Confirmation: DOJ and FBI Used “Steele Dossier” for Application To FISA Court for Search Authority on Trump Campaign…

It can be difficult to see through the wording to understand the accurate story.  Sara Carter and Fox News are both confirming the DOJ and FBI used the Steele Dossier to get FISA-702 Data Surveillance Authority allowing them to spy on Trump campaign officials.

In the latest developments, as reported by Sara Carter and Fox News, the DOJ and FBI used the sketchy ‘Steele Dossier’ as the foundation for their FISA application. WATCH:

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Both Carter and Hannity use the term “FISA Warrants”, however in the interest of understanding, and accurately portraying what took place, it was not technically a “warrant” as we traditionally think about it.

A warrant implies advanced judicial approval to begin surveillance and collecting emails and phone calls etc.  Like a traditional Title III DOJ / law enforcement search warrant. But that’s not how FISA-702 works.

The FISA database, run by the NSA hub, already holds all the information, all the emails, texts, phone calls etc. The information already exists in a database. There are two steps to access the database of information:

♦Step One is to “Query” the database for your subject.  That search needs a factual legal reason to take place; like an ongoing investigation.  That search then returns an outcome, a set of information based on the “query” parameters.  If the user gets a positive response to the “query” then Yes, the database holds information related to what they are looking for.  Remember, there has to be a preexisting investigation to do the query.

♦Step Two is to “Open” the data set.  That’s the step that needs a “search warrant” to be legal.  That second step, the ‘looking at the information’ is where an approval from the FISA court is needed.  The investigator must fill out a FISA application and go to the FISA Court for approval. In order to get a FISA Court approval the investigator must show a valid reason for the search.

As reported by Sara Carter and Fox News, the DOJ and FBI used the sketchy ‘Steele Dossier’ as the foundation for their FISA application.

Example (not real):

•Step One: The DOJ/FBI official puts “Jared Kushner” into the search query.  This generates a number of responses. Perhaps his emails, phone call logs, actual intercepted recordings of his calls, or text messages, etc. (everything the NSA hub captures “about” Jared Kushner). There has to be a valid investigative reason in this step.  An investigation of Jared Kushner must be underway.

•Step Two: The DOJ/FBI official then quarantines the returned information and applies to the FISA Court for permission to review it.  The FBI/DOJ official has to tell the court why they want to look, ie. the FISA application. The FISA court grants the application and gives the FBI/DOJ official the approval. The application must have a legal basis as presented to the court – similar to that needed for a search warrant.

In 2016 NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers noted there were numerous FISA-702(17) unauthorized “About Queries” being conducted by the intelligence community.  These are queries that did not have an underlying investigation to support their taking place.

In essence, government officials were searching the system for information “About” U.S. principals not under any legal investigation. On October 26th 2016 Admiral Rogers reported those unauthorized searches to the FISA court and shut down the “About Query” process permanently.  (Full Backstory)

SARA CARTER – The unverified dossier alleging connections between President Trump’s campaign and the Russians was used as evidence by the FBI to gain approval from a secret court to monitor members of Trump’s team, this reporter has learned.

A large portion of the evidence presented in the salacious 35-page dossier put together by former British spy Christopher Steele, has either been proven wrong or remains unsubstantiated. However, the FBI gained approval nevertheless to surveil members of Trump’s campaign and “it’s outrageous and clearly should be thoroughly investigated,” said a senior law enforcement source, with knowledge of the process.

Multiple sources told this reporter that the dossier was used along with other evidence to obtain the warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as FISC. The sources also stressed that there will be more information in the coming week regarding systemic “FISA abuse.”

“(The dossier) certainly played a role in obtaining the warrant,” added another senior U.S. official, with knowledge of the dossier. “Congress needs to look at the FBI officials who were handling this case and see what, if anything, was verified in the dossier. I think an important question is whether the FBI payed anything to the source for the dossier.”  (read more)

President Obama’s political operatives within the DOJ-NSD were using FISA 702(17) surveillance “about inquiries” that would deliver electronic mail and phone communication for U.S. people (Trump campaign). The NSD unit (John Carlin) was working in coordination with the FBI Counterintelligence Unit (Bill Priestap, Peter Strzok etc.) to look at Trump campaign activity. DOJ Attorney Lisa Page was the intermediary between the DOJ National Security Division and he FBI Counterintelligence Division.

All research indicates the information the DOJ and FBI collected via their FISA-702(16)(17) queries, and the stuff Fusion GPS was creating via Christopher Steele (The “Russian Dossier), was used to create the Russian Narrative, “The Insurance Policy“.

♦Ultimately, the people within all of these unlawful intercepts of information is what Devin Nunes discovered when he looked at the “unmasking requests” which were a result of those FISA 702(17) collections on Team Trump. That’s why Devin Nunes was so stunned at what he saw in February and March 2017.

The ENTIRE SYSTEM of surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign.  They used the FISA Court to gain access to private data in order to monitor the Trump campaign and conduct surveillance on the officials therein.

RESOURCES:  – The BIG UGLY

IG Stimulated Releases of Information:

♦Release #1 was the FBI Agent Strzok and Attorney Lisa Page story; and the repercussions from discovering their politically motivated bias in the 2015/2016 Clinton email investigation and 2016/2017 Russian Election investigation.

♦Release #2 outlined the depth of FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page’s specific history in the 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton to include the changing of the wording [“grossly negligent” to “extremely careless”] of the probe outcome delivered by FBI Director James Comey.

♦Release #3 was the information about DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr being in contact with Fusion GPS at the same time as the FISA application was submitted and granted by the FISA court; which authorized surveillance and wiretapping of candidate Donald Trump; that release also attached Bruce Ohr and Agent Strzok directly to the Steele Dossier.

♦Release #4 was information that Deputy Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, was an actual contract employee of Fusion GPS, and was hired by F-GPS specifically to work on opposition research against candidate Donald Trump. Both Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr are attached to the origin of the Christopher Steele Russian Dossier.

♦Release #5 was the specific communication between FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page. The 10,000 text messages that included evidence of them both meeting with Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to discuss the “insurance policy” against candidate Donald Trump in August of 2016.

 

 

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767 Responses to Confirmation: DOJ and FBI Used “Steele Dossier” for Application To FISA Court for Search Authority on Trump Campaign…

  1. covfefe999 says:

    Let’s not forget that Obama revised Executive Order 12333. The revisions were signed off on Dec 15 and reported on Jan 12. They were desperate. It opened up NSA data to more organizations. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more-latitude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html

    The change means that far more officials will be searching through raw data. […] Now, other intelligence agencies will be able to search directly through raw repositories of communications intercepted by the N.S.A. and then apply such rules for “minimizing” privacy intrusions.

    Obama was literally crowd-sourcing among MORE THAN SIXTEEN agencies. And even though Clapper signed off on Dec 15, I don’t doubt that they were allowing extended access to the NSA data for most of 2016 to try to take Trump out. They just made it “legal” at the very end.

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    • Kiliman ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

      Yet despite all that, they still couldn’t find anything on Trump. He’s by far the cleanest person in all of DC.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        It’s amazing, isn’t it! That’s why I take some satisfaction even if the traitors don’t end up in prison. You know they were all going nuts trying to find something on Trump. And all the while they were trying he won the GOP nomination and then won the election. lol And all of 2017 has been brilliant for Trump aside from the witch hunt. They managed to nail Paul Manafort for something from early 2015, before Trump even announced his candidacy, and the two dopes who were barely connected to the campaign. And that’s it.

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      • holymercenary says:

        99.99% of all other people, they would have found something, and Hillary would have been President.

        Think about that for a second.

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      • jnearen says:

        True. But, make no mistake about it. Many completely innocent people are “set up” to take a fall. This is why if I were counsel for POTUS there is no way that I would allow him to be interviewed by Mueller. No way. Mueller is dirty. He knows his participation in the Uranium One deal was corrupt (curious if he got paid), he knows that his use of FISA court warrant obtained data may collapse his investigation, he knows that his only hope is to make allegations of felonious conduct (or even misdemeanor conduct) against POTUS, AND he has a grand jury that will do whatever they are told. (As a former practicing attorney we all knew that a grand jury indictment is the easiest thing in the world to get — use of heresy and innuendo is allowed and a common practice).

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        • Zimbalistjunior says:

          Agreed. Too risky. Best to keep negotiating with mueller re details of interview delay delay until you are ready to bring out the big guns and destroy the credibility of the probe. Then mueller can resign in shame.
          Or worse.

