 2015/2016 email investigation, later worked on the 2016 Trump counterintelligence operation (FISA wiretapping surveillance etc).

That same “small group” within the FBI and DOJ were then given the task in 2017 of covering both prior operations: A) *Clear Hillary Clinton, and B) *Counterintel op on Trump.

To cover, cloud and protect the DOJ and FBI officials engaged in both operations, the “small group” was then reassembled within Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel team as organized by James Baker.

Inside Mueller’s crew, the “small group” essentially works to watch over what information the Trump officials or congress could possibly be discovering…. under the auspices of investigating ‘Muh Russia’ etc.

If the “small group” comes across a risky trail being followed, they work to impede, block, delay or deflect anyone from that trail.  That is their purpose inside the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller probe.

That objective is why the Special Counsel attorney that signed General Flynn’s Statement of Offense filed Dec. 1, 2017, was the same attorney who responded to the Trump transition team inquiry. Brandon L Van Grack.

This “small group” are essentially around 20 career DOJ and FBI staff lawyers behind and beside the visible names we have recently become aware of. Including: Peter Strzok, Bruce Ohr, Lisa Page, Bill Priestap, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, James Comey, James Baker, David Laufner, Mike Kortan, Jim Rybicki, Trisha Beth Anderson, John P Carlin, Mary McCord, etc.

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408 Responses to Puzzle Pieces – Former Asst. Sec of State Robert Charles Discusses the ‘FISA Review Court’ – May Explain Judge Ruben Contreras Recusal…

  1. wheatietoo says:

    There’s a whole lot of the “fruit of the poisonous tree” lying around.

    It’s a very big Poisonous Tree.
    We’re gonna need some wheelbarrows and shovels, to clean up all that poisonous fruit.

    Liked by 33 people

  2. joshua says:

    mueller image

    Liked by 3 people

  3. NOTevenAtadPC4U says:

    I guess turn around is fair play: If the glove don’t fit, must acquit! Millions of dollars spent on Mueller and his henchmen (the ones that are left, for now) and ZERO to show for it. But so far 8 DOJ/FBI agents, have been rounded up, fired, quit, demoted or reassign to “call center duty”. Have to make another Popcorn Store run.

    Liked by 8 people

    • Publius2016 says:

      It’s all based on Impeachment…90% of Congress is RINOs Nevertrumpers Dems…they do it in a second if only they could…

      Liked by 7 people

      • Pam says:

        But they won’t because there is already too much more dirt to be dug up on these people. They know it’s only a matter of time before the hammer falls on many of them and they are getting desperate.

        Liked by 15 people

      • The President’s popularity is going up and more people believe he has been falsely accused; I think this makes it more difficult to impeach. What I wonder is, what do you call sedition and treason when half of the population supports it? Is that a revolution? It seems it started out with Trump being the revolutionary, and now the resistance has become the revolutionary…there is so much going on, it gets somewhat confusing. Thank God for Sundance; he helps a lot.

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        • G. Combs says:

          “…what do you call sedition and treason when half of the population supports it?…”

          You are falling for the Yellow Stream Media Gaslighting. The far left is actually small but very vocal and our side is muzzled by the Fifth Column Fourth Estate.

          CBS Polls from SOTU
          • 81% of Americans felt Trump was trying to unite the country, rather than divide it
          • 65% said speech made them feel proud
          • 72% favor Trump’s immigration proposal
          • 91% favor Trump’s infrastructure proposal
          • 75% favor Trump’s idea of national security
          — Jordan Cox (@jjordancox) February 3, 2018

          Liked by 14 people

          • Convert says:

            Yes! The Left is so unhinged, vicious, violent and vindictive that nobody challenges them on Facebook, for example.They rant to their little group of fellow wackos, totally oblivious to the fact that almost nobody else responds to their craziness. They have totally deluded themselves into thinking that it’s because everyone agrees with what is the obvious truth and brilliance and moral righteousness of everything they post, so people don’t even take the time to respond. Bwaahaa.

            Liked by 4 people

            • GB Bari says:

              If you try to challenge on Fakebook you have a high probability of being either banned or deleted, regardless of how polite or G-rated your writing may be. . Fakebook is not a place where the First Amendment is respected.


