December 23rd – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #338

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772 Responses to December 23rd – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #338

  1. 4sure says:

    A different take on Donald Trump: (a non-political agenda)

    Mychal S. Massie is an ordained minister who spent 13 years in full-time Christian Ministry. Today he serves as founder and Chairman of the Racial Policy Center (RPC), a think tank he officially founded in September 2015.

    Trump Is Not A Liberal or Conservative, He’s a “Pragmatist.” (Definition: A pragmatist is someone who is practical and focused on reaching a goal. A pragmatist usually has a straightforward, matter-of-fact approach and doesn’t let emotion distract him or her.)

    “We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation varied from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics.

    At one point, reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative, to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

    I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

    Viewing problems from a Liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

    Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending and globalism to the detriment of American interests and wellbeing, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff, appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

    Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a Liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

    The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a Liberal or Conservative problem, it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect.

    Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

    Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it.

    Here again, successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work, and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work, you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

    As a pragmatist, Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through at Carl’s Hamburgers.

    I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

    You may not like Donald Trump, but I suspect that the reason some people do not like him is because:
    (1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of
    (2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of
    those who owe them vis-a-vis donations;
    (3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and
    (4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make
    America great again.

    Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush, John Kasich and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it, but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts is that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

    We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

    I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common among those who have never accomplished anything in their lives (or politicians who never really solved a problem, because it’s better to still have an “issue(s) to be solved,” so re-elect me to solve it, (which never happens) and those who have always played it safe (again, all politicians) not willing to risk failure, to try and achieve success).

    Donald Trump had his total financial empire at risk in running for president; that says it all. Success for the USA!

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      That is an excellent essay! Thank you for sharing, 4sure!

      Liked by 5 people

    • 100% YOOPER says:


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    • leebelieu says:

      Thank you for this. A pragmatist. Good description. I liked Common Sense Conservative. His proposals and solutions are common sense, enforce existing law, only bring in vetted assimilating migrants, bomb ISIS, squeeze China to influence NK, etc. Conservative not only in the US political sense but also to conserve our traditional values, culture, and unique American Exceptionalism. His willingness to wage a political and cultural battle is amazing to watch. I’m young but I’ve never seen pushback like President Trump demonstrates against the entrenched MSM and DCorruptocracy. Great first year look forward to many more! Merry Christmas! MAGA!

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    • eagledriver50 says:

      He is the type of leader that you would follow and go “B@LLS TO THE WALLS, NAILEN’ TO THE WALLS”…and YES I would. He gives no quarter because of that trait and THAT is what makes him EXTREMELY DANGEROUS to the swamp critters!!! OOOOH YAHHHH!!!

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    • shannynae says:

      Spot on..thanks for posting and Merry Christmas! 🌲

      Liked by 2 people

    • AmericaFirst says:

      He expressed my view of President Trump well.

      The ONLY thing I didn’t like about this article was that the writer was the founder of a think tank called “The Racial Policy Center.” Really? And he sounds so rational otherwise.

      Liked by 1 person

    • whoseyore says:

      Pragmatist….thanks so much for this. It all makes sense and describes our President to a T. First president I ever remember who kept his promises.

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  2. heidi says:

    here’s a great compilation of the slobbering media going full retard in 2017: (My favorite: Mika saying,” It’s OUR Job to Tell You What to Think.” During a February broadcast of “Morning Joe,” co-host Mika Brzezinski chastised Trump for telling Americans to be skeptical of the press, worrying Americans may trust him over her media colleagues. “He could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job.”

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  3. roxiellTX says:

    Notice the book in the stack of books at .13

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  4. tazz2293 says:

    Saw some posts about the $1000-$2000 a year in tax savings for We the People.

    My wife is a Trump Supporter.

    She wants to purchase a newer vehicle because she is so happy and is gonna save some money next year and the years beyond.

    My wife is a saver and is very smart with money so I told her if she is happy and wants a new car, her old car is no slouch, go for it.

    Who am I to argue with her?