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    • pageoturner says:

      Let’s not forget how Project Veritas recorded Obama’s Obamacare guru bragging about sending his goons to Trump rallies to beat Trump supporters or claim they were victimized by Trump supporters.

      Maybe Sara Carter will be the Woodward/Bernstein who exposes the rot in the Obama administration and the entire Democrat party/progressive left.

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    • B Woodward says:

      Covfefe999: Obama’s executive order may have “made it legal” for the 16+ agencies to access the NSA data. But it may come back to bite them. We will have to see if AG Sessions does his duty and enforces the law, or if he is going to give all these people a free pass like he did for Lois Lerner.

      Judge Napolitano on Rice-gate: Unmasking Americans For Reasons Other Than National Security ‘That’s Called Espionage’ Can she [Susan Rice] reveal the identity of an American for a purpose other than national security? Absolutely not. Can she ask for more Americans involved an then unmask them and say to her boss, ‘by the way, guess what Trump and Manafort were talking about last night?’ You know what that’s called? That’s called espionage. That’s called the failure to safeguard top secret information. This is the same crime that Hillary Clinton probably committed by her failure to safeguard top secret information when she was Secretary of State.” Judge Napolitano also went on to point out that Susan Rice only has one boss, one person she reports to and that’s Obama.

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/judge-napolitano-rice-gate-unmasking-americans-reasons-national-security-thats-called-espionage-video/

      Espionage

      Chelsea Manning (born Bradley Manning) was a private in the United States Army with access to classified and otherwise sensitive government documents. Manning leaked the files through WikiLeaks. Ultimately, Manning was convicted on 21 federal charges related to the massive leak, including six counts of violating the federal Espionage Act (found in chapter 37 of the U.S. Code). The federal crime of espionage is generally intended to punish those who share sensitive information that would be harmful to U.S. interests, but violations of the law can take many forms. As the Manning case illustrates, even those who leak or share sensitive government information without the intention of harming the United States still may be found guilty of espionage. U.S. prosecutors were not required to prove Manning’s intent to harm the United States. Instead, the government only had to show that Manning had (or should have had) reason to believe the information she shared could have harmed U.S. interests Furthermore, it is not necessary for the act in question to actually cause any harm to the United States (or help any foreign nations), nor does the government have to prove that the disclosed information actually was closely held and a threat to national security….

      http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/espionage.html

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      • Three-Pound Sledge says:

        Time to man-up, Manning if you still have the accessories.

        I question the mental health of all those, but predominantly Democratic-following individuals, who claim that there are more than two genders or that a person can change their gender at will, any time after birth?

        It’s time for competent medical authorities to publicly acknowledge scientific evidence that gender is determined at conception and that only two genders exist, female and male. Then there needs to be a concerted judicial effort to prosecute all those people that attempt to present themselves contrary to or change their at-birth certification of gender listed on their birth certificate after mutilating their bodies and calling themselves a transgender.

        Transgender is a term that only exists through the voluntary mutilation of one’s body by a pact between the surgeon and the patient and it is only reinforced in the minds of questionable persons.

        Transgenderism and multiple gender assignments contrary to God’s design are effectively destroying this country from within, through needless tax burdens and especially when these individuals are allowed to enlist or be commissioned into the U.S. military ranks.

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        • G. Combs says:

          Human hermaphrodites (Having characteristics of both sexes) do exist but they are rare — 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births. There are other abnormalities but as far as I am concerned it is a medical issue PERIOD!

          I am not interested in what happens in someones bedroom — YUCK!!!

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        • mnwild1961 says:

          transgenderism is also the only “medical condition” that is self diagnosed. They still have a very high (40%) suicide rate even after the procedure has been completed because they almost always have other underlying psychological issues that are not dealt with as they think that having their sex changed will somehow make everything all better.

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      • d2i says:

        The ‘About Query’ only returns metadata if the targets electronic communications have been hoovered up into the NSA data collection system.

        As sundance has been stating, in order to ‘UNMASK’ this metadata ‘LEGALLY’ authorities MUST not May secure authorization via FISC.

        An NSA ‘About Query’ search is similar to what you and I do every day, that is we enter info into a ‘search queary’ such as Google to find info we are seeking.

        The difference between a Google ‘search’ and an NSA ‘About Query’ is the results from that search – Google provides you with UNMASKED data whereas NSA ‘About Query’ results are MASKED using your metadata. It’s streams of code. It is this metadata Susan Rice, Ben Rhodes, Samantha Powers and et al UNMASKED.

        So, Obama may have broadened the reach of surveillance NSA has been hoovering up on every human being in the U.S. starting at birth but one still MUST secure authorization to UNMASK the metadata. And I’m thinking by removing the ‘About Query’ altogether as has been reported, then there must be a new ‘About Query’ system put in place that makes such abuses that much harder to achieve…just a thought.

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      • G. Combs says:

        “… if AG Sessions does his duty and enforces the law, or if he is going to give all these people a free pass like he did for Lois Lerner….”

        I never did find the actual law covering corporate officials, much less a law that was applicable to government officials.

        If there is such a law the stumbling block in the Lois Lerner case is going to be the same:
        “[…] where responsibility can be diffuse and decisions are made at various levels, it can be difficult to determine if someone possessed the knowledge and criminal intent necessary to establish their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.[…]”

        This is especially true since Lerner’s laptop was destroyed and records of who had access to her office at the time of the destruction were also destroyed. 😡

        The Curious Case of Lois Lerner’s Physically Damaged Hard Drive

        HOWEVER, going after Lois Lerner early may have tipped off the DemonRats that AG Sessions was actually serious about his duties. One wonders if the Awans were the ones responsible for the destruction of Lerner’s laptop. If so, again going after her early might have messed up a much larger espionage case.

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      • WSB says:

        Yes, I remember back when we all found out about the EO,we all knew that just because an EO is produced does not mean it is legal. And maybe someone can assist with a couple of questions I am still confused by,

        From SD:
        “Example (not real):

        •Step One: The DOJ/FBI official puts “Jared Kushner” into the search query. This generates a number of responses. Perhaps his emails, phone call logs, actual intercepted recordings of his calls, or text messages, etc. (everything the NSA hub captures “about” Jared Kushner). There has to be a valid investigative reason in this step. An investigation of Jared Kushner must be underway.”

        Question: Using the hypothetical Jared Kushner information, where would that investigation have originated? Can a domestic Federal Title III investigation use NSA information on a US citizen, or is this NSA information only usable on a foreign investigation, incidental and only as a last resort – thus the minimization and unmasking when absolutely necessary and approved by FISA?

        What other agencies were making these queries? Were these queries for Jared Kushner, or only for FOREIGN entities associated with Jared Kushner? Or would these queries be for specific foreign names – Kislyak, Natasha, and the others who met with Jared – in the HOPE of ‘discovering’ Jared’s name?

        “•Step Two: The DOJ/FBI official then quarantines the returned information and applies to the FISA Court for permission to review it. The FBI/DOJ official has to tell the court why they want to look, ie. the FISA application. The FISA court grants the application and gives the FBI/DOJ official the approval. The application must have a legal basis as presented to the court – similar to that needed for a search warrant.”

        Question: The FISA Warrant request must list a previously established, (FOREIGN?) and legitimately filed Investigation. So, the specific request could only come an investigation of the foreign server connection in Trump Tower or previous engagement with foreigners, or could it be through Manafort or Flynn?

        If so, based on the timelines, an investigation had to be in place prior to June/July, the first attempt. Does it sound as though the staged Don Jr. meeting in the summer was not evidence enough to warrant the queries, but the dossier was developed as the stronger incentive for the next request?

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    • Basically Obama’s (DNC) team executed an electronic “Watergate” theft of Team Trump’s campaign communications. Russian collusion was the (exceedingly thin and unsubstantiated) excuse. They just wanted to snoop on the republican candidate,and then try to weaponize private internal communications just like they tried with the TMZ video.

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  2. FreedomLover says:

    Doesn’t this whole scheme seem like another (create writer) Ben “rodes” feel to it? Take what he learned from the Iran deal scheme, and apply it to a new “problem”? In his position, I think he already had a lot of access to NSA information, unmasking, etc.

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    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      Maybe Rhodes can write the inevitable all the presidents men remix and fulfill his dream of becoming a screenwriter.

      Best for him to do so from a prison cell. No distractions, 3 square a day etc

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  3. covfefe999 says:

    Someone needs to interview Clapper again. Play his interviews from March and September 2017, remind him what he told the public. Then ask if he wants to revise his answer.