        • grandmaintexas says:

          Half the population does not support it. That is the lie the propaganda media has sold us.

          The Monster Vote overcame the cheating, lying pols, polls, and pundits.

          We are many.

          Liked by 13 people

        • terryjlongo says:

          Can a revolution be based on ignorance of half the population?


      • NC PATRIOT says:

        I don’t think the Senate would try him even if the House impeached, Reason—-even Senate Repubs who do not like our President would know they would be killing the party if they did that to their own President—-they would end the GOP.

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        • Winston says:

          To save their necks from the noose for crimes that few would believe right now.
          You bet your ass they would Impeach.80 % of both houses would hang if they were
          not torn apart first.Heinous crimes so far above graft and ordinary corruption that
          those may as well be parking tickets.


      • TheWanderingStar says:

        Might make for an interesting summer.


        • 🍺Gunny says:

          If they impeached our President, none of the Congress people would remain. The firestorm created would force everyone of them out.
          They could never show thei faces again.

          Liked by 1 person

    • Stormyeyes says:

      The Dems should have to fund raise all money spent on their witch hunt Would end the party for good

      Liked by 1 person

    • Kintbury54 says:

      As this was Hillary’s little game, let her pick up the tab.

      Liked by 2 people

  4. Publius2016 says:

    This goes further to the 7th Floor! They took down Steve Wynn…

    Liked by 5 people

    • Mr. Morris says:

      What really happened in Las Vegas? I don’t believe the Tale we were told about the shootings. The story we were told did not make sense. I think Steve Wynn may have had an inkling about what occurred. In my opinion Steve Wynn had to be eliminated from his namesake company because of this.

      Liked by 2 people

  5. John K Evans says:

    Can you clean this up so that the right column adverts do not overlay the text?

    Liked by 1 person

  6. Very informative interview by Robert Charles. Very good explanation of how a FISA warrant was first denied by a basically a bi-partisan panel of judges, but was approved later by an Appeals panel of 3 judges—all Clinton appointees!

    Liked by 17 people

    • MaineCoon says:

      It was a very good interview. He packed in a lot of information that was new and he was easy to follow for any viewers who are clueless on what’s happening.

      Liked by 1 person

  7. TrumpsterinPa says:

    The depths of the corruption is mind boggling and sickening.
    Good news, these treasonous operators are out in the sunlight. This Mueller thing is a charade of epic proportions. Good news, Trump has them by the you know what. Looking forward to the hammer meeting nail.

    Liked by 8 people

  8. Search Van Grack on the White House visitor log. Like Rain Man said: “There’s lots of them. Lot’s and lots of them.”

    Liked by 3 people

  9. ForGodandCountry says:

    Who are these “20 career DOJ and FBI staff lawyers” and, just as importantly, who are their spouses?

    Meet the all-star team of lawyers Robert Mueller has assembled for the Trump-Russia investigation




    Members of the team include:

    Zainab Ahmad: assistant United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, specializing in terrorism cases
    Greg Andres: former deputy assistant attorney general, managed foreign bribery division[31]
    Rush Atkinson: trial attorney in the DOJ fraud section[30]
    Peter Carr: team spokesman, a veteran DOJ spokesperson[32]
    Ryan K. Dickey: a veteran cyber prosecutor from the Justice Department’s computer crime and intellectual-property section[33]
    Brock W. Domin: FBI Special Agent.[34][35]
    Michael Dreeben: Deputy Solicitor General, who oversees the Justice Department’s criminal appellate docket; an expert in criminal law[36][28][30]
    Kyle Freeny: attorney for the money laundering unit at the Department of Justice[37]
    Andrew D. Goldstein: former leader of the public corruption unit, United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York[38][30]
    Adam Jed: Attorney in the DOJ Civil Division, appellate section[39]
    Robert Mueller: team leader; Special counsel for the United States Department of Justice
    Lisa C. Page (departed): DOJ trial attorney in the FBI’s Criminal Division Organized Crime Section; formerly an attorney in the office of the FBI general counsel.[29] Her departure from the team was reported in late September 2017.[40]
    Elizabeth Barchas Prelogar: Assistant with the Solicitor General’s office; fluent in Russian; former law clerk to Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan[41][30]
    James L. Quarles III: former assistant special prosecutor on the Watergate Special Prosecution Force[30]
    Jeannie S. Rhee: Partner at WilmerHale, specializing in white-collar crime; a former attorney in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel and Assistant United States Attorney for the District of Columbia[30]
    Peter Strzok (departed): a veteran counterintelligence investigator. He departed from the team in late July 2017, reportedly for exchanging anti-Trump and pro-Hillary Clinton text messages with a colleague prior to Mueller’s investigation.[42][43][44]
    Brandon Van Grack: United States Department of Justice National Security Division Prosecutor[30]
    Andrew Weissmann: Chief of the DOJ Criminal Division’s Fraud Section[22][30]
    Aaron Zebley: former chief of staff to Mueller at the FBI[30]
    Aaron S. J. Zelinsky: an attorney on detail from the United States Attorney for the District of Maryland[45][46]