    It’s a trap if I do. Right Sylvia?

    So I’m a just gonna shut my mouth and say; Yes Dear. Whatever makes you happy dear. I love that woman. And did I mention she loves President Trump. yep, she’s a keeper. 😉

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    • Sylvia Avery says:

      Happy wife, happy life! She’s gonna look so good crusin’ down the highway in her new car!

      Liked by 10 people

      • tazz2293 says:

        It is amazing how President Trump is changing our mindset from we’re doomed to We’re gonna be okay. A year ago we, me and my wife, and I am sure some of us Patriots, were concerned about how the economy and life in America was gonna survive the Obama years, the last 28 years of globalist infiltration.

        This is why we voted for President Trump and why we have to keep the pressure on the swamp rats in the GOP.

        With President Trump leading the way all things are possible. Not only in America but around the globe.

        Liked by 5 people

        • lastinillinois says:

          Well said tazz.

          The wife and I are feeling the same these days.

          Liked by 3 people

        • woohoowee says:

          Heck, before Trump45 stood up me and hubby were trying to figure out which country to try to emigrate to! It wasn’t going to take long for obolacare to bankrupt the majority of the middle class, as was intended, and our children and grands would be serfs long before our time to meet our Maker. But now it’s a very Merry Christmas and MAGA 🙂

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    • Tonawanda says:

      11th commandment: the wife is always right.

      Liked by 7 people

    • wondering999 says:

      Yeah and if she took good care of her “old” car somebody is going to be very happy with it. Trade on up! And those of us who go for the used cars will make good use of the old one

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  5. citizen817 says:

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    • maggiemoowho says:


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    • Serena says:

      UGH! I simply can not stomach this man! Gross!!!!

      Liked by 2 people

    • wondering999 says:

      I got an email that it’s Cruz’ birthday today.
      I don’t hate Cruz. Nor would i have supported a lot of his stuff. That “Dominionist” angle is goofy, and the Canadian parents don’t fill the requirements.
      But, I’m over the moon that Trump is my president. I actually trust him to make the right decisions. If Trump ever screws up, his record will still be amazing


  6. Sylvia Avery says:

    “Friday on FNC’s “America’s Newsroom,” Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) said a congressional committee had evidence FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe indicated Hillary Clinton was going to get an “HQ special” regarding the investigation of her unauthorized email server and ties to the Clinton Foundation during her tenure as secretary of state….”

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  7. dizzymissl says:

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    • tazz2293 says:

      Good news if true. Right now I choose to believe this.

      What I won’t believe is the fake news that is trying to gaslight us. We must discern the real news from the fake news then use those nuggets of real news to push MAGA onward. I believe this is why so many trust Sundance, he always gives us the truth along with sage advice. Plus Sundance, and the Treepers are light years ahead of anyone in the LSM.

      Even General Beauregard Sessions is joining in to crush the enemies of America. As the AG gains momentum he should be able to land some really big fish. I’m happy that AG Sessions is starting to get some recognition for the good things he is doing. I’m still on the fence but if Sessions keeps doing what he is doing he just might win man of the year next year, or the year after.

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    • decisiontime16 says:

      Poor Nancy is a high priestess of the deranged. She thinks cutting taxes is on par with slavery.

      In a last-ditch effort to criticize the GOP’s tax reform bill, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said the Republican measure was the worst bill to ever be passed in the United States Congress.

      “I have said that this was stiff competition by some of the other things they have put forth, is the worst bill in the history of the United States Congress,” Pelosi said Tuesday during a House floor debate on the tax measure, according the The Hill.

      Pelosi’s argument, in her own words, is that passing the largest tax cut in nearly 30 years is worse than the government supporting slavery more than 100 years ago.

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      • Tonawanda says:

        That’s just because slavery was a Democrat policy position.

        Liked by 8 people

      • Bert Darrell says:

        Isn’t there anybody who can tell Nancy Pelosi that it’s time to retire and shut up?
        Speaking nonsense all the time is a sign of a number of really bad mental disorders. Oh, if there is someone who could, would s/he please tell it to Maxine Waters as well? The left side of the aisle is becoming a zoo.