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    • D. Manny says:

      What he said was true. That’s Sundance’s whole point.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        It can’t be true. Clapper said there were no FISA warrants against Trump, the campaign, or anything to do with Trump Tower. This is on video, interview with Chuck Todd.

        But above in Sundance’s article we see the excerpt from Sara Carter:

        The unverified dossier alleging connections between President Trump’s campaign and the Russians was used as evidence by the FBI to gain approval from a secret court to monitor members of Trump’s team, this reporter has learned. (and keep reading for the rest of the detail)

        There WAS a warrant, according to Carter. That means Clapper lied.

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        • Mickey Wasp says:

          Sundance (The Last Refuge) clarifies that Carter uses “warrant” mistakenly.

          TheLastRefuge Retweeted Sara A. Carter
          “Stop using the words “FISA Warrant” and start saying: “Was the DNC/Clinton campaign-funded dossier used to obtain Trump FISA “Search Query Authority”?
          There were no Title III “warrants”. There were only FISA-702 “query approvals”, which gets conflated w/ term “Warrants”.

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        • D. Manny says:

          At the time that Clapper said it, it was true…..it’s like the meaning of “is.”

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          • Mickey Wasp says:

            Exactly … the lawyers today do not follow our Founding Fathers brevity with common and natural law in mind. The lawyers of the modern era write law in their language of lengthy arguable interpretation.

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            • Alligator Gar says:

              Clarification here. We lawyers litigate the meaning of statutes passed by your and our elected legislative officials. If you want Constitutional brevity, elect Constitutionally literate legiscritters. Don’t blame lawyers for writing laws. Blame those who DO. Your legiscritters.

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  4. Kristin says:

    Can i go back to the move from Trump Towers to the Golf property in Bedminster, NJ after The Rogers visit:
    If there was no FISA “warrant”, and the NSA collects all the data, and they were peeking at the data when they weren’t allowed. What difference does it make if you’re in Trump Tower or Bedminster if you are peeking unlawfully at the NSA collectes data anyway?

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    • L. Gee says:

      I think Sundance answered your question in this thread: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/10/answering-common-questions-about-the-doj-and-fbi-2016-trump-operation/

      But if this doesn’t clear it up, keep asking! 🙂

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      • Kristin says:

        He did. I am still going over that.
        Thank you.

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        • JimmBobbCooter says:

          In short, think of it this way: At Trump tower, the feds had a fire hose of information flowing from it. They did the work and the info was pouring in.

          By moving to the golf course, the feds had to locate it and reestablish all the plumbing before they could get one drop of information out of it. And the golf course probably took some countermeasures to make it even harder for the feds to accomplish it.

          Maybe only a delay tactic, but one that likely had a significant impact.

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          • DrNo76 says:

            I think it is more than that. At the new location, the NSA or DOJ or whomever would have had to have a foreign contact there whom they could say they have an interest in monitoring and then use that as a basis for hovering up the data. They apparently had some info (maybe the Russian bank that had a connection to an entity in the Trump tower and then used that to monitor Trump and his folks since that location had had a contact with a foreign entity). Once the foreign entity contact stopped, they kept monitoring. By moving to Bedminster, they would first have needed a foreign contact about whom they had an interest in monitoring. They have to have that before accessing data there. (I think….)

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        • G. Alistar says:

          Hmmm? i thought it was because before they moved from TT to Bedminister NJ, there was a foreign contact which allowed them to (at least in their minds) continue to monitor conversations and gather intel. At Bedminister until they had some type of NON-American link, they could not look at the already, gathered data. Essentially wire-tapping of their political opponent in violation of the 4th amendment as well as a host of other laws, policies and regulations.

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    • sat0422 says:

      Remember when the family left the White House so it could be painted and redecorated. Well, IMHO, that is when a full sweep for “bugs” began. We will probably never know what was found, but things did change dramatically when the family returned to the fresh and new look White House. Or, did I just dream that they went away for awhile and it wasn’t to NJ.

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      • EagleMom says:

        They did paint and put down new carpet in White House. I keep thinking of the quote from President Trump, “We found gold in these walls”.

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      • G. Combs says:

        In answer to the observation by one treeper: Gold is used on the coating of the diaphragms in fibre-optic acoustic pick-ups. It doesn’t tarnish like aluminium.

        konradwp1 says:
        “Nope, not high end audio cable. Even well shielded, it creates an electromagnetic signal that bug scanners can pick up.

        The trick is to do it optically. You run two fibre optic lines to a passive diaphragm. One projects laser light onto the back of the diaphragm, the other returns the fluctuating reflection (audio) to a receiver far from the room. This way no electronic detector can pick up the bugs in the room.

        This approach works well. Right up until the point some crazy Lion with experience in industrial espionage who doesn’t need to rely on the “advice” of security services gets elected president and suddenly decides the walls and ceilings of the Whitehouse need to be stripped to “renovate insulation and air conditioning”.”
        …..

        (June 2017) “We found gold behind the walls, which I always knew. Renovations are grand,” Trump says. – http://time.com/donald-trump-after-hours/?xid=fbshare

        That really was fantastic trolling by our Extremely Stable Genius, President Trump

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I think any person would move their business or political operation when informed that their current location is under surveillance. It might not have been 100% effective but it was better than staying put. Also, there is some info that Trump might have been under surveillance not by the FBI but by state or local investigators, in which case moving to NJ would take him out of their area.

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    • D. Manny says:

      Because they have to magically transform poisonous fruit into edible fruit…

      IOW, if they have intel gathered by illegal means, that intel can’t be used in a court of law. The FISA warrant was used as the vehicle to transform poisonous fruit into edible fruit.

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      • lettruthspeak says:

        Which makes it very curious to understand why Michael Flynn plead guilty. Did they use information gathered in this unlawful way to bring those charges against him, or did they discover something another way? Something is off.

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        • D. Manny says:

          Flynn was the ONLY person who could possibly have fallen under the auspices of the FISA warrant. Everybody else was already fired/quit before the FISA warrant was effective.

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          • covfefe999 says:

            When was the FISA warrant granted? Provide a link.

            Here are two more FISA warrants that are candidates:

            There are reports that there was a FISA warrant to monitor the communications of a server in Trump Tower which was sending or receiving data from the Russian Alfa Bank. The dossier has a section about the bank (spelled “Alpha”). Reports claim that this warrant was obtained in Oct 2016.

            There are also reports that there was a FISA warrant to surveil Carter Page. Carter Page was associated with Trump’s campaign until Sep 26 2016. At least one report said the warrant was obtained in the “summer”, which would surely be before Sep 26. Carter Page was also a subject of the dossier.

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            • D. Manny says:

              It’s sort of like this…

              I have no evidence of a bear in the woods, but when I see bear poop, I’m pretty sure there’s a bear nearby…

              So the Court’s opinion on the FISA warrant=bear poop.

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            • JoAnn Leichliter says:

              I think the bank warrant was based on the Russian bank having sent an email or emails to Trump Tower. My recollection is that these were solicitations for business and had gone unanswered. Nothing there, but the surveillance continued anyway.

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        • Johnny says:

          They threatened to go after his son. They leveraged a father against his children. He did what I would have done as a father, protect my family.

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    • Lunagirl says:

      Because the “about inquiries” they had used was for IP addresses and phones in Trump Tower, and after Mike Rodgers found out what they were doing he put a stop to “about” inquiries completely. So no new ones could be issued for phone lines or IP addresses in the new transition team headquarters. As SD says, it broke the chain of accessible information.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        There were reports that a FISA warrant was issued in October, possibly to monitor communications of a server in Trump Tower which was allegedly sending/receiving from Alfa Bank in Russia. There’s a section about this bank in the dossier, it’s spelled “Alpha”.

        Rogers temporarily halted the “about queries” on Oct 26. If the Oct FISA warrant really did exist and the server or Trump or someone else associated with Trump was the target, then the FBI could have switched over to using the data they collected through the warrant-authorized spying.

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    • Mickey Wasp says:

      ping … We got their IP address’s.
      ping … What Happened?
      ping back … We moved and fired all your spooks Hillary.

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  5. D. Manny says:

    Why was the FISA warrant placed under an unusual 30-day review instead of the ordinary 90-day review? As outlined in the law on obtaining FISA warrants….