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  10. It’s my opinion that the current plan is to have the left and media validate the Mueller investigation just prior to Mueller arresting those who in the previous days or who are currently defending his investigation as legitimate.


  11. fleporeblog says:

    Does Robert Mueller know what Van Grack was up to? Not completely sure he realizes that among his RATS 🐀 he has creatures that are far worse because their job is to protect the swamp and the future of the swamp.

    Liked by 5 people

    • 17CatsInTN says:

      I think that part of the reason for this loooonnnnnggggg wait to indict is to set up, reveal and expose as many of the swamp creatures as possible.

      People who have been revealed over the last 6-8 weeks are not of the small potatoes kind. They are top tier with only 1 or 2 levels above them–which means those top 2 will got caught in all these snares as well.

      I don’t think any of the people exposed thus far are actually rogue–the entire operation was calculated, planned and executed among them all. It means the net sweep is going to be huge and will include people we never thought we’d live to see indicted, convicted and put away.

      Liked by 11 people

    • kiskiminetas says:

      Mueller is a swamp rat so it would be only natural for him to choose anti-Trump deep- state swamp rats to be there with him. His SC investigation was to be a home run for the Dems and the deep state but it is going to ultimately backfire on them.

      Liked by 6 people

      • farrier105 says:

        The fact Mueller chose them exposes that he was in on it from the start. Remember: This is a “Small Group.” You keep using the same people to keep the real story compartmentalized. The problem was that these people are incompetent and arrogant, a dangerous combination, and Hillary lost. Hillary losing made their security problem more acute with Trump having access to all classified information.


    • Alison says:

      And/or their job is to protect their own fat rat asses!!

      That question re: ‘what does Mueller really know’ occurred to me while reading this latest, excellent iteration by Sundance. Did Mueller pick his team or did he get snookered by someone who recommended the ‘small group’. Sure Mueller looks tainted, or at least politically compromised, but the same rats keep appearing in every ‘confluence’.

      It makes me sick to see these court documents headed ‘United States v. Mike Flynn’.
      They should read ‘Deep State Swamp Rats v. USA’.

      Liked by 10 people

      • fleporeblog says:

        Thanks for the laugh Alison! Your right about what the title should be. However, let Generation Z share it with their kids and grandkids just the way it is so that the story during our President’s Incredible 8 years can show them exactly what he and our country was up against!

        As for Mueller,I still wonder how much he knew about all these criminal POS. Would it surprise anyone that he himself didn’t realize the extent of these creatures.

        The fact he met with our President, Rosenstein and Sessions the day before he was announced is hard for me to shake. He was interviewing for the FBI job. We can just imagine what the conversation was like.

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      • Sylvia Avery says:

        I was wondering the same thing. Set aside the eternal “Is Mueller White Hat or Black Hat” question. Mueller is a Swamp Creature from way back. BUT I can’t help but wonder as he is merrily working his way towards dirtying up PDJT if he was duped by the “small group,” complicit with them, or even knew about them?

        To me, it looks like they were all going in the same general direction, harm Donald Trump, but I am curious if Mueller knew that he had conspirators with their own specific agenda within his operation? If I were someone with a towering ego (as I assume Mueller must have to have survived in his positions in Washington) I’d be really PO’d to learn that MY mission had been highjacked by these fools who are making me look corrupt and incompetent.