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      • AmericaFirst says:

        She’s old, but apparently not old enough to remember 1913 and the passage of the Unconstitutional Income Tax. Come to think of it, she must be TOO old to remember 2009, and the passage of the UnaffordableUnHealthUnCare Act, even though she was instrumental in its Christmas Eve middle of the night scam.

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  8. Marygrace Powers says:

    Trump Goes SCORCHED EARTH on Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe For ‘Racing the Clock to Retire With Full Benefits’

    December 23, 2017 by Cristina Laila

    Deep State FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is set to retire early next year after a barrage of attacks for his corruption.

    McCabe’s retirement announcement comes on the heels of a major shake up at the FBI; Wray just removed Comey “confidant” and suspected leaker James Baker from his top post as general counsel.

    Donald J. Trump

    How can FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, the man in charge, along with leakin’ James Comey, of the Phony Hillary Clinton investigation (including her 33,000 illegally deleted emails) be given $700,000 for wife’s campaign by Clinton Puppets during investigation?
    1:27 PM – Dec 23, 2017
    6,590 6,590 Replies 6,807 6,807 Retweets 19,847 19,847 likes

    Then POTUS blasted McCabe for racing the clock to retire with full benefits!

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  9. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    Say MAGA Merry Christmas to the coming #MAGARedWave

    Liked by 9 people

  10. patrickhenrycensored says:

    Trump is tweeting about the latest developments ie the FBI

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  11. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    Retweeted by PDJT

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  12. oldschool64 says:

    The New York Times is reporting that Trump has stated that Nigerian immigrants will never want to go back to there “huts” once they come to America….

    I guess the NYT can’t figure out why they WOULDN’T want to go back.

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  13. I’ve signed up for reports, etc from the OIG pertaining to CIA. I received my first report from them today: it is an audit of the FBI. Just in case any one is interested…nothing scandalous in this one, I don’t think, but I ‘m not a CPA.

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  14. Ghostrider says:

    To Democrats everywhere:
    Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all.

    I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2018, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Notwithstanding, this is not to imply that America is greater than other countries nor the only “America” in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual orientation or identity of the wishes.

    To My Republican Friends:
    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! MAGA!

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  15. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    Rand Paul is on the Twitter Roll today – this one about waste fraud and abuse

    Liked by 13 people

  16. colddeadhandsyoudirtyape says:

    So, is the Senate going to be out of session? Bring on Recess Appointments!

    Liked by 2 people

  17. trapper says:

    Now here’s an interesting piece. It’s a summary of some recent articles and editorials by some never-Trumpers. At least the ones with some intellectual honesty are admitting he has been remarkably successful at delivering on the conservative agendas they purported to believe in. OK. Better late than never I suppose. But it causes me to wonder: perhaps instead of US reading THEIR comments, perhaps they should all just stop writing for a while and come HERE and read Sundance’s pieces and OUR comments, and learn from those who were right all along.

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    • joeknuckles says:

      Yes, but now they are going to turn around and say he’s dragging the party down when it’s really the other way around. They want him gone. They are still as corrupt as ever.


    • trapper says:

      And that got me wondering along another line. Perhaps some of the never-Trumpers were not, are not, closet globalists, but were just scared. You see it in sports teams. You see it in the players’ eyes when they become scared of losing. That’s when the momentum shifts and they no longer play to win, but play to not lose.

      You also see it in businesses. Sometimes a business develops a fear of putting out a new product that might be TOO advanced for the marketplace. That’s when they stop trying to be the best, but focus on not losing marketshare.

      When you don’t play to win, but just play to not lose, the result is always the same. You lose. Somewhere along the line some Republicans, and some conservatives, lost their will to fight for what they believed in. They would rather adopt elements of liberal socialist globalist beliefs in order to win an election, than risk losing fighting for what they believed in. Negotiating surrenders they could live with became the norm. It takes a bold and fearless leader to bring such folks out from under the bed. That is what Pres Trump has proven to be.