    CORRECTION OF DEFICIENCIES.—If the Court finds
    that a certification submitted in accordance with subsection
    (g) does not contain all the required elements [minimization procedures], or that
    the procedures adopted in accordance with subsections (d)
    and (e) are not consistent with the requirements of those
    subsections or the fourth amendment to the Constitution
    of the United States, the Court shall issue an order
    directing the Government to, at the Government’s election
    and to the extent required by the Court’s order—
    ‘‘(i) correct any deficiency identified by the Court’s
    order not later than 30 days after the date on which
    the Court issues the order;

    https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-110publ261/pdf/PLAW-110publ261.pdf

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Certifications are the NSA’s proof of compliance to the FISC (court). They do not pertain to specific FISA warrants, just to general procedures for collecting and handling the data. Deficiencies in procedures need to be corrected within 30 days.

      1) Certification: On an annual basis, the Attorney General and Director of National Intelligence make “certifications” authorizing 702 surveillance programs and submit these certifications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) for approval. These certifications 1) identify categories of foreign intelligence information to be gathered, 2) contain Targeting Procedures and the Minimization Procedures approved by the AG that are meant to ensure 702 acquisition is limited to non-U.S. persons abroad, 3) attest that the targeting and minimization procedures and additional guidelines adopted to ensure compliance are consistent with the Fourth Amendment, 4) attest that a “significant purpose” of the program is to obtain foreign intelligence information, 5) attest that the program uses a U.S. electronic communications service provider, and 6) attest that the program complies with the limitations spelled out by the statute.

      If all the certification elements are present and the minimum requirements of the targeting and minimization procedures are met, the FISC must approve the 702 surveillance program. The FISC plays no role in making the actual targeting decisions (such decisions are made by the NSA, with “nominations” from the CIA and FBI). https://cdt.org/insight/section-702-what-it-is-how-it-works/

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      • D. Manny says:

        For each target, they must provide all of that information.

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        • covfefe999 says:

          I don’t think so. The NSA has to do their review and report the overall findings to the court and state any deficiencies. That’s what Rogers did when he reported to the court the “about query” abuses.

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          • D. Manny says:

            CERTIFICATION.—
            ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—
            ‘‘(A) REQUIREMENT.—Subject to subparagraph (B), prior
            to the implementation of an authorization under subsection
            (a), the Attorney General and the Director of National
            Intelligence shall provide to the Foreign Intelligence
            Surveillance Court a written certification and any supporting
            affidavit, under oath and under seal, in accordance
            with this subsection.
            ‘‘(B) EXCEPTION.—If the Attorney General and the
            Director of National Intelligence make a determination
            under subsection (c)(2) and time does not permit the
            submission of a certification under this subsection prior
            to the implementation of an authorization under subsection
            (a), the Attorney General and the Director of National
            Intelligence shall submit to the Court a certification for
            Deadline.
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            such authorization as soon as practicable but in no event
            later than 7 days after such determination is made.
            ‘‘(2) REQUIREMENTS.—A certification made under this subsection
            shall—
            ‘‘(A) attest that—
            ‘‘(i) there are procedures in place that have been
            approved, have been submitted for approval, or will
            be submitted with the certification for approval by
            the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that are
            reasonably designed to—
            ‘‘(I) ensure that an acquisition…..
            https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-110publ261/pdf/PLAW-110publ261.pdf

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            • covfefe999 says:

              Your excerpt doesn’t support your claim. Where does it say that individual FISA warrants must be justified during the certification?

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              • D. Manny says:

                You didn’t read it, did you?

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                • covfefe999 says:

                  I did read it. Tell me exactly where it states that certifications involve justifying individual FISA warrants. Certification refers to the entire 702 program, how the data is collected and handled. I provided information in a comment above.

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                • D. Manny says:

                  Okay. If you read it, then you know which page deals with the issue. Go to that page, and we can discuss it.

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                • covfefe999 says:

                  D Manny, I’m beginning to think that you are deliberately trying to misinform people and waste people’s time. You started last night with your claim that the FISC opinion was a FISA warrant. You actually argued with me on that one. Now today it’s about the cerifications which you seem to think are warrant extensions, and directly below you are fighting the fact that Admiral Rogers put a fix in for the about query abuses. I don’t know why you are doing this, it doesn’t seem rational, so I’m going to assume that you are trolling.

                  You won’t waste any more of my time. YOU substantiate your claims. Do so clearly. Excerpt the exact sections of documents. You know it’s ridiculous to expect people to read through random excerpts or entire documents when you could easily pull out a sentence or two. That’s what everyone else does.

                  I will continue to respond to your comments when I see that you’re incorrect. That will not be a waste of my time. This situation is extremely complex and some people don’t have the time to do a lot of reading and research to understand. It’s really important that in addition to Sundance’s wonderful articles jam packed with facts that the comments section is also factual, for the benefit of the readers.

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                • D. Manny says:

                  Well, that’s quite interesting. The moment I ask you to point out the page that talks about the subject and would prove that you read it, you display fake outrage.

                  Instead of taking all that time to write out all that fake outrage, wouldn’t it have just been simpler to say, “Page 5”?

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                • covfefe999 says:

                  If I’m substantiating my own claim, I provide the link and the page # or excerpt. If you are substantiating your own claim, you provide the link and the page # or excerpt. That’s how it normally works.

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                • covfefe999 says:

                  And make sure your excerpt substantiates your claim. If it doesn’t, then provide the correct one.

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    • D. Manny says:

      Bear in mind (the most important detail), they NEVER corrected the deficiencies….

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      • D. Manny says:

        ……and when they ultimately could not cure the deficiencies, that’s when ……

        2016-11-09 Hillary campaign hatches plan to blame election loss on Russians.

        “She wondered why the president hadn’t leaned harder into making the case that Vladimir Putin was specifically targeting her and trying to throw the election to Trump. “The Russia stuff has really bothered her a lot,” one of the aides said. “She’s sort of learning what the administration knew and when they knew it, and she’s just sort of quizzical about the whole thing. She can’t quite sort out how this all played out the way that it did.” On the long list of people, agencies, and international forces Hillary blamed for her loss, Obama had a spot.”

        (NOTE: What this really means is, they were getting their stories straight on how they were going to sell it to the public.)

        2016-11-10 Obama commissions intelligence agency report

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/21/shattered-revelation-clinton-campaign-hatched-russian-hacking-narrative-24-hours-after-hillarys-loss/

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      • covfefe999 says:

        Admiral Rogers corrected the deficiency pertaining to the “about query”. He saw that the queries were being abused, he shut them down temporarily and reported them to the FISC, then was given 30 days to implement a remedy. IIRC he either completed the remedy in 30 days or required a slightly longer period. Remedy was put in place and “about queries” were once again allowed.

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        • D. Manny says:

          Admiral Rogers didn’t have the authority to correct any deficiency. Only the judge can make that determination. The only thing Rogers can do is provide evidence to enable the Court to make that determination.

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          • covfefe999 says:

            The Court authorized it. Re-read the Apr 22 2017 FISC document that you linked to last night (and that Sundance has posted on at least on occasion).

            Admiral Rogers conducted a compliance review in mid-2016. He received the results on Oct 26 2016, saw the “about query” abuses, and immediately notified the FISC (court). The court agreed with the assessment that the about queries were improper and allowed Rogers until Jan 31, 2017 to “assess and report on the scope of the problem and an appropriate remedial plan”. You can continue reading after that. The FISC was fully apprised and authorized all of Rogers’ actions.

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            • D. Manny says:

              If it was ever authorized, why did it remain on a 30-day extension?

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              • covfefe999 says:

                The court wanted a complete assessment of the “about query” abuses and a remedial plan by Jan 31 2017.

                Now, I can excerpt the info which answers your question. But it would be better if YOU read it. It’s in the document you linked to in one of your posts last night:

                https://www.dni.gov/files/…/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf

                On page 21 there’s a paragraph that starts with “On January 27, 2017”. Read from that point. You won’t need to read far, just a couple of pages.

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  6. John Doe says:

    This Atlantic article is interesting:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/obama-expanding-nsa-powers/513041/
    One excerpt:
    Under Executive Order 12333 as it previously existed, NSA analysts had to make an initial determination and apply a set of privacy rules before sharing raw signals-intelligence information with other parts of the intelligence community. After this change, it doesn’t necessarily have to be an NSA analyst that makes that determination—that information can be shared with other parts of the intelligence community.

    So it doesn’t change the substantive rules, it doesn’t change the scope of collection, it doesn’t change the types of protection, it doesn’t change the possible uses; it essentially just broadens the group of people who can apply those protections to the raw intelligence.