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        • 🍺Gunny says:

          Maybe the President knew about this all along. Maybe he told Mueller about Uranium 1 and had him agree to get the rats all in one place to trap them. Doesn’t it sometimes seem a little too easy? Getting them?
          Am I reaching with this?

          Liked by 2 people

          • Sylvia Avery says:

            I don’t know. I wonder, too. But then I think, nah, couldn’t be…. I just don’t know.

            Liked by 1 person

            • Sayit2016 says:

              Sylvia… see that’s the thing…. most questions can be answered using facts, deductive logic, common sense and an understanding of human nature. I am with you on this. I have been having circular arguments in my own mind and I keep coming back to ground zero. I just don’t know.

              The only thing I can come up with is there is a piece of the puzzle that we don’t know. It has not been released yet– some times all it takes is one missing piece to distort a picture.

              Liked by 1 person

        • farrier105 says:

          Mueller is complicit in a few Clinton operations. He is no white hat. This kind of speculation goes nowhere. It’s like trying to solve the Seth Rich murder without access to any evidence. These things are tar babies. It’s best not to get stuck on them.

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      • Karmaisabitch says:

        In a way it took the Flynn nonsense to get this going. It’s as if he was bait used by the Trump administration; as the sharks went after Flynn, they become exposed.
        As soon as the first arrest happens, or if Flynn’s case gets overturned, the Mueller’s case is over.
        Mueller halted the sentencing because he is well aware of the poison fruit and he needed extra time to untangle himself from the mess. They can no longer count on the left taking over Congress in 2018; it’s not going to happen.
        They are being watched closely, the trust among them must be splintering. Key players must be meeting each other in elevators. There will be a serious amount of distraction by MSM, don’t think it matters anymore.
        Let’s get on the Uranium thieves, that’s a big deal; the protection of this country sold for American dollars, how foolish. The Clinton are notorious for doing that; remember Mr. Bill gave China our missile guidance system for a measly $250,000 political contribution, these people have no scruples, we shouldn’t feel any sympathy for them, let them swing.

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  12. This is getting too fun. Each day is bigger and uglier than the previous.

    Too much winning too fast! I want this spy thriller novel to last!

    It’s looking increasingly likely that the last chapter my end with Mark Taylor’s military tribune prophecy.

    Liked by 5 people

  13. ForGodandCountry says:

    Note: I don’t believe this list (above) is complete. There was a new attorney added recently. Trying to find.

    Liked by 2 people

  14. Sam says:

    Sundance, any guess why that Greek… Papp…is staying silent, his girlfriend however has made appearances on MSNBC, but why hasn’t his lawyer made the same case, politcal bias and corrupt FBI/DOJ… Fruit of the poisonous tree. Trump tweeted after his name and plea was known.. something along the lines that he was a democrat plant.

    Isn’t it a huge and illegal deal for the CIA to get involved in US domestic politics, if they are saying that this was incidental to the retrival of NSA ” tools” then they made it aware to the President in his daily briefing or Pompeo, right. If he wasn’t aware about the tools retrieval and the hey they say they got dirt on you what should we do… is that crimnal and proof the CIA was working against the actual President of the United States.

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  15. waltherppk says:

    The entire Trump “Russia Collusion” allegation is a completely manufactured CRIMINAL FRAUD that is the product of MALFEASANCE, Criminal Conspiracy, Evidence Fabrication / Tampering, Obstruction of Justice, Sedition, and ESPIONAGE.

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    • waltherppk says:

      Memo to all those regular Einsteins who are domestic enemies, criminals, and Trump haters……

      Keep rolling the dice with that crap shoot you think is so smart and see where it leads, because a reckoning is coming with all you lowlife POS’s where you get your thugs and traitors payday.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Nordic Breed says:

      Well, does this mean that Mueller et al is taking our taxpayer money under false pretenses? Everybody involved in this investigation needs to cough of every cent of the money they’ve been paid and give it back to the people.

      Liked by 1 person

      • waltherppk says:

        Yes I would say the Mueller investigation is indeed a fraud based on false pretenses, suspicions, and baseless allegations for which there has not been provided one scintilla of evidence, not even a smidgen of evidence to support such investigation of “unspecified crimes”. It seems the only “crime” being investigated was Trump being elected president instead of Hillary. The Russians must be to blame huh.