      Just a thought.

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  18. kinthenorthwest says:

    God Bless President Trump….
    When Trump does these types of things with the crowd I beam from ear to ear knowing that I voted for such a great man. Happy Happy tears too.
    Trying to honestly remember, but I don’t think Obama related to crowds like this, or even Michelle. Bet the Secret Service gets a little mad, but bet Trump treats them much better than the Clintons or Obamas did.

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  19. MaineCoon says:

    Stealth Jeff’s thread is a good read on Sessions reopening some investigations.

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  20. MaineCoon says:

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    • soozword says:

      Unfortunately, decades of mass immigration have dramatically changed our demographics since 1984. Most of that growth was through legal immigration which hasn’t slowed yet in any appreciable way. We now have millions of very low-skill “refugees” and immigrants who are welfare-dependent with very limited employment prospects in a 21st century high tech economy. Plus add in a large segment of the low education native-born blacks who have been welfare-dependent for generations. Bet they still will vote Dem come hell or high water in 2020, unlike the black middle class. Not saying it isn’t possible to win more R seats, but wouldn’t count on such a dramatic result as in 1984. That America is gone.


  21. shannynae says:

    Dear Treepers, Sundance and Ad Rem,
    You are my family and my dear friends and this site has been a God-send to me. Sundance, you have maneuvered us through all the minefields that the gaslighting liars would lay down for us. The analysis here has never been wrong and I feel like I have received an excellent education on econimics, political science, corruption….the list is long.

    Fellow Treepers, you are the most brilliant and thoughtful people and every day I learn something from you. I want to take this opportunity to thank you all and I have asked God for blessings for you and your families.

    I hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas and I am so excited about what next year will bring. All of this has been possible because of one man…President Donald John Trump. May God continue to smile on him and may God preserve and bless the greatest nation in the history of the world.

    Merry Christmas and thank God for the gift of His precious son, the Light of the World.

    Liked by 23 people

  22. duchess01 says:

    ‘Austria will set agenda for Europe’ Coalition looks to ‘take back control’ from Brussels

    THE new Austrian Government will “set the agenda for the future of Europe” amid concerns in Brussels over the country’s political direction.

    PUBLISHED: 09:56, Sat, Dec 23, 2017 | UPDATED: 18:24, Sat, Dec 23, 2017

    Liked by 3 people

  23. duchess01 says:

    Sweden’s Finance Minister: We received too many immigrants

    Integration in Sweden has worked so badly that immigrants should apply to other countries. That’s what Minister of Finance Magdalena Andersson (S) said in an interview with DN. The limit is reached for how many asylum seekers Sweden can take.

    By – Brünnhilde

    Liked by 4 people

    • Sylvia Avery says:

      It’s too late baby,
      Now it’s too late
      Though we really did try to make it.

      Something inside has died
      and I can’t hide and I just can’t fake it
      Oh no no

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    • soozword says:

      At least they are starting to talk about it, but I bet they are still a long way from actually doing anything about it. To have their culture survive, they have to actually massively deport NOW, not just take fewer in. Like Sylvia chirps “It’s too late, baby”.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Sylvia Avery says:

        I take no pleasure in that thought, either. I’d like to think Europe can save themselves. But first they have to understand they are under severe threat, and then they have to believe they deserve to survive. For reasons I can’t grasp Europe has been suicidal.

        If they all woke up RIGHT NOW and put together a plan to save themselves and were willing to move on it right away, they’d still be hard pressed to win.

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  24. Mia C says:

    I love Trump. I didn’t know we’d won 5 races. Tweet this out to everyone.

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    Remember, the Republicans are 5-0 in Congressional races this year. In Senate, I said Roy M would lose in Alabama and supported Big Luther Strange – and Roy lost. Virginia candidate was not a “Trumper,” and he lost. Good Republican candidates will win BIG!