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    • Chuck says:

      This kind of action draws more people into the corruption. Blurring the lines between right and wrong inside of a larger group of people disseminates guilt, both felt and perceived.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Obama also broadens who can actually examine the intelligence, add to that a broadening authority and the surface area of exposure is drastically increased. Note all of these changes plus Obama hiring binge as well as appointments of political operatives to “professional” positions with access and authority was NOT vetted.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I have no doubt Clapper and Obama did this deliberately as a last minute scramble to crowd-source the NSA data (more than SIXTEEN agencies now have access!) to try to take Trump out.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        And think about the number of Obama holdovers who are still in place in those agencies and who are enjoying the expanded access. It sickens me. I hope Trump is aware of this and can take action to set things back the way they were before.

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    • D. Manny says:

      Just as Sundance has been saying…

      They relaxed the standards of who was able to see NSA “raw” intel, and at the same time, they applied for the FISA warrant, all in a bid to cover their tracks for the spying they were already doing.

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    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      It sounds as though the initial firewall has been removed. The NSA would theoretically be a neutral party: it does not investigate or prosecute; it doesn’t even actually spy, as we think of it, although it gathers the transmission data. It has no dog in the fight. If other agencies are allowed to make a determination, they would not be neutral parties. Or am I misreading?

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  7. Lion2017 says:

    Who has the authority to de-classify all of this information? President Trump?

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    • Blacksmith8 says:

      Yes, PDJT is the senior supervisor to all originating classifiers in the DoD, FBI, and DOJ.

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      • Lion2017 says:

        Is President Trump the only one?

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        • Unprotected Class says:

          Anyone with classification authority can declassify.

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        • Chuck says:

          I believe the President and the Attorney General have access to, or are suppose to have access to, all info.
          ALL the noise right now is political…. people trying to save their a$$es and people trying to continue the sedition. These people will fight till we think they are destroyed and then regroup.

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          • JimmBobbCooter says:

            Your last sentence is key. REALLY key. Anyone doubting how long this fight will take place just needs to think about long the “transition” to the new administration has been going on. This is a fight to the death.

            We are catching up to them now. But what else have they been planning in the meantime? What else have they moved on to? Time doesn’t stand still and those @sshats are as nefarious as they come,

            Don’t assume they are beaten, even if Zero and Hildabeast go down.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      By Federal Code, the President of the US has “originating” authority to delegate authority to classify and declassify as well as the power to classify and declassify materials at will. Trump’s problem is that his actions to classify and declassify is being watched and scrutinized closely both by Mueller’s team, the democrat members of the Gang of 8 and the Democrat political “professionals” still in place. He has to tread carefully with his authority.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I think that’s why Mueller isn’t ending his investigation. They are deliberately tying Trump’s hands. If he declassifies anything pertaining to the Muh Russia ruse, they’ll probably claim he’s obstructing.

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    • jmclever says:

      Apparently, Congress has some sorry of authority to do so because Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows are pushing for it to be done for all the documents pertaining to their investigations.

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  8. ShittyBill says:

    The snake dies from the head down. So now they are left with the task of discerning whether or not they; A: Received FISA approval or, B: Did not receive FISA approval and looked at data anyway or, C: Merely inferred from query results and concocted stories based off of them. When blame is ready to be placed, it can’t stop just at DOJ-NSD or FBI and allow Obama and HRC to have plausible deniability. They too must be held accountable, because I’m more than certain that ALL of this started with a private conversation between those two.

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    • Linus_in_W.PA. says:

      Frankly, those two (Obama and HRC) probably didn’t have the smarts to pull this off.

      Conversely, neither had the true management skills to stop such activity either.

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  9. Blacksmith8 says:

    Why is it every day is looking like a rerun of a season of co-joined episodes of blacklist and person of interest?

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  10. Ed says:

    I was wondering why Nunes had that look on his face when he held that press conference in February and March of 2017. I think this thing is bigger than what anyone could imagine. The genie is out of the bottle. People better being going to jail over this.

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    • FreedomLover says:

      Yes, I/we are most interested in the THE FISA application to spy on the Trump campaign. But, what if there is evidence of many other questionable searches?

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    • covfefe999 says:

      He looked sickened. Remember he said he was going to talk to Trump after that. For those who haven’t seen the video which Sundance has posted in prior threads, here it is again:

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      • lettruthspeak says:

        At the time Nunes came out and said these words, this should have been the biggest story in history. He is literally telling America that a duly elected president was being spied on, “surveilled”, by the intelligence operatives from the previous administration. The fact that the media pretty much ignored this story for all this time, other than a few at Fox and The Hill, and of course this incredible site, says they have been in cahoots with the operatives who committed these illegal acts. Everyone involved in this is simply wicked. They had a lot to hide because deep down they are just two-bit criminals who managed to squirm their way into high level positions. It’s positively sickening.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Don’t EVER forget it is not just NSA phone and e-mail data. President Trump had plenty of enemies in high up places in NYC too.

        Why your smart TV is the perfect way to spy on you
        The smart TVs have cameras as well as microphones.

        Also spying via computers.
        “… A Toronto woman was photographed watching Netflix by a hacker who commandeered the webcam on her laptop. Foreign hackers took over the “nanny-cam” of a Minnesota family and posted photos of their baby online. A Temecula man was sent to prison for spying on women through their webcams…” link

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    • D. Manny says:

      The stench reaches all the way up to SCOTUS: Justice Roberts….

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    • V.Lombardi says:

      That requires purging DOJ leadership. The little details here on this site about what a warrant is, or who is a white hat, will not lead to justice.

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  11. flyboy46 says:

    Trump may not have understood that NSA collects EVERYTHING from everybody. From his tweet it sounds like he thought they had “tapped” his lines at the Tower.

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  12. Mickturn says:

    SO let’s get this straight, the Democrap party PAID for a report (dossier) that had made up lies about Donald Trump…the FBI and DOJ under Obama then took that dossier to the FISA court to get permission to do surveillance on the Trump campaign, lying to the FISA court that it was all true, or finding a Democrap Judge on the FISA court to go along. Along the way, partisan hacks in the DOJ, FBI and Congress worked overtime to make it all happen. Seems to me this is a Conspiracy of the highest order. I hope, once all the dots are connected, (Sundance above outlined 99% of them) we can proceed with indictments, trials and PRISON time for ALL OF THE perps!

    Our political system is nothing but partisan hacks and trash, we will lose our country if all these conspirators are not put in Prison for at least 30 years!

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    • covfefe999 says:

      And it’s just so brilliant that Trump is still President and is completing an awesome first year. 🙂 After all of that! Starting from the very beginning, look how many people and organizations tried to take him out. The Democrats, the Republican, the Clintons, the Bushes, almost all of the media, the FBI and DOJ, Obama and his lackeys, and more. Hilarious.

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    • KBR says:

      Did you leave out the part where they PAID journalists to help them cover up their crimes?

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    • V.Lombardi says:

      Connecting all the dots is not a requirement. It is a stall. Trump has repeatedly complained about the lack of action from the DOJ. The DOJ is defying Trump, with help from the senate.

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    • G. Combs says:

      Actually the SPYING began a LOT earlier than the warrant. It began when people in the Obummer Admin realized President Trump would win the nomination!

      “[…]Admiral Mike Rogers became NSA director in April 2014.

      Sometime in early 2016 Admiral Rogers became aware of “ongoing” and “intentional” violations of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), Section 702 surveillance. Specifically item #17 which includes the unauthorized upstream data collection of U.S. individuals within NSA surveillance.[…]” https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/
      (Read the whole article again it has important details)

      If I understand it correctly, you can only use “About Query” for 48 hours before getting approval.

      Also SEE: http://www.heritage.org/defense/report/maintaining-americas-ability-collect-foreign-intelligence-the-section-702-program

      This is interesting because it make it clear the law is about looking at FOREIGN NATIONALS. This is the number of US located people looked at and the number unmasked.
      “[…]Given that the targets of Section 702 collection are non-U.S. persons reasonably believed to be located overseas, it can reasonably be inferred that the predominant portion of the collected data does not contain U.S. person information. Although it would be useful to have an accurate estimate of how much incidental U.S. person information actually resides within the remaining portion of the data collected under the Section 702 program…

      FISA itself takes a more practical approach in attempting to understand the potential U.S. person privacy implications raised by Section 702 collection…. the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) recently released its “Statistical Transparency Report Regarding Use of National Security Authorities–Annual Statistics for Calendar Year 2015.”[15] The report estimates that 94,368 non-U.S. persons are targets of Section 702 collection. By comparison, the report estimates that the IC used 4,672 known U.S. person search terms in 23,800 queries of the lawfully collected Section 702 data. The report also notes that in 2015, the NSA disseminated 4,290 Section 702 intelligence reports that included U.S. person information. Of those reports, the U.S. person information was masked in 3,168 reports and unmasked in 1,122 reports […]”

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  13. Streak 264 says:

    The intel community knows what needs to be done about the people that abused the system. It needs to be done swiftly and very publicly to all involved to send a message that abuse will NOT be tolerated. Or shut it down.