        AFAIK there has never yet been a statement of exactly what specific crime, what statute was alleged to have been violated, identified as any specific legal basis to investigate Donald Trump. Investigation of Trump has seemed to be like a nuisance suit and frivolous litigation where there is nothing in the way of evidence to justify the investigation. .

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  16. saywhat64 says:

    The best outcome for all the culpable parties who presented a defected FISA Affadavit that contains “Reckless Disregard for the Truth” is to with draw all charges against Flynn before any kind of Suppression Hearing can ensue…

    Liked by 4 people

  17. Farmon says:

    sh*t-show of epic proportions. << exactly. Tons more popcorn please, coconut oil and sea salt on mine, if anyone cares.

    Liked by 5 people

  18. Coldeadhands says:

    “A sh*t-show of epic proportions.“

    Liked by 4 people

  19. Larry Bucar says:

    TY SD: The small group’s mission in life within the DOJ and FBI: cover, cloud and protect; impede, block, delay and deflect.

    Liked by 4 people

  20. Guffman says:

    “This whole thing is turning into a sh*t-show of epic proportions.” is in my estimation, an understatement. ‘Sh*t-show’ doesn’t begin to describe the treasonous nature of what has been, and still is, taking place here.

    I hope Gitmo has been expanded, as plenty of holding cells will be required very shortly. After that, let the tribunals begin and let REAL JUSTICE be served. Everyone and anyone involved has betrayed everything their country is supposed to stand for, and MUST PAY for their sedition.

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  21. drdeb says:

    Reminds me of another Hitlery comment, “If I go down, I won’t go down alone.” It is beyond my wildest imagination to envision the number that are going to go down with her. Plus, these new ones she takes down will be in addition to all of the others that are beginning to be outed.

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  22. angieunderground says:

    If Mueller has a working brain cell he will conclude his investigation immediately before he gets swept up into the guilty ‘small group” simply by association.

    Liked by 2 people

  23. Tom H says:

    The falsification of the 302’s is a big deal as it relates to Flynn. The claims that he lied are based on what the agents claim he said. There is no recording or transcript…it’s only what is contained in the 302 memorializing that interview.The fact that there are admissions in the texts of fudging the contents of 302’s to meet political ends, makes all 302’s suspect. It reminds me of the corrupt, drug addict crime lab woman in Mass. who was caught grossly falsifying drug reports. It put into question every single drug test she ever did…and allowed a lot of criminals to walk.

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    • G. Combs says:

      It was only ONE agent, Peter Strzok who said he lied. The other agent said Flynn did not lie. 😈

      Given what has come out about Strzok, he is compromised, leaving only the OPINION of the other agent —- OOOPS!

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      • lieutenantm says:

        I did not know this.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Tom H says:

        There is a basic jury instruction given in all criminal and civil cases…entitled “false in one, false in all”. The jury is told that if they find a witness to be untruthful in one area, they are entitled to disbelieve everything from that witness. Strzok now is in that territory. The Judge has to also follow that rule. (See my prior post about the Mass. crime lab person.) His credibility is shot to hell to the benefit of General Flynn, God bless him.

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      • Firefly says:

        Wonder if Weissman and Mueller informed Flynn of this exculpatory evidence before they plea bargained Flynn. Sounds like Judge Emmet Sullivan is looking into that. Judge Sullivan has already cited Weissman for similar misconduct on prior cases- so he’s wise to the doj dirty tricks.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      I agree. And I don’t think it will just be Strzok’s 302’s that will be called into question – especially if he changed them as a result of orders from a higher up.

      Liked by 2 people

  24. johnparham1 says:

    Please tell me: What’s the end-game here with Mueller? Does he go for broke or toss in the towel?

    Liked by 2 people

  25. LannyD says:

    And yet we still hear Gowdy et al. say they trust Mueller. Getting old.

    Liked by 1 person

  26. johnparham1 says:

    Sundance, please tell me that White house council follows this blog? Seriously!