    Liked by 4 people

    • mariner says:

      I’m not so certain Roy M. lost.

      He hasn’t conceded the election, and there is an investigation into election fraud.

      The fat lady ain’t sung yet.


  25. AmericaFirst says:

    I put this on another thread, but I believe it is important:

    I see a concerted effort to posit the narrative of Republicans “head-hunting.” Nothing could be further from the truth: Republicans want justice.

    Running for office, retiring from the federal government, being wealthy or famous, none of those should give people impunity from consequences for illegal actions.

    I keep posting about how opposed I am to Amnesty for the invaders; why should we offer amnesty to American citizens who break the law? We voted for President Trump for a return to a blindfolded Lady Justice, and without that, the real America can’t return.

    On the flip side, I am not unaware of the DC district which just acquitted the first people charged from the Resist/Womens’ March in January.

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  26. phoenixRising says:

    Anyone know where George Soros is? Haven’t heard from him lately. QANON has a word on that?


  27. JM Covfefe says:

    Language warning. But, almost as much fun as watching home movies of a MOAB hitting a da’esh camp.

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  28. JM Covfefe says:

    DEVELOPING: Active Shooter Reported At Miami Mall As Terrified Shoppers Run For Their Lives (VIDEO)


  29. JM Covfefe says:

    I am getting confuse very about this one. Did we already know about this, or is this new?

    “Now, with President Trump locked at war with the Deep State, Montgomery is speaking out in public.

    “I provided to the FBI seventeen businesses of Donald Trump, including the Trump Tower, the Trump leasing programs, all of these different programs, and including Trump himself and the various family members that had been wiretapped under these programs,” Montgomery said in the interview. “There has been a wiretap on Trump for years.”

    Baker possesses 47 hard disks containing data on a massive surveillance operation overseen by John Brennan and James Clapper which allegedly spied on Trump Tower and now-President Donald Trump, according to a whistleblower.

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  30. kinthenorthwest says:

    This article brings up another person maybe killed by BLM & FBI “Although the feds later claimed Vicki Weaver’s killing was an accident, the New York Times reported in 1993 that an internal FBI report justified the killing by saying she put herself in danger”

    Was LaVoy Finicum on the KILL LIST?

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  31. Duke Taber says:

    Merry Christmas Everyone!

    Liked by 5 people

  32. Thank you! I appreciate this resource.
    Merry Christmas!

    Liked by 1 person

  33. JAS says:

    I just had a rude awakening. I don’t tweet and I don’t facebook. I can read tweets though, not facebook.

    Let me tell you, I just had a close acquaintance log me into facebook with their account. What I saw there was a real awakening!

    Facebook is where the Dimms are going full frontal vile. I cannot believe what I saw there in the few minutes I was logged in and reading that stuff. It is downright full blown insanity. These people have lost their minds and there is no bringing them back. No hope, they are full med mental.

    My God! There is a huge problem in this country, They feed on each others lies and insanity logarithmically. Out of control FUBAR.

    This will not end well. After reading some of that stuff I can guarantee that now.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Michelle says:

      I know what you mean. It was already pretty bad way before Trump even started running, but once he did it got worse, and once he won, forget it. I haven’t been on FB for 2 years because of it.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Summer says:

      Well, yes. It will not end well for them if they leave their facebooks and safe places and start rioting in a conservative neighborhood. Which is not a bad outcome in my book.

      Locked and loaded.


  34. MaineCoon says:

    Merry Christmas from the Veterans Black Rifle Coffee Company.

    Liked by 2 people

  35. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  36. kinthenorthwest says:

    Seems the Bundy mess is helping to expose the corruption in Obama’s FBI & BLM…Appears it was to be able to sell American land to other countries.

    Latest Bombshell: BLM Not Only Knew About The Bundy’s Water Rights But Sought To Eliminate Them!

    Liked by 6 people

  37. patrickhenrycensored says:

    How A Pro-Trump Group Will Troll ‘Morning Joe’ For A Whole Week — First Round Planned For Christmas Day

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