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  14. Brian says:

    “The ENTIRE SYSTEM of surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign. They used the FISA Court to gain access to private data in order to monitor the Trump campaign and conduct surveillance on the officials therein.”

    And then if that wasn’t bad enough, Mueller’s team improperly acquired the private, nongovernmental emails of the Trump transition team hosted by GSA.

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    • D. Manny says:

      “They used the FISA Court to gain access to private data in order to monitor the Trump campaign and conduct surveillance on the officials therein.”

      Let’s correct that…

      They used the FISA Court not to gain access (because they already had access). They used it to justify the access they already had.

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    • V.Lombardi says:

      Yes, yet this site wants all the dots connected before any action, such as an actual criminal investigation.

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      • G. Combs says:

        No, this site is documenting the dots so US voters understand the depth of CORRUPTION in the District of Criminals. (And we can vote the baseturds OUT!)

        The Tree House has ZERO ability — except for providing sunlight — to do anything. On the other hand politicians and journalists do read here and some are using the data Sundance collected to push for justice.

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  15. hardworkingsob says:

    Would not Mueller’s efforts at this point look like obstruction of justice? The only way they would not be seen as obstructing is if he were working for… hmmm? Looking forward to the final rosters of white hats and black hats.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      It looks like that to us, obstruction on Mueller’s part, but he has quite a bit of power right now and no expiration date as far as I know.

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    • Blaze says:

      Rosenstein has a lot to answer for. He appointed Mueller and vouched for him. Just as guilty but at the same time recommends to Trump to fire Comey. Bizarre and typical Washington.

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    • G. Combs says:

      “Would not Mueller’s efforts at this point look like obstruction of justice?”

      Certainly looks that way.
      If the REASON for the accusation of Russian collusion, the Pee Pee Dossier, is known to be unsubstantiated opposition research.

      If KNOWN Trump haters in the DOJ and FBI were using Government facilities for SPYING on a Presidential Candidate.

      If no connection to Russia was found, except for Hillary campaign plants and set-ups…

      It certainly looks like an Obama and Hillary inspired WITCH HUNT!

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  16. rikster says:

    When discussing the dossier let us not forget about McCain and Schumer. McCain hand delivered said item and Schumer directly threatened an elected President. I know, there’s so much going on one needs a scorecard. 🙂

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  17. KBR says:

    I was reading this bill as I studied what my Congressman (NC Richard Hudson) has and has not voted for since he was first elected.

    It seems to show requirements of FISA laws in effect when all this illegal stuff was happening
    since it became LAW in 2015:

    H.R.2048 – 114th Congress (2015-2016): USA FREEDOM Act of 2015 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2048?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22USA+FREEDOM+Act%22%5D%7D

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  18. thedoc00 says:

    Can anybody confirm a news report that appeared this morning, stating the lawyer for Simpson or Simpson walked back the “death” claim and parts of the testimony?

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  19. D. Manny says:

    Here, let me try to put it all more succinctly….

    It’s one thing if you use the FISA court to spy on the opposing candidate during an election…..that’s pretty bad in and of itself….but it’s Watergate on steroids if you use the FISA court to try to legalize the illegal spying you were already doing on the opposing candidate during an election….

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  20. Singer says:

    Just asking, regarding FISA being retroactively applied…

    If someone robs a bank but gives the money back within 30-45 days, is no crime committed?

    If the weapons (whatever they may be) used to attempt a coup were acquired legally, does that make the attempted coup not seditious or treasonous but legal?

    I didn’t think so.

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  21. WT#$##$@!!! says:

    I see this as going nowhere – it’s the 24 hour SWAMP CARTOON to me

    Hannity, Sara Carter, Meadows and Jordan are going to “break news” and change the narrative?

    I don’t think so…NOTHING Carter “reports” will ever be covered in the swamp mainstream…you know – the people that create the narrative – In fact, if you’re paying attention they create TWO narratives INCLUDING the opposing one…and they have ZERO interest in “resolving” anything, seeing as ALL the media is raking in BILLIONS as a result of the GOLDMINE they’ve struck with Donald Trump. Sara Carter knows this and so does Hannity (who i LIKE a lot).

    It’s their brilliant and perfect strategy of DIVIDE AND CONTROL…

    This had been true since (and LONG before) ALL TIME CHAMPION globalist psychopath Vladimir Lenin revealed the core strategy that drives the captains of industry who seek absolute control of the planet and it’s every resource, and who employ the most sophisticated application of mind control and indoctrination in the behalf of crafting and engineering our reality to that end.

    “the best way to CONTROL the opposition is to LEAD it ourselves”

    i can’t stress this enough – please be aware that one effect of hypnotized type partisan IDEOLOGY is to allow yourself to be captured, unaware, by these narratives…and to DO THE WORK OF THE DIVIDERS FOR THEM…

    There ARE NO white or black hats – at least not the ones we seer playing those parts.

    Looking with my eyes open and a critical mind, i can’t see anything but BAD cartoon actors pumping these 2 narratives at us relentlessly – the SWAMP uniparty and it’s mouthpieces, the SWAMP media (all of it – including FOX and the various lesser platforms that have emerged like breitbart and other “opposition” and “non-opposition” types) and SWAMP hollywood – of course swamp hollywood utilizes trained actors, so they may be the most dangerous…who knows

    Sundance – not too long ago you were blasting Carter for her “opposition” type distraction…what changed your mind about her?

    • Koot Katmandu says:

      Yep, I really took notice when I first seen this. A few hours later nothing about it anywhere else but Hannity. Hannity is too biased to trust on anything.

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      • WT#$##$@!!! says:

        agree – i believe Hannity’s heart is in the right place – he’s def old friends with the President, so…Jordan and Meadows i would guess are just playing their swamp actor roles as the “opposition” – white hats for “conservatives”, black ones for “liberal” ideologues…i trust NO-ONE in the swamp and pretty much no-one in the media, so i guess that might include Carter

        ok, so i guess i really don’t trust ANYONE ;O

        like that old BB King song where he sings “nobody loves you but your mother – and she could jiving too!”

        will anything of consequence come from the swamp investigating the swamp investigating…?

        like the Magic Eight Ball says –
        “DON’T COUNT ON IT”

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    • D. Manny says:

      Her “Javanka” tirade was dumb. As a result, I view all she says with a grain of salt.

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      • WT#$##$@!!! says:

        wait – i missed that…Carter was spewing some “Jivanka” idiocy?

        that’s a DEAD giveaway to a Never Trumper/Trump hater

        people that don’t understand or hate on Donald Trump’s PREMIUM ON FAMILY, simply don’t “get” him, and IMO never will

        these VALUES that he features so passionately are WHAT makes America great.
        simple as that

        whatever their motivation, they willfully become part of the foul opposition to The President by aligning themselves PRECISELY with his worst enemies

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        • D. Manny says:

          I can understand attacking the policies, not the people. AND if you’re going to attack the policies, use the truth, not manipulation and lies.

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          • WT#$##$@!!! says:

            exactly! unfortunately that seems to be the order of the day…

            the LAZY conflation of personal attack and actual policy

            dopey identity politics, #metoo/timesup, cartoon character and insult comic mark levin masquerading as a constitutional scholar

            ALL are contributing mightily to the exponential dumbing down

            world gone crazy, i reckon ;O

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  22. Margaret Berger says:

    My take, comey is not all that bright. More of a loose cannon. Had to be told to change the wording had to be told to call it a matter. Reopened the investigation because the New York police had the lap top first and saw classified information on it. Lied about even reading the emails.

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  23. WT#$##$@!!! says:

    my take on Comey is that he’s a really bad, HAM actor – kinda from the Al Gore School of Bad Ham Acting and “Buy Here Pay Here” Used Car Franchise Training ;O

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  24. Kalena says:

    I sent the links to Sundance’s reports over the past few days to Steve Gruber, the Michigan morning talk show that is syndicated in our state. He is actually talking about this now. He has a far and wide audience in our state on several radio stations throughout the state. Today, I only heard the last hour and he closed the show with the questions Sundance was asking in a recent post and talks about “follow the money” regarding who is paying for the dossier, how it was used to get the FISA warrants and how that was fraudulent since the warrants were based on a made up story.