    Liked by 3 people

    • Landslide says:

      Well….Mike Huckabee referenced CTH recently in a tweet and we know his daughter is a direct line of communication. Lou Dobbs and Sarah Palin read here and have posted several times. Yes, I believe PDJT and his lawyers get every bit of Sundance’s fantastic research. 👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸

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    • A week or two or three ago he referenced that he was aware, Sundance that is, that mucky mucks on BOTH sides were reading him. Never fear. Rush also lists his sources and though that rotates I have seen him mention this place. I suspect that just as he does not like to give away too much out of concern of the wrong side getting too much info, so he might not want to draw too much attention to CTH, since Sundance supplies the sort of methodical, substantiated reports that Rush trusts and admires.

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    • Sayit2016 says:

      All of Sundance’s posts get linked to:

      “This entry was posted in Big Government, Big Stupid Government, Clinton(s), Conspiracy ?, Decepticons, Deep State, Dem Hypocrisy, Dept Of Justice, Desperately Seeking Hillary, Donald Trump, Donald Trump Transition, Election 2016, FBI, media bias, Notorious Liars, President Trump, Press Secretary – Trump, Professional Idiots, propaganda, Russia, Spying, Supreme Court, THE BIG UGLY, Uncategorized, White House Coverup”

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  27. lizzyp says:

    Is it time to start referring to it as ‘The Special Council’ instead of Counsel? Can we make that happen?

    Liked by 2 people

  28. Stringy theory says:

    A great piece of real investigative journalism, Sundance. The pieces are truly beginning to come to together.

    Liked by 4 people

  29. TwoLaine says:

    Lou Dobbs Show last night was the first time I have heard anyone also bring up the DENIED FISA application. I have this queued to the spot.

    FISA Surveillance Abuse-Fred Fleitz

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  30. Any evidence obtained illegally (the fruit of the poisonous tree) is forever poisoned. That particular evidence can NEVER be used. Other evidence, separate and apart from it, would have to be used to prosecute. So, unless they can/have obtained a legitimate FISA warrant and gather new evidence based on it, any investigation now ongoing based on the Carter Page Title I FISA warrant is dead, assuming all of the evidence for presentation to a grand jury came from the illegal surveillance or any investigatory action taken based on that “evidence”.

    No wonder the sentencing has been delayed. You can bet that M. Flynn’s attorney(ies) have had the conversation with Meuller re: same. Any freshman lawyer could get Flynn off on “fruit of the poisonous tree” defense. I’m only a paralegal and I could eloquently make the argument.

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  31. RJones says:

    Nice to hear someone with integrity stand up and speak. Why are there not more of these folks going on the record? Apparently not a single democrat with courage anywhere to be found.

    Liked by 5 people

    • ACtually funny you say that. A Dem was calling out the FBI for going after Russia Russia Russia while Debbie Wasserman Schulz was getting positions illegally. Granted, I believe that it was sour grapes that he lost to her corruption, but still to have a Dem admit that about Russia is interesting.

      How many of us wondered when Trump was elected and began to show the momentum, whether there might not be a parade of ‘singing canaries’ at some point?

      Liked by 2 people

  32. reh1 says:

    It is routine for the prosecution to delay the sentencing of a cooperator such as Flynn until his cooperation is concluded. Sometimes that can be years, as the cooperator’s testimony may be needed at trial. Page 6 of Flynn’s plea agreement spells that out. There is absolutely nothing unusual about the joint status report notifying the court the matter is not ready to be scheduled for sentencing. Anyone who thinks otherwise is talking through his hat.


  33. Incredible that it happen and incredible that Sundance has exposed it. I hope to God that Mueller’s investigation is terminated until this corruption is litigated in court. The President should go no where near a Mueller interview until this is resolved.

    Liked by 1 person

  34. Msher says:

    Why is no one filing ethics complaints against individual lawyers on Mueller’s team known to have violated rules, e.g., getting the transition team’s emails. Also, that’s potentially another “poisonous tree.”

    The biggest flaw I see in any “obstruction” case seems so obvious I must be missing something. testified Trump was NOT under investigation when he was fired. Trump was careful to get that admission from Comey before firing him. So WHAT WAS THERE TO OBSTRUCT? What am I missing?

    Liked by 8 people

    • Tonawanda says:

      Complaints against ALL these lawyers should have been filed long ago.

      I am amazed that it has not been done (to my knowledge).

      ANYONE with knowledge of the wrongdoing, including anyone who read about the wrongdoing, can file a complaint (just include your source of knowledge).

      ALL these lawyers should be under scrutiny presently with their respective governors.

      Bodies who regulate lawyers (I think, don’t know) will NOT investigate without a complaint from SOMEONE.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Rhoda R says:

      Something has occurred to me: Right after Comey was fired and he (Comey) started hinting at obstruction President Trump hinted that he might have a recording of that meeting. Has anything else ever come out about that?

      Liked by 2 people

    • David A says:

      Trump still is not under investigation. ( Witch- Hunt, you bet.) Nobody calls the YSM on this, as their get Trump desperation is overwhelming.
      Indeed, their demeanor illuminates the with-hunt truth.

      Liked by 1 person

    • dutzie60 says:

      Msher says, “What am I missing?” Nothing legally just the MSM and all of their useful idiots that continually call for “Obstruction of Justice” as a last resort.


      • Msher says:

        Why are Trump’s lawyers, GOP or media defenders not screaming this? They keep saying “collusion not a crime,” but no one is pointing out there was nothing to obstruct – and everyone agrees that’s what Mueller is going for.


  35. Drain the swamp? This is more resembling transhipping the Sahara Desert using teaspoons and lunch pails!
    Every rock that is overturned releases ten more slimy, wriggling creatures who immediately burrow deeper into the sand. This is going to take years to unravel, IF it ever happens.
    God sent us PDJT, pray that He also gives us some (many?) people with spines for the mid terms!

    Liked by 3 people

  36. LondonFog says:

    Into the breach my friends. The UK is fully with you. You must take your country back. This is simply war. Not done with tanks or planes. Done with economics. We have the biggest punch in the world. Our great city of London will engage. We are on your side!

    Liked by 10 people

  37. billrla says:

    Riddle me this: At this stage in the game, why on earth would any one of these swamp-rats personally risk anything more to cover for Hillary or Hussein? It’s got to be every rat for himself or herself at this point.

    Liked by 3 people

  38. Shadrach says:

    Lawyers….this is why they’re dangerous. Mr. Brandon Van Grack didn’t lie when he said the Special Counsel’s investigation hadn’t gotten emails off the hardware. GSA sent them, SC didn’t retrieve them.
    It will be interesting…Carter Page might be the first person ever who can demonstrate standing to sue USG for that FISA warrant.

    I still want to know who’s the “Kerry sleeper” mentioned by Strozk. That’s interesting also.

    Liked by 5 people

  39. emet says:

    42 USC 1983. Malicious prosecution. Then Flynn files for damages.

    Liked by 4 people

    • Rhoda R says:

      Since the investigation has led him into bankruptcy I’d say he has a good case to recover damages as well as penalty. Too bad it will be the US taxpayers rather than Mueller’s crew that will have to cough up the money.

      Liked by 2 people

  40. FRanz Dorn says:

    Great analysis, Sundance.



  41. dayallaxeded says:

    So Contreras may have been recused or recused himself for reasons under seal, because it became evident to someone that he would be a witness to FISA corruption and the poison effects on Flynn and perhaps others. Sure hope that’s it and not bc he’s a prosecution target. I’d like to keep thinking that most judges are not ideological crooks and try to do the right thing.

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  42. itsy_bitsy says:

    Trump should refuse to talk to Mueller on the grounds that he has used fraudulent and illegally obtained material to preface his case! In other words Trump has been set up and Mueller is well aware of this. He has obfuscated and in some cases lied to protect the guilty. Mueller is attempting to “RAILROAD” Trump, just as he railroaded Flynn, Page, etc….

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  43. Tonawanda says:

    I respectfully disagree with the fruit of the poisonous tree analysis.

    1) When Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI he did so under oath. That means he was affirmatively stating under the penalties of perjury that he lied to the FBI. There is NO practical or legal reason to believe Flynn did NOT lie to the FBI, IOW commit a crime.

    2) Flynn stated that he pleaded guilty voluntarily. IOW, he pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI because he lied to the FBI, and for no other legally relevant reason.

    3) Anyone who questions the factual validity of Flynn’s plea is implicitly accusing him of perjury, a far worse crime than lying to the FBI.

    4) Flynn had the right to challenge the admissibility of the underlying evidence against him any time before he pleaded guilty. He did not.