    The swamp can’t put the toothpaste back into the tube, so to speak. Sundance deserves to get as much credit for this story as the pentagon paper journalists did back in the day. Admiral Rogers deserves a Presidential medal of some sort.

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  25. itsy_bitsy says:

    On those grounds, the Mueller investigation should end today. A new investigation into the weaponizing of the federal government and it’s top security agencies should be put into action tomorrow, and those found guilty of using the government and it’s top security and political agencies to destroy an opposing political candidate should be exposed, tried, and sentenced to prison terms for their crimes!

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  26. WT#$##$@!!! says:

    I love HANNITY, but he’s starting to lose me with “THIS IS THE BIGGEST BREAKING NEWS OF OUR LIFETIMES” type of approach.

    somebody wrote here yesterday (i think it was Oldschool) that every day that passes with no results from any of this, makes what we’re witnessing just MORE OF THE SAME…what the globalist swamp has been doing since 1776 and before / certainly a broken recored in our lifetimes or since say 1900….
    and regarding my previous comment regarding the CARTOON being relentlessly pumped at us – observe this screenshot of FOX’s home page just now

    GOOD GRIEF! seriously?

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  27. G. Combs says:

    On the subject of Treason vs Sedition –Treason carrying the higher penalties…

    For treason you need a war and you need aid and comfort to THE ENEMY….

    Guess what folks that is EXACTLY what we have with Obummer and the Hilderbeast!!
    Congress Declared War on Sept. 14, 2001
    “…
    On Sept. 14, 2001, the U.S. Congress in effect declared war when it passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) as a joint resolution… But one cannot deny that this AUMF set in motion the ongoing war on terror that is being conducted by the U.S. government.

    The Obama administration has made an effort to change the terminology describing the war. For example, it doesn’t like the words “war on terror”, and it has used substitutes. This effort is not central to the conduct of the military operations enabled under this resolution. As long as the resolution remains in place, its existence is what is central.

    The Obama administration was critical of how the Bush administration was conducting military operations. After it took power, it changed the military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan….

    The existence of the war on terror is prior to the conduct of the war. The conduct is malleable and can take many forms. As long as the resolution exists, the war will be conducted somehow….”

    So there is the DECLARED War on Terror that allowed military action in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.

    AND here is the TREASON:
    The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook

    The Awan brothers with their Pakistani-based computers hooked into Congress delivering secret intel to the Pakistani supported Taliban. Luke Rosiak, Investigative Reporter for the Daily Caller has been documenting these SPIES that the Democrats embedded into our government. link

    Hillary’s gun running to terrorists

    Obama’s embedded Muslim’s using PC to cripple out data bases on US based terrorists… DHS Whistleblower Philip Haney: P.C. Killed Investigation That Might Have Stopped San Bernardino Attack

    The Coup against President Trump is explained by these multiple treasonous crimes that the Democrats are going to great lengths to keep hidden.

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  28. Johnny says:

    IMHO
    This country is basically setting on a razors edge of an outright coup being attempted and the outbreak of a second Civil War or you could call it a Revolution Against a Weaponized Government that is no longer accountable to WE THE PEOPLE.
    I pray to our Lord Jesus Christ I am wrong.

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    • WT#$##$@!!! says:

      johnny – we’re ALREADY in it

      there is NO coming back from the current state of division – initiated by the swamp globalists and their thug puppet media…and hollywood

      and unfortunately eagerly embraced by hypnotized partisan shmoes on BOTH sides

      this CAN NOT have a good outcome

      they would have us war, while they continue to pork us and rake in the profits

      it’s gotten to that…i see it as some sort of deadly end game being played by those that craft our reality

      but….there ARE NO WHITE HATS OR BLACK HATS – just BAD actors playing those parts

      oh well ;O

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      • Johnny says:

        That is what I see also. Not good for any of us.

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        • phoenixRising says:

          well, I guess we should all just slash our wrists… no point in living right? Gloom and doom everywhere.

          My wrists have survived worse than this… we WILL win but only if we stay positive and continue to inform each other and those who are uninformed.

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  29. MVW says:

    Truly, the Lois Lerner decision by Jeff Sessions was horrific. It sets the precedent to allow political operatives to break the law as long as they are in the protected class.

    I will never forget what Sessions did and neither will future political operatives. And don’t think that this applies to ‘conservative’ political operatives…

    I am half way in the mind set that this alone qualifies firing of Jeff Sessions, but perhaps a 1 in 1000000 chance there is a valid reason for giving that criminal a pass.

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  30. WT#$##$@!!! says:

    Jeff Sessions is a weaponized swamp implant in the WH – the SWAMP is ferociously clever and runs unbelievably deep…they’ve been at this LONG before Donald Trump came around.

    Sessions recusing himself 5 minutes in is the KEY to their transparent strategy – immediately built in was the IM-possibility of Donald Trump removing him under a CLAMOR of threats from the usual suspects repub and dem that any such action would result in immediate impeachment proceedings – and those aren’t idle threats. From day 1 this strategy has massively damaged Trump and MAGA…

    Mostly, i’m addressing those who like to defend sessions by pointing out that he “hasn’t been fired”

    Under relentless assault, The President is strategically doing what he must to implement his agenda and his MISSION – unfortunately, his enemies have created permanent job security for a traitorous AG…

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    • G. Combs says:

      SIGHHhhhhh
      First point AG Sessions was BARELY confirmed
      “…In January, his confirmation hearing to become attorney general turned bitter when, for the first time, a sitting senator, Cory Booker, D-N.J., testified against a colleague up for a Cabinet position. Booker said he did so because of Sessions’s record on civil rights.
      Sessions ultimately won confirmation on a 52-to-47 vote…

      Supporters and critics say the attorney general has been among the most effective of the Cabinet secretaries – implementing Trump’s conservative policy agenda even as the president publicly and privately toys with firing him over his decision to recuse himself from the Russia case.

      While critics lambaste what they consider misguided changes that take the department back in time, supporters say Sessions has restored a by-the-book interpretation of federal law and taken an aggressive stance toward enforcing it[…]” http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/jeff_sessions_dramatically_res.html

      Second — RETURN TO ETHICS. Sessions promised at his confirmation hearing to consult with the DOJ experts on a possible recusal. If he had not recused he could be impeached by Congress.

      I recommend you READ — ETHICS/RECUSAL: https://www.justice.gov/jmd/government-ethics-outline

      Sessions recused himself from the CAMPAIGN issues and nothing else.
      Read US attorney general Jeff Sessions’ statement recusing himself from investigations into the 2016 presidential campaigns

      Please do your research into the issue before spouting off.

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      • WT#$##$@!!! says:

        “Supporters and critics say the attorney general has been among the most effective of the Cabinet secretaries”

        sighhhh…let me correct that for you – ALL critics and even some supporters say the attorney general has been among the LEAST effective of the Cabinet secretaries – not to mention the only one who’s done REAL damage to the President and MAGA, by weaponizing the highest law enforcement position in the land against the President and his mission. Some say his behavior is treasonous and MOST of his critics have called for Trump to fire sessions.

        just because you adopt the liberal tactic of MAKING THINGS UP to support your position, doesn’t make it any more true.
        See how that works?

        Trump himself has MANY times indicated his EXTREME displeasure with the AG and taken the EXTREME measure of CALLING HIM OUT PUBLICLY on numerous occasions. Two Weeks ago Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows called for his resignation on the basis of his CONTINUING obstruction (as USAG) of the investigations they’re conducting on behalf of the President and the American people.

        And now that i’ve corrected you regarding his critics, let me address his unfortunate and FOUL recusal when cryin’ chuck and sessions’ swamp pals TOLD HIM TOO….

        what you willfully ignore here, is that he did so WITHOUT INFORMING HIS BOSS – The President. Trump has spoken PUBLICLY MANY TIMES as to how he was rightfully furious with this…
        This was INDEFENSIBLE IMO.

        The ENTIRE ensuing year of relentless assaults on the President and MAGA has flowed from and been constantly steel-reinforced by that single pathetic action by sessions.

        So my OPINION is certainly valid and SHARED by many who love Donald Trump…as WE BOTH do.

        “Please do your research into the issue before spouting off.”