    5) The fact that Flynn actually DID lie and admitted to lying made any prior misconduct irrelevant.

    6) The fact that Flynn may NOT have pleaded guilty had the evidence been suppressed as fruit of the poisonous tree is irrelevant. He DID plead guilty.

    7) MAYBE the misconduct is relevant to the plea because it might have been exculpatory in some sense. MAYBE the failure to reveal this “exculpatory” evidence would be relevant to vacating the plea. But maybe not, it depends on the law and some lawyer would have to tell us what the law is on that issue. And maybe this “exculpatory” evidence depends on the otherwise validity of the plea.

    8) (OT: if a necessary witness dies before someone pleads guilty, must the defendant be informed?)

    9) The question of the interests of justice is totally separate and unrelated. Is it in the interests of justice to allow a plea to stand when everything leading up to it is infused with prosecutor misconduct, regardless of the plea’s validity?

    10) The interests of justice implicates a number of consideration, not the least of which is rewarding misconduct.

    11) That again is entirely different from fruit of the poisonous tree, and maybe the more fruitful path to pursue.


    • ForGodandCountry says:


      All is moot if one assumes Flynn knew the investigation was bunk to begin with (an investigation we now know is corrupt ie. fruit of the poisonous tree). He could lie as much as he wanted to…and admit it later…knowing it would all be thrown out of court.

      Put even more simply:
      You cannot be charged with lying to corrupt prosecutors. This is America, not the USSR, NK, or China.

      Given the above:

      #4 So what?
      #5 Wrong
      $6 Wrong

      My .02

      Liked by 1 person

      • JMC says:

        It is also worth considering that Flynn pleaded guilty to avoid a still harsher sentence based on evidence……from the fruit of the poisonous tree! Double unfair!

        Liked by 1 person

    • mitrom says:

      You sound like a liberal troll.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Shadrach says:

        Tonawanda is not a troll. Sheesh.

        Plus the comment is a good one. We (I) never thought Flynn wasn’t guilty of lying to the FBI anyway; we thought he was covering for Pence, who made an unnecessarily stupid statement on TV. Why? Probably because he suspected the FBI would go straight to MSM and create a Schiffstorm.

        I hope Pence learned his lesson….don’t use absolutes “always, never, none”….with no caveat when not speaking for yourself.


      • Tonawanda says:

        That’s not good to hear!


  44. formerdem says:

    Fantastic work. Sounds true.


  45. no-nonsense-nancy says:

    I have a question. Who decides which judges sit on the review panel? The three are all Clinton appointees. That must mean they are all dems. Sure, they are supposed to be apolitical, but the agencies were politicized, possibly the FISA Court too.


  46. Jedi Clampett says:

    “If the “small group” comes across a risky trail being followed, they work to impede, block, delay or deflect anyone from that trail.  That is their purpose inside the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller probe.” – Sundance.
    That was the true meaning of the “Insurance Policy” referred to in the Strzok/Page texts. Impeachment was not necessarily the end-game. It has always been about the COVER UP. Re-read the texts with that mindset and you’ll see what I mean. Their concern was avoiding jail, not finding a way to give the Presidency to Pence whom they also hated.


  47. LadyChurchill says:

    40 men went to jail over Watergate and this makes Watergate look like the 3rd rate burglary that it was. If these 20 men and women are not put into prison then we cannot rely on our Justice system. Sessions has to do everything possible to restore trust in our institutions. This is way beyond treason and undermining the Constitution it is a direct assault on the election process of the American people. Time for a special counsel to be called in to bring in Grand Jury indictments. They will all start singing like birds once that happens. They all know they are facing serious jail time for just the lies to the FISA Court (10 yrs) not counting all the conspiracy charges that can be brought. What a huge criminal enterprise. The press is not going to be able to cover all the garbage in this litter box.

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  48. Only a military commission or tribunal can seal in cement the fate of these traitors. They should all face a firing squad at Gitmo but I guarantee you someone is definitely going to give everything up including Obama. We cannot move forward until we eradicate Progressivism from America like the Germans got rid of National Socialism (NAZI)


  49. John Wilson says:

    Sundance is doing a great job. My guess is this all has to evolve into indictments for it to reach a media boiling point. Sessions is totally in the cross hairs too.


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