        LOL please refrain from claiming any “research” superiority, k? we have diametrically opposed opinions…i can respect yours without attempting to manipulate a discussion we might have with silly statements like that ;O

        in fact the whole TONE of your comment was rude – i don’t argue with with people in chat rooms or life by starting out on an uncivil foot – but i do welcome discussion of opinions, especially conflicting ones with people i know i have much in common with ;o;o

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  31. John K Evans says:

    Sundance’s analysis is now running on Infowars. It is largely verbatim, and unless I missed it, is appearing without attribution. Should we be pleased that the analysis is being disseminated, or alarmed that it is being copied by so dubious an outlet?

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  32. wtd says:

    In the (preset to quote) linked Hannity video, Sara Carter asks how systemic was this intel abuse…
    I would suggest, under the prior administration, it was as systemic as designed by Obama –
    Just recall Schumer’s 6 ways to Sunday threat

    and
    Maxine Water’s revelation about the powerful OFA databank Obama created for use in coming elections.

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  33. 1hear2learn says:

    I’m of the mindset that this is the biggest “story” out there, but why is Hannity basically the only one treating it as such?

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  34. Aubergine says:

    Having read everything here, and digesting it, I think that what scared the sh*t out of Nunes when he saw it was bigger than the Trump spying. He said “it didn’t have anything to do with Russia.” Everything I have heard/read about the Trump spying leads back to Russia somehow. So what did Nunes see?

    I suspect that Nunes was made aware of ALL of the illegal spying, using 702 queries. That would include Justice Roberts, possibly Mitt Romney, and who knows how many other Congressmen, Senators, and judges whose votes had been compromised by blackmail. That would be enough to scare the shi*t out of anybody.

    The Obama administration, straight out of the Chicago-politics playbook, took over our government for eight years using spying and blackmail.

    P.S. While I understand the complications and permutations of the “warrant not-warrant” issue, I will continue to use the terminology when trying to explain this to the uninitiated. Simple language is best, especially for the more “low-information” voters among us. I am sure Jim Jordan knows all about this, and he is still using the term, too. For those of us who are political junkies, and who have been reading this for a year, the differences are clear and understandable, but I fear it is too deep in the weeds for the average Joe. IMHO.

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  35. John K Evans says:

    Sundance, I read the Huffington Post every day to see how the Left is playing this story. Let me encourage you to read the article by Baumann and Reilly that is now running. It leaves me with the sense that, no matter how carefully the bad news is parsed by the white hats, the Left will never see cleaning up the DOJ/FBI as anything but abuse of power in service of a cover-up.

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  36. Has anyone else noticed how quiet Hillary is suddenly? She went from making a whole lot of noise to crickets in the last week or so.

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  37. bill says:

    I hope that Congress never re-authorizes S702 for FISA! What we are seeing now is a perfect example of it’s misuse. Far to dangerous to continue allowing it’s use!

    Speaker Ryan, is wrong in pushing the re-authorizes of S702 for FISA. for Surveillance of American Citizens because it’s a unconstitutional act. A vilolation of the forth amendment, PERIOD!

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  38. porkyspen says:

    Did Rush just credit Andrew McCarthy for “great work on the Russia Investigation, both in factual and time-line form”????

    WTH?????

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  39. jmclever says:

    Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows pushing to declassify everything….woo doggies! Then Sundance and his merry band of citizen journalists can have at it!

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  40. cali says:

    Sundance your investigative articles are widely used to write articles across media. They give you credit but I am astounded at these lazy people. Then again I’m glad they disseminate your analysis, compilations and facts correctly. That’s a good thing.
    Then there is the still outstanding angle that involves Brennan and Obama himself. Remember I recently said in a comment that Obama via his OFA also paid $972,000.00 for this dossier. Brennan personally hand delivered that dossier cloaked in a folder labeled ‘Top Secret – For Your Eyes Only” to the white house.
    This morning I learned that Obama et al directly canoodled with two Putin spies during all of that. Then also remember how WikiLeaks dropped the Vault 8 info on the CIA. In it we learned that the CIA had and used the tools to pose as the highly efficient ‘Kaspersky Lab’ which they did. WikiLeaks dropped that info before the deep state and the mockingbird media reported the lie that the Kaspersky Lab software company were spies of the Putin/Russian government. That ended in the Kaspersky Lab being banned from being used in the US. The media led the lynch campaign against that company.
    What the CIA did was planting Russian evidence anywhere they pleased posing as the Kaspersky Lab software company.
    Cue in this: I believe there is one more component to that intelligence op against the Trump campaign and then president Obama. What exactly were their dark deeds and to what extent.
    I hope that this nugget can be fit into that overall big puzzle of this espionage and treason in the exact spot where it belonged.

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  41. Another Scott says:

    To us following CTH this is a blockbuster because it confirms the notion that the Steele Dossier, bought by Clinton the candidate, was a basis for the Obama Admin to essentially spy (FISA queries) on Trump the candidate. This is a scandal 1000X worse than Watergate. It doesn’t seem like there is much reaction at all elsewhere today. Is this going to gain traction as an issue? Is it just too complicated for busy people to understand?

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    • G. Combs says:

      You outline it to your friends in simple form and then drop the Conservativetreehouse link on them so they can see the research for themselves.

      THIS IS IMPORTANT!!! We want conservatives and independents angry enough to vote out the Demonrats and Rinos in the primaries.

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  42. “Before passing the bill, the House rejected an amendment sponsored by Michigan Republican Justin Amash and California Democrat Zoe Lofgren that would have required the FBI to obtain court warrants before querying the Section 702 program’s database of the emails, internet searches and other communications of people in the U.S. that are incidentally collected as part of surveillance targeting suspected terrorists overseas.

    Trump’s own cybersecurity chief vouched for the law Thursday at an FBI cybersecurity conference in New York.

    “There’s been no cases of 702 used improperly for political purposes,” White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Rob Joyce said.”

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us-government-surveillance-the-latest/2018/01/11/id/836555/

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  43. Lurker says:

    Washington Post is confirming that FISA warrants were used to monitor Paul Manafort and Carter Page. Very condescending snarky article, I don’t recommend reading the entire thing. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/11/trump-just-torpedoed-his-own-administrations-position-on-fisa/?utm_term=.dce4d63a6aa4

    [Trump] remembered that it was the program used to conduct surveillance of Trump campaign aides Carter Page and Paul Manafort. Those FISA warrants are at the heart of a deep-state conspiracy theory alleging that the Steele dossier was used as a pretext to spy on his campaign and undermine him.

    Washington Post has reported on those warrants in the past, and here they are confirming them again. But Clapper denied that there were any FISA warrants pertaining to Trump or anyone on his campaign. Who’s lying?

    By the way, I know the conventional wisdom is to let Trump be Trump, but I think he should be more judicious when he tweets. When there’s a big story milling about that is helpful to him (e.g., some proof that the dossier was used to obtain FISA warrants), then he might want to avoid generating any tweets that will cause the fake news outlets a reason to ignore real news and focus on his tweets instead, which is what they’ve been doing all day because he tweeted about the FISA 702 reauthorization. He knows how to control the media, he should do it more carefully and artfully IMO. Don’t give them something to talk about if you want them to be focused on important matters.

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  44. David R. Graham says:

    Right near the end, Rep Meadows mentions “other agencies” will be exposed as part of this mess, but then Sean steps on him without hearing what Meadows said and realizing its import. Meadows considered it important enough to mention. That would be, firstly, CIA and, perhaps among others, who? DHS, probably? State Department, probably. Secret Service, perhaps? ATF, maybe? The point is, “other agencies,” a point I have been urging for some weeks now, especially in re CIA, where I think this whole mess started, with Brennan and his boss, The Magic Negro.

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  45. John hennessy says:

    In step 2 “ he quarantines the returned information and then applied a to the FISA court to use it”. Does heReview the data then decide to apply for use? Or does the quarrantine process prevent viewing of the data prior to application approval? What prevents an about query info from being handwritten copiied to paper and sneakernetted out of the computer system?

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  46. bill says:

    T – 4 and counting! I hope!

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  47. tunis says:

    After all this Russiagate the Republican House reauthorizes FISA. No review. No waiting until the info is out on the abuses.

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  48. bill says:

    Based on what I have seen to date, Brennan came to Obama with this crack pot idea, that Page had something to do with Russia and Obama bought-in. But, it could have been Obama going to Brennan, and saying find me something. And, Page was the lucky winner.

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  49. Jane in Florida says:

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/251897/obama-steele-dossier-russiagate
    Did President Obama Read the ‘Steele Dossier’ in the White House Last August?

    Snip

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  50. fanbeav says:

    Just joined this sight! So much good info here. SD about ready to post another bombshell. Keep refreshing your screen on the home page!

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